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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-03-21/japanese-bd-dvd-sales-down-5.1-percent-from-2014-anime-bd-dvd-sales-down-6.9-percent/.100044

>The general Japanese animation market is down 6.9% from the previous year, with total sales of 49.082 billion yen (about US$440.948 million). The market has now sustained a two-year consecutive decline. The last time that the market garnered sales below 50 billion yen was in 2004, where the market earned 44.091 billion yen (about US$396.161 million).

How do we save anime? What do we need more of?
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>>138903973
We need less anime, the market is over ssaturated with cheap shit that of course isn't going to sell.
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>>138904005
This.
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So, it's adjusted back down to 2003 or so?
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More harem anime.
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>>138903973
> we need daring, new ideas for anime that break away from the tropes that are common in current seasons

feel free to fill out the template with your ideas
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Honestly, Osomatsu san is a recent step in the right direction. Relatively unique, aims for a big but not entirely tapped market, and high quality. It just panders smarter instead of harder.
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We just need less of everything.
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>>138904005
Pretty much this. Hard for anything to stand out when there's so much similar shit coming out at the same time. It's not like the otaku market is so discerning that they will turn up their noses to derivative junk, but if there's 3 very similar derivative shows at the same time it just weakens the draw.
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>>138904144
is it really worth watching?
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>>138904073
1. Alright guys, we need a new best selling anime
2. more LN adaptation
3. more manga adaptation
4. more VN adaptation?
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I'm not really surprised considering there hasn't been any hyped original anime in the last 2 years. The last major hype storm was KLK. What has the industry produced since then? Just remakes, sequels, and adaptations of established franchises really. You look at 2015 and there was basically no buzz about anything. It wouldn't make sense if sales went up for that year.
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>>138904236
>more VN adaptation?
Fuck no, VNs adapt to anime as well as vidya does to movie, for those with multiple routes, at least.
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>>138904144
>even though we fuck each other every night, we are not gays.
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>>138904185
It's funny as fuck (if a little bit hit and miss) so yeah, particularly if you like Gintama since they share a director.
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>>138904292
Why can't they choose one route instead, like mass twincest in yns
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Wasn't fucking Love Live in 2014 though?
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>>138904256
Charlotte came close in hype, at least in Japan.
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>>138904256
> hype storm was KLK
if /v/ and reddit being retards is a hype storm then sure, realistically there hasn't been a big show since madoka
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>>138904345
Yet it deflated itself in the end. And was only 1 cour besides. 2015 is like the year of self-deflating hype. Charlotte, OPM, Gakkou Gurashi, Overlord, Kekkai Sensen, Junketsu no Maria. All these shows got a lot of attention either before they aired or during, but ended up petering out at the finish, no staying power at all. The fact they were all 1 cour wonders probably contributed, with 2 cour shows it sticks around long enough that people get used to it.
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>>138904340
Yes.
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>>138903973
2015 was shit.
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>>138904405
madoka was a one cour, you're a retard, klk is in the "sold barely above average" club as wel
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>>138904438
Madoka has nothing to do with this, why do you keep bringing it up?
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>>138904005
>We need less late-night anime
FTFY
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>>138904438
KLK averaged nearly 12k per volume, that's way above average. In fact it qualifies as a best selling series.
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>>138903973
The Japanese population is shrinking, and there are fewer young people who are the ones who buy anime.
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>>138904256
Are you basing 'hype' on how much /a/ cares? Osomatsu is an original anime even if it's technically a sequel, and the sales speak for itself in regards to how popular it is in Japan.
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>>138904474
because it was the last show that had an impact on the market? are you retarded? klk, opm and the other reddit trash sold less than fucking kuroko no basket
>>138904489
more like 9k, jesus how fucking retarded are you? do you know how much madoka, monogatari or snk sold? if it's below 50k then it's just wow, you managed to not suck complete dick, good job
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>>138904005
It's less about the quality and more about the economic situation Japan had got into.
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More comedy
More honest, fun harems that don't get bogged down with ACTION or DRAMA plotlines that go nowhere.
More action originals that aren't just bland toku derivatives
Fewer Light Novel adaptations

The biggest problem facing the anime industry right now is the abysmal quality of the writing and scenario planning. Part of this is the fault of the source material, as a disproportionate number of shows being made are adaptations of lousy LNs or "safe" manga that don't end up actually being all that safe, but the other half is just the writing and scenario planning in general adhering too strictly to a formula that just isn't working.

When you spend 8 episodes fucking around and then suddenly introduce PLOT in the last 2, nobody cares about the plot, and you spent a whole cours doing nothing. The formula hasn't adapted to this obsession with single-cour running slots the industry has turned towards lately and the result is tonnes of shows that try to be both plot-driven and character-driven and don't have enough time to do it right. Often with adaptations it feels like the focus is exclusively on pandering to fans of the source material and not making a coherent, structured standalone show that new fans can enjoy. Material is cut, pasted, switched and swapped until the whole thing is a frankenstein's monster and often for no other reason than to just make sure that all of the characters in the top 5 slots of the popularity poll get introduced and their screentime maximized. The show fails to be enjoyable on its own and stands only as a big "buy the source material' mascot advertisement.
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>>138904511
>more like 9k
No, I mean 11,700 per volume. I'm looking at the data right now. And yes I know how much Monogatari and Madoka sold, so fucking what? You seem to use /v/ logic where if something isn't in the top 3 then it's shit. In the anime market selling over 10k is a fantastic success, the vast majority of titles don't even get close to 10k per volume.

And anyway, anime sales only went up after Monogatari and Madoka aired, so they have nothing to do with this since we're talking about a very recent decline, so we have to talk about what changed from 2013 to 2016. Are you even following this discussion?
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>>138904256
>kill le kill
>hype storm
>outsold by Arpeggio that season

kekerino
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>>138903973
>How do we save anime?
Bail out Japan's 200% of GDP debt

But since that's impossible, probably more variety. It costs like 500$ to buy a full season, can't sell too many anime to one guy, he'll starve.
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>>138904292

follow the template at least. the 4th comment was supposed to where the guy was blown away from the office.
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What about merchandise? It's not a strong market like dvd/bd media?

>>138903973
>How do we save anime?
Make a law between studios: A new studio need at least x years of being in the work before making an anime, every studio can only make one anime per season and only 2 one cour anime per year.
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>>138904554
> 9362 Kill la Kill
whoopdiedoo, and yeah it's not even knb or infinite stratos league, so it's garbage, only /v/tard crossie newfags like you go on about garbage shows like this being "super hype"
that's the fucking point you retard, jesus, anime sales went up because madoka and monogatari had an impact on the market, now after 5 years that impact is gone and there were no other big shows to keep people buying anime, that including klk and the rest, since they're shit shows that aren't top 3 in even their own seasons
>In fact it qualifies as a best selling series.
so yeah, just shut the fuck up idiot, you have no clue what you're talking about
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>>138903973
Increase BD prices to $600 a season instead of $500.
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ITT /a/nons once again talk about shit they know nothing about
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>>138904634
>What about merchandise? It's not a strong market like dvd/bd media?
Only for non late-night anime.
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>>138904236
>more VN adaptation
We only got around 2-3 of those each year, isn't it?
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>>138903973
I just wish there were less adaptations of intellectually incestuous and garbage light novels. Or that they at least picked decent ones, there has to be at least a few lying around.
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Too many shit adaptations, its not like the source material has to be the greatest but their adapting bland LNs and VNs, sometimes even manga, that has absolutely nothing going for it just to keep their animators busy. I rather watch garbage that at least has some high points than something so forgettable as a lot of these adaptations
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The market basically needs a complete overhaul. Less shit adaptations that just serve as advertisments for the source material, more original shows that are good and maybe releases that aren't $80+ for 2 episodes.

So basically shit that isn't going to happen.
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Currently Amazon jp rankings has imas #5 and konosuba #6 so it is okay sales wise.
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Curious, but is there any place with comments from anime buyers in Japan about how shows are priced in the rest of the world? I wanna know what they think about the fact that I can buy all of a 50 episode series like Soul Eater for a third of the price that they pay for 2 or 3 episodes.
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Bring back harem comedies. Most harems these days spend way too much time on chuuni bullshit like fighting and magic and pseudo-mecha and all that shit no one cares about. Just give me fucking girls and humor, cut back on the infodumps.
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More ecchi.
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We need to sacrifice a couple of studios. How about Kyoani and White Fox/Silver Link?
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>>138903973
the anime market is too specialized toward selling to the hard core otaku. It needs a new business model, which supports general entertainment and rewards quality.

Unfortunately~ this is unlikely.

So what will have to happen is studios will have to die. The whole industry will contract, and the best of the best will survive by either entrenching itself deeper into it's niche audience or finding a new one. Either way the market got bloated around 2007~ish, it was just a matter of time before it came back down to earth.
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2015 was one of the worst anime years I've seen, no surprise about the low sales.
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>>138904910
Sounds good, also add DEEN to the sacrifice list.
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>>138905025
There's been a general downward trend since 2012 and it feels like '15 hit the nadir. Not to say that 2016 has been much better, but it's definitely had a much stronger start
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>>138903973
that´s what they get for making shit anime every season
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>>138905113
This Spring looks promising. Maybe it won't be shit.
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>>138905025
>tfw Death Parade was a giant misfire
>Summer 2015 was the embodiment of hype shows that shot themselves in the foot one way or another; Overlord bleeding out the least while Charlotte died of blood loss.
>Fall was OPM and two samey battle harems

Damn.
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>>138905208
Probably the only good thing to come out of the whole of 2015 was the second half of Shirobako in winter.
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We need a return to the smart and thoughtful anime like Lain, Eva, Texhnolyze, etc.

Market is currently filled to the brim with garbage.
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>>138905250
I also enjoyed the second half of Akatsuki no Yona, but maybe that's just me.
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>>138905250
Charlotte was better than memebako tho
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>>138905250
>tfw my favorite show of 2015 was one of the 3 summer shows that fucked itself the hardest.

The reaction faces will be burned in my mind. Dammit going into anime comas to play YGO on simulators.
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>>138905327
/a/ was terrible when it was airing. "COULD X BEAT HIM?" were so fucking cancerous.
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>>138905388
Its what happens when the only shows outside OPM are shitpost bait battle harems, weird revival of a old Japanese comedy show, and El Dorado meets MGS.
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cut down on the harems
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How about we do nothing and anime finally dies. I couldn't care less if it happened, since I don't even watch animes.
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ramp up on the harems
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>>138905463
> animes
> not reading manga
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even out on the harems
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enact no change on the harems
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>>138904866
>and all that shit no one cares about
Nah. People love that stuff. It's just Japan is not giving any material to love nowadays. People complain about all the LNshit, but I still managed to enjoy some of the popular ones years ago. Nowadays I'm not really sure if they're not just having a contest to see who can write the worst stories and biggest Gary Stus.
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>>138905388
I just hid cancerous threads so they didn't spoil my enjoyment from the series. The same with Umaru posters. Umaru was like Ika musume's character and show itself was fine, but shitposters triggered autists and turned them into haters.
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>>138904866
>only harem that succeeded in winter 2015 was Saekano

You'd think they would've gotten the message already.
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>>138903973
More originals.
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>>138905208
The best shows of 2015 were the second half of garo, one punch man and concrete revolutio. Everything else was mediocre or shit.

Summer of this season looks promising so far.
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>>138904256
>Just remakes, sequels, and adaptations of established franchises
Sounds familiar
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Of course the industry is going to struggle harder and harder when they try to enforce the status quo of otaku being the key buyers

It's pitiful how little animation is being utilized as a medium. It's "safer" to adapt some light novel, manga or even 4koma playing it straightforward, if not page for page, with art styles that typically only vary in small details like character anatomy. Dozens of forgettable series like this pumped out like an assembly line and yet many of them end up being the best selling, with even those sales rarely being impressive.
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The problem is that an increasing proportion of seasonal anime are intended only as advertisement for their source material; this has largely always been the case, but only now are we seeing seasonal lineups dominated (>80%) by LN/VN/manga adaptations. These tend not to be products the studios animating them can take pride in, rather they are mere mealtickets.

>What do we need more of?
Money.
And a lot of it.

Money is what facilitates production of original anime, and feeds the auter directors that conceive them.
Money is what keeps talented animators employed, preventing mass-outsourcing to Koreans.
Money is what buys primetime/priority airing slots, giving a wider audience and the opportunity of less censorship.
Money is what lets a studio adapt a piece of material to its conclusion; instead of dropping on a cliffhanger or hamfisting an original ending.

Money doesn't grow on trees however. The Diet needs to implement some kind of Government-sponsored incentives for domestic creative ventures. Maybe make 50% of film (and anime) production budgets tax-deductible like Germany does.
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>>138903973
>How do we save anime? What do we need more of?
Just stop or make DVDs even cheaper. Keep the corrections and better quality with the BD, but also make it a bit cheaper.

Motivate people to buy your shit instead of streaming, you fucking jews.

There, fucking saved.
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>>138905025
I dunno, 2014 was worse.
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>>138903973
less of characters standing still to talk for 30% of the episode or more
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>>138906796
No.
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>>138903973
Cut down on the retarded shit like harem and random speculation and focus on franchises that people want more of and have been proven to sell well and are not just rehashes but actual continuations.

Examples: Code Geass 3, UC Gundam and more Evangelion.
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>>138906902
All I remember from 2014 was KLK.

Seemed pretty weak. Sure 2015 had hype fuck ups but it seemed more interesting than 2014 with fuck ups like Cross Ange and A/Z
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>>138906796
2014 was one of the best recent years for anime. Lots of great shows.
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>>138904005
this so much this put some quality into things like one piece i mean it makes no sense you have a top selling series but then you half ass it on animation. Then every few weeks you throw the audience a bone and animate 15-20 seconds except its so well done it feels out of place since everything else is so shitty.

TLDR
Less shit more quality.
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>>138907008
Well, that's just you.

2014 had Space Dandy, Barakamon, Nozki-kun, HxH, Ping pong, Haikyuu, Baby steps, NGNL, Garo, SN Bahamut, Shirobako, Yona, Gochiusa
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>>138907174
Don't forget the most hardhitting one -- Love Live.
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>>138904073
Fresh from the sources
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>>138906187
>mfw he'll be in his 70's for the next Indiana Jones movie
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>>138907552
By that point it'll be an ensemble of stunt doubles with his face cgi'd over them.
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The current season is unbelievably shit. I have been following seasonal anime since 2009 and this is the first time I haven't been watching even one show.
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>>138904005
/thread
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Koutetsujou no Kabaneri will save anime next season, right?
Maybe?
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>>138907940
It will absorb the shitposting like a magnet, leaving better threads for the other airing shows.
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外人様よぉ心配してくれるのはいいけどさぁ。
金払ってないのにどうやったら助けられるとかwwwwwww
馬鹿なのか?
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>>138905795
umaru is really nothing at all like ika, umaru is an entitled brat who abuses her brother and whines a lot

ika is a determined invader with no sense and a big enough heart to work off her debts instead of invading
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>>138908023
Sorry jap, I don't speak ching chong wang lang dim son language.

Could you kindly speak English?
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>>138903973
>How do we save anime? What do we need more of?
BIG
ANIME
TIDDIES
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>anime sales down
Looks like we need to use 'that'...
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Osomatsu will save it this time
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>>138905250
Haikyuu S2 is 2015
https://u.pomf.is/pofysk.webm
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>>138908179
gaijin are worried about anime dieing but won't pay for it
are you stupid?

something like that
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>>138907669
>inb4 he gets the Paul Walker treatment
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>>138904292
cant they make a vn/anime hybrid like shiny days?
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Anime has become nothing but a marketing vessel for LNs/manga.

The whole industry is so fucked that even taking the smallest risk will never be worth it, and creating something original is entirely out of the question unless you're gainax leftovers.
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>>138903973
No need to save anything. The sales are down because of all shitty anime that came out lately. The amount of shit is actualy incredible. 2-3 decent ones, and a bunch of harem/ moe/shit plot and 90% fanservice. For all i care maybe it's better if all this cancerous content just disappears.
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>>138908295
Yeah, I can't wait for anime to be saved by tumblr bait.
Fuck off.
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>>138905804
Apparently writing a good harem is actually hard.
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>>138905250
>OPM
>Lupin III
>Gundam IBO
>Rakudai
>Concrete Revo

The end of 2015 was packed with fun.
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>>138903973
ITT: Talking shit without even reading

Holy fuck, this looks like a /v/ thread where no one know shit about what they're talking

>>138907060
>The market has now sustained a two-year consecutive decline.
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>>138904066
>harem
To the trash it goes
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>>138906998
>focus on franchises that people want more
No please.

>Code Geass 3, UC Gundam and more Evangelion.
Seriously, NO
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rip
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>>138903973
With the crap they were releasing did they expect their sales to rise?
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>>138908375
There's plenty of dumb gaijins that buy anime and specially merchandise though
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let it die
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>It further notes that in recent years, anime has expanded to related markets, such as music, live concert events, and streaming, and that 2015's sales may reflect this.
Streaming services like Gyao! are becoming more important to the Japanese market. Interesting to see that.
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>>138904256
>You look at 2015 and there was basically no buzz about anything.
Did you actually intentionally ignore Osomatsu-san?
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>>138905327
Fuck off it was awful.
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>>138908179
今後のアニメがどうなるかの鍵である外人様がそんな態度じゃどうしようもないぞ…
JAPは集めることが大好きなんだよ!
それか中国に期待しろ!市場は日本よりでかいぞ。
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>>138903973
That's because I stopped watching anime and manga since last year. None of them interest me anymore.
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>>138909580
Apparently the chinese market is bigger than Japan according to this nip. Also he's mocking all the gaijins.
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>>138909660
>Apparently the chinese market is bigger than Japan according to this nip.
That's just proof that it's not a nip (and not even a chink), but just some troll who can write moon-runes.
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>>138909757
I think it's half true. Something about chinese companies buying rights or something.
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なんで日本語は月の言語なんですかねぇ…
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>>138908023
>>138909580
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>>138909847
(´°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥ω°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥`)
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>>138909660
>he's mocking all the gaijins
Hey >>138909580 we gave you democracy and fast food chains. And yet we don't get a single a 'thank you'.
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>>138909580
>>138909811
Should you be discussing Youtube celebrities over at DJT?
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>>138909580
>中国アニメ
>グッド
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>>138909799
That was just about Chinese companies buying licensing rights to air Japanimation for China, competing with other Chinese companies for that stuff. Same stuff like which American company buys the license to air mongolian motion pictures in America or which European company buys the license to air siamese scrolls in Europe and so on.
Utterly irrelevant for Japan's animation industry itself as long as they're not the ones setting up shop in the parts of the world where they're selling the license themselves.
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>>138909891
どう見たら私が外人のことをからかっているように見えるのでしょうか…

民主主義をありがとう。ファストフードをありがとう。これでいいですか?

次何くれるなら…そうですね。

この腐った国に原子爆弾をもう一度落としてください。

jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap
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>>138908477
Inb4
>Painting Happy trees with Bob Ross?
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>>138910059
それはちょっと…
中国が可愛そうでしたね…
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>>138903973
We need more people buying anime
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>>138903973
>showing that overall DVD and Blu-ray Disc sales are down 5.1% in 2015

>By comparison, 2014 saw an overall decrease of 8.7% from 2013.

>The DVD and Blu-ray Disc market has been in annual decline for 11 straight years.

>As of 2015, the market has declined about 40% from its peak in 2004,

>The last time that the market garnered sales below 50 billion yen was in 2004,

So basically, after BD/DVD, anime has been selling 50b+ for about ten years straight, and it's now reflecting the lack of interest in BD/DVD that nips are having

Where is anime dying?

Stop making a storm for nothing OP
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>>138910212
>making a storm for nothing
Human tradition.
Lurk more.
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>>138910212
>As of 2015, the market has declined about 40% from its peak in 2004,
>The last time that the market garnered sales below 50 billion yen was in 2004
Is t this contradictory?
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>>138910135
>>138909891
He's thanking you for the democracy and fast food chains. He's also thanking you for dropping the atomic bomb on their country.
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>>138910342
tell them they're welcome
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>>138910271
Not exactly.

The BD/DVD market is not related directly with the JP animation. There are series, movies, etc.

Think like:
>BD/DVD hits its peak in 2004 with other mediaa
>JP animation sees this and starts using BD/DVD as a result in 2005
>JP animation starts selling like hot cakes
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>>138904340
>Wasn't fucking Love Live in 2014 though?

Also Frozen since they also included foreign animated movies
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>>138903973
Haven't some original shows recently been essentially ghost written by committees who don't know the last thing about writing? That might be part of the problem.
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>>138903973
>>138904005
Better get 5 more reincarnated into a Fantasy world/trapped in an RPG series with a paperthin author insert.
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>>138904779
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ITT: Filthy Gaijins telling japs how they should handle their own industry.
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>>138904779
Didn't Kyoani change some stuff in musaigen to make it less crappy than the original LN? Aren't bear loli and and another character animu-only?
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>>138910177
おちんちん
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>>138910494
who are the top ones?

rei and haruhi?
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>>138910727
Oh! Oh! I know what this means.
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>>138910772
I'm guessing rei, random keion, madoka, kirito.

I thought it was yuki that played the guitar.
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Start cutting fantasy harems for a start.

Do more old adaptations.
More good originals that don't rely on cliches or mecha.
Cut down on the fucking tropes we see every year.

Is a start.
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>>138910727
( ゚∀゚)o彡°おっぱい!おっぱい!
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>>138903973
I blame Abenomics
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>>138910688
Ruru and Kurumi the loli and the fairy are anime only characters and they replaced most of Reina's scenes with Haru with Mai or cut them completely. example being that Mai is the one who gets her ass painted red in the anime where as in the novel it's Reina who gets her butt painted.

Koito is a generic TsunKuudere whose a bitch to everyone else but very nice to Haru when they're alone. Where as in the anime she starts off cold, then becomes sorta nice, then goes to being smiling and having fun with them.

They cut out most of the harem elements such as the girls not really getting along with each other, doing that whole arm drag thing with Haru and declaring each other love rivals.

The anime feels more like a group of lonely kids hanging out then it does harem, even with flags being raised when every girl has a moment of "I want to fug him" face like Mai in the monkey episode, Koito in her the episode she debuted in, and Reina in the bunny episode.

Basically it's a harem without the harem elements. That makes for a pretty dull show because if they're not trying to fuck MC and getting along, then it's nothing but super natural slice of life which is probably what Kyoani wanted.
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>>138911008
this desu
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>>138908953
>ITT: Talking shit without even reading
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No one wants to own a fucking dvd.
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>>138908077
Maybe he meant same format of source material, both are few pages per chapter.
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>>138905350
>memebako
Are you retarded?
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>>138911035
It's better for it.
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>>138904256
I hope you mean hyped in Japan & just no on a/, because that would be ridiculous. Osomatsu is the biggest anime going on now.
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Maybe if they didn't rape the wallets of their customers they could sell more.
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落ち着けよwwwwww外人様共wwwwww

日本は死んでいくしかない国だろ?wwwwwwwwwwwwwww


そんな国のちっぽけな産業であるアニメについて議論するなんて馬鹿だとは思わないのか?wwwwwwwwwwwwwww

それより中国アニメのことを議論する方が有意義だぞwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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>>138903973
How do Japs manage to buy overpriced BDs with their shitty wages?
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>>138911068
>>138911183
This.

Fucking this.

Anime is obviously fine, what people don't like is being jewed.
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>>138911298
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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>>138911811
(¯―¯٥)
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动漫交给其他中国。去不知。 (适合)
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stop making shit anime would be a good start
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We need more harems, more lewd harems, Push the envelop as far as you can without being labeled a hentai. Do it with godly animation and voice acting.
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Keit-Ai will save anime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcVGDV67L-g
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>>138912221
We really do need more Qwasers,Manyuus and Valkyrie Drives.
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its a incoming crash

to much anime, to much BAD anime. its just like in the 80 with the console boom, its the video game crash all over again
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>>138912259
こんなアニメが変態日本人に売れるとでも?
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>>138903973
>down 6,9% sometimes
>up even more some other times

When are companies going to realize that growth is never exponential? At some points it stagnates or regresses. Stop getting your menstrual pads in a bunch about it and ride out the storm.
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>>138910271
The first quote is about the overall DVD/Blu-Ray market.

The second quote is specifically about anime sales.
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>>138903973
>What do we need more of?
Time for studios to make anime. Shit quality anime ultimately stems from producers having to rush work to meet absurd deadlines. The only real way to fix this is for publishers to request less anime produced per season, which doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon.
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>>138912597
Why would they? They work for animé companies. They take the jobs, they shit out the product and move on to the next. It's not the producers fault their bosses and CEO's are stuck in the 1900's of business.
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They need to stop adapting things.

Or at least adapt things that would actually sell. Too many adaptations only exist to promote the source material, which indeed is how it's always been, but that does not help the animation studios any when the adaptations are shit and sell below average
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>>138913198
Why don't the studios negotiate a fixed rate rather than hinching their bets on the animé being succesful? It's not every day that Attack on titan or Naruto comes along after all.
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>>138903973
I have no data to back up my claim just an observation. but I do think anime is MUVH more watched now than ever. I think most of a/ would agree that it's becoming more agreed more mainstream among a variety of cultures. expl. atot, opm, tghoul, etc and that anime similar has done very well in the market place. but people are not buying the hard copies when you can stream now for free on most sites. also most companies now poor loads of money into the merchandise and will make more from that than the BR sales. so no anime will not go away for quite some time.
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>>138903973
>What do we need more of?

Japanese people.
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>>138913442
Well seeing as that's clearly not going to happen any time soon, I think the Japanese studios are going to have to come to terms with the idea that more and more of their profits will come from overseas. They need to put more effort into marketing in other countries. I'm starting to see this for the more popular shows already, thankfully.
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>>138911298
kek 中国のアニメ。

日本の経済は辞退します
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>>138910583
>someone foreign can't have opinions on the Japanese industry

You're a fucking moron.
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>>138903973
More anime like Akame ga Kill. Good guys slaying bad guys, anime been trying to be original and failing miserably lately.
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>>138913349
>Why don't the studios negotiate a fixed rate
How would that help the quality of the adaptation?
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If i tried to make my gut bigger every year so that it showed a positive percential growth at all times i would die before i even got noticed by fat-positive media.

Why the fuck do these japanese retards think business is anything but staying afloat while making any kind of money, big or small.
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>>138913641
>More anime like Akame ga Kill.
○アカメが斬る! 【全8巻】
巻数   初動     2週計    発売日
     BD(DVD)   BD(DVD)
01巻 2,378(*,776) 2,755(*,***) 14.10.15 ※合計 3,531枚
02巻 1,481(*,366) *,***(*,***) 14.11.19 ※合計 1,847枚
03巻 1,376(*,***) *,***(*,***) 14.12.17
04巻 1,351(*,365) *,***(*,***) 15.01.21 ※合計 1,716枚
05巻 1,250(*,343) *,***(*,***) 15.02.18 ※合計 1,593枚
06巻 1,224(*,320) *,***(*,***) 15.03.18 ※合計 1,544枚
07巻 1,183(*,312) *,***(*,***) 15.04.15 ※合計 1,495枚
08巻 1,288(*,334) *,***(*,***) 15.05.20 ※合計 1,622枚

Great idea!

>implying the manga didn't go to shit
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>>138913673
>We
ll make it good for LODSOFEMONE

vs

>well produce shit but bank on royalties if it's a global succes
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>>138906187
Don't you fucking compare the anime industry to hollywood.

The anime industry at least doesn't have garbage parody movies or shows like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksJvEH-R_ew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY-zJtYYolo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV2rUbNVC7w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqg8pji2FWI
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We're just lucky Madhouse's capeshit anime didn't sell.
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I miss 24-26 ep. seasons.
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>>138903973
COOOOAAARRRRAAAL
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>>138903973
Does it include frozen bd sales?

if it is then it's kinda moot, frozen bd sales alone is bigger than last season all volume combined together

frozen sold like what? 2 million?
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>>138913769
>he doesn't like Scary Movie
Top fucking plebiean.
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>>138904345
That crashed and burned fairly quickly.
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>>138906495
In the conservative world of Japanese politics this is not going to happen.
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>>138913940
all the movies shown there are far below the level of Scary Movie, anon.
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>>138904073
>we need daring, new ideas for anime that break away from the tropes that are common in current seasons
Exactly, that's what you need, while the Japanese need the opposite. Guess whose needs matter more to producers.
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>>138914313
I like how most of this thread is like

>They need more what I like and less what I hate
>Never bought a BD/DVD ever

Anime is not dying, anime is alive and well. BDs and mostly DVDs that are dying.
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>>138903973
>How do we save anime?
Touhou anime by SHAFT, it will break the sales records and boost the anime market by 50% single handed in one year
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>>138903973
Depends on whether the entire japanese market is contracting or just anime

If it's the former, nothing. If the latter, also nothing.
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>save anime

Yeah just import and support them that way. Not by buying shitty dub releases.
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>>138905452
Wait, what was El Dorado meets MGS? That sounds cool
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>>138903973
>What do we need more of?
Japanese people having sex, and raising their birth rate.
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>>138916560
Heavy Object.
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>>138916616
>More Japanese people
But then the ones I keep locked in my basement will lose their value.
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>>138916616
despite the birth rate being low isn't the country still overpopulated? It seems like a lower birthrate would be a path towards some kind of equilibrium. But what do I know?
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>>138917994
Their food and housing prices aren't fucking wild, according to basic supply and demand economics they aren't overpopulated.

Unless you mean something silly like "they have skyscrapers" or "It looks uncomfortable to live in those spaces"
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>>138917994
But yes, if something goes down over time and no government force was used to put them down, a decreasing population does imply that there is an equilibrium population below the current one.

Sorry for kneejerking.
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I'd like to see proper adaptations of finished works, instead of series that are only a few years old and still being printed.
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>>138916558
Nips don't care about import sales either.

Its lose-lose
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