This is a vampire loli
This is bait. No one can be this retarded. Also, what a waste of good trips.
Me too. Here's what i feel about UQ.
UQ Holder was interesting because it was the adventures of immortals in the new world of magic. Exploring immortality and it's types, investigating events and generally "exploring" the new world.
The last chapters just changed to trying to give true closure to negima
How can she be a loli if she looks like a woman?
There is no Chao, this is a fan speculation which doesn't even make sense. RAW: http://raw.senmanga.com/UQ_Holder!/118/1
About what Zazie said, “a person with the same kind of power”, it is Touta’s “imotou” KATORASU/cutlass (self-proclaimed)
Touta is only at a disadvantage when it comes to the time needed for the activation conditions, but it is a “win who activates first”
to aim for that chance, until that moment it is nothing but a head-to-head race
(watching) Touta, who wins his match and advances to the next round, at different place, Zazie sends her blessing to Kiriwe
–a kiss is the activation key for the special power
–the degree how strong the feelings for your partner became, you decided to make it more stable and powerful
–that you could love a human for the first time, I ought to congratulate you for this
preferably you should become close, when Zazie says this, Ikkuu also gives his support
by the way, in Touta’s plan there is the need for someone who does the recovery and someone who does the sealing, however
thereupon Zazie summons and hands over in a swing the Konoe Twins who she captured previously
■Honoka & Isana…. to continue in issue 20!
Starting next chapter UQ Holder chapter will now have 18 pages instead of 16.
Why does Imouto look like she needs a Sleep Master bed?
Only Chao. Thinking about it imouto also used Asuna's sword at one point, maybe she is a clone made with genetic material of al the members of class 3-A and that is why she thinks of Touta as a lesser product, he only has DNA of one girl while she has it of of 20+.
Chao's ability to time travel was thanks to an item, though, she does not inherently have the ability to manipulate time.
>Thinking about it imouto also used Asuna's sword at one point
That was a replica, it was not the original.
Guys, why don't they just fucking freeze time and go kill what's her face and all the rest of the dudes standing in their way?
Why hasn't the enemy just done that?
This time freezing shit is so fucking stupid. There's literally no reason for them to not just abuse the fuck out of right this very second.
Because Cutlass (what a dumb name) probably wants Touta to suffer and feel despair, so killing him in stopped time won't be satisfying. Plus if she kills Kirie, it'll do absolutely nothing since she will just go back to her save point.
As for the good guys, where are they supposed to look? Do you expect Touta and Kirie to scour the whole of Earth and Mars (keep in mind they cant even fly) to find MOTB and Cutlass? They don't have any leads, except that something is going to happen in the tournament.
Dude, they're immortal and they can stop time with no repercussions. Why the fuck wouldn't they just do that? They have a literal eternity to figure out where they are.
Also, they could just take Kirie, freeze her, and launch her in a random direction into space. I'm sure they have some kind of stasis magic that would keep her alive indefinitely.
Better yet, just do it for all the immortals except Touta if you really want to cause suffering.
This is the most broken mechanic and completely ruins any kind of tension the series can have. There's no reason for a training arc anymore. There's no sense of urgency because the literally have all the time in the world to think up a solution to something. What the fuck was Ken thinking?
They already stopped time for weeks or months. There hasn't been a hint of any kind of draw back. No one has even said something like "wow, maybe you shouldn't just use that power all the time since we don't know what could happen".
There is no reason for them to not just freeze time and brute force all this shit.
In fact, knowing that their enemy has the same ultimate fucking power of freezing mother fucking TIME, they're insane to NOT have stopped time until they figured out a game plan for cutlass. They literally have no defense against it.
Kirie has a cyanide pill in her tooth. Even if she somehow gets frozen by sleep or petrification or some time dilation (which she likely already has countermeasures for since she almost certainly has a fair idea of what can actually neutralise her), EVENTUALLY she'll be cured (there are immortals all over the world after all), so afterwards she can just reload.
And how are enemies supposed to figure out she has both time-stop AND save-reset? The first you might be able to discern from inexplicable teleportation after a kiss, but it is impossible to spot the second power as an observer.
Besides, Cutlass stated that it's only because Touta was dumb enough to go away from the island that she tried to kill him. There's probably some people she just can't handle.
>They now have the right to challenge the king!
Do you really want every exposition to be blatantly said in your face? Just wait for the next chapter explanation.
>>Does this idiot finally realize Kirie is in love with him?
Yes, look at him just suddenly realize that they are talking about them dating. He just need one more push to get that Kirie likes him,and then you will see him blushing when he thinks about how he normally treats Kirie.
>>Yeah, and Fate took their space ship and left them naked in the ocean.
Fate is a horrible boss.
>page has a cute pantyshot
>everyone focuses on the awesome face
The power of Kirie
>She will be irrelevant, they said.
>Touta doesn't care about Kirie, they said.
>Besides Kitty, only Karin has a real chance, they said.
Kirie will win the Touta bowl.
>She will be irrelevant, they said.
>Touta doesn't care about Kirie, they said.
No one ever said that. Of course when she has the ability to stop time if she kisses him she will be relevant.
I dropped this shit the moment Kuromaru transformed into a genderless again after being a women. I'm still mad about that shit. Wtf was the author thinking? He threw away all development for nothing.
>In UQH she is much more important too
Literally the only reason for that is because Akamatsu wanted to give her an arc in Negima, but couldn't because of the premature ending. It's the same to a lesser extent with Mana.
I am pretty sure he had confirmed that the series would be close to the end if Zazie were to become relevant, and she became more relevant near the end. She is not the only girl who didn't get an arc.
>Kirie will win the Touta bowl.
Maybe for the duration of her pathetic faux-immortal lifespan. Which will only happen in the first place if they get stuck in the timestop until Kirie grows old and died so Touta can get some more timeskip maturity.
It's no secret that Akamatsu wanted to write another 20 volumes of Negima, and he's said giving Zazie a more prominent role was part of that. There were other underdeveloped characters, yes, but how many of them could still be alive 80 years in the future?
I'm glad to hear this series hasn't improved at. Now I won't waste my time catching up. This shit was already on the verge of being dropped when literally every girl in the series fell in love with Touta out of nowhere. The women in this manga are all shallow whores. Also, I hope that annoying bitch Kirie is dead. I'll pick it back up just to see her death.. Annoying little slut.
Yes, because Kirie looks like a 4 year old.
What happened to our GRITTY MANLY manga full of GRUFF RUGGED MANLY MEN and contests of PURE MANHOOD?
>And I'm going to look like a little girl for all eternity.
We've had this discussion before. It seems like Kirie had an aging plateau akin to Negi's. She aged for a bit and then stopped. Otherwise how would she reach the death of the earth due to solar expansion as discussed in Dana's world?
>you will never be such shitty parents that your kid develops super powers to cope
Just the fact that she aged at all means her immortality will be BTFO long before the quadrillions of years Touta and Karin are gonna chill through.
Off topic but this line is straight up retarded because Yukihime's non-drug form looks younger than her.
The writing feels a lot less inspired. There was barely any romance in the start too. I remember the MU tag used to just be "romantic subplot".
Kill the protagonist from the last manga already and go back to fighting liches and spooky monsters.
Written out just like the rest of these character that haven't appeared yet.
>tries to make a good manga
>gets 90 chapters in
>hand starts involuntarily drawing harems
Ken's curse. At least he got farther this time.
Did he change magazines along the way because earlier UQ was pretty raw.
All he's doing is stripping people though. Think about how much stuff you can do with the immortality concept. "Slapstick harem" comedy could even be improved. Girls could literally be decapitating him or shit. Like that tug of war a few chapters back could've been funny if they had ripped his arms off because his harem is strong as shit.
>Wow. Back when this manga actually showed promise.
Tell me about it. I remember when people used to recommend NOT reading Negima beforehand because the series worked so well standalone.
It's the law of conquest, poyo
Not!Setsuna hasn't exactly accepted it anyway.
Remember when people threw bitchfits that Asuna was overpowered just for having 50% anti-magic?
He was better as a fuccboi but they've even dropped that, since he's now entering the female bathes etc etc.
When will Touta become cool again? The hoolahoop is the faggiest weapon i swear.
I'm a reader who hasn't read Negima and recently it's really lost a lot of my enthusiasm with all that stuff. I hope it returns to being good standalone but the direction it's headed is worrisome.
Basically negima ruins everything is the conclusion you should draw.
The plot as it stands now is Negima enough to draw in the people going "Why isn't this Negima?!" without realizing it literally isn't, and then UQH fans don't want the main plotline to be this heavily connected to the previous series because there's a very clear thematic shift in the recent dozen or so chapters.
Well the harem antics haven't even been around for that long.
And Ban got boring because the author got a giant boner for them midway and edged them into a better story than the protagonists.
What is the symbolism in this chapter title picture?
It's Akamatsu's fault for killing Negima unsatisfactorily and then wanting to go back to it without calling it "Negima 2". Having a few recurring characters would be one thing, but as it stands UQ Holder almost completely squanders its potentially interesting initial setup about immortals to just do Negima again with the Lifemaker and having to save the MC's relative from possession because both plot points were shafted when Negima was cut short and Akamatsu clearly wanted to develop them instead.
Ken himself said he was burned out by the end of Negima, even with that copyright shit going on.
He also explained his reasons for including Negima, and it's not wanting to continue it.
>The plot as it stands now is Negima enough to draw in the people going "Why isn't this Negima?!" without realizing it literally isn't
UQH is basically holding Negima's ending hostage.
If/when UQH just throws up it's hands and says "UQH's ending is at the end of Negima have fun reading through all the shit you don't care about for a conclusion" you would be griping too.
>Because the author didn't want to do it?
The publishers were lobbying for a new law that would have let them steal partial ownership of all manga copyrights of things made after the change, and they ignored all the manga authors objecting to this.
So he ended Negima quick, so that he'd retain full ownership no matter what.
Negi's grave with Touta calling him grandfather was at the beginning of chapter 1 and Negima stated he was immortal and couldn't reproduce. It was obvious something was going to be done with it from day one, although the sheer extent of the connection/"holding the ending hostage" has got just bigger and bigger since.
I used to defend Akamatsu for this back then, but he's literally the only person who ever talked or cared about this. You would think other manga authors would've taken a stand if it was a real issue, and nothing came out of it since Akamatsu just went back to Kodansha anyway. Seems to me he jumped the gun hardcore.
>When UQ first came out people were crying about muh Negima
>Now that UQ has gone full Negima people hate it
I can't tell if the Negimafags have just quieted down or if they all finally realized Negima in UQ was a bad idea.
Yeah, but it could've been something simple like "someone wanted to make a clone of Negi because he was an extremely powerful mage and wanted to replicate him to conquer the world so Eva saved him and hid him", which would've been mostly detached from Negima while still having references. Instead we got the same exact plot with the Lifemaker and Negi in Nagi's place.
Same people, different approach.
>someone wanted to make a clone of Negi because he was an extremely powerful mage and wanted to replicate him to conquer the world so Eva saved him and hid him
But it was exactly that?
>Love Hina starts out a comedy manga with light undertones of romance
>ends up a harem
>Negima starts out a slice of life magical school manga
>end up a battle shounen with full blown harem
>UQ starts out magic shounen manga
>ends up a harem
Can Ken not write something that doesn't end up a harem?
Does anyone else feel like even if Negima is coming on too strong Fate's presence still makes the manga better?
I won't be happy if Ken shits on his development, though.
>But it was exactly that?
No, Eva saved him so he could eventually be used to get rid of the Lifemaker by killing Negi. Either way, it's more complicated and deeply connected to Negima than it needed to be. I try thinking about how it'd be to read UQ Holder for someone who didn't read Negima and there would be way too much stuff that's simply glossed over or difficult to appreciate since it actively takes focus away from the UQ Holder original cast (so you'd just get annoyed if you didn't have an attachment to Negima characters). A more tenuous connection would've allowed the series to better express the potential of its original cast and actually do more original plotlines.
But that's how harem start. The girls get interested in a character and it turns into love. I find it better handled than in Negima because there are not too much characters adn although it can slow don the pace a lot,it is nowhere near as bad as in Negima, with a lot of irrelevant girls who were getting the spotlight for pointless love stories, and the MC has an actual love interest this time. If Akamatsu had spent less time on this in Negima the ending would have probably been satisfying.
I don't trust Eva's words but I guess we still don't know enough about the circumstances around her saving Touta. Still, that's beside the point I was making of the Negima connections being too strong for the series' own good.
That the harem began after Touta already made clearly he was in love with Eva is the weirdest thing though. What's the point of it? Unless he ends up settling with someone other than Eva.
No. Asuna is now the sleeping beauty, Takahata ended with the hot teacher presumably.
I don't think Negima is that important, Negi is used for Touta the same way Nagi was used for Negi. The awesome parent you need to match/surpass, Touta has far more drive though. The plot with the Lifemaker doesn't matter much, we know he won and became her vessel. The one mystery is who is the one he loved.
Harem always seem useless but with Kuromaru it would have been a love triangle at least.
This talk is kinda funny because Ken asked at the JP Expo in France if people preferred action or romance, opinions were divided but the majority approved when he asked if they would like both at the same time.
>Harem always seem useless but with Kuromaru it would have been a love triangle at least.
It was sorta useless in Love Hina since it was obvious from chapter 1 that Naru would win, although harem hijinks were used to develop the other girls so it was ultimately fine. Same for Negima where it was never clear if Negi was even interested in anyone and kissing tied into the pactio system so the harem elements were used to power the characters up (except for the ones who never got pactios, but they weren't too many), although the huge ending troll about Negi's lover was annoying (and I'm not sure it'll be resolved in UQ Holder either). In UQ Holder, it honestly feels tacked on and somewhat of a "falling back into old habits" kinda thing. This development with Kirie right now is interesting if it won't be backpedaled and Kuromaru liking Touta was actually going somewhere to further his gender identity issue, but then status quo won out.
Digging a bit for old articles summarizing it, he also had the author of Ippo backing him.
It was safe to go back after the bill was definitely dead and his publisher knew he wasn't bluffing. And you know he must have had a fair amount of pull in that negotiation for them to 1) take him back pretty quickly, and 2) let him do UQH instead of just directly resuming Negima.
That's just the reconciliatory stuff he said after so the publisher could save a little face. It doesn't pass serious scrutiny after looking at what he did: started UQH really soon after (so he wasn't tired of manga in general), with a few ultra long chapters (so we *really* know he wasn't tired of drawing), in the same setting (so we know he didn't actually dislike the setting), as a battle manga (so we know he didn't dislike the part of Negima he'd been neck deep in before the copyright law proposal). I could try to argue it was only the harem part he didn't like, but that doesn't work either, because his epilogue left the big battles offscreen and focused on the girls.
You're just making assumptions with no basis besides your own observation. He never even said he was tired of drawing manga, he specifically said he got burnt out from drawing Negima for 9 years. The same world is not the same thing as the same setting. UQ and Negima have very different settings and cast.
Not only that, his author's note in the final volume mentions he felt like after the movie he should end Negima.
I'm not saying the copyright stuff didn't play some part, but don't dismiss what he himself says because it doesn't make sense in your little conspiracy. Ken has always honestly spoken out about what he believes.
There is something what still bothers me.
Was she able to get her father's D?
>We have countless doujins of Asuna getting fucked by faceless boys or shotanegi and none of Yuuna trying to get with her father.
>I am still around and will be until the end to see Negi only
I feel like I will be the salt embodiment by the end of this series. Why the fuck was it advertised as a sequel to Negima. God damn.
I never even cared about Negi. Especially after Negima went full shonen shit in the second half of MW arc. Negima was great when it was a balanced story about many characters. When it started focusing only on Negi after he went SSJ it turned to shit. And sales reflected that.
UQ is just bad. No wonder they are going back to the formula that worked in Negima because the start of UQ was completely horrible. If not for those loli Eva chapters I'd stop caring long ago.
This is why you should never draw a harem, the curse befalls all.
Kuromaru always seemed to love the guy even if more in a bro way, Kirie and the others just got added though. Wish Ken didnt actually go all the way through with it and made it an actual cast of harem. Just Kuromaru and some harem antics from time to time with Kirie, Karin would be already fine.
Kirie is going to kill me
A "where are they now?" footnote is not an ending. Not when it's pure tease at all the glorious things we will never see.until a decade later after it eats its way out of UQ Holder's corpse like a wasp.
I think it's illegal to be this cute
Just fucking obnoxious at this point. She's the complete opposite of Yukihime.
That's a weird way of saying "tooth-meltingly cute"
Negima sales nosedived in the second half of MW. And UQ sales are shit form the start.
Most people don't like this crap.
Negima was great during Kyoto and School Festival. After that it's shit with few good chapters from time to time.
>She is the shit
Yes, yes she is.
>80+ year old Jew
>2000+ year old literal Jew
>500+ year old vampire
>falling for a 12-13 year old
Man this is a weird roster this time around. Yukihime's personality is the only one that makes sense for an immortal. And even that is being fucked by the negima shilling.
>Age doesn't really matter especially when you are immortal
Yukihime sure thinks so. That was the whole thing about him pursuing her, she wants him to have enough time to think for himself without the stockholm syndrome and slut body. Since it'd look like she was grooming him as a sex toy to anyone that didn't know about kitty.
Pretty much this. It's why she keeps distancing herself, because what she had been doing is literally grooming. And I guess she figured out it'd be dangerous to groom a kid with Springfield genes.
She had to toss him back into the wild and let the harem form naturally around him in order for him to learn to survive by himself (being pampered by girls). As is the natural order. Like releasing a wolf bred in captivity.
Touta's personality would be refreshing in a series like tsugumomo.
>don't dismiss what he himself says because it doesn't make sense in your little conspiracy
I'm going off what he said at great length (his copyright complaints) and by what he actually did after.
You're going off a throwaway line that doesn't fit with the rest.
And the video someone linked upthread only has him saying it was a lot of work to draw certain scenes, so he stopped doing them that way.
That video is a three-parter. He says he got burnt out on Negima in part 1, the video linked is part 2. You can find the other parts in the related videos.
Again, I'm not saying the copyright issue didn't play a role, I'm saying not to dismiss his other reasons and the other factors that led to Negima's end just because you think he's trying to cover Kodansha's ass (which is very much an assumption no matter what kind of reasoning you pull; everything you listed can be refuted, anyway, which I partly did). He's been very open about everything.