Just marathoned WA2 last night, and the double whammy from finishing a show and ending on a downer is starting to sink in.
We know how Kazusa gradually fell for Haruki, but when did Haruki start having romantic feelings for Kazusa? It seemed like he was friendzoning her pretty hard here.
Kazusa a shit.
He loved her pretty much from the start but was basically a coward.
>>139500090
OTOH, he thought she wasn't interested in him, so he might've just said "friends" to avoid weirding her out.
But he was also half-asleep and talking more freely than usual at the time, so you'd think he was saying what he really thought.
>>139500128
>>139500090
>but when did Haruki start having romantic feelings for Kazusa?
From the beginning. He wrote Todokanai Koi about Kazusa so at least as long as he had that notebook which was like freshman year or something. The irony lies in the fact that ultimately Setsuna is the one who actually sings it.
>>139500162
He barely knew anything about her for a long time though, except that she was always grumpy and sleepy. I guess I can see being intrigued by a pretty, prickly girl living her life incorrectly, though.
>>139501218
Ah, I was wondering if he wrote that song with her in mind, but forgot to ask.
>so at least as long as he had that notebook which was like freshman year or something
Didn't he only meet her in third year, when she got demoted into his class?
Is it true that we never got a full version of Setsuna singing White Album to Kazusa's piano from the end of ep 1? I really liked that version.
...Wait a minute. They never announced who won the Miss Toujou election that year!
(But obviously it'd be Setsuna. The real question is if Kazusa unseated Drillbitch from second place with her mad instrument skillz.)
>Threads from 2013 missing from desustorage, but kept by fireden
Oh, thank God.
>>139501136
Setsuna was too good for him.
>>139503101
>All those pre-airing comments that speculated Closing Chapter and Coda would get their own seasons
>>139503400
He was never in love with Setsuna though. She knew that and still acted which is why there was so much pain in the first place.
If Setsuna had just given up she would have saved herself a lifetime of pain and simultaneously allowed true love to blossom. It's not an overstatement to say that Setsuna ruined everything.
Was there ever chance of threesome end, if they had played their cards right?
>>139506789
Only if Setsuna wanted to be a third wheel.
Do we have actual measurements for these two?
I want Setsuna to NTR me
>>139513134
Uh, as in, sleep with another guy? Or steal you from another girl?
>>139514858
The former
CC WHEN
>>139515115
You'll have to move to Soviet Russia, then.
>>139501136
>btfo
Oh, when Setsuna finds out about the previous night's sexual escapade, you know what'll happen next.
>>139516489
He pity-fucks her?
>>139517055
Well, you seeIt's going to be a long time before they start getting intimate with each other, and even then it's only after Haruki is convinced he'll never see Kazusa again.Then after spending years together and being engaged Haruki still leaves Setsuna the moment Kazusa returns.
I'm not sure what the moral of the story is supposed to be. True love always finds a way I guess? Never lie to yourself when it comes to love?
I don't know. I just feel like this entire series could have been avoided if Haruki had just confessed to Kazusa at the start.
>>139517679
it means one thing
he was evil
>>139517679
>if Haruki had just confessed to Kazusa at the start.
Somehow I bet she would've reflexively shot him down.
>Tsundere is confused!
>It hurt itself in its confusion!
>>139515697
After Maruto is done milking Saekano.
>>139518080
He's a spineless pushover and it took him 3 fucking games to man up and start making his own decisions.
>>139517679
Holy shit. Setsuna is seriously too good for him. Shit people like Haruki deserve shit girls like Kazusa.
>>139518192
>tries to azien her way into his dick
>too good
please,all of them were shitty human beings
>>139518123
Remind me why she didn't want to join his band?
>See this while archive surfing
Why did I lol?
>>139518251
I don't think so. None of them really intended to cause pain to the others, they all wanted things to be pretty good for everyone but went about it in completely wrong ways.
>>139518624
The road to hell is paved on good intentions.
>>139518624
I don't think there's any way to argue that Setsuna wasn't wrong.
She knew that Haruki and Kazusa loved each other and specifically tried to prevent them from figuring that out and then proceeded to flaunt her relationship and to make things worse tried to guilt trip them both when they finally embraced each other.
She was dealt a losing hand from the very start but she just had to try and bring everyone else down with her.
The only saving grace is that Setsuna acknowledged how wrong she was and never resisted her retribution.
>>139517679
Except Setsuna is enabling his behavior. She knew that if both of them got together she would be frozen out and took action to confess to him to keep the 3 of together. I am not convinced that she likes him that much. Girl is just dumb, why would she even think that it is a good idea?
>>139518123
There's a 'what if' novel about it anon,he confesses to her and she accepts,she turns dere very fast
>>139501722
Go read the VN,IC is translated and you would know that he was a crush on Touma if you already read it
Setsuna payed for her sins already
no bully
>>139502081
A-Anyone?;_;
>>139520920
tis true anon
>>139520966
Th-Thanks
Everyone a shit.
>>139521173
just doing me job lad
>>139500090
>>139518445
>lol
>>139521267
>lad
Fuck off.
>>139521457
you fuck off cunt
>that extra chapter
>>139521409
It still hurts.
>>139521733
One of these?
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=White_Album_2_Omake
>>139523764
this one http://mdzanime.me/2014/12/25/white-album-2-extra-chapter-to-you-my-sworn-enemy/1/
>>139502081
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kujel2ZgNn0
I have this.
>>139523918
Thanks.
>As such, substantial knowledge of the aforementioned events in the Concluding Chapter is necessary in understanding this entry.
Bookmarked for future reference. I'd like to get the full experience in the right order.
>>139524049
Thank you so much, Anon. Thank you.
>>139524372
No problem mate, it's an absolutely beautiful song but sadly I never listen to it because it fills me with emotions I don't want to have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYxgMR2Hc4Y
>>139500090
one fucking day cc+coda will get animated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL1cIUkPcGw
>>139524553
Nicely synced.
Surprisingly little fanart for a reportedly popular VN. Only 5 pages on Gelbooru, mostly official. I haven't even checked for doujins yet.
>>139526244
Did it even sell that well? I thought it was just critically acclaimed.
>>139526497
I was under the impression it placed highly in polls.
>>139526244
>>139526497
>>139526722
>surprisingly little fanart
People probably liked it as it stood out from other VNs in terms of depth, but not enough to reconcile themselves with the ending, which was a zero sum. Also this >>139517679 probably didn't sit well with people.
>>139526940
>but not enough to reconcile themselves with the ending, which was a zero sum.
That's what doujins are for! Don't tell me there isn't a doujin of Kazusa's mom remarrying a sleaze who hits on his new stepdaughter.
>>139517679
Not that I give a shit about Setsuna, but it really seems like this game sets out to shit on her every chance it gets.
>>139527910
Anon, there is a setsuna route.
Someone post the love making webm.
>>139528162
I hope it's a BD version.
>Dat boob and collarbone caress
>>139501218
It's just too fitting for all three of them by the end of the show.
>>139527910
that's the gist of it.
>>139524049
You're a god.
>>139534308
Note the direct download link in the comments.
What is this walk supposed to symbolize?
>>139536478
anal sex
>>139536478
>>139536687
i-is this real?
>>139536719
Kazusa was a virgin and can't walk right after a full night of sex.
>>139528162
>>139529793
http://web.archive.org/web/2/http://a.pomf.se//yshqmc.webm
So Baka-tsuki is translating the VN now.
Could be worse, it could have been Sekai-project.
>>139528091
Yes but it's painfully obvious that the Kazusa route is the 'canon' route.
>>139540814
How so?
>>139539187
Did it used to be a different group handling WA2?
>>139501136
I seriously laughed my ass off at that scene cause they just kiss right in front of her, they just don't even give a fuck about her it's too funny.
>>139543883
I would say it's funnier out of context, except it's even more of a blowout with subs and audio.
But then she's gone, and the despair sets in.
>>139537117
>http://web.archive.org/web/2/http://a.pomf.se//yshqmc.webm
>>139537009
Was Setsuna fucked yet in this season?
>>139547841
No.
>>139543523
I believe commie.
Why was Kazusa giving Haruki the silent treatment at the start of the show? Taking the teacher's advice after all?
>>139551998
she has autism
Why does Setsuna cover 1980s pop songs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P0WG_mS_DA
>>139552934
True, that. She's like Eva-pilot maladjusted.
>>139554658
I'd read that crossover.
>>139503574
I saved this picture 3 years ago when they announced the anime and said it was going to be 50 episodes total.
I miss that optimism ;_;
>>139554969
>>139554969
What's on Satelight's work schedule this year? The new Symphogear seasons?
>>139556319
Aye
but saekano means we ain't getting CC
>>139557223
Maybe next year ;_;
I mainly just want some figures at this point. It's really disappointing that they never made figures of Kazusa/Setsuna in their campus fest outfits. They really dropped the ball on that.
>>139524472
I thought I was the only one, been listening to it nonstop since last week and I have been depressed since then because it remind me of shit I didn't want to remember... and because the anime is pretty cute.
>>139558552
It also gets stuck in your head really easily.
>>139558659
ye prob my neighbors and classmates are annoyed by me whistling it all the time.
>>139558552
I fear I'll get sad anytime I hear a saxophone number from now on.
>>139557223
Damn I wish Saekano wasn't as popular so we'd get more WA2
welp,time to rewatch.
thanks /a/
>>139560042
Godspeed, Anon.
>>139559429
Saekano is basically WA2 but with Setsuna winning.
Soon I'll stop being an EOP and read the VN.
>>139540853
According to >>99357534these all the hints that Kazusa is the true ending of the WA2 as a whole, althought it's pretty clear if you play the game:
WA1 subtitle is: Tsuzurareru Fuyu no Omoide( feelings of winter put together)
Kazusa's theme in WA2 is After All-Tsuzurareru no Omoide-(after all, feelings put together)
the title of the PS3 and PSP versions: "White Album2-Shiawase no Mukogawa" The other side of happiness)
When asked about the subtitle, Maruto answered:
"In love, when you make someone happy, there will often be also people who will not be happy as a result"
The theme Happiness (shiawase) and the opposite side of happiness (shiawase no mukogawa) is the theme of the game."
This theme is only followed in Kazusa's route, since Haruki and kazusa sacrifice other people's happines in exchange for their own happiness.
the last scene in Kazusa's coda has Powder Snow, WA1 true ending song.
the credits song in Kazusa's coda is "Closing" the song is about Kazusa's and haruki's feeling finally being resolved, that ending credits is the only one with the White Album2 and Coda logos.
>>139562050
More copypasta greatest hits
>>99357826Today, is the crossroad in my...in the life of the 3 of us.
because the decision I'll make today will involve a lot of the people around me.
"you're the one who vanished from my reach!"
"you're the one who went somewhere I could never reach!"
"what's wrong with me loving a good for nothing!"
Because, ever since that time...
In the day my fate started rolling was winter, in that day it was snowing, it's been always continued snowing...
Haruki: ugh...
My chest hurts
harsher than the coldness of winter covering my whole body, harsher than the coldness of the snow, something more bitter and painful surges like a stream.
I won't run away anymore.
I have no option but to choose one among the two of them
Haruki: ugh... hnghh...
I know what's right, what's precious, and what's happy
Even so, I doubt.
Because this is my ultimate decision.
Kazusa won't decide, so I will do it.
Just for this once time, I'll obey my feelings, I'll choose my most precious person in the world.
I won't regret it even if it's a mistake.
Haruki: ugh~~!
this will be my final, one that I won't be able to return from, ultimate decision
>>139500090
They were in love since before the story started, only that neither of them say it so, then this whore come into the picture and decide to break up their relationship, even KNOWING their feelings, fuck that whore, iI hope she get gangbanged by a thousand angry niggers FUCK.
>>139562428
>>99358059Haruki: "Kazusa, you're a horrible woman, your personality is bad, your attitude is bad, and you're a coward.
Your only good point is your piano"
Kazusa: "What... Harukiii..."
She instantly looks down, and her voice shakes.
Haruki: "You look good on the exterior, but you're rotten on the inside, no matter how talented you are, you're a failure as a member of society."
Kazusa: "Stop.... stop..."
The strong front she had until now disappears, and she can't hide her shock and tears.
Haruki: "You're the lowest, do you know how much suffering you've caused me?"
Kazusa: "Please... Don't be that mean... Even I know what you're saying it's true"
Tears accumulate in her eyes, and she looks at me like an abandoned puppy.
Haruki: "It's natural for someone with your talent to rest on your laurels, and to not adapt to society, and to fail as a person."
She really is so weak...
Haruki: "Kazusa, you're an absolute failure."
Kazusa: "Stop..."
Haruki: "If Youko-san and I are gone, how are you gonna live?"
Kazusa: "How should I know? I wouldn't even think of that possibility!"
Haruki: "You are this useless, helpless and weak."
Kazusa: "Harukiiii! Youuu..!"
Haruki: "So I have to choice but to take matters into my own hands"
Kazusa:"..........Eh?"
If she's like that, there's no way I can leave her.
Haruki: "I, you know... that terrible person that you are... I love her, more than anyone in the world"
kazusa:"....... Eh, eh-?"
Haruki: "If you don't live happily, I can't stand that."
Kazusa"......Haru....ki?"
No, I want to do it, I want to reach out my hand to her
Haruki: "So you can be happy, no, so you can keep on living, I'll say it."
Haruki. "I'll stay at your side... even If I have to throw everything away"
Jesus, that hurt to read. It's like kicking a puppy.
Can't wait for the complete game TL.
>>139562509
POTTERY
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>>139562835
>tfw when I watched this 2 years ago and never realized this till now
>>139500090
This is School Days without a cleaver.
>>139562740
Damn Haruki going HAM
>>139565182
AS GOD IS MY WITNESS, SHE IS BROKEN IN HALF
>>139562740
DESU it's kinda weird that he pitches it as choosing her out of pity. Fictional girls usually hate that.
>>139562740
>>139567487
But she (heck, both the girls) are so broken and love-starved that they just take it. Damn.
VN anons, is Touma full dere after the events of IC? Does she ever show her strict side to Haruki again?
>>139562740
>Haruki: "If Youko-san and I are gone, how are you gonna live?"
Did either/both of them knowher mom's conditionat the time?
I wonder what it's like to love someone as much as Haruki and Kazusa love each other.
>>139569877
Ask your waifu, anon
>>139569877
It would be extremely painful.
>>139571412
They're big guys.
>>139554969
Did the nips not buy enough BDs. It's a real shame to see an actually good vn adaptation be cut short
>>139517679
Couldn't the player choose to not leave Setsuna and go 100% down her route since it's a VN?
>>139571817
Well yeah but the player could also choose to exit the game any time and consider it an ending to the game. There is however a true ending in the sense that it's one that has all the clear marking of being the author's intended destination for the story. Kazusa's route was the one the story was built around, everything else was simply things being branched off for the sake of creating a broader experience that encourages multiple playthroughs.
>>139571817
There is a Setsuna True End that's kinda like a Good End. I don't think there's a corresponding Kazusa Good End that throws Setsuna a bone though. Maybe the Twinkle Snow alternate-timeline omake, from what I hear.
>>139517679
Oh! Oh! I can guess! "Some people are just meant to be together, no matter who gets hurt in the process!"
>>139517679
>>139573290
From >>139562050:
>the title of the PS3 and PSP versions: "White Album2-Shiawase no Mukogawa" The other side of happiness)
>When asked about the subtitle, Maruto answered:
>"In love, when you make someone happy, there will often be also people who will not be happy as a result"
>The theme Happiness (shiawase) and the opposite side of happiness (shiawase no mukogawa) is the theme of the game."
No wonder both girls remind me of Sakura in different ways.
>>139571817
even in her own route she's a silver medal
>>139574825
I've heard that in Setsuna's route,Kazusa manages to give up on Haruki, and even stays in their new life. But how can you be sure she isn't just putting on a front for their sake, like before? She's good at that.
Then again, she left in the first place because she had reached her limit, so I doubt she could keep it up a second time if it weren't real.
>>139501136
FUCK YOU
I just finished watching this literally an hour ago and the last two episodes were so hard to sit through.
I fucking hate this show.
>>139576132Haruki's feelings are left up in the air as well since Setsuna essentially takes over the role as the protagonist in her coda route.
>>139576379
>Trying to gauge Kazusa honesty through POV of Setsuna, the one person she least wants to hurt
Oh my fucking god.
>>139576296
There there, Anon. Let's drown our sorrows together.
>>139556319
Speaking of Symphogear, I loved this cameo in ep 7. Gotta check the archives for /a/'s reaction at the time.
Haruki: "What are you doing? do you know what time is it?"
Kazusa: "... what happened to your face?"
Haruki: "Answer my question first, I was the first to make one."
Kasuza: "...I was waiting for you in your room, and because you were pretty late in coming back, and your phone was turned off..."
Haruki: "Ah, I turned it off, sorry"
Kazusa: "I decided to wait outside for a bit, then walked to the station to try to meet you, and thought that maybe I missed you on the way, and hurried back.
I couldn't sleep since you weren't coming back, so I decided to wait awake, and repeated the first step.
I think I repeated the whole process like 5 times?"
Clingy women aren't this cute IRL aren't they?
>>139578858
nah
>>139576296
I could only get through 3 episodes before I realized the heartbreaking ending to come so I dropped it. Doged a bullet there.
Why are you fucks still talking about this shitfest when clearly many of you were hurt by the ending and are miffed by the VN spoilers
I swear you people are masochists
Don't do this to yourself
>not a single White Album 2 doujin
>not one where MC gets with Touma
>not one where MC gets with Setsuna
>not a single one
>>139580137
Because even if we have been hurt we love it, true love feels like this.
>>139580297
We don't like to be delusional, accept reality
>>139580383
>reality
Fuck you I come here for escapism
WHITE ALBUM Fest > Piano > Original
Come at me.
>>139580439
I'm coming at you bro
>>139559253>tfw I play the sax and will never sound like this
https://a.pomf.cat/vxxqpn.mp3
>>139580874
Boku no Pico is a really good one
>>139580137
watching romance animes is masochism to begin with
>>139580874
Ga-Rei Zero.
>>139580874
KimiNozo.
>>139580874
Kimi no Iru Machi
>>139580874
Dusk Maiden of Amnesia
>>139580630
I love how expressive saxophones can sound.
I cracked up when the porno-music synth warbles kicked in though.
>>139582605
>synth warble
I apologize if this is the wrong term for it.
>>139580137
For me the wounds are fresh, so I can only lick them by talking. I was given fair warning last week, and thought of dropping it from my watchlist, but ended up drawn like a moth to flame instead.
But it really was a beautiful show;_;I hope it gets concluding seasons someday.
>>139517679
What is sex with Setsuna like?
>>139584088
i feel ya anon, just finished watching myself and hot damn, what a ride.
can't even remember the last time i've felt this alive.
>>139580630
>>139582605
Ah, so there are vocals later in the song, too!
...Man, I've gotta say I vastly prefer Madoka Yonezawa's singing.
>>139584524
Like closing your eyes and thinking of Kazusa.
Why dont more romances have the balls to depict sex?
Reminder that in coda Kazusa isbad endand Setsuna isgood end. Mari is best girl though. Koharu being second best.
>tfw not even a single h-scene with kazusa in her end
>you have to fuck setsuna to trigger the end
kek
Reminder that EOPs will never ever get WA2.
>watching literal advertisement
Would you contribute if Sekai started a kickstarter for WA2 translation?
>>139589412
No, because I'm not an EOP.
And you shouldn't either, cause it's fucking Sekai Project.
>>139589412
Yes, because I'm an EOP.
And you should too, cause it's fucking Sekai Project.
>>139585076
This. Madoka Yonezawa's version of White Album is the best.
>>139571596
for you
Isn't Setsuna the real winner though? With Kazusa out of the way it's only a matter of time until she manages to seduce Haruki.
Why do people say Oregairu is anything like WA2? The only similarity is that there is a love triangle and they are friends.
>>139517679
Well, fuck. Now I'm sad..
>>139590895
Who ever thought a relatively irrelevant seiyuu could ever had a voice so divine? I wish fate wasn't so cruel and she get to sing a lot more songs honestly.
>>139592482
MC has 2 choices: one girl tries to make it super obvious she wants the d, and the other not so obvious
>>139562740
Fucking savage
>>139592793
It was pretty obvious in both WA2 and Oregairu that the black haired girl liked the MC.
>>139588936
Really? I was sure they'd get at least one in at the end. I guess all the fucking ended up in the cheating route.
>>139500090
it's love at first sight for both of them but because of who they are their feelings developed very slowly. you can see some chemistry going between the two of them. Without Setsuna, they may end up together as love birds or just move on with their lives, but point is they will have that warm first love memories.
Thanks to Setsuna and the events that she set off, all three of them suffered for years. Then they found solace, somewhat.
>>139592793
Well his reasoning was a bit questionable.
For Setsuna it was because he didn't have a reason to say no to her.
For Kazusa it's because he loved her more than anything in the world.
Haruki is sipmly too polite, too courteous, too willing to go with the flow. One of the themes of the story is reflected in Haruki's recognition of this flaw and his eventual overcoming of it in the closing chapter.
>>139500090
>It seemed like he was friendzoning her pretty hard here.
When did Kazusa realize he loved her back?
>That sinking feeling as he gets closer the more you try to push him away
>>139594671
I'm pretty sure that she got the heads up once she heard the song he wrote.
>>139594993
I hear she thought it was for Setsuna though.
>>139595062
I don't know. It would really be quite odd for Haruki to write a song about Setsuna before he even met her.
>>139593158
Nope, everything in cheating route. And it still end withkazusa leaving and setsuna back with haruki, no marriage (yet) though
Why. The. Fuck. No. 3P. End.
I will never get it.
Reminder that WA2 is inferior to damekoi.
>>139595202
Well, Setsuna had been school idol for two years already. Plus, did Kazusa know when the lyrics were written?
>>139595770
>just realized Takeya was trying to deliver Haruki's feelings to her
What a bro.
>>139524049
Damn I didn't know this existed, thanks anon.
>>139595357
Setsuna didn't want that. She knew that if Haruki and Kazusa ever became close she would feel left out and wouldn't want to be in the group. So she confessed to Haruki before Kazusa did and in doing so caused everyone in the group years of pain and suffering because she was too selfish to just be happy for the two of them.
>>139597271
a true human being
What's the post limit?
Haruki: I'll stay at your side no matter what. Even if I have to abandon everything else.
Kazusa:... you're not being serious
Haruki: ....
Kazusa: don't tease me like that
Kazusa: even though I know you're lying, I still believe it a little, and it makes me sad
Haruki: Do you hate the idea of being with me sad? Do you dislike the idea of being with me that much?
kazusa: Idiot! don't misunderstand things on purpose! I hate when you do that!
haruki: sorry
Kazusa: it's like waking up from a dream, and getting sad because of something you can never have
haruki: Kazusa...
Kazusa: don't talk about impossible dreams, there's a limit to cruelty
Haruki: unfortunately, you're off the mark
Kazusa: Eh?
Haruki: I'm not lying, and I'm not teasing you either
Haruki: I'll really stay with you no matter what from now on, no matter where you go. Even if that place is Vienna
Kazusa: !?
Haruki: The pianist Kazusa Touma, or just the regular Japanese Kazusa Touma, I don't care which one.
Haruki: I'll support you from now on, I'll live for your sake from now on
Kazusa: haruki... you... are you........ insane?
We both freeze where we stand, but not from the winter air surrounding us, and not from happiness either, but from the pressure, the despair and the depression weighing us down
Kazusa: if you grant my wish, you'll have to leave someone else's dream behind...
Haruki: I'm fine even if I have to leave Japan, leaving overseas might be harsh at first, but I have confidence I'll manage to get a job
Kazusa: I don't mean that...!
Haruki: Don't worry about my family, they never cared much about me in the first place
Kazusa: I don't mean that, you're pretending to misunderstand thing again!
haruki: yeah...
Kazusa: What about... Setsuna?
haruki: ....
kazusa: you... no way.... are you serious?
>>139597649
400
>>139597679
It's 500.
>>139597649
Thanks a lot, I had been wondering if he had any additional tender words for her after the previous quote.
>>139595357
I know, right? It hurts that it looks plausible, but they couldn't find a path to mutual happiness.
so setsuna was a selfish piece of garbo right?
>>139600001
She is the catalyst for all the pain and suffering in the series, but her actions were perfectly human. She wanted to be happy and tried to make up for the pain it would bring by trying to keep everyone together.
She failed.
Setsuna did nothing wrong.
>>139557223
saekano got a 2nd season because it was funded by aniplex and those guys always funds something if the merchandise sell well
>>139578858
>Clingy women aren't this cute IRL aren't they?
more like violent
>>139601648
This. It's easy to insult her for being selfish, but that is exactly the reason why I like her: she fought for her love, and she fought hard , until the bitter end.
She's an admirable character in how she doesn't let anything stand in the way of her dreams and happiness, and even when the obstacle proved to be too great for her, she didn't give up.
>>139602163
Does Kazusa still get cross and kick Haruki in the shins sometimes, or is she full dere after their true feelings pouring out, and all the emotional scarring?
>>139603239
I was referring to women IRL, anon
>>139601648
Her entire existence is wrong.
>>139605145
Nothing wrong with fighting for your love.
>>139602121
We need aniplex to fund WA2
>>139584837
I think I feel *less* alive, since it's made me question my life with a bleak eye, and not find clear answers on what joy I can look forward to, nor how I should fix that. Also, like Haruki said, how I would even live if/when my parents die. Normally this is where I would appreciate them more, but my mom's also in a naggy mood and cancelling it out. Ironically I'm only forgetting my sadness when I'm angry. I'm not sure which feeling is worse.
Sorry for the blog.
>>139607774
i'm already a living hollow of a human being, wb2 making me feel alive was surprising to say the very least
>>139607774
>>139608000
The power of storytelling sure is something.
>>139608000
same.
>>139605523
>seducing a married man
I think that it's indeed pretty wrong.
>>139610715
Is that something from the Twinkle Snow omake?
>>139554658
Can confirm, I have autism. And she is literally me, just the opposite sex. Felt weird when I realized that I self-inserted as her. I can even play all the songs that she played in the anime.
But after all those painful years, I've come to the conclusion that human relationships are stupid and not worth the trouble. Well... except if I find a Kazusa in real life some day. I'm living in Vienna right now, wish me luck.
>>139612574
There's a Keit-ai hook in there somewhere.
>>139613464
If there is, I didn't do it on purpose.
To be honest, everything would have been better if they just had a threesome on the onsen, and to be honest, most of series would get a lot better if they had threesomes, that would make everyone happier.
>>139614245
Can't argue with that. Unless it turns into TachibanaOKAY, LET'S NOT GO THERE.
>>139612574
Is your mom hot?
>>139615463
Yes
>White Album 2
>No White Album 1
>>139616468
White Album 1 is so bad is not even funny.
>>139616468
1 ain't that tight
>>139616573
The VN is decent.
>>139612574
Do you play music for a living? Are you rich?
>>139616468
The official art for WA1 was way better
I love the style that they used for it
>>139620284
That does look gorgeous. I was surprised how different the WA2 game art looks from the anime. Touma looks so much better in the show.
>>139597271
>>139600449
>>139602302
It's harsh that she couldn't help making the same mistake a second time, and dooming herself to relive her childhood trauma in excruciating slow motion.
>this thread is still here
>more than 2 days old
>>139622733
we are all licking our wounds here m8
>>139622733
I'm going to keep posting in these threads until CC gets adapted ;_;
>>139624104
>Meanwhile, Coda game TL barely started
We're in for a long wait, huh?;_;
>>139624340
Its better than nothing, anon
You should be happy that some guys are still translating it
>>139624340
Better speed up my moon learning.
almost 3 days lads
>>139626426
Kazusa love is alive and well.
>>139597649
post more.
So, why is it that Kazusa and Haruki were so fiercely in love in with each other?
They seem like very different kinds of people. Haruki and Setsuna on paper seemed like they would have made the better couple but for some reason the connection they had just couldn't even compare.
Is it possible that the author believed that strong relationships require people who meet very specific thresholds of similarities and differences?
At the age Haruki was at the end of the story he should have been fully matured, so any hormonal influenced feelings should have been under control. Even then, his feelings for Kazusa and her feelings for him returned stronger than ever before.
Perhaps I'm over analyzing it but it's really all quite remarkable and it's interesting to think about.
Wow this is still alive?
Haruki: I'll save the one most important person in the world to me, that's why I decided.
Kazusa: i-idiot!
Haruki: right now, that probably right
Kazusa: *crying sounds* that's... don't do it... haruki...
haruki: Kazusa...
Kazusa: if you say more, I won't ever be able to live without you...
Haruki: uh... if you say that, it only makes me want to protect you harder...
Kazusa: *crying* so... sorry
haruki: listen, Kazusa, this is something only I decided, if you don't agree and it doesn't make you happy, if you're happier not taking my hand, then... I'll give up.
I only want your happiness...
but right now, I'm only causing you pain, I'm sorry.
but, you'll have to decide.
kazusa: me..?
haruki: probably, for both you and me, whatever the future has for us, we'll only find regret.
So at least, let's decide our own future, let's regret our own decision, if we're betraying someone dear, let's always carry that weight.
Kazusa: be-betray?
Haruki: I've already betrayed. Now you're the only one left.
Kazusa: ....
haruki: if this decision will make your life harsher, of if it'll make it a little happier...
i want you to consider it.
If you give me a positive answer, I'll do everything in my power to open up that path.
Even if I have to make a pact with the devil.
-scene cuts, Kazusa is now in the airport, the announcer says in the voicespeaker that the plane to Vienna is about to leave-
Later we see a plane taking off.
This anime always seems to have a profound affect on people.
>>139627479
>>139627471
its the irrational kind of love
Haruki gets of the train, and when he's leaving the station, he finds Kazusa standing there.
Kazusa:.........yo
Haruki: ah...
Kazusa: it's been a week, how are you doing?
Haruki: the same to you...
Kazusa: me? or course I'm not doing well, because of that horrible choice you gave me, I thought I'd get sick and end up in the hospital
Haruki: that's...
Kazusa: what's with that face? don't tell me you already regreted what you said to me?
Haruki: I wouldn't...
Kazusa: if you regreted, that'd be only natural...
Kazusa: I thought pretty hard about that choice, it'd be weird if I didn't...
Haruki: and your answer is...?
KAzusa: ....
Haruki: shouldn't you give me an answer already? are you going to choose me, or are you going to dump me?
Kazusa: ... I went to the airport today...
haruki: eh?
Kazusa: I wasn't planning to run away and return to Vienna, I didn't even buy a ticket.
Haruki: then, why?
Kazusa: I just wanted to remember.
Haruki: remember what?
Kazusa: the sadness I felt when I left you 5 years ago, the pain that pierced my heart..
Kazusa: and I compared it, to the pain my decision would cause
Haruki: and then...?
Kazusa: don't you want to ask why was i waiting for you here?
Haruki: that's...
Kazusa: you know why, that I know what day is today, that there's a place you must definitely go today.
Haruki: ...
Kazusa: Haruki... you're going to Setsuna's birthday party, am i wrong?
Kazusa: you'll meet with Setsuna, and won't say anything about me, you'll give her a present, eat with her, and kiss her when you're alone, right?
Haruki: Kazusa...
Kazusa: and then you'll regret your decision, you'll think it's okay to leave me behind, that you're fine with Setsuna.
Haruki: I wouldn't...
Kazusa: I know how you are, you'll doubt again
Kazusa: ...but I'll put an end to that.
haruki: eh?
Kazusa: I hurried from the airport, by car, by taxi, and even running here to meet you, and I barely made it.
Kazusa: i came here to stop you.
Haruki: Kazusa...?
Kazusa: don't meet Setsuna anymore... Haruki... betray Setsuna... and choose me. Please... stay always by side...
Haruki: are you sure?
Kazusa: I love you
>>139629115
SQUEEEE
So Setsuna got dumped in her birthday.
How many times does that happen?
>>139629115
>Breaking up with Setsuna on her birthday
This girl just cannot catch a break.
>>139629115
>Kazusa: don't meet Setsuna anymore... Haruki... betray Setsuna... and choose me. Please... stay always by side...
>>139629693
2 i think
>>139629717
She deserves it.
>>139629760
It irritates me that she calls it betreyal. Kazusa and Haruki have every right to love each other. Setsuna took it upon herself to complicate things. She knew that all of this would happen and she did it anyways. She brought this on herself.
No betrayal is occurring. Only justice.
>>139624340
Is it still 100% Machine TL or did they redo that?
>>139630525
Looks like they retranslated everything, going by the forum thread.
Post your favorite WA2 song
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8s_VRmeZzc
>>139631402
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE5Xm4NTCW8
>>139631402
White Album with just the vocals and piano, from episode 1. >>139524049 sounds like keyboard, but it's as close as we're gonna get.
>>139631402
https://youtu.be/H34HchlvVsM
There's something special about the lover's duet that started it all. It's not the best song, but it's still my favorite.
>>139627471
It's destiny, I ain't gotta explain shit.
But to take a crass stab at it, I'd say Haruki was first intrigued by her juxtaposition of beauty and self-neglect, and grew emotionally attached as he tried "fixing" her and gradually saw more sides of her. Meanwhile, Kazusa was both vexed and touched by Haruki's genuinely helpful nature and persistence in spite of her crabbiness, which nobody else put up with. tl;dr, their resistances only made each other's penises harder. Don't try this at home, kids.
To be continued, maybe.
>>139632285
Can't finish... hurts too much;_;
Thread's still up? Nice
>>139633604
The art is so crappy.
>>139633675
Yes, the anime designs were improvements
If you dislike Setsuna that's fine but saying Kazusa did no wrong by fucking her best friends boyfriend on her birthday is retarded.
>b-but they were in love first
Doesn't matter, it's a dick move.
>>139634115
To be fair, it wasn't on her birthday. Now THAT would've taken the cake.
>>139634115
Setsuna was born to be NTR'd
Wait.... this shit has a happy ending, right?
>>139635339
happy ending for the heroine you choose
can't say the same to the other one
>>139635339
>>139635339
ha ha, sure
But will Setsuna find happinesa in the end?
>>139635867
In her end, I guess.
>>139518192
Having read the novels that end the story I can say Setsuna might as well have manipulated everything to make things harder on those two. Not only that she also did it in a way she came out as a victim even. A true manipulator
>>139635867
>>139636169
Yes she issetsuna and haruki got married in her coda true end. With kazusa attended and the three of them sang a song after the ceremony. Every thing is happy which is kinda out of place compared to kazusa's true end
>>139636551I thought the true end was Kazusa's?
>>139636231
She also has a yandere tendencies at the end of "the idol who forgot to sing" omake
>>139636602
Both of them have true end
>>139636634
Given the themes of this series it's so strange to have a full happy ending
>>139636602
Coda has 3 endings anon
Kazusa normal ending aka cheating route,Setsuna true end aka fairy tale end and Kazusa true ending aka true endind(?)
>>139635339
hahaha
>The two of us staying together means we're not getting a happy ending.
>>139636728
Unless you're setsuna
>>139536687
>>139631402
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VarlT1acfSo
I hate this series so much.
White album > white album 2.
>>139636888
Is it good?
Never watched the first series
>>139636910
>Is it good?
No.
>>139636910
It's not about good. it's just grown up and grown upping problems. In pic related the GG kissing his GF while looking at another women he fucks them both though.
>>139636954
Sounds good to me desu
It doesn't look like people know this, but the novelization of WA2 has Haruki choosing Kazusa.
And actually it's pretty great, it starts following Setsuna's route, then it switches to Kazusa normal and finally ends with Kazusa true.
There's a scene at the end that shows Setsuna getting married to Haruki, and Kazusa is there, and everyone is happy(like in her true end), but it ends up being Setsuna's dream, it's awesome, like the author telling you how impossible Setsuna's route in the game is.
If they ever make more WA2 anime, they should follow the novels script.
>>139637051
Well shit
>>139637051
>novelization
Is it translated? I like to read it
>>139637051
>There's a scene at the end that shows Setsuna getting married to Haruki, and Kazusa is there, and everyone is happy(like in her true end), but it ends up being Setsuna's dream, it's awesome, like the author telling you how impossible Setsuna's route in the game is.
Maruto you cruel motherfucker.
>>139637623
>yfw this is also how saekano ends
>>139637654
The Setsuna clone will win this time. I can feel it. I'm also surprised Megumi is so popular while Setsuna is by far less popular than Kazusa even though their roles are so similar.
>>139637754
Because setsuna's personality is 1000 times more interesting than her opponent. I don't even know what kazusa fags see in their beloved waifu.
>>139637051
>but it ends up being Setsuna's dream
ABSOLUTE MADMAN
>>139637051
That shit happens in the vn kazusa route too
Interesting that I consider the scenario where Haruki ask setsuna for help way more likely to happen than the other one.
>>139637754
>Setsuna is by far less popular than Kazusa
Only on /a/
>>139638033
Maybe, I haven't checked the reception for other sites. Saekano's Setsuna clone being so popular should be surprising though.
Kinda off-topic but Maruto really loves his meta-references. Saekano was pretty much his playground. It was pretty nice to be able to pick up on all the parallels he draws with WA2. In fact, it's was so meta that Saekano references itself (especially so if you read the manga spinoffs).
>>139638257
Did Megumi play White Album 2? I think the VN itself exists in Saekano's universe because Tomoya references it several times.
>>139638359
Utaha's novel you mean? I don't think the VN they created had anything to do with WA2.
Off the top of my head:
- Koisuru Metronome (Utaha's novel) was pretty much WA2, they even got Setsuna and Haruki's seiyuus to voice a short clip in the Anime.
- Don't know if this was in the Anime or one of the spinoffs, but Utaha wanted to write a new novel that was more "highschool harem"-esque. Literally Maruto himself.
And I'm pretty sure there's a couple more, but I don't really remember much. I should really re-read the series.
>>139638788
do you think maruto is self inserting as utaha?
Utaha is pretty much out of the game after thekiss
>>139638033
How so?
http://www.getchu.com/pc/2011_g_ranking/chara.html?gc=gc
She won the aqua plus poll aswell.
>>139640252
not this guy >>139638033
but in terms of narrative, setsuna's true end is pretty optimistic and out of place
>>139640251
I doubt so, it definitely isn't limited to just Utaha. Well, who knows. I haven't followed his antics that closely.
Another interesting note about Saekano was that Maruto said he needed to approach it more carefully, since LNs have only one "ending", unlike VNs. Granted, it's not like WA2 had "choices" per se, but it'll definitely be pretty interesting to see how he handles Saekano.
Maybe that's why he wrote the spinoffs for Eriri and Utaha?
>>139641204
so megumi is pretty much the winner?
>>139641573
Probably. It'll definitely will not be a simple, clear cut "win", though. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it ends up with a WA2 style "no one wins, everyone loses" situation.
>>139637051
I can't tell if the author hates Setsuna or not.
Which White Album song (by the Beatles) fits White Album 2 the most? For me it's "While my Guitar Gently Weeps"
>>139637051
>>139637623
>>139637922
Sheer brutality.
>>139643833
Happiness is a Warm Gun
>>139624340
You could probably learn moon by the time it gets full translated / sequel / remaster.
>>139580297
One group has been making WA2 doujins for every girl
Kazusa:
http://exhentai.org/g/576576/3bab757693/
Setsuna
http://exhentai.org/g/895343/41c561f8f8/
Chiaki
http://exhentai.org/g/597284/40b3386398/
Koharu
http://exhentai.org/g/666838/2aedbb4532/
Holy shit Mari:
http://exhentai.org/g/550421/48742fd6cf/
>>139644783
I'm considering it. I've got a relative head start, and it would be more productive than some of my other hobbies. OTOH I've been wishing to resume drawing and gaming for months too, but keep putting those off due to real life. I think it's about time I finished Hollow Ataraxia.
>>139644783
WA2 is the very reason I started learning moon.
>>139646930
How goes it?
>>139646957
I am a few months in and just started reading HanaHira. I am planning to try Parfait some time later.
>>139647083
Sounds encouraging! Godspeed, Anon.
>>139645817
I've been wanting to translate the Kazusa one since forever, but it's impossible to find the raw, only the chinese scanlation was uploaded.
The Setsuna one looks okay too, but it takes place after her true ending, maybe people won't get some dialogues and it can be spoilerish.
>>139562509
That was why, when they kissed in front of her it was damn satisfying.
>>139619955
Not for a living, but I have a classical piano education of 16 years. I would if I didn't have zero sense of rythm, but I can play pretty much anything classical, except ensemble. I have been getting into rock/jazz/pop but my lack of rythm really shows there. Would post videos but I'm afraid of getting bashed. And no, I'm not rich. But I'm saying that my overall character is very similair to hers.
>>139616409
Of course (at least when she was younger)
>>139629115
>Kazusa: and then you'll regret your decision, you'll think it's okay to leave me behind, that you're fine with Setsuna.
>Haruki: I wouldn't...
>Kazusa: I know how you are, you'll doubt again
Do you think she was right about him?
>>139651462
Neat. Good luck finding your own Kazusa (or femHaruki) :3
the lack of fanart is seriously depressing for this franchise
>>139651723
Thanks man, I can still hope. This thread was really nice, so I just thought to hell with it and recorded something I'm practicing right now. Not the right anime, but it's something I guess. I should play something from WA2 sometime...
https://soundcloud.com/martin-gritsch/lost-time-memory-kagrou-project-piano-cover
>>139654435
Cool.
I played a bit when I was little, but didn't keep going. Kept up violin longer, but haven't pulled it out in years either. It had its moments. I couldn't read notes for shit, but had great muscle memory once I learned a piece.
So how's the closing chapters' translation going? Is it still in progress or it's dead?
>>139657483
>February 26, 2016: The project is ongoing, just in case you're wondering.
How come WB2 has this kind of emotional impact man?
i mean,a 3 day thread that didn't get shitposted to oblivion, that's a rare fucking sight
>>139627471
The flashback. That's it.
>>139658230
I think it's just a really well written story. WA2 threads are always pretty good because the people that post in them genuinely like the series.
>>139656313
Thanks. I think for Violin being able to read sheets is actually very important, but try to pick it up again, if you can. It really is fun, most of the time!
>>139658230
It's the ending, and the fact that all of the characters share some of the blame for what happened...probably
>>139658230
I have never seen this thread getting shitposted ever, I mean, what there is to shitpost about? White Album 1 in the other hand, worst shit ever.
>>139658698
I felt like the flashbacks explained Kazusa more since it was her POV, but Haruki not so much, so it can be fun to play armchair psychoanalyst. What do we know about Haruki's mother?
>>139637051
Jesus, that's like a recipe for Setsunafag suicide.
So Haruki gets to have illicit sex with Kazusa AND keep her in that timeline?
>>139637051
>There's a scene at the end that shows Setsuna getting married to Haruki, and Kazusa is there, and everyone is happy(like in her true end), but it ends up being Setsuna's dream
Now that's just stupid. The author is trying too hard.
>>139642683
IIRC he once mentioned that she's meant to be a tragic character. Even her name sounds like the word "setsunai", which means "heartbreaking".
>>139658230
And the show aired 3 years ago.
>>139662379
So >>139634858 had the right idea...
>>139665037
It's just the obvious truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv7nYzfpAfs
Post your face, when listening to the opening.
>>139666539
>>139666539
I want to fuck Kazusa.
>>139666539
>>139666539
Lukewarm OP.
>>139662221
Maruto also went after Setsunafags in the afterword by confirming that Haruki and Kazusa are quite happy as a couple in Kazusa's true end and weren't depressed about what they had to do in order to be together.
>>139668252
They better not. Their friends were a bunch of assholes.
>>139668252
Maruto is an S grade sadist.
>>139649540
Can you translate the Mari one then? Since she's pretty much a Christmas cake Kazusa with less autism.
>>139668252
I expect no fewer than 4 children and a middle class lifestyle for them.
>>139668252
Oh, come on! Now that just makes the two sound like assholes, and contradicts some of the specifics I've seen in ending summaries. I'm glad they have each other and don't want them quite as war-vet-dead-inside as Katniss or the Animorphs, but they *should* feel guilty sometimes, at least as much as the reader.
>>139670047
Maruto only said it because some people thought Haruki and Kazusa were spending every moment of their lives together being depressed about what they had done.
>>139652851
There's some god tier art out there.
>>139670183
Thanks, I suspected some nuances were being lost in retelling.
>>139671038
Like this.
>>139671893
>>139673067
Is it just me, or were these drawn by the same artist?
>>139666539
To be honest I skipped it a lot while marathoning, so I couldn't remember the exact lyrics and had to look them up to read along.
>>139673324
Yep. Saekano's illustrator Misaki Kurehito.
>>139673459
Are Maruto and Kurehito good friends?
>>139673324
>misaki_kurehito
Yup. Another version of >>139673067 is at >>139526722.
Kazusa looking pretty Shiburin in >>139671893.
>He was... dear to me...
You don't do this to a bro, not cool at all, Haruki.
>>139674253
What's wrong with his ears
>>139669768
I think kazusa is really famous pianist abroad
>>139674253
Were their friends right? Literally everybody could see that Kazusa and Haruki loved each other from the start, and it WAS Setsuna who fucked everything up. But at the same time, Haruki and Kazusa did do scumbaggy things too.
>>139674742
High class then with 6 children.
>>139671038
Not nearly enough though
>>139667042
Kazusa is for tender lovingIn Viennese Austria, Kazusa fucks you!
>>139676627
That was one of the best sex scenes I've seen in anime.
>>139676979
It really was handled pretty well
>>139607774
holy shit I am replying so late but I agree 100%
>>139676979
>>139676627
>>139678811
>beautifully choreographed and animated scene
>waste it on worst girl
yes I'm still anal and always will be
>>139666539
>>139678822
introductory chapter only has 1 route
I love this fucking show but god damn it always makes me so mad when I think about it and discuss it.
>>139677212Like her ASS
>>139678822
you're wrong and you know it, all the characters on this show fuck up so I don't think there is a best girl.
>>139678965
same desu. Makes me feel more like a human being though
>>139677703
Getting it off my chest actually helped, and I'm practically recovered today. I'm really grateful to everyone who's kept this thread going while I was down (or, y'know, asleep).
>>139679539
yeah, it's amazing that this thread has survived for three and a half days
4 days lads
The TL is being done at BT is machine TL-tier. It really doesn't do this series (and Maruto's writing) enough justice.
I would definitely recommend either picking up Japanese (at the rate it's being TL'd, you'll most likely pick up the language faster). The patch just ruins the experience imo.
If you want to spoil yourself, you should definitely check out mdz's summaries. He's done a really good job of capturing the series' premise. Even if you've only watched the show, it's still a worthwhile read.
Satelight did a really great job with the adaption. There were a lot of little, minor actions that carried a lot of meaning. WA2 was all about character relationships, it's a shame it'll never be decently TL'd.
http://mdzanime.me/category/visual-novels/white-album-2/
>>139554368
Funny thing is this song is about a woman who is thinking of following her husband who she suspects of cheating but it's Setsuna who's the fucking cheater.
>>139680304
yeah there's a bunch of litte stuff if you pay real attention, setsuna being the one that gets the most of it.
>>139679539
>>139679626
>>139680155
I am surprised as I made a similar thread on sunday and then this one poped and I was happy.
Having an anime telling yourself to do a reality check is something amazing, dunno makes me want to find a someone that loves me like that, sadly, real life isn't like this.
>>139652821
I generally feel like marriage is an outdated institution, but I see pics like this and my heart goes all doki doki so fuck you society!
>>139680471
Marriage is outdated indeed, but wanting a stable, possibly life-long partner is part of the human nature.
>>139680304
If I got good enough to read the raw with less info/flavor loss than reading their TL, would that also make me capable of a decent translation?
>>139680340
>but it's Setsuna who's the fucking cheater
Wot
>If I got good enough to read the raw with less info/flavor loss than reading their TL, would that also make me capable of a decent translation?
Understanding is one thing, translating is another. There are a lot of aspects that can't be as easily translated (writing styles, tone etc). It would honestly be easier if you read it in JP.
For the BT project, it was originally a bigger pile of shit and was literally machine-TL everywhere. I haven't kept up with it but it seems they have an actual "team" now; but based on their guidelines and a couple of the scripts, it's still pretty shitty imo. There's a lot of inconsistencies. If you want a decent TL, the whole project needs to be completely re-done.
>>139682103
>There are a lot of aspects that can't be as easily translated (writing styles, tone etc).
I suspected there might be issues like that. Thanks for elaborating.
>>139637051
>If they ever make more WA2 anime, they should follow the novels script.
Is there any raw scans for this novel? I want to read it
>>139682564
Buy it on Amazon.
>>139682103
>>139682489
That reminds me, do you have any recommendations for starting out? This site was Google's first result:
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/
>>139580630
damn, which white album version is this? i know its hirano aya's but which album/ost please anons.
why is this 'muh love is so powerful' shit still up
>>139682654
Nah delivery cost is too expensive in my country, I thought there are scans for this since the picture you've posted must be from scans too.
>>139682820
Because its better than your favorite anime thread that you made that died with no replies
>>139682993
so aggressive just like kazusa xD
>>139682993
just don't reply to him
>>139682772
Check DJT, it should cover pretty much everything. You can definitely pick up the language by yourself eventually but I personally think the fastest way is to expose yourself to more media (in addition to the basics of course). Anki cards do help but nothing can beat actual material. Read more, watch more, listen more. You'll see that it's easier to "understand" Japanese rather than trying to translate it in your head.
>>139683405
>Daily Japanese Thread
Ah, thanks!
WA2 really struck a note with me. I don't have much to compare it to but as it stands I think it's a brillaint romance series that really delivered the serious drama, character development, and pure expression of love I wanted out of a romance series.
Are there any other series out there that live up to or surpass WA2?
Daily reminder that white album 2 doesn't use timetravel,science fiction stuff,heroine that has amnesia or accident and other stuff as plot.
>>139684664
It's not as intense or tragic as WA2, but I usually like recommending Kanojo Ni Naru Hi for romance, since it's short and sweet as fuck. (Originally 5 chapters, then got a continuation.) I feel like each drama source it introduces is done justice without feeling rushed or dragged-out.
Will see if I can think of anything heavier.
Why didn't you read original version of original WA to experience 原田宇陀児's vision?
CC/Coda soon r-right guys
WA2 sprites look so silly at times, they ruin serious scenes, like this one:
>Mom is fine, right? This is only a simple anemia, right?
It's so full of quality they really should remake the game with actually good art at some point.
I'm sure they will, they did with WA after all.
>>139686471
It was said that WA2 was pretty rushed, but Maruto stepped in to save it (or something along those lines).
>>139686616
No, the main artist didn't make the deadline, and they had to rush the shit out of it and hire other artist.
It ended up with varying degrees of quality, some of the CGs and sprites, mainly the CC ones look actually pretty good, but some others look like shit.
>>139686884
atleast the art in CC is better than IC
>>139688486
but the one in Coda is bad
>>139689272
i've seen worse
>>139689272
Why is she covered in shit?
>>139690965
She's into scat
>>139686471
Kurehito remake. One man can dream.
>>139691520
Too good to be true.
>>139686471
>>139686884
Dang, that's such a shame.
M-Maybe if they ever do a remake, they'll want another anime season to market it, too. God, I feel like Setsuna with her forlorn hypotheticals.
>>139691520
>>139693353
Shut up and take my money!
Touma is a slut with mommy issues.
>>139694639
Yo' mommy has slut issues.
chiaki a best girl and route
Iyo a cute. A CUTE!
>>139680340
Isn't it the other way around? Why would a woman who follows her husband be the evil woman?
>>139696023
Io is so fucking shit. She planned her whole life around getting Haruki and Setsuna together without ever considering Haruki's feelings. And then she threw a massive fit in Coda Kazusa route because that didn't work out.
Takeya is also a shitty best friend.
>>139689272
Jesus fuck
>>139689336
Leaf art in general is pretty bad, I don't know why they can't put out a good product when they make pretty popular games.
>>139694639
Yes and?
>>139698344
Tight deadlines maybe?
what happened to that other male friend with the sick sidebuns
>>139696265
I dunno, going by the anime, Takeya tried to help HaruKazu happen while things were still up in the air, but believed you should stay committed once you made a choice. That's a position I can respect. I think Kazusa had the same belief, which is why she kept steering Haruki to give Setsuna his full attention, tried (but failed) to distance herself gracefully, and felt guilty about finally cracking under the heartache.
The courage to dump your fiancée for an old flame!
I can't think of any two characters that love each other more than Haruki and Kazusa. They're really quite inspiring.
>>139702695
Romeo and Juliet
>>139702695
It reminds me a bit of Tsukihime's layout, where the magnetism between Shiki and Arc is so strong that to do Ciel's route, you have to piss Arc off at every turn and make it clear she's forcing you to help her at gunpoint. And even then, Shiki still kinda likes her when he's forced to choose, and she hijacks Ciel's Good End. And the Far Side routes have to avoid their fateful meeting entirely for the other girls to stand a chance.
>>139703636
Akiha best girl
>>139702695
>Haruki
Yea, while Kazusa was gone, he had been fucking the shit out of Setsuna. This asshole doesn't deserve Kazusa.
>be Setsunafag
>endure the Kazusafags' taunts after the anime ending
>sad
>"oh well the show's finished, I'll get over it eventually"
>WA2 threads appear periodically, most of them starting with THAT webm and Setsuna being shat on every time
>sometimes they even last for days like this one
JUSTAt least this one was more balanced and had interesting discussion
There's a decent amount of Setsunafags but obviously most anons are going to side with the autistic girl.
https://u.pomf.is/mhrdkj.webm
>>139707748
This is still killing me, especially because something like this happened to me once. Except that I didn't win in the end.
>girl telling me she really likes me and wants to get to know me more.
>wants me to go to prom with her even though her boyfriend was there.
>I refuse but she was persistent.
>confess to her after but get rejected (obviously)
Why do this? Shit really hurts.
>>139706780
>>be Setsunafag
There's your mistake.
>>139706780
>be Setsunafag
Fucking how?
>>139706780
>be Setsunafag
Stopped reading there.
>>139708241
>3DPD
Well, there's your problem.
>>139703636
I still can't do Ciel's route. I like Arc a lot and I don't like Ciel at all. But if she wins in the good end, I might as well try.
>>139709995
Indeed, since then I have converted to the holy realm of 2D.
>>139710131
>But if she wins in the good end, I might as well try.
She turns Shiki's life into a love-triangle romcom. Ciel-sensei was not amused.
Woah. This thread is still up for almost 4 days. Fuck it ive only watch Saekano and will now try what is considered Maruto's best work.
>>139711794
See you soon
>>139711794
Read Damekoi.
>>139714186
>Read
>>139711794
You've already watched his best work.
>>139715134
His best work is Parfait.
>>139717697
That's not V.G. Neo
>>139706780
>Setsunafags
RARE
>>139711794
Autistic girls are love.
>thread is still up
how? fucking how?
does the world just hate setsunafags?
>>139721291
yes
>>139707748
>>139721291
The power of best girl Kazusa.
Are the sex scenes voiced in the game?
VNfags, how did you read the VN? I personally mute Haruki so I can self insert better.
>>139702215
I see what you did there
>>139724986
Yes.
5 days
dang
>>139721291
I'm sorry for your loss.
>>139727078
kazusa and haruki got together after 5 years. anything is possible
>>139724986
yeah, even Haruki is voiced, thank god for the option to turn off his voice during the sex scenes.
>>139706780
>be Setsunafag
My honest condolences.
Setsunafags have immaculate taste.
>>139727078
It's nothing impressive, but to be honest I never seen a thread last this long before,
>>139705442
Haruki only fucks setsuna in her true route in coda or in the bad end (kazusa normal) but if you go for kazusa true route haruki never fucks setsuna, you can confirm it in chiaki's route
>>139707748
I was feeling like shit until it showed setsuna alone in her birthday and then I started laughing, how can setsunafags even compete?
>>139729565
>bad end (kazusa normal)
That's the best end.
>>139684664
>>139685459
>Will see if I can think of anything heavier.
Ah, I've got it: Onani Master Kurosawa. The latter third of the series still moves me to tears when I reread it.
>>139729565
I'm not sure what you're talking about, but there are several Setsuna H scenes.
The first one in her closing chapter route,
then one at the start of Coda
Then one at the start of Kazusa's true route, when Haruki visits her during her business trip at the hotel she's staying at,
at least once during Kazusa's normal route,
and once during Setsuna's true end at the very end.
>>139731466
Setsuna is really perfect for NTR.
>>139731466
>wakeupseethiswhatdo.jpg
>>139732551
I want to be by Setsuna's side when she is feeling lonely, and tell her that everything will be ok, that I'll be always near, so she can fall in love with me. And when she has opened her heart enough for me I'll kiss her gently and start making love to her, slowly and with care, hold her hands and see her face full of joy and satisfaction, and right when she is about to climax, when she's showing her most vulnerable and human side tell her "I love you Touma" as I cum inside her.
Seeing how her face changes from extreme happiness to despair with just those words, would be glorious.
>>139731466
hnngnnhn
>>139700201
And Setsuna best girl.
>>139733270
In a bizarro world.
>>139733824
Are you calling our world bizarre?
>>139702695
>>139703443
Yang Guo and Xiaolongnu, from the second Condor Heroes novel. God, they went through so much undeserved shit. (If you've seen Kung Fu Hustle, the landlord and landlady are named after them. The English subs liberally dub them Paris and Helen of Troy.)
>tfw have to go through setsuna route in cc before seeing kazusa again
I guess it makes the reunion sweeter.