As one of Jenius her pilot skill seems not so good.
What's an Eldar doing in the new Macross?
It'll be interesting to see how she develops. I'm not sure whether she lacks talent or whether her personality holds her back (she doesn't come across as one to feel the rhythm or whatever)
>Hayate teaches Mirage to dance to rythm
I wholeheartedly support this idea.
>meltrandi are terrible at singing and cause everyone's ears to explode
>MC dances to it anyway because it's got hard beats and fierce rhythm
>together they win breakdancing championship
>tfw Mylene and Emilia are both obaa-san now
>Macross webm without sound
I hope she doesn't sing, it will bring bad memories
Because he can feel the rhythm.
I'm only here for the giant cute girls. Where are the giant cute girls? Why is the giant cute girl not giant? Why do they even shrink in the first place? Like seriously why would a physically superior species willingly bring itself down to an inferior one?
>she mocks Hayate for dancing techniques and constantly tell him how immature he is
>starts dancing and doing crazy moves herself in 2nd half
I think it's a bit early to call her shit. She seems to be new to the squad as well, being called naive girl by the rest of the crew.
It's not like she really fucked up or anything. Obviously good enough to be in the Delta squad, which should be a cut above the rest. She was slightly off timing for some show routine, which isn't a huge indicator of anything.
She got surprised by some jamming and a new enemy, from which she managed to recover from and take out the drones anyway. Maybe her mates wouldn't have handled the drones as well if they didn't see her first get hit by them.
Episode 3 preview:
■Mission 03「旋風 ドッグファイト」
>Episode 3: Tornado Dog Fight
>Mirage was assigned to be Hayate's instructor since she's the only one who is against him joining. But, Hayate refuses to listen to Mirage, besides actual flying training he skipped out on all the other training to chase seagulls. Unable to put up with Hayate any longer, Mirage --
I'm listening to it on loop right now
>Hayate refuses to listen to Mirage, besides actual flying training
At least he is learning the important stuff that he sucks at. He might already be better than her at technical/fine control in battroid mode going by his dance performance.
It's giri giri FABULOUS
Don't be a fag hag
Is anybody else concerned that having multiple love triangles within the same story will just turn it into a mess because there isn't enough time to properly develop all the relationships?
The preview already had fighting scenes in it.
It's the preview with a few more minutes past where it ended, a couple of reworked scenes and animation and a next episode preview
Well shit, so in macross universe any pilot should avoid pineapple salad and any love interest should avoid getting captured by valkyrie
We don't know about her much, but admit it she isn't the best girl even in the first episode. That title belongs to Mikumo.
That stupid brat Freyja went straight to face the enemy and should've died.
She's not marrying the MC.
It was pretty obvious that Mao was a little jealous about the attention Sara was getting from Shin and even if that wasn't an obvious cause, the entire Zero tribute episode of Frontier is about Ranka trying to get in Mao's head and trying to figure out what it's like to be in love with someone who might be in love with someone else
>Sheryl's family name is still NOME
>Both Sara and Shin are MIA
What do you think?
Who's the Eldar?
Yeah, compared to Frontier, the new one was disappointing.
>Frontier ep. 1
>Iteza Gogo Ku-ji Don't be late
>What 'bout my star?
They went all out with the first episode.
At least ikenai borderline is catchy
WHERE MY FOUR OTHER KANAME BROS AT?
>Basara is a meme.
You don't watch 7 for Basara as a character. You watch to see the reaction to Basara through everyone else
>The fucking triangle went nowhere too.
Wait a minute, it was pretty damn clear that the triangle was the least important aspect of 7 by like episode 10 that whenever they did actually focus on it, it was just terrible for everyone involved and just had Mylene act like an indecisive tool (not that she wasn't already a cunt) so that was actually a good thing
Why am I the only one who liked Love Halation The War?
Hayate with blue VF (the first MC rocking in blue) and Mirage with purple VF
Imagine their duet on the battlefield, it will be glorious as a couple.
>Mikumo as side-character
If only they replaced that annoying brat with Mikumo in the triangle.
It wouldn't be even a triangle with Mikumo. She would totally dominate the relationship giving absolutely no chance to her competitor.
But I agree, Kawamori should have picked a better character instead of that annoying brat Mirage. Worst girl. Kaname would be so much better pick to be Freyja's competitor in MCbowl.
Kawamori is going to subvert the older girl winning. I just fucking know it.
There's a first time for everything and where there's an immediately clear best girl, Mirage can only lose. F-FUCK
Yeah it will be one sided slaughter by Mirage if she fight as a couple with Hayate like this >>139654413
At least Mikumo can put a fight if she was in the triangle.
>She would totally dominate the relationship giving absolutely no chance to her competitor.
Just like Sheryl with Ranka, right? Putting another NotRanka in the triangle this time is a bad decision for kawamori.
>it will be glorious as a couple.
More like glorious rivals.
Freyja and Hayate will fall in love with each other. But since Freyja is windermerian she will betray Delta squad join Aerial Knights. Hayate will obviously follow Freyja. The last episode will be Hayate vs Mirage aerial fight with Freyja singing and cheering for Hayate. At some point Mirage will have a chance to shoot down Hayate but she hesitates because she loves him too. Hayate uses that moment to send a rocket straight into her face and kill Mirage. Freyja laughs. They marry and have 6 kids.
The difference between Freyja and Ranka is that Freyja is a go-getter with a serious goal that she is completely dead set on accomplishing. Ranka pretty much needed to be inspired by other people to do pretty much anything in her life. Like if I remember correctly, unlike even Minmay, Ranka didn't even originally start out as wanting to be a singer
Pffff... You must be totally crazy if you think Freyja is similar to Ranka.
Freyja is cute, energetic, cheerful, full of dreams and hopes. She might be a bit naive, but that's because she's still young.
And Mirage is nothing similar to Sheryl. She's just older and more mature in this triangle, that's it. Mirage is probably going to be a typical tsundere without even 1/100th of Sheryl charisma.
Freyja x Hayate x Mirage as main triangle
Mikumo and the others x their respective protector pilot.
Gaybros alien x their master/captain
One of the Walkure might NTR the pilot and goes with a gay enemy.
It isn't that hard to understand.
>Mikumo and the others x their respective protector pilot.
I don't think I can see Mikumo x the captain happening, nor can I see Reirei with Chuck because she might be totally gay for Makina. Seriously everybody's saying Freyja's the Basara of the show but I think that's Mikumo
Now as for Kaname and Messer(?) oh yeah, that's definitely in the books
Reina's pilot partner is Cuck.
Reina confirmed will defect and become enemy pilot's lover.
Mikumos most likely is related to the main singer on the enemy side. That's most likely is her main ship.
Makina and Rerirei is a yuri shiptease couple.
Kaname and Messer are going to have a romantic story for sure.
I hope MC drives her nuts.
Just like Yui kotegawa from to love ru, she even acts like her as a moralfag in the first ep.
>time for training
>dont feel like it
>only one other vote for Makina
Well at least I know I'm not alone.
>Mirage moves to Hayate's room which has them spending as much time together as possible in order to synchronize their actions as partners on the battlefield
I actually meant to vote for Kaname but misclicked. Sorry.
I did, and I still support her.
Movies are non-canon.
>But since Freyja is windermerian she will betray Delta squad join Aerial Knights. Hayate will obviously follow Freyja.
Just like Alto followed Ranka? Kawamori likes naive girls becoming independent, not stringing men along behind them.
Freyja falls in love with Walkure.
Unable to confess, she is gifted by a deus ex machina with their phone numbers. Never minding the strange area code, she immediately calls them, and is overjoyed to find out that they have a crush on her as well.
But, the next day, when she recounts the previous day's confessions to the group, they only looks at her with perplexed expressions. After some investigation, she finds out that the group she called is not the same group she fell in love with. In fact, they don't exist in this universe at all. They are the group's alternate universe counterparts, who have fallen in love with Freyja's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.
Hijinks ensue as the five strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the five chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of DECULTURE.
There's a prequel?
Sorry I'm a bit out of the loop, an old fan of Macross (especially SDF and Plus)
Also has the single from this episode been released yet?
3. 旋風 ドッグファイト
Dogfight: Mirage is forced to become Hayate's instructor, because she is the only one who doesn't agree that Hayate would join Delta squad. Hayate doesn't listen to her and doesn't go to the training sessions.
4. 衝撃 デビューステージ
Shocking debut stage
But... if the first world Walkure are in love with AU Freya, then why would they not know her? Instead they shouldn't even think she's someone else, they would jump on her and everyone would be happy. This pasta is logically incorrect.
>not listening GIRI GIRI AI since 31 december
Why CG looks like shit compared to Frontier?
At first I like Halation THE WAR a lot more but GIRI GIRI is still stuck in my head.
I really hope it turns out to be a more AKB0048-like show where every girls is best girl instead of a generic Macross where you have two options and one is shit by default.
>I really hope it turns out to be a more AKB0048-like show where every girls is best girl
It felt like Kawamori has had this problem all the way through Aquarion Evol but then 0048 comes out and all the girls are based
There was no triangle. There was a slowly developing relationship between Mylene and Gamlin and in the end she suddenly cared about Basara as well. Basara never gave a shit.
Well, he loves his idols for sure, he can't shitdirect them.
Even the trans-Alto was best girl.
>AKB0048-like show where every girls is best girl
Are you kidding me? That green haired captain whore was the biggest bitch Kawamori ever created. I'm still angry her kouhai never found out the truth and beat the shit out of her.
There was an episode in the middle where Mylene is trying her song energy in a concert and it's supposed to get stronger for the person she cares about. At first she seems Gamlin and it goes straight to him but then she sees Basara and then it goes to him and then it keeps switching between the two before it spreads to both of them.
It's the most blatant "LOOK LOOK, SHE CANT DECIDE WHICH ONE SHE LIKES" in the whole show so saying there wasn't a love triangle is kind of wrong but my point was saying that is that the show really didn't give a shit about it
I think he means that it's not really a love triangle when one of the people involved in the love triangle isn't even aware he's a part of the love triangle and all he wants is for people to listen to his song.
You mean Takamina? Eh, she got over it
Those fucking trumpets from that part are terrible. The vocals are great.
What the fucking fuck?
Mirage had total 15 seconds of screen time in the first episode. We know almost nothing about her so far except for that li . We can only guess is that her personality is somewhat bitchy and she is probably a typical tsundere. She also has shitty hair style and shitty hair colour. Average face. Small breasts. Absolutely nothing special.
On the other hand we got a big introduction for Freyja. We learned about her personality, her goals and dreams. She has beautiful 2-colour hair with ahoge and even a hair tentacle. She has beautiful voice and she can emit sparkles when singing. It's still not much, but at least it's something everyone can love.
Yet you all fuckers pick Mirage because "muh Jenius genes", "older girl always win". Fuck you all. You can stick to Mirage if you want, you don't deserve Freyja. You just can't appreciate girls and your favouritism is completely worthless.
The single good part of the movies was when the Quarter took some island ship armor plating and used it to surf down to the planet. But they fucked up the music and the whole dinamics of the fights. It's shit and non-canon.
How hard is Kawamori gonna shit on her?
>But they fucked up the music and the whole dinamics of the fights
Nyan Nyan Final Attack Frontier Greatest Hits >>>>>>>>>>> Nyan Nyan Service Medley
The final medley in the movie was so much better it's not even funny. It was endless eargasm and it was a perfect fit for the final battle.
It makes me sad that I have to share the board with plebs like you
I guess that explains it
I hope season three starts with her funeral.
One time Kawamori was supposed to shit on the green bitch and he fucks it up.
>tfw I don't care about the love triangle and only watch Macross for the missile spam
>Hayate uses that moment to send a rocket straight into her face and kill Mirage. Freyja laughs
I think you've been watching a little too much IBO there champ
Carta did everything
Oh that's what everybody says. I too was once like you but then somewhere down the line you'll be right in the waifu wars like everybody else.
I used to think I didn't care about the music either
I'm not a Minmay-fag, but I want to point out that Misa wasn't even an option for triangle until like episode 15. When SDF started airing I bet no one even thought that Hikaru may end with Misa.
You all operate with knowledge that Mirage and Freyja are main characters and they both are in love triangle with Hayate. But there is absolutely nothing in the first episode to indicate it. It's meta knowledge based on posters, Kawamori interviews and previous Macross experience. And without that knowledge Mirage would probably be less popular than pink idoru.
Is it bad I have sexual pleasure in my ear when in the last refrain the singer intentionally goes out of rhythm?
I just can't stop imagining how would she be in bed when she's in control and we both get close to climax.
>It's meta knowledge based on posters, Kawamori interviews and previous Macross experience.
I don't see what the problem is
>And without that knowledge Mirage would probably be less popular than pink idoru.
She is a 1)female fighter pilot that is a 2) Zentraedi with 3)delicious ZR and 4) an older woman
Taking out the part of how she's in the love triangle is irrelevant considering some other factors. Though I think most people consider Mikumo the best girl though
Freyja is 14 (and will probably hit 15 within the show). She is past her puberty for a long time already and she is above age of contest in lots of countries in the world. She is not mature woman, but neither is Mirage who is only 17.
Mylene was fourteen and that didn't stop her mother from trying to arrange a marriage for her or her lesbian producer from drugging her and trying to rape her.
We have 5 idorus, 5 Delta pilots and 5 Aerial Knight pilots.
5 - 5 - 5
What if Delta symbolizes triangle not between 3 characters, but between these 3 groups. Idorus are currently with Delta pilots, but later they can NTR their pilots and join Knight fucbois instead. Or Delta pilots can NTR idorus and start making out with Knights creating almost full gay end (with Mirage as an exception).
>tv will probably have shit ending again
>will have to wait for movies to wrap it up
Since when do our personal considerations matter?
I don't consider 18-23 year old little shits to be adults and wish they weren't allowed to vote or go on the internet but no one cares what I think.
>We can only guess is that her personality is somewhat bitchy and she is probably a typical tsundere
How did you get that from her apologizing profusely to MC-kun over her misunderstanding?
OK. We know absolutely nothing about her personality. Yet you all fuckers still pick Mirage.
>implying it doesn't differ from planet/fleet just like in our world. Like for example Frontier had different laws regarding implants compared to other fleets
It's still safer to pick Freyja and enjoy your lovey-dovey sex while you're both didn't hit 18.
Also it seems you don't know what age of consent means. There are lots of countries where you can get married at the age of 14, but you still can't have sex with girls under 18.
Macross isn't real you dumb fuckstick. If you want to talk about real ages of consent, go to /pol/ or /int/. Stop trying to apply your real world agendas to the make-believe because the idea of virtual children doing something offends your morals.
Why are you people assuming that they're just going to publically announce for everyone to know that intercourse has happened? The anime space police ain't going to give a shit.
Also, age of consent in japan in federally 13. Almost all local governments have their own age limit. Kids can get married at 16 is female and 18 if male with parental consent.
> but no one cares what I think
That's because you're not only a fucking idiot but also went to the trouble of attaching a name to every post you make so we can immediately recognize that the opinion we're reading comes from an idiot.
>virtual children doing something offends your morals.
It's you who should go to /pol/ if you saw this implication in my post. Try re-reading it few times, but I'm not sure if you will be able to understand my point since your degraded brain sustained too much damage from 4chan. Just kill yourself.
>Also it seems you don't know what age of consent means. There are lots of countries where you can get married at the age of 14, but you still can't have sex with girls under 18.
So you're saying that it's possible for you to legally get married but illegal for you to actually consummate that marriage? Unless you're talking about stuff like brown people marrying five year old girls but waiting until they're ten to have sex, I'm pretty sure you're wrong here.
You can marry 14 yo girl and then have sex with her as much as you want.
But it doesn't necessarily mean you can have sex with 14 yo girl until you're married. If it was Japan it would be illegal.
So marriage first, lewdness later.
You thought this is bad? At least we still have good jams and Valkyrie action, future threads will be nothing but shipping wars and autists sperging out over elaborate cgi battles.
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Why did I even google what this is.
There is no hope left.
Add Plus, with Sharon Apple and Guld both losing, obviously. Also, what is Plus' real triangle?
Guld and Isamu for Myung, but then Sharon for Isamu, unrequited, even if it is some kind of an AI manifestation of Myung latent desire.
Delta girls are cute too. And Delta also has plot and music.
It's more that people like things I don't like. Causing studios to make more thing I don't like and less things I like.
Being new to Macross, what series are more important to watching? Because I feel like I didn't really understand anything going on in the first episode of Delta.
Currently have Super Dimension Fortress, Do You Remember Love, Zero, and Frontier downloading.
I remember hearing Do You Remember Love is a sort of canon-limbo thing as a movie remake of the first portion of SDF, any other weird canon issues I should know about ahead of time?
Other than watching SDF before DYRL (not because of any "canon" silliness, DYRL is just really nice but plotwise can't stand on its own nearly as well as the series), and maybe Zero before Frontier, you can pretty much watch anything whenever you feel like it. If you haven't, make sure to watch Macross Top Gun in the form of Plus too. 7's definitely more of an acquired taste, but it's also good when it picks up.
Watching all this won't honestly improve your understanding of Delta very much though, Macross likes doing whatever it wants and changing 'whatever it wants' constantly.
You want to watch SDF first, then you can try DYRL. After that I would very much recommend Plus. Then you should try 7, though a lot of people can't handle the early eps and drop it, it gets better. Lots of bad filler though.
After that you can go to Frontier. I'd say only watch Zero if you find yourself really enjoying the series, it's not terribly important canon wise, but if you find you like Macross you could watch it before Frontier as Frontier references it briefly.
Good for trying. DYRL probably shouldn't be watched until after seeing SDF, since the story it's condensing will already make sense in your mind as you watch. But some key shit not seen in the TV show is revealed, as well as DYRL's epilogue in Flash Back 2012.
Well, I guess complete newfriends would be still a bit confused about some terms.
Who are those green niggers (zentradi), what are colonization fleets and why do they exist, what is folding, how does that mystery girl singing caused var syndrome (fold waves), why did singing calm niggers? It's not too important at the moment and I'm sure it will be explained later for new viewers (just like it was in Frontier). But the 1st episode is already pretty chaotic with lots of characters and action so it adds a bit to overall confusion.
But to be honest I would love to forget about Macross and dive into this clusterfuck with empty mind.
I think it's important to remember SDF is good. It's dated but an excellent series in it's own right. Not sure why people think of it as suffering. Nowhere near as much crappy animation and silly plot as MSG.
So everything is bullshit and nothing is real?
The term dated is kind of dumb. If Macross is dated, then yes, all old anime are dated. I say the opposite, and that Macross was beyond progressive for that time, standing alone and changing mecha dramatically (even though it was Tatsunoko/Nue/AIC who forced a lot of the small robot stuff in the following years). But no Macross means no Orguss or Megazone 23, and probably no Zeta Gundam (at least in the sense that it transforms.)
When I say dated I mean it has a lot of old style animation which would be seen as low quality to a lot of brand new anime watchers. It seems a large amount of people drop shows just because something minor about the animation bothers them, so I imagine getting people into old shows is even more difficult.
As far as the story/plot of SDF goes it still holds up with modern entries.
Yeah and i'm quite disappointed by the "Just pretend that it doesn't exist."
Anyone would be hard pressed to find something from 1982 that doesn't "look old". Yeah I know what you're saying though, that's a tough sell for people not used to watch old stuff. But that's also why I can see why something like Crusher Joe is on the cusp of what the 80s did for mecha and vehicle design, while the character designs are still pretty late 70s.
>in macross 7 one of the characters talks about watching DYRL
Yeah, but according to him in the interview, the fleet Macross 7 doesn't exist. in other macross. Kind of confusing, especially with this intro:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ef6cuiZ6FI
I could cherry pick far worse from MSG. Yeah your clip is bad but there are also an equal amount of very well animated scenes. 90% of the show is just fine, average animating. Above average for the time period.
If he dance fights throughout the whole show I'm so in.
THIS IS THE ONE
THIS IS THE ONE WHERE WE TURN THINGS AROUND
NOW GET OUT THERE AND FIGHT
FIGHT FOR BEST GIRL
FIGHT FOR JUSTICE
>feeling kind of iffy on the episode
>MC starts dance-fighting
I'm still kind of iffy, because I want Macross to mix the ridiculous with the serious, and we haven't seen enough serious yet. In Frontier, a lot of that tension just came from the fleet being in a vulnerable spot.