A new thread is fine. Not everyone was present for the last one. If it doesn't get going, that's fine too since spoilers won't be here for another 2 days unless someone leaks early
Why does everyone cry and sperg over these characters? It's not like they were good friends to him. They were used for the same abusive gags as the girls are. He's just as afraid of Fukiyose as he is Mikoto
They're genuinely enjoyable to read and give off this "back to the roots" feeling instead of flinging just another character in your face.
Also Tsuchimikado is a very interesting character overall. Better than all the characters introduced in NT.
birdway best girl
>Leader of one of the most powerful magical cabal
>Bossy and arrogant in a non-overbearing and kawaii way
>A normal magical who worked hard to be at Saint level
>Is that cool and awesome character you can count on not just because she's strong, but there's something special about her who can do things that normal magicians can't do or achieve
>Anti-heroine who has a main objective that opposes the MC and his faction, but also has common objectives
>Isn't afraid to do questionable things and get her hands dirty
>Top tier gap moe
>Tsundere for her onii-chan
So is this a quick wrap-up of what previous threads talked about and what might happen:
>IT getting more depth/explanation soon based on preview
>Fun times with kamisato and usagi-san at the new school
>Salome's power is for real (time stopping was the most repeated power idea)
>A level 5 will job, probably mugino/kakine/gunha
>Yuiitsu is actually going to do something (involving dark matter, AIM stalker, or even IT)
>Your favorite girl is still a shit
>Othinus is kind meme has been thrown out the window
>HIGH PRIEST YOU GOD DAMN MUMMY
As much as I don't like it, time stop makes the most sense for Salome's power.
(If you've read or watched Stardust Crusaders you know exactly what I mean)
It could mislead all the Level 5s. The only Level 5 that could possibly do anything against it is Accelerator, and I believe even he would have to get kicked around a bit before figuring out how to counter it.
>inb4 "you forgot GUTS"
No, I didn't. I don't think Gunha could do shit against time stopping in his current state.
I wonder how IB and WR would affect time stop.
Let me honest. I dislike time stop because I'm super butthurt over Kakoyin and am afraid Kamachi would use time stop to kill off interesting characters. But I'd be hype as fuck for a time stopper getting BTFO by Accelerator or Touma
>implying Touma and Kamisato won't go on adventures through space-time to stop Salome from fucking it up, meeting the younger versions of the Level 5s, setting them to a future where they are not be always complete assfucking doucheholes
>except Kakine fuck that guy
>Accelerator dies in an experiment at age 10 because he stood up to darkness, this time 17031 clones die because the new guy killing them DID want them dead and was harder to stop because he had a harder heart
>Misaka also dies to the new Number One
>Mugino is the only one who gets a happy ending
Say Salome can time travel and only Touma and Kamisato can see the differences because of their right hands.
I doubt the changes she makes will turn out well. I wonder if it'll almost be NT9 levels of infinite loops of fucked up shit.
I'm guessing the changes will center around the Level 5s in this possibility? Maybe she has something do with one of them?
Throw out your theories guys
Personally I'd rather time stop than time travel simply because we just had an arc that centered around looping and looping through time, even if it wasn't exactly time travel.
Maybe. But there's no guarantee. Its better to phrase it has "I wonder if there will be a picture or note inside the clock" instead of phrasing it like you're sure there will be one.
So, this confirms that Touma is an esper
Even if IT is magical in nature AC did something to his right hand. IB is not a pure right hand like Kamisato's and it may be a science side thing put there to mess with the magic side
He could cast a shadow on the user. We haven't really seen how someone using power on him works. What if WR eats/negates power that gets sent his way as long as his shadow is there?
Kind of like a mix up of Accelerator's auto protect and IB.
Kind of makes sense
If I were legitimately retarded I likely would not be able to type, and definitely not be able to follow Index. Therefore you are not stating facts. You shat out an insult because you were offended
Why? Butterfly effect could easily make Accelerator and Misaka replaceable.
>I don't wanna do dark stuff! And I'm gonna say it! Fuck this and fuck you.
>Ok kid. Your vector powers are cool but we can get something else. Next please!
So far it seems to be straight into serious mode, not that that's indicative. Also depends what you mean by "the plot", if you mean the overarching Crowley story, then we've got more from the past few volumes than we've had ever.
I can tell you what Salome's power WON'T be: nothing but bad dating advice.
Anyone who thought this will be a not-serious shipping volume with Salome ~misleading~ Mikoto and Misaki oretty much got BTFO with the preview
So how can Kamachi piss the largest amount of people off as possible with this volume?
My best guess:
>drop the tension and IB origin teasing
>Salome actually has no power/power based on romance/harem
>she actually makes Mikoto confess
>Mikoto gets rejected
>No Yuiitsu, Dark Matter, Rikou or Accelerator tease
Can someone else think of anything better
>drop the tension and IB origin teasing
Just like Ichiranasai
>Can someone else think of anything better
>Usagi is more worthless than Shinka
>the most cool fights are off screen
>Touma doesn't punches anybody
>and if he does, it's implied to happen off screen
>But Index said the misfortune is created by my right hand negating the blessings of god. That would mean Imagine Breaker has to precede the misfortune.
Didn't Index say this before Touma lost his memory? How did he even remember that?
>mfw Touma is merely pretending because he recovered his memories during NT9
I know what day it comes out. The afternoon on the 8th would be In the middle of the night on the 7/8th, which means tomorrow night
It could be out tonight if someone gets a copy and leaks. I doubt this is likely but it's not impossible. Most likely spoilers will happen tomorrow night or the next night
People don't "get" early copies. It's usually someone from the bookstores who leaks the pictures, and that never happens more than a day before the release date after Japan tightened some regulations around 3 years ago.
God, call me a shipper or whathever, but I just love Othinus and Touma interacting.
Would pay just for their SOL.
>Birdway didn't stick around after the hotpot
This makes me sad.
It seems like Kamachi can finally do the sidekick dynamic that I think he wanted for Index (the character) but without all the problems. Othinus can be there for almost every scene just by tagging along since she's fucking tiny and Touma can talk to her whenever it's convenient for the plot. Touma can do his introspection by talking to Othinus at Kamachi's convenience and they don't have to hide anything from each other because that's how they were set-up (since he's doing introspection and she's the character he's bouncing his thoughts against).
It's the same reason why Lucy from Mx0 was my favorite character. She knew all of Taiga's secrets and talked to him all the time mainly because they were together the most due to her convenient role and size. It may seem like she was just a convenient device for Taiga to bounce his thoughts against/someone to talk to because he was keeping a secret from everyone else but she turned out to be my favorite because they didn't have to hide anything from each other.
>years after Index
>Touma feels like he needs to go to the convienence store to buy some food
>gets out of house
>after some walk he gets to the convinience store
>is about to cross the road
>hears an Uho hoi in the distance
This. Shit is going to happen. I also think it'll actually have little to do with Touma for once but he will still be watching.
An example of this is Salome fucking with time and therefore Touma's world, even if Touma is not what she cares about
>“Gods are just awful, aren’t they!?”
>“That includes me, you know?”
>“Can you look me in the eye and swear you’ve never done anything like that, Othinus? I don’t know much about Norse mythology, but I’m betting there’s something there.”
>He could guess what it meant when the eyepatch maiden cleared her throat.
>“Let’s see what turns up when I search ‘Odin’ and ‘cruelty’.”
>“Stop! You have to be insane to search someone’s name in front of them!”
Oh shit. If Salome can mess with time, couldn't that open up Othinus getting her powers back?
If she were to mess with time, couldn't it potentially result in NT9/10 going a different way? Or maybe even something before that? So Othinus would never lose her power?
Say Salome messes with something and suddenly Othinus changes her plan in NT or never comes up with a plan to begin with because she's eased her "no one understands me" angst a different way or never had it to begin with. Or what if everything was the same except for how NT10 ended?
I wonder what Kamachi could do with that.
>Salome /səˈloʊmiː/ (Greek: Σαλώμη Salōmē, pronounced [salóːmeː]) (c. AD 14 – between 62 and 71) was the daughter of Herod II and Herodias. She is infamous for demanding and receiving the head of John the Baptist, according to the New Testament. According to Flavius Josephus's Jewish Antiquities, Salome was first married to Philip the Tetrarch of Ituraea and Trakonitis. After Philip's death in 34 AD she married Aristobulus of Chalcis and became queen of Chalcis and Armenia Minor. They had three children. Three coins with portraits of Aristobulus and Salome have been found. Her name in Hebrew is שלומית (Shlomiẗ, pronounced [ʃlomiθ]) and is derived from the root word שָׁלוֹם (shalom), meaning "peace".
Salome will demand Touma's or Kekeru's head, but will be peacful by the end.
The thing is, that meme was made with full knowledge that she is not in fact perfectly kind but rather because Touma simplified it to that when she stopped torturing him and gave his world back. I don't see how that throws it out.
Demanding someone's head is pretty...not peaceful.
I wonder what this could translate into with Index.
She didn't ask fir Jesus' head.
Touma = Jesus
(Not really but go with me here)
So who would John the Baptist be?
>So who would John the Baptist be?
Kakeru. Or Tsuchimikado, Aoami, Index, Misaka, Accel. Since Level 5s are mentioned, only Misaka and Accel remains. Since Accel appeared long ago, I guess it will be him.
How is level 5 weaker than saints? Misaka could keep up with that valkyrie hybrid bitch and accel with Kakine would just fuck them up on spot. Misaki might be able to mindcontrol one, and if mugino hits with er ability saint is instakilled. Dont know about gunha or aogami
Spoilers from a nip friend:
>Misaka confronts Touma, wants him to explain everything to her
>help me, so I can help you scenario
>Touma gives in
>Misaka storms off to castrate Kamisato
>She is beaten up by the harem
>Touma saves her
>In an emotional moment, she confesses
>Touma says nope, telling her everything was already a mistake, it would just bring more harm to her
>Misaka goes home while crying
>Crazy haremettes ambush her
>Everyone kicks and tosses her around
>A magicians inflicts mental pain
>Dismemberment by plant vines
>Finally the scientist decapatitates her
>Sends her head to Touma with a drone
It was all in a non's head
Because Brunhild refused to let go of her sword and Mikoto was given time to set up a field radar before the fight. In any normal situation where the Saint doesn't choose to be a retard Mikoto would lose in a heartbeat.
I don't remember exactly the quote, but I'm pretty sure that Yusen is a spell that Kanzaki uses with her sword that can cut pretty much everything, or at least it says that it's an instant kill. Point is that Kanzaki doesn't kill, and second of all she would to be at least on par talking about speed. I think it gets explained during the battle against Carissa, because technically even Carissa's sword should cut through anything. I don't have the novels to check though
Not that one, the "I'll spread iron sand all over the ground and detect her movements using that" one that Kamachi said was the only thing letting her keep up with her movements.
>A tremendous noise rang out.
>The next thing Kamijou knew, Kanzaki and Carissa had their blades locked together at extremely close quarters. Carissa had merely rushed in and swung her sword, but Kamijou hadn’t been able to see even that simple action.
>“So you can fight on the level of this dimension-severing attack? With two attacks that can slice through anything, some inconsistencies or contradictions may be created between the two laws.”
ARRRGGGHHH KANZAKI HELP ME, I'M IRRELEVANT AGAIN
OK guys, I've got some spoilers, but the guy they are from is shady, so take it with a grain of salt.
>The students at Touma's school are sent to different schools till it gets repaired
>With AC tech it won't take more than a few days
>Non of Touma's classmates go to the same place as him
>Somehow, Aogami ended up in an all-girl school
>Bunny girl is class prez in new school and basically Komoe 2.0, bugging Touma about his grades and worriing he might 'infect' her school with lazyness
>Talks about an other transfer student who is actually competent and helpful
>Turns out it's Kamisato
>Usual SoL moments with Bunny and a 'cold' Kamisato
>Kamisato's harem follows him to school, so he ends up hiding in the same place as Touma, who is hiding from Bunny
>Narration switches to Salome
>Enters the city in an 'unusual' manner
>She came from London, and her mission is to capture a certain someone, but she is more concerned about someone else she wants to bring home
>She says her power is 'miracules'
>She can seemingly teleport, alter fate, predict things and cause all kinds of miracules
>She demonstrates it when a kid runs onto the road, right before a car, but when she appeared, the kid somehow 'moved' safely to the other side
>Her target is Accelerator, someone her employer wants for themselves
>Her main reason to agree to the mission is that she can bring home her childhood friend, Kamisato Kakeru
>Back at Touma, Ellen calls Kakeru and explains that 'she' is here
>Kakeru is afraid, because he doesn't want his harem powers to work on her
>They talk about Salome's mysterious 'third power' and miracules, and Touma hears the conversation and thinks she can help him understand IT and IB
>Then he rushes out to save whoever Salome wants to capture and ask her
>Kakeru learns that Salome wants to defeat Accel and fears she will die to him, so he sets out too
>Back to Salome, she is actually doing pretty good against Accel
>He tries to analyze her abilities, but doesn't understand how can she harm him
>As Touma and Kakeru enters the scene, they almost fight again
>Kakeru wants to protect Salome, but doesn't want to save her, because then she would be added to the harem
>Touma's idea is that he just grabs her and runs away before Accel can harm her
>Strangly, her power won't work on Touma
>Meanwhile, Accel figured out what was the problem
>Salome is a gemstone who can stop time for a while
>Volume ends with Yuitsu knocking out the weakened Accel, with an 'outwordly blast'
>She wants to attack Touma next
>Kakeru decides tha he will help Touma, but WR doesn't work on Yuitsu, and since she made her weapons, they won't disappera, unlike with Noukan
>Laura smiles, the kid she hired couldn't bring her the key, but things are getting intresting
>Next vol is about Yuitsu's revenge against Aleister and everything dear to him
>>Kamisato's harem follows him to school, so he ends up hiding in the same place as Touma, who is hiding from Bunny
Aogamis part made it rather questionable, but this one saved it
Not all the covers are perfect 1:1 events that happen in the story
I miss the Amakusas, Stiyl, Kanzaki, Tsuchimikado and all of the older characters. They all had fun interactions that a lacking nowadays. Like how many suddenly important characters does Kamachi want to introduce that aren't as charming as the old ones because they're just a plot device to be thrown away after. I mean we haven't seen Accel in like 10 volumes except for a brief appearance during the boss rush
I'm not sure how I feel about these potentially fake spoilers.
One one hand, it definitely sounds Kamachi and compltely plausible.
On the other, it also sounds like an /a/non who knows Kamachi's style and what /a/ in general wants made something up on the fly.
The person who originally posted those spoilers literally used the word "spoilers" (air quotes) to describe them.
So they are 99% fake. The 1% is me betting the actual novel might be very, very close.
>after a Level 5
Would you be able to affect Accelerator even if he was stopped in time though? He wouldn't be able to do anything complicated but his regular shield was automatic wasnt it, it even worked while he was asleep.
Frozen time would not have vectors on Accelerator's end. There'd be nothing for him to reflect until time restarted. I doubt you could kill him but I bet you could injure him.
>stab or shoot him while time is stopped and make sure the bullet is as close to him as you can get it
None of this would kill him though, I'm betting.
But like the spoilers say, I'm betting she would want him alive anyway
I hacked into Kamachi's database but I could only read a glimpse of what actually happens in this volume since someone noticed and encrypted the thing beyond salvation. The world police is on my ass so I'll be quick.
the #6 Level 5 is a
Getting only knocked out by a literal angel attacking with the intent to destroy half of Eurasia makes one think that an attack or two from Kanzaki isn't going to do a lot however.
Kakine can't even beat some robutt slut that's using a knockoff of accelerator's powers.
I fucking believed in him, his entrance where he destroyed the helicopter with his big beetle form was based as fuck and then he got his ass handed to him.
>mfw takitsubo reaches level 5 and gives all of the current level 5s a boost in strength allowing them to compete with and defeat saints
This is happening at some point and you know it.
Misaki couldn't keep up with roller blade dudes that were only half as fast as a saint. she would be fucked. Same with Mugino she doesn't have advanced tracking like mikoto and mikoto only worked because of the pre-laid out iron sand.
accel, kakine, and gunha can already compete.
Why doesn't academy city just start pumping out cute robot girls that can use white wings like rensa but none of the other 5 powers? Seems a lot better than those praying mantis biribiri-bots.
>Mugino she doesn't have advanced tracking like mikoto
I thought the point of her catching St. Germains spears out of the air was to show that her robot bits had really superhuman reaction times? Not saying she's saint tier, but she's not totally useless.
They need to cut bits out of people's brains to make Rensas. Also Aleister seems to prefer to use tech derived from Esper powers (Dark Matter enhanced soldiers, Five_Over series etc.) rather than straight up using things with esper powers for some reason.
>pre-laid out iron sand.
Isn't that shit every where in the city?
Like, Mikoto doesn;t set it up before hand - its just there.
Apart from virgin enviroments like the middle of a tundra or forest untouched by human hands, that iron sand will be there in at least small quantaties.
Sometimes people don't die immediately when they're cut in half, right? It would have been nice for frenda to get the rensa treatment and join the brigade, adding an android to the two cyborgs we have already.
But seriously though, I wonder how much a rensa without powers costs. One with powers would already make for a unique companion. Maybe Aneri will become a bit more advanced and get a body, she's already competing with takitsubo for the hamazurabowl.
>Sometimes people don't die immediately when they're cut in half, right?
true but mugino dragged frenda's upper half around town. Then again her surviving makes more sense than sniper-chan being alive
Dont mean to change gears so quickly, but what still boggles my mind is how mugino found frenda so quickly. Even hanzou who isn't a member of a team like ITEM has a ton of escape routes and hideouts, you'd think that frenda would be able to get away with her own paths.
I was hoping that railgun would shed some light on what exactly went on with her throughout the battle royale since they teased us with the sniper fight, but they just skipped it.
>Where the hell is Frenda?!
>Saten passes by
>Hey, did you ssayy Frenda? Is she a friend of you?
>Mugino plays dumb and says yes
>Saten says she saw her go to "that" place
>Mugino thanks her and leaves with a disturbing scary smile
>mfw Saten's big mouth vaussed Frenda's death
As much as that sounds like something saten would do, the clothing covered in blood and distorted face from losing her shit would probably give mugino away.
I actually miss psycho mugino, it was rather exciting even if she was a huge jobber.
Slutty chapter doesn't deserve to get translated. Neither does sniper-chan getting bullied by kakine. Let's move on to the next arc already.
Refer to all the posts where someone posts an image of mikoto and misaki asking for season 3 and someone else responds with an image of shiage calling them sluts.
Pay them no mind like stiylposter or the shitty tier list guy.
Birdway has no place in NT15 though, it's mostly gonna be science or a circle-jerk between the three powers.
Honestly I hope someone like takitsubo gets kidnapped by yuiitsu just to spice up the list of characters here, I'm not satisfied with kamijou, usagi-san, and kamisato's faction.
Misaka better show up in this volume or I'm going to kill myself.
Midriff is underrated. Itsuwa, Orianna, Umidori, Othinus, and whoever else I'm forgetting all have my thanks for showing them off.
Mikoto is literally sex. Touma is gay as fuck for not noticing.
>volume will heavily feature Kamisato
Eh, he's not that bad I guess, but his harem a shit so I'd rather he be one of those characters Kamachi uses and throws away, rather than a reoccuring one
>Touma is gay as fuck for not noticing.
She hasn't shoved her belly button in his face yet. They should all just go to the beach again really.
>Touma won't notice her because she's flat
>Accelerator won't notice her because he can't get it up, and if he could it would go straight into last order
>Shiage won't notice her because she isn't a sleepy fuckdoll and won't wear a bunny suit
>Gunha won't notice her because she doesn't have GUTS
>Thor won't notice her because he's a dumb powerlust shounen trap
Mikoto is dumb for not going after the only man who will truly love her. And then when she finally turns her attention to kuroko out of desperation, she'll find that musujime has already taken her.
It will forever amuse me that in a series that suddenly introduces one guy and a bunch of girls, and is more or less a harem anime, we all decided Kamisato's harem was a shit, but most people see Kamisato as a pretty interesting character.
>And then when she finally turns her attention to kuroko out of desperation
>Implying she will ever see Kuroko as nothing more than a friend, no matte how desperate
>Implying a 10/10 cute that is considered hotte than an idol won't be swatting away guys left and right.
The old man was competition for sure but he ate shit, I'm talking about Etzali who is surely lurking around.
The girl in the dress and him were dropped so fucking hard, yet the out of place heavy object character put in work just three volumes ago. Kamachi needs to step it up.
What goes through takitsubo's mind when she does things like that? Is it the price she has to pay for potentially being the most broken esper in history?
Probably using her powers to stalk Hamazura and every girl he has ever crossed paths with
>Making Salome a member of Touma´s harem would be funny just to see the face of Kakeru at the end.
He would be happy, considering he doesn't want another girl in his harem. He would gladly give them all to another person, probably.
It's time for a new take on the girl listings.
LITERAL SEMEN DEMON TIER
Girl in the dress
PURER THAN FRESH WHITE SNOW TIER
Misaka deserves nothing but love and affection.
Unless it's from a filthy spic. Etzali please stop posting.
Now this is a sensible tier list. Aside from Saiai not being in literal semen demon and misaki not being in turboslut, I have no issues.
No one loses because both ends of the list are good.
>Anywhere but purer than fresh white snow
This is unacceptable. And why didn't you include banri and haruue in maiden tier?
He doesn't like them being all obsessed over a guy like a harem member though, I'm sure he'd still be pissed as fuck if Harem Accepter brainwashed his annoying not-actual imouto
>all those fresh new episodes from this season coming out friday
>NT15 spoilers and translations should be starting around then
My fingers might fall off from the shitposting. NT13 with high priest and NT14 were moves in the right direction, hopefully NT15 delivers and Salome turns out to be likeable.
Even if Salaome a shit we'll have a Level 5, Kamisato and possibly Usagi/Othinus. Quite a few things have to go wrong for this volume to go to shit.
That's not to say it can't, but Ive got hope
>gunha won't notice her because she doesn't have GUTS
That didn't stop him before
Keeping him in high school would help keep him in check. Or maybe he just enjoys watching touma suffer.
A fight with a level 5 would be cool, but having them lose or even be utterly defeated would be annoying. A large part depends on if Salome and Kamisato will be the primary foes this time or if Yuiitsu finally does something after 11 volumes of sneaking around pulling peoples' strings.
Don't devalue komoe, she's already getting replaced by a worthless bunny ear wearing nobody.
Well, I wouldn't want Accelerator to lose entirely but a nice, tense fight would be great. I'm a huge Accelfag but even I would get bored if the first thing he did after a long absence is quickly win a dangerous fight. Let him struggle.
I used him as an example, but it applies to any level 5
>letting kakine loose
>yakumi hisako/agitate halation
>whatever it was he was doing in NT11, I completely forgot that volume
Whatever she does has to top all this stuff.
Later. We're never getting a third season and the more content we have to keep us alive the better.
Index should be picking up soon when avignon starts and accelerator has a lot of potential. Even if it's meaningless filler shit like everything since the daihaseisai ended, I still enjoy the art and characters of railgun.
They're not adapting the index arcs so I don't see the point really. I guess we could dick around until the next time Misaka does something in the main novels, that's what the single scene seeing Touma hobble off to fight Aqcua and then nothing until WW3?
It should have ended with daihasei
Not only is Misaka going to be too busy in the weeks leading to WWIII for anything meaningful happening to her in railgun, no matter what happens from now on or how the manga may end nothing in railgun could or should be bigger than the daihasei climax.
They went on a romantic bike ride together. Sadly they were being chaperoned by an old guy who kept trying to break them up.
>they could have shown frenda's completely open POV during the battle royale
>they could have shown us the goggles fight and perhaps even given us a POV for the girl in the dress along with her name
>they could have developed her relationship with saten
>they could have given mikoto an original plot line taking place during the same day
>they could have made references to major battle royale moments without actually covering them so the index manga can take care of it
>But instead, they skip the whole arc, literally trashing all the build-up like MEMBER from the daihaseisai and the SCHOOL introduction
>All so mikoto could sleep through one of the biggest moments in the entire series and grope misaki's chest
I don't recall Mikoto doing much in WW3 besides fighting some base and then running after Touma again, so they actually could put something alright there akin to Shiage's saving that one village with her the other Misaka Sister. It would mean having to put up with a lot of filler to get there though.
White wings Accel doesn't have much trouble with Telesma though. He took on a mass of Telesma that had enough power to transform the entire world. He couldn't completely reflect them but managed to block them and survived without any obvious injury. He didn't even use much power from the Network for that, as he still had enough charge left in the batteries to wreck shit again.
>Avignon gets fucking bombarded
>Uiharu got bullied hard by Kakine
>Xochitl lost 2/3 of her body
>Tetsumou got her fingers blown off
>Frenda got torn in half by meltdowner
>Saiai got thrashed and nearly killed
>Takitsubo nearly OD'd
>Mugino got riddled with bullets and lost an eye and arm
>Saten loses a friend
>Saraku gets Vectored
>Goggles Boy gets burned to death
>Management gets pulverized
>Musujime's leg muscles got torn
>Yoshio Baba gets isolated until the day he dies
>Hakase gets atomized
>Yamate gets skinned
>Megumi jobs to Musujime
>Tatsuhiko got knocked out before he could fight
>Yomikawa got turned into meat skewer
>Kakine is turned into paint and put in a brainjar
>Aqua is victim of Amakusa's Japanese Gangbang
>Aqua loses his powers, twice
>Terra gets Frenda'd
>All so Misaka could grope Misaki
The entirety of the series led to that moment, all of the things Kamachi has written for a decade, all of his dauntless hard work, all of the things he had to sacrifice, all the things he restlessly endured, led to that moment, that one single moment, where a maiden gropes her much more endowed rival.
MIsaka would have been outright wrecked in less than half a second if the Valkyrie bothered to let go of her sword.
Misaka had every advantage possible outright given to her which only ended in her keeping up at best and it was later said in that same LN that Brunhilde fighting Misaka was a purposeful distraction.
And most of it was washed away with perfect prosthetics, what was the actual death toll in the end? like 3? Also index isn't Railgun, I don't really get what you're trying to prove here?
Even worse is that those two volumes which probably wouldn't even take up ten episodes if there was a third season contain more violence than in the past two seasons of index combined, and they happen literally right after where the anime ends.
It all lead to this.
She's probably into it.
Watching her man plow another woman into submission and knowing that his powerful seed is fertilizing another womb aside from her own...
She might even enjoy watching Shiage turn another headstrong slut into a submissive mother of his child. Hell, she might even encourage and help him find sluts to impregnate. She's proud of her man.
Mook magicians can take down accel. All espers have easily exploitable weaknesses that can be planned out for later use with minimal effort from a magican. The problem is almost noone ever fucking bothers to do so for some reason.
I don't know if I should like this or if I should feel bad for takitsubo, since shiage will probably be sexually repressed enough to actually go ahead ravage the rest of ITEM.
Umidori too, she fucking owes him for botching the fight against rensa.
His vectors were up and running when he got his ass handed to him in Hawaii. Just merely being an esper gives him an exploitable weakness without magicians having to understand his actual powers.
That pic really sums up what people think of railgun lately
Who thought this was a good idea?
Did you seriously just try to imply there's only one method for spellcasting?
There are outright hundreds of thousands of different methods they can try to trick him into doing. It wouldn't surprise me if there was a method that activated upon drinking a special blend of coffee.
Fuyukawa and his inability to kill cute girls in railgun. We should have listen to those anons that were getting mocked for saying he wouldn't do it. This is the future we chose.
Also, I'm not going to re-post that list and clog the thread but it's missing the fact that sniper-chan lost half her face and now has to shamefully wear an avian bane mask.
I didn't, but getting other people to cast spells without them knowing or doing anything fancy like drawing out a circle isn't what I'd call common knowledge or anything that any magician ever thinks they're going to have to know besides Gremlin.
Put Enshuu in between Dog and the rest, and you're good.
I'll give you that Kagun is debatably one of the best Kiharas, but who in their right mind thinks Kihara "lol I'm so crazy, I'm just going to punch Accelerator and do fuck all else" Amata is anywhere near as good as Kihara Noukan?
Didn't read since the volume with Misaki, did anything actually interesting or revealing happen since then? Or did Kamachi just introduce new people and concepts into the story left and right?
Noukan is a cigar-smoking talking dog that uses a powered suit compatible with rocket launchers, lasers, machine guns, etc.
He would have redeemed the ice boats shit 10 times over but he's so far ahead in the novel that it's not even worth bringing up.
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>that can be planned out for later use with minimal effort
At this point it's something that's actually reasonable to know. AC has demonstrably shown it's hostility to magicians since at least WWIII with it's artificial angel that fucks up magicians.
AC has even sent accel as a weapon via orbital bombardment multiple times. You might have had a point at the start of the series but now it is actually reasonable for any magician with a brain to come up with at least 1 anti-accelerator/esper plan.
You still have to not only know that espers have the whole feedback thing, but set a trap for them like that, hope Accelerator touches it, hope that vectors dont stop Accelerator from truly touching it in the same manner everyone else does and then hope that's enough to put them out of commission because as both he and Tsuchimikado show it really isn't. This is of course trivializing how the feedback thing isn't common knowledge for magicians who study magic all day and that they often rely on their spells because that's their point of pride rather than traps and stuff. Otherwise magicians would be more commonly carrying back up plans like, I dunno, having a gun or some shit.
If HP was so mad about mikoto making Touma fight like a bitch why didn't he just take her out? He one shotted Fiamma he clearly could have gotten rid of Mikoto especially when she tried to fight him directly.
I rather doubt espers whole feedback phenomena is common knowledge to magicians. No one bothers because so many magicians have pride in their spells being that their usually the culmination of their work and sometimes even their magic names, so they don't carry around a whole whack of back up plans with them, like learning self defense, carrying a non-magical weapon, or even having mooks to back them up. These kinds of guys deciding that they should plan for the eventuality that they meet a single guy randomly and should learn a new method of casting simply does not seem like something people outside of Gremlin would do. Seeing as Gremlin's whole fucking shtick was that they were of both Science and Magic and were seen as hilariously heretical.
Because despite being dicks sometimes the Magic Gods are inherently forces of good. This has been mentioned a few times. Niang Niang attacking Mikoto has been basically the only exception and it could be argued she figured she'd live thanks to Touma.
It looked like to me he was just listing his personal preferences, and obviously more people will probably say they like amata more because of his time in the anime.
If we're actually talking quality then of course noukan is better. No need to be passive aggressive about it.
It's common knowledge because of the incident with Ellis and the subsequent treaty. Magic is for the untalented and can't be wielded by those with abilities, etc. It's well known since gem stones are the same way. The whole reason magic exists is thought to be because to combat the unfairness of gemstones.
Looking at it, it doesn't seem to me like what specifically happened to Ellis is common knowledge. I'll be the first to admit that I don't remember him well and that the wiki gets stuff wrong a lot; however, it tells me that while that was experimented they were immediately wiped out by the knights of England under the orders to not let magical secrets leak out and only knew they were in contact with the science side and that that isn't ok.
At minimum Neccisarius would know about feedback. Birdway has demonstrated that she knows of feedback pheneomenon which means the information clearly spread. Gremlin also used it which is another occasion of the information leaking around. Or i could point out that what happened to Ellis was a fairly major event and helped solidify a damn treaty.
Magician fights are all about prep time and/or knowledge of spells as it's generally required to come up with a counter.
Even sytl demonstrates adaptability simple because he started laminating his runes and has them replicated with a photocopier.
Your argument in that post distills down to magicians HAVE to act retarded when everything about their combat indicates the opposite.
More that they have to act prideful than retarded, because everything in the series has been pointing to them acting in that manner. It's the exception not the norm that a magician will have multiple layers of back up plans and that they will incorporate science side knowledge into said plans.
Many of them are prideful but that's never really stopped pragmatism. Magicians not having guns for fighting Touma as an example is more because they outright didn't expect to see him in the first place than losing out of pride.
In some instances what comes off as pridefulness is more akin to stubbornness against a perceived/actual slight.
Eg All of the magicans that rebelled against the bullshit "no science" treaty. They were prideful of their work but they were mostly just really pissed off that decades of work was being tossed down the drain by a retarded and exploitable treaty. They were less about keeping their pride and more about wanting to scream fuck you at the top of their lungs.
This also presumes that the magicians we've seen (which are generally relegated to a very specific regional brand/style of magic) are the dominant types in existence
I mean, of course I'm going to assume that the magicians we've seen are the most common type. That's what we have to go on after all and we've seen a good amount of different cults and cabals.
I'm simply looking at the previously said "for some reason they don't ever plan for espers" much like you have the "for some reason no one carries a gun/learns martial arts for running into Touma", it's likely just "Kamachi doesn't want espers to job/Touma to get shot so easily, but in the context of the story I see it as their pride.
Most of the magicians we've seen are based in England or Europe. Aka they're all running off of Norse/Christian templates.
We've seen a few Aztecs and Tsuchimado but in the end I honestly can't be sure if the pridefulness of magicians we have seen occasionally is simply a cultural trait native to the region, coincidence resulting from humbler magicians simply not doing anything that would impact a story, or other.
(I'm placing Kanzaki's little tribe in (other) as they're such a melting pot it would be impossible to use em as an example.)
>His focus shifted to his right arm that Othinus had grabbed just a moment before.
>“Nothing really happened.”
>'What, did you kill and bury Kamisato somewhere? I am a god of magic, strategy, and deception. Did you really think I would be bothered by that?”
>“Ow!! Don’t bite my earlobe that hard, Othinus!!”
This kindness is a bit too much. Does she know that one day he will snap?
The ones based on grimm fairy tales ( for lack of a better description for cendrillon and the others) could possibly be a different style. You mentioning the pope did remind me that the Catholic pope wasn't overly prideful despite being a powerful magician. I also probably set the bar a bit higher for being prideful since having grand magical power should logically result in at least a little overconfidence or pride. Styl could use a lighter instead but goddammit what's the point of flame powers if one can't abuse them for every little thing?
You trying to get her killed anon?
On another note, I wonder if othinus will stick around long enough in her mini form to watch touma sleeping with index or whoever he ends up with from a little corner with envy.
It will probably never happen but it'd be entertaining seeing mugino and mikoto switch places in touma and hamazura's groups.
Touma gets the well-endowed onee-san he wanted, but she's got a few screws loose. Maybe nothing would change for hamazura though other than the manner of abuse.
Othinus is plenty yandere as it is
Is there anyone here who would be interested in joining a Raildex creative community if it existed and didn't suck?
Major hypothetical there, I know.
Any drawfags or creative people should have left this place long ago. Raildex in /a/ is nothing but a husk that crawls out if its grave every few months for the next LN volume only to get kicked back in immediately because it's NT.
All we have left are the based scanlators and that's it. Hell, I'd even include that one guy who made the meme version of frenda's railgun chapters simply because it was one of the only original things to come out of here in a while.
I wouldn't mind doing scanlations, but we already have people on those. I guess there's still quite a bit of fan stuff out there, so I can translate if someone's willing to typeset.
As far as I can tell the picture comes in one place off the internet and I didn't change the filename.
>Raildex creative community
You're posting in it, albeit a shell of its former glory.
That's why he's close to having a yandere instead of has one. He also doesn't have to feel the love in the actions. She just has to imagine there is some on her part. From a Touma perspective( if he had realized she liked him) he already has a yandere.
The thing is, if she hadn't lost her powers it straight up wouldn't matter if everyone left her alone or not, unless she somehow knew about Kakeru and is biding her time until both the magic gods and he are gone.
Mugino handles that pretty well.
>with a yandere you can feel the love in every action
in all honesty i think shes ok with not using her powers primarily out of lack of fucks to give. i bet its not even hiding or any such shit, its simply she couldn't give enough of a rats ass to just magick shit and actually enjoys the touma pampering and fighting a cat, i legitimately believe she would probably walk around as normal all the time as long as index/touma/anyone she knows is nearby.
Not him but I don't think we even have raws for that, just random bits here and there. Pic related is one pic of a whopping two I've seen past the first chapter we already got.
Why is Misaka so unbelievably perfect?
How can the other girls compete?
I don't think she'd care. She acts like a human for the most part but we have to remember she's been through much more than Touma has ever experienced in that infinite hell world loop. Her cup was already full and those loops Touma experienced were just the few drops that caused it to overflow.
She already got what she wanted so I really don't see her getting jealous as long as she gets to stay with the guy who understands her. Living the same everyday, normal life that Touma enjoys. As long as you don't take that away, I don't think she gives a fuck. She's never shown any jealousy about Index despite Touma living with her for a long time. Her jealousy would be amusing to see though.
its not like shes an actual semen demon or any such shit in history.
seriously she had some fucked hobbies running around as odin, i imagine her walking around at normal height doing odin shit isn't anywhere near the top of the list for reasons why she doesn't want touma googling her.
Because I want more detective in my life.
Did you read NT9? Touma didn't really "hold her off" she was using him and his actions to make her decision on what to do. Even if she's obsessed with him and not just faking it she can just corrupt him afterwards when Kakeru is gone.
>Implying it won't be just Kakeru sperging about harems again
That said, I really hope Aogami doesn't go to that all girl's school so he can get pissed at Kamisato for having a harem but rejecting it.
Which is why Touma is going to help him through it.
If anything, I expect more meta talks between Kamisato and Touma about how similar their characters and situations are which is what they'll bond over.
Look I like Kamisato, but I can't really see him just bonding with Touma so easily when they're pretty much complete opposites and got his arm eaten by some demon thing in Touma's arm. If he was a reasonable guy he wouldn't have the attitudes he does about the magic gods and his harem so staunchly.
If she has her powers as it is, she has nothing to lose from trying. Possible scenario is she got the magic god powers, but rather than being a failure like HP said, she noticed the magic gods but decided to try and kill them off instead by winning over the Imagine Breaker and waiting for the other Magic Gods to die off, either because she knew they would cause something like WR to bloom or she saw him herself.
I don't think this is true, but it's interesting to think about.
He'd be a bit more bitter than he already is, though. Especially if she's attractive and has a nice personality, neither of which is shown by the girls currently following him.
Random stuff off Pixiv or doujinshi, I guess. They also have an entire Japanese fanfiction community but I don't know if any of it's any good.
Technically I could do most of that by myself but I can't accomplish anything without people around me since I'm a failure at most things.
I haven't actually read any of Kamachi's other stuff other than the Simple Survey series, not sure how well that would turn out.
Like you said, you can do most of that on your own, I occasionally typeset stuff I see dropped on here when people translate it, but it's not fantastic. I still do it because why the hell not, same thing applies here just do it rather than waffle about whether it'll be good or not.
>Kamijou remembered the look in Kamisato’s eyes as the boy glanced back over his shoulder just before leaving.
>The boy had been holding his unnaturally limp right arm and leaving on unsteady feet without a stable center of gravity.
>Before, his eyes had contained a lukewarm look directed at the boy he thought was the same as him, but that had been decisively excised. And Kamijou could understand why.
Kamisato could possibly be fucking terrified of Touma. Whatever they talk about on school will be fun.
I imagine either Touma will open with saying sorry or something and Kamisato will get pissed or Kamisato will look skittish and Othinus will make fun of him which will get him annoyed. Either way it opens into actual conversation which is good but I don't think it'll start off normally unless Kamisato really trusts that Touma won't start shit in school.
>Othinus will make fun of him
The idea of a powerless fairy trash talking a guy who can kill even magic gods with a wave of his hand amuses me. Probably because she knows Touma's there and would try to stop the fight that would break out so she has license to shit talk.
At first, the absurdity of the whole Othinus ordeal sounded weird. Now it's just funny. Especially with things like “Why are you shouting into the mirror? Is it time for your tranquilizer?” when she was the one responsible for mind breaking him and now she's making jokes about his sanity. Dark comedy.
That and she shows a pretty weak side often despite the trash talking and the poking fun at him. It's hard to seriously fear or respect someone who constantly has to hide in your scarf from a cat or falls into honey dishes.
I assume they were incredibly negative, righfully so since that arc in general was awful.
I've only bothered to check the archive for old translation threads of previous volumes. The thing that surprised me the most was the amount of hate shiage received.
>“What, did you kill and bury Kamisato somewhere? I am a god of magic, strategy, and deception. Did you really think I would be bothered by that?”
She's making a joke about Touma killing people when she made him reject a world where people came back to life and were happy. Othinus just doesn't give a fuck. Touma doesn't either since he can talk about the infinite hell and magic gods jokingly now. Panty hell and High Priest's greatest hits. I'm hoping Kamachi pulls some jokes from that infinite hell since anything could have happened in it.
>getting beaten my a middle school girl that learned to pilot a mecha overnight
They weren't even villians, clowns is a more fitting word.
As much as I want a Zashiki adaptation I'm worried they'd put Nagai in charge and he'd change Enbi into a lesbian with one of her middle school friends or something horrible like that.
>Not loving your MISAKA perflat
You sicken me.
So, how is a certain overly attached fairy going to ruin Touma's school time?
Also shouldn't Touma be quite famous thanks to el Presidente? Entire world has seen him hugging a cute super terrorist, he should be some kind of celebrity or at least a dank meme now.
some students have already seen him walking with a doll sitting on his shoulders talking to it
Soon the rumors will spread of a spiky haired boy saving and punching people and runs around at night with a blonde 15cm doll on his shoulder
No. Read vol 21 again. It's not that he couldn't reflect them, but rather his reflection was imperfect and was getting worse.
The problem was that Telesma eats into his reflection. It destroys his AIM, or at the very least, the effect his Personal Reality has over the area it covers. Remember the difference between Telesma and Magic Power. Telesma dyes the world it touches in its own colors. Its effects have "priority" over AIM.
Also, that's not how Accelerator's choker works. You don't "overclock" it to get more processing power.
You mean the hidden demon of academy city that beats up anyone that doesnt agree with him while they are corrupted without mercy by his ventrilloquist doll? That man is a monster and has to be stopped.
Who should voice Othi-chan in Index 6?
Haimura doesn't even draw her flat, so I have no idea where this meme comes from. The joke is that she's normal for her age, but insecure about it because she's always surrounded by exceptional titty monsters. Leave it to 4chan to miss that bit of nuance, though.