Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1492

>>139600979
It does not increase with time, anon.

second for lolis

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
Work hard. Laugh when you feel like crying. Keep an open mind, open eyes and an open spirit.

Hey guys, manga translator here (at least I admitted it!)
シットしてるんでしょ
Is "are you doing some shit again" a good translation for this? It feels a bit off, maybe I should word it a bit differently.

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>spend ages typing out a well thought out counter argument
>press submit
>dead thread

W-whatever they were dumb anyway!

Is anyone here interested in doing fan translations of VNs and such? I'd really like to one day but it'll probably be at least 5 years until then.

>>139601171
Was it me?

>>139600601
俺が今スミレを読む。でも英語で読む、日本語はまだちょっと怖いい。

はなひらに後スミレの続きは日本語で読むかもしれん。

>>139601171
>well thought out counter argument
Just where the fuck do you think you are.

>>139601142
It means "are you a shit eater".

>>139601192
Translating is quite interesting, but I found it to be too much language raping as that I'd actually want to do it.

>>139601171
That's what happens when you try too hard.

>>139601192
So what, are you proposing to start a translation group 5 years before you know jap? What a useless post.

I plan to sub JAV once I get good enough to understand it. There seems to be a lack of people doing that, atleast for the shit I watch.

>>139601327
>know what きもち means
>can sub all JAV now

>>139601399
See this is the type of shit I don't watch. If you watch JAV without a story you're a fucking pleb, it's pretty much the only thing worth watching JAV for.

>>139601256
I actually like that part and don't consider it "raping" - localizing that is. TL's aren't necessarily inferior in my opinion, see Jay Rubin.

>>139601327
No? I think it's pretty clear what was meant if you can read.

>>139601467
They're not inferior, but you can never transmit the same information contained in the original text.

>>139601467
>No? I think it's pretty clear what was meant if you can read.
I read it wrong, I appoligize. I'm still mad about the stupid fuck from last thread.

Why do japanese have such horrible teeth?
Jesus , it`s almost as bad as brits.

>>139601504
Information? Sure. Just write 100 TL notes per line of speech. Essentially, a guide to japanese.

>>139601536
Weak jaws.

>>139601545
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Even more so in the case of Japanese.

>>139601504
Information is absolutely the wrong word here, because you can. I think you meant "feel", which is true, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. A TL offers a different experience, which is basically a collab of the original author+translator.

>>139601142
Have you google it? What did it say?

>>139601192
Damn. Okay. Nice aspiration, good luck.

>>139601256
If you want to translate properly (and get highly paid), you probably have to go to school. It's not language-raping. I'd even argue that if you hold that mindset while doing a translating job, it's not going to be easy.

>>139601504
Translators get highly paid to do exactly that. To keep the original spirit of the source transmitted over to the second language.

>>139601142

Give context you fucking retard.
I'm guessing it's "You're getting jealous aren't you?"

>>139601531
Are you the underage b& or the guy who got BTFO?

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>>139601702
Yes, that's what I mean.

A translation can certainly be on par with the original work, or can be even better, but it won't be an exact copy of the information contained in the original text in another language.

>>139601705
I guess language-raping is a bit of a strong term, but that's what it feels like to me when I compare an original text in Japanese to and English translation.

The translation can be good, but there's so much more information in the Japanese text that you simply have no chance of expressing.

>>139601941
The text basically said what I said. That translating is transmitting the spirit of the original text as close as possible.

The problem with fan translation as opposed to paid translation is that fans uses Translator Notes to keep the reference intact.

Sometimes paid translators just use a local thing to convey said spirit, whether it's of own volition or through order. It's called reversion.

Jokes, names, etc. Like Usopp has an Uso on it. It's perfectly justifiable in local version to just use lie-sopp or w/e the local language. That was before the internet though. Though maybe these days most names are kept intact because millenials have better access to informations.

Why is every fantasy LN/VN about a normal japanese high schooler who goes to a fantasy world

Why can't they just go entirely fantasy and start with a character who belongs to the world

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>>139601536
>watching a variety show
>someone casually loses a tooth while eating a banana

BRUSH YOUR TEETH JAPAN

>>139602511
You've read zero VNs, didn't you?

>>139602516
do your teeth really fall off if you don't brush them

>>139602511
You mean those that got adapted to anime right?

It's just their culture.

>>139602511
That would force them to flesh out the world more.

If the character starts in a fantasy world, then you have to create backstory for that character, his friends, his family etc. If its a high school student then all the readers already know his backstory and the show can go on. Also it creates more conflict to pad the story with because of WACKY interactions between normie high schooler and fantasy life.

When you are just there to pump out a 50 page LN every few months, being forced to craft a tolkien world is not usually on your plate.

>>139602516
sounds like a stress nightmare

>>139602603
>do your teeth really fall off if you don't brush them
Yes? Like, plaque causes gum detachment and loose teeth

>>139602511
>entirely fantasy and start with a character who belongs to the world
are you saying this wasn't already done 4320470523580139850123848032404 times over

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>open up Dies Irae to see where I stand
>mfw the prologue speech begins
>mfw my mouth slowly widens in surprise at the sheer profundity of it
>mfw I had no idea Japanese could be so magnificent
>mfw it's already in my top 10 VNs just from the 30 some lines of dialogue in the beginning

>>139602717
I found the 13 year old

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Is there a manual or pastebin or something on how to add audio to anki via rikaisama?
It seems like I got it to save to anki but it isn't playing at all. I had trouble setting up rikaisama's import so chances are I'm just doing something embarrassingly wrong.

>>139601446
there is jav with story?

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>>139602511
Japs just don't have much imagination when it comes to these things. Even when they're making a 'proper' fantasy setting they typically can't be arsed to put in the basic effort to make it look and feel at least somewhat credible.

>>139602678
Different fantasy backstories tend to vary more than high school student backstories do. If you go more specific like "Farm boy who discovers macguffin that leads him on an adventure" then sure

>>139602797
$d$t$r$t$n[sound:$a]

Try that instead.

>>139602650
I haven't brushed my teeth in at least six years and went to the dentist late last year. No issues.

>>139602511
Just read ゼロから始める魔法の書 then.

>>139603176
Got it working, thanks.

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>>139602792
This is seriously one of the best things I've ever read
And to think it started with THIS killer track
https://youtu.be/iPhPAHbesgk?t=528
I can't believe it's this good.

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>take my time with anki for a couple days in a row
>92% retention rate
出来る！

>>139603814
You must not read very much

>>139603814
>that song
Jesus fuck! This is a fucking master piece

>>139603934
I do.

>mfw 昼食、朝食、夕食
now we're three

>>139603973
Not if you think chuunishit is profound

>>139604160
That statement is not logical.

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Does anyone have namasensei's videos?

It seems that the link in the guide is dead and I'd find it sad should our future newcomers not be able to enjoy his inspirational words.

>>139604203
Yes it is? You can't have read much if you think chuunishit is profound.

>>139604398
chuuni stuff can be well written anon

>>139604263
Why keep pushing this shitty meme? Yeah, he was a drunken retard with some entertainment value but that was years ago. Get something fresh. If people want to laugh at someone making fun of themselves in a Japanese language learning context, just link to some of Benny's "Japanese adventure" complete failure. It was pretty recent, wasn't it? Change is healthy, yeah?

>>139604398
What is profundity to you, anon?

>>139604469
ignore the accidental spoiler

>>139602511
Like 80% of the medium is based on escapism through self inserting.

>>139604480
>What is profundity to you, anon?
What's profound about "what if everything was predetermined jk I don't care I just want to destroy everything for the lulz"

>>139604641
I asked what is profundity to you, anon.

>>139604480
>Why keep pushing this shitty meme?
He's motivating. I learned hiragana with that bastard. I even have my old notebooks laying around with his horrible grammar explanations.

Benny isn't motivating, he just gets laughed at by Japanese people. I don't think that seeing someone who is better than you (assuming that you're a total beginner) still getting laughed at by natives is very motivating.

>>139604739
The answer is nothing because he's a nihilistic chuuni retard.

>>139604739
It's all about sounding like a wizard.

>>139604641
I agree with you for the most part, but relying on ironic shitposting to showcase why a story is bad doesn't really help your point

>>139604739
Pretty much >>139604769
>The answer is nothing
Almost everything that tries to be profound fails. Things that are profound - things that actually make you reevaluate your way of thinking about morals/meaning/etc - are incredibly rare.

>>139604263
i have them but i dont know how to upload them, i tried mega but it keeps breaking up and the upload rate isnt constant.

>>139604957
Well, I found his videos on youtube, so the problem is solved for the moment.

Just hold on to those, and maybe contact the CoR owner, he probably knows more about where to upload stuff than I do.

>>139604912
>Things that are profound are incredibly rare.
Yeah, which is why Dies Irae is doubly great

Everything I try to read is so fucking boring. Books really are for fags.

>>139604912
The anti chuuni are always the most chuuni

>>139605074
If you're gonna keep saying that then it's your turn to answer >>139604641

>>139605152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMRAYWM47tw
When the bees start buzzing.
Dies Irae is inspiring similar buzzing as Dostoevsky's writing did when I picked it up for the first time.

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>>139604263
>>139604957
>>139605073
Also found the archive link for the torrent. Looks like namasensei can once more be enjoyed by all.

Case closed.
Though you're still welcome to check out the guide and leave some feedback.

What are great LN that aren't anime?

>>139605342
Every great LN

>>139604752
>I learned hiragana with that bastard
No you didn't, you did it yourself.
It's time for something new. I'm sure the current DJT thread is capable of creating it's own legacy.

>>139605267
So you're just confusing 燃え for profundity, got it.

>>139605433
Of course you do the learning yourself, but he's fun and motivating.

And I don't think that anyone here would actually want to put their face on camera.
Though I'd even have a whiteboard.

>>139605433
What's wrong with keeping the videos around? They aren't old to the new guys.

>>139603814
http://loopthetube.com/#oLKjfeCZKN4&start=71.893&end=73.568

you ever just buy into a meme so hard that when it came time to find out for yourself you had already convinced yourself it was true and never end up able to think for yourself

>>139605446
No, the bees indicate thought, not passion or getting heated up.

>>139604912
>Things that are profound - things that actually make you reevaluate your way of thinking about morals/meaning/etc - are incredibly rare.
Those things are entirely dependant on the insights of the individual responding to stimuli, which is why I asked you what you find profound. What I was trying to allude to is that it boils down to the same manner in which people label things beautiful. It's in the eye of the beholder, isn't it?

>>139605602
>Those things are entirely dependant on the insights of the individual responding to stimuli, which is why I asked you what you find profound.

Sure, although in that case he should be able to explain what he finds profound about it. Her's something I find profound: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem

>>139605679
I'll write a review of it when I finish the game, look forward to it.

>>139605724
Clephas pls go.

>>139605488
>>139605541
You'd think that after years, people would have some interest in change.
Guess not.

>>139605679
>Sure, although in that case he should be able to explain what he finds profound about it.
To be honest I was more interested in hearing your views. It just took a little prodding and poking to get you to open up a little.

>>139605779
Like anon said, they aren't old to the new guys.

And there isn't really an adequate replacement for namasensei so far.

>>139605779
It wouldn't be change to the people that are affected though, would it? If you've got good content to share that's cool, I don't think anyone thinks differently.

>>139603335
lol what?
Do you also not bathe?

>>139605825
>>139605905
How fucking boring.

>>139606102
Feel free to produce something new.

>>139606102
Come on, don't be like that. You're basically requesting the videos to be removed for the sake of change and nothing else. No one's fundamentally against new content man.

>>139606135
Just sharing it would be fine too

>>139605779
the always here crew cant do anything but post badly so why make serious content for them to shit on

but change is already happening you better believe 俺の背中に乗っててっぺんに行こう

>>139605342
>>139605377
T-Thanks..

Should we stop reading Yotsuba because Vol 1 came out in 2003? How fucking boring!

>>139606066
Do you take a toothbrush into the shower with you?

>>139606332
>Come on, don't be like that. You're basically requesting the videos to be removed for the sake of change and nothing else.
That's a strange way to spin it.
Didn't say anything about removing it, just bringing something more contemporary to the table.

>>139606675
Please try harder with your analogies.

>>139605679
“Although we read with our minds, the seat of artistic delight is between the shoulder blades. That little shiver behind is quite certainly the highest form of emotion that humanity has attained when evolving pure art and pure science. Let us worship the spine and its tingle.”
- Hideaki Anno

What do I do if my retention rate is shit? It's at 60% now for mature cards. I'm around 4900 cards into Core 2k/6k/10k, but I stopped doing new cards back in November. I already lowered the interval modifier down to 70% a few days ago. Anything else I could do?

>>139606807
>That's a strange way to spin it.
It's not. You don't have anything to replace them with, ergo, you want them to be removed. Your argument is that people should want change, ergo, for the same of change.

Posting this in the vain hope that the anime shitposter I'm replying to might hit up this thread and finally get his shit corrected.
迷惑をかけてすいませんね。

>>333186356
Wrong, "ra" does not include shitty foreigner pronounciations of what they think "ra" sounds like. It is simply a different way of writing ら. When I look at "ra" I don't suddenly start talking in a yankee accent 'cos I forgot I'm reading Japanese midway.

What you get from a symbol is what you associate with it, the sound is not implicit in the symbol for neither of the two. In other words if you didn't know how to pronounce ら, simply looking at it won't give it away to you. The same is true for "ra". Just because you already associate some sound with it doesn't mean it's the correct or intended association. It's you not knowing how to pronounce "ra" correctly.

>>139606807
>Didn't say anything about removing it, just bringing something more contemporary to the table.
No one's against that.
I'm getting the feeling no one's actually disagreeing here

>>139606956
Who the fuck are you trying to reply to?

>>139607240
I guess archive links don't work across boards. It's a thread that died the moment I was going to post that. Now the poor fools will be left forever uncorrected.

>>139606956
vain is a good word to describe this post

>>139607025
im pretty sure no one is gonna disagree with bring me new shit to shit on

>>139607389
i think you didnt put >>>
>>>333186356

maybe this will work 送信！

>>139607461
oh no wait i need the board its actualy fucking from 4chan.org/faq

>>139606807
do you have shitty breath?
You must at least use mouth wash, right?

>>139607503
This should work then. Prepare for cringe though.

>>>/v/333186356

>>139606872
Go back in time and learn your cards more careful from the beginning onwards

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For some reason the first kana character after an opening quotation mark displays differently for me.

Anyone know why this might be happening?

>>139607635
I'm cringing at the fact that you thought it would be a good idea to bring /v/ arguments here

>>139607793
I'm cringing at the fact that you're cringing at that fact.

>>139607635
恐ろしいのう/v/のヤツらは

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Wow easy language cant believe Ive been using subs all these years

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>>139606945
>You don't have anything to replace them with, ergo, you want them to be removed.
Didn't say that.
>Your argument
Might be your argument but it isn't mine.

おはようおにいちゃん

しんじて、にほんごはかんたんだよ

>>139608682
だが断る

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>>139608427
Welcome aboard.

>>139608682
>do you learn only vocab or do you learn each vocab

>>139607560
>do you have shitty breath?
Probably.
Don't eat processed foods, which might make a difference.
>You must at least use mouth wash, right?
The stuff that was originally used as toilet cleaner then rebranded and marketed as a dental product?
I can mix up a batch of Colgate mouthwash with the stuff I have in my pantry and under the sink. I've worked in a small factory which processed "hygiene" products. I tell you what, the shit people pay for is unbelievable. They have no idea what actually does into these things and how they are made.

>>139608838
You know exactly what was meant you cheeky cunt.

>>139608682
Vocab all the way, dude.

>>139608709
>Didn't say that.
You didn't give anything. If you have a replacement then speak up like you were asked to.
>Your argument
I never said that, but you(?) did:
>>139604480
>Change is healthy, yeah?
>>139605779
>You'd think that after years, people would have some interest in change.

>>139608682
W-what's the difference between vocab and kanji?

>>139607635
>smug maki retard
Every time, without fail.

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>>139608759

>>139608682
Why would you learn them completely separately? Is this somehow related to that Heisig ruse?

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When did you realize learning japanese was impossible?

>>139608987
He just wants to make a stand against the general-boogeyman, don't let him drag you into an argument for his own sake.

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>>139609120

>>139609169

What makes you think that anon

>>139609169
When I realized not only do you have to know thousands of kanji, how they're pronounced and what they mean, but also that each kanji has like 5 different meanings and can sound completely different depending on what symbol follows or precedes it.

Jesus fuck.

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>>139609169
NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE!

This fucker can speak 20 languages, I'll be damned if I can't learn at least 3 in my lifetime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km9-DiFaxpU

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People complaining about the difficulties caused by something you can bruteforce into your brain while I'm despairing over this vague as fuck grammar baka

>>139609169
Japanese is easier than english

>>139609429
Too bad learning 20 languages didn't fix his shit taste

>>139609494
As a native english spoker, this is not true.

>>139609429
Not to make you feel bad but I spoke 3 languages when I was 5.
JK, I do want to make you to feel bad

>>139609278
Not really.
You just gotta learn vocab and memorise the combinations of kanji
Kanji aren't actually like some alphabet with 10,000 letters. Think about it, you gotta learn vocabulary anyway, and in any language vocab is like 10,000 words.

>>139609494
As someone that has neither Jap or English as a native language, no. English is the easiest language to learn period, hence it's the world language.

>>139609169
今でも負けは認めません。こうして続いて、きっと何時か悟りの日がきます。私はそう信じてがんばります。

ほとんどの日本語が理解できます
ほとんどの人が理解できないです

>>139609429
Knowing a few set phrases in each language doesn't mean you know how to speak them.

>>139609537
>spoker
Nice try, Pablo.

>>139609697
What's your native language

>>139609740
nipnog to you to anon

>>139609559
>make you to feel
You were correct to use the past tense, you can cross one off your list now. ｗｗｗｗ

>>139609001
Japanese words can use several kanji. Kanji can have several pronunciations. If you learn the Kanji first you would have to try to piece together a word that uses multiple kanji that each have multiple pronunciations. It's easier to forego that and just learn vocab

>>139609740
その日が来ない覚悟しな

>>139609697
Shut the fuck up

>>139605779
God damn you fucking retard can't you just accept that some people found namasensei funny? He's just a fun dude to listen to.
Why do you have to be such a sperglord?

>>139609697
As an englishspeaker I find japanese's grammar way easier than ours, but I really wish it weren't so hard to get a vocabulary in it.

>>139609429
Now ask him to write in mandarin. I doubt he can do it because reaching a conversational level is much easier than reaching a fluent level.

someone say to me god damn you fucking retard shut the fuck up in japanese

if youre particularly jozu (good) you can add sperg lord to it

i want to see your cute angry speech

I'm not a Dies Irae expert but one thing I've notice is that a whole hell of a lot of vocabulary used it in also appeared in Silverio Vendetta. It's almost uncanny. If you're interested in reading Dies Irae but are perhaps intimidated, look into SV and see if it interests you as well, it'd be a good idea to read it too.

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>>139609839
Damn, typos always ruin the fun

>>139610117
ばっバカは黙ってなさい！

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>do reps at night, get 70% - 72% retention
>do reps in the afternoon, get 79% - 83% retention
>usually very busy with work during the afternoon
Why brain, why?

>>139610117
中出しの幸せ、ｓｕｐｅｌｇｕｒｏｌｄｏ

>>139610117
god damn you fucking retard shut the fuck up in japanese

おにいちゃん

今日は一年に一度の桜吹雪だよ

>>139610128
desu most hard VNs regardless of author seem to share the same pool of hard vocabulary. It's like they are all feeding off of each other for their hipster words.

>>139610150
Wait, where did you mess up? Infinitive is technically fine there, just a little unidiomatic.

>>139610263
Sperg lord, not Spelgrold

>>139610343
同じじゃないの？

>>139610415
違うよ

>>139610479
えぇぇぇぇぇぇ？

>>139610289
こっから見るわけねぇだろう

もう電話切るぞ、二度とこんなふざけた話で呼ぶな！

>>139610320
ESL spotted.

>>139610680
Yeah, no.

>>139610247
this guys in the lead pick it up boys
「黙りなさい」入ればもっとかわいくなりそう

>>139608682
I did pure vocab for a while, but my memory isn't good enough for rote memorization. After going through RTK's 3007 kanji (recognition) over the course of 3 months, my retention has increased significantly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SORQSepPrxk

>>139610914
You mean your retardation has increased

>>139610653
べっべつにおにいちゃんを励ましたかったわけじゃないんだからね

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Anyone know what comes after "2. か"?

>>139611028
嫌い

it even has furigana, are you blind?

>>139611028
嫌い

>>139611028
嫌い

>>139610680
It's grammatical, just obscure and archaic.

>>139611028
some nasty unreadable smudgeいていきますね

>>139610150
https://www.google.com/search?q=Lord%2C+what+wilt+thou+have+me+to+do

>>139610965
Stop projecting, mang.

>>139611061
>>139611074
>>139611077
Thanks, I'm a fag.

>>139611028
Can you seriously not read the きら on top of it?

I can't tell, is Remember The Kanji a meme or not

>>139611125
yo that part was readable, still thanks too.

>>139611158
I couldn't

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>>139611159

>>139611141
NO U

>>139603848
>implying this is good

It's not accurate. You can't spend a minute or two thinking about what every single word is, you'd go mad.

>>139609429
Watch his Ted Talks video, he says how all the news around him was bullshit and while he knows how to converse a little in 20~ languages he doesn't KNOW 20 languages. I always thought he was a show off prick when I saw the news stories but it was just the jews exagurating the truth yet again.

>>139610936
>left "girl" in the thumbnail
jesus christ

>>139611159
just do vocab you dolt

>>139611158
hi dude who is new to japanese and can probably barely read legible characters can you seriously not read this smudge gosh youre retarded -djt

>>139608987
None of that is asking for the namasensei shit to be removed from the guide.
/a/ is stale as shit because everyone is afraid that doing something different will earn them the wrath of the hivemind.
>>139609206
I know /a/utists are afraid of change but this is ridiculous. If you have a problem, please address it isn't of rambling on with personal insinuations like a gaggle of housewives.

>>139609697
>hence it's the world language.
That has more to do with trade and conquest. Really, no languages are "difficult" to learn because if they were, children wouldn't acquire them. Some shit takes more time than others but we still learn languages stupidly easy compared to other things which are taught in schools. For example, the drunk abo who spends most of his time getting smashed in the park near the train station in my town managed to learn English but do shit like calculus.

>>139609743
そんば
分かっちょらんね

>>139605288
There's already a working mega link in the CoR

>>139611085
That's how an ESL would try to justify it.

>>139611241
Shut up you little bitch. I will crush you into dust

>>139611256
>None of that is asking for the namasensei shit to be removed from the guide.
Telling us to replace it is telling us to remove it.

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>>139609429
>watch "I speak X languages!" videos that include Japanese
>the Japanese is almost always shitty in both grammar and pronunciation

>>139609974
Nice kneejerk reaction.
>Why do you have to be such a sperglord?
Why are you so offended by the idea of new things?

>>139611352
Yeah, no. Go back to your minimum wage service job, f/a/tguy.

>>139611352
See: >>139611134

>>139611256
> Some shit takes more time than others but we still learn languages stupidly easy compared to other things which are taught in schools

That isn't really a statement about difficulty but rather about exposure. People spend thousands of hours hearing their native language, thinking in it, attempting to talk in it, etc. They don't spent thousands of hours exposed to calculus.

Also, if you have a certain base level of mental ability "difficult" becomes synonymous with "time consuming" for most things. When people complain about ochem being hard they aren't usually complaining about the concepts, just the memorization.

>>139611436
It's probably Sakura-autist based on the "hivemind" complaints

>>139611256
>そんば
>分かっちょらんね
何？もっとはっちり言いないと分かりまへん

>>139611737
No shit.

>>139610117
うざいわね、あんた

Probably not where I should post this but are there any iOS programs for reading/downloading raw manga?

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>大本営
>(n) imperial headquarters.
>戦時の天皇直属の最高統帥機関。 1893年（明治26）の戦時大本営条例で法制化され，日清・日露戦争時に設置された。 1937年（昭和12）には大本営令により事変でも設置可能となり，以後敗戦まで存続。 44年に最高戦争指導会議と改称。

>>139611159
That's just what the vocal DJT hivemind claims.

>>139611868
Yeah it's called ねこあつめ

>>139611463
>>139611610
>esls think it's acceptable to use obscure old shit grammar
All ẏs wermēs yt ve for care.

>>139611919
>if it disagrees with me it's the hivemind, otherwise it's okay

>>139611919
How do I know you're not one of the memers?

>>139611928
>esls
Try again.

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>>139607792

>>139611928
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22have+him+to%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
How's it feel to be illiterate ESL scum, anon?

>>139612036
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=have+him+to&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Chave%20him%20to%3B%2Cc0
Nah Pablo, they should put you in a museum.

>>139612200
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=have+him+to&year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=15&smoothing=0&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Chave%20him%20to%3B%2Cc0
Try again.

>>139611771
そうすると意味壊れっちゃうよ俺はそう思って

赤ん坊にとってレベル高すぎだぜ

慎重に進める

>>139611436
>Why are you so offended by the idea of new things?
What gave you this idea? I think you're just misunderstanding.

>>139612200
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=they+should&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cthey%20should%3B%2Cc0
Huh, whaddya know?

>>139611913
やっぱ日本語あきらめよう、一緒に集団自殺でもしよっか

>>139612268
That's what happens when your kinsmen cross the border en masse and think they can suddenly start speaking English.

>>139612449
お先にどうぞ

>>139612468
No, that's what happens when people become literate. If it were about filthy ESLs, it would be a problem in the 60s, not now.

>>139612032
はいこの返事を

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>definition for 見出す
>見いだす

>>139612488
じゃあ引導たのんだぞ

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What the FUCK is a sortie?

>>139612736
とっとと安らかに寝てろ

>>139612894
A departure of military troops/units.

>>139612468
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=they+should&year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=15&smoothing=0&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cthey%20should%3B%2Cc0
Notice how literally arbitrary shit spikes up in 2008.

That's because the amount of random jargon in digitized text has increased dramatically up to the 2000s, but something (probably ebooks) is reversing that trend.

That curve is perfectly normal.

>>139612894
Is that your KanColle mining deck?
Learn French dude.

>>139612894
敵を攻撃するために自分の陣地を出ること。

>>139612894
It's when you and a few other lads leave the base and go fuck some dudes up.

>>139612980
LOGH deck.

>>139612894
what im doing when i come to djt

>>139613036
I hope you don't smoke inside.

>>139611085
current native speakers are the only judges for correctness in a language. there are only rules as long as they are observed by them. old-ass grammatical rules really don't necessarily matter unless they're commonly followed. if you were to think that way, you'd be permitted to speak totally incomprehensible gibberish, because way way back, that's just what correct english sounded like. get with the times or die. however, as a native speaker i found that usage totally understandable and not incorrect.

>>139613118
Of course not, what the fuck. I don't understand why anyone would smoke in a room that's full of electronics and paper stuff. It's like you want your stuff to stink and turn to shit.

Though I stopped smoking cigarettes quite some time ago by now anyway.

>>139613222
It's comfy as fuck to smoke on your bed.

>>139613222
>smoking cigarettes
Dude, ___LMAO___

>>139613274
I've smoked inside at other peoples places and while I agree that it's really comfy, I'd still rather do it outside. I don't want to hang around in my smoke, nor do I want my shit to smell of it. Having my clothes stink like all hell was already bad enough, god forbid my furniture and paper collection would smell of that stuff too.

>>139613366
ikr desu senpai

that's what you get a herbal vaporizer for.

>>139613428
How did you start smoking?

>>139613428
why not just puff on a fatty dick

>>139613208
>current native speakers are the only judges for correctness in a language.
Yeah
>old-ass grammatical rules really don't necessarily matter
"Archaic" does not mean "old and no longer exists". It means "archaic".
>unless they're commonly followed.
Try getting academic fluency. "Common" is meaningless.
>however, as a native speaker i found that usage totally understandable and not incorrect.
Congratulations, you just discovered something called dialect differences!

Where the FUCK are the mods?

>>139613572
Yeah, and that's me*

>>139613572
>i'm a fancy lad

>>139613611
Hey anon, you must be new to /djt/. Enjoy your stay, happy learning.

>>139613628
>Implying
Ever lived in a slum?

>>139612294
Why don't these sentences feel natural at all (apart from the last)? Something feels off.

This thread is the absolute shits.

>>139613631
Thanks friend :D it's great to see we have such a welcoming and friendly community here :D

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>>139613354
now say it in japanse

>>139613727
You showed him

>>139613671
how sick would it be if you got an honest answer from someone who actually knows

the best youll get is something like hes retarded and doesnt know japanese but they wont be able to tell you in a meaningful way

>>139613469
I got into gymnasium and somehow got the idea that a cigar would be appropriate for celebration. So I went to the tobacco shop near my school and picked up a cigar.
I ended up with a nicotine flash, which I quite enjoyed, I then periodically smoked cigars and at some point got a pipe. I went on with smoking pipes (I have about four of them now), though I rarely tasted the actual tobacco flavor.
I then ended up smoking cigarettes like a normal 16 year old edgy fuck would, which increased a whole lot once I got into second year and I could nonchalantly smoke right in front of the school building. This went on for about another three years or so, in which time I started rolling myself (pre-rolled tastes like ass compared to backwards-rolled cigs with thin papes and some nice tobacco). Then I woke up one monday and did not feel like smoking anymore. I'm not really sure why, but I'm quite glad it happened since the only reason I smoked was because I actually enjoyed it.
I've tried smoking cigarettes again multiple times since, but it either tastes like ass, or tastes somewhat decent but still doesn't have that appeal it used to have.

Though I want to give the pipe another try sometime.

>>139613553
can I have yours?

>>139613671
mixing written and spoken styles imo
don't actually know though

>>139613805
i think the beauty would be lost i cant make it flow and rhyme the same way

after all translation is the art of mangling language

Any of you read any Japanese magazines? I read the Famitsu Weekly and it's pretty fun. Any other suggestions?

>>139613845
>>139613896
heh

inb4 moving goal post from "the best youll get is something like hes retarded and doesnt know japanese" to "y-yeah but its not a confident answer"

Felt like I read something at a decent speed for the first time today. Feels good guys. Maybe dekinai-chan isn't right after all.

>>139613869
i dont have my dick anymore i burned it off with my bitlaser which also taught me nihongo by the way highly recommend

>>139614103
Why don't these sentences feel natural at all (including the last)? Something feels off.

>>139614264
Why are you trying to imitate Jamal? Or are you Jamal? You slipping brother.

>>139611256
>googled わかっちょらん
>海は荒んだ時にこそ見るもんぞわかっちょらんね。
Is that 荒む where the "susamu" in 口ずさむ comes from? I like that.

What kind of stuff are you supposed to know culture-wise on more advanced stuff?
Is reading through the history of Japan once enough or should I go more in depth?

>>139614556
Nothing

>>139614556
Just watch anime.

>>139613671
Because the first has an actual grammatical mistake in addition to awkward structure and the second is weeb japanese

What happened to DJT? Just a few weeks ago, the shitposting was limited to imoutoposting. This is unbearable.

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>>139614331
>he's not enlightened

>>139614765
Our favorite underage knowitall /pol/fags got unbanned.

>>139603814
Heil Hitler

>>139614765
The biggest autist DJT has ever come across happened, and now DJT doesn't care about most of the other shitposting because all of that combined isn't nearly as bad as him.

>>139614379
私は遅いかもしれんが、繋がりは見えません。
説明してもらってもいいですか？

おはよう、おにいちゃん

>>139614331
still chasing boogermen?

>>139614379
yes actually

>>139614556
dont read that shit as a means to that end

>>139614754
see what i mean tells you nothing to further your own understanding not that it matters he would only be able to parrot from a textbook im pretty sure

>>139614796
I haven't been here for a month or two, care to explain the newest bitlasers meme?

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Why doesn't Google IME give 死ぬ kanji when I'm searching for しぬ ?

>>139615180
>still chasing boogermen?
>being this autist

>see what i mean tells you nothing to further your own understanding not that it matters he would only be able to parrot from a textbook im pretty sure
Please explain for me sensei.

>>139615166
4ne

>>139615416
Because no one uses that word.

>>139614891
This is fucking true. Well at least for me. I used to get annoyed with the fightings, and now it's just fuck it whatever. Close the tab, boom, done.

>>139615180
Nah I'm just chasing you my man. You rarely post in long sentences so I thought it wasn't you.

>>139615413
Some guy complained that the OP was being used to promote bitlasers.com by using it to redirect to the guide and OP anon gave in because of the unbearable amount of shitposting. Now there are anons keeping up bitlasers' legacy in the form of memes.

>>139615522
So it's uncommon kanji ?
What's the common kanji for "to die" ?
Why is it in Tae Kim ?

>>139615724
Stop being French and I'll tell you

Nah actually I don't know what your problem is but 死ね works fine for me

>>139615724
おなくなりになる
他界する
数独

>>139615702
>Some guy
It was just Sakura autist looking for something new to complain about. It was pretty obvious from his posting style (but he'll probably respond to this out of butthurt implying it wasn't him because he seems to think no one can tell when it's him posting about stupid bullshit).

But pretty much this.

>>139615784
Those aren't more common than 死ぬ, stop memeing.

>>139615894
Yes they are.

>>139615894
Based on my experience with NHK news 死亡する is actually the most common

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Anki configuration tips?

My Anki usage is utter shit; see pic related (Core 2K/6K). Currently using the default settings.

What intervals and settings do you guys recommend? I used to use WaniKani; I consistently achieved 90%+ accuracy with that. How can I mimic that type of spaced repetition with Anki. I think my learning phase is at fault.

Also, more on the mental side: do you guys tie sounds and kanji to mnemonics, or brute force them as abstractions directly into your brain?

>>139615436
im glad you got the reference dude

その説明はお前を病院に送ってかも

>>139615575
i love you too man 楽しいカキコはたくさんの形態をとりますよ

>>139615894
死ぬ気か

>>139616039
I write them because fuck yeah.

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>>139616039
>WaniKani; I consistently achieved 90%+ accuracy with that

>>139616063
>その説明はお前を病院に送ってかも
still making no sense dude

>>139615951
>>139616008
http://jisho.org/search/%E6%AD%BB%20%23kanji
>229 of 2500 most used kanji in newspapers
http://jisho.org/search/%E4%BA%A1%20%23kanji
>661 of 2500 most used kanji in newspapers

>>139616063
Do you visit any anime japanese forums frequently?
On that note, any recommended VPN provider you think I should look at that you yourself use?

>>139616039
>do you guys tie sounds and kanji to mnemonics, or brute force them as abstractions directly into your brain?

Heavily brute force but sometimes I can think o stupid little reminders off the spot, not mnemonics because I'm too stupid for those, but shit like "OYA! The parents are coming!" for 親

>>139616039
>How can I mimic that type of spaced repetition with Anki.
You can adjust the intervals, but it might be difficult. WK's system is just superior by nature.

>>139616039
increase the review limit.

>>139616249
>送って
>って
y

>>139615724
The most common is of course 崩御.

>>139616249
This is a no-bullying zone.

>>139616347
Why?

>>139616299
You can't just compare kanji and pretend it means the same thing for words.

>>139616249
if you think a little harder you might get it i believe in you

>>139616305
no also いじめしないでくれる

死ね is definitely commonly used though

>>139616524
Jamal's whole character is built around bullying so I don't feel bad about it. Plus if you're in this thread wouldn't you prefer to know when your nip doesn't make sense?

>>139616531
No you're fucking wrong it's used more.

>>139616299
>newspapers
Wow
>die
>pass away
Shock

>>139616632
Obviously 死ぬ is used more in general and I was trolling by listing the other few, but I'm serious about 死亡 being the most common specifically in the news. It really shouldn't surprise you that which word is most common depends on the situation it tends to come up in.

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>>139616531
Okay bro

>>139616617
why doesnt it make sense ill give you a hint 自虐ネタ

>>139616431
Meant for: >>139616063

Is the sentence supposed to be some "cool" way of avoiding a proper answer?
More importantly, 君があの三中の病院送りか？

>>139616724
Hey look what I found on the front page of NHK website
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20160405/k10010467831000.html?utm_int=news_contents_news-main_006

>>139616724

What frequency does "words frequency" based on? Daily life? Anything and everything including manga and games? Newspaper?

>>139616831
And? No one said it's not used. But it's wrong to argue that 死ぬ is less common than those other words.

>>139616887
>But it's wrong to argue that 死ぬ is less common than those other words.
I've been saying it depends on the context you idiot. And 死亡 really is the one used in newspapers. 死ぬ is the most common in general because you don't tell someone to 死亡しろ

>>139616921
What you're arguing doesn't even make sense. Whether 死亡 is frequently used in newspapers is irrelevant; telling someone to learn that word before learning 死ぬ is retarded.

>>139616751
How am I supposed to know why something that doesn't make sense doesn't make sense.

Why don't you write it in English

>>139616985
>Obviously 死ぬ is used more in general and I was trolling by listing the other few, but I'm serious about 死亡 being the most common specifically in the news.

Either you can't read or you're just really fucking dumb.

>>139616585
おねがい。なんでもしないから。
Here, a マｚｚイックアイテム as 支払い。

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P49FraVNS_Y

Is there some way to have new cards automatically show up at the top of the queue as I add them? I want stuff I've seen most recently to take priority.

>>139617141
No idea if it's possible, but I'd also find it great to have.

Do most people have Anki force you to enter the keyword, or rely on an honor system? What's correct?

can you write and read japanese with any font? if so whats the most readable font?

>>139617322
Gothic

Does X ところで have any other meaning besides "Even if"? Specifically 軽くおさらいしたところで、

anyone have the irc info, haven't been in these threads for years, is it even still around?

>>139615416
You press space to convert directly to kanji. Arrow keys are for predictive shit.

>>139617468
By the way.

>>139617468
Yes. That could be "After I had reviewed it a little"

>>139617284
Input is a waste of time. If you're so weak willed you'd consider cheating in Anki just because there's no repercussion, then you might as well quit-

>>139617284
I hit again if I got it wrong, hard if I had a hard time remembering it but was able to remember the pronunciation and meaning, good if it wasn't that hard to remember, and easy if it was pretty much instant to remember and I was pretty much 100% confident of my answer. I also try to get intervals as close to 20 days without going over so I can make sure I know the words fairly well before letting them mature.

>>139615102
Japanese, huh? Ok, let's see...
「わかっちょらん」をググってみたら、「ばらかもん」の名セリフ『海は荒んだ（すさんだ）ときにこそ見るもんぞ、わかっちょらんね』が出た。荒むという訓読みは見るのが初めてで、そこで「口ずさむ」が思い浮かんだ。
くち＋すさむ＝くちずさむ、という由来だったかと思った。
ちなみに英語で失礼ですが、そのセリフはCrunchyrollで『Th'sea's worth seein' 'specially when your heart's gone hard. You just don' see that.』と英訳された。文脈を分からず、「海」が荒んだのだと間違えた。

>>139616431
>>139616760
おい、無視するんじゃねぇぞ、ちゃんと答えろ。

>>139617322
For some reason bitmap fonts seem to help new vocab stick in my brain better.
Maybe the crispness just encourages my eyes to pay attention to the lines, while the smoothness of most other fonts just makes it all look like a big blur.
I either use IPA MonaPGothic or MS PGothic for most things.

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>characters start talking about different Japanese foods

What does she mean by 仕事?
Is it like "I can do it too"?
She also says 仕事ね~ at the last page of the doujin. Context is she found his brother's porn.

>>139618133
This is why you should make a food deck with images.

>>139618133
That's moeshit for you.

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>>139618155
Woops forgot pic.

>>139618133
>he isn't learning to cook japanese food to attract a japanese waifu

>>139618210
work; job;

>>139618210
>これは仕事
>[...]
>私の仕事ね
Come on anon, you can piece it together.