What possessed Watanabe to make Axmann look like the least evil Stasi?
PSA from the Ministerium für Staatssicherheit
Speaking Guidelines Nr. 7
Schmidt and his accomplices and men in the background plunged our German people into war and misery, shame and disgrace.
The result of Schmidt's rule was the death of thousands, a ruined Berlin, the devastation of German fortifications, and the bullying of Katja.
Crime followed crime, jails, prisons, work camps, and unparalleled betrayal were Schmidt's methods of rule.
New crimes are constantly discovered. Their final extent probably will not be completely known for many years.
Millions of refugees and homeless, hunger, misery, bullying, and the decline of morale — these are the direct consequences of Schmidt's rule.
No external enemy has ever done as much damage to the DDR as Schmidt did.
It is therefore in Katja and the DDR’s national interest to avoid a repetition of Schmidt’s disastrous policies and crimes and to find a new peaceful and democratic path.
The prerequisite to that, however, is that all traitors be strictly punished and that all traces of his rule be wiped out for all time.
Only under the leadership of Beatrix Bhreme and the guidance of Katja Waldheim will the DDR emerge victoriuos against the tide of counter-revolutionary forces and the BETA.
By law only Genosse Theodore can bully Katia.
Es lebe die Deutsche Demokratische Republik
Official Schwarzesmarken soundtrack by Roger Waters of Pink Floyd is the only soundtrack for current events, comrades.
Also, commissar Gretel just got the Puhdy's last album right before going to REMOVE MORE STASI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxITXgetyQw
So let's say Beatrix converted from Jürgenism to Katholicism?
How badly does she screw up Katia's message?
Choose one, you'll break their hearts if you cheat.
Can someone explain Schmidt's plan?
I hate Suzy.
>the Puhdys dedicate a song to Gretel
Is there an event anywhere in the whole Muv Luv extended universe that's more hype than the entirety of Operation Ouka?
I know the answer is no, but I'm asking anyway.
What the fuck possessed Kouki to give the most hate able character of Schwarzesmarken a prequel novel?
>Insert song plays
>They just cut out a chunk and didn't even bother make it transition properly
I don't see it
Well don't most of them stay at the hive anyway and only come out once it reaches a saturation point also since lasers can zero in on electronic devices wouldn't they just shoot them out of the ground.
I wouldn't say he's the least evil, but he is far more likable than Beatrix, Schmidt, or Lise. Beatrix in particular may not be the most evil stasi, but she is absolutely the most detestable and least likable.
Axmann always seemed like the type who does evil to further his goals. In comparison, Lise and Beatrix look like the do evil because they enjoy it. Sure, Axmann enjoys being a douche too, but you always get that that's secondary to whatever else he's got going on, whereas the female stasi look like they'd be doing evil because whether they had a goal or not. Axmann would slap a baby to get 50 dollars. He have fun while doing it, but those 50 buckaroos are what he's really after. Beatrix in comparison, would slap a baby just cause. That she gets 50 buck on top of everything else is just an added bonus.
There's also the way they frame the scenes and the music used. Axmann doesn't get the ominous music or skewed angles that the female stasi get. So it subtly cues you in that Axmann isn't as horrible as the other stasi.
That's why, despite really being more heinous, Axmann comes off as less evil
There is not enough screenshots I can take to do justice of the number of badass female characters in this anime. One reason I really love Schwarzesmarken for are the characters provided, and in a still highly communist country such as East Germany, it's so refreshing to see stories including such diverse women characters who are strong in separate ways - intelligence, independence, kindness, and fighting strength, whether evil or not. And these female characters still look sexy while being their awesome selves.
The episode aired this week was great. I personally love to see military strategy and action - mainly because we hear and see so little of them in real life (movies tend to glorify those sequences). What did you all think of the episode?
These guys are going to end up shooting each other surrounding her like that.
You remember episodes 4 and 5, when Gretel goes full commie zealot, and is annoying as fuck. Thats her personality as of vol.1 of the LN, and Moonspeakers claim, she only gets better in last couple of LNs. Beatrix however, starts sexy and charismatic, without any evil shown until later.
man, Gretel was a good girl she didnt deserve
to get shot
>That boob jiggle
So that's how her perky twins move while having anal with her.
I don't like that outfit she has. Why they didn't make something more pretty? I mean really, they do all the work to sho off properties of woman body every time and then they show this thing
Standart Eishi coat, there is nothing to be done.
>Gretel dosn't have the Militärpolitische Hochschule Wilhelm Pieck badge
one job etc etc
but the art is fucking neato
The will of the party leads her
I am freaked how slow this thread is going and how people are not acting like total dickheads.
It is nice.
She was a bitch, but I kinda miss her now.
I want to take her for a nice dinner and then have vanilla, consensual sex, with lots of hand holding, kissing, and head patting, with her!
Afterwards we will snuggle and I will tell her what a good girl she is!
After I go home I will call her in the morning and say what a good night it was!
Look fags. I didn't fuck up and invite /k/ or /pol/ this time.
That is what happened.
Now thats something I can get behind.
He should've kept Pham's flowers but
Damn. Just imagine Lise teaching Katia how to suck a dick gets me diamonds.
Theo: muh promise of protection
Katia: muh theodor-san
Lise: muh oni-chan's dick
Beatrix: muh Jurgen
Iris: muh oni-chan
Gretel: muh party
Anett: muh friends
Walter: muh polandballs
Sylvia: muh walter
Kirke: muh west germany
Axmann: muh discs
Stasi's fuccboi: muh axmann
Did I miss someone?
I wonder if Katia pissed in the cockpit so that a bit of her would also be part of Theo's new TSF.
Watanabe is a communist sympathizer.
It's pretty much classic "that's not real communism" revisionism. Depicting the Stasi as an evil, brutal organization that gets otherwise good people to do horrible things by exploiting them at their weakest moments is a lot more damning than just showing it as an organization with too much power that allows evil people to run wild. That leaves open the possibility that maybe communism could have worked if it was executed better, rather than admitting that entire system was defective from the start.
ompare it to Unsere Mütter Unsere Fäter, which is dead serious, or even a Vasily Grossman novel, which satire.
When someone wants to demonstrate how corrupting and evil an organization is, they do so by giving us sympathetic, relatable characters we can identify with easily, then show us how easily these characters break and proceed to do horrible things when they are forced into impossible situations.
Simply writing off the characters as being evil themselves otherizes them and allows the viewer to entertain the delusion that they would behave differently in that character's situation. This allows for the possibly that the institutions in question are corrupted, rather than being the corrupting influence.
In the case of Schwarzesmarken, the institutions the director means to absolve are the Stasi and the Communist Party, so he therefore comes across as sympathetic to them.
If you grew up with an imouto as like Lise you'd have a hard time letting go too.
Muh Soviet Union
>someone likes communism
>obviously it's a slav
Only if we get to hold hands and make sure Lise feels loved.
Axmann wants to free Germany of dependency on foreign factions and make Germany great again instead of simply a slave nation controlled by Moscow or Washington
Aside for the whole love of torture and Stasi wiretapping everybody, he's a pretty cool dude. Him and Theo could make a buddy comedy where they live together and have to put up with the other's foibles.
Naive, anon, naive.
You wouldn't gangrape her, you'll just be in your delusion that you have control.
By the time the night is over everyone will be drained alive, both semen and soul.
You can't win against the Stasi.
Who would you rather fuck: Katarina or Farka?
Katarina is this cutie.
Farka is the girl who got blasted last episode.
Will we see Martin next episode, there to be atleast one save in the name of true love. Any requqest for webm, transparents or stitches?
I'd go with Farka.
Anime version squeaks better and also has that whole haughty bitch thing going on.
LN Farka is loyal.
Yugoslavia was fantastic.
That is while everyone ruled equally and not when Serbs tried to take over and everything went to shit.
They have no access to Turkish flour, Tunisian olive oil, Belgian chocolates, Dutch weed and French chefs.
You can probably fuck girls like Beatrix and Iris for a really good chocolate cake.
Probably not, for a variety of reason. Chief among them is that Iris and Beatrix were both elites and would have access to Western products. Beatrix probably even still uses Western beauty products.
Now Annette or Pham is another story.
>tfw no Yugoslavia
What's Pepe's role in all this
None of them of them will bear children, anon.
That's a noble goal, my friend
Jurgen really ruined everything for everyone, eh?
Yugoslavia was fine while Tito was alive because Tito was pragmatic and competent. Needless to say, he was also not a Serb. But I repeat myself.
Yugoslavia was also helped by the fact that Tito remained outside the grasp of the Soviet Union, something that would have been impossible if Tito was a Serb because Serbs never miss a chance to put a Russian dick in their mouths.
Shame next week is the last episode!
Fuck man, it was a fun ride with you guys,
How will the anime handle next week's penetration? Will they show Beatrix's reaction as Theo enters her, or will it just be one MiG stabbing another MiG?
Proper communism died with this man.
I need this. I don't want another letdown like Esdese's death. Give me blood, give me something cathartic, especially after how much of a bitch she's been set up to be.
Not even a closeup of her coughing up blood as she talks?
Nuke shit indiscriminately.
The anime idea of him being a Soviet deep cover agent puts a whole new spin on things. Originally, he was just a dude out for power, if he looked like he would lose to BETA or rebels, he'd nuke every inch of East Germany and flee somewhere, probably to Soviet lines.
Not necessarily. First of all, Laser clsses can be thinned, and second, they won't be able to shoot things like nuclear artillery shells down, or hit buried mines.
Can't we just run a train on her that's kind and consensual? Everyone who already came inside has to hold her hand and pat her head and say nice things to her, and we'll give her sweets and shots of schnapps when she asks. And we'll only use her butthole after convincing her it's ok.
>converting away from Jurgenism
Reminder that you're an idiot.
Did seriously no one remember the scene where Axmann is meeting that mysterious person, and one of them says "when you contacted me, I thought it was a joke at first"? He switched sides again at the last minute, as is Axmann's way.
Because you're an idiot.
It's better than that, Gretel isn't even likeable in the VNs till after Op Neptune or so.
Did you get this off MAL?
The BETA came to Earth in 1973. They landed in Kashgar.
Thank you based Beato-san anon for laying it down on these retards!
I dunno mang, they're pretty cool imo.
Plus they give off a nice hint of what lies beneath.
>Stop sending people to kill me. We've already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle. If you don't stop sending killers, I'll send one to Moscow, and I won't have to send a second.
>— Josip Broz Tito
Absolutely Magnificent Bastard.
Except even a kind and consensual train would never happen because she only has eyes for one person.
Spare a moment for poor Katia. By 1985 she'll have forgotten her own names, and will only respond to Lise.
>people already forgetting
Fucking hurts, it does.
Well they certainly have some effect.
I know I haven't forgotten those big vietnamese titties.
Farka didn't really feel too much after Annette got to the gooey center of her MiG. Beatrix on the other hand, spends a couple of minutes wheezing, coughing up blood, and traumatizing Theo over the voice coms.
We'll let Theo come inside first and give him exclusive mouth-kissing privileges.
The question is, who would win in the end.
There we go.
Well we don't know for sure that last girl was Farka.
I'd take this qt myself.
Why are all the werewolves so cute?
This is what happens when you fail to protect your waifu's smile, and don't impregnate her before they kill you.
Thanks Jurgen, you're a real human bean.
Can Beato-san and I come to your wedding?
I'm sure there's enough pieces of her to go around for all of you.
I'm not going to touch Stalin's only living relative with a ten foot boathook!
>she even kinda looks like the female version of him. Super gross.
I never saw this one before. Good catch anon.
Killing best girl, its a pretty serious crime.
It just occurred to me the character Farkas is literally a werewolf in Skyrim. Also, "Farka" and "Farkas" would both mean wolf.
You can really tell the animators loved Lise.
>tfw my boner rises in sync with her smile broadening
If we go by LN I think, all of them.
I recall something being said about Theo gunning them all down after they surrender and get out of their TSFs.
He's not exactly a noble hero, even if he is a hero by the end of the story. Don't forget, at the beginning, he's so paranoid and hateful that he's 1/2 responsible for getting a team member killed (hoping that the other one would get killed because her PTSD was annoying), and that the first thought of seeing Katia after thinking of Lise, was how to kill her without making it look like he did it. And that's before he later thinks of "accidentally" abandoning her on the battlefield so her death will look like a normal casualty, and whatever she's involved in won't drag him along.
Maybe it's like the Romanian Securitate, orphan only policy? Or maybe it's just Bea has a good eye for picking skilled pilots who happen to be beauties too.
He only doesn't "feel" evil if you have the understanding of subtlety of a snail.
I want to marry Lise after convincing her that maybe she and Theo have grown too far apart for a romantic relationship to really work out and should take a break then work on rebuilding their fraternal relationship once they're both in a better place emotionally.
>Maybe it's like the Romanian Securitate, orphan only policy? Or maybe it's just Bea has a good eye for picking skilled pilots who happen to be beauties too
Not the whole Securitae, it was just the bodyguards of Ceausescu
I'd just get them back together, her smile is like a 300W bulb to the face when she's with him and she's the best when she's happy.
I'll take the other lovely ladies that aren't dead.
basically she charges the666 alone to save Lise, almost kills them, Theo manages to disable them, then Anett goes into berserker rage and starts mashing her with her mecha sword while Farka is screaming and begging for mercy.
She ends up bisected, Anett gets PTSD from seeing her remainns and becomes an inconsolable mess.
thats what i heard at least
If Lise survived there is absolutely no way Theo would have let her go.
I don't like you anymore Stalker. Fuck you.
Fuck you again. Pham is not something so common as to just...grow again.
Sometimes, a special lily can only ever grow because of the season, of the rain, of the moon, of the soil it was nourished in. You can plant the same species seed, and it may even look like the flower from before, BUT IT IS NOT THE SAME.
IT NEVER IS THE SAME.
Lise's route has the highest chance of having a happy ending. Both Iris and Katia are willing to die for their ideals, as is Beatrix, so the person who'll die tragically in Lise's route will be Beatrix.
>You will never fix Beatrix
Why even live?
>tfw no Beato route
I wouldn't even mind if she dies in her route, if it was cute and heartwarming enough.
I'd give my collection of German marks for a proper picture of Katia and Lise hugging a sleeping Theo from both sides, one in front around his chest and the other behind above his waist, nothing sexual about it.
Now that's the cutest thing ever.
>Eberbach-kun, if you untie me now, I promise I won't be too rough when I rip your manhood off.
>Lise-chan, how many times have I told you not to say that sort of thing. Your onii-chan loves you dearly. He won't ever let you get hurt again.
>I don't even look like her. LET ME GO!
>Nonsense, Lise-chan. You'll even have you old hair color back once the dye comes in.
Katias great, but I can think of someone whose a little more in need of loving.
Don't be silly, anon. Both of them are in need of it.
At the same time.
Everyone knows that one, anon.
Well Lise would probably be willing to die for Theo so there's that chance of her sacrificing herself for Theo in her route.
This is the correct answer, the Imouto Alliance need to be united against any outside invaders threating to claim Theo.
I'll cheat and get him to fall in love with Ursula first. I wouldn't go into this kind of an operation without support.
Lise's a little sister, she get free pass; but honestly, anime Beatrix is just comically evil with no redeeming quality in my eyes - I wouldn't hate her if she some sign of care or connection to her subordinates like the LN version of her, anime Lise fucked up a lot of things and there's a few things I don't like about her but she got an excuse of being mindbroken by the Stasi and Theo making the symptom worse with his talk of Iris in front of her.
>Come on, Katia-chan. If you don't suck it to the base then Onii-chan won't feel good
>Anett-san aswell, you don't have to lick that fast...fufufu
>I...I know alright... nn...
Right to left.
So one thing that's ridiculous in the anime is that they didn't change Lise from being a First LT. She's basically the same rank as Pham and Walter and would be leading a bunch of 2LTs under her like them. Apparently, in the LN, she was assigned over Farka and the others because of her rank (hence why she was given the important task of guarding the 666th). Why then does the anime flip flop and make all the other stasi treat her with disrespect in episode 10?
I want to teach Beatrix how to golf so she has a constructive way to express her love of crushing balls!
VN Beatrix is absolutely sex and makes the anime one look/sound like an old hag.
What happened? She sounds so playful compared to her anime version.