I wonder if Sayaka and Nagisa's witch forms will play a role in the upcoming movie.
What else is new with the new project?
I hear that supposedly wraiths will play a role in the movie (if it's a movie)
Also Mami is going to play a big role as some kidn of 'god of war' or something.
Really, not much of anything is known at this point. I wish they could at least give us something. I just hope when everythings said and done they are able to tie the plot up in a nice neat bow and not leave us hanging for 3+ years like they did with rebellion
>implying the others weren't
So long as they can control them, and they don't, you know, turn into demons, I'm good with it.
Mami a best
Why is every Madoka thread ruined by tripfag attentionwhores?
We will never see a good Madoka thread ever again because trip attention whores just refuse to not use their trip and just circlejerk like fucking retards. Fuck, i'm so mad. It's the reason i don't even attempt to enter these threads anymore, but i just have to fucking went frustration right now.
Fuck you Apple-chan and all the other tripshits in these threads
Then he must have made a mistake because Mami only takes up a small portion on the left.
I actually thought Apple-chan was nicebut yeah, fuck tripfags overall.
applechan seems to be the only tripshit in this thread. And he only posted once.
I don't understand.
Can Homura be emotionally healed? Because like her or no, she's a train wreck.
Yeah sure, by completely backpedaling from the original series ending, by basically deleting it and setting it up as if it never happened, because that would mean it would be over and then instead of doing the ending they actually intended for Rebellion they rewrote it last minute to keep it open in case of continuation.
They set up Madoka to be nothing but a cash shop, there's nothing great about it anymore. The ending to the main series was perfect and they ruined everything and will continue to ruin everything to milk the cash cow
>setting it up as if it never happened
How? Everything that was by the end of episode 12 continued on into Rebellion. Just because Kyubey decided to tamper with things doesn't mean that the series ending "never happened"
>they rewrote it last minute to keep it open in case of continuation
I thought it was rewritten because they genuinely didn't like their original ending. Thought that, given everything that had happened thus far, it wouldn't fit Homura's character as well as what we got.
>there's nothing great about it anymore
>the ending to the main series was perfect
Both of these are very debatable
Can we talk about TDS and why it's better than the original series?
I'm convinced devil Homura is still part witch. Although they may have saved her from being a full blown witch, part of the witchyness still stuck with her and I think that was a major contribution to her doing what she did at the end.
The presence of the claradolls is proof enough.
Yes. As long as Madoka is able to stop her from hurting herself and others, she has eternity to get better alongside Madoka. I'm sure the sequel will be as much about Homu learning to accept fate as will be about getting Madoka's power back.
What? The ending of Rebellion took a nasty shit on Homuras character. What happened there was so out of character and badly written that i actually looked like pic related while watching it for the first time.
So while she smiles on the outside, she's basically
WAKE ME UP CAN'T WAKE UP SAAAAVE MEEEEEEon the inside?
I like Akuma Homura though.
Pretty curious to see what they plan to do with her on the next project.
If you think about it, Mami had a perfect fate under the old system. Find and raise the next generation of mahou shoujos, and then go down fighting before she could become a witch. Like Batman says, "Either you die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
I would be 100% happy to!
I love TDS, and I'm with you in that it is superior to the main series in a lot of ways (not all ways). Mainly, I felt like overall the characterization was a lot better, especially for the two mains Kyoko and Mami who didn't really get enough development in the main series. I nearly cried for Kyoko in Vol.1, in the series when you learn of her back story it was more of an 'oh thats kind of messed up' but not really feeling anything beyond that.
I agree she was out of character, but I'm taking that it wasn't really her as an explanation for this. Well it was her, but a distorted version of herself. Think about it, witches are technically the magical girl who turned into them. What causes a magical girl to turn into a witch? Grief. So if you look at it that way, it's basically Homura's evil side that rebelled against Madokami and got all smug and evil on everyone.
>a good Madoka thread
A what now?
It would take decades of therapy and lots of drugs. The loops fucked her shit up familia.
TDS made me like Sayaka more.
Did you catch that meguca sisters that showed up in chapter 1 are the Witch duo that Mami and Kyouko fight later on?
I disagree. I think it was completely in tune with her character.
You have to remember her wish for this to make sense. She didn't wish for Madoka to be protected or saved, like some might think. She wished for she herself to be the one to protect her, to save her. This is, and has been, her true goal throughout the series, and Rebellion.
By the end of the series, Madoka obviously makes her wish and becomes a kind of divine being. She is protected from the Incubators and safe from harm, but Homura's soul gem still becomes corrupted. Without Madoka, she has no purpose in life, and as such, fell to despair. This results in Kyubey luring Madoka into her soul gem so the events of Rebellion can take place.
But you must remember what Homura did once she discovered what was going on. Even as a witch, she tried kill herself so that Madoka's life could be spared. This might seem noble on the surface, but in reality, a large chunk of her reasoning for doing this, whether she was aware of it or not, was to fulfill her wish, which had yet to come true.
What happened to the other magical girls before her, prior to their turning into witches? Their wishes came true, no matter how distorted the form. Kyouko's father gained more followers, Kyousuke's hand was healed, and the suffering of magical girls was placed onto Madoka. Homura, however, still had a wish that needed granting. She had not yet been the one to save and protect Madoka, so she, in a sense, was an unfinished magical girl. Her suicide, she believed, would mean that her hand was the one protecting Madoka, saving her from Kyubey, and thus, fulfilling her wish.
continued because length.
I really hope TDS gets an anime adaption. I know I'm asking for a lot, and I know chances are it will never ever happen... but damn, that would be so awesome!
Hmmmm, maybe an OVA covering Vol1 is possible though?
Eh, I can dream.
But this did not happen. The quintet saved Homura from death, and restored Madoka's memories. With Homura's intervention near irrelevant. Her wish was still unfulfilled, and I think she realized it by this time. She realized that she didn't just want Madoka to be safe, to be protected, to live a normal life. No, she realized she wanted to be the one to grant her safety, to protect her, to give her a normal life. It had to be by her hand.
This, I believe, is the reason why she stole Madoka's power and rewrote the universe. With her memories gone and Kyubey beneath her thumb, Homura could not only guarantee Madoka would be granted these things, but that it would be because of her. The wish which started all of this would finally be fulfilled.
Ironically, however, Madoka begins to regain her memories, and while she is stopped by Homura, it is at this point which said half-witch's downward spiral would truly begin. The wish of a magical girl comes true, then they become demonic witches.
This is how the contract functions, how it has always has and always will. It is at this point that Homura realizes that in the end, just like so many before her, her work had been in vain. Kyouko's father massacred his family. Sayaka's love fell for another. Even Madoka, the uncorrupted goddess, was left to wail in solitude for eternity. At this point, Homura realizes that Madoka will one day reascend to godhood and resume her previous disposition. She realizes that force will be necessary to prevent this from happening, if she can prevent it from happening. And at that point, she has betrayed the only person she has come to truly care for.
Homura has not "descended" as so many think. Rebellion's end is only the beginning of her descent. Either Satan will fall, and the universe will be as before Rebellion, or God will fall, and Satan will descend to a despair greater than anything any universe has ever seen.
And it will have, I believe, all been part of the Incubaors' plan.
>Madoka gets a boyfriend and kisses him in the new project
>Sayaka gets with Kyosuke after Hotomi dumps him
I'd like it, but I don't know about everyone else.
>Homura is killed and Madoka resets everything to episode 12's end, only with Homura dead
>Homura deserves to die
and MadoHomu too
Now you're just being mean.
Sorry, but once a girl makes the contract she is then predisposed to lesbianism. The first 2 would never happen.
And anything short of Homu getting a happy ending will really upset me, because despite being crazy devil girl, she deserves a real happy ending at long last. Not the semi happy ending she got in ep 12 being tortured by the fact that she is the only person in the world who remembers her precious Madoka!
Though it's really unnecessary to start another thread. It'd be nice to have one without all the meta, circlejerking, or what not.
Stop samefagging, you literal shitposting autist.
I just want the token hotspring episode from Madoka series already! Or at least a beach episode complete with sexy bathing suits and a slightly embarrassed Homu.
>Homura has not "descended" as so many think. Rebellion's end is only the beginning of her descent. Either Satan will fall, and the universe will be as before Rebellion, or God will fall, and Satan will descend to a despair greater than anything any universe has ever seen.
>And it will have, I believe, all been part of the Incubaors' plan.
Up until this point I was with you. Remember that both Urobuchi and Shinbo wanted Madoka to be free from the Law of Cycles and that at the very least, Akuma Homura's existence allows her to be able to prevent god's lonliness, whether that be as her eternal enemy, friend, partner, lover, etc. Going off of the the theme of fuality, the devil can only exist if there is a god, so to can god only exist if there is a devil. Madoka's ascension to deity status was only allowed by the will of Homura as Homura's ascension to diety status was only capable through the existence of Madoka. While Homura does retain an avatar on earth (as does Madoka in the "form" of her memories taken from the split half), they are both conceptual beings. Law of the universe. What does Madoka state about laws that would get in her way as she makes her wish? She will destroy them OR reform them. The question is if Madoka will be capable lf reforming Homura. The downside to killing her is, as with Ultimate Gretchen death leading to Akuma Homura, a new force will appear at some point and the cycle will continue.
>And it will have, I believe, all been part of the Incubaors' plan.
No. If anything, the ascension of Homura has shown them they have no way of controlling something they can't understand. Unless Kyubey's new found ability to experience terror and his shock at the sight of the devil were all a ploy, then Kyubey cannot have planned any of this. If this were to be the case, this would result in the universe returning to timeline 1. This is essentially a shaggy dog story and would be a cardinal writing sin.
"Oy m8 you talkin shit like I wouldn't find out? Better say that to me face and not online you cheeky cunt and see what happens."
What is this face trying to convey?
Really anything short of a MadoHomu ending, even if it's bittersweet or tragic, would be be incredibly disappointing and possibly even irresponsible from a writing angle. Homura just wants to be with Madoka and Madoka obviously wants to be with Homura. Just let them.
Plot is fine and all, but there's only one real question here.
What goes through her head when she sees our tiny little planet?
Daily reminder that
Mami is a pedophileand she touches Bebe in lewd placesevery night
>implying our lord and savior homura is anything but perfect
Unfortunately I've come to realize in anime that "it would be a cardinal writing sin" does not necessarily mean a particular thing won't happen, though I would hope to be able to expect better from the Quartet.
You have to be 18 years or older to post here, Kyosuke.
>Madoka hates Homura because I said so!!!!
This meme is getting stale
One is a literal Goddess.
Another is an innocent sweetheart willing to try "new things"
The one in the middle is a closet pervert, whose mind is turning into spaghetti with joy.
Everything about this is adorable.
Inb4 greentext of the interview that "definitely happened I'm not making this up you guise :^)"
Speaking of butcher and making shit up, some anon in another thread is pretending to be an animator for Shaft. It's pretty epic.
Why is Sayaka such a dork?
>Aoi Yuki interview
>Q2: Say something to transformed Homura-chan!
>A: No matter what form you take, Homura-chan is Homura-chan. Falling in love with someone is wonderful, so don't call yourself the devil. I love you. (I think that's what Madoka says...!!!)
She's just a little kid at heart, a little grammar school girl who's had the whole world thrust upon her.
I am all of them, though I heavily disagree on the ego part.
>someone actually took their time and effort in making this.
Have to say, I wasn't expecting that to exist.
Where did this joke of Homura stealing other people's panties start anyway?
People started joking that Homura's obsession with Madoka degenerated into a strong sexual desire, and as such, panty-stealing jokes were made.
I guess time magic is the perfect tool for a cat burglar... or panty theif. Also,
Well, at least we know where her other hand is.
>tfw Moemura will never couch you on how to pleasure Homura
Why even live.
The third one says...
>Homura-chan is nice, but she can be a little creepy sometimes. Sometimes it feels like she has some kind of weird obsession about me, and I wish she would cut it out and just be normal. *sigh* I know I have to do my best to be good to her anyway, though.
I think he (it?) means you can't change them after the fact with someone else's magic. He did go on to clarify that you could change them as part of a wish.
Q1: What does the new Madoka Magica movie mean to you?
A: The awaited sequel. The new experiment. It's like drawn Madoka's own story began moving from the stopped time. It is the special work.
Q2: Say something to transformed Homura-chan!
A: No matter what form you take, Homura-chan is Homura-chan. Falling in love with someone is wonderful, so don't call yourself the devil. I love you. (I think that's what Madoka says...!!!)
Q3: What scene did you like in the movie, what scene was memorable?
A: In the flower field, when Madoka braids Homura-chan's hair. Did she want Madoka to accept her weak self, I wonder... That's what I thought about. No matter how many times I watch it, it makes me want to cry.
Q4: Did you keep something in mind during the production?
A: Was I able to present the Madoka that Homura-chan and everyone wanted... I wonder... It'd be nice if I could...
Q5: Please say something to visiting fans.
A: Please love MadoMagi. Thank you. I'm glad that I was able to contribute a bit to MadoMagi that all of you like!
I can help that come true if that's what you really want
This bad bitch in all her 10" glory is going right up your ass.
Silly Homuhater, Madoka loves everyone!
Everyone loves Madoka.
Even Madoka loves Madoka!
The exhibition Yukashita by Gekidan Inu Curry http://www.yaso-peyotl.com/archives/2015/10/inucurry_yukasita.html Dammit! Tokyo! They always get everything! Come here Osaka!
Don't bully him.
I'll fuck him. You can fuck me instead him.
You should praise Magica Quartet for their courage. They took a risk that the audience might hate the Rebellion and the strong partnership was lead the movie to success.
You know how to handle the point.
Madokami will guid her!
>TDS made me like Sayaka more.
Sayaka is a nice character, Buzzclaw.
>Without Madoka, she has no purpose in life
>Her wish was still unfulfilled
This. Homura's wish is a curse.
>Remember that both Urobuchi and Shinbo wanted Madoka to be free from the Law of Cycles and that at the very least
+ Aoi Yuuki
>the devil can only exist if there is a god
This is the point of Rebellion and the foundations for future development.
>a new force will appear at some point and the cycle will continue.
I like your assumption. Probably it will begin to maintain their universe. I think so as well.
>And it will have, I believe, all been part of the Incubaors' plan.
This problem is the key point of the next project. We still can't know how it works, though. At least Kyubey was upset in Rebellion after he was caught by Homura.
>it would be a cardinal writing sin
Actually Madoka Magica is very religious Anime.
Because the mind numbing reality of living completely and utterly alone for years has broken her mind to the point where even menial tasks like putting on shoes becomes a strained mental task.
Or she just likes walking barefoot. There's that too.
I like Madoka's new (magical girl?) outfit we saw in the concept trailer. I wonder what thats all about. Pic unrelated.
She works so hard to paint Homura in the worst possile light.
If anything, barefoot usually implies carefree. It's depicting Mami as a gentle, innocent soul, no matter how much shit she's been pulled through.
>Sayaka has a shackle
What does this imply?
Don't you even dare bring up Charlie, the most assmad Madoka fan there is.
It was not so much destruction as revision.
>is a wheel a wheel of only half of it is there?
No, I don't think that's him. Our resident Homuhater I've determined is Polish, since the same copypasta he's used against us he first used on a Polish forum.
>When her full name is written vertically in hiragana (あけみほむら) and covering the left half at a certain angle, it could be read as カナメまどか which is Kaname written in katakana and Madoka written in hiragana.
Reminder that it's not heaven if Homu isnt there. Homura will be the one to truly complete the Law of Cycles.
I'm off. Bye!
1. Madoka is stronger than Sayaka. Sayaka can't even make it to Walpurgisnahct, let alone defeat it.
2. Homura is the strongest as long as no one knows her power. Even then, you'd still need someone like Mami to defeat her.
Base Madoka before any of the Homira created timelines wouldn't stand a chance against Sayaka. Homura could beat any of the girls considering she can catch them off guard but that can be said about any of the girls with her as well. If it's a fair fight that's where she stands and btw Mami could have destroyed Homura three seconds into their fight if she wished.
>it's a "Homura did nothing/everything wrong" thread
in the original timeline, didn't Madoka defeat Walpurgis? She was injured badly enough that she died soon after, which Homura's wish undid, but that proves she is stronger than any of the other girls...
...unless of course I'm totally wrong about this and just making stuff up. Thats a possibility.
I don't think you got the point of the list. The list is ranking the magical girls against each other. Against witches Madoka would be pretty good seeing as her power is great for that sort of thing as they are big and less likely to dodge and probably aren't that smart but she'd get destroyed against any of the magical girls.
>look mom! I posted it again!
>he he he, YAAAAAY!
And you're little better.
the reason I put Mami over Homura is she has more power at her disposal than Homura. She got distracted in her fight against Bebe but that could have happened to any of the girls. Homura took the fight seriously and had likely fraught Bebe many other times before.
yeah, but fuckin Walpugisnacht though? Even Mami fell to him and she has the Tiro Finale which I'm going to assume she used at some point even though we never saw her fight against it.
I think that list is heavily underestimating Madoka.
Furthermore, Kyubey only contracts Sayaka as a means of manipulating Madoka into a contract when Homura manages to prevent her from contracting. Therefore, Sayaka at the very least is weaker than Madoka because why else would he prioritize Madoka over Sayaka if Sayaka indeed had more potential?
It seems like there's just one guy who goes around hating on everything homo.
Sayaka had her back to Homura with her hands above her head and was in the middle of a speech. Homura decided to use time travel and Sayaka had the time to turn around draw her sword and precisely jam her machine with it and had one extra arm to finish her off coupled with her healing ability. I highly doubt base Madoka would stand much of a chance against a non newb Sayaka. especially if she missed her first shot.
Seriously though, this guy gets it. Not to mention, Madoka's bow is multishot and it appears she can alter the trajectory of her arrows to an extent.
Madoka is incredibly powerful and has a strong commitment to her ideals. She is willing to die for them. The problem is... she does. And that's why this is PMMM and not Nanoha.
And that's just Sayaka, Imagine her fighting any of the other Magical girls. Sayaka could likely dash straight at Madoka tanking her shots and feeling no pain and deal a critical hit that would put her out of commission while healing from the damage she took in seconds.
If Sayaka ever closed the gap it would be over in seconds which is why Kyoko would be the biggest threat to Madoka as she has a weapon that is the best mix of range and close quarters coupled with massage strength and the ability to entrap enemies in close quarters situations with her chains like she did with Sayaka. Homura and Mami wouldn't struggle against Madoka either assuming they were not holding back.
This is without Kyokos Rosso Fantasma ability she lost. Kyoko could possibly be the strongest Magical if she had it still.
Ok, bringing up post law of cycles Sayaka is not fair. Plus, this was in Homura's labyrinth, things are not exactly consistent in there. If we're talking total noob Madoka, we have to match her up against noob Sayaka as well, who didn't even last 2 weeks as a magical girl.
I want Kyouko and Sayaka to have a fight, realize how they can't be without the other and then have steamy make up sex
I'll add once again because it's pretty important. Non-noob Madoka beat FUCKING WALPURGISNACT. We don't get a great display of her abilities in the series, but I'm sure she would do fine against most Magical girls.
I have a feeling a shot from Madoka's bow would do plenty of damage even to Sayaka with her healing factor. She is hella acurate with it to because she hit Mami's soulgem from a fairly decent distance away. Granted, Mami wasn't really paying attention, but it was still a small target. I don't think Sayaka would be able to outright dodge Madoka's arrows.
I'd also assume Sayaka could doge and deflect most of the arrows when you consider the speed at which can magical girls move. She she wouldn't even need to totally rely on her healing/tanking ability to close the gap which in my opinion would be plenty enough already. I don't even like Sayaka but I would put my money on her against Madoka.
Base Sayaka doesn't last 2 weeks as a Magical Girl.
Base Madoka beats fucking Walpurgisnact.
In what way do you think Sayaka has the upper hand on her?
Wait, these aren't my Gataris.
Forgot my pic
I already said Madoka is actually one of the strongest when it comes to fighting witches as her powers are well suited to it but not fighting other magical girls.
ok, I just rewatched the clip. She was a little closer than I thought. Irregardless, I think Madoka is plenty good with her bow and dodging her attacks wouldn't be so easy as you think. Since she beat walpurgisnact while mami with her Tiro Finale couldn't, I'm assuming those arrows also pack quite a punch, so one good arrow is all she would need to gain the upper hand and win against Sayaka.
Again Magical girls have shown the ability to doge bullets with ease so I think arrows would be cake. We also didn't see Madoka defeat Wal in the first timeline. Mami could have done most of the work for all we know. Anything after that and Madokas Karmic boost makes her unbalanced.
Mami is already dead and Homura is on the sidelines begging Madoka not to fight it. Madoka says 'sorry, it's my job as a magical girl' then the next frame Wal is dead and Madoka is beat to shit.
Madoka didn't just come in and get the last hit after Mami's sacrifice, she went after Wal while it was still relatively strong based on what little we have seen.
And once again, the simple fact that Kyubey would have no interest in contracting Sayaka if not for the sake of manipulating Madoka says a LOT. The fact that Sayaka has the lowest rate of survivability on top of that should more than prove my point.
Sayaka could only easily defeat Homura, but only if she's aware of the time travel ability. Mami and Kyouko are OP. Madoka might have a harder time but she could simply dodge the attacks and attack Sayaka from a long distance.
That's because of Sayakas attitude more than anything and you were right about Wal I forgot Mami already died but like I said we have no Idea how week it was by that point. all Madoka would really have to do is keep shooting it from a distance. Until her soul gem ran out of power and that's likely what happened seeing as she was out by the end of the fight unstead stead of Wal destroying it. It's not like she destroyed it with a couple arrows or anything. I've already said Madoka likely has the best move set for taking out witches but not Magical girls.
Maybe. I still think Mami would be alightly above her since Mami has the perfect combination of strength, agility and strategic intelligence. I wonder if Kyouko will ever get that ability back.
wellp, while I don't agree with you I do respect your opinions (however wrong they may be). Sorry, but I must go now.
I had fun discussing this with you. Farewell.
I wish I befriended a cute homeless girl who was in need of a good scrub down.
I feel like this is an oddly specific kink. wanting to wash a girl who is being resistant to it. Maybe I should just have children but the problem is I couldnt sex them afterwards. I wouldn't want to anyway. Ew thats gross.
lounging in a tub with my cute sexy girlfriend who is a tough girl in normal circumstances but embarrassed when her clothes are off. Thats so cute!
Quit squirming around! I need to get your back now ^.^
Why is she so perfect?
>after 2.5 years people still don't beleive that Rebellion is the end of madoka magica
You should just become a mod to "save" /a/ when your self-moderation effort over 2 years in Madoka threads has resulted your endless ban and was turned out to be absolutely futile.
Things are getting worse and worse and you know that very well right?
isn't that what you did though?
I dont exactly mind debating with you, but you provided no proof of samefagging, nor did you provide proof of change in behavior. You simply stated your belief that you believe someone is samefagging, and claimed that multiple behaviors in multiple posts had not existed before a show airing. Would you like to give it a shot?
Also a screenshot for evidence
This is a gyazo link, a screenshot tool. You can have fun trying to explain how i got a screenshot of this and edited that mid screenshot.
I will just ignore the lunatic and continue posting my waifu
holy shit. You are insane. Like, go see a doctor. The extreme work that !akemi would have to put into this charade lasting for months at a time is just crazy. Literally everyone in this thread could be !akemi, even you. nobody can prove themselves, everybody is !akemi. Everyone might as well change their names to !akemi for every madoka thread.
Better idea. How about this
This is !akemi. You can tell because they consistently try and point out someone else is !akemi to draw blame away from themselves and start fights. You had us going for a while, but we figured you out.
Alright, fair enough. I can kinda see what you are getting at now. The only issue i have is that there are multiple people who just dont like getting told they are something they aren't. Some might be !akemi, but its reasonable to assume youve also gotten in wrong on occasion too.
I thought "Crack shit" was simply an insult you were using. Waifu wars and ships of all kinds go hand in hand with anime discussion. Is there something in particular about the ships that makes the threads lower in quality? Also, nobody want to google something just to deal with a guy whos aggressively attacking everyone in the thread. I could be wrong, but what im seeing is a typical case of "My tastes are better than yours" gone bat shit crazy
Hrm. Alright, good enough. I just wanted to make sure you had at least put some thought into it. You have fun on your witch hunt. Doesnt this just give more attention though? I dont need a reply or response, just something to think about.
This triggered me. I am Japanese. I am deeply disappointed in you.
Guys, for real, stop responding to Anticrack-kun. Just filter
And Madoka threads will improve significantly. Stop feeding an obvious troll.
Don't use the word as a derogatory term.
About as deranged as the average YouTube commenter.
But if the new project is after Rebellion how will the wraiths be there? They are supposed to be between the series and Rebellion.
That's pretty neat. Here is bad apple in case you didn't know about it
Homura is a good girl who deserves love and eternal salvation.
Yes please. Homura did what was necessary. She deserves good.
ACK, just stop.
You are the one who derailed this thread. YOU. Were a few crack images posted? Yes, but most of them were many hours ago, and some of them even contributed to some kind of conversation inspite of the image that went along with those posts not having a cannon pairing.
Yes there were other crack image posts that didn't contribute anything, but it wasn't enough to derail the thread.
You can not stop the crackshippers and in your efforts to try you habe accomplished nothing but sinking down to their level and in fact becoming worse in a lot of ways.
I know whats coming next. Lots of green text with things like "XDDDD I would never pretend I'm not !akemi or lie on the internet", maybe an accusation that I didn't provide proof and therefore everything I said was invalid. Maybe a complaint that I'm calling you out and not the crackshippers.
To the latter, I'm not calling out crackshippers because from what I can tell crackshippers are not ultimately the ones who derailed this thread. You are. You are not helping the comunity, and in fact I'm convinced many of these crack shippers are posting just for the sake of provoking you. In a way, your war against crack could even be creating more crack!
Now, I've asked this before. But why? WHY? What do you hope to acomplish? Please answer this part if you answer anything in this post, because it's the most important. What are you trying to achieve by doing this?
Lets say you succeed in proving !Akemi is in this thread? So what? He's just going to show up in another thread later, still lying about his identity, and still posting crack. (if he was even here at all?). You've been doing this for a whole year now, what have you actually accomplished?
Can you please, for the sake of all of us. Can you please just stop? Please?
I don't know why I'm even bothering. You are probably just going to think I'm Akemi and therefore the enemy.
I'm more interested in what will happen with Kyoko and Sayaka's relationship.
>my IP range
Golly, do you own a Class A network or something?
Why the hell am I bothering with this...
>Those posts have no "conversation" in them at all.
They are talking about something related to the series at least. What you and me are doing right now is not.
>No, they've made it clearly to everyone but you in the world that you're the problem
but Akemi still hasn't gone away has he? And he still posts crack doesnt he? Also, your argument is flawed. If what you hoped to accomplish is proving to everyone in the world that Akemi is the problem, and your claiming that you accomplished this, then why is this still going on?
>You don't even understand what the word derail means
Off topic posts that ruin the thread. Like what we are doing right now. In your first post this thread (I think first) you quoted a bunch of crack shippers, and accused them of samefagging. How is that ontopic or helping the thread? Espeacilly considering most of those posts were posted hours before you quoted them?
>its okay that they spam crack because they are just doing it to bait you
I didn't say it's ok. You misquoted me and ignored the point I was trying to make, and then proceeded to insult me. Please make valid arguments.
>To make sure that everyone, even new people to the threads...etc...
looks like you drove off at least one potential poster. Now go ahead and acuse me of samefagging or whatever means you will use to discredit this. Also, how is making people understand that Akemi a problem REALLY helping the community?
>The one's who are bating with crack?
Because I haven't actually seen that this thread. Maybe you can prove me wrong. I saw some crack posts but they were very few in number and I'm not sure if they were truely baiting. You're number of posts far exceed theirs, in fact. In this specific thread, at least, I think that YOU are the problem.
>change muh posting style
If you want to think I'm Akemi thats fine, but don't use it as a reason to discredit me.
I think his real agenda is to completely ruin these threads, because he is resolutely opposed to generals and considers this the most cancerous of them all. He hopes if he can derail every one of them, they'll stop. It's not even about crack or shitposting, it's a concerted attempt to do what Accelspammer once tried to do and forcibly drive us out of the board.
Unfortunately, there is a very vocal section of the community that supports this agenda, and I frankly have no idea how to deal with that, short of creating an /ag/ board so we can be left in peace.
crap, now he is going to say this post is samefagging and use it to discredit it. Thanks a lot XD lol
Also, what do you mean when you say /ag/ board?
And when you say drive 'us' out, who are you referring to?
By an /ag/ board, I mean "Anime Generals" a la >>>/vg/ and by us I mean all of us who post in Madoka threads.
See pic. Oh and, BTW, even when you change IPs, all the posts you made on that machine are still marked with (You) because it's cookie-based, not IP based.
Oi there, I couldn't help but notice that your post portrays nothing remotely Madoka related.
Please don't bump a thread with something so meaningless.
Sage your posts or stop posting altogether.
>Show me where in TDS Kyouko sucked on Mami breasts, then you might have a point.
Not the point I was making. But fine, I'll give you this one. Still doesn't discredit my point about the other posts.
>I can only make you and other people realize what cancer you are.
By derailing threads to argue with me/him? Do you not see the irony in that?
>Explain how crack is on topic.
I didn't say it was. And I like how conveniently you ignored the rest of the point I was making. Here I'll copy/past it again so hopefully you don't ignore it next time.
>In your first post this thread (I think first) you quoted a bunch of crack shippers, and accused them of samefagging. How is that ontopic or helping the thread? Espeacilly considering most of those posts were posted hours before you quoted them?
>there is only using this thread to prevent future threads from being ruined in the same way.
the thread seemed 100% fine to me before you showed up. There was a few crack posts, but it was less than ten and didn't really derail the threads quality. There was some conversation about the show going on, a debate about sayaka VS Madoka in a fight. The thread looked fine to me. After you showed up, it became the typical crack shipping war that we see far too often in these threads. If this is how you save Madoka threads, please stop, because it is not working. No matter how much you delude yourself into thinking it does.
>Was more than likely you,
Heh, I sure called that one, didn't I?
>It prevents him from misinformation and lying to people
What lies is he telling? I thought the problem was that he spams crack shipping for the sake of trolling. I think people are generally smart enough they don't need you to tell them if that is wrong or not. They can figure it out on their own.
Now go ahead and ignore every valid point I made. Go ahead and quote this line and say something like "You make no valid points, Akemi" or whatever other cheap method you will use to discredit me.
As you can clearly see, I am posting on an iPhone, and there is NO way to edit webpages or cookies on an iPhone.
Anon, this fight clearly doesn't involve you, so stay out of it.
>Anon, this fight clearly doesn't involve you, so stay out of it.
It doesn't and I hate to get involve with your off-topic meta garbage but when you sage threads that are terrible and ruin thread quality, then you're a fucking issue, tripshit.
>This is what makes it so obvious who you are.
I didn't say what I think changes anything. You are putting words into my mouth. You asked me why I don't tell that to crack shippers, and I told you why 'I' did not. How about giving me an actual responce now?
>Again, the fact you think "credit" actually matters just shows who you are.
Thats a pretty flimsy basis to decide my guilt on.
>Here's a question for you. This person http://desustorage.org/a/thread/139708732
>Do you really think
I'm not sure what you are trying to say here.
>caring this much about relationships of fictional characters
sorry, I'm getting an error on desu storage so I need to post this here. I will sage.
>No, address everything that was said or fuck off and die.
Very well... I feel like we are going in circles on a lot of these points but I will indulge you.
>Already explained how the thread is ruined once you start posting crack in it, there is no irony.
There was no crack being posted at the time you entered this thread. The crack posts were HOURS before you showed up. You derailed the thread. YOU. I then showed up and bought into your bullshit because I guess I don't know any better, but you are the one who came in and started talking about non-madoka related stuff.
>Then you are say crack derails threads
Please rephrase this. I think there is a typo in there, but I'm confused about exactly what you are trying to say.
>Wrong, you being happy rolling around in shit does not amount to the thread being fine, retard. Just because think the thread is fine does not mean it actually is.
Ok, then what was wrong with the thread before you showed up? Was is those crack posts that were posted HOURS before you showed up. I'll say again. No crack shipping was going on at the time you showed up, and after you showed up the thread just turned into you arguing with people and no discussion about the actual series going on.
Continued in next post....
> you just stated how obvious your behavior is
Your the one with obviouse behavior. You have about a handful of 'go tp' comebacks when you don't know how to answer a question or respond to a point. This mostly involves accusing someone of being Akemi, or misquoting someone to say something like "Xdddd i would never lie about how long ive ben posting in madoka threads"
>There you go again, thinking that word actually means something.
You are pinpointing a single word in my argument to discredit the rest of it. Please stop doing that and give me real responses.
>How about your big one. That there is only one person against crack shit and that there is nothing wrong with crack.
I didn't say that. But as far as I can tell I am indeed only arguing with one person right now. Sorry, this part confuses me. I might not have enough information and theres some things I dont know.
>You sure did. Because you said that you didn't see crack shit posters baiting, and that because you didn't see it that they weren't doing it.
Ok very well. Point out to me at what point the crack shippers ruined this thread, and then I will point out at what point you entered the thread. You will see that the crack ships were from HOURS before you showed up and the thread was on a fair course until that happened.
>I said that person, who was clearly spamming crack to bait and attack people was here just yesterday, do you really think they went away and just stopped posting.
Probably not, and I'll agree that thread was obviouse trolling. Doesn't change the fact that this thread was not derailed untill you showed up. Once you meet my challenge on the previous point, I will prove this.
Ok, I see you once again refused to meet my challenge. I'll quote it incase you missed it.
>Ok very well. Point out to me at what point the crack shippers ruined this thread, and then I will point out at what point you entered the thread. You will see that the crack ships were from HOURS before you showed up and the thread was on a fair course until that happened.
This was posted at 05:52:09
Prior to this, the most recent post that could be considered crack is this >>139731107, posted at 01:39:17. Over FOUR HOURS before you showed up.
Or is this post your complaint? >>139737474? Because even after you posted I don't see much in the way of crack. Even this post isn't really crack because it is not portaying the characters sexually or romantically. Even if it WAS crack, it is only one post.
therefore, YOU derailed the thread. YOU did it. Well, I helped you by arguing with you, but still. If you hadn't started it in the first place there would be no need for a thread derailing argument.
I eagerly await your response.
>Was there crack in the thread at all, yes? Then you have your answer. If you just go out into your living room and shit on floor is it fine if you just ignore it for a a few hours? Does that magically make it go away?
So you will derail a thread that has even one crack post? Do you not see how easily you can be abused and used for malicious intent by someone who wishes to troll if that is your reasoning?
In spite of the crack, the thread had a few decent covnersation topics, which are now spoiled because of this fighting.
Please... Stop fighting the crack shippers... its not helping... it's just not...
>I still continue to believe that the anticrack fag and the fags replying to him are all just one person trying to ruin all the Madoka threads.
Ano, as sad as it sounds, is it likely that you are wrong and they are different people
It's four or so people getting butthurt about tripfags. Reddit is less of a circle jerk than this.
I liked 3 and 11 as well, 10 was best though.
I did not "refuse to meet your challenge, mongoloid.
Fine, you want an exact post? >>139724883 >>139725751
Right there is where you started shitting on the metaphorical floor of the thread.
And you refused to answer literally everything I have said, so really, why should I bother proving you wrong again. Again, the shit does magically disappear with time.
No, I will not derail the thread, because once I post, the thread has already been derailed by crack posts.
You mean you?
You are literally saying you rather wallow in shit (crack) than just fix the problem.
You are straight up saying that giving the crack shitposters what they want, a safe space hug box to shit on the characters is the way to "solve" this.
Again, you are fooling no one.
First how about you prove it's one person, or how about you prove that they are actually the problem and not the crack shitposters who are clearly trying to ruin threads by attacking people. People who are the contributors for the fandom, mind you.
And that poster is here, in this thread, and they get shitpost to their hearts content all because they are crack shippers like the mod himself. The rules do not apply them, Troid does not care that they support CP or spam gay nigger porn on /u/. As long as they are spamming crack, they get defended.
>blocked the IP range of my (one) mobile device(s)
Guess the admins finally answered your begging.
You know what is absolutely hilarious? That you damage this whole site and and hinder many other posters just because you have a personal vendetta against me and all the people you think are me. Talk about insane. You don't block or even ban the crack spammers ( ), but you will hurt this site and its traffic just to try and get rid of me.
10 was a really good episode (the best, probably), but in my opinion the episode 1 will always have a place in my heart. The intro, with the dark atmosphere and Walpurgisnacht in the distance, and specially the song "magia", which I immediatly searched to put in my song list, were the things that made me watch the series. And very glad I did
Agreed on 1. I really appreciate it a lot more as a re-watch. I'd have to say the entire last third of the series is what really cements its quality. E8-12 is the definition of Urobuchi's wild ride.
Oh look, "another" brain dead mongoloid who thinks "lol xdd I would never lie on the internet" is a logical thing to say, and that if they say the just got to the thread that it is now an infallible truth of the universe. Sure is odd how many many people in Madoka threads are retarded enough to think that. Oh wait, could it be it's actually all just one retard samefagging like mad?
>And you refused to answer literally everything I have said, so really, why should I bother proving you wrong again. Again, the shit does magically disappear with time.
So two posts made it worth arguing for hours on end and derailing a thread? Well, if that is your reasoning then I guess there really is no way to stop you.
There is nothing more that I can do, but hope that you just go away some day.
I don't want to argue with you. I just want this to stop happening to Madoka threads..... You win....
Reminder that these two were always meant to be together.
Yes, you quite literally gave constant non-answers to everything I said, or just didn't address it all together.
EXACTLY like you are doing right now. You refuse to answer anything.
If you want to make this stop, make the mod do his job correctly by banning the people he should be.
>If you want to make this stop, make the mod do his job correctly by banning the people he should be.
Including you. You're as toxic as they are with your pointless long winded posts.
I answered most of what you said... AS I said several times, the points we were making were starting to go into circles and it felt like we were at a stalemate and not getting anywhere...
....look, I don't know what to do. I wish there was some magical string of words I could put together that would make you stop this and actually start contributing to the thread.
I mean, do you even like Madoka Magica? I never hear you talk about the series or the things you actually like about it. IT's pretty much a constant anti-crack war with you.
I know who you are annon and I'll really discuss this with you if you really want to. If you start shit posting the same thing I'm going to ignore you. Why exactly do you think Madoka will try and kill Homura.
>words scare me because I'm autistic
No, I was not talking in circles at all. I was directly addressing what you said every single time. And I've already proven literally everything you've said wrong. You tried to say some bull shit about the posts being old, but that doesn't matter at all, because when they were does not change that they exist.
>make you stop this and actually start contributing to the thread
Why not say this to the crack shit people who attack the scanners and translators for these threads? Oh right, because that would be you attacking the contributors, and you refuse to fault yourself for any of your behavior.
And yeah, I've translated and scanned countless doujin and manga, and that includes one for Madoka. You are the one who gives nothing to these threads.
When there is no shit in threads again, like there used to be, then people will start contributing again. Why would do you think anyone would want to give anything to these threads? It's like throwing your food into a pile of shit.
Just stop. It's obvious you are doing it on purpose to try and masking your "posting style"
Mood, tone, music, dialogue, setting, etc
All these things matter. Madoka hugging crybaby Homura in a lily field while emotional music plays as they're telling each other they never want to be separated is significantly different than Madoka consoling Sayaka after she came to the conclusion she'll never be with Kyousuke.
Homura may have gone a little crazy but I'm sure Madoka understands as she's seen everything Homura has gone through to save her. Remember that Madoka was a Magical girl before Homura and thus doomed herself to that fate. The only reason she's even alive if because of Homura.
Madoka took pity on a pathetic Homura. She never loved her. There is no evidence for it but your goggles. Also Rebellion Madoka was fake and said what Homura wanted to hear. Real Madoka doesn't care about Homura.
Madoka regrets saving Homura because it birthed the devil. Someone else would have eventually saved her and not been a selfish, obsessive, abusive failure. Homura is not sympathetic because everything is directly or indirectly her fault and she blames everyone else for it. She does not love Madoka, she wants her kindness for herself. She did everything wrong, Madoka won't allow an evil shit that has become evil incarnate to exist. Homura will die as she deserved in the first timeline.
I didn't say YOU specifically were talking in circles, I was saying WE were. I was adressing you and you were adressing me, but ultimately it was going in circles. So I gave it up.
And this is the last time I will say it.
if 2 posts means a thread diserves to be driven off its rails then we will NEVER have a decent Madoka thread. There will always be at least 1 or 2...
Well, I know there is nothing I can say to make things better since this is your reasoning... so I'm afraid I will just have to give this up and except that it will never end... I really wish it would though.
I'll also add the obviouse... Those posts are STILL there. They didn't go away inspite of all your efforts, so what is the damn point?
Please just stop... This thread is already ruined, but in the future can you PLEASE just let it go?
I don't want to fight with you... I just want this to end!
To be honest, anons, I believe all the yuri undertones in PMMM were deliberately put there by its creators because they knew it would increase the series popularity
>Madoka regrets saving Homura
>Madoka will not allow Homira to exist
These seem like opinions to me annon? Can you post any proof of this? Homura basically saved Madoka and used her new power to try and insure she and her friends could possibly live a normal life despite it causing trouble for her.
>I was adressing you
No, you weren't. You were giving non-answers like I already said and explained, and you ignored. Like you have ignored everything.
No, oddly enough, before you showed and and before tumblr infested this site, there many many good Madoka threads. If you knew what the madoka /a/ scanlation catalogue was, you'd easily be able to confirm this for yourself.
>There will always be at least 1 or 2
Why don't you just go shit on your floor one or two times. I mean, it's only one or two times, right?
>it will never end
All it will take to make it stop is by more and more people telling off the crack shitposters to the point where Troid can't cover it up.
Without the yuri undertones, Homura wouldn't even make sense as a character. Even if Madoka doesn't accept Homura's love, i it was pretty clear Homura's resolve was steeled by her love for Madoka in the series.
You're trying so so fucking hard to change your "posting style", and it just makes it stupidly obvious because you're trying so hard.
And no, the posts didn't go away, but now you know that you will never ever get your tumblr safe space hug box where you can shit on the characters and ruin the threads as much as you want.
And do you really think anyone wants this to keep going on? Of course not. But people also don't want threads to filled with shit, which is what you want.
>This thread is already ruined
As soon as you started posting crack.
>Q: Is Homura in love with Madoka?
>Urobuchi: It is a very twisted love, but it is love nontheless. It is kind of scary to be honest.
>Q: Does Madoka like her back?
>Urobuchi: Madoka never loved Homura. From the beginning is was just Homura's obsession. It's that kind of tragedy of never being cared for that makes you evil. In this case, Homura is evil because no one has ever loved her or ever will.
>Q: That sounds horrible! (laughs)
>Urobuchi: Some people deserve loneliness. I think Homura is one of those people. (laughs)
>making shit up
Akuma Homura is shown mind controlling a terrified Madoka and torturing Sayaka. Mami is actively trying to murder her. There is no forgiveness for the monster Homura. Madoka regrets saving her because Homura ruined her life and wish. Homura will continue to hurt and murder others until Madoka kills her.
Homura doesn't love Madoka because she doesn't view Madoka as a person. It's an obsession.
No, they don't scare anyone. If they did scare me I wouldn address them and try to avoid them. Because being scared of something means you don't want contact with it.
You know, exactly like what you try and do for all the posts you ignore and avoid answering.
And you, again, are the one who is autistic, because you can not commincate with other people.
I, like a person with a brain, recognize the crack shit damages the threads, thus want it to stop ruining the threads. That does not mean I am scared of it. Like you are scared of words that will shatter your out look on life and make you want to kill yourself.
You are impossible...
I most certainly did respond to you for a while. You are just being a fucking asshole now, go read back through our conversation.
It's not a bad annology, but it's still fucking bullshit. Just ignore the crack. Please for the love of god jsut ignor it
JUST IGNOR IT JUST FUCKING IGNOR IT
You insane fucking bastard!! Just fucking let it go!
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JESUS FUCK I'm loosing my fucking mind over here....
...ok... I need to go now.... Im getting way to angry about this.
.....just let it go....
At least one problem disappeared. Kyouko would be very happy about that and most likely laughing.
>Urobuchi himself said
In other words, when prompted, Urobuchi tried his best to come up with an answer that wouldn't remove any ambiguity or room for different interpretations, but wasn't completely successful for that particular question. His other answers in other interviews make it pretty clear that he doesn't actually intend to shed any light on the issue.
It's much harder to argue platonic at this point. Considering the platonic love stuff was stated before Rebellion and a handful of interviews have describe Homura as being in love with Madoka after Rebellion.
No, I will not be autistic just because you think that's normal behavior, !Akemi.
Would you just ignore the shit on your floor? No? Then you have your answer.
I still want to know what you thought was perfect.
>Why don't you just go shit on your floor one or two times. I mean, it's only one or two times, right?
Its not ok. But once there is already shit on the floor, you can't clean it up by dumping more shit all over it, and this is where you anology fails...
Just stop it...
>Would you just ignore the shit on your floor? No? Then you have your answer.
You can't clean shit by dumping more shit on top of it.
Please just let this go...
I'm begging you. Literally begging you.
Stop letting this happen to the Madoka threads.
Please for the love of god. I never beg, but I'm begging you.
and for the love of god... I am not Akemi... uhgg.... why am I ever bothering?
The original thought was that it was platonic. It makes no sense to have it turn romantoc all of a sudden. And I personally prefer to see it as a platonic love. Seems more admirable, what she did.
>Homura mind controlling Madoka
That's because she's trying to do what's right in her eyes for Madoka by trying to giving her a normal life.
You're deluded if you think that's torture. She's basically telling Sayaka what she intends to do and erases her memory to ensure Sayaka can live a normal life as well. Sayaka is never hurt.
>Mami is actively trying to Murder her
No Mami just wanted to know what she was up to and not trying to "murder" her as she could have overcome her at any point in their fight and even after she had captured her wasn't going to kill her.
>Madoka regrets saving her
>Homura will continue to hurt others unless she's stopped