Have you ever got something genuine in your life?
If so, how can you be so sure about that?
Also, Oregairu thread
>tfw the only genuine thing you'll get is disappointment
My first welfare check was genuine
>tfw still cant find a fucking job at 27
So do you think her heart is going to get ripped out, torn to shreds, and then pissed on in vol 12? Or will it just be tossed onto the floor and have a big piece of shit dropped on it?
Her heart won't break fampai. The only way her heart could break at this point is if 8man rejected her and/or gets with Yukino. Any future where she is by his side will fill her with joy.
Love triangles never get resolved in anime/LNs. Why do people think that one will get resolved this time? The author is not going to risk having 8man break either YY's heart. The only way he will settle anything is if he has two different ends, one for both.
And that's it from the glorious Ponpon.
Yui never showed up to the wedding.
Is the inevitable end of this story genuine? I'd say it is.
The only genuine thing in my life is my analysis of things. Apathy and depression aren't genuine enough for me as they can change from day to day or mood to mood, but my analysis of things remain constant factor.
genuinely pissed at his wrong choices over wrong choices. it was wrong for him to step away from his slice of heaven (S1E3), he was wrong to be charmed to Yukinoshita (S1E9), he was wrong to listen to sensei about the school festival (S1E12), he was wrong to listen to Hayato's politically correct ways of doing things (S1E12), he was wrong to listen to Yui's wails while crying (S2E2), he was wrong to listen to Yukino's "guilt shaming (S2E7), he was wrong to ask genuine to a high school girl (S2E8).
But despite this wrongs, his slice of heaven is open to all who have sinned and are lost from the 3dpd world below. One must only repent, turn back from the ways of 3dpd and seek the slice of heaven and he shall find comfort.
>he was wrong to listen to Yui's wails while crying (S2E2)
Good thing he didn't really do that.
For all her tears, they were meaningless to him. He ignored them all and was all set to do the same sort of thing again in the StuCo election. It was Yukino and Sensei who finally got through to him and made him change.
Well ungrateful faggot can just go die. I kill president to be in his place, and yet there he was, crying like a bitch because WAH WAH THERE'S ALL GIRLS CLOSED TO ME BUT I WANT THEM GENUINE
Fucking ungrateful fucks.
Posted the wrong one. Here, let me help
I spent my junior high like 8man, got lectured by teachers and I talked back to them in a fedora manner.
Learned things the hard way in highschool and junior college days. Luckily I was able to quickly recover and maintained friendships.
Lectured my edgy kouhais in highschool for behaving like 8man when I was in my final uni days and all I got was "Fuck you, you don't understand"s and similar fedora retorts that I uttered in my junior high days.
I had a Orimoto. Even had curly sex hair and laughed at my edgelord ways too
Superior romantic school roof encounter right here
Hiki is fucked up, he spent the night before without sleeping because he was thinking what to say to the girls only to end up crying.
He lost all the respect i had for him in a single episode.
The girl he admired stopped smiling, thought he was a piece of shit, and told him to fuck off.
It was okay for him to cry.
The entire world is against Yui. Can she still win?
That could have played in two ways, the way you described and that happened in the end or hiki going the full edgelord route.
Honestly, i would have loved to see hiki flipping his shit there, go solo again and have another girl put him on the right track (preferably Saki). Like a sort of reset, but thats just me i guess.
No, I actually had male friends who were
GENUINE.But I did have that one girl that shut me down in MS who I was sort of friends with later in HS. If anything when I watched the first season when I was still in HS it made me realize how much of a faggot I was being having seen what my jackassery looked like from an outside perspective.
In terms interaction with girls, I was partly like 8man (or maybe like Sensei/Haruno?)
There was a time in high school when I worked out enough that popular girls actually tried flirting with me and even tried to join me during group work (even wanting to pair up with me during dance classes). This is even weirder because said girls didn't even hang around my circle of friends but would still try to catch my attention by constantly calling out to me. I never returned their advances other than the occasional greeting because it just didn't feel
The worst part is that I closed myself off so much that I never really got to enjoy my youth as much as I would have wanted to in retrospect.
Teach trying to help him again but using another method, sign me in. More drama until he accepts help from her again. I would have loved every another development than the one we have now.
>Only one girl
I think you're forgetting someone
Middle school Hachiman had the best taste.
I dont like how it turned out bro, just that. I understand why and how it came to this but i still dont like the route it took. At this point i only want 8man to end alone and find a girl in college or something.
It's easy to be best girl when half the cast is made up of you
I didn't get this "genuine" crap going on in this anime. If someone is happy then they're happy. If they're not then they're not. How the hell does he know when people are being "genuine" or when situations are "genuine"?
The hell does he even mean by "genuine"?
It's been a while so I may re-watch it but, at the moment, it doesn't make sense.
>At this point i only want 8man to end alone
Well are they happy or are they just telling themselves they are? Do they really like they people they're in relationships with or are they just settling to not be alone?
That be the genuine.
Why would 8man shop such a sick image? Does he get off from such a twisted fantasy?
Ask any random person if they're a happy person. Who's saying no?
It's the easiest thing in the world to convince someone that they're happy, or, at the very least that it's weird not to be satisfied with your life. And we're all afraid of losing what we have if we try something different.
I know I'm not happy even when I usually say I'm happy.
Give me enough money to pursue my dreams and become financially stable. Only then can I remotely feel like I'm truly happy.
>You don't even understand any of the development in the series so shut the fuck up.
As far as 8man getting his head out of his ass and grow out of being socially awkward goes, it's not even all that relevant who he ends up with. He could end up with Yui's mother for all it's worth. Not that this would happen, it just doesn't matter all that much regardless.
8man picking someone (or no one I guess) is more important for Yukino's and Yui's arcs than it is his own really.
>8man picking someone (or no one I guess) is more important for Yukino's and Yui's arcs than it is his own really.
While not as important to him it is actually relevant to how his character would end.
Picking Yui to 8man would be the logical choice, he knows she's liked him for a long time and she's been kind to him the entire time plus finally accepting that he can be loved by a nice girl.
Picking Yukino to 8man would be an illogical choice as he believes she is way out of his league and would never look at him twice, however 8man choosing to confess to Yukino would be him finally telling the monster of logic to fuck off and finally acting upon his feelings instead of whatever nonsense he makes up in his head.
What the neck do you mean? Yukino has been sending him enough signals that almost everyone knows what she feels for him. He doesn't need to ask from the way I see it when it comes to Yukino.
To the anon who provided sensei's hair model to me. Thank you for those sleepless nights.
Naw man, if she even meant any of what her proposal meant she is not a nice girl.
I guess it will just be 8man makes one choice in ANOTHER and a genuine choice in the main series.
When I was in middle school there was this bully that wouldn't leave me alone, calling me chink (I'm Asian) and shoving/socking me around for fun. At least I had my best friend, who always had my back, until one day I overheard him talking to another friend about how annoying and pathetic and fat I was (I was a bit chubby back then).
I was absolutely crushed (I didn't have very many friends) and never looked at him in the eye again (he probably sensed that I found out because he sort of drifted away). I sort of went to the back of the school and cried there alone, being a soft crybaby back then, when the last person I wanted to see happened to come by - the bully.
"Hey chink, what are you doing back here?" he says. "Why you crying?" He started to laugh but then stopped and just stood there for a bit. I was afraid of looking up so I sat there with my head buried in my arms. Finally he said "don't be sad, man" and left. There was something in his voice that hurt me more than all the punching and shoving - pity and a little bit of concern. To be pitied by your enemy. I was a bit touched and humiliated at the same time.
The bully sort of left me alone after that day and I missed his negative presence. At least he had been genuine unlike the cunt "friend". So that's one genuine thing I had in middle school.
Did you ever do anything for the guy that had your back? Friends give and take. I mean, even I would understand why he would be annoyed. But I bet he didn´t care too much, or else he wouldn´t still stick with you.
I remember that in high school i didnt have a single friend, my only friends were from the soccer club i went for 10 years. I dont even hang out with them anymore after i stopped playing soccer. I made friends a few years back while going to locals to play fighting games and all i can say is that fighting game bros are genuine bros that dont care about superficial shit.
Well that's what we're going to get in the actual ending.
>Deceptive two faced whore that emotionally manipulates people.
Don't all the main characters in this series do this?
Poor Yumiko, having the man of her dreams hook up with that creepy guy.
As a Yuiufag I would be fine with this. I would taunt Yukinofags forever because Yui will have had a successful romance with 8man but Yukino and 8man's romance will probably not end happily. It would mean that Yui was the only actual winner.
Bittersweet could just mean that Yui goes her own way and the Service Club dissolves, which would be a sad thing unless you are a complete Yukinofag who cares about nothing but the one girl you like.
But you are right in that it's really hard to envision a truly happy Yukino end. It's not impossible, but there are a lot of variables and red flags regarding her that you don't have for Yui. The best I think we'd get in a Yukino end is something ambiguous. Maybe it will work out, maybe it won't. Up to the reader to guess.
> not Ebina x 8man
That isn't my point. I am not making fun of Yukino or 8man nor am I saying that it isn't the true end, just HachiYuki shippers who have to deal with their ship not working out in canon.
>Bittersweet could just mean that Yui goes her own way and the Service Club dissolves,
That would be sad and hurt but you have to admit that its head has been on the block for a while and 8man's choice between the two swings the headman's axe down. It would be a shock to no one.
>which would be a sad thing unless you are a complete Yukinofag who cares about nothing but the one girl you like.
Most Yukinofags fit this category. They literally get off on Yui's pain and seem only to care about their ship more than the story or characters.
> The best I think we'd get in a Yukino end is something ambiguous.
Not even that. The best I can see is that they are together but 8man thinks about future problems but thinks he/she will deal with them when they come.
I don't think we are getting a prologue that ties up loose ends like so many people think.
>Not wanting Sagami to hate fuck 8man with the force of all the stars in the sky.
>HachiYuki shippers who have to deal with their ship not working out in canon.
That wouldn't matter because it would still mean that it's the only ship that was ever canon.
WW still wrote ANOTHER. It is just as valid as the main series.
There are two universes. Yui wins in one and Yukino gets the other. Yui's relationship is successful with 8man, proving she is the one. Yukino's relationship with 8man is unsuccessful, proving that their relationship was transient.
> I don't think we are getting an epilogue that ties up loose ends like so many people think.
I agree. There's no way not to have ambiguity in a Yukino end. As you say the future potential problems will be there and won't ever get wrapped up.
Would we ever find out whether Yukino's mom and dad support such a match? Is Hachiman on a trajectory that will make him successful enough to be worthy in any realistic sense of marrying someone of Yukino's caliber? Will they be able to stay close to each other in college? That one would probably get addressed at least.
Christmas cake teachers are meant to be line loving genuine relationships with their students, holding their hands, kissing them and bearing their many children before finally growing old and happy with them
It will only matter if WW writes additional material that references the "canonical" ending.
He has supposedly talked about writing a story about Hayama before. But I suspect if he does write it he will try to leave the choice of universe ambiguous.
>WW still wrote ANOTHER. It is just as valid as the main series.
Another is a special story, basically while the main story is an "Unexpected Romcom" ANOTHER is the "Expected Romcom"
>Yui's relationship is successful with 8man, proving she is the one. Yukino's relationship with 8man is unsuccessful, proving that their relationship was transient.
And even still the one that was truly chosen wasn't Yui.
Yukino thinks that relationships can be maintained after high school and don't reset. 8man does and we know his track record, the only thing I think he is spot on about is being alone in the end.
I have a terrible feeling that if Yui fucks off due to the love triangle not going her way that would be the last we would see of her in the series. I think that if he rejects any girl there won't be a relationship in there for him with the girl he doesn't choose.
> the only thing I think he is spot on about is being alone in the end
I don't think he'll be alone. He will have ties to people that won't go away. And I feel pretty sure that at least one of Yui/Yukino will be one of those. But it might not be a romantic bond in the end.
>When the genuine is taken from her
>He will have ties to people that won't go away.
Yui will be out of his life the same day he rejects her or picks Yukino. Sensei is a fucking teacher, yeah she cares and will help him in a way but that isn't much more than being alone. He could give a fuck about Saki, Iroha, Chuuni, and even Saika. Yukino is just in his life now and unless she wants to change her life trajectory she will only be in his life briefly.
>But it might not be a romantic bond in the end.
Why wouldn't it? Both Yui and Yukino seem to like him that way and both seem to be willing to take the next step with him. He would have to reject the one who stays with him and have her be 100% okay with it.
When Pan-san is taken from her*
With Yui I agree. With Yukino it's not quite so certain, even though it's certain at this point she has feelings for him. Her future is on a path that may not coincide with Hachiman's. For all we know she is going to Yale or something for college and he won't realistically be able to come along.
>when she takes her genuine back
Yui is not interested in 8man romantically, she is just a nice girl who inadvertently gives off signals to overly optimistic guys. She just feels guilty about the dog thing and is giving him affection out of pity.
Yukino is not interested in 8man romantically. She is way out of his league in everything and would never look at him that way. I can't see her having a romance with anyone.
If Yukino is in fucking Connecticut then 8man is alone regardless of what happens between them until then. You are alone if the person your supposedly with is on the other side of the planet.
In what scenario is either YY going to be his friend and stay near him but not have it be romantic?
But they could stay in touch, albeit as platonic friends even if they go apart.
To this point, Yukino and Hachiman still haven't exchanged contact info. That suggests it is being saved for a special moment or is to have special significance. They are going to go separate ways, but stay in touch. By "alone" I don't mean exclusively romance. Hachiman won't go to college a loner with no friends. Not all of his friends may be by his side, but they'll still be there for him. As Hayama suggests to Hachiman in vol 10.
I want to stick my dick to Ebin
is ebin a kinky slut /a/?
>But they could stay in touch, albeit as platonic friends even if they go apart.
Boy that would be a shitty ending. Almost any other end seems like a way better ending and more meaningful than something as lame as that. Not a shipper or an edgelord but I can't think of an ending that would be more "meh" than that.
I hope Iroha gets rejected by Hayama again and she ends up in a fwb relationship with 8man, just because I think it'd make it interesting to see how Yui and Yukino react when they find out after the fact.
I think it's pretty realistic too. Girl is rejected and 8man thinks he's unlovable.
What I am afraid of as I said earlier is an ambiguous Yukino end. They're not going to break up or even become a couple. There will be feelings unspoken between them like there has always been, but they will both know how the other feels regardless, they will exchange info to stay in touch, then go separate ways. And it will be up to us to guess on how it turns out. Realistically, it turns out that they drift apart, but you will never know for sure.
But yeah, it would be a less than happy ending.
To 8man genuine means a relationship without ambiguity. He wants a relationship he can understand, and because of that whatever the ending is I dont think it will have much ambiguity
That is probably the ending I like the least. I think that end would probably cause the least amount of discussion despite its intent, most people will post "fuck that" and not think about it again. Your suggested end is the one I want the least.
>less than happy ending.
I don't care about happy or sad or anything like that. It is the most flavorless ending possible, even "nothing gets resolved" has more flavor. WW could make an NTR end, 3P end, a nice boat end, or a bitter loner end and I would not bat an eye but the second he gives an end like that is the second I no longer hold any desire to think about the series or enjoy it.
No ambiguity for him, we are readers and not him.
I wonder why Yui decided to kill herself in Yukino's kitchen using Yukino's butcher knife and stabbing herself in the stomach and neck several times while Yukino was on the can. It seems odd to me that they ruled it a suicide so quickly.
Yeah right like she'd be the one holding the knife.
Everyone knows final form Yukino is basically Yukimom. Yukino is going to assume her full power and glory, take 8man to be her bed pan-san for life, have her family murdered, then take over the business and rule it with an iron fist.
He admits that age is his only issue. What better way to transcend to the genuine than throw away the last of society's baggage!
As for sensei herself, let's not forget she was the only one willing to help him in the beginning.
sensei teaches 8man to be genuine.
8man graduates and puts a ring on it
>He admits that age is his only issue.
Newsflash, Anon. He says the same thing about Iroha and Yui.
Every girl but Yukino has gotten the "I would have been in love with you but X things."
>8man to be her bed pan-san for life
Hikki is Yui-chan's Pan-san. Yukino can have her pick of any other Pan-san.
She is always a turtle.
I like how that's the part of it you had a problem with. Everything else was cool.
Have you heard about that woman who was a groupie in the 60s and made sculptures of different rock stars penises?
All Yui would have to do is take 8man to see her, getting a custom dildo of the 8inch-er made, then she could happily leave the club and let Yukino/8man be together.
>Has been smoking for years
>Higher chance in lung cancer
No just no. This women is just to disadvantageous for a fresh 18 year old to put a ring on it. If all the me she ever dated didn't find her wifey material....what makes Hachiman? Pussy can only be so good before you start to notice her character deficits.
Whatever helps you sleep at night. No way a near 30 year old women hasn't experimented before. I bet sensei was wild in high school kek.
> I bet sensei was wild in high school
If by "wild in high school" you mean "wrote a love letter to a boy that she kept in her desk but was too chicken to give and has regretted it ever since" then yes she was a regular ho bag.
The character songs reflect nothing. You are a fool to assign meaning to them.
You can't leglock a dildo as it releases inside of you. Yui doesn't want that sort of lie.
No. I >>139718049 am not the one you were originally responding to. We know she isn't a virgin because she's been in a relationship with a man and lived with him before.
But she was definitely not 'wild in high school' as you suggested.
She talked about one guy who took all her furniture or some shit. And who cares, it's always better when the girl has some experience and knows what she's doing. Not saying fucking around like a bitch in heat, but some experience. (different anon btw).
Plus it fucks with the group dynamic. Yukino and Yui don't have any other friends (Hayama et al don't count for Yui since she's barely on their radar), so they can't risk messing it up.
They're probably worried. Either way one girl will get him and the other won't. They both don't want to hurt each other, but at the same time they can't just let the other one have him. The loser will probably be bitter and eventually stop being friends.
>Yukino and Yui don't have any other friends (Hayama et al don't count for Yui since she's barely on their radar)
The fuck are you talking about?
Miura and Ebina care about Yui a lot, it's Yui who doesn't trust them with anything.
Even Tobe shows to care a lot about his friends worrying about Iroha and running after her without a second thought after her rejection, and also shows that he cares about Hayato and even 8man.
8man will pick the one he wants, there isn't much they can do about that. They just have to agree to not be asshurt by it no matter what. Is it really so bad to have the two people you care about love eachother?
Because she is a pure maiden looking for genuine.
Obviously he does not. The word is even more abused than NTR used to be.
>Mfw I was a male version of Orimoto
I was friendly and just talked to everyone about anything, didn't have any problems like you guys but I knew I was a lying bitch and that I didn't belong to any group of real friends.
Except for that one guy who saw through my shit from the start , he's my best friend now.
hey that's a still; she needs to nibble. Nibblenon is cute
>tfw new girl takes the spotlight of the entire 2nd season
What kind of shitty main heroines do you need to create in order for this to happen?
Sure is genuine to be a leech on society
I wouldn't be surprised if they planned to release the last BD and Volume 12 at the same time. If you read the afterwords, you'll know that WW is terrible when it comes to making deadlines. He's also tied up with two other projects right now
>tfw no Saki/Miura yuri hatesex doujins
Thanks for the constant threads, guys. I don't know how these series are still discussed that frequently; however, I'm glad I've encountered these threads right after I watched this anime.
>How about it? You’re okay with that store, right? We are going in, right? You don’t know what “I won’t go” means, right? Isshiki pulled at my scarf silently as if asking those strings of questions. Um, my scarf isn’t a leash, you know?
How can one girl be so best?
I`ve started the first season yesterday, and I have to ask, will characters ever transcend their cardboard cutout characteristics in some future episode?
Watching tryhard loner rationalize his loner ways berfore muh ideal broad and muh klutz can only be so entertaining.
>Watching tryhard loner rationalize his loner ways berfore muh ideal broad and muh klutz can only be so entertaining.
Just don't complain when those characteristics fall apart.
>I AM SO HURT INSIDE LOOK AT ME SUFFERINK
That was only Yukino but as Watari stated in the afterword it would have made no difference if Yukino told him what was going on or what she truly wanted as he would have just twisted her words to fit his own view.
That would have been terrible considering he doesn't even see Totsuka as and actual person and just a trap until the end when he sees him as the captain.
Besides Totsuka doesn't want to be girly he wants to grow up to be manly, a manly nurse.
genuine in your life?
no, i can honestly say no to that
Fuck the world
Freshman year in highschool. Too dense and young to realize that cute deaf girl was into me. Continue to pass notes to each other, having fun. Never see her the next year. Time passes, matured a little, putting the pieces together and saw that I missed a chance with the Silent Golden beauty. It was genuine and I didn't know it.
since you spent so much time writing that crap
she's nothing but a cunt
I`m not sure about the whore thing, but boy does she seem like not a nice person. Should 8man be an actual bona fide loner instead of a poser, he would leave the fucking club immidiately. Even more likely, she wouldn`t push him in the club direction in the first place.
And bitches would actually be interested in him.
>says no one cares about you
>people think that meant she actually cares about him
Yukinofags ladies and gentlemen.
Yui is a good girl and never did anything manipulative, hurtful, or unfair.
We're a collective of pain and disgust, somewhat enjoying chinese cartoons.
Because he`s a poser. Real loner wouldn`t be hurt because he made peace with himself long ago.
Why would he be happy in the first place? Look at the body language, old desperate lady is holding on to him like an alligator, and ripe young bitches are all in their own group. Typical sad beta thing, and without even the betabux.
8MAN FUTURE KEK
It`s not even about you as much as her. You can get a girl if you put some work into it, but it`s so much harder with her disability. Especially if you had the chemistry going.
Cue happily married /a/non with a deaf wife screenshots.
>Why is it that she's the only person that can hurt him?
8man holds her highly. Too bad she doesn't care about him at all and looked like she enjoyed telling him that.
It will only drive him into the arms of best girl in the end.
>Real loner wouldn`t be hurt because he made peace with himself long ago.
8man was never a real loner, remember the reason why he admired Yukinoshita in the beginning was because she had those perfect loner qualities that he desired.
please understand 8man's forever alone
she's licking her lips
My bad, that was the wrong one.
predatory expired xmas cake whore
But only Yukino can truly appreciate a Pan-san for what it truly is, Yui could be given an Panda-Ichirou and she wouldn't even know the difference.
Saki streetfighter would take the blonde slut out no problems
Always remember, 8man is forever alone
8man hasn't been alone ever since he was shoved into that club.
you know you'd do it
>He was doing a decent job of it in vol 11.
This isn't the smile he wanted.
It isn't his fault those two started bringing their crush over him into all of their interactions with him. If he doesn't acknowledge the romance then neither Yukino or Yui are hurt.
Literal proof Yukino doesn't care about him and tried to wash her hands of him. It is supremely shitty writing that all of the sudden was okay with him a few days later. Hell, she was more than okay with him for no reason.
weak heart, breathing difficulties, weak stamina,
I don;t know what that is. Is it like she wants him to stop acting like a fag and is trying to bait him? Or is it she wants to see if he is a bitch or not. If it is the latter girls only do that to guys they want to be in a relationship with.
I guess that would explain why she went from looking like she was done with him to trying to kiss him in a matter of a few weeks.
Why were Saki and Iroha bothered by Orimoto slutting it up?
Spoken like a teenager who hasn't seen much of the world and actually been exposed to good fiction.
Either that or a mentally stunted man child. Take your pick. Doesn't matter, you're pleb anyway for thinking this is an amazing series.
That's one cunt that I would gladly plow through.
Stating your opinions in no fucks given manner is alpha too, especially if those opinions go against the grain.
Fo you even have to ask? She`s a single teacher with best "before date" approaching like a fucking Istanbul Express. She`d love to have that young dick in her, because fetching college or freshly out of college dudes wouldn`t look at her even once.
>Fo you even have to ask? She`s a single teacher with best "before date" approaching like a fucking Istanbul Express. She`d love to have that young dick in her, because fetching college or freshly out of college dudes wouldn`t look at her even once.
Tell that to the judge
I wonder if any dead fish eyed loners has ever greased Sensei's wheels.
>Stating your opinions in no fucks given manner is alpha too, especially if those opinions go against the grain.
I don't know, genuine didn't seem to affect Yukino all that much.
>implying Yukino is the one 8man loves
Yukino can't even compete with 8man's true love.
>tfw you'll never have a high school love story with a perfect girl like 8man has
>tfw you'll never feel how it is to have a perfect girlfriend
>tfw you just want to die because the chance of young love isn't there anymore
I couldn't bring myself to keep watching this show after the first half of S1 because it depressed me so much by highlighting how mundane my life is and how much it sucks.
>high school girl
Anon, don`t be sad. This shit is pure wish fulfillment for lonely otakuscum, real bitches in your normal everyman school are dumber than a rock and annoying to no end.
You have much better chances of finding a nice girl when she grows some functioning brain cells and therefore becomes much more recognizable as such.
The thing that's great about them is that they're flawed. A life full of problems is better than a boring one.
The opportunity of a high school love life is an impossibility now, you'll never live a life where you'll date a chick, fuck them, get into fights over trivial shit, keep the relationship going despite the troubles of adolescence and puberty, all that garbage.
My highschool life was so fucking boring. Nothing interesting happened, drudging through the same mundane, repetitive, schedule day in and day out, no conflict, void of anything exciting or interesting, I wasn't unhappy, it was just so very boring.
I feel like the reason these anime are popular is because they show you a highscool life that is fun and exciting, basically escapism. A life like the ones portrayed in these anime probably does happen to some people, I'm sure it does, but it certainly didn't happen to me.
It fills the hole left behind from not experiencing an exciting highschool life, that's why I think they're popular, also people are horny and want anime pussy.
Yukino understands her inevitable victory has to go hand in hand with max coffee.