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Finally

http://dengekibunko.jp/books/1604new-toaru15/?page=1
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Can anyone give a summary?

We will likely have it fully translated this evening or tomorrow afternoon regardless but a summary woukd be nice
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>Rock on Right Arm

Touma and Kamisato form a band?
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>>139639812
Guest starring Fiamma when?
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Amazon says the book has 440 pages. I'd say that means stuff happens.

Can we drop the meme it's a SOL comedy novel that will have shipping

I doubt Kamachi will give us 440 pages of blushu Mikoto and salty Misaki being ~misled~ into haremshit hijinx
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>>139640483

I knew it, time to see Yuiitsu go apeshit on the city. FIVE_Over, dark matter, something crazier than agitate halation, etc. Should be fun.

Also I'm sticking with my guess that Salome is a time stopper. Index was kind of due for one.
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>>139640554
I mean, I'm not saying Kamachi /couldn't/ write a sol comedy shipping novel if he wanted, but I don't think it'd be 440 pages even if he decided to have Mikoto confess and hear Touma's answer.

I think it'll be mainly serious. If she is a time stopper, I at least hope she's interesting and not "here, watch the Level 5s job" fodder
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>>139640658

I don't know why people keep pushing that shipping shit anyways, if something like that was going to happen this volume you'd think that mikoto would be on the cover.

NT13 was kamachi's answer to those fans, I doubt mikoto will be relevant again for a long time. She probably won't even be one of the level 5s that appear here.
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>>139640730
Yeah, if Salome is serious she likely won't be the Level 5 that appears relevantly. I'm guessing Accelerator, Kakine, and Gunha now have have a higher chance of appearing now that the volume is leaning more towards serious
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>>139640786

My best guess would be Mugino. There is no way kamachi will miss an opportunity with hamazura and the bunny girl.
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Ironically I don't think it was it was the shippers that were pushing the "this volume will be lighthearted and have shipping"

I think it was the people who actually dislike the ship pandering that were claiming the novel will be shipping.

As in "ugh, it'll be another volume full of blushing doushio and ship pandering that will go nowhere"
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>>139640892
I don't think the bunny girl joke is that important. I mean if Mugino fits, sure, but I doubt he will force her to fit so he can "have an opportunity with the bunny girl"
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>>139640937

I'm just saying it could be a way to get ITEM introduced to the volume. We have no idea what Yuiitsu is planning, and if I absolutely had to make a guess I'd say it's taking advantage of takitsubo's powers.

This should be a full science-side volume since no magic gods are left besides othinus, who isn't worth much now.
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>>139640483
>Amazon says the book has 440 pages. I'd say that means stuff happens.

Not necessarily. This doesn't mean much in Raildex.

>I doubt Kamachi will give us 440 pages of blushu Mikoto and salty Misaki being ~misled~ into haremshit hijinx

I wouldn't put it past Kamachi, to be honest.

>>139640554
Wait before we get a summary of the preview before getting your hopes up. Learn your lesson from past LNs.

>>139640730
>She probably won't even be one of the level 5s that appear here.

Hopefully you will be right.
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>>139639741
Also, is this the worst cover of all LNs?
It looks completely anti-hype. Two new characters we never saw or were never mentioned before and then we have the TouMAN falling for whatever reason. The cover doesn't spell well for the LN this time.
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How was NT14?
I'm on the verge of dropping this each volumes for a while now
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>>139641118
Definitely the worst cover of all LNs. It's shittier than NT12's
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>>139641205

Better than the past three volumes for sure. Kamisato is a nice addition, and he does us a favor by removing the magic gods.
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>>139641205
A bit better than the past volumes, but not by much.
I wouldn't blame anyone who drops this series now.
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>>139640483
>440pages
>That feel when shit hitting the fan once again
I don't know if I should be more hype for this or Vinland Saga
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>>139641118

Yeah, NT15's cover is rather limp.

My favorite is OT19 simply because back when I first started reading it looked like something from a completely different series to me, and got me pumped. I was still recovering from the battle royale.
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Someone attempting to summarize the preview when?

Doesn't have to be perfect. Just as long as it an actual attempt and not "make fake shit up"
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>>139641320
>Touma does a thing
>Kamisato does a thing
>everything according to the plan

Is this good enough?
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>>139640483
>Index series
>Anything important ever happening
God damn this series just needs to end,
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>>139641320
No Level 5 appears. Touma gives Kamisato his number, which the latter tsunderily accepts.
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>>139641320
It starts with the end of the battle last volume. Touma lost an arm due to WR, blood everywhere, when he regained consciousness, Kamisato is no where to be found. Touma wonders how IT can beat Kamisato who destroys perfect Magic Gods when it got crushed by 50/50 Othinus. It ends with Touma pondering "Is this really the same "thing" as last time???"
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>>139641320

Doubt anyone will be translating at this hour.
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>>139641450
I'm honestly expecting something very close to this.

I don't expect a huge battle between a Level 5 and Salome to break out or anything like that but I'm hoping for hints/foreshadowing at what may happen the rest of the volume
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Looks like the last 2 pages may be about the Level 5s being in danger?

Waiting for a more reputable source on that.

But >>139641490 is confirmed true

Looks like a serious volume it is
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>>139641959

>Level 5s being in danger

Let the jobbing begin.
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>>139641982
Jobbing for who though? The attacker or the Level 5? Could go either way
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summary when
translation when
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>>139642169
See >>139641959
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>>139641490
>"Is this really the same "thing" as last time???"
Holy mary shit in heaven, how many things Imagine Breaker contains in Touma's hand?
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>>139642311

Enough to start a zoo at this point.
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>>139642311
inb4 it's Pandora's box and every time you cut it off you get a different eldritch monstrosity.
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>>139642365
>IB was a once a an object or cave back then
oh shit son
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>white hair
>disgusting brown skin
Why do Japs do this?
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If Level 5s being in danger really is mentioned this early in the novel, you can bet this novel will be serious, especially considering it is long.

I bet all of them will appear this volume , with the most relevant ones taking the spotlight.
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>>139642544
>yfw Touma and the others successfully stop bad guy
>Level 5s never appear and that's the point since they are safe from harm
>all according to keikaku.
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>>139642594
I could see this and would also accept it if we're well written.
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The last raildex I read had the monk magic god and some guy getting mad because touma wasn't doing his job so he killed the other magic gods aside from chibi othinus. How far behind am I?
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>>139642731
One novel
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More summary when
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>>139642758
Thanks famalama
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>>139642311
>not knowing about Choronzon
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>>139643082

Not so fast, deleter-kun.
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>>139643561
I thought Magic gods that Kamisato destroyed werent at full power. Didnt mummy said they cant go to the normal world at full power becasue they would destroy it just by existing or something like that?
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>>139643561
This has already been posted. Someone in the archives said the last 2 pages were about the Level 5s and danger. I don't know whether to trust them but they did post "Touma lost an arm" before entei08 did

In other words there's more
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>>139643663
I can't see the characters for Level 5 (超能力者) in the last 2 pages but I can't actually read Japanese so it may refer to them in some other way.
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>>139641301
I miss when shit was serious ;__;
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>>139642039
Kakine.
>>139642311
So far?
Touma's right arm has
>Imagine Breaker
>Invisible Thing
>The Greater Power that Touma used to crush IT
>Dragons
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>>139643791
Even if the Level 5 mention was wrong, there stil has to be more to the preview than "Touma wakes up bloody and missing an arm from the fight" because there are two distinct chapters, Rock_on_Right_Arm and A_New_Leaf. I do t swing both distinct sections being about the same thing
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>>139643902
*I don't see both distinct sections being about the same thing

Damn phone
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>>139643865
>>The Greater Power that Touma used to crush IT
Wasn't that just a flowery way for Kamachi to say Touma used his willpower which is greater than the power of the IT?

This like people confusing the giants of the Misty Mountains as a metaphor for thunder in the Hobbit.
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So when are fremea-chan and her stand going to be relevant again? It's been a while.
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>>139643979
No, it wasn't.
Fiamma specifically described why Touma could discard that power just to get IB back.
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>>139644023
>believing in Fiamma
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>>139644039
He is reliable enough to make Aleister get out of his tube and want him dead.
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Where's the rest of the summary? Looks like we've only got the first part.
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>>139642365
>"The name of the Dweller in the Abyss is Choronzon, but he is not really an individual. The Abyss is empty of being; it is filled with all possible forms, each equally inane, each therefore evil in the only true sense of the word—that is, meaningless but malignant, in so far as it craves to become real. These forms swirl senselessly into haphazard heaps like dust devils, and each such chance aggregation asserts itself to be an individual and shrieks, "I am I!" though aware all the time that its elements have no true bond; so that the slightest disturbance dissipates the delusion just as a horseman, meeting a dust devil, brings it in showers of sand to the earth."

We also had direct reference to Aleister "Summoning a demon in the Sahara" last volume, which is a reference to when the real Crowley claimed to summon Choronzon. Pretty much confirmed that it's Choronzon at this point.
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>>139644201
The demon existing in Raildex in absolutely no way "confirms" it ended up in Touma's hand after Aleister summoned it. It's a good theory and possible but it's not in any way confirmed like you're suggesting
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AIHANA
FUCKING
WHEN
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>>139644329
I want Aihana revealed as a completely new character so I can drink Aogamifag tears
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>>139644363
Yeah, me too, Aogami should stay Aogami.

But I still want the fucking #6 to appear already.
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Who the fuck keeps deleting their posts?
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>>139644363
Aogami will appear again this time.

Mark my words.
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>>139645151
He might but it won't be important. He's also not the Number 6
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>>139645151
He wont appear ever again. Touma even transfered schools just to get rid of that faggot
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Touma just can't get a break.
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>>139646236

Hey at least his arm comes back.
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>>139640730
If it says Salome leads around the Level 5s, I doubt it'll miss more than one of them. Otherwise it'd be pretty disappointing. Don't forget, that she has christmas arc coming up for her, so nope, she's gonna stay relevant. At least as relevant as she can be.
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>>139646750
How do you lead around accelerator with his supercomputer brain? Or Misaki? Unless she is immune to her powers she cant do shit
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>>139643865
And none of these are probably his esper powers he theoretically should have gained through AC's curriculum
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>>139644363
On the other hand, I will laugh myself to death if he is. Let's see who's right.
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>>139643865
>Kakine returns once again only to get misled and job
Yeah, let's do that.
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Things I hope for:
>Birdway
>Mikoto
>Touma and Kakeru forced to bro it up for the sake of Kakeru's imouto
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>>139648506
Official marriage material
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>Recap section of the prologue includes Mikoto lamenting how useless she was against HP
I think I know who Salome's target will be
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>>139644329
>>139644363
>>139645151
Aihana won't be revealed at all. It will be an unsolved mystery for the readers.
Aogami Pierce might appear to provide some good comic relief like always, though.
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>>139644379
If that's the case, then I hope he doesn't appear just because people want him to appear.
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>>139649462
>It will be an unsolved mystery for the readers.
No, that's retarded. We got it, Aihana's shtick is his low profile, but there's no point in Kamachi not ever revealing his identity
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>>139649545
There is nothing retarded about it.
Nothing wrong with never revealing the #6. There is no point in revealing her identity. I remember when one of the editors(I think?) commented about it, saying he doesn't want Kamachi to reveal her identity. I don't remember his reasons, though. That said, no reason to reveal her, it is not like the Level 5s are that important. Only from 1, 3 and possibly the 7 are important. If she is never revealed then nothing of value would be lost.
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>>139649813
>her
>she
Aihana is confirmed male

>Only from 1, 3 and possibly the 7 are important. If she is never revealed then nothing of value would be lost.
Yeah because all characters we know so far are absolutely vital to the story right?
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>>139649884
>Aihana is confirmed male

Male is her sex, not her gender.
She is a woman, I'm certain of it. She is just in the closet about it.
Got it? In the closet, because she is always hiding. Made a funny joke this time, but who knows if it is not the truth?
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>>139649968
>this whole post
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>>139649968
>male is her sex, not her gender
Do you think japs would like this tumblr shit?
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>>139650165
Maybe they would feel like they've fallen into a Trap?
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>>139650330
Are there even two equvivalent words in japanese? Becasue many languages only have one word for both gender and sex.
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>>139650450
Good question. I know nothing about Japanese, but in Chinese as far as I know there isn't a different word for gender and sex.
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Can't wait for you all's delusions to be destroyed and this ends up being a great book with plenty of plot progression.
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Things I've heard about the preview but don't 100% trust yet:

>Mikoto's lamenting is included in a recap portion
>Level 5s being in danger is mentioned

Has anyone trustworthy made a longer summary? The whole preview can't be just Touma waking up bloody and missing an arm. I can believe most of it is a recap, though.
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Frenda did everything correct.
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>>139654810
>inb4 it's a serious novel and we get shipping too

>yfw Mikoto confesses this volume after Touma and Kakeru save all the Level 5s
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Wow they are doing a piss poor job selling this volume. Everything from the cover to the summaries just make it seem so shit.
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>>139655296
It's not even Christmas yet.
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>>139655301
Summary looks decent desu
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>>139653252
I can't wait to see you being right, but I will only believe it when I see it.
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>>139655301
If the bit about the preview mentioning Level 5s being in danger is true, that's got me interested

Waiting on trustworthy sources to give longer summary
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>>139655301
I would say they might actually be retarded to some extend. It comes with writing haremshit LNs.
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>>139649968
Fuck off.
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>>139655630
>they might actually be retarded to some extend
Judging by past records (anniversary event etc) it's pretty obvious.
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>>139656485
Okay.
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>>139654810
>>Mikoto's lamenting is included in a recap portion
Fake.

>Level 5s being in danger is mentioned
Keyword: might be.
However it's true.

>Touma waking up with a bloody mess
>True.
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>>139655562
>Level 5s being in danger
Misaka and Misaki are in danger of getting their heart broken.
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How the fuck did Nagai ruin Misaka so badly in the Railgun anime? Why did he make her out to be a moralfag when she's literally the opposite of one?
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>>139657897
>The opposite of a moralfag
Stealing from broken vending machines and staying out past curfew is pretty much the worst thing Mikoto has done, she's still largely about trying to do the right thing, protect friends sisters etc.
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>>139656758
Why such a small version anon-kun?
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>>139657897
>Useless Level 0 Espers

Even Kakine and Mugino give Level 0 the chance to be part of their teams. Damn Misaka was a bitch back then
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>>139658471
They used them as disposable mooks though, it's not as though Kakine and Mugino held them in any high regard
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>>139658471
But her team has a Level 0 too. The Seductress of her dork side organization, SISTERS is a Level 0 called Sluten.
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>>139658304
Obviously she's not a bad person, but she's very arrogant and doesn't really respect the law. For example, in Railgun S when Saten and her found all those cash cards she made Saten turn them into judgement. In the manga she just took her share of the cards and spent them on clothes.
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>>139657897
>Nagai
>make her out to be a moralfag
What the hell are you talking about?
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>>139658611
I'm simply saying that "the opposite of a moralfag" is an exaggeration. She's somewhere in the middle.

It's also kind of amusing that you're sitting here decrying that Nagai ruined her character and using evidence from yet another source that isn't Kamachi to back it up.
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>>139658703
Are you really this stupid? He literally changed her introductory scene in Railgun to make her out to be a moralfag. He changed it so that she only used her Railgun on the bank robbers car because Saten and a kid were getting hurt, and because he changed it so the car was coming right at her, making it self defense. In the manga, she literally Railgun's the bank robbers car while it's driving away from her purely because he made her spill something on her shirt, Saten wasn't even introduced yet. This is only one of many examples.
>>139658840
Kamachi writes the Railgun manga's plot. And I agree, she's not the opposite of a moralfag, just far from one. Nagai a fucking shit.
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>>139658876
Kamachi writes the filler anime plots too, what's your point?
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>>139658915
I'm sure he outlines them, but Nagai is the one who makes them shit. Nagai is a piece of human garbage, he didn't even want to do the Sisters arc because he hates it.
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>>139658471
But Mikoto still was able to establish friendship with Touma and more for him though. Also Saten and Uiharu, so she wasn't a bitch.
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>>139658967
>he didn't even want to do the Sisters arc because he hates it.
How do you hate the Sisters arc, it's one of the best
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>>139658915
Kamachi writes plots and Nagai ruins them
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>>139659018
Because Nagai is a piece of shit. He would rather animate more OOC SoL bullshit.
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>>139658967
I'm simply saying Kamachi has just as much say on the Railgun manga as he does the NagaiSpace in the anime. Saying that her character has been butchered by comparing the filler to the manga is laughable, if you want to compare to the novels go for it, but both anime filler and manga are just as canon.
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>come back to thread expecting a proper summary
>it's just mikoto shit again
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>>139658304
In the manga she blowed up a car with railgun because she got pissed off her crepe was wasted.
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>>139659081
there's no more news about the summary, so we're talking about Railgun while, otherwise the thread is gonna dead
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>>139659067
>both anime filler and the manga are just as canon
Fuck off, that's not true at all. There's a big difference between the canon manga and the non-canon Railgun filler. I've literally never seen someone try to argue that the Railgun manga isn't canon. It's not filler, it's a major part of the story. The filler in Railgun literally contradicts major parts of the mainline story. The manga doesn't.
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>>139659230
I never said it wasn't canon, but so is the anime filler. Kamachi wrote the plots for both of them. There is no difference besides your own subjective liking one over the other. Sure you can say bits and pieces of the filler like having problems with robots are misadapted, but that doesn't mean you can scratch it all off as non-canon.

Think about it this way, the dragons we saw in the Railgun manga have only shown up then and when Izzard was tripping. Every other time it's just been the invisible thing. If it turns out the dragons were supposed to be invisible does this mean I should scratch off the whole manga as being non canon while saying the filler is? Clearly not, it simply means a part was misadapted.
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>>139659392
The anime filler isn't canon. It literally contradicts canon. There was that bullshit where Misaka actually has trouble defeating robots, which is literally a complete assassination of her character and ability.
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>>139659646
Try reading the whole post next time
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>>139659694
I did, and you're argument is shit. The Railgun filler's directly contradict canon and ruin the story, the manga doesn't. End of story. Filler isn't canon, manga is.
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>>139659764
So you missed the part where the manga is also taking liberties and could very well be contradicting the canon too then?
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>>139659392
The fanfics about Accel dating Misaka are more canon than the nagai space
At least phases are a thing in the main story, there is no excuse for Nagai's butchering of the timeline
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>>139659857
Sorry to tell you anon but Kamachi thinks differently
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>>139659826
No, because the manga obviously doesn't contradict the canon. Nagaispace shit literally ruins the whole story. Kamachi obviously has a plan for the Dragons, you can't just write them off as "taking liberties". There's a reason filler is called filler, and why the vast majority of the fanbase doesn't consider it canon.
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>>139660003
>the manga obviously doesn't contradict the canon.
I think you mean "doesn't obviously".

How is it obvious he has plans for it when it has only shown up the one time and then never again? That's like saying he clearly has plans for Himegami.
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>>139660132
Because the dragons have to do with the main character of the series ability, and it's a question many people have been asking for a long time. Kamachi easily could have had Touma just negate her 5.3 form without losing his arm, or just not showing the dragons at all, but he chose to show not just one, but multiple dragons all with their own unique form. It's fairly obvious that he has plans for the future.
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>>139660212
>Kamachi easily could have
You seem to be thinking Kamachi takes a much more hands on approach to the manga than he does.
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>>139660258
Do you know Kamachi? Tell me, how much does he help with the Railgun manga?
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>>139660212
>>139660003
Please go get some fresh air.
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>>139660212
>all with their own unique form
I guess that means they also have different strenghts and Touma is right in thinking that whatever almost killed Kamisato is not the same as the one who got wrecked by Othinus.
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>>139660326
Nagai pls go.
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>>139660327
We already knew from Fiamma that Touma has more than one thing in his arm.
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>>139658533
>They used them as disposable mooks though

They use everyone as disposable mooks
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>>139660303
Just as much as he does with NagaiSpace. He said that he writes the plots for the both of them after all.
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>>139660440
Nagaispace isn't canon though.
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>>139660455
And here we're back to square one again, you can do the next loop with someone else.
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>>139660488
Ok. Nagaispace still isn't canon though, no matter how much you try to convince yourself.
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>>139660522
Keep thinking you're allowed to cherry pick what is and isn't canon even when the author says otherwise.
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>>139660568
Find me a statement from Kamachi that says the filler is canon. I'll wait.
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>>139660785
Find me one that says the manga is, I can wait for that too. all you're going to do is come back and say "but he wrote the plot" which is the same shit as the filler. The manga also doesn't kill sniper-chan despite Kakine clearly saying that ITEM killed her in the novels, want to strike off the whole manga as non canon still? Both adaptations fuck up here and there, get over it.
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>>139660785
Not who you're replying to, but it doesn't even matter if the filler is canon or not because it is just so inconsequential. It has zero effect in the real plot. Why do you guys care so much about the filler?
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>>139661006
Manga is canon because that's just how it is. Everyone in the Raildex fanbase has agreed that it's canon other than you, I don't need to prove it's canon. On the same hand, the majority of the fanbase would agree that the filler isn't canon, because it isn't. There's a fucking reason it's called "RAILdex", and not just Index, it's because the Railgun manga is worthy of being part of the main continuity.
>>139661019
Because it shits all over the characters and story that people love.
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>>139661138
>The manga is canon because it is
Wow, great logic there buddy.
>The fanbase chooses what is and isn't canon
>It's called Raildex
When have the fans ever mattered in terms of what is and isn't canon?
>>139661019
I don't give a shit about the filler, I just get annoyed by people who refuse to think about things objectively
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>>139661006
Not that anon but I think there was a twitter from an editor a while ago stating that the changes in the railgun manga were authorized by Kamachi
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>>139639741
>4 posts in
>already a shipping discussion
Literally worse than the Fatefags.
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>>139661281
And there was an interview where Kamachi said he supervised the making of the anime plots. Both don't have Kamachi saying "Yes Kakine was making shit up when he said Sniper-chan died" or "Yes Mikoto should lose to robots" is my point.
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>>139661260
I think it's very clear that the large majority of people who read Railgun and Index think of Railgun as canon. I don't know why you don't. The reason people fucking hate the filler(me included) is that it fucking sucks. It doesn't fit the tone of the universe, it doesn't fit the characters, it makes characters that are normally smart straight retarded, and it flanderizes others, like Kuroko. I don't like her that much in the manga, but she's a million times better than she is in the anime.
>>139661356
>shipping discussion
Are you a fucking retard? Maybe you should read the rest of the thread retard. Kill yourself.
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>>139661404
Kamikoto shipping --> Mikoto --> Railgun filler discussion

We all know it'll loop back when the summary drops, don't kid yourself.
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>>139661496
There's nothing wrong with discussing Mikoto and Railgun filler, the shipping shit makes up a tiny portion of this thread.
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>>139661356
Gee, aren't you underestimating Fatefags a bit too much?
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>>139661356
I dunno about that. Worse than fatefags and really just nasufags in general is a tall order. When Index starts having anime yuri comedy spin-offs where all the characters are turned into lolis then indexfags will probably comparable.
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>>139661863
>anime yuri comedy spin-offs
Nagai came close
>where all the characters are turned into lolis
I'm trying to imagine Railgun with everyone lolified and all I get is an image of Last Order wearing the Tokiwadai uniform.
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We should just let the thread die then make a new once we have more info.
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>>139662319
Did he actually say "kill"? Maybe the word he used was "yarareta", which can mean variously "got taken out" or "killed" or "defeated".
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Why does someone keep deleting their posts in this thread?
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>>139662450
>>139662790

This is the only one I've deleted, I figured I'd save the question for another time and let the thread die like the anon above suggested.
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>>139663060
If you have something to discuss, I don't see why you'd just let the thread die. It's not it's a shameless bump.
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>no season 3
>more harem pandering

it's okay because I won't be around to suffer much longer
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Illustrations when?
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I really hope that Mikoto suffers a brutal death in this volume.
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>>139663630
april 8-9
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>>139639741
Will Kamachi ever stop making new characters?
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>>139664144
Never.
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>>139664144

In what volume hasn't he introduced a new character? There's nothing wrong with salome now that the threat of more magic gods is gone, especially if she turns out to have a neat ability.
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>>139664203
The problem is Kamachi does not properly handle new characters and old characters equally. He ignores established characters for the new hotness.
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>>139664620
Nah, he ignores the new ones too to add more of them.
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>>139659970
He doesn't.

Not even Fuyukawa when taking liberties has ever messed with the Canon.
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>>139659392
Kamachi only wrote the plot for the second cour of S1, he had no hand in the NagaiSpace of Railgun S.
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>>139665311
This is a lie. He did.
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>>139665377
Show me proof.
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>shitting on the man that brought us all that screen time of this perfect goddess

Come on lads.
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>>139664620
Old has had development to some degree.

NT characters are throwing at the reader's face expecting to emoahize with them or like them.

>Kuroyoru
Edgy wannabe.
>Mjolnir
Bzzzzt.
>Saronia
Who?
>bunch of new characters for notTournament
Best we got was Bersi. And he died.
>Thor
All talk, no substance. Wasted potential.
>Gremlin
A bunch of chuunis that had cool names. Off screen jobbers.
>Othinus
A huge arc for her character whose ultimate goal by the author was use her as a device to develop Touma to be just the usual Touma and have weird ending.
>Shinka
A shit.
>St.Germain.
Unironically more plot points than the previous arc delivered so far.

>Noukan
A good character that is clinically dead before we could get to know more about Kiharas.

>Freya
Evil fetus with an untold sob story we are supposed to empathize.

>Maria
Fangirl and stalker.

>HP
Good character that died too soon.

>magic gods
They were a mistake

>Kamisato
A tool to fix the mistake.
____
Now what should we expect from Salome?

She could be another Saronia misleading Touma and his allies like in Hawaii.
Or she could be a St.Germain with plot hints here and there.
But.at the end the only certain thing we will get is

>No on-screen punches from Touma
100% sure
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>>139665413
Anime Saten isn't even good, she's shit compared to manga and Railgun SS Saten.
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>>139665413
Go home Nagai. Put a leash on Okada while you're at it.
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>>139664620
That's only in Index, he does a good job of things in HO and Zashiki usually.
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Anyone else wants more Touma and Fukyose baseball shenanigans? I kind of miss those times were she had interactions with the trio
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>>139665957

Fukiyose is a thing of the past now that she's getting replaced by bikubiku usagi-san. You like bunny girls, don't you?
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>>139665467
Thor is the only new character I really liked, but I kind of agree with you, his initial introduction is interesting, but after that he's not as compelling, and now Kamachi's thrown him into the used pile with everyone else.
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>>139666357
>You like bunny girls, don't you?
The only bunny thing she has is her hair bow
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birdway best girl
>Super sadist
>Leader of one of the most powerful magical cabal
>Bossy and arrogant in a non-overbearing and kawaii way
>Strong-willed
>Respectable
>Instills awe
>A normal magical who worked hard to be at Saint level
>Is that cool and awesome character you can count on not just because she's strong, but there's something special about her who can do things that normal magicians can't do or achieve
>Anti-heroine who has a main objective that opposes the MC and his faction, but also has common objectives
>Isn't afraid to do questionable things and get her hands dirty
>Top tier gap moe
>Tsundere for her onii-chan
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>>139667217
>That feeling when you see your write-up being used by other people

Definitely though.
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>>139639741
Who is this slut?
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>>139667357
New character.
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>>139667357

Brown DIO
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Obligatory.

GODDESS TIER
Othinus
Will-tan
Orsola
Itsuwa
Misaki

TOP TIER
Seria
WORST
Kanzaki
Kongou
10077
Fukiyose
10032
Saiai

HIGH TIER
Last Order
Dolly
Himegami
Yomikawa
Laura
Awaki
Saten
Misuzu
Nephtys

MID TIER
Maria
Mikoto
Sasha
Leivinia
Mugino
Arisa
Umidori
Fremea

LOW TIER
Lessar
Index
Vento
Uiharu
Rikou
Komoe
Mitsuari

SHIT TIER
Marian
Oriana
Kuroko
Hyouka
Angelene
Patricia
Niang Niang

WORSE THAN SHIT TIER
Frenda
Sherry
Haruue
Banri
All of Kamisato's harem
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>>139667546
Leivinia should be higher, Misaki and and Saten should be lower.
Acceptable overall.
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>>139667699

>Othinus and Misaki in goddess
>But Saiai and Leivinia aren't
>Frenda and Lessar that low
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>>139668224
I did say Misaki and Leivinia shouldn't be where they are, come on. I'll give you Lessar and Saiai, but Frenda and Othinus are fine where they are.
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>>139667217
Best girl indeed.

I hope she's still around in NT15 since it's almost immediately after NT14 and she's just hanging around in Touma's apartment or something where she sneaks into the bathtub to cuddle with her onii-chan every night
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When will Touma die and feel the sweet relief of death?
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>>139667546
No.

GODDESS TIER
Othinus
Mikoto
Will-tan
Birdway

TOP TIER
Saiai
Seria
WORST
Lessar
10077
Fukiyose
10032
Umidori
Last Order

HIGH TIER
Dolly
Himegami
Laura
Kongou
Awaki
Sasha
Misuzu
Frenda
Misaki
Kanzaki
Komoe

MID TIER
Patricia
Nephtys
Niang Niang
Mugino
Arisa
Itsuwa
Index
Kuroko
Angelene
Saten
Misuzu
Fremea
Ellen

LOW TIER
Vento
Uiharu
Rikou
Orsola
Banri
Haruue
Yomikawa
Elza
Claire

SHIT TIER
Oriana
Hyouka
Sherry
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>>139667546
>index
>not worse then shit tier
Anon plz.
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>>139668744
Index is main girl and winner no matter how much you hate her or want some other girl to win
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>>139668744
Go home Mikoto.
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>>139668744
Index is bad, but not quite HARUUE-SAN-tier, that's too harsh.
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>>139667546
>lessar
>low
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GODDESS TIER
Saten

TOP TIER
Uiharu
Haruue
Banri

IRREDEEMABLE SHIT TIER
Everyone else
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>>139668974
I don't know, Index is mid tier at best along with Mikoto.
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>>139668646
>Uiharu low
>Frenda high
Go away.
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>>139669059
t. Nagai
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>>139643979
> confusing the giants of the Misty Mountains as a metaphor for thunder
The existence of trolls makes giants much less likely to be metaphor.
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>>139669059
Nagai go away, all of the railgun girls are total shit, especially compared to Kamachi's other works.
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>>139669059
>No Frenda
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>>139669059
I wonder who is behind this point.
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>>139669142
Uiharu is good when she's not the derpy Cloverfield version.
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>>139641490
This would be more jarring if Kamisato didn't say it happened because it absorbed too slow. It took time for the gods too and they literally let it happen.

>That’s why it managed to eliminate Kamijou Touma’s Imagine Breaker yet still got hit by what lay inside. It doesn’t evenly erase everything at the same time. There’s a slight time lag, unfortunately.”
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>>139669290
Doesn't change the fact that she's inferior to the girls from HO and ZW
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Preview translation?
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>>139668646

GODDESS TIER
Mikoto
Index
Will-tan

TOP TIER
Orsola
Lessar
Umidori
Itsuwa

MID TIER
Saten

SHIT TIER
Uiharu

WORSE THAN SHIT TIER
Everyone else

Fight me
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>>139669092
>Still hating Frenda even after latest Railgun manga arc
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>>139669464

When our nip friends wake up.
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>>139669510
>js06
>nip
>not a loli computer
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>>139669551
No, you idiot.
Kamachi is the computer, js06 is just the english patch.
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>>139669385
>Kamisato used WR
>Touma used IB
>Isn't effective
>IB gets deleted!
>Touma faints
>Suddenly, IT
>Kamisato activates WR
>Gets hit
>WR deletes IT
>Kamisato got injured but ultimately won
>Noukan tries to vulture him
>Noukan uses AAA
>Isn't effective because Aleister a shit.
>Noukan meets the stick
>Noukan loses the fight
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>>139669640

Kamisato needs to pay for beating up the 80 year old talking dog. I hope Yuiitsu shits on him and his sister.
>>
So is anyone going to give us a full summary? There's no way both chapters are just about Touma and his arm. I'm partially convinced there's more to the rock_on_right_arm than just Touma's arm. There's no way turn_a_new_leaf is still about Touma and his arm
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>>139669755
>Kamisato needs to pay for beating up the 80 year old talking dog.

>implying Kamisato would just leave him kill him
>implying Aleister didn't send Noukan knowing he would job
>implying isn't Aleister fault
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>>139669755
Salome is not his sister. She's called "the little sister" People just think she's his sister because he's mentioned by her. He's not her brother in any sense
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>>139669812
when jso6 finishes translating anon.
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>>139669871

Obviously, I assumed they're NBR like tsuchimikado and maika or she just calls him onii-chan for shits and giggles.
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>>139669755
Blame Aleister. He fucked up, and he knows it.
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>>139669936
Usually there's summaries before that. I'm guessing it doesn't matter now because we are likely getting a full translation tonight anyway. Js06 never keeps us waiting long.
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>>139669972
They likely don't even know each other. She likely just fits the archetype
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>>139670087
> archetype
Fucking Crowley is at it again.
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I hope kamisato's harem doesn't hog a lot of time like last volume. And I hope they don't take up much art work again.

I really don't like them. Maybe Salome can redeem this mistake.
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>>139670620
How come Crowley can't control Kamisato if he fits "The Rival" archetype so fucking much?
>>
>>139670730

Probably in his own special category, like hamazura.
>>
Isn't Aleister's power basically meme magic?
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>>139670887

I thought meme magic was carissa.
>>
You know what time it is niggas.

I haven't been keeping up with the news, someone tell she's appearing in this volume as well?
>>
Next LN Kamachi should introduce Kamisaka Tokoto, a mysterious time traveller from the future.
She is after her parents, but she doesn't know their names or what they look like. Just giving some of the best ideas I had while in the toilet.
What you guys think?
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>>139671473
You'll have to be more specific, because I can't even begin to guess who the fuck is that person in pic related. Is it Birdway? Is it Patricia? Hell if I know, Raildex has far too many blonde lolies.
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>>139671473

There's a chance, since it's literally right after the end of NT14. But it's looking like it's gonna be a science-side volume, so if she shows up it won't be for long.
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>>139670943
Carissa was just 4D magic
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>>139671621
Leivinia.
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>>139671621
>Not recognising perfection
There is only 1 noteworthy blonde loli in this series.
>>
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:NT_Volume15_Prologue
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index:NT_Volume15_Chapter_1
>>
If Salome is serious (i.e. a time stopper that is immediately going after Level 5s) I don't think she is going to fair well.

I seem to remember a certain time stopper in another series getting BTFO by "yare yare daze, you pissed me off" and that time stopper was a [spoilet]vampire[/spoiler]

I can think of one Level 5 that IS basically "yare yare daze, you pissed me off" and another 3 that could pull it off.
>>
>>139672320
Time is a vector
>>
>>139672320
RIP spoiler
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>>139671968
frenda?
>>
>>139672374
Once again
>yare yare daze, you made me mad, let me figure out how to control time too
>>
>>139672219
Is this a preview? I thought the novel was coming out on saturday.
>>
>>139672219
> Rock on Right Arm.
> Rock on, Right Arm.
>>
>“One down. No, with Zombie, I suppose it’s two.”

>“Well done. That takes care of the Magic Gods.”

>“What are you talking about? I only took out the High Priest.”

>“Then you didn’t do that?”

So that crucifying shit didn't kill zombie?
>>
>>139672483
Did you not see the stuff in the OP?
>>
>>139672545
No Zombie is dead, that was just the scene where they were wondering where the rest of the Magic Gods went because Aleister didn't hear about Kamisato murdering them, supposedly there were quite a few.
>>
>>139672545
Zombie was included in the first line, but Noukan and Aleister already knew Noukan took her out so they weren't including her in the rest.
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>>139672219
> “Why are you shouting into the mirror? Is it time for your tranquilizer?”
Poor Touma.
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>>139672581
>Reading the OP
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>“Why are you shouting into the mirror? Is it time for your tranquilizer?”

>“Oh, help me god!!”
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>>139672690
> “What, did you kill and bury Kamisato somewhere? I am a god of magic, strategy, and deception. Did you really think I would be bothered by that?”
Maybe I'm just tired, but it feels like Kamachi is going all-out with the banter right from the start.
>>
>It scared Kamijou how the High Priest was reaching the rare position of the sharp-eyed girl in a manga who only showed up in the flashback that had made the main character the all-powerful individual he was.
Is he talking about any manga in particular?
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>>139672219

Why is othinus-chan so damn cute? And fucking high priest, everything is his fault.
>>
>>139672760
>"I don't give any help to science worshipers"
Then it's settled, Touma just has to convert to the Church of Odin
>>
>>139672760
You forgot the “I don’t know what this is about, but I don’t give any divine help to science worshipers." part right after.
>>
>>139671572
I always thought Fukiyose is Touma and Misaka's time traveling daughter
>>
>>139672219
>Othinus sneaks into the school bag
Just as planned, now we can get Kamisato/Othinus trash talking
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>>139672219
>“High Priiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeest!! You goddamn mummyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!”
His legend lives on.
>>
>>139672819
>Othinus accidentally plunged head-first into the small dish of honey and the calico cat enjoyed the usual cat food.
Moe
>>
> “Gods are just awful, aren’t they!?”

> “That includes me, you know?”

> “Can you look me in the eye and swear you’ve never done anything like that, Othinus? I don’t know much about Norse mythology, but I’m betting there’s something there.”

> “Ahem.”

> He could guess what it meant when the eyepatch maiden cleared her throat.

> “Let’s see what turns up when I search ‘Odin’ and ‘cruelty’.”

> “Stop! You have to be insane to search someone’s name in front of them!”

Hah.
>>
>“Oh, help me god!!”

>“I don’t know what this is about, but I don’t give any divine help to science worshipers. If you have time to play at self Gestaltzerfall, then go make breakfast. I don’t really care, but that white nun and the feline beast are going nuts. …That calico bastard especially scares me since I think it seems me as an emergency food source. This is the problem with quadrupeds…”
best othinus
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>“Ow!! Don’t bite my earlobe that hard, Othinus!!”

I enjoy these moments but I'm afraid that they won't last.
>>
>>139672461
>Frenda
>loli
>>
>>139672972
What dick things did Odin do?
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>>139672972
Truly kind.
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>>139673029
http://mentalfloss.com/article/26051/10-disturbing-episodes-norse-mythology
> Odin practiced seidr, a form of magic considered unmanly, and was the god of frenzy, betrayal and death (in addition to inspiration and wisdom).
>>
I would enjoy Othinus 100000% more if I didn't know it will lead to autistic shipping and waifu fighting. I can't enjoy it knowing there will eventually be spergy shitflinging soon

Also did Touma just kill the "Othinus is kind" meme?
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>>139672972
>Othinus trying desperately to hide her shameful past
Hilarious
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>In the index world the norse god Odin is a gender-swapped exhibitionist wearing a witch hat that gets reduced to a 15 cm fairy after losing to a normal high school boy
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>>139673029
I don't know any specifics but he was the god of war of the vikings, one of the more dickish people in history. He was essentially god of the dicks.
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>>139673134
>Letting a fanbase dictate what you like
>>
>>139673134
No idea what you're talking about. Surely she couldn't have done anything wrong in the past.
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>>139673177
Who can swap places with the manly bearded Odin in another dimension if need be.
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>>139672219
>No Birdway
Damn you Kamachi. Not even a cute sendoff scene?
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>>139673177
Odin canonically turned into a woman to go visit gallows and steal the semen off of dead guys, so there's actually a precedent for it.
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>>139673237
Though said Odin is also kind of a dick, actually.
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>>139673269
Odin what the fuck. Then again, Loki gave birth to Sleipnir so whatever.
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>>139673327
Semen gives mana bro, need to get it from somewhere
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>>139673134
>implying Othinus is not kind

Remember: 2+2 = 5.
Do not commit a Thoughtcrime. Crimestop now.
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>>139673028
yes im glad we both agree with that
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>>139673269
>Othinus canonically turned into a woman to go visit gallows and steal the semen off of dead guys
>Touma will google this.
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>>139673269
No wonder she didn't want him to google about her.
Knowing she jacked off corpses would be awkward.
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>>139673382
One of the many reasons she probably didn't want him to google "Odin acting like a dick?"
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>>139673142
She's truly becoming Japanese.
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>I will never have an understanding fairy that makes my shoulder her home and makes witty comments

Thanks for reminding me right off the bat kamachi.
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>We still don't have summaries or spoilers
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>>139673476
Those usually come when the volume is about to be released. Come back in 2 days.
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This is the full preview, right? There's no more to translate, right?
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>>139673476
We'll have fake spoilers about Mikoto being btfo soon enough.
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>>139673525
Yes. Index doesn't get 100 page previews like Horizon does.
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>Like an interrupted line of ants, boys and girls with nowhere to go were gathered around the schoolyard.
>A bunch of highschoolers passed by Touma talking with a doll on his shoulder
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> Reading through the Zombie vs. Vampire web novel
> “Eh heh heh. Satori-kun, I’m willing to overlook a bit of mischief, but in the interest of cleanliness, try not to get my hair or clothes dirty.”
Oh dear.
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>>139673182
Some historians are now theorizing that Loki used to be the same God as Odin but over time Loki took on most of his asshole trickster persona.
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Thanks for reminding me why I like Othinus so much, Kamachi.
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>>139673615
Eh, Misaki SS had a walking talking Misaki doll. In AC that's just the latest toy.
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>>139672219
>“Don’t be stupid.”
heh
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Waifu sperging in 3, 2, 1...
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>>139673637
What, I thought it was Odur/Od who was supposed to be the same as Odin, being that he was the head of the Vanir in the same manner Odin was the head of the Aesir
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>>139673177
Kamachi ruined Odin
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>>139673476

I'm from the future and I offer you these authentic spoilers.

>Salome enters AC looking for Kamisato
>Runs across Fremea and her stand, 「Strawberry Fields」
>Cue level 5 being misled due to Salome using her time stopping
>Salome unknowingly kickstarts Yuiitsu's keikaku by doing this
>She unleashes vampires and dark matter abominations into AC to get revenge for noukan
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>>139665957
I want them to get together and have sex. They were oozing sexual tension in Daihaseisai so much.
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>>139673327
Loki fucked a giantess to father a wolf and a snake, then became a horse and got fucked by another horse to give birth to Sleipnir. Norse mythology is some weird shit.
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>>139673913
She won't even appear again. Let alone have sex with Touma. Fucking autists, man.
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Othinus a fucking shit.
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>>139674020
>Mikotofag trying to start shit again

So typical of worst fans.
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Damn, the preview doesn't really give us a lot of info to speculate. We're left right back where we were a days ago.
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>>139672781
Giving me high hopes for when Touma and Kamisato talk on the canteen. This is going to be hilarious.
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>>139674084
Fuck off Othinushitter.
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>>139673990
>>139674084

Why are you guys so easily offended and take bait so quickly? No wonder translation threads are garbage.
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>>139674020
Why is a boy wearing a swimsuit?
Is he gay?
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>>139674084
>Implying Worst fans aren't best fans
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>>139674118
Mikoto a shit.
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>>139672781
Touma's reply, poking fun at the "understanding" meme was what really got me.
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>>139674150
Mikotoshitters can't keep their butthurt in check.
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Now this turns into waifushit fighting again. Fuck off waifufags
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>>139674150
Fukiyosefags are autists clinging to some literal who because big tits
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"I don’t know what the other Magic Gods were telling you, but did you think this place had nothing at all to do with it?"

What did she mean by this?
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>>139674329
That AC fuckery could've given him IB?
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>>139674020
She is the perfection
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>>139674283
This is why I can't enjoy the Othinus banter. I hate the character but even I could enjoy the banter if I didn't know it'll lead to waifushit
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>>139658471
>was

>>139658977
She thought all low levels were just lazy shits not trying hard enough. Level upper taught her that some people just really suck at leveling up but she's probably still a condescending little bitch about it to anyone that isn't her friend.
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>>139674329
She's implying that the Magic Gods might have had a hand in Baggage City.
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>>139674360
I mean Mikoto, obviously
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>>139674362
You seem to care too much about what happens in these threads.
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>>139674329
That IB/Dragons/IT might be not purely magic but caused by Aleister or esper powers as well.
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>>139674430

Hey, maybe it's finally time for takitsubo and AIM stalker to be relevant again if that's the case.
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10032 is really cute, does she show up any more in the later novels? I stopped reading after I think NT7, but I'm thinking about picking it back up.
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I always assumed IB was natural and Aleister merely needed it, not that he had a hand in creating it.

I also always assumed it was neither magic or science but something else
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>>139674362
I could enjoy Othinus and even her autist waifufags, but her pairing with Touma literally ruin her character.
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>ctrl + f
>"purple is my life"
>0 results
H-has something happened to anon?
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>>139674555
Having Touma be worried about the IT accidentally killing someone is a good thing. It's about time we finally learnt more about the Imagine Breaker.
Maybe he'll finally know how to use it properly like Terra meant.
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>>139674555
He didn't have a hand in creating IB, but he's been developing it since Touma moved to AC, if not before. Remember, IB has been around for a long time even before Touma had it.
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>>139674605
>Terra dindu nuffing
>HP dindu nuffing
Good characters get dismissed too fast while shits like Misaka remain.
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>>139674592
I mean, it's not like romance is even being mentioned in the novels other than the occasional Mikoto appearance so she can go through the tsundere routine, so caring about that probably means >>139674406
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>>139674605
I'll believe it when I see it.
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>>139674518

Not really, she gets mentioned once in NT9 I think. More relevant characters have been sidelined for a long time, I wouldn't expect anything soon.

>>139674601

Probably took a break because the past few weeks of raildex threads have been awful.
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>>139674518
She doesn't made relevance anymore since long time, anon. Don't waste your time in this shitty novels.
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>>139674555
It's ambiguous what Othinus was talking about. I think IB is likely natural like we've been led to believe but that IT/Dragons are something else
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>Miss Understander
I fucking lost it
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>>139674755
It's too bad it doesn't sound the same in japanese because the play of Miss Understander to "Misunderstander" would have been pretty hilarious.
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>>139672219
>“High Priiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeest!! You goddamn mummyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!”
His sanctuaries are being torn down before his eyes.
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Toaru Idol no Accelerator-sama chapter 2 has been scanlated:
http://bato.to/reader#dcee206519bcb9ff
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>>139674755
>>139674803
This makes me think of Molester Man.
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>>139674848
He seemed more worried about the loss of a school day and the possibility of definitely being held back than the loss of his hangout place with the Delta Squad, though.
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>Biting Touma's earlobe

That's pretty feisty, consider me interested.
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>>139674748
>>139674719
That's unfortunate. It's why I dropped it, because the constant inclusion of characters and dropping of others made it really hard to get invested.

Does Misaka at least play a bigger role?
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>>139674362
>blaming the character for triggering autistic waifufags of other girls
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>>139674980
Kind of in NT13
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>>139674980
>Does Misaka at least play a bigger role?
She defeats a magic god
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>>139674980
>Does Misaka at least play a bigger role?
She had a novel not long ago, other than that it's the usual small little scene about wanting Touma's dick. She'll have another novel soon though.
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>>139674945
Most of her attacks are focused on his ear it seems, I can't tell if it's a fixation or just easily reachable.
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>>139675076
Oh? Color me interested.

>>139675106
>>139675028
Alright, thanks.
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>>139675076
>Trying to steal Kihara Doge's credit
>>139675145
She didn't, she helps chase him away but someone else ultimately defeats him
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>>139674925
>Delta Squad

They are just a joke about how Touma, Aogami and Tsuchimikado are always together on school and doing something stupid. They aren't really a real group.
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>>139675120

But when will you have a pocket goddess to berate you and keep you on the right path?
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>>139675145
She didn't defeat jack shit, all she did was run away with Touma and send the Magic God to space. Of course it didn't work and the Magic God went back at full force, but a Kihara defeated him with the help of Aleister.
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>>139675120
>I can't tell if it's a fixation or just easily reachable.
Considering she punched him in the balls when she was in his pocket, it's probably a reach thing.


Unless she has both a testicle and ear fixation. The testicle fixation would make sense with her literal semen demon background now that I think about it.
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>>139675201
>Othinus
>keeping you on the right path

She is an exhibitionist fairy bitch who is trying to seduce a teenager boy with her smell, she is pure degeneracy.
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>>139675163
I wasn't using it concretely, I meant it in that exact sense, doing stupid stuff with Aogami and Tsuchimikado at school.
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>>139675237
Don't let Touma google that.
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>>139675237
Well she tried to curtail Touma from cutting people off, so she's got some idea in mind at least even if she's shockingly fine with him killing and burying people if it comes down to it.
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So guys.

You still think this will be a not-serious shipping volume?

Or do you think it'll be serious?

The opening was far more tense than I was expecting. Even the Othinus gags were littered with ominous tones by Touma being worried about the origins of his powers.

I could see the novel being pretty serious. Then again, the seriousness can be thrown out the window later.
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>>139675237

You want to bite her cape too, right? Don't lie anon, you're among friends here.
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Threadly reminder.
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>>139675293
The volumes opening with Othinus banter seems to just be the regular way to open a volume lately, so I don't think that bears much on how the story is going to go later.

I expect it'll be somewhat serious, about as much as the Thor volume was perhaps, but it could go deeper if we're not brushing off the IT shenanigans like I thought we would.
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>>139675293

I'm expecting some twists and darkness, followed by Touma legitimately getting held behind before Aleister himself intervenes to save his ass for his plan.
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>>139675329
I'm just curious about her smell, it is all.
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>>139674945
>Index 2.0 worst version

I really hope that Othinus suffers a brutal death soon
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>>139675440
>Aleister himself has to step in to stop Touma from being held back a grade
I want this
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>>139675501
Going by the myth, Othinus should smmel like semen
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I'm still a bit behind on the novels, but if this new volume involves the level 5s does that mean the hero we deserve might show up?
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>>139675627
Just because you eat something every now and then doesn't mean that's what you'll smell like. Certainly this volume she probably smells like honey.
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>>139675607
>comparing Othi-chan to Bitchdex
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>>139675671
>Implying she isn't showering in semen while Touma sleeps.
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>>139675627
Blood too. Odin had a kill count in the infinity.
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>>139675666
It's not confirmed yet, though, but that is all of us wanted to save this lower hype
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>>139659646

Have you forgotten Kamachi's fact?

He wrote the idea for the filler arc and it is canon too.

Some of the parts are also re-mentioned in the novel like characters in the index movie.
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>>139675702
>not posting the webm version
Kill yourself.
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>>139675618

It keep getting more and more ridiculous, with the US president, the Queen and all these figures asking for Touma to be pardoned from his absences.

It's not like it'll be that special since the whole world now knows who Touma is after he saved Othinus.
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>>139675781
So? It doesn't changes the fact Nagai whiped his ass with it and modified it to fit the way he liked even if it contradicted the canon.
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>>139675742
If she was she wouldn't still be a fairy
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>>139675781
Doesn't mean they're canon.
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>>139675702
>posting worst girl
The shit taste is strong on this one.
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>>139675847
Reminds me of the theory that Aleister would personally make it rain ramen if Touma was in serious danger of starving. I'm disappointed it wasn't the actual explanation for him surviving at the start of this volume.
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>>139675781
Ignore them anon, they're posters who think that fan majority gets to decide what's canon and isn't, it's not worth it.
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>>139675781
nagai pls
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>>139675920
Rather than rain ramen, Aleister would probably make some food truck have its freezer fail in it and have the driver ask Touma if he could help with the food before it goes bad or something else low key.
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>>139675702
Your slut cyclops isn't more than a shitty draft copy of Index, faggot. She is the reason why NT series is just begin a totally shit
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>>139676204
>ESL Indexfag is this mad

Othinus is nothing like Index, and she's a vastly better character.
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>>139676345
I think anon meant, "They're both serving the role of character who tags along mc and explains shit".
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>>139676435
I think he meant "being a total shit" but that's pretty vague and can apply to any a number of characters
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>>139675358
I'm mad that they treat the Railgun Daihaseisai arc like it never happened. Mikoto was literally becoming an unstoppable being akin to a god and literally nobody notices this in the middle of the most televised day in history.
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>>139676613
Same shit happened in Battle Royale. Accelerator and Kakine were literally flying through the city fighting each other to the death in the middle of the day, ending with hundreds of Anti-Skill attempting to stop it and getting BTFO before a fucking loli version of Misaka Mikoto comes in and hugs Accelerator after he murders Kakine.
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>>139676613
Aleiser's information control network is god-tier.
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Touma's thoughts about his misfortune past brings some interesting questions.

Was Imagine Breaker complete before he came to AC or was it completed after he arrived there? Could his misfortune past just be from Aleister's magic/manipulations since he didn't have IB yet?
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>>139676435

But one is the new hotness in terms of narrator sidekick, and other only eats food and has stayed out of sight for many volumes, with exceptions.

The new one also teases Touma too and cute banter arises from the two. The other just yells at Touma and bites his head.

I think of Othinus as Index 2.0 after he learned where he went wrong with Index herself.
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>>139676435
In that case Othinus is Index done right.
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>>139676741
Well that's the million dollar question isn't it?
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>>139676820
>>139676840

>In that case Othinus is Index done right.

>I think of Othinus as Index 2.0 after he learned where he went wrong with Index herself.

Are you me? Stop posting
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Index 3 Facebook page is doing a great translating the manga that no one pick up. I loving this chapter!
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>>139676944
It's not like that's an uncommon opinion anon.
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>>139676840
Index fucking off to Stiyl when?
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>>139677130
After Laura reclaims her for the endgame.
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>>139676980
Looks like shit. Sasuga facebook.
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>>139677607

It's better than no one translating the damn thing,anon.
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I bet Fate/Grand Order translation community is better than Index translation community.

They are well-united and have more manners than Index anon /a/ fags though there are salts everywhere in fate community.
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Since Othinus is here, the things have become quite boring, Kamachi can fix the problem removing her and give her other role as antagonist because there is something that can't you deny and it is the copy-paste from Index's lines. She was the best being antagonist and also was the best written for her. I'm implying how respectable she was as villain and now that brightness is gone and she's only used for pandering issues.
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>>139677943
try harder to bait and to be honest they and we have always been a messed
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>>139674980
>misaka

Just leave fuckface.
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>>139672219
>Is it time for your tranquilizer?”
his crazy
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>>139677943
Well I always prefer Fate than Index in everyway.
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>>139677943
If you mean Index translators besides js06 sure
>>
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>>139677953
Please work on your english before you keep baiting, I have to understand what you're typing before I can get annoyed by it
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>“Nothing really happened.”

>“What, did you kill and bury Kamisato somewhere? I am a god of magic, strategy, and deception. Did you really think I would be bothered by that?”

>“That’s being far too accepting!! And it’s setting the bar way too low, Miss Understander!! Of course I didn’t do that!!”

cant wait for the first kill
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>>139677943
>Fate/Grand Virgin
>better than anything
Don't you have a a Fate thread to shitpost about Tsukekhime?
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>>139675250
> there will never be a spin-off of delta force trying to break into girl's dorms to steal underwear
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>>139677943
The Index translation community is essentially one guy who carries hard, supported by a typesetter and a RAW provider.

It kind of makes the rest of us soft.
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>>139677953
Agreed, this sounds pretty good but isn't probably
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>>139676840
>>139676820
>both are exposition characters
>one has screentime
>the other doesn't
>the one that has it is flandweized
>better
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>>139677607
Do it yourself then cunt.
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>>139677953
It's disturbing seeing am antagonist lose dignity soo fast.

That's why Fiamma is best boy and antagonist.
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>>139678628
But Fiamma has become a joke too anon
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>>139678102
>those great moments about what used to be Raildex will not return.

Why even live?
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>>139678628
Fiamma hasn't done anything except get his shit pushed in extremely hard by a pair of half-powered Magic Gods.

Not that anyone else was going to do any better than he was but it's hardly a good show.
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>>139676980
Now let's see if they can keep going. They picked up Index-san and yet they still haven't caught up, they picked up the Index manga but instead got replaced by anons coming together in these threads, and now they picked this shit up, and have to be told to anti-alias their text?
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>>139678489
*flanderized
I don't even know what flandweized is.
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>>139678489
I don't understand what you're trying to say. Besides, the second anon you quoted got it right. Othinus is simply better.
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>>139678650
I fucking hate it.
>has the power to win
>loses
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>>139678679
He could but it was specifically stated that HP was a bad match.
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>>139678683
Enthusiasm makes up for lack of technical skill.

Not in the sense that it actually produces a good product, but in the sense that the fact that any single one of us has more scanlation knowledge than all of them combined doesn't actually do shit if nobody wants to do shit.
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>>“Chowing down on something sweet first thing in the morning makes me feel a bit like a bad girl."

What did she mean by this?
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>>139678725
He lost his arm though.
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>>139678778
She should chow down on Touma's dick already.
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>>139678725
He doesn't have the power to win anymore anon, Aleister saw to that
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>>139678778
She reminds of when drinks Touma's semen on his sleep.
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>>139678789
The power is inherent to Fiamma though, not his arm. Although it does make sense that he got weaker after he lost the symbol of his power, since Christianity is all about symbols and shit.
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>“Why are you shouting into the mirror? Is it time for your tranquilizer?”

what did she mean by this?
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>>139678815
>breaks in against a group of magic gods
>sneaks attack a weakened Fiamma
Fucking coward.
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>>139678864
She jacks him off.
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>>139678865
I don't see how the first one is cowardice, he walked straight through the front door to their house.
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>>139678865
Well obviously no one could beat Fiamma at his peak other than Touma, considering the fact that he was literally La Persona Superiore a Dio.
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>>139678864
You know exactly what she meant
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>>139678864
keeping that PTSD in check
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>>139678950
>he ran away before they murdered them
>waited for them to nerf themselves
>capitalizing on a spell they made because he couldn't do it himself
>even then he had his dog fight for him
crowley = pussy boi
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>>139678700
Yet crab is going to win the Toumabowl.

Isn't it sad for shippers?
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>>139679140
>murdered him
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>>139679154
who crab?
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Can someone post the "Battle Royale set up all so Misaka could grab Misaki's breasts at the end" ?
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>>139679231
>not knowing about headcrab
How new are you?
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Speaking of translations. Index chapter 74 scans where?
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>>13967930 idk i barely go through the thread i read the novels i guess im autistic
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>>139679361
Cleaning and redrawing is finished. Just needs to be translated and typesetted.
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So how does one get to smell? Who do I need to meet and pay? For research.
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>>139680796
You need to meet a goddess and pay several lifetimes
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>>139676820
Thinking about it, Kamachi did solve the problems Index had as a sidekick/exposition character by making Othinus a tiny fairy.

Bringing Index along on many situations just didn't seem feasible because she's a non-combatant or she doesn't fit and there needs to be additional explanation of why she's there. Her comedy gimmicks of eating a lot and head biting just makes it harder for Touma so it sometimes makes people bitter that she's being a burden.

By shrinking Othinus, she can tag along without needing much explanation. She can hide and only come out when conversation is needed. For example, that scene where Touma took the water pipe and had a fight with Shiage. It's hard to write Index being there to talk to him afterwards in that situation. It's similar to how shounen MCs sometimes have emphatic weapons or spirits they can conveniently talk to because the writer needs a different way for the MC to share his thoughts. Same for the walk to school. Being smaller, I doubt she eats much and her violence gags seem more harmless for most occasions too.

I still think Index will be relevant in the end though. As time passes, I'm starting to believe she's related to Crowley more and more like those theories from long ago. It's just that her role as the sidekick/exposition character got transferred which turned out better than expected.
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>>139678864

Wouldn't be surprised if Touma's food or tap water was laced with meds in order to keep him from spazzing out with PTSD.
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>>139681033
>I doubt she eats much
If you remember, she was eating out of a bottlecap as a bowl in one of the volumes so it's certainly almost nothing at all.
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>>139680910

Good price.
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>>139674518
>stopped reading after I think NT7,
>He hasn't read nt8 ,9,10
What are you doing? The next three volumes can be literally considered the best in the series especially 9
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>no one used to care about the Index manga
>now it's the only thing anyone cares about
What a strange turn of events.
>>139681285
>NT10
>good
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>>139681285

>NT8 and NT10
>best in the series
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>>139681380
Well the ending of NT10 was a bit lacking but you can't realy say anything against it.
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>>139681380
Ok fine just nine
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>>139681380
You might not have liked the ending but a lot of NT10 was enjoyable.
>inb4 it wasn't a serious boss rush like I thought it would be!
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>>139681380

NT8-NT10 was the most fun since WW3, since it had lots of fights, a new heroine, and some real dark shit for once.
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>>139681033

>I doubt she eats much and her violence gags seem more harmless for most occasions too

What Touma really needs
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>>139681533

Still waiting for that new high that the NT9-10 gave. Man those threads were amazing.
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>>139672219
>“What, did you kill and bury Kamisato somewhere? I am a god of magic, strategy, and deception. Did you really think I would be bothered by that?”
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Is this the most polarizing moment in the series? From what I can tell people either hate it or love it, no inbetween.
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>>139681777
Sorry to tell you but I didn't give a shit about the scene, thought it was a little dumb perhaps but it wasn't exactly a rage inducing moment.
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>>139681777

Most hated it as it was the same shit as already seen.
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>>139681777
Perfect.
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>>139681776

>Othinus slowly influencing Touma into becoming a monster that eats espers and magicians alive

I would read that just to read about how Othinus keeps whispering "kill them all" in his ear
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>>139677943
There's only one translator.
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