So, how do you feel about this show so far? I kinda feel like

>>139745499
>I kinda feel like it's trying to be a quality show but maybe a bit too hard.

How does that even work? Is it TOO good?

Engrish.

>>139745499
nah it's just that we watch so many shows that don't even try that when a show try to be a little more ambitious many of us think it's just pretentious

>>139745622
I'm not sure that's the case. The poker game where they pretend it's an international meeting or whatever is just silly, it's like a teenager's idea of what spies are like.

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>>139745720
Yeah, no one would even dare put spies and card games in the same plot.
That's ridiculous.

>>139745897
Are they debating over international politics on that table?

>>139746342
They weren't debating international politics in Joker game.
I don't get the point of your question.

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>>139746423
They literally say right in the show that they're playing cards and cheating as some sort of metaphor for international politics. Are we watching the same show?

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>>139746625
Okay you're a complete retard.
I tried to give you a way to save yourself but you won't take it.

They aren't debating international politics.
They are playing poker, but the point isn't who wins at poker by playing fair, it's who manages to cheat the best thanks to a hidden network of alliances/betrayals.

When asked for why they play that way, they compare this situation to international politics.

>>139746787
>as some sort of metaphor
See you get it.
They aren't pretending it's an international meeting, they're just playing poker with lots of cheating.

Best show this season so far.

>>139746999
I'm saying it's a dumb metaphor.

Guys, I think my neighbor is a spy.
I just need someone to make it pass as an inspection.
He talk in a different language but don't worry, I'll be your interpret.

>>139747395
I really don't see what's dumb about it.
My point is spies cheating at card games is a pretty standard thing to see in spy fiction.

>so far
There is only one episode yet you doublebaka

>>139747541
Yes, but, they don't pretend it's something other than just cheating at card games.

>>139747604
>they don't pretend it's something other than just cheating at card games.
They aren't pretending it's something else in Joker game. I already told you that.
Try reading >>139746999 a few more times until you understand.

>IG doing another show about govmerment/military affairs
Aoty ofc. Needed my dose of Nippon dindu nuffn.

>>139748054
Jap media is full of "Nippon dindu nuffin" and American media is full of "MURIKA FUCK YEAR". It's simply a matter of adapting to your target audience. Only a European, an inhabitant of a continent where waving your national flag is seen as fucking racist, would complain. And I say this as one myself.

>>139745720
No spies movies are about real spy shit because few understand that world. Its not glamorous at all.
Which is why James Bond is the only spy everyone knows, because he's basically batman except less bullshit and uses guns and doesn't afraid of anything

>>139745499
It frontloaded so much bad exposition that it drained all the tension in that scene where it should have mattered.

>>139749964
Agreed. Including MC at all and explaining everything was a horrible decision.

>>139745499
I really like it. It had definite potential to be AOTS

>>139747395
I honestly thought it was a pretty clever scene.

>>139750297
Having to explain it kills it.

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>>139749071
hahaha
You don't know Japan.
Japan is full of ''Nippon did everything''.
Recently, some of them started to say both views though.
Almost of us laugh at left wings.
We can watch Left wing shit program and Right wing shit program, at the same day, 2bh.
TVs are mainly for shits.

>>139750456
and I often post 'Japan did nothing' as a joke on 4chan.

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I think I'd enjoy this show more if 90% of the characters didn't look like this after saying something.

You can be cool and badass without being overly smug and looking like a tryhard teenager.