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Why DID asuka hate shinji so much

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Why DID asuka hate shinji so much
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>>139709055
Bitch with no empathy.
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>>139709086
it's got to be more than that. She didn't hate kaji
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He was a far better pilot and got all the praises she felt she deserved, also she hates how passive-aggressive he is, add the attraction she feels towards him and you have Asuka.
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>>139709055
Because he wouldn't hold her.
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>>139709055
Because he never treated her like the alpha she thought she was. Because she liked him, but hated how he was too dense to realize how badly she wanted his entry plug in her connection terminal.

Because, apparently, it's normal for others to get caught in the crossfire of your own self-hatred
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>>139709055
>reposting images you just downloaded off /r9k/
OP please die.
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>>139709055
She loves him in the end though.
Inb4 "kimochi warui.
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>>139709312
I never go there anymore, it's become shit. I found this a while ago on some anime image board i forget the name of
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>>139709055
so what scene is that image from? Episode, movie, where is it? I watched EoE and I can't remember seeing it.
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>>139709055
Because she was a traumatized 14 year old whose entire existence had revolved around being the best and being validated by the attention from it. Shinji was a reclusive, shy kid who overshadowed her on top of being someone she was interested in/attracted to despite him being the antithesis of what she aspired to be attracted to in order to feel like an independent adult.
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>>139709438
I hardly either but just chanced upon a shit thread with that image.
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>>139709486
It was either in episodes 25-26 or EoE
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>>139709376
I want to exterminate all you shipping retards once and for all.
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>>139709616
what did happen to them, by the way? didn't they used to be a bunch of suicidal depressed people? last time i checked it looked like /b/
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>>139709685
It's not shipping you fag, it's one of the possible interpretations of the ending, and has some real basis.
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>>139709685
you're gonna disregard canon plot elements because you think it's shipping? you clearly did not understand what the point of NGE was if that's how you think
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>>139709055
Teenage girls only respect strength, authority and rough dickings. Shinji had none of above.
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>>139709055
Jealous bitch over the fact that Shinji is best girl
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>>139709055
Shinji is a beta nice guy. Bitches want a man to treat them like shit and fuck the shit out of them
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>>139709055
because shinji was a beta bitch and she didnt want him to be
if she didnt like him and if he wasnt a better pilot she wouldnt give a shit
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>>139710041
Fuck off back to tumblr you retard.
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>>139709777
Bullshit. Teenage girls like handsome guys. The sensitive low test musician is as popular as the jock.
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>>139709710
Festooned with normalfags for a few reasons.
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>>139709142
>>139709055
Kaji = alpha male

Shinji = omega male

Asuka's natural instincts to selectively breed took control. Her shunning Shinji was akin to female herd animals warding-off an unworthy male so that Kaji (the superior male) can have exclusive breeding rights.

This is why women can't be trusted; at the end of the day, they are controlled by estrogen.
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>>139709769
>muh headcanon is canon
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>>139710290
but what was the trigger
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>>139709055

forced drama
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>>139710397
did you even watch the fucking show? there was sexual tension and feelings between all four of the eva pilots
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>>139710422
It's been in decline for years but the popularization of Pepe was fairly damning, as evidenced by the outpouring of Poopoo peepee OC in an attempt to disgust normalfags.
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>>139710478
>tripfag
>meme buzzwords
not on my board
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>>139710154
>sensitive low test musician
I guarantee he will be later cucked by chad, Tyrone, and the rest of the football team
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>>139710499
I never said there wasn't, it's you using ths word "love" that's wrong you shipping fanfuck.
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>>139710601
>not allowed to call emotion love because muh shipfag boogeyman
I hate you boogeyman posters who show up in eva threads recently
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>>139710656
Anti ship sentiment has been around longer than you have. Take it to Evageeks
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She's a bitch with no self insight.

Rei is a good girl with self insight.

Rei is best girl although even she can be bitchy some times
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>>139710337
>This is why women can't be trusted; at the end of the day, they are controlled by estrogen.

Doesn't it work for men also?
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>>139709055
IIRC she hated how he didn't walk around acting like an arrogant hot shot despite getting all the praise for piloting an eva. He had what she wanted in that aspect but he didn't really care for it while she lived for it.
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>>139711037

once men satisfy their desires they are able to reason, there is no equivalent for women.
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>>139711037
Estrogen doesn't affect men that way
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She wanted him to save her and hated him because he couldn't.
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>>139711037
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>139710337
>>139711450
>>139711496
>>>/pol/
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lesbian
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What the fuck happened to /a/? What's with all this garbage /pol/tier shitposting in a fucking Eva thread?
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>>139709486
its EoE right before 3rd impact mindfuckery.
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>>139711580
>>>/lgbt/
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>>139711496
I thought I didn't need to explicit that estrogen/testosterone swap in the first place
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>>139711580
kek, triggered
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>>139710041
>Freudian themes and references
>in Eva
Say it ain't so!
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>>139711801
hello tumblr
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>>139711933
I think your confused tranny
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She hates him because his pathetic self is an outward reflect of her inner self.

She hates him because he has so much going and doesn't care about it. He doesn't lavish her with praises either. It wounds her pride and ego this guy can be better than her.

She hates him for not acknowledging her little female wants and needs, even though she probably sees relationships in terms of power and Shinji doing that would seem like he's the superior, on top of her other problems with being intimate.

In short, she's crazy.
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>>139710891
Wrong.
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>>139709055


“Maybe that's what love is, I thought: it's being pissed off.”
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>>139709055
She hated everyone, but most importantly she hated herself.

She wanted a knight in shining armor who would love her for her, but unfortunately the only character in Eva who fits that role is a gay alien.
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shinji and asuka are pretty much the male and female userbase of /r9k/ respectively

timid insecure faggots and histrionic insecure cunts
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>>139709055
>>139712573


she hated him because he reminds her of her insecurities.
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>>139710705
that doesn't make it any less retarded
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>>139711694
what the hell, I watched EoE this week and I don't remember a flick of it
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>>139712315
It's correct, autistic shitposter-kun.
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>>139712575
how did you find your way out of shitpost central?
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>>139710891
>>139712315
>>139712774
please don't start this today anons. i want a slightly less than shit thread for once
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Fireposter goes on /r9k/, I saw him there the other day.
Fuckin' Asukafags, man.
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>>139712903
The autistic asukafag probably has some mental disorder or something.
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>>139712575
Back to your containment board shitstain. You're wrong and a faggot.

>>139712735
Shipping is retarded, antishipping is fine.
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>>139711817
i can see the cockpit of an eva being like the mothers womb, and technically they are inside their mothers, with the AT field, but the whole vagina flaps thing and entry plug being a penis is pretty stupid and groundless
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>>139712950
shipping is immature, antishipping is autistic and obsessive
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>>139712903
Why are you derailing threads with unsourced rumors about your favorite poster to hate?
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>you will never fuck Shinji and Asuka
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>>139709177
Shinji was probably the worst pilot out of the three, it was his mom doing all the work after all.
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>>139712998
>I'm so above you for choosing the middle road
I thought people like you would have killed themselves already.

>>139713028
Shut up.
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>>139712903
>>139712942
>asukafags
>fireposter
please not today, see
>>139712886
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>>139713028
Why would I want to fuck an ugly tranny?
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>>139712903
>Reifags admit to browsing riddit9k and make shit up
Neat.
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>>139711694
>>139712773
what time exactly does this scene goes? I'm searching through it and I can't find it also, wtf, do I have a different version or what?
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>>139712903
That isn't very surprising. He posts like an /r9k/er.
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>>139712952
Tbf, that's an observation that's been floating around for close to two decades that's bolstered by the explicit Frued references in the show, but, on the contrary, you could probably see a penis and vagina in anything if you look hard enough.
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>>139710041
The pic is pure autism but yeah it's got the right idea. I mean, the EVA being his mother etc...
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>>139713118
>you will never escape the shitposting from asukafags
Feels bad man.
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>>139709788
Literally the only person who's right
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>>139713082
i accept relationships if they are canon and ignore any fan pairings. if a character genuinely loves another character or has affection for them, there's no reason to deny it because you have some autistically obsessive "antishipping" code. In the end your both getting autistic over a pairing
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>>139713158
Right after the sandbox scene. My copy of the film has it at the 1hr, 27s mark.
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>>139713283
There's no genuine love though you delusional shipper. Again, take it to Evageeks. Fuck.
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>>139713224
it's obvious the EVA is his mother, but the vagina and penis theory is laughable
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>>139713324
are you the same guy who is always ranting about asukafags and "fireposter"?
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>>139713424
No.
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>>139713446
wow, so there are two instances of intense autism occurring in these threads. holy shit
>inb4 yeah it's you
not today
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>>139712838
>>139712950
/a/ is a containment board though
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>>139713514
I'm an Asukafag that despises shipping, that's all.

>two
Oh summerchild, you know nothing.
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>>139713202
This.
Freudtards want to see phallic imagery everywehre.
Fags.
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>>139713551
oh wow you really are from /r9k/
fuck off now please.
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>>139713424
Everyone rants about asukafags and the "fireposter" these days.

Asuka faggotry has reached some sort of high grade density, and we all suffer for it.

>>139713661
>BENIS IN VAGINA :DDDD
t. Freud

It is sort of funny though, and whether it was intentional or not, thar be phalluses anyway
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>>139713283
The only person Shinji says he loves in the show is Kaworu.
I think he did love everyone else too though, even if he didn't realize it himself, maybe in a different way.
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>>139713756
It's like, two Reifags maybe.
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>>139713756
I don't rant
it only summons the autism
do you guys also hate asuka, or just the poster?

and how do you see every cylinder as a penis? it's a bit ridickulous
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>>139713853
It's everyone.
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Because he's a baka
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>>139713879
It's filenames kun and a Reifag or two.
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>>139713744
are you really denying that this board is trash?

I mean, it's not full on garbage like /v/ /pol/ /tv/ /r9k/

but it's demi-trash, it's like /mu/ tier
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>>139713923
It's everyone.
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>>139713832
if a character shows intense concern, affection, or physical closeness, chances are they do have some level of feelings for them. honestly though, only kaworu did nothing wrong. i remember being really triggered by it when i first watched it, but now i see that shinji was just going for the only person who showed him much kindness, and gender didn't matter at that point.
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>>139713958
I have no idea where you're pulling this from unless you're one of the Reifags mentioned, a trolling Kaworufag, a shipper or a certain unnamed trip.
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>>139713927
it's the only decent board, every other board is pure shit besides /m/ and /a/
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>>139713869
You can see penises and vaginas wherever you want.

Dream about entering a door? Clearly you want to get in that puss m8
Dream about filling a glass of water? Yeah, you fill that hole with your man liquid you stud
etc....

Not saying I do it myself, but you can interpret however the hell you want. I see it as being more of a coincidence that played out.

>do you guys also hate asuka, or just the poster?
For me it's more that I dislike the fanbase. Very toxic. Fireposter is just an exreme. Unfortunately that distaste does rub off on Asuka.

>>139713853
It's practically everyone, even Asuka fans need to call out the fireposter at times. At which point they will turn on each other.
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>>139713958
it's just (You)
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>>139713998
Anno said he intentionally made the relationship between Shinji and Kaworu homoerotic.
Probably goes into his whole obsession with freud, who talked about gayshit frequently.
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>>139714040
>>139714094
It's everyone, and I'm pulling it from /a/ obviously.

Note: "Everyone" does not include the fireposter himself, or any Asukafag defending him.
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>>139714047
Fuck no.
>we're all little girls right gaies :3
>purest form of love
>but that's forbidden love
>semen demon
>what are you, some kind of faggot?
>edgy fujoshit
>ha ha I bet u havent even watched 20 shows, Naruto/SnK/KlK/whatever fag
>boku no pico
>FINDS A WAY!!!
>I want to fuck X
>hey, X is my waifu
>mah nigga
>shit taste detected
>why is she so perfect
>X best girl
>X a shit
>what do X's feet smell like??
>i want to hold hands with X
>b-b-b-but anon, that's l-l-lewd
>h-h-hesitant typing
>i want to abuse spoiler text
>you outsider scum are ruining my perfect board, fuck off before I email moot
I know you love to call the people you disagree with you outsiders, but the problem with /a/ is you. Every posting style that /a/ has developed memetically is unfunny and obnoxious. You can find better discussion in youtube comments, and most of /a/ is best girl flame wars and fawning over softcore porn. You assume your board is a paradise and redirect anybody who doesn't fit in to somewhere else. You belong to both the dumbest and most pretentious board on this site. You are misguided. You think you are protecting something valuable when you are only fitting in to delusional groupthink. The project of your life is a vapid wasteland, a glitzy casino made of recycled water bottles, a treasured nothing. You will believe you've won an argument when I stop responding. You are an idiot and belong in the prison you built out of strangers.
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>>139714132
i just don't bother responding to trolls
ironically i'm doing it now though
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>>139714151
We also masturbate.
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>>139714132
Says the Reifag.
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>>139714151
we meme things because we look for a little fun in our dull lives. let us do it in peace
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>>139714188
I'm not trolling dude this guy gets banned multiple times a day and everyone is fucking fed up.
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Fuck, I remember listening to this on repeat so much when i first watched NGE
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Can we get the fully established mythos about Fireposter from the Reifags yet? I could go for some tall tales.
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>>139714188
>>139714229
Even Asukafags hate this guy.
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The fireposter and textwalling autist are the representative extremes of the Asukafag and Reifag fanbase respectively.
If both of them got banned I foresee Eva threads would be a hell of a lot better.
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>>139714311
https://youtu.be/sZLKtjATZt0
i really am retarded then
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>>139714322
Hello fireposter.

If you're so ashamed of your own posts and presence in this board that you won't admit to even your own existence, why do you keep doing it?
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>>139714342
>>139714322
I've never seen the worst
i think it's yet to come t.b.h.
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>>139714342
Fireposter gets banned already, and "textwalling autist" doesn't exist, it's what the fireposter calls anyone posting more than five lines of text that also says something he disagrees with.

Even other asuka fans.
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>>139714395
I'm just asking for the full recount.
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>>139714342
It will never happen. These threads will be shit forever, just like Madoka threads.
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ello lads
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>>139714342
Who's the second? Is it the asukafag who uses a trip?
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>>139709055
Why are we discussing why a character from a shitty overrated anime hates the pussiest of all MCs?
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>>139709055
>Why DID asuka hate shinji so much
She was a pure-blooded Aryan German and he was a dirty Nip.
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How to fix Evangelion threads:

Put a permaban on the fireposters ISP. Let mods moderate Evangelion-threads actively and remove him whenever he arises from some proxy. Hell, ban any Asuka fan who supports his shitposting as well.

Enjoy vastly improved Evangelion posting.
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>>139714580
>t. Reifag
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>>139714322
I'm the one who gave the guy the name fireposter in the first place, I honestly didn't think it would still be a thing so many months later.
I don't know if I should be proud or ashamed.
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>>139714533
because it's not actually shitty, and if you call shinji a pussy MC, you probably are a fucking casual who would enjoy something like fairy tail or bleach
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>Asuka fans will never, ever stop shitposting

Why /a/, WHY

>>139714567
I guess things went downhill since the 40's huh.
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>>139710087
Shut up you gibbering tryhard. It's not like he was endorsing their ideology.
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>>139714623
Figures a Kaworufag would be behind the scenes. I'm surprised it hasn't spawned any fanart.
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>>139714673
>thinking you can reason with the asukafag autist
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>>139714567
>pure-blooded Aryan German
>Half breed
>pure
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>>139714719
>any hostile post is muh boogeyman
Loving this choice meme.
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>>139714687
There was some OC lately, not very good but still accurate OC
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>>139714719
what did my post have to do with asuka?
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>>139714770
Except that was just some faggot trying to be funny. Rei is the toilet anyhow.
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>>139714767
>fireposter aka "asukafag autist" defends himself
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>>139714770
but reis the one who people meme as a toilet
i'm confused
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>>139709055
>Why DID asuka hate shinji so much
Don't you?
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>>139714828
Not really.
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>>139714840
no, i understand why he acted like that
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>>139709055
She's a stupid bitch, that's why.

But really, her childhood was fucked up, so she lashes out at everyone.
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>>139710041
Chances are they took this picture from here Senpai.
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>>139709055
She's jealous that he's better than her and also that he is the best girl of the show.
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>>139714814
no, rei was holding a toilet which had asuka in it, in that thread.
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>>139714905
that's pretty gay
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>>139714921
What I said still stands.
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>>139714840
Sure Shinji is annoying and pathetic but I don't hate him its like hating a baby turtle
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who here /autism/?
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>>139714687
What do you mean, behind the scenes?
You know it was me who named you from last year because we were in the same thread when you were spamming fire and got banned for it.
It's not my fault that it caught on, I only called you it like twice.
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>>139714979
Everyone
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>>139714979
/autism/ here, that's probably why i could relate to shinji
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>>139714623
If it wasn't fireposter, it'd be something else.

There's been many "fireposters", I remember before that there was a tripfag named "asukafagget" as well that was notorious for shitting up things.
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>>139714151
What was this pasta railing against originally?

Seems like some Huffpo commentator got their jimmies severely rustled, and tried to pull the I'm-the-Only-Adult-in-the-Room card. I'd love to know what burnt his bum.
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>>139715082
This anon gets it. Reifags are always eager for a boogeyman.
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>>139715082
Fireposter is a better name because it reminds him of the time he got BTFO by mods for spamming 250 images of fire. Now that's some autism.
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>>139714342
Wait, so Asukafags shitpost incessantly, and Reifags actually discuss things?

Why don't we just gas all the Asukafags then or put them in the oven, and have great Evangelion threads?
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>>139715094
they didn't like his naruto theories, or thread in general
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>>139715215
Reifags don't discuss, they derail threads with meta.
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>>139715176
Uh, no. I'd be saying that people would be calling you something else, Mr. Fireposter.

Your whole crusade against Reifags was always a lost fucking fight because everyone, even Asuka fans know you're full of shit, and you even attack kaworu fans and everyone else.

>>139715193
He was always autismo #1.
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>>139715094
it's an /a/ original
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>>139715075
I couldn't relate to him.
I felt really bad for him up until everything went fucky, then I thought he was a useless piece of shit.
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>>139715193
>250
What will the number have risen to in a year's time, I wonder?
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>>139711580
I fucking hate this place
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>>139715283
>even Asuka fans
A shipper or two and a trip?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrKMiE9WII0

Why have I not been informed that this actually EXISTED? The fuck is up you guys
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>>139715274
*Asukafags derail threads with meta
FTFY

You can't just attack Reifags for doing something everyone else except asukafags like the fireposter is trying to do, actually talk.

Reifags and other Evafags are perfectly capable of having adult conversation, after all there's a reason Asuka-fans frequently get banned on this board, because they just go too far with their off-topic nonsense.
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>>139715215
>Wait, so Asukafags shitpost incessantly, and Reifags actually discuss things?
I thought this was obvious.
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>>139715302
the point was he was an insecure teenager going through puberty in a fucked world. of course he couldn't do things right, the eva system was ultimately a failure because fourteen year olds with extreme mental disorders could not be relied on to be soldiers
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>>139710041
Anything going into a hole is seen as sex to someone.
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>>139714626
>He left Asuka to die
>Didn't get the balls to go against his father
>Got pushed around whitout the force to say no to anyone
>Isn't a pussy
Also, Evangelion is shit. Just because the ending was 2deep doesn't mean it's better than the shits like Bleach or Fairy Tail that go straight to the fight without plot development.
Too many dialogues that weren't used for nothing. Too many scenes that were just to fill the 26 episodes. And they even need a movie to explain the shit they made in the 2 last episodes. Sorry, dude, it's shitty and overrated. 6/10.
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>>139715416
Replying to yourself again?
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>>139715402
Are you actually trying to falseflag as a Kaworufag right now, Reifag?
You're fucking cancer and forever salty Asuka a best.
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>>139715430
that's retarded
anyone who thinks like that deserves to be gassed, along with their family friends and race
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>>139715416
I just don't get why >>139714342
thinks discussing is a bad thing, is he trying to make Asuka fans look better by implicating rei fans or something?
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>>139715495
>discussing
Textwall kun doesn't "discuss
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>>139709055
Yee, I wonder why
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>>139715430
Yeah, it's like people that seriously think missiles are shaped like that because penises and not because it's the most efficient shape.
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>>139715483
>implying I didn't just pick an image in my eva folder to get some images in this text-hell

Because according to you, I must now be a shipping faggot as well, right?

Go away you loon.
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>>139709055
>Why DID asuka hate shinji so much
the better question is who didn't hate shinji?

seriously though this is in part because she was a suicidal girl; who dedicated her whole existence to proving she wasn't going to "wimp out" and kill herself like her mother, and dedicated her young life to being the "BEST" to validate that existence.

Then along comes Shinji the beta-kun Akari. Put yourself in Asuka's shoes for a minute. Here you are winding yourself up, putting forth 110% all the time, just to keep your mind off killing yourself like your worthless mother. just to give yourself purpose. and along comes this pussy little unmotivated whiny little bitch called Shinji. Whats worse is Shinji doesn't even TRY and he's better at the one thing you thought you mastered. He doesn't even want to pilot the EVA yet he's already a better pilot then she could ever be. No matter how hard she tries she'll never be as good as he is.

Considering the above it would piss me off every time that apathetic beta fucker opened his mouth to whine about something. It would piss me off whenever he bitched or complained. it would piss me off whenever he acted unmotivated. Throw in the fact she's a 14yo girl with a serious death wish and you can't blame her for both wanting to fuck him so she doesn't die a virgin AND hate his guts at the same time. (who else is she going to fuck in her age group?) She probably WANTS to love him so fucking him will meet her dream scenario for losing her virginity, but he's such a whiny bitch it sets her off every time he does anything.

BTW: I already know there will be a group of people complaining that Asuka wasn't suicidal. She 100% was, and you need to rewatch NGE again if you didn't get that aspect of her character. she didn't kill herself because she thought that was the "wimp" way to go out, but it showed up as a massive deathwish and disregard for her safety, along with her desire to fuck SOMEONE before she died.
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>>139715537
>retarded shit
Okay fireposter, you can go away now.

>>139715546
>saying the male patriarchal symbol is the most efficient
SEXISM
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>>139715481
he was a kid, the entire point of eva was that a teenager with mental disorders would not flourish when burdened with murder and the lives of billions of people. it's not a show about fights, so the ending isn't supposed to be some light entertainment that only pleases the senses or shallow emotions. it's a criticism and study of society, civilization, and the human soul and mind.
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>>139715638
>along with her desire to fuck SOMEONE before she died
Nope. Shinji or bust.
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>>139715638
Nobody cares. Asuka is a sociopathic bitch.
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>>139715743
>*Kaji or bust
ftfy
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>>139715638
>Put yourself in Asuka's shoes for a minute. Here you are winding yourself up, putting forth 110% all the time

More like 30% or 40%. I never saw Asuka as someone who put in a lot of effort.

Every time there's something to do, bam, Rei's there with a volunteering attitude. Asuka only wants to do things afterwards for rivalry's sake.

Take the magma diver incident. She thinks it's below her to do the job, and so she never really tries to do her best and only wants to when Rei volunteers.

Then when they're off to dance, Rei nails it and Asuka doesn't because she doesn't want to put in the effort.

She's the archetypical spoiled brat. Compared to Shinji or Rei, she's basically satan.
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>>139715743

Wasn't Shinji just the rebound pick for Asuka, in case Kaji rejected her?

Though its obvious that Shinji and Kaji were the only men that Asuka was interested in, and even then it took a while before Asuka warmed up to the thought of Shinji.
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>>139715784
You won't even hold me
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>>139715784
Awesome shipping discussion we're having here giys nyaa~ Remember fireposter is a meanie! >___<
Now let's get back to some astute discussion, am I right /a/nons!? Heck yayuh. You know it.
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>>139715638
>the better question is who didn't hate shinji?

I didn't hate him but I agree with the rest of your post. Most of it, anyway.
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>>139715881
I'm undesirable not just to Kaji, but even to a fag like Shinji?
Better kill myself.

t. Asuka "cuck" Soryu.
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>>139715692
>Mad because of stating something everyone already knew
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>>139715965
Awesome discussion we're having here guys. Just top notch stuff really.
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>>139715849
If Kaji is Asuka's dream lover, then Shinji is like the cheap slut that she fucks and dumps one night when she's drunk.

She laughed when Shinji "died" from Leliel. She's practically a landwhale from tumblr.
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>>139715541
that picture was clearly made by a retard who expected eva to be a generic beat em up shonen and got a surreal psychological piece instead
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>>139715849
I think even Asuka knew Kaji was a fantasy
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Alternate hairstyles, go.

>>139715839
Rei is such best girl.
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>>139709055
Because Shinji was just SO MUCH BETTER than her.

She's a jealous cunt.
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>>139716143
there are no best girls, just NANOMACHINES and POTTERY
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>>139715737
I didn't want a "light entertainment that only pleases the senses or shallow emotions", I just wanted that Evangelion could brang ANY emotion. The anime don't make you care about the characters. The anime sold itself as an mecha anime and when you watched it wasn't that. Between the fights it hadn't any plot except the depression and doubts of Shinji, and even that is finished poorly in the end.
Evangelion is just masturbatory material for people who think they are better then the rest because saw something deep in it.
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>>139716076
It's funny if you acknowledge that it ignores so much of the show. But some retards really think like that.
>if i wer shinji i would of tapped them 3 bitches at the same time while riding on my robot he's such a puss
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>>139716143
[email protected]@K just *Awesome* discussion we're having here, team. I'mreal proud of the progress we could make today. Live it. Live it. DAMN. I mean f*kinv SHUCKS (I censor myself becuz i dont want to be offensive) are we just the intellectual elite or what? Swag guys. Just swag.
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>>139709055
>Why DID asuka hate shinji so much
She hates everything because she's frustrated with herself not being the best.

Shinji is a better pilot, Rei is a better student, better soldier, better discipline and always so perfect and nice. And she is a bitch who ruins everything and she knows it.

That's why she's super mad.
She was programmed that she lives to be the best but she cant be the best so she hates herself and her life and the world and literally everything.
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>>139716216
Asuka knows she's the worst girl herself.Jealous of Shinji, jealous of Rei, is there anyone that's worse than Asuka?

>>139716228
There are best girls, boys and best women too.
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>>139709055
He got all the attention and results, even though he was trash. She got none of the attention nor result even though she was competent. She never got a good reaction out of him when they reacted. He couldn't even make advances on her unless she was comatose. She expected a man when he was just a boy.
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>>139716243
>The anime sold itself as an mecha anime and when you watched it wasn't that
i actually knew nothing about it being "deep" before i watched it, so i was surprised by it, but i also liked. I'm sorry the anime didn't make you care about the characters, although that wasn't so much the point.
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>>139716308
I can't wait to find another mysterious post vehemently dicksucking you in absolute agreement.
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>>139716143
Sorry mang, you don't get to redefine perfection.

What rei's hair is that is the perfect ahair, all deviation from the perfect are a change to worse
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>>139716303
what are you even doing negro
>>139716333
that's not what the series is about you mongloid
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>>139716308
I agree with you so much let me suck your dick
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>>139716308
>>139716333
Rei is so motivating.

She suffers a lot but she does her best, even when it hurts her.
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>>139716333
Can you be any more blatantly biased? Nice discussion fggot.
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>>139716255

Right? Two of them have mommy/daddy issues respectively, and the other is a brick wall in human form.

Not to mention the higher your synchro rate the more real the pain feels, and that includes having your hand impaled, being cooked alive via laser, mind fucked, etc.

It's just bad and the homo and Kaji don't make up for the all negatives. Fuck getting in the robot.
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>>139716333
>s there anyone that's worse than Asuka?
Hikari
That's why Asuka is feeling okay with her.
Hikari is so boring and non-outstanging so Asuka feels superior and confortable with her.
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>>139715481
>He left Asuka to die

To be fair to Shinji, i always thought that Unit 01 was supposed to be encased in bakelite at that point, so Shinji couldnt get to it, and the reason he was all mopy in the hangar was cos he realised there was litteraly nothing he could do
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>>139716444
holy fuck that art is bad
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>>139716379
What about this one?

>>139716456
Hikari is sort of a doormat that sucks up to Asuka, understandable why they'd pair up.
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>>139716490
That's just Rei.
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>>139716490
How does this make you feel?
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>>139716455
of course, someone will always be there to reply "it wasn't deep, it was just confusing and your stupid!"
fuck those casuals, they can go back to watching mindless shonen
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>>139716455
Most people would have ended in an Asuka-like shock far earlier
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>>139716540
very upset and mentally and sexually violated
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>>139716426
>that's not what the series is about you mongloid
Who said the series was about that? There are still best boys, best men, best women and best girls in NGE.
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>>139716502
I'm sorry pal, but when i seen Rei for the first time I stopped fapping for redheads and long hair, started searching short hair tag.

Just so you know how much she dictates what i like, so sorry i don't want any other hair.
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>>139716243
>I didn't want
That doesn't matter. The intention of the anime was just to use mecha as a vehicle for social commentary. If you didn't get out of it what you wanted, that's because it was never a mecha anime played straight. This isn't pretentiously "deep" like the useless Christian imagery. This is deliberately frustrating the viewer's expectations because that's what post-modernism likes to do.
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Ebin discussion kids. Ebin.
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>>139716600
everyone is the way they are for a reason, and no character is without flaw and merit
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>>139716338
>He got all the attention and results, even though he was trash. She got none of the attention nor result even though she was competent.

>Be incompetent
>Consistently getting results

Pick one.

Asuka is the one that's trash, not Shinji. No matter how much Asuka or Asuka fans lie to themselves, that's the truth.

Asuka is worse than Rei and Shinji at being a soldier, an EVA-pilot. She's weaker, Shinji and Rei are stronger.
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>>139716668
>>139716446
>>139716303
>>139716041
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>>139716660
>>139716243
and when it is about the mechas, it portrays them in a radically different and unsettling way. Instead of having robots, you have giant psuedo-humans with destroyed minds and warped features
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>>139716675
But some have more flaws than others, and less merit than others.

Shinji is best boy.
Rei is best girl.
Misato is best woman.
Kaji is best man.
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>>139716815
yes, but no one is best
both girls are interesting characters
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>>139716554
Shinji didn't, even after going through much worse than Asuka.

Shinji is pretty good all things considered. Still not the epitome of manliness, but not that bad.
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>>139716734
Not to mention how she personally almost fucked up everything several times when taking initiative.
Like charging at the double angel, or leading the team at blackout NERV without knowing the way and getting mindbroken, losing control of eva and becoming a vegetable.
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>>139716734
>relying mostly on Yui for results
>not trashy at piloting
Hella fricking epic bias, toiletfag.
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>>139709055
She wanted his cock, but he was too beta to go for it.
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>>139716872
Rei is more interesting than Asuka though.

Even if there's people who disagree that she's more intersting, Rei for sure is best girl when we consider merits and character.
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>>139716120
She tried to kill herself when he died tho
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>>139716924
>Rei charges at Zeruel
>gets shotblocked and fucked
Ebin.
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>>139716907
All your comlpains about his manliness come from extreme shitfuck he goes through most watchers cant even relate ar imagine.
So they think he's a crying bitch.

But he still does his job all the time.
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>>139716935
that just means he utilized the evas most efficiently, which is pretty damn good. also, he fused his mind with yuis when they went bererk
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>>139716990
As if that was the only thing going on.
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>>139716935
>angry Asukafag

Calm your tits. Synching with your EVA is a skill. Asuka has a worse synch ratio than Shinji, period. That and Asuka sucks at piloting her EVA because like Rei says, she doesn't open her heart.

Shinji and Rei can do that, and so they get the benefits.
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>>139716308
well said
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>>139716963
Rei is hilariously dull and any nuance others see in her is highly overrated and coming from a Reifag anyway.
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>>139716997
Glorious nippon kamikaze spirit folded over a thousand times.
Something that makes her the best girl.

Also that might actually be something that motivated shinji and it's not like she had any better option.
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>>139717046
>sync is a skill
I'm not even going to waste my time on you.
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>>139716660
I'm not saying that Evangelion not being a straight mecha anime is what made it bad. I'm saying that even the mecha scenes, and even the Melancholy of Shinji Ikari scenes where all poor. The whole anime could be just him seated in a chair and talking to himself and critcizing whatever you think the anime criticized. And it could be good.
But Evangelion tried to be an Action and a Drama, and failed at both
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>>139716997
Got farther than Asuka, who got blown the fuck out.

Even when Rei's eva was damaged!
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>>139717014
Literally none of that is deliberate you dumbfuck. Zerking is solely up to the Mom gettingprotective.
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>>139717069
>>139717116
>same butthurt Asukafag

Go cry about it in your /c/ thread.
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>>139717150
No, actually. Rei got clowned on by Naoko.
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>>139709055
desperately needed vitamin D
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>>139716815
Shinji is best girl and best boy.
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>>139717202
>resorting to shitposting when proven wrong
>while saying Reifags only discuss
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>>139717116
>synch isn't a skill

Just because Asuka sucks at it, it doesn't count?

Having a stable sync and to be able to open yourself to the EVA is the CANONICAL way of gitting gud at Eva piloting. Rei does it, Shinji does it, Asucan't.

>>139717216
Yeah but Rei showed her. Rei showed her good.

her and that little girl of hers
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>>139717117
You wanted it to be a certain kind of action, drama, and because it wasn't you don't understand how other people do like it. I don't think everyone should, or even can like it, but don't insist it wasn't good. hell, I hated it the first time i watched it, but after thinking over and re-watching it, i saw how good it was.
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>>139717298
>hurf durf what is technical skill
>something dependant on my mom's soul is MY skill

And I'm saying if Rei was limited to one life she wouldn't even be a pilot.
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>>139717246
"Beautiful boy" indeed.
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>>139717117
If it was Shinji sitting in a chair it wouldn't be nearly as interesting, and without all the 2deep4u imagery it wouldn't have received as much attention as it does. Eva doesn't try to be two different genres in a straightforward way, it uses one to draw attention to the other.
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>>139717363
Same shit happened to me. I dropped it a few episodes in like 4 or 5 times.
Then I got hooked and loved it.
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>>139713056
he was in the robot when it happened though. when he was piloting they got the best results.
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>>139709055
Sexual Frustration.
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>>139717380
>And I'm saying if Rei was limited to one life she wouldn't even be a pilot.
Nither would Asuka if she got hit by a car.
Or if she wasn't saved by shinji on her first mission
Or if they weren't saved by Rei leading the way
Or if Asuka wasn't saved from lava
Or if they actually given Rei controls over unit 02 in dancing episode and Asuka comitted suicide.

Your arguments are pathetic and only show how assblasted you are
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>>139717380
dependent, not entirely dependent. It depends a whole lot on the pilot too.
>And I'm saying if Rei was limited to one life she
But she isn't. It's great.
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>>139717380
>if Rei wasn't Rei she wouldn't be better than Asuka!
yawn, asukafag.

It's not dependent on the mom soul. It's Asuka who sucks at interfacing with her EVA.

Watch Evangelion some time. Asuka is shit, even if she is your putrid waifu. Listen to what the characters say, listen to Rei, who is Asuka's superior when it comes to knowing about Eva-stuff.

It's said by all that opening one's heart to the EVA, and not putting up your AT-field, not introverting yourself and shutting others out is the reason for why Asuka can't get to pilot her EVA well.

That's why Shinji ends up being able to interface better with his EVA, why Rei is constantly able to hold a connection, and it's why Asuka nosedives into the trash where she belongs in the end, because SHE can't pilot her EVA any more.

So deal with it, Asukafag. Asuka is canonically shit and there's little you can do to deny it.

>but muh german heritage
>but muh college
>but muh she was supposed to be special

Thematic irony, she's shit despite thinking she's the best.
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>>139717557
But Asuka didn't lose a life and never got extra lives like Rei did. Respond to me one at a time too, shit's obnoxious.

>>139717566
Synch is entirely dependant on the mother child bond and thus no indicative of skill.
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>>139717499
yeah, that's probably it
thanks for a legitimate good answer, of course this thread went to shit, but at least it was okay for about a dozen posts before the ship, antiship, asuka, rei, antiasuka, antirei, and antieva fag showed up
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>>139717069
>born to be a blank slate
>brought up like a wife surrogate
>effectively made to be anti-social and repel others
>eventually experiences more of the world and learns to stand for her own feelings, sacrifices herself even after coming to grips with meaning in life and developing her own feelings

I'm no reifag and maybe a person can argue that the mode by which she develops is questionable, but her character growth is pretty obvious. The next rei is a bit less interesting since she comes into existence already disillusioned with the world around her as the prior rei set the framework for her to grow from.
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Holy fucking shit 3 Reifags launching on my dick all at once. I'm not going to repeat myself especially on a phone.
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>>139717676
Here's what makes it more interesting:

"The next Rei" is Rei herself. Don't treat them as two characters, the show doesn't and neither should you. It's not like that garbage-heap Rebuild is.

Same soul, different memories, BAM, existential thought experiment.
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>>139717676
all reis are the same soul in the original NGE, but she loses memories when she dies
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>>139717676
>I'm no Reifag
And my brother works for Khara.
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>>139717380
If Rei could die Asuka would never become a Pilot because Ramiil
If Rei could die Shinji wouldn't get in the fucking robot for the first time.

If Rei wasn't there Evangelion would never be a thing, she's a key character and holds the plot, she's Lilith for fucks sake.

But the funnest part is that Asuka could easily be replaced and Reiclones with shinji could handle all of that.
Asuka has never done something only she could do. She was always a tag along.
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>>139711580
lol more like /r9k/
go post that shit on /pol/, see what happens
also, reddit: the thread
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>>139717743
UNNGHHH WOW SO DEEEEPPP CLOOOONNESS AHAHAHA SO EXISTENTIAL EEEEEEE

I'm fucking dying. Pick up a philosophy book once in a while, if you can, so your head can explode and you won't taint these threads.
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>>139717676
Good points, but there's more to it than that. Rei gets to experience more of life and all that, but she's also longing to return to her real form, to die and return to Lilith.

Rei coming to terms with how Gendo is keeping her from doing that is part of the character.

So when Rei gets blown up, she comes back reincarnated into a new clone body, and now she's facing those issues as well.
Rei only gets more and more interesting

>>139717714
>posting on his phone cause he's banned
top
kek
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>>139717838
>I HATE THINGS THAT AREN'T SHALLOW
why are you here
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>>139717714
No one cares about your dick, fireposter.
Fuck off back to /y/
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>>139717894
Rei is shallow as fucking toiletwater you delusional aspie. And capitalize those sentences, Gaiatrash.
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>>139717894
Every post like that is an angry asuka fan who's mad that he's getting blown the fuck out
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>>139717676
No man you're really dumb and misguided.

First of all Rei was never made to be antisocial.
She just is.
Why? Because she can't enjoy life knowing she's a god who will pretty soon destroy the world and kill everyone.
However she has a pure and nice heart so she still can't resist caring about everyone else and help by any means necessary would it be an advice, a word of comfort or maybe covering someone with one of her disposable bodies.
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>>139717743
>>139717753

Rei recognizes herself that dhe isn't exactly the same person yesterday that she is today. Being of the same soul doesn't change that she feels different, hence the "I think I'm the third" or whatever quote. It's interesting to look at from the perspective that she both is and isn't the same person and that individual experience helps define what makes us "us".
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>>139717961
>Swarm him guys! Personal army go!
>le shitpost
Awesome. Just real free-range top quality discussion.
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>>139717894
Because this is /a/. Why do you think Asuka is so loved?
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>>139717973
>you're a rei fan!
>>139717965
>you're an asuka fan!

what's the verdict lads
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>>139718004
>"I think I'm the third"
Isn't that Rebuild only? I forget.
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>>139709055
Daddy issues.
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>>139717973
Can you stop replying to yourself and circlejerking at anytime in the near future?
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>>139717994
not that guy but

>IMPLYING

Putting Rei in a basement and depriving her of human dignity is bound to make her introverted and antisocial. She isn't "just" antisocial because it's cool, her life or lack thereof has made her numb, dull and cold.

There's still warmth beneath her exterior of course.

She doesn't know she's a god until the end.
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>>139718075
no, it's NGE only
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>>139718057
Reifags count anytime they circlejerk hard enough as a victory.
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>>139718130
Oh yeah, I'm dumb. It's not even possible in Rebuild.
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>>139718004
Well if you look at it like that, then sure. I'm not the same person as I was yesterday either, since I changed a little bit.

But I'm still me, and that's what Rei also says.

It's just that Rei gets more interesting after she dies, not less. It's sad and whatnot, but damn is it a real good character development.
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>>139718104
You just don't understand. Their little toilet is a virtuous knight and fragile lilac.
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300
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>>139710337
>>>/r9k/
>>>/pol/
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>>139718215
Only 200 more for this shit thread^)
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>>139718104
>Putting Rei in a basement and depriving her of human dignity is bound to make her introverted and antisocial.

Sounds extremely dumb to me.
Who ever said she was deprived of anything?
Who said she was denied anything?

They let her have her own appartment and attend to school with everyoone else, she had free time and shit.
I'm almost certain she chose such life because fuck life.
Her very existence was fake and unnatural, that's why she hates life.
Akagi said that "she's not very good with living" she doesn't even want to enjoy the life.

Or she thinks that she doesn't need it but later she finds out that she was horribly lonely all along.
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>>139718212
Shut up fireposter. He's right about rei being a virtuous little lilac. I just didn't agree that there wasn't a reason she was antisocial.
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>>139717363
>>139717416
Yeah, I don't know how people can like 60% of Eva, but don't get me wrong, I don't hate it that's why I said it's a 6/10, it's way above most things we see. I like the strong imagery. I like how they deconstructed the mechas and made it almost humanised. I liked the design and everything. I just think that half of the anime could be thrown out, like the scenes with jokes that doesn't fit in the overall. They could make and ending that made sense alone, that didn't need a movie. They could explore more the complexity of others characters not only Shinji. Hell in the end Asuka is literaly just something to Shinji fap to.
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>>139717994
Why? Because she can't enjoy life knowing she's a god who will pretty soon destroy the world and kill everyone.

Is she even actually aware of that from the start? Rei 1 seemed like a normal kid before she got murdered and even Rei can smile when she's with Gendo. It's not until after she accepts shinji and later dies that it seems she makes it obvious she's figured out what's going on.

>maybe covering someone with one of her disposable bodies.
This is bollocks. She's not just killing herself because she knows she'll come back. Her current existence held some meaning to her and that's why her sacrifice is supposed to have some meaning. Making it look like "oh, I'll just come back" seriously undermines the character arc.
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>>139718329
>lab abomination clone fucktoy cooped up in a grimy apartment
>Muh no reason
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>>139718315
>Who ever said she was deprived of anything?
>Who said she was denied anything?

The anime did. Killing her, letting her live in a black room alone at NERV, and then telling her she can be replaced at their whim is depriving Rei of any human dignity.

Even letting her live alone without any parents is severe child neglect.

You definitely have some points that

>Her very existence was fake and unnatural, that's why she hates life.
>Akagi said that "she's not very good with living" she doesn't even want to enjoy the life.

but it's not that she hates life. She really just doesn't know how to live properly and socially because of the prior neglect.

That's why being forced to get together with the other children changes her. I think she chose to stay alone, but she chose to stay alone due to prior influence as well. Just like the future influence changes her.
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>>139718238
ironic, we hate 3DPD women the most on this board
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>>139718442
>>lab abomination clone fucktoy cooped up in a grimy apartment
Scratch the fucktoy bit, and yep there's a big part of Rei's reason to be antisocial.
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>>139717887
the picture is too big
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>>139718435
>Rei 1 seemed like a normal kid
No she didn't.

She has that same look, that look Rei II and III has, the one where she is entirely expressionless.
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>>139718435
If you knew you're going to die tomorrow what would you do?
And even if you chose to have fun would you actually enjoy it?
>This is bollocks. She's not just killing herself because she knows she'll come back.
She literally is.
She keeps saaying "Don't worry, I can be replaced" literally. She knows it's okay for her to die and she doesn't really love her life.
More so. She said she was actually waiting for the day she'll be free.
She hated life and waited for appocallipse to be free.
>Her current existence held some meaning to her
Not before she became dear and lovely friends with shinji.
She gradually starts getting into that life thing the more she gets along with shinji and others.

And as she said she used to be praying every day for when she finally is free from this life, but later she grew to fear it. She started fearing death after she got close with Shinji.
And i don't mean small death with respawn, she was thinking about complete end of her human existence.

And yes, that implies that she knew what she is all along.
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I want a futa Rei
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Rei>dumb bully bitch

Bye.
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Fuck this thread
you used to be able to delete your comments and threads, i don't know why they would change that
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>>139718209
It explores a rather pedestrian theme (Who am I and what made me that way) through a rather supernatural one (knowing more about the world while having no recollection of how that happened). Rei dying and coming to realize more about her role in the world and in the plans of others is mixed with her inability to recall the specific circumstances that led to these realizations as well as the specific circumstances surrounding her sacrifice and the boy who has been waiting for her to "recover." It's a little more nuanced than waking up in the morning but it explores the same underlying concepts making it accessible to audiences even though it's actually rather alien in its specifics.

>>139718315
I don't know how you can be a reifag while simultaneously misunderstanding and shitting on her character. She was capable of smiling because she could feel, but she was not raised to get along well with others and it probably didn't help she was murdered and knows human cruelty deep down.

>>139718390
>using deconstruct without knowing what it means
opinion ignored.
>They could explore more the complexity of others characters not only Shinji
did you even watch the show? Including Rei and Asuka a whole host of characters are given a lot of characterization.
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>>139718932
Wrong faggot. Good riddance.
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>>139718936
Shitposting=traffic=money
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why can't she be like this?
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>>139718980
>defending bullying cunts
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>>139718471
>letting her live in a black room alone at NERV
Gendo was her parent.
But it just happens that he lives in NERV, so does she.
>and then telling her she can be replaced at their whim is depriving Rei
She could have learned it from when she respawned or from basicly learning what she really is.
Nobody was treatig her like a dog or degrading her because they hate her.
Gendo gave her his best, his best is not that good though, but at least he tried.
Besides any teenager would love to live on his/her own with a free apartment to have parties at.

They gave her a room, let her go to school, If she wanted to have some wallpapers on thos concrete walls she would, she must have chose this.

>but it's not that she hates life. She really just doesn't know how to live properly and socially because of the prior neglect.
She thinks she hates this life.
She's teling herself that she hates this life.
A little too late she comes to realize that she's gonna miss it all.

There's a lot more to her than meets the eye.
It's not like they made her like that. But yes, if she grew up happily she would be running with a toast.
But nobody was purposely making her life worse. They weren't torturing her.
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>>139719008
holy shit dimonds
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>>139718980
I'll take the shy girl who is also smart and kind if you approach her over the dumb bitch who just wants to be impregnated by someone who resembles his dad. If Shinji was an alpha male he would totally be banging that pussy, but he got stuck with the slut.

Rei is best girl.
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>>139718788
It's been like half a decade since I've seen anything Eva so maybe you're right, but I was under the impression that the point of her arc was that with her sacrifice she finally did care for her current existence unlike in the beginning of the series where she's going to pilot while injured. And not in the "I'm lillith so I'm going to end the world and stop being human" sort of way. I was under the impression she didn't quite know what she was or what her role was at first. Though under that supposition I can't confirm when she figured it out.
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>>139714533
That mug
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>>139719023
>totally leaving guys
Rei a toilet.
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>>139719200
Oversimplification and downright lies. Sasua Reishitter.
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>>139716076
It's actually made by a fan of the show.
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>>139719310
Who are you quoting? I'm not even that person.
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>>139718938
>Not giving any examples
>Not giving any argument
Yeah, dude, ignored~
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>>139718315
That pic is noise
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyIpijrLlcM
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>>139719658
That's genuinely funny.
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>>139718938
>She was capable of smiling because she could feel,
I never said she couldn't feel.
She could feel everything.
But I believe she was withdrawn from the life itself because she knew her life is fake and will be short.
She kept telling herself that she doesn't need friends, she doesn't want fun, and so on even if she actually wanted to.
Why?
Because it would hurt a lot getting attached to this world and losing it.

She was overburdened by her own unique existence to have fun.
>who am i?
>what am I?
And all above bullshit was pretty heave so she really couldn't knock it off and have fun.
She was too busy with her existence.
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>>139719802
It gets me every time. Surprised no one else linked it.
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>>139715
Shinji wasn't fully autistic though
I'm pretty sure he had Bordeline Personality Dissorder
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>>139718938
>It explores a rather pedestrian theme (Who am I and what made me that way) through a rather supernatural one (knowing more about the world while having no recollection of how that happened).

Pedestrian? Son, it's the problem philosophers and intellectuals, even scientists nowadays argue is the only problem left that is "hard". We can calculate everything else, but there is a fundamental difficulty in understanding or explaining what we are.

>Rei dying and coming to realize more about her role in the world and in the plans of others is mixed with her inability to recall the specific circumstances that led to these realizations as well as the specific circumstances surrounding her sacrifice and the boy who has been waiting for her to "recover." It's a little more nuanced than waking up in the morning but it explores the same underlying concepts making it accessible to audiences even though it's actually rather alien in its specifics.

Which is the genius of it, it's a really tough concept to handle in itself, and through Rei we can make it accessible.

What my main point was, is that Rei II and Rei III are not different characters, and discussing them as they were two people instead of one is grossly undermining the character.
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>>139716143
It's nice.
I like it
But the added femininity takes away from her personality and makes her look a bitchy zero personality tsundere.
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>>139719257
I believe at first she's like
>A am Lilith I will destroy the world, don't worry i'm immortal
But then she really can't bottle up her feelings anymore and she really likes Shinji, and everyone and her memories.
That's why she's crying when she's exploding herself.
her life gained meaning to her.
Maybe she was antisocial trying to escape those feels, maybe she just didn't know they existed or didn't care.
But first she didnt care about life,
Then she started caring.

But it's nothing like NERV guys made her antisocial just because EVIL and shit.
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>>139719127
>Gendo was her parent.
Gendo is known as the worst parent ever. He only started taking care of Rei later in her life, when she was a few years.

>But it just happens that he lives in NERV, so does she.
We don't know where Gendo lives. He certainly doesn't live down in the basement.

>She could have learned it from when she respawned or from basicly learning what she really is.

Well, she didn't. There's nothing in the series that indicates that she does, and if she knew everything, she wouldn't be so obsessed with finding out what she was.

>Nobody was treatig her like a dog or degrading her because they hate her.
Naoko choking her was mean. Putting her in the basement of NERV, in that dungeon is degrading her. It's child abuse.

>Gendo gave her his best, his best is not that good though, but at least he tried.
His best or his worst, Gendo's actions still influenced Rei negatively. He doesn't know how to live either, and that rubbed off on Rei.

>Besides any teenager would love to live on his/her own with a free apartment to have parties at.
They wouldn't. Only a teenager who has lived with others, a teenager that has lived alone his or hers whole life would be lonely and sad.
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>>139720046
I would also buy schizophrenic.
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>>139715546
it honestly could have been a sphere
which would have been much cooler Unit 01 breaking 03's is 01's way of saying I'm the alpha and I'm gonna destroy your penis to prove it
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>>139720372
But anon, Rei doesn't know that she's Lilith at all. She only finds that out later.

The NERV guys are responsible for Rei's asocial behavior, because they mistreated her and neglected her. That scientist woman even choked her to prove a point, that she was replaceable.

It meant that Rei became isolated from others, like an anime frankenstein without the misfigured face.
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>>139720519
Rei the first said it straight in 25, until the end she was only aware of Lilith as a black box at the bottom of her brain that scared the shit out of her. A lot of her isolation was self-imposed, she went to school, she chose to ignore everyone there.
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>>139720411
>Gendo is known as the worst parent ever. He only started taking care of Rei later in her life, when she was a few years
He created her like this.
She probably spawned when she already was equivalent of a 4yo old or something.
And yes, he was the only and the best parent she had.
>. He certainly doesn't live down in the basement.
I don't think he leaves NERV for walks and fun must be working 23 hours a day.
i bet he either sleeps in his cabinet or has a room with a bed in NERV.
> There's nothing in the series that indicates that she does,
She knows she can respawn
She knows She's "Something created by men"
She knows the day will come when she will stop being herself.
She really has some ideas. She does know she's special .
>Naoko choking her was mean.
Happens to everyone sometimes .
>Putting her in the basement of NERV, in that dungeon is degrading her. It's child abuse.
I suppose basements is where you make clones.
She had no one else, and Gendo was living on his work spending as much time with her as he possibly could.
I really think he loved his little daughter,
>His best or his worst, Gendo's actions still influenced Rei negatively.
He's the best parent she has. He created her and did everything he could for her.
He could little though.

But don't be so black and white.
Tough life made Rei like that.
it was not an evil masterplan to make her lonely and antisocial, I bet she was attending to school excatly to try and socialise her.
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>>139720848
Yes, this is what I'm also saying. Rei isolates herself because she feels her existence isn't on par with everyone elses. She's got a limited lease on life. She doesn't need friends, she thnks. It doesn't matter if she dies or lives her life to the fullest.

She is like this because of what NERV did to her. They showed her something that scarred her, they showed her that they could kill her and revive her as they pleased.

>>139720924
>He created her like this.
We don't know that, and it's unlikely.
>And yes, he was the only and the best parent she had.
Doesn't make him good. He's unironically known as the worst parent in anime, save for the FMA guy.

>I don't think
Stop that. We don't know where Gendo lives, we don't know anything about the guy.

>She really has some ideas. She does know she's special .
Yes, but not in a good way. She thinks it makes her inferior somehow.

>Happens to everyone sometimes .
c'mon. Choking is not normal.

>Tough life made Rei like that.

>it was not an evil masterplan to make her lonely and antisocial,
It may not have been their intention, but it's what they did. They are people and they know what they are doing is mistreatment.

Even gendo knows he does bad things, that he abandoned Shinji and didn't deserve Rei's loyalty. Which is why he accepts his punishment.
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>>139720848
>A lot of her isolation was self-imposed, she went to school, she chose to ignore everyone there.

Exactly my point.
The parenting could indded be better, but i'm really sure her isolation was her own choise and her own issue because she had some eally heavy shit going on in her little lovely head.

She just could go on and socialize in school , everybody was trying to be her friend, it didn't fly though. And gendo has nothing to do with that.

She could live a very normal proper life, she jist didn't.
And I don't think that gendo forbidden her to buy wallpapers and turning her room into a lovely place to live .
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>>139721054
Enjoy the ban you butthurt faggot.
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>>139715839
>Compared to Shinji or Rei, she's basically satan.

Nah, Satan works for a living
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>>139721133
Being on point isn't against the rules.
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>>139721111
But you're just wrong anon.

Rei failed to normalize and socialize precisely because of Gendo's horrid parenting, and NERV's clear child abuse.

Rei has some heavy shit going on in her head, and it's to her credit that she is able to improve herself over the course of the series. But Rei has heavy shit in her head because Gendo is an asshole, and NERV more or less imprinted into her psyche that she was replaceable and worthless. That's traumatic.

She couldn't "just" live a normal and proper life without getting over her issues and understanding herself. That takes time, but Rei goes in the right direction at least.

>>139721233
>replying to the fireposter
Notice how he's posting with a new IP.
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>>139721233
But chimping out like a little retard is, even if you were correct.
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>>139716338

Israfael, Magma Diver, Arael were all Asuka's fuckups due to her arrogance. She is (not) competent. In the slightest.
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>>139721098
>we don't know anything about the guy.
We know everything.
He's a crazy zealot working every day and every night to revive Yui. He didn't abandon Shinji "because fuck you" he did it so he could make a giant robot for him. Probaly better than making Shin live in same basement with Rei.
>She thinks it makes her inferior somehow.
Inferior?
No!
It makes her a space alien.
And she really has no idea how to live and what for. She's confused about her very existence, but i don't thnk she has any complexes about it.
It's not "hey Rei chan your cute, lets be friends" "No we can't be, i'm an alien, you should stay away from me" more like "Sorry but i'm too busy figuring out phylosofical problems of my existence atm"

>knows he does bad things,
Except that he saved the worls to begin with. Oh but he did it to hijack it for his own goals though. There's no good and bad people in EVA, just people. He's anot a villain, neither a hero.
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>>139716554

You can legally join the real world military at age 17, and you can enlist at 16 if your ship date is after your birthday. Children can choose to enter an organization founded on violence only TWO years older than these characters are depicted as. Shut up.
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>>139721111
It makes it sort of odd that Shinji manages to connect with Rei when other students had to have tried. Easy to picture years of her being approached and treating everybody exactly like she did Asuka.
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>>139721621
It might have something to do with how Asuka approached her.
>hey you be my friend because why not
Shinji did show her genuine care about her.

Something she doesn't see every day.
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>>139721830
Extraordinary circumstance has to help. Not everybody would get the opportunity to prioritize her life over their safety and then also look like the Commander.
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>>139721504
>We know everything.
Not where he lives, which was the thing we were talking about.

>He didn't abandon Shinji "because fuck you" he did it so he could make a giant robot for him. Probaly better than making Shin live in same basement with Rei.
No damnit, he abandoned Shinji because he was weak. Shinji wasn't even intended to pilot the thing the way he saw it.

>Inferior?
>No!
>It makes her a space alien.
Yeah, it's easy for us to say that. But not so much for Rei. She didn't watch NGE or have a whole wiki page dedicated to herself. She had to work it out from more or less no clues at all, plus everyone was treating her like disposable garbage at NERV.

>Except that he saved the worls to begin with.
He was part of destroying it in the first place. He was part of the GEHIRN/NERV team that started 2nd Impact. He ran away the day before, of course, so he wouldn't be killed.

But Gendo has the blood of approximately 3.5 billion people on his hands, and he's planning to go for 3.5 billion more.

>Oh but he did it to hijack it for his own goals though. There's no good and bad people in EVA, just people. He's anot a villain, neither a hero.

He's a villain.
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>>139721621
Shinji doesn't instantly connect with Rei. He also gets the cold shoulder to begin with, and they don't get off nicely to begin with.

Shinji is jealous of Rei's conversations with his father, and Rei doesn't respect Shinji's attitude towards his father.
Barging into her room certainly didn't help either.

Shinji only breaks the barrier with Rei once he talks to her and shows genuine interest, and then shows that he genuinely cares when he opens up her entry plug and even sheds a few tears for her sake.

That reminded her of the time Gendo did it, and she's able to open up.
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>>139721980
>But Gendo has the blood of approximately 3.5 billion people on his hands, and he's planning to go for 3.5 billion more.
It was Yui's plan.
Actually Yui was a super genius masterplan and Gendo was trying to do something but not really.
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>>139722149
>Yui's plan
Gendo was a part of that plan, and while Yui is intelligent, the whole "secret mastermind" meme needs to die.
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>>139713056
Nah, not really. He did the job just fine even though he whined all the time (which he deserved, really). Meanwhile Asuka often chimped out, and Rei was simply uninspiring.
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>>139721391

Decisively refuting asukafag whining is 'chimping out'.

Man, you babies have gotten weak
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>>139716540
Like I'm watching Utena.
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>>139713056
>asukafag shitting on shinji because shinji got rrekt
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>>139722185
nice
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>>139722349
>muh capslock rage isn't me chimping out
Erin.
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>>139722614

Unable to refute statements, resorts to adhominems and begging the site to ban

standard asukafag behaivor
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>>139722109
They kind of do. It's barely there and Rei comes off as sort of territorial and sizing Shinji up, but she was paying attention.
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>>139722701
>babysit me
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>>139709055
This explains it and why Shinji said "Because I'm just like you?"
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>>139723420
>Shinji seems to fully undestand Asuka
Isn't he Asuka's mind Shinji?
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>>139723420
Asuka is a borderline bitch, another reason why Rei is best girl.
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>>139723700
Misato is best girl
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>>139723700
Rei is Asuka's chew toy.
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>>139723939
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>>139723939
Rei would bully Asuka if she wanted, Asuka is a bitch with out her biologic mech.
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>>139724070
>>139724076
Rei gets broken quite nicely
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>hurr Asuka has a personality therefore she is a BITCH

found the cuckman
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>>139724240
Lets just say it how it is, Asuka is female Donte.
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>>139724322
Rei is a male toilet
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>>139724076
Rei would let herself be suplexed by Asuka if ordered to, honestly.
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Rei is such a rusty, rusty toilet

Asuka is the best character ever created
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>>139724240
except her having a personality has nothing to do with not liking her. the real problem is that her personality is shit. Misato has more personality than Asuka and she's better because she's not a twat. I like Asuka a lot cause I can understand why she's such a bitch, but you can't deny that she is, in fact, a bitch to everyone.
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I really want to see a ripped Asuka wrestling and crushing Rei with all her might now.
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>>139724505
>her personality is shit

Because you project Rei's personality into her
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>Rei doesn't look like a toilet u guys!!! Asuka is da toilet!!!!!!

topkek
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>>139716502
>changing her hairstyle

Smooth move

Alas, she still looks like a toilet
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>>13972477
Too iconic of a toilet.
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>>139724904
The Justin Bieber of toilets
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>>139724470
>>139724706
>>139724976
would rather date the toilet than the piece of shit inside it
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asuka a shit
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>>139725056
Why don't you like Rei's true self anon?
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>>139725121
>asuka a rei

wut
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>>139709055
Asuka hates herself and sees the things she hates most about herself in Shinji.

But she also has a crush on him for a whole lotta complicated reasons, and that complication just makes her hate Shinji and herself even more.
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>>139725124
>true form
>supreme being
>Lillith incarnate
>not liking her
sure thing anon
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>DUDE WHAT ARE EMOTIONS LMAO

Rei is such a shit character.
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>>139725251
If you think the supreme being is shit, you need a brain hospital
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>>139725251
See>>139724579
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She needs to be the best, but he was naturally talented. I have a sister who's the same way.
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>>139716143
>Alternate hairstyles, go.
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he represented the weakness she hated about herself.

he also took her praise.
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>>139725528
Rei looks better with Asuka's hair than Asuka does
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>this triggers the toiletsexual
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>>139716243
>The anime don't make you care about the characters
Hello Dahmer
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>>139725587
Real Rei looks like a toilet (and by extension shit)
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>>139725587
Hush now
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>there are people who like Asuka

masochists, all of you. enjoy the living breathing personality disorder.
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>asuka fans in this thread

Holy hell, you should all be lobotomized
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>>139725913
Evangelion Fates?
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>>139711578
Kabal, go to bread
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>>139729481
>>139727541
Nice samefag
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>>139709055
Because she loved him. They loved each other really. It wasn't hate, it was just that they saw the flaws in each other that they hated about themselves. The weakness deep down they tried to fight through apathy or bravado. I think the final scene where he is choking her and she calls him disgusting is beautiful because to me it signifies their relationship, their hat for each other but the deep rooted need they have for each other.
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>>139729923
Neither of them loved eachother, EoE tells you that.
And there is nothing about Asuka that Shinji sees himself in, that's fanwank.
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>>139730175
He sees a broken girl with no confidence. They have the same issue they just treat it differently
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>Reifags discuss and raise thread quality
>Asukafags lower it and blatantly shitpost

Remove Asukafags.
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>>139730175
This is true, Asuka sees her worst traits in Shinji, but Shinji doesn't feel the same way. I think he does like Asuka's bravado, fake as it may be, as well as simply being sexually attracted to her.

But that anon was right about them needing each other, even if he didn't get the why part exactly correct.
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>>139730218
>He sees a broken girl with no confidence
He never sees that. He's convinced Asuka is the opposite because of her facade.
And he especially never sees anything of himself in her either, he never understands her.
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>>139730420
He's seen her break down.
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>>139730444
When?
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Hey fellas thinking of giving this a try, should i watch the remake version or go original or read the manga?
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>>139709055
From her point of view, he's a threat to her reason for living, which is being the best Eva pilot. Also, she's tsundere for him and wants him to man-up, so that's bound to cause some frustration.
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>>139730487
Maybe not. It's hard to believe she hasn't but I can't remember off hand.
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>>139730420
Pretty sure he understand her after instrumentality.
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>>139730600
If he did he wouldn't have choked her with the intent to kill
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>>139716338
>just a boy
Well... he is only 15.
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>>139730643
Wasn't an intent to kill tho? It was him validating his existence.
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>>139730701
Anno confirmed it was an intent to kill.
The original line of Asuka was not "how disgusting", but "i'll never be killed by someone like you!"
Meaning yes, Shinji was actually genuinely trying to kill her.
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>>139717380
If Rei was limited to one life, would she even exist as Rei in the first place?
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>>139730725
I don't think so. Why would he want to kill her after he went berserk at her death 2 episodes earlier?
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>>139730786
You don't have to think so, but the canon proves so.
He went beserk because he saw some disturbing shit, an eva unit torn to pieces.
He already knew Asuka was dead before seeing the corpse you know, and he didn't react when he knew then.
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>>139725056
Holy fuck! That is a pretty good comeback, tbqh.
Even though Asuka is not a shit and you're only saying that to hurt her feelings.
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>>139730848
How so? because a cliche line used in circumstances to be condescending was cut for the word 'disgusting'?
It's obvious he was just losing his mind and didn't want to kill her, just as it was obvious she wasn't really upset with Shinji at the end, just keeping up with her bravado. The end should signify more than anything that they didn't change as much as they thought.
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>>139709055
Because Shinji was a little bitch. If Shinji had a half a testicle, he would have put her in her place a long time ago.
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>>139730945
>It's obvious he was just losing his mind and didn't want to kill her, just as it was obvious she wasn't really upset with Shinji at the end, just keeping up with her bravado
It's not obvious, nor so much as implied. That's just you fanwanking.
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>>139731174
You assuming he meant to kill her is fucking fanwanking He was literally freaking out at her death and then all of sudden starts trying to kill her? Refute with facts, not the same exact comment restructured you big bitch. Have some kissing moms
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>>139731256
>puts his hands on