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9-A preview is out: http://dengekibunko.jp/books/1604hrizon8-1/?page=1

Also, more Horizon and Hexennacht chapters
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_4B_Chapter_43
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Clash_of_Hexennacht:Volume2_Chapter_5

>All that blood in the cover
Pretty fitting if we talk about Oichi
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Thanks.
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>120 pages for the intro

Jesus, how long is this one supposed to be?
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>>139642208

The puffiest!
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So it's their arc?
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>>139643034
Nice. It's about time, I'd say.

>>139642509
>>139642509
Maybe we are getting to the ending.
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>Let's have one big fun war!

Oh, you eroundic warmonger...
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>>139643701
I guess Masazumi's given into her warmongering nature, then.
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I'm really interested in this series but why so many big boobs?
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>>139644066
There's more character that are flat than ones with balloon tits, get over it
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>>139644066
Big tits are a sign of fertility in the past.
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>>139644629
get over it? lol what a fag. I asked because I liked them
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I've been meaning to ask since the anime aired, is the Musashi killing their enemies, the unnamed soldiers that fight, that is. The books leave it too vague for me to tell. I can't respect these characters if they started a war that killed a bunch of teenagers for muh Horizon
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>>139644674
>lol

Fuck off.

>>139644836
>respecting cartoons

Kill yourself.
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>>139644932
H-have you ever actually read a book?
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>>139644836
It's a war, so yes, people die. Toori is fighting to take back everything Horizon lost, but their cause is more fundamentally about reclaiming the Far East's sovereignty and averting the apocalypse. Horizon ended up being the pretext for a rebellion that Musashi was already planning.
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>>139644066
The author likes them. And flat chests.
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>>139643474
>>139643552

What's with those bowls? Another sashimi cury?
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>>139644836
Its war. Soldiers dying is expected.

And no, the other nations have older soldiers, its only Musashi that has only teenage soldiers.
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>>139645036
Isn't the ideal of stopping the apocalypse by killing anyone who stands in your way a bit messed up? I know deep stuff isn't Kawakami's forte, but still...
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>>139645092
Or the weird drinks that got served at the meeting in 3-A.
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>>139645138
Well, they need to gather all the Armament of Deadly Sin.

The problem is that nobody wants to do that because those are WMDs. The act of giving others the weapon removes a large chunk of firepower from their military. The power balance of the world goes haywire if certain nations lose their weapon.
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>>139645138
Not really. Every country is trying to work things out to their own advantage, and this is a universe where the maxim that "war is the continuation of politics through other means" definitely applies. When things can be resolved through negotiations, each faction attempts negotiation, and when things can't, they fight.

Every group (Musashi, P.A. Oda, the Testament Union) has its own ideas for averting the apocalypse, but they're fighting for advantage in the world that follows. Nobody is assuming that they'll all be destroyed. That's why Masazumi offered the use of Musashi as a trade ship to England, for instance -- that'd be pointless if the world is destroyed within the year, but everyone is aiming past that.

If anything the way Kawakami plays things out is more realistic -- if there were actually the threat of a global disaster, there would still be conflict between states and maneuvering for advantage. Saying that they'll stop the apocalypse gives Musashi a just cause, but they're still going to try to achieve their other goals concurrently.
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>>139642208
http://www.amazon.co.jp/GENESIS%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA-%E5%A2%83%E7%95%8C%E7%B7%9A%E4%B8%8A%E3%81%AE%E3%83%9B%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%82%BE%E3%83%B3-9-%E4%B8%8A-%E9%9B%BB%E6%92%83%E6%96%87%E5%BA%AB/dp/4048658867/ref=zg_bs_2220016051_3

808 pages this time
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>>139645392
Nice. Anyone know how long that is relative to some of the other volumes? I seem to remember that some of the volumes got to be up to 1000 pages, but I could be wrong.
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>>139645138
You know, people dying is just a given. IRL people die all the time because of far more trivial things, and Musashi at least try to mantain the losses to the minimum. They always try to negotiate as the first option, not only because they wouldn't have a chance if all countries ganged on them but because it actually reinforces their point.

An conflict in some way is just inevitable, fiction (and anime and manga specifically) many times avoid this kind of issue but that's the truth.
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I really like the designs, but the writing for Horizon is fucking atrocious. So depressing, I wish it was better.
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>>139645488
I don't see any problem with the writing really. The first volume was badly translated for the most part but that's all.
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Jesus Christ, finally, a horizonthread I can post in!

...and Malga cheated on Mar.
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>>139645138
Under that logic all the revolutions and liberation wars in human history are messed up.
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>>139645347
>>139645389
>>139645479
It just irks me that the Musashi and the main characters kill for this, Toori being happy all the time as he stands on the mountain of bodies this war has claimed makes me hate him even more. Is it just me being edgy for liking the Musashi Committee and Tres Espana more than the Musashi?
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>>139645138
>I know deep stuff isn't Kawakami's forte, but still...
He can be quite deep when he wants. When he sticks to a theme he portrays it correctly.
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>>139643701
>literally sieg heil Seijun

I always knew she`ll go full natsoc eventually.
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>>139645676
From the outside looking in, it feels more like a cult starting a war.
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>>139645723
>mountain of bodies

You`re literally describing Oda. Nuclear fucking bombs versus prenegotiated warfare.
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>>139645723
Well, people die but that applies for the other countries too, and they also want to fix the Apocalypse problem. Conflict is just in human nature.

And even if people die the battles in Horizon are actually far less bloody than real fights anyway. One of the whole points of history recreation is avoid excessive deaths brought by sudden wars or events.
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>>139645675
Explain.

>>139645723
It's pretty edgy, yeah. It's weird to me that you're starting from the baseline of nobody dying when the baseline is actually people dying all the time from the wars between the Testament Union and P.A. Oda.

>>139645843
Musashi's the representative of the Far East, which is under the provisional rule of the Testament Union. That as bog-standard of a rebellion as you can get. The actual members of 3-Plum might feel like a cult, but still...

>>139645758
No matter how she tries to deny it, her negotiations always lead to war for a reason.
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>>139645723
>>139645848
The Oda took a "whatever it takes approach" yeah. Hideyoshi explains it well in 3C. They are the necessary evil here, so in some way it's kinda the opposite to how it was in OnC.
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>>139642208
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>>139645911
This. I assume Oda is justifying themselves with some sort of utilitarianism -- since the Apocalyse would be so bad, pretty much anything is allowed if it'll stop the world from ending.

In that sense the Musashi crew's not quite on the same level yet. They haven't really got anything akin to the Genesis Project.
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>>139645723
Even without Toori and friends doing their stuff, people are still gonna die.

Horizon was gonna die for something that she had no part in and knew nothing about. Because they were trying to get an extra Armament of Deadly Sin out of her and get full control over the Far East.

Mary was gonna be reduced to ether and fed into England's ley lines to power Ex. Caliburn. All because of the history recreation which forced her(If not her sister) to murder people.
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>>139645843
People around a charismatic person doesn't make it into a cult. They feel more like a close group of friends, they even disagree with each other and Toori if they don't agree. They being a group so close actually reinforce their strengths and diminish their weaknesses.
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>>139646066
Why doesn't the Musashi work with the Testament Union and collect the Armaments, stop the apocalypse, and let the Testament Union redistribute the Armaments like they were before? That way the Union can focus on Oda and prevent people dying fighting the Musashi? The provisional rule isn't worth killing people over, is it?
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>>139646413
Because TU wants to take control of Musashi afaik
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>>139643701
I love this chick
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>>139646413
The whole first arc has a whole chunk that it's an explanation about how that's not really possible.

And at the end it boils into the Testament Union wanting to control Musashi for the own gain (and that's something that will kill even more people than going to war as Masazumi says) and they wanting to kill an innocent to get their political play done.

After that is solved Musashi ae the first ones to offer their hand to the TU to find a common solution. Part of the England arc is basically that really.
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Here's a screen cap version of the whole volume until I find the time to scan the real deal.
Page numbers will mismatch with the original, but I tried to make it as close as possible.

https://www.mediafire.com/?ci4apub0hzj1fjg

Illustrations only. with correct page numbers:
https://www.mediafire.com/?0ad58lu7u76juuq

And, this is completely unrelated to Kawakami, but I though that maybe someone was interested.
Two novels that I got for a friend of mine:
https://www.mediafire.com/?p286c08sfv60qe5
https://www.mediafire.com/?s8yuyzu21474dxd
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>>139646413
The Musashi wants to do that, but the other countries have their own agendas and they don't quite trust the Musashi or their military strength from the get-go (the Far East was the loser of the Harmonic Unification War after all), so one of the points of the journey to Westphalia is to gain the other countries trust.
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>>139646413
They want to control the Musashi. The Musashi is the last remaining part of the Far East that can govern themselves, albeit in a very nerfed manner.

They want to take the Musashi, give it weapons, and throw it into the war with PA Oda so they don't have to fight Oda themselves.

All that while the debts the other nations owe the Far East is rendered non-existent, they want to not pay back the money they borrowed from the Far East. If anyone complains about that, their assets get frozen.

The Musashi also has airship tech way better than everyone else's, so them getting their hands on the Musashi also means that everyone gets that amazing airship tech.
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>>139642208
Going crazy again, huh.
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>>139646603
>>139646820
>>139646871
Even if the TU killed everyone on the Musashi and Horizon, I can't imagine that beats out the lives lost from the beginning to the end of the series in the conflicts caused by Musashi rebelling.

P.A Oda is going to fight the TU anyways, why not just let the Musashi get destroyed; they want to fight, let them fight. I'd gladly let them fight if they want to fight. P.A Oda would just nuke them out of the sky and be done. This would honestly avoid casualties of people who don't want to fight and null the apocalypse problem.

This is some serious Frodoposting, isn't it?
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>>139647068
>I can't imagine that beats out the lives lost from the beginning to the end of the series in the conflicts caused by Musashi rebelling
What conflicts? The only fight that brought the Musashi rebelling was the Horizon rescue campaign, and that was a skirmish at best.

All the other fights the Musashi was in after that point were fights that were going to happen one way or another, and one can argue that the Musashi being involved actually made them turn for the better.

Musashi hasn't taken the P.A. Oda approach or something relatively similar. They are flying around trying to ally with other people and they get dragged or drag themselves into other fights because they want to show the other plausible ally countries they are reliable.

I just can't see your point really. Musashi actions didn't really caused anything that wasn't already there from the start.
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Season 3 when?
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To anyone who's past 3-C,

Did best spearman girl get any character development? Has she at least decided on whether to accept her father's inherited name or not?
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>>139647410
The fourth arc has a part that is her falling into her insecurities (and really accepting that her parents are dead) and then getting back stronger.
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>>139647068
Musashi itself doesn't really contribute to that much death in the whole scheme of things though.

Their military force is way smaller and less experienced than those of the other nations.
They have good people, and those are the Special Duty Officers.

The battles are either unavoidable because of the history recreation+current conflict or they had to do it to show that they are reliable.
Like in the case of England, their conflict with England barring the negotiation was the duels between the Special Duty Officers. No deaths for the slight conflict between Musashi and England.

Sack of Magdeburg, that was completely unavoidable and was going to happen either way, Musashi arriving to help arguably reduced the death toll by evacuating the people there.
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I heard there was a Finnish/Swedish character in this?
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>>139647457

What volume is this?
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>>139647569
Christina yeah.
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>>139646757
You're the best, just the best.
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>>139647619
Cool, which volume does that character appear in?
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>>139644836
>>139645036
>>139645389

Come think of it, do the books ever describe the soldiers fighting in the battlefields, as well as things like uniforms and weapons?
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>>139647879
>uniforms and weapons
The encyclopedia for the anime has drawings of the uniforms.
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>>139647879
Sometimes yeah. Sometimes there are even maps of the battles and how they develop.
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>>139647597
It's something that starts in 4A and finishes in 4C.

>>139647856
Still untranslated. It's in the seventh arc.
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>>139647942

The encyclopedia only covers nations appearing in the anime.
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>>139648158
I think that it has a description of the uniforms of all the big nations.
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>>139648158
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>>139648202
>>139648299

True, but it doesn't really expand on the topics of combat uniforms and weapons for any nations other than the Far East, Tres Espana and K.P.A. Italia. It'd be awesome to see, for example, the Landsknecht armours or Sviet Russia's standard issue rifle.
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How are the translations?

Shame they tease so much at the end of s2 only to not get s3.
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>>139648739
From the point js06 got the reigns they are pretty good.
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>>139648299
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>>139642509
>>139643418
Maybe it'll be Kawakami's first four-parter.
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>>139651245
Wait, there was one already in Horizon, I think.
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>>139651644
No, only two or three-parter.
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Hexennacht up this shit.
How are you enjoying your 500 meter magical girl wands and literal Mary Sues?
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>>139652148
>How are you enjoying your 500 meter magical girl wands?
I'm having a great time reading it for the technology porn.
How it relates to the rest of the Kawakamiverse (especially on the subject of Ether) is kind of on the backburner in the plot, but I'm hoping to see more that, too.
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>>139646757
You're awesome.

>>139646413
There's two issues at play here. First is that provisional rule is not part of the Testament descriptions, so restoring the world to the proper systems of governance is a good in of itself. Obviously, the Testament Union would prefer to maintain its status quo advantages, while the Far East would prefer both independence and getting its land back by forcing the other countries out. This is fundamentally a political issue, but under ordinary conditions the Far East can't rebel due to both disarmament and the general sentiment among the people from the harmonic territories that everything was the Far East's fault anyways.

Basically, cooperation isn't possible because each faction has different interests and end goals. Obviously everyone wants to survive the apocalypse, but until there's no choice but all-out cooperation, they'll want to maximize their own advantages.

That's why Horizon's forced suicide is such a big deal. The Testament Union (and KPA Italia in particular) wanted to use Motonobu's destruction of Mikawa to get a ADS and a reason to fully take over the Far East. However, the Musashi crew was able to use this event to claim that the Testament Union itself was evil (by misusing the Testament to force an innocent to die), thus justifying a war for the Far East's independence. Also, by rescuing Horizon, they got an excellent justification for why they should be the ones to gather the Armaments.
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>>139652422
Yeah, I don't know how the Book of Creation fits within the happenings OBSTACLE. Either it is literally the reason behind the era or just a bunch of sub-worlds to one of the many OBSTACLE worlds.
I hope it's the latter and that Horizon ends with the catastrophe starting OBSTACLE.
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>>139652422
I love how Kawakami's maids are cement-like and ruthless.

>>139652422
It's fun. The first volume was a bit too battle-heavy, but the second volume has many more of the character interactions Kawakami does so well. It just gets more and more ridiculous, and I love it. In what other series is hitching a ride on satellites for high-speed transportation even remotely possible?
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>>139652861
Unless there's a sequel in the Genesis era, Horizon probably does. We know PA Oda's Genesis Project is mean to end everything without letting it end, which presumably leads to the many-worlds experiment of Obstacle and then the stable world of City.
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>>139652633
The first volume establishes that the critical moment will come at the Peace of Westphalia. At that point there will be no choice but to confront the apocalypse with a united front.

Hence, after Volume 1 the story essentially revolves around each faction trying to get to Westphalia in as advantageous of a position as possible. Musashi's goal is to retrieve the rest of the Armaments and form good relationships with other countries. Since all major events in this world are guided by the Testament, control over Testament interpretations and getting historical recreations to play out in their favor is of paramount importance for all factions. This is why PA Oda seizes control of the Testament Union after Itsukushima, for instance, and why Musashi's current goal is to accelerate the recreations and force Nobunaga's assassination.

If Musashi can end the era of Nobunaga and also the era of Hashiba by Westphalia, then they become the unquestioned sole representative of the Far East. If not, PA Oda's superior military and economic power puts them at an advantage.
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>>139645442
2B is the only one that got to 1000 pages so far last I checked.
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>>139652902
Kawakami's automaton maids are fun characters.

>Musashi giving Mito a frightening look when Mito says that Musashi's definition of a date is what she usually does with Sakai
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>>139653859
Sometimes it feels like half of Kawakami's charm is just taking ideas that have been used before and making them way better.

>>139653660
Cool, thanks.
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>>139643034
I just love Muneshige and Gin's relationship.
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>>139654104
Outside of Horizon, Owari no Chronicle 7 is also over 1000 pages.
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>>139654248
They're so cute together. The moe, slightly wussy husband and the deadpan, misunderstanding-prone wife combination works really well.
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>>139653660
>>139654104
I wrote this some time ago, there are several with more than 1000 pages.

http://pastebin.com/raw/sLKNvWqg

Doesn't include 9-A.
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>>139654468
No Kimitoasamede numbers?
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>>139654205
This is one of the things I've never quite understood -- why is Masazumi so poor? I know it's they have a complicated relationship, but given that Masanobu's on the provisional council and clearly has lots of extra spending money for otaku goods, it's really bizarre that his daughter is passing out in the street starving because she's so poor. She even lives in the same house, so why doesn't she get at least the bare minimum of living expense money?

At least with Adele we can assume that either her father's passed away or not on the Musashi, so this is hard to understand.
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>>139654468
Oh, very nice. Thanks a lot.
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>>139654550
Didn't include them since I couldn't look up the page numbers on amazon and simply copy/paste them.
I have the scans on the computer so I might look into it later, or you do it.
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>>139654582
I only remember her buying a lot of books with her food money. Considering she has to teach at elementary school as well, masanobu must not be giving her anything at all.
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>>139654627
>or you do it
I don't know where to get LN scans.
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>>139653859
And his old men. Ooshiro, Sakai, and Masanobu are all pretty hilarious.
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>>139654708
jcafe24/sadpanda/dl-zip
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>>139654694
What an incomprehensible father-daughter relationship. He won't give her food money, but he'll start a fanclub for her and turn the provisional council into her fans.
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>>139654813
Well, maybe he forgot his daughter needs his support in all the nosebleeding hnnnnng and betting on things with Koni-tan.
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>>139654582
I guess it's Masanobu being stingy, or just wanting her to grow up independent.
Despite his failed inheritance he's still a major merchant on the Musashi, so I don't see how he could have too little money.
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>>139654925
Oy vey Masanobu, give shekels to your little shiksa!
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>>139655001
He spends all his money on animu and eroge while developing cute merchandise of his daughter.
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>>139654895
Well, if you think about how Ooshiro ended up after his wife died, it all makes sense. Grieving seems to turn people crazy.

Imagine what Sayama would be like if Shinjou had actually died.
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>>139654742
>>139654550
Probably wrong since this is based on scans, but
1A 164
1B 196
2A 196
2B 212
3A 164
3B 276
4A 292
4B 484
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>>139655091
I think Sayama would go outright suicidal. Harm to Shinjou is one thing to surely break him.
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>>139655514
Well, I`ve made sure to number those right.
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>>139655514
>4B 484
KAWAKAMIII

You can tell he realized he was running out of volumes and just crammed everything and the kitchen sink in the last one. And I love him for it.
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>>139655960
Well, it was a mininovel volume for every odd collector`s BD volume, so he probably knew the limits from the start. I bet editor-san slept on it, or maybe commited sudoku, and they were looking for a replacement.
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>>139656050
The editor doesn't read the novels, though.
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>>139656101
Maybe he does once in a while, and then it`s sudoku time.
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>>139652902
Honestly I think the Mary Sue fight feels quite a bit more "technical" than the V1 ones. Not sure I appreciate that since it makes them harder to visualise.
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>>139656970
I`ve always had problems visualising insanity that is typical Kawakami fight. I think I gave up completely when Sayama rode on one of those chinese guys from the top of a mountain.
My mind just can`t compute. All the more respect for people who can actually adapt such things for the screen.
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>>139656970
Everything she's done so far has been invisible from the perspective of her opponent as well so that adds to the difficulty in visualizing it.

>>139657192
That was one of the simpler Owari fights though.
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>>139653013

So basically, everyone dies?
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>>139657757
No. They could make it into the new world depending on how it happens.
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>>139657757
I sure hope not, but it might happen.

>>139657607
It's certainly effective as a writing technique -- the reader feels a smidgen of the same confusion as the other characters -- but hard to follow.
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>upside-down battle
fucking Kawakami
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>>139657757
Unlikely, though. I doubt Kawakami would aim for that sort of ending.
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>>139657192
I think Kawakami might have actually became less insane since OnC.
>that scene when Sayama kicks moonlight
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>>139657866
The insanity moved from the insane things happening in a normal world to normal things happening in an insane world.
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>>139657960
I don't know, the scale definitely got bigger.
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>>139657866
I'd say that was still normal compared to the part where Kaku brought a city to life with a kabuki pun and a robot maid that was remotely controlled by an old man turned all the buildings in a city district into guided nuclear missiles.
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>>139657866
Read Unturning Centipede fight and say it again.
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>>139658315
Oh yeah, that happened.
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>>139658315
That was a great moment. Good times.
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>>139643552
>why did you have to be in that AV, Malga
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>>139658315
>Kaku brought a city to life with a kabuki pun
That was the fake city they materialized over the real one to trick the old man right?
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I missed these threads.
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>>139657844
Marfa is certifiably insane, but that`s perfectly normal in kawakamiverse.
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>>139658528
Wait, what. Someone explain what happened, please.
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>>139658946
It's being said that her seiyuu did porn or something.
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>>139642208
So, will Oichi and Katsuie die in this arc or not?
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>>139658946
Visit any LL thread. It`s a pogrom there.
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>>139659223
Probably. Shibata is starting his rebellion, although it's really early and completely unexpected just like the real one's.
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>>139659296
I mean is Kawakami, none of this programmed deaths actually worked.
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>>139659380
Did you forget about Matsunaga Hisahide already?
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>>139659543
His wasn't really telegraphed like this one. Matsunaga's death was totally sudden like all the deaths in v3.
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>>139659637
Anne's death was telegraphed for 3 volumes. It just didn't happen for the reason that was being foreshadowed.
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>>139659837
Yeah that's true. Still it looked more as if she was going to die in the future and not in the same arc in such way.

This is like "well I'm going to start the recreation where I die, see you next year in the next arc!".
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>>139660209
can someone translate this?
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>>139643034
Horizon's arms are everywhere.
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>>139660717
He even adds them in Kimitoasamade
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>>139660902
Was it explained already? I get that she has wireless link to her robotic parts, but why the hell would she separate them in the first place?
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>>139661014
I don't know.
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>>139661014
To troll people, why else?
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>>139658377
I couldn't visualize that fight at all. Narumi was summoning thousands of arms and attaching and detaching each of them to move around and attack or something right?
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Summary of 9-A preview:
P.A. Oda and Hashiba prepare for their upcoming battles.
Juana negotiates with Masazumi while they eat.
Masazumi mistakenly thinks negotiating under "Kyou Rules" means saying the opposite of what you mean, so she declares war with Tres Espana thinking she's asking for peace.


>>139646757
Thanks.

>>139663920
Yeah, I didn't get a good picture of that one until I reread/translated it.
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>>139664432
js06, I added an Owari translation question to this and you never responded to it.
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User_talk:Js06#Owari_no_Chronicle_translation_question
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>>139664432
Masazumi, please.
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>>139664432
Wow Masazumi.
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>>139664595
I want her to declare war on my dick
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>>139664432
>while they eat.
For some reason, this excites me especially.
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>>139654205
>>139653859
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I wish i wasn't so slow at reading. I only read on a casual pace so I'm only starting england arc after like 3+ months.
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Reminder that head butler is best boy.
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>>139667410
He's the only male character in Hexennacht though.
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>>139667551
Not true, there's the USA airplane pilots and other moving scenery.
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>>139664432
Thank you!
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>>139663920
I think part of the problem is that I don't really know what Unturning Centipede looks like...
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>>139643034
Finally, Gin is super cute
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>>139642208
So what part of Russian history is being misinterpreted in this battle? That seems like the only explanation for why they would make such a convoluted attack plan.
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Because why not.
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So what does Unturning Centipede looks like?
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>>139670742
Why didn't you use this one?
>>139645948
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>>139671351
I did, though. Look at the file name.
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>>139671158
Like this, I'm guessing based on the image that;s inside this chapter.
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>>139671614
Thanks!
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>>139671614
Unturning Centipede is considered as a mobile shell and is smaller than a regular god of war, right?
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>>139672699
Yeah. Like Ironman compared to Gundam.
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>>139668640
Muneshige pls
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>>139675274
Muneshige is too asexual and slightly autistic to whiteknight Gin on futurepast 4chan
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>>139675530
Maybe its one of the guys on the Musashi.

Shitposting about 10zo when
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>>139675650
10zo's okay.

Dude has shit taste though, who fucks a younger sister?
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>>139675791
Younger sister has bigger 'aspirations', then...
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Anyone have the Neko Atsume Horizon edit?
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I hope Futayo would be in the next cover illustration.
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>>139679143
Wasn`t she in one already?
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>>139679976
Yeah. At least 4 so far I think.
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>>139679976
>>139680166
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Kyoukai_Senjou_no_Horizon

There's none
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>>139676934
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>>139680342
>Those colors
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>>139680342
>Naomasa, Miriam and Toori all got covers before Futayo
Poor Futayofags.
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Best thread.
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So this is still alive after the euronight, good.
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>>139682057
I remember someone saying that she's jobbing and getting choked nowadays.

That's not true, right?
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>>139683752
I interpreted that the wrong way
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>>139684806
You lost me.
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>>139685115
Oh my god is this Nenji.
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>>139685389
It's a bean bag

>>139685301
I'm sorry, wet man.
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Ded?
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Are there any ASAT weapons in horizonverse?

eg a weapon with a range of 2500km or more
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>>139680342
I misread that and thought we were talking about chapter illustrations.
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>>139686576
None explicitly stated so far. Some of the curse style weapons might be able to have an effect at that distance though.
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>>139686576

Kinda pointless when Japan is the only landmass in use.
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>>139686576
>>139686916
Also all their history recreation fights are with forces right next to them and when they aren't, they have to match their fighting force right up to them.
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>>139686451
best england
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Best girl coming through
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>>139687916
You`ll have to explain.
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>>139687916
All Horizons are best Horizons.
Also I fixed your image for you.
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>>139686916
ASAT weapons aren't for ground attack.

Maybe read the name.
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>>139687971
It's a bloody mary.
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>>139688348
Anti-satellite weapons are kind of worthless in a world with no satellites.
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>>139688783
I don't know anything about alcohol so I didn't recognize it, different anon though.
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>>139688348
Well, you can probably classify dragons as that.
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>>139675791
Narumi is actually younger than you so... you.
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>>139693648
She's onee-san archetype though
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>>139693741
He still tried to hide it by lying about his birthday.
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>>139687995

I laughed IRL, well played.
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How are the LN sales doing?
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>>139660260

Here's a rough translation:

>In one hour, more or less.

>Suzu: Can... You do anything...?
>Kimi: Let's hear it from the couples around here! Now, make a line and answer!
>SU-SUZU!
>Tomo: Hey, Kimi!
>Kimi: If you want to complain, say it to Reine des Garous.
>Margot: Hmm..? Well, both of us is a woman so...
>Ukki: Narumi, how about me? Hm?
>Narumi: Do I have to say it?
>Heidi: It's quite easy If I go for it~
>Gin: If it's about speed, Master Muneshige won't lose to anyone!
>Muneshige: Gin-san, wait! It's a trap question!
>Mary: If it's about speed, Master Tenzou is 1st special duty officer. I'm sure he won't lose.
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>>139696650
just. LOL.
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>>139695688
Pretty well. Sales-wise, the LN always ranked on the top 10.
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>>139698062
As usual.
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>>139698142
The addiction to Kawakamin is too strong!
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>>139682057
>>139683752
>>139685115
>>139685485

I remember last two Kawakamithreads shifting into this, is it becoming a trend?

I love it. Post Futayos.
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>>139698774
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>>139644932
Well aren't you pleasant person to converse with?
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>>139696650
What about
>>139660209
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>>139698774
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Would Hexennacht work as an OVA series?
I'm thinking like 60 minutes long episodes.
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>>139704542
With enough budget? Should be pretty straightforward from what we've seen so far. The big issue is getting a studio that can handle the fight scenes in a competent manner.
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>>139698561
>>139698142

It just goes to show that catering to a smaller number of devoted fans works pretty well, even compared to mass-market hits. It bodes ill for adaptation chances, though. One of the main reasons LNs get anime adaptations is to boost sales, and not having much mass market appeal means that doesn't work. Horizon didn't see much of an uptick after the anime aired, as I recall.
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>>139704713
It got a clear boost, but it never broke to the massive levels of the ones ahead.
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>>139704542
My main concern is that it probably wouldn't sell that well. Hexennacht doesn't really stand on its own -- I'm sure basically all the people following the series were also fans of Horizon or OnC, and it's not really a good introduction to the Kawakamiverse.

I'd still love an adaptation, though.

>>139704783
That's the frustrating thing. 22k sales for BDs is obviously pretty great, but Horizon took a lot of staff dedication and lots of expensive top-tier VAs. It's just not as good of an investment as other things.
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>>139704713
They could make bank from further adaptions though, just from BD sales.
It's sad that's not how the world of LN adaptions work however.

>>139704862
I think Hexennacht could have introduced more people to Kawakami if it had been marketed more (and not as "another series by that guy who makes long-ass light novels). As a novel, it's not particularly hard to understand or get into.
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>>139704963
>They could make bank from further adaptions though, just from BD sales.
That makes sense in theory but there's still the investment cost from VAs and good production schedules. Not to mention we don't know how much goes to the publisher instead of the studio once sales start returning the investment.
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>>139705095
We have to think about what the other investment options are, though. As long as there are series that sell at least as well and are cheaper to make, further adaptations won't happen.
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>>139705095
I highly doubt any anime is made with a profit margin above ~10k sales per volume (not counting things they're sure will rake in money anyway). I'm not doubting Horizon cost a bunch to make, or that the LN sales boost wasn't as great as it could have been, but I just don't think there's any way it didn't also make a pretty hefty profit.
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I refuse to believe there is no doujin of Nate and Adele doing knightly things.
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>>139707150
Maybe it isn't scanned yet.
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Ded?
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>>139707984
DES!
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>>139660209
>>139700986
Rough translation:

>Maman now

>Nate-maman: Seriously... Your friends are being nice and left you two alone, yet you do nothing... How pathetic.
>Nate: Mind your own business!
>Nate: Be-besides... What can I do in less than one hour anyway...
>Nate-maman: My, Nate! What are you saying!?
>Nate-maman: Everytime we take one hour break in a meeting, I always have enough time to make love with your father, you know...!!
>Nate-maman: Ah... That's right! I need to hurry! AH!
>Nate: Can't you at least cut the transmission first!?
>Nate: I've had enough with my parents!
>Nate-papa: Ah... Sorry Nate... I will cut the...
>Nate-maman: Don't look away from me~
>Nate: That's not the problem here...
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>>139709018
Jesus. Poor girl gets no mercy whatsoever, does she.
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>>139709018
>That nate-papa face
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>>139709018
Nate papa is more girly looking than i thought
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>>139711431
Well he looks like he's still a shota.
The only boy I can recall even remotely as girly is Azuma.
And Toori, but that's a different matter.
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>>139704862
>>139704963
How much are the Hexennacht LN sales anyway?
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>>139713659
~10k?
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>>139713659
>>139714041
Gekitotsu no Hexennacht Vol.2
8.194

Only data I found is for first week sales.
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>>139698774
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>>139698774
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>>139716190
This means it's raising, if I remember it right.
First volume didn't even have 6k in its first week.
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>>139709018

Appears an ilustration of Nate-dad on the LNs?
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>>139646757
Thanks
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>>139721426
Not so far in the translated stuff.
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>>139721426
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>>139721612
How is he still so tiny?
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>>139721798
Her werewolf powers are keeping him that way.
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>>139721612
He didn't grow in size but he did age, right?
yfw your dad is a shota
>>
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>>139723542
this is pure wife material right here
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>>139721612
Really? I donĀ“t imaginated like that when i read LN3.
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>>139660260
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>>139723771
To be fair, all the automaton maids are all prime wife material
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>>139721612
I wonder how big his dick is
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>>139725611
Nate Maman implies it's pretty big at one point.
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>>139725854
>stop growth of husbando
>channel said growth to only his dick
Sounds like something the Reine De Garous would do.
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>>139725435
I miss #8-kun.
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>>139726440
I miss Sf.
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>>139726747
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Neito a cute
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>>139645675
>...and Malga cheated on Mar.
When? How?
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>>139728981
Her VA did porn at some time of her life. AKA the Honk incident.
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>>139729084
I thought for sure horizonbros of all anons would not give a shit about that.
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Best thread.
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>>139698774
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>>139732020
It`s like she`s challenging me or something.
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>>139732091
eating competition?
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>>139732239
Oh, I`d eat that.
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>>139732303
They do look delicious.
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>>139732448
Yep.
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>>139702984
Horizon has given me this odd thing for bare shoulder blades.
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Adaptation when?
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This thread have survived two euronights? What is this weird magic?
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>>139724059
The LN described him as small and childish too. He is basically a male Anne.
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>>139736150
And Anne got them together in the first place. Why did she have to go, goddamn it.
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>>139736123
Kawakami magic
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>>139737366
best magic
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>>139737366
It ain't exactly magic though, what with all the explanation behind how it all works.
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>>139737658
I wonder how much ATELL euroanon produces.
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>>139738941
I`d watch her AV.
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>>139738949
What would a wingjob from Naruze feel like?
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>>139739254
Positively magical.
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>>139738949
AV with Margot?

>>139739254
>>139739508
Stop, Gacchan is for Margot alone!
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>>139738949
>>139739254
>>139739508
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>>139739950
Be careful with that spear, it's quite prone to breaking!
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>>139740332
There, now Futayo will have to marry me.
That's how it works in Horizon, right?
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If only...
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>>139740633

You want to marry Tadakatsu? But that's gay , anon.
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>>139740806
You know that game is an actual thing right?
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26334492
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>>139742221
http://vectorspace.seesaa.net/s/article/428196539.html
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>>139742266
Is there a mirror link anywhere? I don't have access on this one.
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>>139732448
Agreed
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>>139740633
Is Futayo old enough to marry? Her age and birthday wasn't mentioned.
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>>139742576
>Is there a mirror link anywhere?
I managed to download it just fine, so there is now:
https://a.pomf.cat/oulgih.zip
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>>139740806
Have they been adding characters and levels to that doujin game?
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>>139743225
Thanks for the link, anon-kun!

It was pretty fun!
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>>139744244
Let`s have sex on live divine translation.
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>Kimitoasamade
>"This title sound like a yuri novel"
>Start reading
>It's exactly what's happening

Thank you based Kawakami
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EROTIC DESS
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>>139746298
HAVE A NICE DEATH
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>>139746298
HAPPY DEATH
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Is there any ETA for 4-A release? I usually read them when the epub is released but 4-A is taking really long. Is it stuck at image editing?
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>>139743027

She's still a student of the Far East, so she's below 18. 17, I'd say.
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>>139748479
4-A will be skipped since Ivan had a HDD failure and has to scan it again. The current focus is 4-B.
I can make the EPUB, but without edited images, till tomorrow if you want it.
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>>139750739
I thought he just lost the already edited images.
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>>139751144
Oh, there strikes my memory again.
Nevertheless, I'm waiting for his release before I do any image editing.

I'll make the EPUB earlier with Japanese images. Should be up this weekend.
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>>139736232
;_;
She was so small and so cute, but she was doomed from the start considering how her OnC counterpart ended up.
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>>139743313
I'm hoping that it's a screencap of a work-in-progress update and not just a render.
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>>139752234
Wait, who was her OnC counterpart?
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>>139752321
Artemis
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Ded?
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>>139752375
Oh okay, that makes sense.

For any other author, all these uncanny resemblances between series would be called out as lazy writing, but Kawakami's reincarnation and inheritance concepts have taken care of that...

I enjoy trying to figure out counterparts far more than I should.
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JUST
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BELIEVE
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>>139738941
>>139738949
>Love Live is finally dead thanks to this whore
>we'll also never get S3 thanks to this whore

This isn't how it was supposed to happen.
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>>139755534
>this whore
Rude
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>>139755534
LL is not even remotely dead, you`re paying too much attention to /a/ threads if you believe it is.
Three endlessly repeated photos of somebody`s autistic rage is not proof.
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>>139755994
actually I'm sure muse is dead because their contracts expired which is why the final live was a thing
Sunshine is shit, fight me
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>>139756083
Sunshine is indeed faceless compared to original cast, no fight for you.
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>>139756083
At the least now they can get some well-earned breaks and go to the beach or something.
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>>139738949
What happened? Don't tell me some 3DPD crap is also in the way of Horizon 3
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>>139757219
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-04-04/emi-nitta-agency-denies-reports-that-voice-actress-appeared-in-adult-video/.100664
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>>139757219
>>139754762
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>>139757516
>>139757643
Goddamn that's past pig disgusting at this point
But at least it's good that Love Shit is even deader now. I expect Sunrise to fall back to Horizon in time
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>>139758118
The point is that Emi Nitta is Malga's VA.
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>>139754026
How do I get myself a Suzu?
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>>139758405
Sneak up behind her and yell loudly then pick her up and run.

Warning, automatons might show up and slap your shit.
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>>139758796
>Getting slapped by Musashi and/or her clones
Worth it. I'm doing it now.
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>>139758376
>a VA with nymphomania voiced a lesbian
I don't know what to say.
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>>139759450
Great choice on part of director I say.
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>>139756083
I don't care at all about LL, but I feel bad for the Sunshines. They were already fighting an uphill battle and now they're completely ruined because one of their predecessors was a whore.
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>>139760794
I feel bad for rinfag.
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>>139721426
What the fuck kind of half ass typesetting is this
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Where do you start with this?
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>>139763890
From the start.
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>>139763890
Episode 1
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>>139763890
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=City_Series:Volume1_Prologue
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Owari_no_Chronicle:Volume1_Prologue
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Horizon:Volume_1_Prologue
Any of those three. Keep reading till your eyes bleed with tears of laughter.
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>>139763924
>>139763993
Classic
>>139764058
Thank you.
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>>139764115
Be careful of Kawakami`s fights. Those are known to mindfuck people.
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>>139764169
When does that happen exactly?
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>>139764258
Every goddamn volume. There are some examples up the thread. You`ll learn to love them eventually, too.

>kicking the moonlight
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>>139764353
Does it even matter where I start (talking about the three links above)
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>>139764464
Not much. All of Kawakami`s works happen in one metaverse, but they are literally milennia apart, and are directly connected only by overarching physical concepts. You may get some veiled joke reference to the other era, but that`s it.

As other anon said, you can start with either one. CITY series is his first, and it`s 90s anime as fuck in terms of writing style. OnC is what made him famous, and Horizon seems to be his neverending magnum opus. If you start from it, it may be beneficial to watch anime first, but it`s not really required.
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>>139764464
Even if they are in the same universe they are standalone, but somre vague references can be found. So it doesn't really matter.

City was written first, but the translation is still midway. Owari is a very good entry point because it starts with less characters and factions than Horizon and it's easier to follow. Also some concepts in Horizon find their origin in Owari. Add that the main character is awesome.

But yeah, you can start with any of them really.
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>>139764746
>>139764798
Kawakamifag hivemind in action.
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>>139764798
>>139764746
Thanks. I'll start with Owari then or maybe watch the Anime to start.
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>>139765010
Those are both just about the best starting points.
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>>139765010
Mind that the Horizon anime can be a bit hard to follow at first, so if you have any question you should ask here.
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>>139765010
And then there is Hexennacht, which you can also find on bakatsuki.

If you decide to go with anime, know that like first four episodes are essentially a setup for all that happens later. It`s told from the perspectives of different characters, but timeline for all four is the same, consult picrelated. You will probably get confused, it`s okay to ask it the threads.
Then action starts, and it never really stops.
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Hey, I got one more.
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>>139765281
Hm okay. Just thinking about going with Anime as I usually get into series via anime then transition into it if I like it or not. But thanks for all the info.
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>>139765653
You`re welcome.
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>>139765760
Horizon's reading choices are the best.
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>>139765819
Absolutely. Especially considering she requested it knowing her life might end in a couple of hours.

I like Pope`s tastes in entertainment too.
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>>139765760
This is the first I've noticed this is metal mixed with ancient Japanese aristocracy dress code.
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>>139766155
I guess Kawakami and Satoyasu`s autism rubbed off of somebody at Sunrise.
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>>139766269
The other book Horizon reads is mentioned in the LN so I'm being Khwarizmi designed that.
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>>139766597
Phones are shit. That was supposed to say Kawakami
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>>139766597
>Khwarizmi
Are you okay, anon?

Saki shares Horizon's director, Manabu Ono, and many VAs (mostly due to sheer scale of their casts). I'd read a cross-over.
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>>139765191
>>139765281
I love how in these threads it's always "You'll have questions, come back here to ask"
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KAGAMI
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>>139752375
>>139754491
Talking about OnC counterparts on Horizon, Sayama's counterpart is Masanobu, right? So Masazumi for Shinjou?
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>>139769930
Masanobu is too restrained to be Sayama
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>>139771766
But at least he have some of Sayama's craziness. So he might be one of Sayama's descendant?
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