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Why are Masaaki Yuasa and Kenji Nakamura the only directors capable

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Why are Masaaki Yuasa and Kenji Nakamura the only directors capable of making anime with unique visual, including character designs? Does the industry hate variety?
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Scenery porn doesn't make something good my friend.
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because you're dumb
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>>139742923
>Does the industry hate variety?
Do you?
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>>139743081
Well, if the industry's state is dependent on the intelectual capacity of one individual on earth than that doesn't' really give it any favors.
>>139743037
Yes, visual design isn't important in visual media.
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>>139743037
Good thing he posted Kaiba then.
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>>139743405
No, in the context of animation I love it.
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Variety doesn't sell.
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>>139743037
Lel'd.
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>>139744787
Then why does western animation have visual variety?
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Some anime get funding from sponsor. Sponsor demand success and profit. Unless the director is well known for their successful project, usually they don't have a lot of bargaining to create something different.

Want to make anime with creative direction but no one sponsor dare to take the risk?

It's just like most western music nowadays with boring melody or lyrics.
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>>139742923
Nakamura really fell in disgrace
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>>139745008
Which western animation?
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The other Nakamura is ded. That's the thing I know.
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>>139742923
>Implying
Who are imaishi and Hirao?
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>>139745781
are you referring to the fantastic children one? he is still alive, he even funded a new studio, he just doesn't do anything (except for harmonie and some shorts)
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>>139746016
Probably the Kino's Journey/Serial Experiments Lain one
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>>139745736
Any country basically that delivers a bigger animated content. Let's take France. It's to find two works that look alike even if it's by the same creators.
>>139746016
You're talking about Takeshi. He's talking about Ryuutarou. I mentioned Kenji in the OP. All are different guys.
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>>139745677
I wish he would do more stuff like Tsuritama. None of his other shows are really as bright and beautiful as it.
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>>139742923
Don't forget Rie Matsumoto, Mamoru Hosoda, Kunihiko Ikuhara, Yasuomi Umetsu, Makoto Shinkai, Naoko Yamada, Hiroyuki Imaishi, Yoh Yoshinari, etc.
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>>139747548
>listing Umetsu
The guy is not cut out to be a series director.
Also, remove Hosoda and Shinkai and add Yamamoto and Takemoto.
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>>139747548
Oh yeah also forgot Shinichiro Watanabe. Akiyuki Shinbo and Tatsuya Oishi can be included too.

>>139747737
>directors capable of making anime with unique visual, including character designs
That pretty clearly describes Hosoda, Shinkai and Umetsu.

>Takemoto
While I love Takemoto, he doesn't really have a staple character design, and since he works at KyoAni he doesn't get a chance to use a variety of character designs like Rie or Ikuhara, so I left him out in favor of Yamada.

>Yamamoto
Hahahahaha
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>>139748151
>Hahahahaha
What?
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>>139748235
You meant this guy, correct? He's a fucking joke. Otherwise get more specific when listing generic Jap names.
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>>139748341
This one. I don't think anyone calls Yamakan Yamamoto.
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>>139746798
Actually? I haven't seen it yet but you'd seriously put it as more bright and more beautiful than Mononoke?
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>>139747548
>Imaishi
>good director
Pick one
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>>139748621
I love Imaishi.
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>>139748416
You listed her next to Takemoto so I just assumed it was Yamakan. She's good too.

>>139748488
I'd say they're about equal, maybe Mononoke takes it. I just mean stuff like Gatchaman and C just don't itch the scratch I need when I think of a Kenji Nakamura directed series.
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Explain in an objective manner why those designs and visual direction are good, otherwise I'm just looking at pretty pictures.
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>>139748651
Spectacular argument.
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>>139748651
Imaishi hates variety.
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>>139748621
Spectacular argument.
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>>139748691
Yeah, Gatchaman has a strong visual identity but frankly the writing is horrible. Mononoke is a masterpiece to me, so that's high praise. I'll watch it soon.

>>139748716
I'm not trying to argue, it's all tastes and preferences anyways.

>>139748722
How so? Not that I care, either way.
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>>139748855
Tsuritama is really beautiful. I hope you enjoy it.
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>>139748855
>but frankly the writing is horrible.
I don't remember the writing in Tsuritama to be anything worth praising. At least gatchaman has a message other than "fishing is cool be friend with that gay alien".
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>>139749047
Again, haven't seen it but that sounds like something I'd enjoy a hell of a lot more. I don't give two shits whether or not something has a message.
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>>139748855
>frankly the writing is horrible
How? It has extremely smart exploration of all sorts of themes regarding the internet, crowdsourcing, gamification, and the nature/necessity of leadership. I like Mononoke but it doesn't compare to Gatchaman in the writing department, it's more of a visual piece.
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>>139748855
Did you watch Gatchaman S2? I thought it had better writing.
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The Japanese prefer to fold their anime 10000 times to perfection. That's why its stronger than cartoons and filthy korea.
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>>139749047
That's definitely one of the reasons why I like Tsuritama more. It doesn't try to shove it's shitty message down your throat. It's just a fun story about some bros being friends.

Plus I think its visuals are far better than Gatchaman's.
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>>139749235
I'm just extremely critical of anything that tries to be smart. Gatchaman is like exhibit A on how not to poorly deliver a message, in my books.

>>139749247
Yeah, I think I liked it less, actually. Can't particularly remember why though.
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>>139749339
There is nothing "shitty" about Gatchaman's messages. Just admit you like more shallow stories and be done with it.
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>>139748151
Can we include Eunyoung Choi, Hibiki Yoshizaki, and Hiroshi Kobayashi too?
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>>139749339
>>139749160
You both have shit taste then, it's okay.
Tsuritama isn't bad but it's definitely the least memorable Nakamura show for me.
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>>139749422
>There is nothing "shitty" about Gatchaman's messages.
Social media is the future and will save the day! is a pretty shitty message.

I'm all for more complex stories, but Gatchaman didn't have one and what it did have was mediocre at best.
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>>139742923
Eh? Not Ikuhara?
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>>139749497
Choi is almost certainly doing a movie now at Science Saru. Looking forward to Kobayashi's debut as well. Has Yoshizaki done anything besides those two music videos? They're great but I'd like to see a more substantial project outta him. On that note, it was announced recently that one of the aniexpos is getting a TV show adaptation, I wonder what it'll be.
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>>139749497
Why not? We can also add ryo-timo and Ishida Hiroyasu. We could even include Isao Takahata, Hayao Miyazaki and Satoshi Kon. And Uekusa Wataru from Punchline's ED and some music videos.

Point is OP should be buttblasted or he successfully got his recs.
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>>139749829
>Choi is almost certainly doing a movie now at Science Saru. Looking forward to Kobayashi's debut as well.
Hype
>Has Yoshizaki done anything besides those two music videos?
I don't think so, hopefully he gets a big project soon.
>On that note, it was announced recently that one of the aniexpos is getting a TV show adaptation
You mean Yuri on Ice?
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>>139749916
No, it's not Yuri on Ice. They're both figure skating of course but they're unrelated otherwise. The article I read seemed to insinuate it was a different one as far as I could understand.
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>>139748855
>Writing is terrible

I thought this thread is about unique visual in anime.
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>>139749559
KEK.
Your understanding of Gatchaman is on the same level as an average MAL user.
If you can't handle a story that engages with politics on a deeper level then go back to your slice of life crap.
Read any base level analysis before talking shit about AOTD.
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>>139750059
OP is a shitposter and the thread deviated to general discussion of auteur directors.
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>>139750191
>AOTD
If only you left this out your bait would have been successful. Nice try though.
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>>139749829
>Choi is almost certainly doing a movie now at Science Saru.
Is she directing it? I thought Yuasa would be doing that.
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>>139747548
I like many of those directors. But the character designs in most of their works are rather typical. They might be a bit more stylized version of some of the basic aesthetic conventions seen in anime but unlike the character designs in Yuasa's work they never seem to be made out of a completely different mold.
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>>139750342
About time this shitpost arrived.
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>>139750234
What? There's no shitpost in OP's post.
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>>139750403
He's doing one, there are three movies being developed there right now. One novel adaptation, two for kids. From a recent interview published on I think it's a fan blog?
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>>139750491
OP's complaint is as much a shitpost as "why is One Punch Man the only anime that isn't moeshit."
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>>139750501
>there are three movies being developed there right now
Fug. How did they even get the funds? Seems like a pretty big gamble on a new studio.
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>>139750606
Dunno. Maybe external funding? We don't know too much.
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>>139750334
Nah you're just underage or shitposting. Updating the World, Horizontal versus Vertical, Rui in power, nature of leadership, the collective power of humanity.

All themes discussed in Gatchaman that you couldn't pick up on because of your own stupidity.
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>>139750404
>unlike the character designs in Yuasa's work they never seem to be made out of a completely different mold.
I think that's really only true of Kaiba. The rest of his works fit your description of heavily stylized anime aesthetics.

>>139750751
>Nah you're just underage or shitposting
Says the guy who purports a mediocre anime as the best of its decade.
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I mean, I adore Kaiba's visuals and all, but the character designs are very clearly based on Osamu Tezuka's art style so I don't know if "unique" is the right word.
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>>139751327
And Tezuka's art style was clearly inspired by Walt Disney, and so on. It's all relative.
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>>139750022
Link?
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>>139751696
So nothing is unique, this thread is pointless and OP is fag. Glad we could resolve this.
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>>139751327
Sure, it's inspired but it looks pretty damn different. And then there's Tatami Galaxy and Kemonozume.
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>>139751696
I mean, I wouldn't argue that it certainly looks different than the average anime, I just meant that it was a strange choice of words for something that was intentionally derivative of another artist. That doesn't mean the visuals still aren't great and serve the story well.
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>>139749559
Sure, ets have more generic, technophobic science-fiction.
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>>139751735
nhk.or.jp/anime-blog/sp/200/240597.html

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>>139751935
All I'm saying is that just because it's not some universally singular art style doesn't make it not unique, especially when compared to everything else at the time.
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>>139751987
Not that guy, but I think the show was bad independent of the themes it was trying to deliver. I'm all for more of what's it was saying but like, in a less obnoxious way.
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>>139750491
Please.
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>>139746754
List some examples
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OP is a fucking pleb.
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>>139757057
She's too good for current Madhouse.
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>>139742923
>Does the industry hate variety?
Yes, a lot.
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>>139757057
Why doesn't she just go to MAPPA or BONES?
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99>2011
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>>139757057
KyoAni should take her in.
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Who was the Shingeki no Bahamut guy? He did Karas too
probably still looks too traditional for OP's tastes but I like his character designs and style
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>>139756863
Persepolis
Tripplets of Belleville
Kirikou
Princes et Princesses
Rabbi and Her Cat
Fantastic Planet
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>>139757636
Truth.
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>>139760262
Fantastic Planet is great. You forgot Bakshi as well.
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>>139760262
Ernest et Celestine was beautiful too. I also really like Watership Down although it isn't French. I really like how atmospheric and dark it was despite its simplicity
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>>139760262
Triplets of Belleville is good if you want to see the same kind of animated acting for the entirety of however long it was, seriously, grandma is slow, the dog is fat, cyclist is sluggish. I'm amazed no-one felt like breaking it for an effect at any point of it.
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>>139761369
>Bakshi
>French
Ok
>>139763251
Yeah, Ernest and Celestine just adds to that. With western animation it's kind of the opposite. It's hard to find shows with two similar art styles unless it's the same studio or creator. Like let's just take CN shit, Adventure Time, Courage, Johnny Bravo, Adventure Time, Powerpuff Girls. All of those have a different aesthetic and character designs.
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>>139742923
Nice animated blobs, however, I have a hard time masturbating to the characters. It's hard to tell where their genitals are, and the designs make it seem like they are one big ass, which would otherwise be the best thing ever, but it feels like the authors alone know what the appeal is.
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>>139765591
Fuck off.
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>>139765591
Hey, I like masturbating to anime women as well. But there's a time and place for everything.
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It's so funny how sakutards and twitturds think they are anime masters when in fact they just circlejerk while watching the same anime as everyone else, ignoring anything not subbed and semi obscure, knowing only selectively about history, and nothing about the global context.
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>>139766268
Okay?
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>>139760885
>>139757636
HxH 99 was inspired by Eva and Utena right?
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>>139767268
There's an EoE reference but I wouldn't say it was inspired by it.
>Utena
Definitely not seeing this.
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