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This is a vampire loli
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>>139652015
Why yes, she is one.
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Is that Nancy from Ninja Slayer?
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>>139652015
Her loli form is better desu.
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ill fucken fap to that shit.
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>>139653777
Turn your head 90 degrees to the right and look at the picture again
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>>139653777
>(Sorry I'm new here)
Leave
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>>139653777
This is bait. No one can be this retarded. Also, what a waste of good trips.
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>>139652015
Shame the scan quality is shit
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>>139652015
>This is a vampire NTRED loli

NO Thanks
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If Eva ends up with Touta I'll be pissed.
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>liked UQ
>still wanted more Negima
>the more Negima elements UQ adds the more I lose interest in both

Kinda strange
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>>139654835
Me too. Here's what i feel about UQ.
UQ Holder was interesting because it was the adventures of immortals in the new world of magic. Exploring immortality and it's types, investigating events and generally "exploring" the new world.
The last chapters just changed to trying to give true closure to negima
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>>139654835
Chapters until the tournament related things were decent.
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>>139654602
>NTR
what?
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>>139654621
that'd be fucking ridiculous
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>>139652015
Ruined it
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>>139653777
>I like her boobs
Worst thing you wrote in that post.
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>>139652015
Bullshit, I see no fangs there.
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>>139655639
She was NTRed away from current MC by previous MC.
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>>139656284
b-but Ken Amakatsura wouldn't do that in one of his mangos
right?
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>>139652015
>Fake tits

Disgusting
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>>139656284
isnt it the other way around?
very important, deciding whether i am going to read this
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>>139656909
No she is a slut so Current MC was NTRing her from previous MC but then he confessed like a faggot and she decided to keep the previous MCs cock.
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>>139654621
I agree because US Eva is a massive shit and the other girls in Touta's harem are way better
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>>139652015
How can she be a loli if she looks like a woman?
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>>139652015
Can we get her back to being a loli?
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>>139657142
Magic.
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>>139657142
>>139657142
shes over 700 years old, her body stil 10.

the aged look is just a magic illusion
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>>139656375
Magical tits =\= Fake tits
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Do we get a chapter this week?
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>>139658300
Yeah.
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>>139658414
What happens this chapter, will we finally meet Chao?
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>>139658586
There is no Chao, this is a fan speculation which doesn't even make sense. RAW: http://raw.senmanga.com/UQ_Holder!/118/1

Summary

About what Zazie said, “a person with the same kind of power”, it is Touta’s “imotou” KATORASU/cutlass (self-proclaimed)
Touta is only at a disadvantage when it comes to the time needed for the activation conditions, but it is a “win who activates first”
to aim for that chance, until that moment it is nothing but a head-to-head race

(watching) Touta, who wins his match and advances to the next round, at different place, Zazie sends her blessing to Kiriwe
–a kiss is the activation key for the special power
–the degree how strong the feelings for your partner became, you decided to make it more stable and powerful
–that you could love a human for the first time, I ought to congratulate you for this
preferably you should become close, when Zazie says this, Ikkuu also gives his support
by the way, in Touta’s plan there is the need for someone who does the recovery and someone who does the sealing, however
thereupon Zazie summons and hands over in a swing the Konoe Twins who she captured previously

■Honoka & Isana…. to continue in issue 20!


Starting next chapter UQ Holder chapter will now have 18 pages instead of 16.
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>>139658971
Wait does that mean that the group that made Touta worked for the Mage of Beginning? How deep is this rabbit hole?
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>>139659100
Maybe.
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>>139656909
Just read it. Don't bother with nostalgiafags.
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>>139656909
It's a double NTR.
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>>139657037
>Being so mad he type US Eva
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>>139662005
Just ignore him.
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>>139652015
At least post the link OP.

http://www.shencomics.com/archives/1624357
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Why does Imouto look like she needs a Sleep Master bed?
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>>139664347
Because she does. If she also a Negi clone why can she stop time? Was there someone in his harem with an ability like that?
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>>139664347
She just need loving figure in her life, Just like Touta pre-yukihime.
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Could Ikkuu really love Kirie after all?
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>>139664347
She needs the D.
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>>139664407
Only Chao. Thinking about it imouto also used Asuna's sword at one point, maybe she is a clone made with genetic material of al the members of class 3-A and that is why she thinks of Touta as a lesser product, he only has DNA of one girl while she has it of of 20+.
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>>139665893
Chao's ability to time travel was thanks to an item, though, she does not inherently have the ability to manipulate time.

>Thinking about it imouto also used Asuna's sword at one point

That was a replica, it was not the original.
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So you gonna dump?
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>Murder imouto has time stop
Fuck off. But I suppose having Kirie is also cheat-mode.
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>>139667445
Waiting on mega-anon to upload proper scans.
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>>139652015
GRANNY EVA A BEST
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Guys, why don't they just fucking freeze time and go kill what's her face and all the rest of the dudes standing in their way?

Why hasn't the enemy just done that?

This time freezing shit is so fucking stupid. There's literally no reason for them to not just abuse the fuck out of right this very second.
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>>139668292
???
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>>139668663
Because Cutlass (what a dumb name) probably wants Touta to suffer and feel despair, so killing him in stopped time won't be satisfying. Plus if she kills Kirie, it'll do absolutely nothing since she will just go back to her save point.
As for the good guys, where are they supposed to look? Do you expect Touta and Kirie to scour the whole of Earth and Mars (keep in mind they cant even fly) to find MOTB and Cutlass? They don't have any leads, except that something is going to happen in the tournament.
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>>139669263
Dude, they're immortal and they can stop time with no repercussions. Why the fuck wouldn't they just do that? They have a literal eternity to figure out where they are.

Also, they could just take Kirie, freeze her, and launch her in a random direction into space. I'm sure they have some kind of stasis magic that would keep her alive indefinitely.

Better yet, just do it for all the immortals except Touta if you really want to cause suffering.

This is the most broken mechanic and completely ruins any kind of tension the series can have. There's no reason for a training arc anymore. There's no sense of urgency because the literally have all the time in the world to think up a solution to something. What the fuck was Ken thinking?
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>>139669794
>Dude, they're immortal and they can stop time with no repercussions.
We don't know that. Cutlass is not immortal too.
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>>139669966
They already stopped time for weeks or months. There hasn't been a hint of any kind of draw back. No one has even said something like "wow, maybe you shouldn't just use that power all the time since we don't know what could happen".

There is no reason for them to not just freeze time and brute force all this shit.

In fact, knowing that their enemy has the same ultimate fucking power of freezing mother fucking TIME, they're insane to NOT have stopped time until they figured out a game plan for cutlass. They literally have no defense against it.
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>>139652015
Vampire cake onee-san>>>the heavens>>>the stars>>>the outer solar system>>>the moon>>>the atmosphere>>>vampire loli.
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118 up on mega
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>>139669794
Kirie has a cyanide pill in her tooth. Even if she somehow gets frozen by sleep or petrification or some time dilation (which she likely already has countermeasures for since she almost certainly has a fair idea of what can actually neutralise her), EVENTUALLY she'll be cured (there are immortals all over the world after all), so afterwards she can just reload.
And how are enemies supposed to figure out she has both time-stop AND save-reset? The first you might be able to discern from inexplicable teleportation after a kiss, but it is impossible to spot the second power as an observer.
Besides, Cutlass stated that it's only because Touta was dumb enough to go away from the island that she tried to kill him. There's probably some people she just can't handle.
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>>139670145
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>There is no reason for them to not just freeze time and brute force all this shit.
It would make for a boring story, and waste too much time.
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>>139671141
Thanks anon.
Dropping.
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>>139671253
>Cutlass
Imouto's name is really Cutlass.

Wow that's kinda said, I bet she wants to kill Touta because he got the good name while she got stuck with the stupid one.
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>>139671537
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>>139671401
>>139671492
Imouto is really broken.
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>>139671879
>Or is it?
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>>139671938
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>>139671879
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>>139671879
Aaaaaaand saved.
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>>139671985
And done.
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>>139671995
its truly glorious
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>>139671879
Kuro has to step up. Kirie's been grabbing the spotlight lately.
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>>139672031
>I found these imoutos, please take good care of them
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>>139672031
Imouto harem, Ken. Do it.
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>>139671693
>They now have the right to challenge the king!
Incoming.
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>>139672166

Bah, I doubt we'd be that lucky
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>>139671879
At this rate Kirie might end up as the main girl, really she has so many flags lately.

Also that face is just perfect.
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>>139672166
By this point shouldn't this guy be literally unbeatable?
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>>139672031
Zazie is the best mentor, she is even feeding the harem.
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>>139672031
And they just accept this? Just like that?
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>>139672166
>Based Jack soon

If only anon. If only.
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>>139672377
Well they do want Touta to work with them. This would be a good opportunity for them to get him on their side. Plus they get to be with their onii-san
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>>139672377
Touta wants to save Negi, and they want to save Negi too.
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>>139672377
I know right? Sounds like asspull.
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>>139672377
They don't really have much else to do since Fate hijacked their ride back home.
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>>139671492
>people
>dying for real in Negima
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>>139672670
Ain't they Fate's goon?

>>139671985
Does this idiot finally realize Kirie is in love with him?
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>>139672758
>Ain't they Fate's goon?

Yeah, and Fate took their space ship and left them naked in the ocean.
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>>139672377
>>139672618
Do you really want every exposition to be blatantly said in your face? Just wait for the next chapter explanation.
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>>139672758
>>Does this idiot finally realize Kirie is in love with him?
Yes, look at him just suddenly realize that they are talking about them dating. He just need one more push to get that Kirie likes him,and then you will see him blushing when he thinks about how he normally treats Kirie.

>>139672827
>>Yeah, and Fate took their space ship and left them naked in the ocean.
Fate is a horrible boss.
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>>139671732
>>139671779
>>139671831
>>139671879
>>139671938
>>139671985
Kirie is Best!
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>>139671985
>page has a cute pantyshot
>everyone focuses on the awesome face
The power of Kirie
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>>139671267
That's really the problem though. The only reason they don't do it is because it'd wreck the plot.

So why even bother introducing this dumb ass mechanic at all?
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>>139671985
JUST FUCK ALREADY
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>>139670145
Not everyone can move when time is stopped, only Touta and Kirie, it's pretty inconvenient. The power still has some mystery too.
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>>139671985
>She will be irrelevant, they said.
>Touta doesn't care about Kirie, they said.
>Besides Kitty, only Karin has a real chance, they said.

BTFO.

Kirie will win the Touta bowl.
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>>139674304
Kirie won

All is well in the world
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>>139671693
>Santa doesn't even fight
>Still irrelevant

I'll be back to bitch about Santa irrelevance next week.
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Kirie is really starting to annoy me with her denial.
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>>139674375
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>>139674487
>Kirie is really starting to annoy me with her denial
Being this much in denial
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>>139674304
>She will be irrelevant, they said.
>Touta doesn't care about Kirie, they said.
No one ever said that. Of course when she has the ability to stop time if she kisses him she will be relevant.
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>>139652015
MUH DICK.
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>>139674515
Denial about what?
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>>139672377
Ken is basically winging it at this point
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>>139674820
>Denial about what?
>Being in denial about his denial
Such is the way of those who denial
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>>139671349
>yfw Eva is the enemy
Pottery.
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Was Zazie Negi's lover after all? She seems more determined than all the other. In UQH she is much more important too.
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>>139671349
Needs to be cleaned up
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>>139674505
Santa is too overpowered and thus can't fight.
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>>139674304
Yes she will, believe in the tsun!
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>>139677552
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I dropped this shit the moment Kuromaru transformed into a genderless again after being a women. I'm still mad about that shit. Wtf was the author thinking? He threw away all development for nothing.
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>>139675054
>In UQH she is much more important too
Literally the only reason for that is because Akamatsu wanted to give her an arc in Negima, but couldn't because of the premature ending. It's the same to a lesser extent with Mana.
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>>139678350
I am pretty sure he had confirmed that the series would be close to the end if Zazie were to become relevant, and she became more relevant near the end. She is not the only girl who didn't get an arc.
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>>139678275
Author stopped thinking about the same time he began to milk Negimafags with the boring leftover stuff.
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Zazie is such a tease. I wish we had seen more of this Zazie in Negima.
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>>139674304
>Kirie will win the Touta bowl.
Maybe for the duration of her pathetic faux-immortal lifespan. Which will only happen in the first place if they get stuck in the timestop until Kirie grows old and died so Touta can get some more timeskip maturity.
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>its a Naru-type girl gets flustered at thought of being a couple episode
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>>139671779
>>139671938
>Those little Ikku scenes
He loves her doesn't he.
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>loli gets aged-up image change so she can be the main love interest
>the most loli girl wins

How weird would that be? Just from an introspective standpoint?
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>>139678570
It's no secret that Akamatsu wanted to write another 20 volumes of Negima, and he's said giving Zazie a more prominent role was part of that. There were other underdeveloped characters, yes, but how many of them could still be alive 80 years in the future?
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>>139678935
Jah.
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>>139678839
It's already been established that Kirie doesn't age. She's not psuedo-immortal, she's straight up unaging with her time reset to prevent accidental deaths/murders.
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>>139679001
>It's no secret that Akamatsu wanted to write another 20 volumes of Negima

>referring to the author when you're talking about yourself
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>want Eva, Kirie and Karin to win and be happy with the Toutabowl
>hate actual harems
Oh goddamnit
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>>139678935
Poor cuck. :^(
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>>139679110
Do you even know why Negima stopped? Cause it doesn't seem like you do.
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>>139679127
Karin is a lesbo and has zero chance nor motivation to win the Totabowl
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>>139678839
She doesn't age idiot.
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>>139679203
Because the author didn't want to do it?
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>>139652015
that's no loli
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>>139678589
I'm glad to hear this series hasn't improved at. Now I won't waste my time catching up. This shit was already on the verge of being dropped when literally every girl in the series fell in love with Touta out of nowhere. The women in this manga are all shallow whores. Also, I hope that annoying bitch Kirie is dead. I'll pick it back up just to see her death.. Annoying little slut.
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>>139679080
Yes, because Kirie looks like a 4 year old.
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>>139656909
It's reverse backwards double NTR.
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>>139679332
What happened to our GRITTY MANLY manga full of GRUFF RUGGED MANLY MEN and contests of PURE MANHOOD?
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>>139679349
>you will never save Kirie
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>>139679349
Isn't she like 80 already?
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>>139679332

Actually it got worse.
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>>139679349
>And I'm going to look like a little girl for all eternity.

We've had this discussion before. It seems like Kirie had an aging plateau akin to Negi's. She aged for a bit and then stopped. Otherwise how would she reach the death of the earth due to solar expansion as discussed in Dana's world?
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>>139679415
>you will never be such shitty parents that your kid develops super powers to cope
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>>139679349
She has eternal youth
Uq holders have a minimum of Eternal youth alongside whatever their immortality is.
And she's already stated to be quite older than some
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>>139679401
>I've never read an Akamatsu manga before and am disappointed that it didn't turn out how I wanted
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>>139679627
Just the fact that she aged at all means her immortality will be BTFO long before the quadrillions of years Touta and Karin are gonna chill through.

Off topic but this line is straight up retarded because Yukihime's non-drug form looks younger than her.
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>>139679672
Yes and?
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>you now realize that Kirie in her desperation will pop age pills to seduce Touta
>she will look like Naru and/or Chisame
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>>139679401
The writing feels a lot less inspired. There was barely any romance in the start too. I remember the MU tag used to just be "romantic subplot".
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>>139679797
Where did this guy go?
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Kill the protagonist from the last manga already and go back to fighting liches and spooky monsters.
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was it revealed who won da negi?
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>>139679840

Written out just like the rest of these character that haven't appeared yet.
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>>139679995
It's whoever you want it to be. That's why he started the new manga with a single main girl. Well, he tried, and. well. . yeah.
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>>139674304
Who is the moron saying Karin has a real chance?

Are they morons? There is now way in hell /u/ bait character ever win.
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>>139679995
Lifemaker-chan
Not even joking
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>>139680071
So 3 more?
And I'm pretty sure that fine-looking kid in the jacket is a vampire
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>>139680071
>tries to make a good manga
>gets 90 chapters in
>htrhy5y54y54ytrhw0gerg0uj324#@%$
>hand starts involuntarily drawing harems

Ken's curse. At least he got farther this time.
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>>139680104
She's in a unhappy marriage and will get infinite loved by the dark-haired guy like in josei manga.
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>>139680101
That's actually true. You can search in the archive, if you want.
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>>139680101
Karen has less of a chance of winning and more of a chance of being attached as an addon to the relationship most likely to happen.
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>>139679040
>>139679192
First Touta and now Ikku, all the males will be called cucks before this series end.
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Did he change magazines along the way because earlier UQ was pretty raw.
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>>139679840
He will probably be in the tournament.
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>>139679797
Wow. Back when this manga actually showed promise. It was just best buds Touta and Kuromaru back then. No shitty harem or Negima leeching/milking.
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>>139680314

Either he or his editor decided to go full Negima because of sales. At least that's my guess.
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>>139679559
I'm not surprised. Hope this trash never gets animated.
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>>139680314
It's still raw, the problem is that there has not been a serious deadly fight for a while. Look at Touta vs Dana or when he fought his imouto.
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>>139680458
All he's doing is stripping people though. Think about how much stuff you can do with the immortality concept. "Slapstick harem" comedy could even be improved. Girls could literally be decapitating him or shit. Like that tug of war a few chapters back could've been funny if they had ripped his arms off because his harem is strong as shit.
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>>139680378
>Wow. Back when this manga actually showed promise.
Tell me about it. I remember when people used to recommend NOT reading Negima beforehand because the series worked so well standalone.
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>>139672377
It's the law of conquest, poyo
Not!Setsuna hasn't exactly accepted it anyway.

>>139671455
>>139671492
Remember when people threw bitchfits that Asuna was overpowered just for having 50% anti-magic?
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>>139678275
He was better as a fuccboi but they've even dropped that, since he's now entering the female bathes etc etc.
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>Nostalgiafags shitting on UQH
>UQH readers shitting on it because Negima
Are there the same people or something? This fanbase is a mess.
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Does murder imouto have twintails now?
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>>139680738
Do this >>139671349 please
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>>139680810
You can read it as a standalone. Might be better indeed.
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>>139671455
When will Touta become cool again? The hoolahoop is the faggiest weapon i swear.
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>>139680922
I'm a reader who hasn't read Negima and recently it's really lost a lot of my enthusiasm with all that stuff. I hope it returns to being good standalone but the direction it's headed is worrisome.
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>>139680738
It would have gotten boring though, like Ban in NNT.
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>>139680738
>Girls abuse immortal male lead past the point of ryona
So basically Love Hina?
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>>139680922
As a standalone all the Negi stuff just reads like mysterious background lore, which plenty of other shonen implement anyways.
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>>139680889
Basically negima ruins everything is the conclusion you should draw.

The plot as it stands now is Negima enough to draw in the people going "Why isn't this Negima?!" without realizing it literally isn't, and then UQH fans don't want the main plotline to be this heavily connected to the previous series because there's a very clear thematic shift in the recent dozen or so chapters.
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>>139680968
Well the harem antics haven't even been around for that long.

And Ban got boring because the author got a giant boner for them midway and edged them into a better story than the protagonists.
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>>139680314
It started to change post-Santa.

I guess Santa's arc is unpopular? Too edgy maybe.
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>>139671349
What is the symbolism in this chapter title picture?
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It's Akamatsu's fault for killing Negima unsatisfactorily and then wanting to go back to it without calling it "Negima 2". Having a few recurring characters would be one thing, but as it stands UQ Holder almost completely squanders its potentially interesting initial setup about immortals to just do Negima again with the Lifemaker and having to save the MC's relative from possession because both plot points were shafted when Negima was cut short and Akamatsu clearly wanted to develop them instead.
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>>139681125
More like: too shitty, to be honest.
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>>139679203
Ken himself said he was burned out by the end of Negima, even with that copyright shit going on.

He also explained his reasons for including Negima, and it's not wanting to continue it.
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>>139681125
Santa's arc was pretty shitty in general. It didn't help that Kirie was our walking dues ex machina plot device just waiting to reset everything.

Hell she still is.
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>>139681060
>The plot as it stands now is Negima enough to draw in the people going "Why isn't this Negima?!" without realizing it literally isn't
UQH is basically holding Negima's ending hostage.

If/when UQH just throws up it's hands and says "UQH's ending is at the end of Negima have fun reading through all the shit you don't care about for a conclusion" you would be griping too.
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>>139681189
He got burnt out in the last 6 months or so and fell back on a preexisting canon. He should just take a hiatus. Weekly manga is hard.
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>>139681221
>holding Negima's ending hostage.
The hostages are dead and nobody bothered to go in with the tear-gas until chapter 100.
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>>139680152
He's a noble, it was said back in chapter 4 or 5.
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>>139681174
What are you implying?
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>>139679281
>Because the author didn't want to do it?

The publishers were lobbying for a new law that would have let them steal partial ownership of all manga copyrights of things made after the change, and they ignored all the manga authors objecting to this.

So he ended Negima quick, so that he'd retain full ownership no matter what.
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>>139681221
No, you know Negima's ending.
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>>139681328
But what about this>>139681213
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>>139681213
He seriously just needs to take a sabbatical for a year or 2. He's already gotten burnt out on UQ and just defaulted into "gotta make a deadline" type chapters.
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>>139681377
Source?
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Can we stop the Negima/UQH war and talk about the actual chapter?
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>>139681328
Show me your source?
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>>139681290
Negi's grave with Touta calling him grandfather was at the beginning of chapter 1 and Negima stated he was immortal and couldn't reproduce. It was obvious something was going to be done with it from day one, although the sheer extent of the connection/"holding the ending hostage" has got just bigger and bigger since.
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>>139671492
I see another JoJo reference here
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>>139681406
observation
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>>139681406
Ignore them.
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>>139681328
I used to defend Akamatsu for this back then, but he's literally the only person who ever talked or cared about this. You would think other manga authors would've taken a stand if it was a real issue, and nothing came out of it since Akamatsu just went back to Kodansha anyway. Seems to me he jumped the gun hardcore.
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>>139681437
>I mean my ass, sorry.
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>>139681421
he's a clone we've known that for like years now. It took what, like 10 chapters to find that out?
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>>139681474
Go reread from the beginning. After the Dana arc is a big pace change and feels a lot more similar to Ken's previous works.
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>>139674304
>Naruchisamegawa 4.0 Demands Haitus is winning!
Stop the fucking presses
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>When UQ first came out people were crying about muh Negima
>Now that UQ has gone full Negima people hate it

I can't tell if the Negimafags have just quieted down or if they all finally realized Negima in UQ was a bad idea.
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>>139681316
Maybe Yukihime is evil and also fucking someone because she has 2 toothbrushes?
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>>139681476
>Implying anyone can remember UQ Holders shitty plot
I had someone a few threads back throwing a fit and calling me a liar for saying Touta was only a few years old.
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>>139681476
Yeah, but it could've been something simple like "someone wanted to make a clone of Negi because he was an extremely powerful mage and wanted to replicate him to conquer the world so Eva saved him and hid him", which would've been mostly detached from Negima while still having references. Instead we got the same exact plot with the Lifemaker and Negi in Nagi's place.
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>>139681545
My favorite part of Negima was when he fought the Basilisk in the chamber of secrets.
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>>139681507
It got better starting from that arc. The main difference between the two is that UQH is more action oriented. There are always had harem elements with Kuromaru and stuff.
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>>139681545
>implying that's a problem of UQ and not stupid anons

Majority of people in these threads can't remember fuck all from Negima either.
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>>139681507
I don't know, I didn't read Negima.
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>>139681574
I doubt Ken even though of the reason for him being cloned until later anyways. I agree that a clone for the sake of muh power would've been way better.
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>>139681537
Same people, different approach.
>>139681574
>someone wanted to make a clone of Negi because he was an extremely powerful mage and wanted to replicate him to conquer the world so Eva saved him and hid him
But it was exactly that?
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>>139672031
"Here's two loli, use them as you see fit."
Why is Zazie so based?
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>Love Hina starts out a comedy manga with light undertones of romance
>ends up a harem

>Negima starts out a slice of life magical school manga
>end up a battle shounen with full blown harem

>UQ starts out magic shounen manga
>ends up a harem

Can Ken not write something that doesn't end up a harem?
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>>139681587
Such bait. Kuromaru was literally a man/hermaphrodite and Kirie was just barely on the harem outskirts. He only got the harem recently.
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>>139681541
I think it's the house she shared with Touta so the other one should be his toothbrush. That or she faps with the second one.
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>>139681653
>implying it's not both
Using the same toothbrush cup is t-t-too l-lewd!
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>>139681643
You gotta admit he got really far this time.
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>>139681373

>>139681213 here here's my source if you guys want it:

https://youtu.be/IA6k0H4lvT4?t=3m34s
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>>139681643
As long as it doesn't start with harem, I'm okay with it.
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>>139681648
Both had a thing for him though, Kuromaru even says he has loved him for a long time in a chapter, he was just in denial. There was Eva bait too but it got explored later.
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How long till Touta goes back in time and sires Nagi?
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>>139681707
Nah I already know about that. What I want to know is what about this>>139681213
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>>139681720
Yeah but 2 people (1 male) having "a thing" is a far-cry from a harem. Yukihime is a love interest but not a harem participant, even if that sounds like a weird distinction.
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>>139681747
Not him but it's true, a video was posted a few months ago. If you search well on youtube you can find it.
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Does anyone else feel like even if Negima is coming on too strong Fate's presence still makes the manga better?

I won't be happy if Ken shits on his development, though.
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>>139681643
>U Love Negima
>starts out a magical teenage battle harem centered in a hotel
>ends up alone, with no powers and homeless
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>>139681808
My dad's friend works at Akamatsu Ken's office and he told me that UQH is all the dream that Takamichi Takahata has while his wife Asuna cooks him breakfast in bed.
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>>139681619
>But it was exactly that?
No, Eva saved him so he could eventually be used to get rid of the Lifemaker by killing Negi. Either way, it's more complicated and deeply connected to Negima than it needed to be. I try thinking about how it'd be to read UQ Holder for someone who didn't read Negima and there would be way too much stuff that's simply glossed over or difficult to appreciate since it actively takes focus away from the UQ Holder original cast (so you'd just get annoyed if you didn't have an attachment to Negima characters). A more tenuous connection would've allowed the series to better express the potential of its original cast and actually do more original plotlines.
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>>139681747
>link video as my source

>no I know but where's the source for this?

Are you retarded?
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>>139681774
But that's how harem start. The girls get interested in a character and it turns into love. I find it better handled than in Negima because there are not too much characters adn although it can slow don the pace a lot,it is nowhere near as bad as in Negima, with a lot of irrelevant girls who were getting the spotlight for pointless love stories, and the MC has an actual love interest this time. If Akamatsu had spent less time on this in Negima the ending would have probably been satisfying.
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>>139681916
Eva didn't want Touta anywhere near the lifemaker for years. She's only come around to letting him fight recently.
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>>139681878
Asuna married Takamichi-sensei in then end? I only read the first volume, I'm glad they got together though.
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>>139681916
She said she didn't save him for that, and he is not the only clone.
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>>139681968
I don't trust Eva's words but I guess we still don't know enough about the circumstances around her saving Touta. Still, that's beside the point I was making of the Negima connections being too strong for the series' own good.
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>>139681964
That the harem began after Touta already made clearly he was in love with Eva is the weirdest thing though. What's the point of it? Unless he ends up settling with someone other than Eva.
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>>139681968
>Eva wants to defeat lifemaker to save Negi
>yfw it's actually primarily to save Touta from his "purpose", whatever that maybe

kek. first love retcons are awesome.
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>>139682080
I can't see it happening unless Eva is being set up to die.
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>>139682043
No. Asuna is now the sleeping beauty, Takahata ended with the hot teacher presumably.
>>139682048
I don't think Negima is that important, Negi is used for Touta the same way Nagi was used for Negi. The awesome parent you need to match/surpass, Touta has far more drive though. The plot with the Lifemaker doesn't matter much, we know he won and became her vessel. The one mystery is who is the one he loved.
>>139682080
Harem always seem useless but with Kuromaru it would have been a love triangle at least.
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>>139682128
They will die together.
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This talk is kinda funny because Ken asked at the JP Expo in France if people preferred action or romance, opinions were divided but the majority approved when he asked if they would like both at the same time.
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>>139682232
>pretends she doesn't know and urban legend about her own fucking inn

Nice try.
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>>139682232
I'd settle for a "linked in an eternal coitus in a timestop" ending.
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>>139682172
>Harem always seem useless but with Kuromaru it would have been a love triangle at least.
It was sorta useless in Love Hina since it was obvious from chapter 1 that Naru would win, although harem hijinks were used to develop the other girls so it was ultimately fine. Same for Negima where it was never clear if Negi was even interested in anyone and kissing tied into the pactio system so the harem elements were used to power the characters up (except for the ones who never got pactios, but they weren't too many), although the huge ending troll about Negi's lover was annoying (and I'm not sure it'll be resolved in UQ Holder either). In UQ Holder, it honestly feels tacked on and somewhat of a "falling back into old habits" kinda thing. This development with Kirie right now is interesting if it won't be backpedaled and Kuromaru liking Touta was actually going somewhere to further his gender identity issue, but then status quo won out.
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>>139682048
Her actions spoke for themselves, no need to trust her words.
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>>139682374
In Negima it was too annoying, all these girls and their drama, Ako's story especially. Characters who were not even fighters got involved with no deaths at all.
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>>139681470
Digging a bit for old articles summarizing it, he also had the author of Ippo backing him.

It was safe to go back after the bill was definitely dead and his publisher knew he wasn't bluffing. And you know he must have had a fair amount of pull in that negotiation for them to 1) take him back pretty quickly, and 2) let him do UQH instead of just directly resuming Negima.

>>139681213
That's just the reconciliatory stuff he said after so the publisher could save a little face. It doesn't pass serious scrutiny after looking at what he did: started UQH really soon after (so he wasn't tired of manga in general), with a few ultra long chapters (so we *really* know he wasn't tired of drawing), in the same setting (so we know he didn't actually dislike the setting), as a battle manga (so we know he didn't dislike the part of Negima he'd been neck deep in before the copyright law proposal). I could try to argue it was only the harem part he didn't like, but that doesn't work either, because his epilogue left the big battles offscreen and focused on the girls.
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>>139682473
Yeah, Ako's drama interrupting Negi vs Rakan was bullshit.
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>>139671492
Did she kill Touta's parents?
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>>139682473
We never did learn about Ako's scar.
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i want a cute imouto.
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>>139682497
You're just making assumptions with no basis besides your own observation. He never even said he was tired of drawing manga, he specifically said he got burnt out from drawing Negima for 9 years. The same world is not the same thing as the same setting. UQ and Negima have very different settings and cast.

Not only that, his author's note in the final volume mentions he felt like after the movie he should end Negima.

I'm not saying the copyright stuff didn't play some part, but don't dismiss what he himself says because it doesn't make sense in your little conspiracy. Ken has always honestly spoken out about what he believes.
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There is something what still bothers me.
Was she able to get her father's D?
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>>139671879
Kiri is winning the Touta bowl
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>>139674304
>hair is orange

would ken make his fucking mind up already
is she blonde or redhead
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>>139652015
Who's this semen demon?
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>>139682914
>Tfw when you made this shit nearly a decade ago as a joke and it still gets posted on /a/
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>>139685357
Kirie's hair color spontaneously gets closer to Naru's the closer she gets to winning the Toutabowl.
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>>139684446
>We have countless doujins of Asuna getting fucked by faceless boys or shotanegi and none of Yuuna trying to get with her father.
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>I am still around and will be until the end to see Negi only

I feel like I will be the salt embodiment by the end of this series. Why the fuck was it advertised as a sequel to Negima. God damn.
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>>139687101
You aren't alone.
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>>139687101
>>139687175
You are pathetic.
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>>139673089
Power of flat butt
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>>139680104
No anon, Lifemaker chan will win the Toutabowl.
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>>139680924
When he makes hoops of energy and basically becomes a solar system.
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>>139681861
Fate is cool because he is an asshole and his face is punchable. I really hope Touta saves Negi without his help.
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>>139687101

I never even cared about Negi. Especially after Negima went full shonen shit in the second half of MW arc. Negima was great when it was a balanced story about many characters. When it started focusing only on Negi after he went SSJ it turned to shit. And sales reflected that.

UQ is just bad. No wonder they are going back to the formula that worked in Negima because the start of UQ was completely horrible. If not for those loli Eva chapters I'd stop caring long ago.
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>>139687732
What kind of Isengard orc pits do people like you spawn from?
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>>139680169
This is why you should never draw a harem, the curse befalls all.
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>>139681648
Kuromaru always seemed to love the guy even if more in a bro way, Kirie and the others just got added though. Wish Ken didnt actually go all the way through with it and made it an actual cast of harem. Just Kuromaru and some harem antics from time to time with Kirie, Karin would be already fine.
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>>139686520
This.
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>>139686520
Actually I think there might be one in sadpanda.
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>>139691126
http://exhentai.org/g/712763/2afe2ede99/
here it is.
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>>139685173
kuromaru's already won it, one day her excuses will run out and touta will figure out she's breedable.
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>>139671349
That's not how breasts, muscle and gravity work. Why doesn't Ken use his own wife as reference?
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>>139691807
None of his friends can win it as long as Eva is alive. >>139682232
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>>139691460
Damn, why is there no good Negima hentai?
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>>139691807
They are best bros forever, so sadly Kuro is friendzoned forever too.
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>>139689504
Kuromaru was only interesting when he loved Touta in the "muh feudal lord cuck for life" way.
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Kirie is going to kill me
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>>139695079
Kirie is so cute she can kill!
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>>139694044
Kuro is a noble confidant.
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>>139681362
A "where are they now?" footnote is not an ending. Not when it's pure tease at all the glorious things we will never see.until a decade later after it eats its way out of UQ Holder's corpse like a wasp.
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>>139695623
>noble confidant.
Cute word of cuck retainer bound by gender an bushido.
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>>139695660
It was the last chapter so it was the ending.
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>>139695567
I think it's illegal to be this cute
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>>139695900
It's the face of a girl in love! A pure girl in love!
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>>139695900
Just fucking obnoxious at this point. She's the complete opposite of Yukihime.

Well almost.
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>>139696081
That's a weird way of saying "tooth-meltingly cute"
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>>139696081
That's the point, she will fight Yukihime's grumpiness and edge with pure cuteness and love.
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>>139688604

Negima sales nosedived in the second half of MW. And UQ sales are shit form the start.

Most people don't like this crap.

Negima was great during Kyoto and School Festival. After that it's shit with few good chapters from time to time.
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>>139696149
She is shit.
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>>139696351
>shit from the start
>top 10s every time a tankoubon releases for around 1-2 months

Ha.
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>>139696461
>She is the shit

Yes, yes she is.
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Yes, Kirie is annoying, her denial shtick is being overused, she is a bitch and she doesn't compare to Chisame at all
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>80+ year old Jew
>2000+ year old literal Jew
>500+ year old vampire
>falling for a 12-13 year old

Man this is a weird roster this time around. Yukihime's personality is the only one that makes sense for an immortal. And even that is being fucked by the negima shilling.
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>>139696532
It's better to ignore these shitposters, they say things they know nothing about to make it seem that their opinion is universal.
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>>139696624
>falling for a 12-13 year old
He is five. Age doesn't really matter especially when you are immortal, Negima was worst with more than 20 teenagers lusting for a 10 years old.
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>>139696719
>Age doesn't really matter especially when you are immortal
Yukihime sure thinks so. That was the whole thing about him pursuing her, she wants him to have enough time to think for himself without the stockholm syndrome and slut body. Since it'd look like she was grooming him as a sex toy to anyone that didn't know about kitty.
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>>139696817
It's because she matured. You can fall a love regardless of the age difference but age does affect your experience.
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>>139696863
Pretty much this. It's why she keeps distancing herself, because what she had been doing is literally grooming. And I guess she figured out it'd be dangerous to groom a kid with Springfield genes.

She had to toss him back into the wild and let the harem form naturally around him in order for him to learn to survive by himself (being pampered by girls). As is the natural order. Like releasing a wolf bred in captivity.
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>>139654621
Why? Because it will trigger you autistic nostalgiafag?
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Why does that clown girl keep appearing to shit up the story?
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>>139679332
>I hope that annoying bitch Kirie is dead
She's already dead, so many times.
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>>139699352
We need to have the requisite Negima cameos before moving the story along.
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>>139656284
Oh but timeline wisehe met her before she went on her crazy evil loli vampire crusade. Hell i think Touta was the one that kept her sanity.
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>>139699439
It could be any other character to be a exposition fodder and no one would have argued with you, but instead we got this shitty overdesigned girl.
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>>139682733
>Implying a homunculus would have parents
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>>139691904
How do you know it's not his wife's portrait?
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>>139699563
>he met her before

As loosely as the term NTR is used on this website, this scenario fits the definition even more.
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>>139700189
Touta's personality would be refreshing in a series like tsugumomo.
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>>139699636
She's a disney tie-in.
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>>139679243
stop being a delusion yuri fanboy.
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>>139696624
To clarify though, Eva is a little over 800.
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>>139692125

Gambler Club's doujins were ok. Specially the Eva/Chacha/Negi 3way one
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>>139682914
>don't dismiss what he himself says because it doesn't make sense in your little conspiracy

I'm going off what he said at great length (his copyright complaints) and by what he actually did after.
You're going off a throwaway line that doesn't fit with the rest.
And the video someone linked upthread only has him saying it was a lot of work to draw certain scenes, so he stopped doing them that way.
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>>139704004
>harem manga doujin
>MC isn't getting cucked
what's the point?
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>>139657142
Because is hot
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>>139705617

Uh...porn?

Loli vampire porn?

Also, /ss/ harems?

All of these seem like good things.
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So, who is king?
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>>139709114
That's basically the series already. All you need is like .01 imagination to picture that stuff. Nobody needs to draw it for you.
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>>139709305

>Nobody needs to draw it for you

.......I mean, no, but it's nicer that way.

And it's, y'know, the whole point of hentai.
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>>139705471
That video is a three-parter. He says he got burnt out on Negima in part 1, the video linked is part 2. You can find the other parts in the related videos.

Again, I'm not saying the copyright issue didn't play a role, I'm saying not to dismiss his other reasons and the other factors that led to Negima's end just because you think he's trying to cover Kodansha's ass (which is very much an assumption no matter what kind of reasoning you pull; everything you listed can be refuted, anyway, which I partly did). He's been very open about everything.
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