More spoilers coming
Guess I'll just post the previous spoilers.
It was seven years ago when Vali was taken in by Azazel.
Vali had been abused by his dad and Rizevim.
Vali didn't retaliate the abuse because if he did his dad would have abused his mother instead.
Vali's dad thought he was special because he was a "Lucifer". But Vali was even more"special".
Hence the abuse to make himself feel better.
The one who told about Vali to Shemhazai to help him was the servant of Vali's dad.
He was most likely killed in doing so.
Vali was stronger than most SG users after a year passed since he was taken in.
He vowed to be stronger than original Lucifer, Rizevim, and Great Red.
He was also looking forward to his future rival: Sekiryuutei.
5 days passed since Trihexa revived.
The top brass of different factions are sitting to watch the horror of Trihexa and discuss the counter measure.
It destroyed the main institute belonging to Grigori and the Heaven (from First Heaven to Sixth Heaven).
Many Angels died in a process (Even ones who had been fighting since long time ago).
Three Seraphs were critically wounded. Most of the Four Great Seraphs were also wounded.
Raphael lost one of his leg. Uriel lost an eye and arm. Even Michael was wounded.
Even two of the leaders of the fallen angel was wounded badly.
The situation was even worse because of the fake Sekiryuuteis and Evil Dragons.
The ones leading them were Apophis and Azi Dahaka.
On the third day of its release it went to Norse world.
Many Gods and ultimate class Devils were dispatched to fight the enemies. Gods mainly from Asura Gods.
On the fifth day Trihexa and co, teleported elsewhere so it couldn't completely destroy Norse world.
Sirzechs who wasn't present in the discussion arrives and reveals the info about Rizevim and Trihexa to the public.
Then Elmenhilde arrives and passes on a info about the secret of Holy Grail which Rizevim didn't know about to Azazel.
Sirzechs and Azazel talks about a certain things like a certain Rating Match they hoped to see but possibly cant now because of a certain thing they must do.
Probably because of Lilith, I still prefer Ophis on her loli form but this one is great too
Maybe she wants to look like a mom for the dragon egg
At this point Elmenhilde has fallen for Issei and basically acts tsundere (not violently) when Azazel so much as brings him up. The current disaster with 666 is worse than the last war between Heaven and the Underworld and the Heavenly Dragons. Azazel mentions to Issei that his powerups can be broken down into titles now. B × B = Balance Breaker
C × C = Cardinal Crimson
D × D = Diabolos Dragon
Ise even asked if its possible for him to gain A×A and E×E power.
And the so-called other world is a place where the species known as E×E (mechanical organism) and the spirits are at war with each other (according to Azi Dahaka). And both sides have a certain God that rules them. Implying that their God is above Great Red "DxD" here.
Kuroka didn't marry Issei she's just one of his "concubines" and that information wasn't given in the EX side story.
Also in the future Vali runs a magicians organization so he probably has no need for Kuroka to be part of his team.
Ophis does not die.
Lilith does not die.
They do not merge.
No regular characters die. But leaders of many factions seals themselves with Trihexa to stop the world from being destroyed
So pretty much...
Sirzechs and his peerage (minus Grayfia)
Serafall and her peerage (minus her Queen)
Falbium and his peerage (minus his Queen)
Michael and his brave saints (minus Irina)
Raphael and his brave saints (minus his Ace)
Uriel and his brave Saints (minus his Ace)
From the Norse faction it was Odin and 6 other Gods
From the Greek faction it was Zeus and 10 other Gods
From the Hindu faction it was Brahma, Vishnu and 7 other Gods.
And other Gods from other factions too.
There's a lot of confusion going around as to if they actually died, and Ishibumi likely won't explain or elaborate for a very very long time, or maybe it's one of those plot points where an author leaves it up for the reader to decide. All we know is based off EX is that even 30 years in the future they aren't back.
Ise was sent to the hospital in the Lilith, the capital city of Underworld (Devil's side).
Everyone was worried about him since all of his organs except his heart stopped functioning.
So Azazel made this crazy theory to cure him and it worked.
Azazel made the doctors collect breast milk from mummies and collected so much that it filled a tub.
By miking those milks with several Phoenix Tears, Ise went inside and recovered.
Everyone was so happy but Ise's parents were embarrassed that their son had to recover in such a way.
Even Kiba and the doctors were astonished.
When Ise woke up he changed and so did his world.....
That's because.....he couldn't say the word "breasts" in any form nor can he even see them due to the blurs.
The only breast without a blur was Koneko's.
When Rias hugged him it brought great pain to his body. When he thinks about breasts it brought great pain to his body.
And when the Oppai Dragon song (with additional improved lyrics) made him cough blood. So the song pretty much became a toxic poison for Ise.
Ise wakes up two hours after that.
Azazel tells him he shouldn't use the DxD power anymore or it would either kill him or break him.
This is the part where he talks about BxB, CxC, and DxD mentioned before.
Azazel apologizes to Ise's parents but they are happy that Azazel trained him to become a man.
Azazel then leaves the room with Rias, Akeno, Gasper, Rossweisse, and Kiba.
They meet Slash Dog's group. Akeno reunites with her cousin Suzaku who is the Head of the Himejima clan. She's in her twenties.
Valerie (the girl with Holy Grail) is also there.
Slash Dog and co will be fighting in the frontline along with them.
Then Vali and his team arrives. The final Longinus possessor who belongs to Slash Dog's group hugs Vali.
Vali blushed in front of everyone for the first time so it shocked the Gremory group. Though Slash Dog team and Vali team were smirking seeing it.
Her name is Lavinia. The possessor of Absolute Demise. She's a blonde hair blue eyes beauty in her mid twenties.
She is a magician who belongs to Mephisto's organisation and is her secretary.
Azazel talks about a plan to stop Trihexa's movement by retrieving Valerie's Holy Grail.
By combing the Holy Grail with the Holy Cross and another holy relic given to them by Elmenhilde.
Then a man approaches them to tell them that Trihexa had made its movement once again.
But this time it split in 6 destinations. Trihexa has 7 heads and that's the number of bodies it could split into.
4 of them went to attack another mythology. And 2 of them went to attack the human world. The two locations being attacked in the human world are Europe and sea of Japan.
>forget to spoiler it
The two Trihexa in the human world is accompanied by Azi Dahaka and Apohis respectively (also by evil dragons + fake sekiryuutei).
Slash Dog got an information that Apophis who is with the Trihexa in Japan has the Holy Grail which the DxD must retrieve.
But they still split into two groups. One group would consist of most of DxD forces + other forces. They would be fighting the enemy force in Japan.
The other group consists of Vali team + Slash team would be heading to Europe to counter the enemy force (+ forces of other mythology).
Rias asks about where Sona and Sairaorg are. They find out that they are fending of the rebellions at the Bael territory.
Why the fuck are there no Sairaorg cards yet?
Regarding the ExE world. In the afterword Ishibumi said Highschool DxD wont cover that part. So most likely in his new series in the future. Rizevim already told about the existence of the'r world to ExE world and Ajuka predicts that ExE would probably contact them (whether its invasion or not) in 30 years.
It also talked about the World Rating Game tournament. And Vali telling Ise that he wants to fight Ise's team (not the Gremory group led by Rias but Ise's own team) as his rival. And Vali suggested that Ise shouldn't limit his view on making his team with just Evil Pieces and that he could form a group outside it like Vali's team. Well, the very few remaining top brass suggested to promote Ise to a High class Devil. So we will most likely find out about Ise's potential class change in volume 22.
As most people expect, Indra is likely the antagonist for the final arc, and Issei's future as a high class devil + the tournament + ExE is for the sequel.
I'm pretty sure he's trying to get rid of this habit.
Even Issei barely has any cards and he's the MC so don't be too surprised about that.
It seems like Shiva will be the good guy who will side with Devil's side. Instead, Indra is indeed the threat (according to the epilogue of v21).
And also according to Azazel there are 3 trends for the Balance Breaker.
1. The Crest-side which includes the sub-species, the enhancement, and a evolution of a Balance Breaker. Majority of the people belong in this category.
2. The Abyss-side which requires the possessor to research and know their own SG even further the full aspect and kind of becomes ones with their SG. (such as Vali and Slash Dog).
3. The IX-side which doesn't belong to any of the two group above and is more of a evolution due to a sudden abnormal phenomenon. (Includes people like Gremory and Sitri group SG-users and those around Ise due to his influence)
Though Ise, Gasper, and Saji is a IX-side but also has went into Abyss-side too.
This chapter is written from Magdaran's perspective.
Magdaran is a new character and he is Sairaorg's brother.
He went to check the situation due to an attack. Though he doesn't know why the enemies were attacking Bael.
But he guessed it might be due to the shadow behind the Rating Game and the King piece.
He was currently in charge as the Head of Bael were absent and so was Sairaorg.
He encounters Saji on his way who was in his BB-mode.
Magdaran reflects on his family situation.
------His father who doesn't give a shit about his wives and sons.
He only cares about his reputation and the worthiness of his clan. He kicked Sairaorg away from his clan due to Sairaorg not being born with PoD.
Magdaran wasn't gifted but was born with PoD so the Head of Bael made him go through hard training and studies. He had love and interest in plants and such.
He was raised to have a grudge against Rias and Sirzechs who had exceptional talent at using PoD.
One day Sairaorg returned take his position as the next Head back and defeated Magdaran with ease.
His father ignored him even more from then. So did his mother who only cared about being the wife of the Head of Bael. She also held a grudge against Sairaorg for the humiliation.
Even during supper the four of them never exchange words and his mother was usually the first one to leave.
His father was quite incompetent as he always asked the advice from the previous Head of Bael and the first Head of Bael.
He would hear other children from other High-class clan talk lively about how they spend their time with their family such as vacation and such.
He didn't get to do those things. But only Sairaorg actually spoke to him and was friendly with him.
Since he was knowledgeable about plants he was able to revive a extinct flower. The flower has a color of purple which is the color of Bael.
He also grew rare apples. Even though those achievements were excellent, his clan never approved him or recognized him.
Only Sairaorg did. He helped his young brother's product go outside their territory to be recognized.
Then he focuses back on his current situation.---------
As he progress through his castle he finds his badly wounded Queen (male).
As he takes care of his Queen, an enemy approaches him.
The man remarks how noble of him to be concerned about his Queen.
The mysterious man is Bedeze Abaddon who is ranked 3rd in Rating Game.
He came to kill the Head of Bael so he could use that to convince his fans since his his secret about his "King" piece is now known to the world.
By killing the head of Baal, he would be able to make himself like an victim and place the blame on Bael who is pretty much involved in all kind of secret and conspiracy.
Magdaran asks Saji about the other Sitri members. Saji tells him that they are fighting mysterious masked people that are actually Bedeze's servants. And Sairaorg and his group should be arriving soon.
Bedeze then asks Saji if their Master is planning to join RG in the future. Saji says Yes to his question.
Bedeze then tells Saji that there are always Monsters for each generations. And for Bedeze that was Diehauser whom Bedeze cant beat no matter what.
Hence the reason for using the King-Piece which could fill in the gap between their strength.
Just like Diehauser is on a whole different level to Bedeze, Bedeze tells Saji that for Saji and his generations that would be Ise (and Rias who has him in her group).
The same would apply for Sirzechs and Ajuka who are on different power level to their generations.
(Then it mentions about conspiracy and dark trades used between nobles during RG. For example losing on purpose to give credits to others. For example how Riser lost on purpose for 2 of his matches)
So Bedeze wants to convince his fans by killing the Bael that is the root of all conspiracy (according to him).
Bedeze tries to convince Saji to assist him in killing Bael though he rejects his words.
Bedeze then starts insulting Ise about how he looks like a clown by being an Oppai Dragon is being used by the higher-ups for their own benefits.
Saji gets pissed at Bedeze for saying such things and retaliates by saying how Ise had always been risking his life to protect everyone for the sake of the Underworld and blah blah blah.
They engage in a battle. Saji's move gets countered by Bedeze's hole (cant be bothered going too much detail on this battle....).
He gets defeated easily. Before finishing Saji off, Sairaorg comes to the rescue.
Sairaorg is already wearing his BB armor.
Sairaorg asks Bedeze to withdraw and asks him not to throw his pride away as the 3rd rank of RG.
Sairaorg engages in battle. Bedeze uses his holes and starts countering Sairaorg's attacks (his hole can even counter punches etc)
(Fast forwarding the battle since its pretty much Sairaorg getting owned.)
Then Bedeze gives an offer to Sairaorg. He says he will ask the elder to give the King piece to Sairaorg so he can get stronger.
Sairaorg declines and he feels insulted. Bedeze used the King piece in order to cover up his lack of talent. Sairaorg on other hand used training as method to become stronger.
Sairaorg says not just him, but even Ise and Saji knowns gaining a strength without effort has no value blah blah blah.
Saji cries to his words. Sairaorg also tells Magdaran that everything will be okay.
Magdaran then starts remembering how he tried to interfere with Sairaorg's work and such in the past. Sairaorg knew what Magdaran did, but always stayed silent since Sairaorg also felt bad for stealing the spot of the heir from his brother.
Then Magdaran starts remembering more about how kind Sairaorg was and how he had once saved his life when they were young.
Magdaran cries out his brother's name and apologies for his past doings.
Then Sairaorg tells him that he would show another form of "destruction".
He uses BREAKDOWN THE BEAST.
The new form has a color of both gold and purple.
Sairaorg starts coughing blood due to using this mode.
But he easily "breaks" Bedeze's holes with his punch. Sairaorg has reached a level where he could damage those with the strength of a Maou.
After few seconds, the one kneeing on the ground was Bedeze.
Bedeze then tries to run away, but Saji stops him with his black tentacles.
Then Sairaorg knocks him out.
Then a new Devil appears. A beautiful female Devil who has a horn growing out from her head.
She's the 2nd Rank in RG. Roygun Belphegor.
She also used a King Piece, but unlike Bedeze she has no plans on attacking Baal.
Instead she came to stop Bedeze. Despite using a King Piece, she has so much love for Rating Game.
She then takes Bedeze with her.
Then one of the guards appears. He informs Sairaorg and others that Trihexa has appeared in Europe and sea of Japan.
Ophis grew her body to heal Issei of his problems at the end of the volume. Dunno if it's permanent or not, but at least got loli ponytail Lilith still.
It seems that Issei and Vali are officially recognized as Super Devil status or getting close to it by the end.
Vali vs Azi Dahaka.
Azi Dahaka has reached the same power level as that of Two Heavenly Dragons just like Apohis and Crom Cruach. Vali becomes a True Lucifer where his armor becomes silver + black due to Ophis's help (just like the time with Ise in volume 20). His form is also called Diabolos Dragon (DxD). He gains twelve wings of Lucifer in that form. It was a close match due to time restriction but Vali manages to defeat Azi Dahaka. Vali uses his own version of Longinus Smasher called Satan Lucifer Smasher and Albion's lost technique (a poison technique which could kill anyone apart from Ophis, GR, and Ddraig).
Ise vs Apophis.
Ise initially tried to fight him without using his new form. Though his CxC wasn't strong enough to take Apophis. So he changes into DxD fairly quickly and defeats him by using Infinity Blaster; his new Longinus Smasher.
Issei and Vali's DxD modes are separated by the versions of them.
Issei's is DxD G.
>Diabolos Dragon God
Vali's is DxD L
>Diabolos Dragon Lucifer
The core of Trihexa appears right in front of Ise after he defeats Apophis. Sirzechs came to help. Sirzechs shows his true form and the two of them fights Trihexa. They were doing pretty well. Ise also used Ddraig's lost technique which is an absolute flamethrower which can turn other beings to ashes (except Ophis, GR, and Albion).
Trihexa's core turned into ash but revives without even a slightest damage. Then Ise's DxD form disappears. But the fight stops there since Sirzechs calls his whole peerage to seal Trihexa (while other leaders seals Trihexa's other body). Sirzechs makes Grayfia fall to the ground since he doesnt want to get her involved. It was quite sad and he couldnt hug her because he was in his true form. So leaving Ise and Grayfia behind Sirzechs, his peerage, and Trihexa is sealed into another dimension (which isn't the dimensional gap).
After Ophis treats Issei at the end, she nerfs his DxD mode so it won't destroy his body again. With training he'll regain the lost power and more.
Magika is a pretty fun read in general. It's very rare that you find a straight up battle harem where the MC's acknowledge that they have a harem and roll with it. If there are any others please tell me.
Kazuki was a bit against it at first though. Although that was for less than a quarter of a volume so no problem I suppose. And yeah, it is fun. DxD, Magika, DAL, Antimagic and Blade Dance are the only LN's I've kept up on in like the last year.
>Rizevim's actions now have forever changed the entire world
>Everything from this point on is his fault
>EX and BorN are also his fault
Truly the best villain.
It's worth the read if you're interested in the harem/ecchi aspects or a good MC. It's nothing original.
Just saying, the series doesn't really start coming off into it's own until near the ending of volume 2. Before that it's pretty generic
That's what I like about him, he does it as he needs power. But it's not as if he is doing it just for that, he genuinely loves all his girls.
I should probably mention that Loki is the big bad of Magika and if you're not over BorN... be careful. They even have the same colored hair.
He likes to take over cute girls' bodies, let's say that.
And the very name of Loki has triggered me ever since BorN, but now that this fucker Rizevim is the one behind it, I guess it won't bother me anymore.
On the flipside at least we get Valkyrie tiddies.
this ophis form permanently or just temporary
Compared to Miyama it does look like shit, but what doesn't?
It's just not appealing although that elf chick on the right doesn't look too bad.
>Ise also used Ddraig's lost technique which is an absolute flamethrower which can turn other beings to ashes (except Ophis, GR, and Albion)
Sounds like one hell of a cheat move.
It actually gets better as the series goes on. DxD does have better art though.
I got you man
Does anyone else feel like Elmenhilde is going to end up in Issei's peerage?
Vampires hate everyone else after all so she most likely cut ties with her people.
She'll become ravel 2.0 and start devoting her everything to Issei.
It's probably how Ishibumi is going to move us away from her shitty initial appearance.
They'll probably start vol 22-23 since she's without a doubt going to live with Issei and the girls.
It's how Azazel and Vali roped her in after all.
Issei's life just got harder.
At this point Issei has probably given up all hope of having any free time.
Well, everyone sealed up with 666 might as well be dead since they're not coming back in Highschool DxD and maybe never if we don't get a sequel.
Might as well go and do something unique like having Issei steal a married wife.
DxD is having a crossover event with the Valkyrie Drive game.
I just wish I could find more than these three.
Yeah. I'm surprised there hasn't been one with DAL. Actually, is there even a DAL game aside from the VN's?
It's a shame that Magika has barely any of the lewd moments illustrated. At least miyama has great art style and details.
That's not my point. For the past seven to 8 volumes of DxD, each volume gets like 2-3 illustrations or even 1. Then you have those DX volumes that already had illustrations when they were published in Dragon Magazine.
I was pointing out regardless that I'd take the fewer nicely done ones than more lower quality ones, despite how lazy the fucker is now.
Eh I'm the opposite, if she/he can't take the work load, it would be better if Ishibumi finds someone else. However, considering that DxD is entering the final arc, may not be worth the trouble any way.
I do wonder if miyama will do the inevitable sequel. I really want him to, because as seen in pic related, it's very well done. But I don't even get what he's busy with. Nobuna hasn't had a fucking volume in almost a whole year, and there's been two DxD volumes in the last year, and we didn't get many in either. And to top it off we had a colored illustration wasted on Diehauser.
On the 14th of never.
We've still got plenty of time for DxD mode and the milfs, same for Crom. I don't think Azi would've been that interesting looking regardless, and yeah I wish we saw Apophis. 666 hypothetically could be illustrated someday if it came back in some way.
>TNK gets to make the Triana armors and EJOD
>TNK gets to design Siegfried, Heracles and Leo
I was thinking about that actually. Remember how the anime changed where Riser fought Issei in season 1? That place with the red sky? That's also where Sairaorg fought Zephy in BorN. Maybe that's the Agreas stadium where they fight in volume 10, because there were empty stands in the background.
This will never, ever happen. Issei is way too nice to steal his brother-in-law's wife, and he already has more than enough girls. It would be a huge hit to Issei's personality to have him do that.
Sadly I can barely find any, and they're from Twitter.
I got you my nepper, don't have all of them but at least a few
Nah, you know what happens when an ancient evil is sealed instead of killed. Maybe 200 years later when Issei has solved all major problems in the world he would team up with his friends to remove the seal and beat 666.
At least NTR route is now fully open.
At least Sona is still around. And apparently very close, judging by EX.
According to EX she's still rotting in that seal with 666.
Ishibumi done fucked up.
Since Ishibumi went out of his way NOT to seal her up he must have some plans for her.
Did people seriously forget it was established looooooooooooooooooong ago Ophis can take on literally any form she wants? For fucks sake Azazel mentioned like 3 times that prior to the series she was an old man
Well yeah he does, but isn't their relationship more like a "cool big brother"/"fun uncle"? Of course he wouldn't be any happy if both of his parents sealed themselves to save the world without even saying goodbye and of course Issei wouldn't be much of help to him at that point
>You can't refute Milicas fucking loves Issei and would be better off with a group of people near his own age.
I think Issei and the girls could do a good job raising Milicas if they had to, but he's better off with his mother in his own home than he would be at Issei's house. For starters there's way too much lewd stuff going on for a young boy to see, they are all still quite young themselves to be raising a kid, and they are all going to be incredibly busy with their own stuff.
Don't remember, what i do remember is that there's 7 maou's in the underworld.
i forgot that Milicas is a super devil too.
So Issei, Ajuka, Vali, Milicas, Gasper and possibly Sairaorg are super devils.
I don't remember who exactly was confirmed to be a Maou.
Asia's Balance Breaker is called Twilight Saint Affection.
I'm interested in Cao Cao and Dulio's. Guess we wait for more spoilers.
Miyama has been fucking up for a while now it's nothing to be surprised about.
I had zero expectations for the illustrations and that's exactly what i got.
Adult Ophis is okay i guess but there were actual scenes that needed to be illustrated and none of them were.
No. They're basically steroids. And seeing as the world rating game is eventually gonna happen, we can assume that they'll be fighting against others who have them too. Otherwise without that power-up they wouldn't be that much of a challenge.
So pompous high class filth that don't lift a finger to protect the underworld get them.
But a teenager that died for the underworld and keeps putting his life on the line and is called THE hero of the underworld doesn't.
Well despite the fact of them being illegal, they probably have a negative side effect on the body. Not like he needs it anyways, look at how broken the dude is now.
If you can help the hero of your people in anyway you should do so because some day he might not be strong enough.
And since they're supposed to be old and wise they should know what kind of dangers could be ahead.
But no, let's not help the heroes that stand against it let's do nothing to help them.
For that matter aren't they ashamed sending children to fight terrorist? What the fuck is wrong with them!
>aren't they ashamed sending children to fight
To be fair, these "children" have god killing weapons, hax abilities and one of them is dragon jesus.
>And since they're supposed to be old and wise
Where did you get this from? from the start of series the high devils and specially the heads of the pillars(asides from a couple) have all been portrait as dumb power hungry politicians, its the reason why Sirzechs didnt want Issei to climb up the ranks too fast or else he would get caought in political bullshit from people who dont like the idea of new decils gaining power, even if they work hard for it.
hell look at the fucking Bael family
>Oh you are a fucking super powerful talented fighter, a great leader, and you know when to be diplomatic, thats great but... you dont have our blood line technique so we have to kick you out of the house, even though you are stronger than ALL OF US and could curb stomp us from hell to heaven and back if you actually wanted .
Probably not gonna happen, but i don't care Issei needs milf's.
If this is how he gets one so be it i'm all for it.
Ishibumi has already ruined Serafall she's fucking dead.
So the only ones left are Gabriel, Yasaka, Tiamat.
You can't make Issei all about breasts and not give him fucking milfs!
As far as we know she doesn't have a real form.
So it doesn't matter she can change to whatever she likes if she stays in this adult form it's not that far fetched.
Especially after witnessing the other girls and seeing how much fun they have being in love with Issei.
Since she's prone to copying she might want to try this out as well.
Does anyone know when the next Dx. volume comes out? I would imagine they'd announce either s4 or a new ova with it.
Ravel is best girl.
>we're back in the dark zone with not knowing when anything is coming out again
I didn't miss this feeling.
It's not said Devils can change their appearance it's said they can change their age.
>Female Devils tend to utilize magic in order to appear much younger than their physical age would suggest, which explains why Venelana Gremory looks as if she were the same age as her youngest child, Rias.
>she never gets tired in bed
>issei can never get tired in bed now
People asking for a milf when Ophis can be a loli an teenager and adult and a milf, Issei just has to ask...
Truly best girl
the prerequisite for being a milf is having a kid you donut
people want a bona fide milf
I don't think Issei's girls see any problems with this either.
It'll keep up the spice in the bedroom.
Or he can use it as a sort of reward if they've been good girls.
He needs that leverage they've got too much on him already.
Well technically Ophis has a child remember that dragon egg?
She's probably going to take care of it even after it's hatched.
I'm not against Grayfia wanting some of that dragon D though.
Now that she's a widow and all.
Nobody missed this feeling. We're back to praying every day for a sliver of information.
Their offspring would be so genetically superior it's not even funny.
Issei's kids are the future.
that short story i read with her washing issei's back while naked and drunk says otherwise. mind you this is the same novel where said husband was a massive siscon. anything can happen, it's just matter of if it's done well.
Did Ishibumi forget to give Rose a promotion or something? For the love of god she just sealed 666.
Grayfia has already shown she trusts Issei and likes him as a young man.
In the ordeal with the Jabberwocky and regarding his death and regarding her own brother Euclid.
She has generally shown some mild affection towards him as a brother in law.
Maybe Ishibumi spins something with an Euclid Grayfia conflict where his jealousy towards Issei goes out of control.
But i just really don't see it happening even if Ishibumi has a fetish for married women.
Euclid is Shalba 2.0 anyways. Rizevim is dead which means he's gonna find a way to blame it on Issei.
And I don't think Grayfia will do anything with Issei because of how high risk it would be. Some people would like it but I think even more would dislike it.
>Some people would like it but I think even more would dislike it.
It'll become one of the greatest guilty pleasures in a while. People will deny it, but it's true nonetheless.
that's fair. if i had my way, sirzech wouldn't hae been axed so that grayfia doesn't continue to suffer, she's been threw enough thanks to faggot brother of hers.
that being said you cant ntr a deadman, the people calling it that are overreacting.
Unless Sirzechs somehow left something behind for Issei giving him the okay to do it, or it's confirmed he'll never returned I would feel pretty bad about it happening.
It's pretty much confirmed everyone that sealed themselves with 666 might as well be dead.
Since they've sealed themselves with that thing for a thousand years.
>there are already people claiming to drop dxd if it happens elsewhere
>comparing it to issei x sona crack ship when saji isn't dead and EX already sunk crack ship
i just want the silver MILF to be happy, she deserves a happy ending more then most of the newer haremettes who popped out of nowhere and most people dont give a fuck about.
You mean the side story where she straight up said that she sees issei as a younger brother, and where she jokes about stealing him away just to laugh at how the girls reacted with no hint what so ever about it being a thing she would actually consider?
Saying she would go for issei just because Sirzechs is sealed away (the fucker aint even dead) the man she loved so much that their fucking romance is considered a fairy tale in the underworld, is pretty much saying Grayfia is a slut.
I have no idea why people who "like" her want her to do something so out of character.
Their opinions on the matter has no worth since they're not the fan base that actually buys it.
So i don't know why you'd bring it up since only the sales in Japan matter.
Unless your source is the japanese it doesn't matter.
And the japanese are perverts that would even shame Issei they'd love this.
>this handsome motherfucker hasn't shown up in forever
>Yeah that pic was all the spoiler I need
Also, if anyone can tell me what chapter is the last translated chapter? I'm thinking of scanning the RAWs of the manga (through magazine) starting from ch 50 (which starts the third season) and up...and then praying whoever will translate them.
Actually EX didn't sink the crack ship.
No mentioning if Sona hooked up with anyone.
And the kids mentioned her being a frequent guest at their home.
If anything it flamed the ship on.
So to you the only way for a character to be happy is fucking issei?
Anon I think you have a problem.
>she deserves a happy ending
Seeing her husband´s and hers ideals finally come to pass and see a peaceful underworld led by a new generation of devils who actually want to keep it that way, and seeing her son grow up to be some one she and Sirzechs can be proud of seems like a pretty fucking happy ending, a tad bitter sweet but still pretty good, there is no need to have her jumping on dicks just because
>LOL her husband is dead, she needs to fuck to be happy!!!
the fact that she even joked about something like that while drunk says a lot. so does emphasizing that he's the only one besides her husband to see her naked.
relax anon, i'm not saying she'd jump for issei next volume or some shit. in fact, if it ever were too happen, it would be decades down the line.
Garou is in Sona's peerage who's pretty much irrelevant apart from Saji getting some spotlight.
So don't except to see him any time soon.
If you mean the last translated manga chapter that's on the internet that's chapter 32.
If i remember correctly the group that was translating it dropped it because of not finding a translator for it.
>>comparing it to issei x sona crack ship when saji isn't dead and EX already sunk crack ship
There was never a Sona x Saji relationship anyways, sona killed Saji`s chances a long fucking time ago, and going by EX saji is still stuck in the friendzone and Sona is just running around visiting issei to sit on his lap every other week.
you got all that from me saying saying i want her to be happy? calm you're autism anon. whatever the author decides for grayfia will be fine by me so long that she is happy. if it's with issei, with sirzechs or by herself fine. i'd prefer either or of the two vs being alone for thousands of years but that's just preference.
Ooh yeah, it's hard to keep track of this shit there's just too many characters!
But yeah, Bennia is a cutie and she's also obsessed with the Oppai Dragon.
I can already see her living with Issei and having fangasms with Le Fay.
>the fact that she even joked about something like that while drunk says a lot.
Anon, you do know that teasing some one doesnt mean you actually feel any romantic of physical atraction towards them right?
its pretty normal for older people
specially womento tease younger boys just because they like to see their reactions , it goes against everything we know about her to imply she actually was serious about that and that eventually she would fall for issei seriously.
You can't deny that from the older women Grayfia seems to have the best opinion about Issei.
There has been some interaction and some setup if Ishibumi really wanted to go trough with this.
>Implying japanese don't love all this shit
It's like it's their first day on the internet or some shit.
>vs being alone for thousands of years
So being with her son and family/people she cares for, is now
>being alone for thousands of years
Got it, you cant be happy unless your are fucking some one.
>implying that scene is in anyway normal.
wtf did i just read. so you mean to tell me it's normal for older married women to wash their not-husbands back while drunk using her tits, tease them about taking them away, and telling them that their one of to people to see her naked?
are you an idiot anon?
>You can't deny that from the older women Grayfia seems to have the best opinion about Issei.
All the older DxDs (Venelana, Lafy Phenex, Griselda, Yasaka,etc ) love issei the same way, they all think he is a responsible young devil and they all feel good about him fucking the life out of their daughters.
Grayfia went a step further because of the issues with her brother, issei fit the role of a younger brother and thats why she seems more affectionate towards him.
hell out of the mature DxDs the ones i would expect to fuck issei are Gabriel and Yasaka
>double fluffy threesome with Yasaka and Kunou
who are you to tell me or anyone else what someone should or shouldn't need to be happy. if one decides they want a life partner in their lives to be happy, that's their choice. you may not like it but devaluing that opinion to a need for sex is ridiculous. unless you think everyone who has ever re-married is only doing for the sex you piece of shit.
>wtf did i just read. so you mean to tell me it's normal for older married women to wash their younger brother´s back while drunk using her tits, tease them about taking them away, and telling them that their one of to people to see her naked?
Yes anon, believe it or not outside americlap bathing with your family members and teasing them about shit doesnt mean you want to fuck them.
Also lets ignore an entire series and just focus on a single scene played out in a humorous teaseful way and base our entire understanding of the character on that one scene.
sure that makes sense.
>Yasaka and Kunou threesome
Lets hope with Gabriel leading heaven she gets more involved in the story and gets more interactions with Issei.
No fucking clue where Ishibumi is going to go with Tiamat though.
He keeps hyping us up by not having that first encounter between Issei and Tiamat.
>who are you to tell me my opinion is wrong! your opinion is wrong!!!! why are you trying to force your opinion on to a character when i was already forcing my opinion on them !!!
Oh anon you are loosing your grip there.
also lets not forget its you faggots who pushed the sex thing by going
>Grayfia will get the DxD now!!!
as soon as the spoiler about sirzechs came out, so stop pretending it was ever not about her and issei fucking.
>nah thats not waht i mean!
sure it wasn´t anon, sure it wasn´t.
>bathing with your family members.
except their not family members by blood or even inlaws yet
>ignoring all the other weird shit i just mentioned
>backpeddling by bringing in other aspectics of the series when you claimed nothing could support the idea at all
try making sense before claiming others dont
>Hopefully Tiamat is just a goofball old dude.
Tiamat is female anon, we have known this for a long fucking time.
And the hype also comes because we know that she and Ddraigg have history together, no one is sure what kind but Ddraigg mentions that Tiamat would try to kill issei if they ever met.
The fan theory is that she was Ddraigg`s waifu and that he left her behind to fight Albion and she got mad about it.
the other theory is that the original argument between Albion and Ddraigg that they both forgot about what it was over, was actually over what was better Tiamat´s ass or her tits, which is where all the host for each of them have been fans of asses and tits.
Saji has been shafted so hard throughout the series. You would have expected him to be one of the important guys back in the first few volumes, then slowly he lost all standing in the series to Sairaorg, Cao Cao, Dulio etc.
>I speak from experience
I can garantee you do not, or from VERY limited expirence.
Saying all drunks are more honest about their feelings is a pretty dumb thing to say and the people who usually say it do it because of an old trope that is thrown around in tv, movies, etc.
Funny considering the only people who believe the
>all drunks are honest
are the kind of people who never leave their basement and have never really interacted with drunk people.
>saying all drunks are more honest
>poster never said that
when you are drunk, you loses your sense of inhibitions and are prone to doing and saying things you normally keep tucked in depending on how drunk you are and what type of drunk you are.
while it's true this doesn't apply to all drunks, saying it's usually the case is retarded or worthy of you dogging the poster for it.
Well when he has characters like Kiba, Sairaorg, Vali, etc to be Issei's bro's Saji really seems meh.
So i can understand why he doesn't really get any screen time.
I guess, he's taking this all a bit too seriously.
Only Ishibumi knows since i don't remember it being mentioned anywhere.
You'll have to look at the anime and compare sizes between characters if you really need to know.
If it takes more illustrations wasted on handsome men to get a sequel and a new season, then so be it.
Saiji hasn't really had it that bad. He's definitely Issei's closest friend outside of Rias' peerage, and he's gotten some pretty good spotlight throughout the series.
>that time TNK foreshadowed s3 in s1
Was there really a point in doing this?
And that's even more retarded since it's just speculation.
It's the same speculation shit as Grayfia x Issei except there's some interactions there to present as "proof"
Then don't fucking mention it you fucking twat here you go losing your shit over shipping and then you mention said woman hooking up with random guy.
Since the number of maou probably won't increase until the future, I'm assuming Diehauser and Roygun will become maou. Grayfia could also become Leviathan because if you do recall, she challenged Serafall for the title before in the past.
I don't think we learned where he went after volume 20. Issei said he needed to repent, but he did forgive him and wanted to fight him someday, so maybe him taking over as one of the leaders can be his form of repenting.
I feel sorry if this post is what you consider discourse. I have noted your lack of defense towards the aforementioned redundant statement, and thank you for your contribution.
According to that side story he could control his PoD pretty easily,maybe better than Rias, so I assume he can control it even better in the future and even if he doesn't have the same power as Sirzechs he is he's son so he must be pretty fucking strong
Issei sympathized with him after learning how he was trying to expose the corruption in the underworld which got his cousin killed. It'd be weird to see him not get punished somehow but who knows. Volume 22 will likely cover that.
I don't remember EX ever mentioning Milicas at all.
>“After thirty years, there are six people who become transcendental beings (Super Devils) in the Underworld. Among them are Prince Milicas oji-sama, Lord Ajuka Beelzebub, and Uncle Vali.”
Wait, wasn't it stated that there were 7 maou though? Based off the seven deadly sins or something. That's what the previous translator said.
This volume basically implies it. I can't imagine Kiba ever surpassing Sairaorg.
Indeed he's not mentioned but it's safe to make that assumption since his goal is to be a maou.
And seeing as he got a huge power up this volume myeah.
That's what's in the EX translations all i did was copy.
Lucifer, Beelzebub, Leviathan, Asmodeus, Amon, Belphegor, Belial
Kurenai added that from the current Four Great Maous, only Ajuka Beelzebub is still in position.
Doesn't say who are they we can only assume
Since Sirzechs straight up said Issei and Vali would be good maous, maybe at least one of them does become one. Sairaorg is a given based on his dream, and there's Ajuka still. That leaves a few more.
That's easily explained thanks to continues war and fixing of the aftermath trough being the Oppai Dragon.
He probably also serves as the vanguard for every faction so he has to keep up relations.
Maybe he even has to be the Oppai Dragon for every faction and not just the underworld.
There's plenty of reasons why he could be so busy but yes being a maou could be one of them.
It wasn't mentioned in EX although Ishibumi might be keeping this as a surprise.
No wonder fujos jumped at this shit.
I never before saw a fun fanservice harem series become a complete sausage fest like DxD did.
>the strongest "female" in the series can change her gender at any point
Ishibumi doesn't like having strong women in comparison to guys it seems. Basically every relevant guy is a handsome ass motherfucker.
So now there is a loli Ophis and cowtits Ophis running around?
I guess that's a positive change.
Damn, wanted to start at 50 since it's intermission between New and Born (I have older chapters from 02/2015 to whatever the hell ch 50's at) but shame no translators...like every other harem manga.
If you put it on the internet there might be a chance of someone jumping in.
We've already got several people doing the novel, the DX volumes and the EX side story.
There's about 4-5 translators working on this series so there are people willing to do it.
It's just a matter of time.
It was just a generic damsel in distress arc. Series could go anywhere from there.
Now DxD is in fujo section of LN stores.
Anime even tried to give Rias more focus with original content because LN is nothing but sweaty dudes by this point. Ophis saved LN's for some time but that's it. It's like some fucking Naruto with tits now.
This desu. If it was just Issei and 99% girls it would be super big self insert. That's how most people see LN's regardless, but that's how some are basically designed. See: IS.
That's not the problem. Action is not the problem. The problem is the fact that 90% of the strongest and relevant characters are homoerotic dudes. And that Issei is way too strong compered to the rest of his group.
i want to tie the tip of akenos ponytail onto my dick into a neat little ribbon. when i start fucking her and thrusting it in her head will be under my control and i'll smack her with kisses and neck bites while she asks for more
then we can switch places
Because it's a ""Vali"" volume.
You can't blame them for trying to appeal to 2 different fan bases to ensure the further success of the series?
Also it hasn't been gone for years there's been some every volume it just wasn't enough for you.
Now your just being nitpicky Issei is the MC he's supposed to be nr 1.
There's plenty of strong women Rias and Xenovia stand out amongst them in the main cast.
Let's be honest here you just want breasts shoved down your throat.
Gasper in balor mode could still fuck up Issei if you ask me.
Ishibumi already confirmed that the girls are taking the rest of the covers, so stop getting your panties in a bunch that one of more than 30 likely volumes has a single dude on it, especially when a good portion of the fanbase is female.
>Issei is the MC he's supposed to be nr 1.
Says who? Araragi is not the strongest. Ichika is not the strongest. Touma is not the strongest. Those are LN's that sell many time better than DxD ever did.
Shit, even in SAO there is a girl stronger than MC.
Index of late has been selling about the same as DxD. IS only got popular due to the ability for nips to self insert. Monogatari hardly emphasizes the fights, and don't even bring up SAO. Issei is strong but there's PLENTY of characters stronger than him. And there will be even more now that other worlds have been introduced.
you do realize the only reason issei is the strongest is because literally all the stronger ones just died?
underpowered dense morron
Well gee, it's almost like you're new to series that actually focus on fighting.
Anyways, Index has been a massive hit for years now so no surprise. DxD is up there with DAL and TLR as one of the most popular harems in the last decade. With the ridiculous influx of battle harems since then, I don't get the point in trying to refute the popularity of the series by comparing with sales of something in a different genre.
Riiight, so those expanded erotic moments Ishibumi talked about is definitely talking about the guys, right?
>I don't like X therefore it's bad if used.
Great, thanks for your opinion.
>I'm such a horny man child i can't deal with it unless there's tits and more tits
Great, thanks for your opinion.
>Now DxD is in fujo section of LN stores.
You post the same image over and over again of a single store that you never took.
I've seen the Naruto LN in the 16+ section of stores who just stock shit wherever too. Hell go walk into a bookstore here, you will find shit stocked in random places.
So you're complaining the the villains are not female now? There's more female than male characters in this series. No one complained about this shit prior to this volume which is the one volume that specifically focuses on the guys. See if you still have these half-assed complaints after the next few volumes which go back to focusing on the girls.
There may be more female characters overall, but among the actually important characters almost all are male. The only real exception is not even a real girl but a shape-shifting genderless monster.
Being powerful =/= being important.
Stop acting like this is Naruto or some shit. The important characters are the main characters, not the powerful enemies who are eventually defeated. But if you wanna talk like that, let's talk about how Rossweisse sealed 666, which so happens to be ridiculously strong.
And all those guys are going to go back to secondary characters the next fucking volume.
The main cast consist of Issei and the orc.
Which if i remember had 2 other guys and 6 girls not to mention the other girls living with him.
They're the main cast this is a fighting volume so obviously the fighters are going to get more spotlight.
This is the climax it had no place for TITS.
I didn't know Naruto had oppai dragon, breast goddesses from other worlds, oppai zombies, breast beams and other things. Please tell me more.
>referencing the people who are talking about it
>comparing it to other series they like
You're out of shit to say anon, give it up.
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? (not the other anon)
A good portion of the AS fanbase isn't diehard DxD in the first place. It's just one of many series they follow.
>Rias and Akeno have a panic attack after Grayfia came on to Issei
>suicide after dragon god does
I don't like the way they designed her in S3.
From the start, but it wasn't really bad until the last 3 episodes. Before that they just hashed two volumes together. If you plan to read it, just start from volume 5.
I wouldn't say that. There's good special effects for the powerups and at least the armors aren't CGI'd like most are nowadays. For a battle harem, it has top of the line production value, although that's not particularly impressive anyways.
The anime production is fine now the manga art is seriously fucked up bad.
I'm certain if it had a decent artist this series would be at least twice as popular.
It's one of the things that's seriously dragging the series down.
If I could ever get my hands on the newer chapters, I'd still read it. I wanna see the events of the LN done properly, even if the art is shit.
Maybe they'll fix this fucker's terrible design.
LN Ravel is just too cute and is perfect
Rose is incredibly more lewd in the LN.
>series about devils, demons and dragons
>no loli demongirls
Such a waste.
the art in the manga is just all over the place, it will have a great couple of pages and then turn to shit on the next couple more.
and lets not talk about the Asia/Koneko manga.
>one guy literally threaten to drop the ln
>some other guy wont pick it up until he's sure it wont happen
>it swallowed the thread with responses ranging from "as long as it's done well" to "eww ntr".
>somehow the wiki is talking more about the spoilers and plot potential
She's still great. It's just hard to notice her at times when there's dozens of literal semen demons everywhere.
Adult Koneko Is 10/10
I'm guessing this is another miyama fuck up, but isn't Koneko in that form supposed to be the same size as Kuroka for her tits?
>Mil-tan never became her servant
Fuck you Ishibumi.
I'll have to check again but Issei said something about her being on the same level as Kuroka I think.
Wiki is about info though, unless you meant the comment section.
Also since that SS the idea of Issei fucking Grayfia made me diamonds and now Ishibumi is delivering, I can't complain.
Who doesn't like milfs on younger men?
That shit is instant diamonds yo.
yeah i meant the comment section, even that cesspool was less toxic.
you and me both buddy
apparently those who think dating a widow is stealing/ntr. and yes, that nigga and the others are dead. if the beast doesn't kill him the exhaustion from casting the seal will.
Built for marriage, tender loving and incredibly hard fucking.
>yeah i meant the comment section, even that cesspool was less toxic.
If you think that go to see Raildex Wiki Index(character)'s comment section.
Literally a encyclopedia of shitposting from insecure Kamikotofags
>you and me both buddy
Muh brother of African descent.
Normies with double morals.
I'm not into ntr but the thought of Issei nailing Gray while she screams how better he is than her late husband while she legs lock him begging for a baby making creampie makes me cum with the power of an Infinite Blaster.
>666 is so strong all leaders of all factions must sacrifice themselves to stop it for some time
>GR and Ophis are just as strong
It kind of feels like everything in the series is a joke when their "mascot" is something like this.
>Issei nailing Gray while she screams how better he is than her late husband while she legs lock him begging for a baby making creampie
Seriously stop it anon i can only get so hard.