Spoilers Likely Tonight Edition
If you missed it:
Bonus: Miki's new company
Just make a thread when something actually happens.
You bet they will.
75 looks like it's full of, so it can't be that difficult to translate, r-right?
>decide to watch the anime since I don't know shit about this and I'm lazy
>this constant going from very good (when shit is actually happening) to shit (when it's slice of life) and then back
The two episodes where Accelerator is the protagonist were the best, he might be an edgelord but at least he's more interesting than your average 2x4 and his power has stupid amounts of flexibility.
Okay at that point her nipples should be poking out.
Yes it's a well known fact Accelerator and Hamazura are usually more interesting than Touma. I'm hoping this book will make Touma a bit more interesting. So far it looks like its leaning that direction
Going to watch it after Index, question is should I watch it before or after Index II?
Especially considering Accelerator's power can be used in so many different and creative ways it sure as shit makes for more interesting stuff than Touma's.
Haven't gotten to Hamazura yet.
>question is should I watch it before or after Index II?
Doesn't matter really. The only good part is Railgun S episode 2-16, wich is the Sisters arc again but better. You probably won't like the other parts.
>Going to watch it after Index, question is should I watch it before or after Index II?
Release order is Index I -> Railgun I -> Index II -> Railgun S. Railgun 1 is really SoL heavy, so give it a go but it might not be your cup of tea.
I'm starting to get pissed off at Nuitposters. Not because I hate Mikoto, don't want her relevant or don't believe something will happen with that form. I do actually believe Kamachi will revisit it and do want her relevant. I just don't believe it'll be anything more than "Mikoto and the Network need to be saved" which will lead to nothing but more blushu Mikoto and useless shipping pandering that will go nowhere or go somewhere due to pure bullshit
There is one Nuitposter and he posts like once a thread.
Assuming what we saw was something close to Accel's black wings, it follows that she should have a form beyond that that she could control. This would also go towards resolving her current "too weak to help Touma" problem.
>something close to Accel's black wings
Far from it. She needed external power supplied to her to reach that stage. She was basically being used as a container for the "angel" of the the Misaka Network. Accelerator's wings need no outside help.
Serious as in full form Nuit isn't likely. It's just having hope that Kamachi will remember Nuit at all.
Anyways, how would that be a bad thing? That would fit perfectly with her character and motivation. I doubt it would just happen right away like that. Mikoto most likely will go through a small arc in which Touma and co. will get involved in before she can control it to an extend. If not that, then perhaps in the forms of wings in an awakened state.
If she does power up, it will promise you it will have absolutely nothing to do with her feelings for Touma or her desire to help him. She will power up because Aleister wants her powered up. Bit because "muh love did it <333333333333333" like most everyone seems to want
I don't see why both isn't possible. Mikoto's resolve will be the most obvious way to go about it. And her resolve is tied with her feelings for Touma. Her feelings here doesn't necessarily have to be romantic, you know.
That might be true for you, but I have personally seen plenty of people suggest that it will be her feelings/desires centered around Touma that makes it happen. There are other people in this thread suggesting it
>Accelerator's wings need no outside help.
Because Accel is more capable of reaching level 6, Mikoto needs to be forced into it and won't survive the process. My point was more that, if we make the assumption that all Level 5s have an equivalent to Accel's wing forms*, then what we've seen so far of Nuit or whatever you want to call it lines up pretty nicely with Black Wings, and it wouldn't be to much of a leap to assume that there is also a form that will resemble White Wings (more power, more stability). Whether she will both reach that point and survive the process is definitely up for debate though.
*This may be a bit of a leap, since we've not seen Kakine do it and he should be more able to do it than Mikoto.
If it is a media production division of Kadokawa that he's started as the machine translation seems to suggest, then we could get more Kamachi anime out of it. It also means that he's not editing Index anymore, which could be either good or bad. We'll just have to wait and see.
>Making threads when there's been enough and nothing new since
>Implying spoilers will be actually remotely true
Good Miki left so the shitty meme will die and people will see kamachi for the real fraud he is.
>lines up pretty nicely with Black Wings
No, it doesn't. What it actually does line up with, is AIM Burst and Fuse Kazakiri. The creation of Accelerator's wings is partly attributed to unknown laws (read: magic) from Index's song. It caused a change within Accelerator himself that allowed him to manifest the black wings. More specifically, the song that was supposed to "fix" LO's brain also affected and "fixed" something within Accelerator's brain. See Aleister's comment:
>>The numerical settings for the AIM diffusion fields were just finished being inputted into the vector control device
And all the times Accelerator was focused on the song:
>>However, this girl’s song held emotions. Accelerator could sense the girl’s feelings for Last Order that surpassed the boundary of language.
>>The song made him feel like he was bathing in a warm light. This was likely the voice of someone from the world Last Order belonged in. Accelerator merely listened to the song. He listened with almost no calculation ability. He listened to that voice that he could never produce.
On the other hand, Mikoto's "power" was forced into her in much the same way the clones forced Kazakiri to materialized and transform into Fuse Kazakiri. And, much like Kazakiri experienced in vol 13, she had very little control over herself and her powers in that state (Kazakiri had more control).
Kakine's epiphany happened after he saw Accelerator's black wings for the first time.
I hope fake spoilers are close to being real as in
>Salome has time stop
>Kamisato is involved
>is after Accelerator
>Yuiitsu out of nowhere
I don't like some of the details though. I don't think the spoilers are real but they could definitely end up being close
It just got finished.
Anyone mind translating this one part above the box before I upload to Batoto? the translator didn't do it so I'm hoping someone else might
>The song made him feel like he was bathing in a warm light. This was likely the voice of someone from the world Last Order belonged in. Accelerator merely listened to the song. He listened with almost no calculation ability. He listened to that voice that he could never produce.
Thats really sweet considering he sang that same song to save LO
You get stronger through actual life and death battles more than you do any other type of training, pretty much all the characters show this, Accelerator gets huge boosts in ability the moment he starts losing to Touma for example.
Could be to make Will-chan
>tfw you will never go on a romantic bike ride with the boy you love
>tfw you will never run from your quirky grandpa while he chases you and the boy you love
>No hint at anything Yuiitsu related
>Touma asking questions about IB dropped straight away
>The Level 5 Salome interacts with is any that has had loads of screen time recently (Misaki, Misaka)
>Salome's power is shit e.g. the "Makes you confess" thing people have been joking about
>Kamisato and Touma immediately make friends after a quick comedy scene
>Salome is the only villain, nothing else going on that leads to an interesting climax
>No Aleister bit at the end to redeem it
I want the shitstorm. In fact, just the Mikoto confession would be enough. I cannot even imagine the shitstorm that would rise from that. Make it come at the epilogue too, so we have to wait until NT16 to see what happens.
I really want to get some clarification on how Aleister's plan will change, if it will change, after his breakdown at the end of last volume. I can totally see Kamachi choosing now to be the time to have him disappear for another 10 volumes, though.
>"I love you, Touma." Is literally the last sentence of the novel
>NT16 doesn't happen in August like it should
>we have to wait until October or Novemeber for it
>NT16 is actually a Kakine flashback novel and the end of NT15 doesn't get addressed
You seem to be making the mistaken assumption I meant Aogami doing anything as the Level 6 and not the man who would hate a man who has it all but throws it away
It's definitely destroy the part of the fanbase that is invested in Mikoto shipping, whether it be for it or against it. Hell, the shitflinging might even make those that don't care mad
>>"I love you, Touma." Is literally the last sentence of the novel
Him reciprocating would be way more shitstorm-causing. NT17 could just open with "EH, NANDATTE?" and status quo would be restored.
>>NT16 is actually a Kakine flashback novel
You say this like it's possible for a Kakine flashback novel to be a bad thing.
>I love you Touma
>Literally five secounds later
>Eh who are you?
don't think so, people who go against Mikoto's shipping is minority in the fanbase, although not really matter to me if it were to happen. I just want to know about IB to approved the novel
That would actually be fun as fuck, we'd have shiage and ITEM be relevant again and all the good old characters living in England as well. Laura wouldn't be able to handle the shiageluck.
>A Level 5, a result of the dark may project, the End of The Century Emperor and a Level 4 that would flip the entire system on its head if she reaches 5
Kamachi would have to jump through some huge fucking hoops to make ITEM irrelevant in the long run.
The Dark May project was already explained, I doubt we're getting more details on it besides that Accelerator's personal reality was used on some kids. Not everything is going to be pored over in depth.
NT13 is definitely worth it for high priest and NT14 was good too, once you get past the part with kamisato's stupid harem.
He served as a reset anyways so you don't have to worry about magic gods in NT15.
nah it actually advanced the plot some and now theres the anti-touma.
also newist volume has mini-othinus and touma SoL stuff right now, so thats pretty good, last volume ended on a rather sad note and you may want to read NT 14 for at least the epilogue if nothing else.
It certainly seems that way. I'm glad he decided to do it, even if the next volume or two might be a little rough the series should be better off in the long run. The Magic Gods also aren't actually dead they've just been (effectively) put in a pocket dimension style thing, so if Kamachi comes up with good reason to bring them back, there shouldn't be too much bullshit involved.
We will likely have spoilers soon. Not soon soon, but maybe "before this thread hits the bump limit" soon. It's early morning on the 8th in Japan. The novel comes out midnight the 9th. Spoilers probably in the morning
Sounds good. I wonder if kamachi will bless us with another appearance by GUTS.
Accelerator, Kakine, and Gunha are definitely due for appearances. Poor lads haven't done anything in a long time.
It's literally been misaki, mugino, and mikoto one after another for three volumes straight.
I'm just hoping spoiler images get here soon so we know for sure. My best guess is either late tonight or late tomorrow night. Everything regarding this novel has been late so m hoping spoiler images won't be too
Kakine is guaranteed to be relevant again eventually with Yuuitsu in the game and those hints like the shoggoth being colored Dark Matter. Gunha depends on what Kamachi wants to do with him.
It's arguably how useful they are to Aleister, but that still lines up roughly with powers, Gunha aside. Mugino can output more raw power than Mikoto but, as we saw in Railgun, even a pretty tired Mikoto could beat a well rested Mugino working with Takitsubo.
Mugino has more raw power but Mikoto's ability blows hers out of the water. Way more versatile in pretty much every way, as well as being extremely powerful.
Why is meltdowner such a shitty power? Take away a bit of it's destructive force and she'd just be a level 4, like where she belongs.
None of the other level 5s hurt themselves with their abilities. Mugino was just born to job to hamazura.
Gunha isn't useful at all to them as they don't understand a thing about them. Chances are #6 doesn't do anything productive either, but can't be set beneath Gunha for exactly that reason.
the problem is being a pyrokinetic would make him much better then #6 i imagine since with the ability of indeterminate range and no real problem of frying yourself he'd be able to slap misaki and muginos shit in thus solidifying him as #4 or so.
Shouldn't we be getting illustrations by now?
Here you go friends, sneak preview but it should get you hyped for when the full one shows up.
>Contracted writers include Kazuma Kamachi (A Certain Magical Index, Heavy Object), Reki Kawahara (Sword Art Online, Accel World), Tsutomu Satou (The Irregular at Magic High School), and Tsukasa Fushimi (Oreimo, Eromanga Sensei).
Jesus Christ, I was away for half a day and look at all the shit that happened.
>The new company has not announced plans to print its own titles.
Please no hiatus, I'll kill myself.
Is anyone keeping an eye on places where spoilers might pop up?
It's possible we will have to wait until tomorrow night for spoilers but it's entirely possible we can get spoilers late tonight/early in the morning
This thread could use some Konori.
Amended the list.
LITERAL SEMEN DEMON TIER
Girl in the dress
PURER THAN FRESH WHITE SNOW TIER
Saten would whore herself out for a few quick bucks.
No more tsun romcom.
Less screen time.
On the other hand.
>Amakusas, Kanzaki, Itsuwa are back
>Tsuchimikado isn't off screened
>Touma SoL with Delta squad + Fukiyose
>Kakine(original) returns and jobs but this time putting an acceptable fight (vol.15 tier) and saving his dignity
>Kamachi focuses on old characters instead if adding unnecessary ones
>Mikoto moves on from her unrequited crushes and finally becomes an heroine
>Index has screentime again
>Touma actually has all the talks he promised to Index
>Accelerator gets protagonism
>Shiage gets some protagonism
> Shiage's love life isn't cockblocked
And I could go on
I said most peabrain, I'm well aware there's a few autistic Mikotofags who would be fine with her being just as useless in every single volume and taking up screentime from better characters.
There's also the fact that level 6 is acquiring the mind of god while maintaining your humanity. Misaka was very clearly losing her humanity in that process, which means the only possible outcome for her is a transcendental conceptual existence. Which is perfectly in line with what Nuit actually is.
I refuse to believe anyone dropped the series as Othinus ended the world. I could understand if you said 7 or 7 or earlier, or later, but who reads "And then the world ended" and doesn't read the next book even out of curiosity?
I disagree, OT22 was the GOAT.
Anyway, everyone knew that Kamachi doesn't conclude the series with a "everyone died, end" and then he brings the world back somehow from nowhere to continued his plot even if it was forced and senseless device
Of course it was going to come back, but to not even wonder how he'll do it, to the point you don't look at the next books, threads, spoilers or anything is just something I don't believe unless you fell into a coma.
It's for consistencies sake. The rest of the manga translates it as Roman Catholic Church, and Roman Orthodox Church is pretty much just Roman Catholic, doing so otherwise would just be poor scanlating.
This is going to be a bad volume.
The cast will be limited and not have many fun characters, if any show up at all.
Salome's power won't be anything as fun as time stopping.
She won't be a likeable character either, same with bikubiku usagi-san.
Yuiitsu isn't going to do anything interesting, if she does anything at all.
Aleister won't do anything neat like the shiageluck plan someone mentioned earlier.
There will be no hype level 5 fight. And if one does show up to get "misled" it'll be someone no one wants like mugino.
The plot in general will not progress and we will not delve further into the IT at all, unless it's done at the end of the volume like a cocktease.
Yeah, that's drills-chan anon. You are forgiven this time.
Apologies. Updated her name in my system.
Excellent taste though. She doesn't get enough love.
Just wait buddy. I didn't even make my weekly frenda thread because I've been patiently waiting for spoilers.
Either way, sounds like the latest is weekend. Can't wait.
oh goddamn it, that isn't mikoto fucking again
Not image pages.
>misaka wants to get stronger
>rather than improving herself like accel they just slap anti arts on her
Who the hell is she even going to fight? no gods, shit doesn't work on Kamisato
>it's a mikoto fights and doesn't get hurt episode
>Well, if that's the AAA Mikoto is doing something useful at least, the question is which magic gods are even around to use it on.
He not only has influence on Magic Gods but in general over most factions.
His connections go as far as to the US government.
You know what irks me more than the fact it's Mikoto stealing the Level 5 spot this volume? It's that the first character we saw in the Anti Art Attachment was her and not Noukan.
Pack your bags shiagefags, his one niche was taken away from him.
I'm going to laugh if it's someone she's only heard second hand is strong enough to give Touma trouble without understanding that doesn't mean they're as strong as HP. Either jobbing to Kamisato or killing Salaome accidentally.
>Mikoto fucking again
>AAA out of fucking nowhere
>used by Mikoto out of all people
I'm mad and curious at the same time.
>only two pictures out and moonspeak
>misaka fights misaka gets magical armor strong enough to kill a nerfed magic god despite knowing fuck all about magic
>none of the other 5s will appear
>mikoto won't take damage again
I'm not even sure what other images would make up for or cause as much of an impact at that, aogami facing off against someone? There's the outside chance that Salaome misleads every single one of the Level 5s perhaps.
And here it is in case you're too dumb to find it yourself.
You know, that might not be so bad, because then either Mikoto will finally be gone from the story for a while or next volume we'll get to visit the other magic gods
High Priest will still be dead though ;_;
>tfw they could have probably willed him back but their phase magic is gone
It just occurred to me but wouldn't Crowleys double nerf have fixed their problem? The only one that could fuck with phases was neph and that was a one shot.
I don't know if even the Magic Gods would be able to will him back.Even if they're able to create beings just as strong as themselves. If anyone's going to have a permanent death in Index it's going to be people who get killed by Crowley.
DOUSHIO? If Biribiri is the one who gets mislead then I don't know how to feel about this yet. I think she's better suited to team up with Touma to deal with the mislead Level 5 rather than be the Level 5 who gets mislead. Still, could be interesting though.
Will we finally get Nuit? Or will she job again?
One thing it does mean is that Touma won't be punching anyone anytime soon. This disappointment won't leave me alone.
I'm happy actually, I just want Accelerator to get his happy, boring life with WORST and Last Order.
>implying lv 6 mikoto can stand up to AAA mikoto
anon please, she currently has the firepower to slap HP's shit, theres lierally no need to currently go full angel/thelesma god mode.
Forget the old characters that people like to whine about, even accelerator and hamazura mean nothing anymore.
I recall a joke made in these threads, were Crowley sends kill squads after shiage for any reason but lets miko blow up factories left and right without even anti-skill showing up.
>Biri Biri of all people got a hold of the Anti-Art attachment
>its probably gonna be used on touma via bullshit until he punches the stupid out of her
you all know this is whats gonna happen.
I thought the one thing I could count on from Kamachi was to introduce new characters all the time and not use the old ones too much, how are we getting this much Mikoto despite that.
>until he punches the stupid out of her
>mikoto getting hit by anyone let alone touma
You know damn well that is never going to happen. We have a better chance of the MGs popping out of WR and saying they only pretended to be absorbed to see if it would contain their power, or Othinus not actually being weak.
>EVER punching biribiri
I think someone should stab him.
I said once that if Kamachi was going to have Mikoto do something big like confess/power up, she'd be in the summary/on the cover unless he knows he's played around with her fanbase one too many times and is going to surprise us.
Looks like I was right, and surprise it is.
BASED GIRL TO BEHIND FUKIYOSE I DON'T RECOGNIZE
BASED KAMACHI SELF INSERT
AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH she looks fucking awesome.
The first attractive shot of Miska.
>even Himewho appears
>LN has to make up for the railgun manga going to shit by going hard with mikoto
>yfw misaka gets btfo and is about to take damage for the first time
>meanwhile crowley panics and throws AAA on her
>Touma still hasn't punched anyone at that point
I'm ok with it happening, I'd rather some other stuff happened but it's not the end of the world. What I'm miffed about is how much of the damn volume it looks like it's going to take up.
She's kinda kept in the dark though. Both of them keep quite for no apparent reason.
Or Touma at least tries to keep her out of trouble, like that one anon suggested weeks ago
>it's another fight were a magician shrugs off misaka's attacks but doesn't make any real effort to harm her
THERE WAS A REASON BEETLE WAS WORTHLESS