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DxD Volume 21

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More spoilers coming soon.
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>>138880440
Adult Ophis is 10/10
Curious as to what reason Ishibumi is going to give as to why she took on that form.
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Guess I'll just post the previous spoilers.

Encounter:
It was seven years ago when Vali was taken in by Azazel.
Vali had been abused by his dad and Rizevim.
Vali didn't retaliate the abuse because if he did his dad would have abused his mother instead.
Vali's dad thought he was special because he was a "Lucifer". But Vali was even more"special".
Hence the abuse to make himself feel better.
The one who told about Vali to Shemhazai to help him was the servant of Vali's dad.
He was most likely killed in doing so.
Vali was stronger than most SG users after a year passed since he was taken in.
He vowed to be stronger than original Lucifer, Rizevim, and Great Red.
He was also looking forward to his future rival: Sekiryuutei.
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Mandatory poll for best DxD or DxD's.

http://strawpoll.me/7138260
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Khaos Disaster:
5 days passed since Trihexa revived.
The top brass of different factions are sitting to watch the horror of Trihexa and discuss the counter measure.
It destroyed the main institute belonging to Grigori and the Heaven (from First Heaven to Sixth Heaven).
Many Angels died in a process (Even ones who had been fighting since long time ago).
Three Seraphs were critically wounded. Most of the Four Great Seraphs were also wounded.
Raphael lost one of his leg. Uriel lost an eye and arm. Even Michael was wounded.
Even two of the leaders of the fallen angel was wounded badly.
The situation was even worse because of the fake Sekiryuuteis and Evil Dragons.
The ones leading them were Apophis and Azi Dahaka.
On the third day of its release it went to Norse world.
Many Gods and ultimate class Devils were dispatched to fight the enemies. Gods mainly from Asura Gods.
On the fifth day Trihexa and co, teleported elsewhere so it couldn't completely destroy Norse world.
Sirzechs who wasn't present in the discussion arrives and reveals the info about Rizevim and Trihexa to the public.
Then Elmenhilde arrives and passes on a info about the secret of Holy Grail which Rizevim didn't know about to Azazel.
Sirzechs and Azazel talks about a certain things like a certain Rating Match they hoped to see but possibly cant now because of a certain thing they must do.
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Is Kuroka still part of Vali team after she marries Issei?
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>>138880612
Probably because of Lilith, I still prefer Ophis on her loli form but this one is great too

Maybe she wants to look like a mom for the dragon egg
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At this point Elmenhilde has fallen for Issei and basically acts tsundere (not violently) when Azazel so much as brings him up.

The current disaster with 666 is worse than the last war between Heaven and the Underworld and the Heavenly Dragons.

Azazel mentions to Issei that his powerups can be broken down into titles now.

B × B = Balance Breaker
C × C = Cardinal Crimson
D × D = Diabolos Dragon

Ise even asked if its possible for him to gain A×A and E×E power.


And the so-called other world is a place where the species known as E×E (mechanical organism) and the spirits are at war with each other (according to Azi Dahaka). And both sides have a certain God that rules them. Implying that their God is above Great Red "DxD" here.
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>>138881230
I'd say probably not. We don't know what happens to them in the future, other than Vali leads a group of magicians now.
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>>138881230
Kuroka didn't marry Issei she's just one of his "concubines" and that information wasn't given in the EX side story.
Also in the future Vali runs a magicians organization so he probably has no need for Kuroka to be part of his team.
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I want to _hug_ Ophis
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Ophis does not die.
Lilith does not die.
They do not merge.

No regular characters die. But leaders of many factions seals themselves with Trihexa to stop the world from being destroyed
So pretty much...
Sirzechs and his peerage (minus Grayfia)
Serafall and her peerage (minus her Queen)
Falbium and his peerage (minus his Queen)
Azazel
Michael and his brave saints (minus Irina)
Raphael and his brave saints (minus his Ace)
Uriel and his brave Saints (minus his Ace)
From the Norse faction it was Odin and 6 other Gods
From the Greek faction it was Zeus and 10 other Gods
From the Hindu faction it was Brahma, Vishnu and 7 other Gods.
And other Gods from other factions too.

There's a lot of confusion going around as to if they actually died, and Ishibumi likely won't explain or elaborate for a very very long time, or maybe it's one of those plot points where an author leaves it up for the reader to decide. All we know is based off EX is that even 30 years in the future they aren't back.
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Life.1
Ise was sent to the hospital in the Lilith, the capital city of Underworld (Devil's side).
Everyone was worried about him since all of his organs except his heart stopped functioning.
So Azazel made this crazy theory to cure him and it worked.
Azazel made the doctors collect breast milk from mummies and collected so much that it filled a tub.
By miking those milks with several Phoenix Tears, Ise went inside and recovered.
Everyone was so happy but Ise's parents were embarrassed that their son had to recover in such a way.
Even Kiba and the doctors were astonished.
When Ise woke up he changed and so did his world.....
That's because.....he couldn't say the word "breasts" in any form nor can he even see them due to the blurs.
The only breast without a blur was Koneko's.
When Rias hugged him it brought great pain to his body. When he thinks about breasts it brought great pain to his body.
And when the Oppai Dragon song (with additional improved lyrics) made him cough blood. So the song pretty much became a toxic poison for Ise.
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>>138881546
How about Shiva?
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>>138881692
He probably stayed behind to keep an eye on Indra.
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>>138881663
Issei looks like shit, but i guess that's how you would look after nearly dying fucking AGAIN!
Ishibumi the master at torturing his own creations.
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>>138882075
he should probably try to drop his habit of almost dying every semester
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Ise wakes up two hours after that.
Azazel tells him he shouldn't use the DxD power anymore or it would either kill him or break him.
This is the part where he talks about BxB, CxC, and DxD mentioned before.
Azazel apologizes to Ise's parents but they are happy that Azazel trained him to become a man.
Azazel then leaves the room with Rias, Akeno, Gasper, Rossweisse, and Kiba.
They meet Slash Dog's group. Akeno reunites with her cousin Suzaku who is the Head of the Himejima clan. She's in her twenties.
Valerie (the girl with Holy Grail) is also there.
Slash Dog and co will be fighting in the frontline along with them.
Then Vali and his team arrives. The final Longinus possessor who belongs to Slash Dog's group hugs Vali.
Vali blushed in front of everyone for the first time so it shocked the Gremory group. Though Slash Dog team and Vali team were smirking seeing it.
Her name is Lavinia. The possessor of Absolute Demise. She's a blonde hair blue eyes beauty in her mid twenties.
She is a magician who belongs to Mephisto's organisation and is her secretary.
Azazel talks about a plan to stop Trihexa's movement by retrieving Valerie's Holy Grail.
By combing the Holy Grail with the Holy Cross and another holy relic given to them by Elmenhilde.
Then a man approaches them to tell them that Trihexa had made its movement once again.
But this time it split in 6 destinations. Trihexa has 7 heads and that's the number of bodies it could split into.
4 of them went to attack another mythology. And 2 of them went to attack the human world. The two locations being attacked in the human world are Europe and sea of Japan.
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>>138881284
So Ophis mommy confirmed?
Issei will be the daddy.
That dragon cub is in for a wild ride.
Will it stay with them or go to tannin's dragon territory though?
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>>138882518
>forget to spoiler it
Fuck it.

The two Trihexa in the human world is accompanied by Azi Dahaka and Apohis respectively (also by evil dragons + fake sekiryuutei).
Slash Dog got an information that Apophis who is with the Trihexa in Japan has the Holy Grail which the DxD must retrieve.
But they still split into two groups. One group would consist of most of DxD forces + other forces. They would be fighting the enemy force in Japan.
The other group consists of Vali team + Slash team would be heading to Europe to counter the enemy force (+ forces of other mythology).
Rias asks about where Sona and Sairaorg are. They find out that they are fending of the rebellions at the Bael territory.

Why the fuck are there no Sairaorg cards yet?
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Regarding the ExE world. In the afterword Ishibumi said Highschool DxD wont cover that part. So most likely in his new series in the future. Rizevim already told about the existence of the'r world to ExE world and Ajuka predicts that ExE would probably contact them (whether its invasion or not) in 30 years.
It also talked about the World Rating Game tournament. And Vali telling Ise that he wants to fight Ise's team (not the Gremory group led by Rias but Ise's own team) as his rival. And Vali suggested that Ise shouldn't limit his view on making his team with just Evil Pieces and that he could form a group outside it like Vali's team. Well, the very few remaining top brass suggested to promote Ise to a High class Devil. So we will most likely find out about Ise's potential class change in volume 22.

As most people expect, Indra is likely the antagonist for the final arc, and Issei's future as a high class devil + the tournament + ExE is for the sequel.
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>>138882496
I'm pretty sure he's trying to get rid of this habit.

>>138882657
Even Issei barely has any cards and he's the MC so don't be too surprised about that.
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It seems like Shiva will be the good guy who will side with Devil's side. Instead, Indra is indeed the threat (according to the epilogue of v21).

And also according to Azazel there are 3 trends for the Balance Breaker.

1. The Crest-side which includes the sub-species, the enhancement, and a evolution of a Balance Breaker. Majority of the people belong in this category.

2. The Abyss-side which requires the possessor to research and know their own SG even further the full aspect and kind of becomes ones with their SG. (such as Vali and Slash Dog).

3. The IX-side which doesn't belong to any of the two group above and is more of a evolution due to a sudden abnormal phenomenon. (Includes people like Gremory and Sitri group SG-users and those around Ise due to his influence)

Though Ise, Gasper, and Saji is a IX-side but also has went into Abyss-side too.
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Life Bael

This chapter is written from Magdaran's perspective.
Magdaran is a new character and he is Sairaorg's brother.
He went to check the situation due to an attack. Though he doesn't know why the enemies were attacking Bael.
But he guessed it might be due to the shadow behind the Rating Game and the King piece.
He was currently in charge as the Head of Bael were absent and so was Sairaorg.
He encounters Saji on his way who was in his BB-mode.
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Magdaran reflects on his family situation.

------His father who doesn't give a shit about his wives and sons.
He only cares about his reputation and the worthiness of his clan. He kicked Sairaorg away from his clan due to Sairaorg not being born with PoD.
Magdaran wasn't gifted but was born with PoD so the Head of Bael made him go through hard training and studies. He had love and interest in plants and such.
He was raised to have a grudge against Rias and Sirzechs who had exceptional talent at using PoD.
One day Sairaorg returned take his position as the next Head back and defeated Magdaran with ease.
His father ignored him even more from then. So did his mother who only cared about being the wife of the Head of Bael. She also held a grudge against Sairaorg for the humiliation.
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Even during supper the four of them never exchange words and his mother was usually the first one to leave.
His father was quite incompetent as he always asked the advice from the previous Head of Bael and the first Head of Bael.
He would hear other children from other High-class clan talk lively about how they spend their time with their family such as vacation and such.
He didn't get to do those things. But only Sairaorg actually spoke to him and was friendly with him.
Since he was knowledgeable about plants he was able to revive a extinct flower. The flower has a color of purple which is the color of Bael.
He also grew rare apples. Even though those achievements were excellent, his clan never approved him or recognized him.
Only Sairaorg did. He helped his young brother's product go outside their territory to be recognized.
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Then he focuses back on his current situation.---------

As he progress through his castle he finds his badly wounded Queen (male).
As he takes care of his Queen, an enemy approaches him.
The man remarks how noble of him to be concerned about his Queen.
The mysterious man is Bedeze Abaddon who is ranked 3rd in Rating Game.
He came to kill the Head of Bael so he could use that to convince his fans since his his secret about his "King" piece is now known to the world.
By killing the head of Baal, he would be able to make himself like an victim and place the blame on Bael who is pretty much involved in all kind of secret and conspiracy.
Magdaran asks Saji about the other Sitri members. Saji tells him that they are fighting mysterious masked people that are actually Bedeze's servants. And Sairaorg and his group should be arriving soon.
Bedeze then asks Saji if their Master is planning to join RG in the future. Saji says Yes to his question.
Bedeze then tells Saji that there are always Monsters for each generations. And for Bedeze that was Diehauser whom Bedeze cant beat no matter what.
Hence the reason for using the King-Piece which could fill in the gap between their strength.
Just like Diehauser is on a whole different level to Bedeze, Bedeze tells Saji that for Saji and his generations that would be Ise (and Rias who has him in her group).
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The same would apply for Sirzechs and Ajuka who are on different power level to their generations.
(Then it mentions about conspiracy and dark trades used between nobles during RG. For example losing on purpose to give credits to others. For example how Riser lost on purpose for 2 of his matches)
So Bedeze wants to convince his fans by killing the Bael that is the root of all conspiracy (according to him).
Bedeze tries to convince Saji to assist him in killing Bael though he rejects his words.
Bedeze then starts insulting Ise about how he looks like a clown by being an Oppai Dragon is being used by the higher-ups for their own benefits.
Saji gets pissed at Bedeze for saying such things and retaliates by saying how Ise had always been risking his life to protect everyone for the sake of the Underworld and blah blah blah.
They engage in a battle. Saji's move gets countered by Bedeze's hole (cant be bothered going too much detail on this battle....).
He gets defeated easily. Before finishing Saji off, Sairaorg comes to the rescue.
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>>138880440
>Ophis
>Not a loli
WHY.
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Sairaorg is already wearing his BB armor.
Sairaorg asks Bedeze to withdraw and asks him not to throw his pride away as the 3rd rank of RG.
Sairaorg engages in battle. Bedeze uses his holes and starts countering Sairaorg's attacks (his hole can even counter punches etc)
(Fast forwarding the battle since its pretty much Sairaorg getting owned.)
Then Bedeze gives an offer to Sairaorg. He says he will ask the elder to give the King piece to Sairaorg so he can get stronger.
Sairaorg declines and he feels insulted. Bedeze used the King piece in order to cover up his lack of talent. Sairaorg on other hand used training as method to become stronger.
Sairaorg says not just him, but even Ise and Saji knowns gaining a strength without effort has no value blah blah blah.
Saji cries to his words. Sairaorg also tells Magdaran that everything will be okay.
Magdaran then starts remembering how he tried to interfere with Sairaorg's work and such in the past. Sairaorg knew what Magdaran did, but always stayed silent since Sairaorg also felt bad for stealing the spot of the heir from his brother.
Then Magdaran starts remembering more about how kind Sairaorg was and how he had once saved his life when they were young.
Magdaran cries out his brother's name and apologies for his past doings.
Then Sairaorg tells him that he would show another form of "destruction".
He uses BREAKDOWN THE BEAST.
The new form has a color of both gold and purple.
Sairaorg starts coughing blood due to using this mode.
But he easily "breaks" Bedeze's holes with his punch. Sairaorg has reached a level where he could damage those with the strength of a Maou.
After few seconds, the one kneeing on the ground was Bedeze.
Bedeze then tries to run away, but Saji stops him with his black tentacles.
Then Sairaorg knocks him out.

Then a new Devil appears. A beautiful female Devil who has a horn growing out from her head.
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>>138883477
Because she's going to join the harem.
Also this is a series centered around Issei's love for breasts.
You had to see this coming.
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>>138883554
If he doesn't embrace lolis by the end of this story I'll be disappointed.
Same for bromances.
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>>138883554
My hate for Issei grows. Seriously, he's a faggot compared to the likes of godly Kazuki.
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She's the 2nd Rank in RG. Roygun Belphegor.
She also used a King Piece, but unlike Bedeze she has no plans on attacking Baal.
Instead she came to stop Bedeze. Despite using a King Piece, she has so much love for Rating Game.
She then takes Bedeze with her.
Then one of the guards appears. He informs Sairaorg and others that Trihexa has appeared in Europe and sea of Japan.

Ophis grew her body to heal Issei of his problems at the end of the volume. Dunno if it's permanent or not, but at least got loli ponytail Lilith still.

It seems that Issei and Vali are officially recognized as Super Devil status or getting close to it by the end.
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Vali vs Azi Dahaka.
Azi Dahaka has reached the same power level as that of Two Heavenly Dragons just like Apohis and Crom Cruach. Vali becomes a True Lucifer where his armor becomes silver + black due to Ophis's help (just like the time with Ise in volume 20). His form is also called Diabolos Dragon (DxD). He gains twelve wings of Lucifer in that form. It was a close match due to time restriction but Vali manages to defeat Azi Dahaka. Vali uses his own version of Longinus Smasher called Satan Lucifer Smasher and Albion's lost technique (a poison technique which could kill anyone apart from Ophis, GR, and Ddraig).

Ise vs Apophis.
Ise initially tried to fight him without using his new form. Though his CxC wasn't strong enough to take Apophis. So he changes into DxD fairly quickly and defeats him by using Infinity Blaster; his new Longinus Smasher.

Issei and Vali's DxD modes are separated by the versions of them.

Issei's is DxD G.
>Diabolos Dragon God

Vali's is DxD L
>Diabolos Dragon Lucifer
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The core of Trihexa appears right in front of Ise after he defeats Apophis. Sirzechs came to help. Sirzechs shows his true form and the two of them fights Trihexa. They were doing pretty well. Ise also used Ddraig's lost technique which is an absolute flamethrower which can turn other beings to ashes (except Ophis, GR, and Albion).
Trihexa's core turned into ash but revives without even a slightest damage. Then Ise's DxD form disappears. But the fight stops there since Sirzechs calls his whole peerage to seal Trihexa (while other leaders seals Trihexa's other body). Sirzechs makes Grayfia fall to the ground since he doesnt want to get her involved. It was quite sad and he couldnt hug her because he was in his true form. So leaving Ise and Grayfia behind Sirzechs, his peerage, and Trihexa is sealed into another dimension (which isn't the dimensional gap).

After Ophis treats Issei at the end, she nerfs his DxD mode so it won't destroy his body again. With training he'll regain the lost power and more.
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>>138883746
DxD is a gag battle harem in the end. Magika is basically entering smut territory. Not fair to compare them really.
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>>138884316
>Shinmai
Wrong serious, dude.
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>>138884391
Wrong series*
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>>138884391
>>138884457
I'm completely retarded. Kazuki's alright, molests elves and dosen't afraid of anything.
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>>138885117
well he's afraid of getting them killed but that makes him an even better character im my opinion
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>>138885588
Why do I have a feeling that Shiva is the next to join his male harem?
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>>138885765
>ohgodno
Is going to be Issei's reply to that.
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>>138884208
Magika is a pretty fun read in general. It's very rare that you find a straight up battle harem where the MC's acknowledge that they have a harem and roll with it. If there are any others please tell me.
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>>138885973
What's Magika's full name?
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>>138885973
Kazuki was a bit against it at first though. Although that was for less than a quarter of a volume so no problem I suppose. And yeah, it is fun. DxD, Magika, DAL, Antimagic and Blade Dance are the only LN's I've kept up on in like the last year.
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>Rizevim's actions now have forever changed the entire world
>Everything from this point on is his fault
>EX and BorN are also his fault

Truly the best villain.
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>>138886069
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Magika_No_Kenshi_To_Shoukan_Maou
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>>138886248
>yet another magical knight academy

Eeeeeehhh
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>>138886389
It's worth the read if you're interested in the harem/ecchi aspects or a good MC. It's nothing original.
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>>138886069
https://bakapervert.wordpress.com/

Just saying, the series doesn't really start coming off into it's own until near the ending of volume 2. Before that it's pretty generic
>>138886110
That's what I like about him, he does it as he needs power. But it's not as if he is doing it just for that, he genuinely loves all his girls.
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>>138886389
I should probably mention that Loki is the big bad of Magika and if you're not over BorN... be careful. They even have the same colored hair.
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>>138886552
It's always fucking Loki. Every time.
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>>138886552
>if you're not over BorN... be careful
I don't know what you mean by that. Is he a good villain in this series, is he not, what is it?
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>>138886868
He likes to take over cute girls' bodies, let's say that.

And the very name of Loki has triggered me ever since BorN, but now that this fucker Rizevim is the one behind it, I guess it won't bother me anymore.
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>>138886552
On the flipside at least we get Valkyrie tiddies.
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>>138887048
Still waiting for mature fox titties.
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>>138886389
SOFT
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>>138888122
This art is shit, like IS illustrator level shit.
Top left is cute though.
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this ophis form permanently or just temporary
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>>138888370
Compared to Miyama it does look like shit, but what doesn't?
It's just not appealing although that elf chick on the right doesn't look too bad.
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>>138888682
We don't know yet.
She went into that form to heal Issei after a fight.
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>>138888888
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>>138884107
>Ise also used Ddraig's lost technique which is an absolute flamethrower which can turn other beings to ashes (except Ophis, GR, and Albion)

Sounds like one hell of a cheat move.
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>>138888370
It actually gets better as the series goes on. DxD does have better art though.
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>>138889288
You have taught me the error of my ways.
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>>138889347
I got you man
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Does anyone else feel like Elmenhilde is going to end up in Issei's peerage?
Vampires hate everyone else after all so she most likely cut ties with her people.
She'll become ravel 2.0 and start devoting her everything to Issei.
It's probably how Ishibumi is going to move us away from her shitty initial appearance.
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>>138890379
>Does anyone else feel like Elmenhilde is going to end up in Issei's peerage?
they have a kid, dude
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>>138880440
>>138880612
>>138881284
>>138883477
>>138884107
>>138888682
Harem time? Please Ishibumi.
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>>138890447
Doesn't confirm her being in his peerage or whatever else.
Just means they procreated.
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>>138890466
Ophis is raising a dragon egg once it hatches it'll probably see her as it's mother.
And trough observation Ophis finds out it needs a father too.
That's where Issei comes in.
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>>138890664
Aunt Lilith shenanigans when?
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>>138891414
They'll probably start vol 22-23 since she's without a doubt going to live with Issei and the girls.
It's how Azazel and Vali roped her in after all.
Issei's life just got harder.
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>>138891537
At this point Issei has probably given up all hope of having any free time.
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>>138888682
She's a dragon god, she can be whatever she wants.
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>>138892747
Except being immune to Samael
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>>138892928
yeah but he's a plot device for the purpose of countering dragons right? he'd probably roflstomp 666 as well
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>>138893138
Not likely, he got a the power to kill them but if they got the first hit he dies.
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>>138893138
666 isn't even a dragon.
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>>138893168
It has a dragon head, that's enough, see Cao Cao only has an eye and the poison fucked him up.
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>>138893223
Issei's flamethrower than incinerates 99% of anything in existence didn't even stop its core from instantly regenerating. I doubt a poison would either.
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>>138893288
yeah but samael is the absolute counter to dragons so I think his poison has a 100% succes rate if he gets the shot in which he will
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>>138893408
But 666 can split its body based on the number of heads it has. It can just split apart from the dragon head.
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>>138893437
question remains, can it change its fundamental constitution? if it can't its still fucked

no use speculating over it though
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>>138884107
Is Ishibumi intentionally fucking Shirzecs?
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>>138894069
Well, in an afterword Ishibumi mentions he loves married women.
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>>138894128
>mfw author is literally making Issei NTR Red Maou
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>>138894214
Well, everyone sealed up with 666 might as well be dead since they're not coming back in Highschool DxD and maybe never if we don't get a sequel.
Might as well go and do something unique like having Issei steal a married wife.
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>>138894402
Even in a sequel they won't. Whether they're dead or not doesn't even matter at this point.
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>>138881546
>Ajuka just lost all his friends
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>>138895882
Where is this from?
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>>138897512
DxD is having a crossover event with the Valkyrie Drive game.
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>>138897575
Awesome, thanks anon.
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>>138897708
I just wish I could find more than these three.
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>>138897575
They've been having cross promotions for awhile haven't they?

>Nepgear
>Senran Kagura
>Ikki tousen
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>>138897840
Yeah. I'm surprised there hasn't been one with DAL. Actually, is there even a DAL game aside from the VN's?
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>>138892928

Only reason that thing really worked was because she was not giving a fuck. She could just obliterate it before it can do anything.
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>>138889288
The drawback to that is that magika's illustrator has a better work rate while Miyama Zero doesn't.
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>>138898276
It's a shame that Magika has barely any of the lewd moments illustrated. At least miyama has great art style and details.
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>>138898483
That's not my point. For the past seven to 8 volumes of DxD, each volume gets like 2-3 illustrations or even 1. Then you have those DX volumes that already had illustrations when they were published in Dragon Magazine.
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>>138898683
I was pointing out regardless that I'd take the fewer nicely done ones than more lower quality ones, despite how lazy the fucker is now.
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>>138898747
Eh I'm the opposite, if she/he can't take the work load, it would be better if Ishibumi finds someone else. However, considering that DxD is entering the final arc, may not be worth the trouble any way.
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>>138898483
>>138898747
Season 2 when Madhouse?
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>>138898874
I do wonder if miyama will do the inevitable sequel. I really want him to, because as seen in pic related, it's very well done. But I don't even get what he's busy with. Nobuna hasn't had a fucking volume in almost a whole year, and there's been two DxD volumes in the last year, and we didn't get many in either. And to top it off we had a colored illustration wasted on Diehauser.

>>138898957
On the 14th of never.
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>>138899011
Just there is so many moments left out

>Triania armor modes
>DxD mode, EDJ mode
>DxD milfs
>Characters like crom cruach, apophis, and Azi
>Trihexia also
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>>138899380
We've still got plenty of time for DxD mode and the milfs, same for Crom. I don't think Azi would've been that interesting looking regardless, and yeah I wish we saw Apophis. 666 hypothetically could be illustrated someday if it came back in some way.
>TNK gets to make the Triana armors and EJOD
>TNK gets to design Siegfried, Heracles and Leo
Oh no
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>>138899553
I just want to see how they animate the Vol.10 rating game.
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>>138900064
I was thinking about that actually. Remember how the anime changed where Riser fought Issei in season 1? That place with the red sky? That's also where Sairaorg fought Zephy in BorN. Maybe that's the Agreas stadium where they fight in volume 10, because there were empty stands in the background.
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>>138894402
>>138894479
I got a weird boner and I'm not even inyo ntr.
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>>138894214
>>138894402
This will never, ever happen. Issei is way too nice to steal his brother-in-law's wife, and he already has more than enough girls. It would be a huge hit to Issei's personality to have him do that.
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>this arc has been going since before s2 even aired
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>>138897840
>DxNep
any source on where I ca

>>138897910
sweet mercy
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>>138901962
Sadly I can barely find any, and they're from Twitter.
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>>138881422
we dont know that for certain. it was never said who specifically married issei in the harem other than the obvious ones and at this point it amounts to nothing but a title
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When's this getting a new season so I don't have to go through a poorly written porn fantasy without the visual stimulation
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>>138889500
Sometimes It's quite hard to resist the urge to fap.
Also volume 11 chapter 4 really had some surprise gore.
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>>138901962
I got you my nepper, don't have all of them but at least a few
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and that's all
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>>138905476
So, is really truth that we are now locked from any chance for best girl to have baby?
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>>138907350
well she's sealed so...yeah
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>>138907350
Nah, you know what happens when an ancient evil is sealed instead of killed. Maybe 200 years later when Issei has solved all major problems in the world he would team up with his friends to remove the seal and beat 666.
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>>138907350
At least NTR route is now fully open.
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>>138907350
At least Sona is still around. And apparently very close, judging by EX.
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>>138907474
I still think Saiji will put it off in the end.
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>>138907350
According to EX she's still rotting in that seal with 666.
Ishibumi done fucked up.

>>138907437
Since Ishibumi went out of his way NOT to seal her up he must have some plans for her.
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>>138907708
Or he just didn't want to be a dick to their kid by essentially killing both parents
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>>138907761
>Implying Milicas wouldn't be better off being raised by Issei and the girls
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>>138907832
Oh fuck no, I haven't read nor cared all that much about EX but I can tell Issei is a shitty parent
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>>138880440
>>138880612
>adult ophis
I clicked this shit becaue I was fucking scared that this was supposed to be ophis but DAMN SHIT
FUCK
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
FUCKING DrOPPED
RUINED
>xD
fuck off
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>>138907919
Only because he doesn't have time to parent which isn't really his fault since he's busy saving the world and stuff. I bet Issei's a great dad when he's actually there.
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>>138907919
Only Ex thought that out of 12 kids.
And he's biased from being a rebellious child that just hates his dad.
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>>138907920
Did people seriously forget it was established looooooooooooooooooong ago Ophis can take on literally any form she wants? For fucks sake Azazel mentioned like 3 times that prior to the series she was an old man
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>>138907920
Orphis has no gender and can look however it wants
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>>138908041
Including Raynare
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>>138907919
You can't refute Milicas fucking loves Issei and would be better off with a group of people near his own age.

>>138908057
She only has the right to be a pile of ashes.
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>>138908091
Well yeah he does, but isn't their relationship more like a "cool big brother"/"fun uncle"? Of course he wouldn't be any happy if both of his parents sealed themselves to save the world without even saying goodbye and of course Issei wouldn't be much of help to him at that point
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>>138908091
>You can't refute Milicas fucking loves Issei and would be better off with a group of people near his own age.
I think Issei and the girls could do a good job raising Milicas if they had to, but he's better off with his mother in his own home than he would be at Issei's house. For starters there's way too much lewd stuff going on for a young boy to see, they are all still quite young themselves to be raising a kid, and they are all going to be incredibly busy with their own stuff.
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>>138892610
He's never going to have time to play his eroge anymore.
THE TORTURE!
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Who are the Super Devils in the future? Issei, Vali, Gasper, Ajuka and who?
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>>138908866
Going off what i've read from V21 Sairaorg might be one of them.
All the super devils weren't revealed in EX.
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>>138908866
>>138908956
Do we have a number?
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>>138909066
Don't remember, what i do remember is that there's 7 maou's in the underworld.
i forgot that Milicas is a super devil too.

So Issei, Ajuka, Vali, Milicas, Gasper and possibly Sairaorg are super devils.

I don't remember who exactly was confirmed to be a Maou.
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Asia's Balance Breaker is called Twilight Saint Affection.
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>>138909900
>Twilight Saint Affection
>Saint Affection
>a loving saint

Spot on for Asia Ishibumi has a knack for naming these.
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>>138910025
I'm interested in Cao Cao and Dulio's. Guess we wait for more spoilers.
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I'm super pissed off we'll never see how 666 looks

It's the one boss that has lived up to the hype. "No, but he is too strong for you" was actually true for once
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>>138910194
Miyama has been fucking up for a while now it's nothing to be surprised about.
I had zero expectations for the illustrations and that's exactly what i got.
Adult Ophis is okay i guess but there were actual scenes that needed to be illustrated and none of them were.
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>>138905559
MY DICK
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>>138883751
So is Issei going to get a King piece or what?
Kind of bull that everyone in the top of the rating games has one since they're so overpowered.
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>>138911059
No. They're basically steroids. And seeing as the world rating game is eventually gonna happen, we can assume that they'll be fighting against others who have them too. Otherwise without that power-up they wouldn't be that much of a challenge.
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>>138911103
So pompous high class filth that don't lift a finger to protect the underworld get them.
But a teenager that died for the underworld and keeps putting his life on the line and is called THE hero of the underworld doesn't.
Sounds fair.
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>>138911288
Well despite the fact of them being illegal, they probably have a negative side effect on the body. Not like he needs it anyways, look at how broken the dude is now.
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>>138911288
Welcome to politics anon.
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>>138911330
If you can help the hero of your people in anyway you should do so because some day he might not be strong enough.
And since they're supposed to be old and wise they should know what kind of dangers could be ahead.
But no, let's not help the heroes that stand against it let's do nothing to help them.
For that matter aren't they ashamed sending children to fight terrorist? What the fuck is wrong with them!
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>>138911834
>aren't they ashamed sending children to fight
To be fair, these "children" have god killing weapons, hax abilities and one of them is dragon jesus.
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>>138881546
Just like Rage of Bahamut end?
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>>138884107
So now Grayfia can join the Isseibowl? Sigh
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>>138912178
Nah, there's no way she's joining. Ophis on the other hand probably just did.
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>>138912226
I rather her be the little sister with lilth being her twin.
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>>138912264
Ophis is a mommy now for the dragon egg.
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>>138911834
>And since they're supposed to be old and wise
Where did you get this from? from the start of series the high devils and specially the heads of the pillars(asides from a couple) have all been portrait as dumb power hungry politicians, its the reason why Sirzechs didnt want Issei to climb up the ranks too fast or else he would get caought in political bullshit from people who dont like the idea of new decils gaining power, even if they work hard for it.

hell look at the fucking Bael family
>Oh you are a fucking super powerful talented fighter, a great leader, and you know when to be diplomatic, thats great but... you dont have our blood line technique so we have to kick you out of the house, even though you are stronger than ALL OF US and could curb stomp us from hell to heaven and back if you actually wanted .
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>>138912178
People who think this is a posibility never actually read the series.
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>>138912178
Probably not gonna happen, but i don't care Issei needs milf's.
If this is how he gets one so be it i'm all for it.
Ishibumi has already ruined Serafall she's fucking dead.
So the only ones left are Gabriel, Yasaka, Tiamat.
You can't make Issei all about breasts and not give him fucking milfs!
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>>138912226
Don't you think it's creepy to consider Ophis in a harem? She can become anything, it's not like this form is her real one.
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>>138912639
She doesn't have a real form. And let's be honest here, if tits are shoved in Issei's face, he won't care.
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>>138912639
As far as we know she doesn't have a real form.
So it doesn't matter she can change to whatever she likes if she stays in this adult form it's not that far fetched.
Especially after witnessing the other girls and seeing how much fun they have being in love with Issei.
Since she's prone to copying she might want to try this out as well.
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>>138912691
>>138912704
That's what makes it creepy. No real appearance, gender, form etc. Even if the female form is kept I can't stop but thinking about this.
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>>138912949
Any sex in DxD can't be trusted. Issei can dragonify his dick for fucks sake
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Does anyone know when the next Dx. volume comes out? I would imagine they'd announce either s4 or a new ova with it.
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>>138899011

Miyama is VERY busy tentacling all of his figs.
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Ravel is best girl.
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>>138913114
DX.1 was released March 2015.
DX.2 was released December 2015.
I don't remember DX.3 being mentioned on Ishibumi's social media.
So nope we don't have a date.
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>>138913226
>we're back in the dark zone with not knowing when anything is coming out again
I didn't miss this feeling.
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>>138912997
I don't see this as a problem.
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>>138913318
If devils can change their appearance too, who's to say Kiryuu won't make Asia turn into a damn futa? The horrible possibilities are endless.
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>>138913350
It's not said Devils can change their appearance it's said they can change their age.

>Female Devils tend to utilize magic in order to appear much younger than their physical age would suggest, which explains why Venelana Gremory looks as if she were the same age as her youngest child, Rias.
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>>138912639
>any form

could she copy others appearance?
If she could possibilities could be infinite
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>>138913444
>she never gets tired in bed
>issei can never get tired in bed now
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>>138913444
She's a shape shifter so yes ANY form she desires she can take.
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>>138913444

People asking for a milf when Ophis can be a loli an teenager and adult and a milf, Issei just has to ask...

Truly best girl
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>>138913530
the prerequisite for being a milf is having a kid you donut

people want a bona fide milf
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>>138913318
I don't think Issei's girls see any problems with this either.
It'll keep up the spice in the bedroom.
Or he can use it as a sort of reward if they've been good girls.
He needs that leverage they've got too much on him already.
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>>138913595
Well technically Ophis has a child remember that dragon egg?
She's probably going to take care of it even after it's hatched.
I'm not against Grayfia wanting some of that dragon D though.
Now that she's a widow and all.
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>>138913530
>Girl
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>>138913257
Nobody missed this feeling. We're back to praying every day for a sliver of information.

>>138913472
Their offspring would be so genetically superior it's not even funny.
Issei's kids are the future.
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>>138912540
that short story i read with her washing issei's back while naked and drunk says otherwise. mind you this is the same novel where said husband was a massive siscon. anything can happen, it's just matter of if it's done well.
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Did Ishibumi forget to give Rose a promotion or something? For the love of god she just sealed 666.
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>>138913933
Grayfia has already shown she trusts Issei and likes him as a young man.

In the ordeal with the Jabberwocky and regarding his death and regarding her own brother Euclid.

She has generally shown some mild affection towards him as a brother in law.

Maybe Ishibumi spins something with an Euclid Grayfia conflict where his jealousy towards Issei goes out of control.

But i just really don't see it happening even if Ishibumi has a fetish for married women.
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>>138914150
Euclid is Shalba 2.0 anyways. Rizevim is dead which means he's gonna find a way to blame it on Issei.

And I don't think Grayfia will do anything with Issei because of how high risk it would be. Some people would like it but I think even more would dislike it.
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>>138914239
>Some people would like it but I think even more would dislike it.
It'll become one of the greatest guilty pleasures in a while. People will deny it, but it's true nonetheless.
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>>138914150
that's fair. if i had my way, sirzech wouldn't hae been axed so that grayfia doesn't continue to suffer, she's been threw enough thanks to faggot brother of hers.

that being said you cant ntr a deadman, the people calling it that are overreacting.
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>>138914289
Unless Sirzechs somehow left something behind for Issei giving him the okay to do it, or it's confirmed he'll never returned I would feel pretty bad about it happening.
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>>138914315
>>138914362

It's pretty much confirmed everyone that sealed themselves with 666 might as well be dead.
Since they've sealed themselves with that thing for a thousand years.
They're fucked.
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>>138914289
>there are already people claiming to drop dxd if it happens elsewhere
>comparing it to issei x sona crack ship when saji isn't dead and EX already sunk crack ship

i just want the silver MILF to be happy, she deserves a happy ending more then most of the newer haremettes who popped out of nowhere and most people dont give a fuck about.
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>>138914423
We don't know how the seal works. They might be suspended in time or some shit.
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>>138913933
You mean the side story where she straight up said that she sees issei as a younger brother, and where she jokes about stealing him away just to laugh at how the girls reacted with no hint what so ever about it being a thing she would actually consider?

Saying she would go for issei just because Sirzechs is sealed away (the fucker aint even dead) the man she loved so much that their fucking romance is considered a fairy tale in the underworld, is pretty much saying Grayfia is a slut.

I have no idea why people who "like" her want her to do something so out of character.
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>>138914491
there not in the dimensional gap though(which is void of time), it's an entirely different dimension.

>>138914423
pretty much.
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>>138914482
Their opinions on the matter has no worth since they're not the fan base that actually buys it.

So i don't know why you'd bring it up since only the sales in Japan matter.
Unless your source is the japanese it doesn't matter.

And the japanese are perverts that would even shame Issei they'd love this.
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>this handsome motherfucker hasn't shown up in forever
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>>138880440
>Yeah that pic was all the spoiler I need

Also, if anyone can tell me what chapter is the last translated chapter? I'm thinking of scanning the RAWs of the manga (through magazine) starting from ch 50 (which starts the third season) and up...and then praying whoever will translate them.
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>>138914482
Actually EX didn't sink the crack ship.
No mentioning if Sona hooked up with anyone.
And the kids mentioned her being a frequent guest at their home.
If anything it flamed the ship on.
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>>138914482
So to you the only way for a character to be happy is fucking issei?
Anon I think you have a problem.

>she deserves a happy ending
Seeing her husband´s and hers ideals finally come to pass and see a peaceful underworld led by a new generation of devils who actually want to keep it that way, and seeing her son grow up to be some one she and Sirzechs can be proud of seems like a pretty fucking happy ending, a tad bitter sweet but still pretty good, there is no need to have her jumping on dicks just because
>LOL her husband is dead, she needs to fuck to be happy!!!
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>>138914598
the fact that she even joked about something like that while drunk says a lot. so does emphasizing that he's the only one besides her husband to see her naked.

relax anon, i'm not saying she'd jump for issei next volume or some shit. in fact, if it ever were too happen, it would be decades down the line.
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>>138914730
Of the manga? Chapter 32. And it would be much appreciated if you did. We'll get to see the shit that got cut from the anime.
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>>138914701
Garou is in Sona's peerage who's pretty much irrelevant apart from Saji getting some spotlight.
So don't except to see him any time soon.

>>138914730
If you mean the last translated manga chapter that's on the internet that's chapter 32.
If i remember correctly the group that was translating it dropped it because of not finding a translator for it.
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>>138914482
>>comparing it to issei x sona crack ship when saji isn't dead and EX already sunk crack ship

There was never a Sona x Saji relationship anyways, sona killed Saji`s chances a long fucking time ago, and going by EX saji is still stuck in the friendzone and Sona is just running around visiting issei to sit on his lap every other week.
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>>138914859
Bennia is the other member who could become important. She probably joins Issei's harem.
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>>138914740
you got all that from me saying saying i want her to be happy? calm you're autism anon. whatever the author decides for grayfia will be fine by me so long that she is happy. if it's with issei, with sirzechs or by herself fine. i'd prefer either or of the two vs being alone for thousands of years but that's just preference.
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>>138914902
And peerage.
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>>138914902
Ooh yeah, it's hard to keep track of this shit there's just too many characters!
But yeah, Bennia is a cutie and she's also obsessed with the Oppai Dragon.
I can already see her living with Issei and having fangasms with Le Fay.
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>>138914946
I thinks it's more likely that Issei gets the knight Sona originally wanted but couldn't get.
We still don't know who that was though.
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>>138914782
>the fact that she even joked about something like that while drunk says a lot.
Anon, you do know that teasing some one doesnt mean you actually feel any romantic of physical atraction towards them right?
its pretty normal for older people specially women to tease younger boys just because they like to see their reactions , it goes against everything we know about her to imply she actually was serious about that and that eventually she would fall for issei seriously.
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>>138914598
>implying japanese ln's have ever done genuine sibling dynamics properly without it devolving to incest.
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>>138914731
except that they dont see her as a woman because lacks in oppai like all their mothers
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>>138915001
I was thinking along the lines of getting that knight and trading him/her for Bennia, actually.
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>>138915006
You can't deny that from the older women Grayfia seems to have the best opinion about Issei.
There has been some interaction and some setup if Ishibumi really wanted to go trough with this.

>>138915028
>Implying japanese don't love all this shit
It's like it's their first day on the internet or some shit.
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>>138915070
That's just the kids opinions though it has nothing to do with Sona or Issei.
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>>138914930
>vs being alone for thousands of years
So being with her son and family/people she cares for, is now
>being alone for thousands of years

Got it, you cant be happy unless your are fucking some one.
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>>138915006
>implying that scene is in anyway normal.
wtf did i just read. so you mean to tell me it's normal for older married women to wash their not-husbands back while drunk using her tits, tease them about taking them away, and telling them that their one of to people to see her naked?

are you an idiot anon?
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>>138915085
>You can't deny that from the older women Grayfia seems to have the best opinion about Issei.

All the older DxDs (Venelana, Lafy Phenex, Griselda, Yasaka,etc ) love issei the same way, they all think he is a responsible young devil and they all feel good about him fucking the life out of their daughters.
Grayfia went a step further because of the issues with her brother, issei fit the role of a younger brother and thats why she seems more affectionate towards him.

hell out of the mature DxDs the ones i would expect to fuck issei are Gabriel and Yasaka
>double fluffy threesome with Yasaka and Kunou
yeeeeeep.
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>>138915167
who are you to tell me or anyone else what someone should or shouldn't need to be happy. if one decides they want a life partner in their lives to be happy, that's their choice. you may not like it but devaluing that opinion to a need for sex is ridiculous. unless you think everyone who has ever re-married is only doing for the sex you piece of shit.
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>>138914362
>Unless Sirzechs somehow left something behind for Issei giving him the okay to do it
Sirzechs is very easily the gayest guy in the series for Issei.
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>>138915384
>he wanted issei to call him onee-chan
as if the taking pics of rias in her sleep for years wasn't creepy enough... still my nigga though
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>>138915364
is this yasaka
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>>138915364
Yasaka already wants the DxD. It's only a matter of time before Gabriel and Tiamat want it.
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>>138915489
No, it's Omachi, from the game Sengoku Rance.
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>>138915189
>wtf did i just read. so you mean to tell me it's normal for older married women to wash their younger brother´s back while drunk using her tits, tease them about taking them away, and telling them that their one of to people to see her naked?

Yes anon, believe it or not outside americlap bathing with your family members and teasing them about shit doesnt mean you want to fuck them.


Also lets ignore an entire series and just focus on a single scene played out in a humorous teaseful way and base our entire understanding of the character on that one scene.

sure that makes sense.
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>>138915364
>Yasaka and Kunou threesome
S-So fluffy!

Lets hope with Gabriel leading heaven she gets more involved in the story and gets more interactions with Issei.

No fucking clue where Ishibumi is going to go with Tiamat though.
He keeps hyping us up by not having that first encounter between Issei and Tiamat.
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>>138915566
But she was drunk. According to her husband, she is a troublemaker when under the influence.
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>>138915587
Hopefully Tiamat is just a goofball old dude.

There is a serious lack of them now that they all pseudo died
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>>138915623
People intoxicated usually are more honest with their feelings and actions.
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>>138915376
>who are you to tell me my opinion is wrong! your opinion is wrong!!!! why are you trying to force your opinion on to a character when i was already forcing my opinion on them !!!

Oh anon you are loosing your grip there.

also lets not forget its you faggots who pushed the sex thing by going
>Grayfia will get the DxD now!!!
as soon as the spoiler about sirzechs came out, so stop pretending it was ever not about her and issei fucking.

>nah thats not waht i mean!

sure it wasn´t anon, sure it wasn´t.
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>>138915519
What's her three sizes? I can only find her height
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>>138915566
>bathing with your family members.
except their not family members by blood or even inlaws yet
>ignoring all the other weird shit i just mentioned
>backpeddling by bringing in other aspectics of the series when you claimed nothing could support the idea at all

try making sense before claiming others dont
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>>138915661
>Hopefully Tiamat is just a goofball old dude.
Tiamat is female anon, we have known this for a long fucking time.

And the hype also comes because we know that she and Ddraigg have history together, no one is sure what kind but Ddraigg mentions that Tiamat would try to kill issei if they ever met.

The fan theory is that she was Ddraigg`s waifu and that he left her behind to fight Albion and she got mad about it.

the other theory is that the original argument between Albion and Ddraigg that they both forgot about what it was over, was actually over what was better Tiamat´s ass or her tits, which is where all the host for each of them have been fans of asses and tits.
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>>138915661
Tiamat seemed more of a serious type when Ajuka and Shiva had their confrontation.
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>>138914865
>and going by EX saji is still stuck in the friendzone
What happened with Saiji in EX? I don't remember seeing him mentioned in any of the summaries.
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>>138915690
>i herd drunks are more honest on the internet one time so it most be true for everyone!

Anon no...stop, you are going to hurt your self.
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>>138915701
>wrong opinion
>opinion

>strawmen

>putting in words in peoples mouths then backpeddling with bs claims because you can't argue against the response
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>>138915887
That's because he wasn't mentioned at all he's probably a teacher or something.
He's not important anyway.
Issei has better bro's and stronger bro's.
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>>138915951
I speak from experience so i don't know why you went there.
You're acting pretty childish you know.
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>>138915979
Saji has been shafted so hard throughout the series. You would have expected him to be one of the important guys back in the first few volumes, then slowly he lost all standing in the series to Sairaorg, Cao Cao, Dulio etc.
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>>138915979
Why would he be mentioned even if him and Sona had hooked up though? It doesn't really make sense to say "going by EX" if there wasn't anything to suggest he was friendzoned.
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>>138916024
dont mind him anon, people on the internet love to pretend to know what the world outside their basement is like
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>>138916080
Sona is mentioned as still going over to visit issei, so either he is still in the friend zone or is getting cucked even harder than before
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>>138916024
>I speak from experience
I can garantee you do not, or from VERY limited expirence.

Saying all drunks are more honest about their feelings is a pretty dumb thing to say and the people who usually say it do it because of an old trope that is thrown around in tv, movies, etc.

>>138916109
Funny considering the only people who believe the
>all drunks are honest
are the kind of people who never leave their basement and have never really interacted with drunk people.
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>>138916159
That doesn't mean anything when they are all friends with her. The stuff in EX is way too vague to tell us anything, Ishibumi was just ship teasing.
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>>138916320
>saying all drunks are more honest
>poster never said that
>usually

when you are drunk, you loses your sense of inhibitions and are prone to doing and saying things you normally keep tucked in depending on how drunk you are and what type of drunk you are.

while it's true this doesn't apply to all drunks, saying it's usually the case is retarded or worthy of you dogging the poster for it.
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>>138916031
Well when he has characters like Kiba, Sairaorg, Vali, etc to be Issei's bro's Saji really seems meh.
So i can understand why he doesn't really get any screen time.

>>138916109
I guess, he's taking this all a bit too seriously.

>>138915747
Only Ishibumi knows since i don't remember it being mentioned anywhere.
You'll have to look at the anime and compare sizes between characters if you really need to know.
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>>138916497
*isn't
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>>138880807
>that cover

So I guess they went full fujo pandering now?
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>>138880440

What happened to her bloomers? Is she even wearing anything down there? Knowing her she wouldn't care.
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>>138916576
If it takes more illustrations wasted on handsome men to get a sequel and a new season, then so be it.
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>>138916320
I don't know why i have to defend my experiences with alcohol.
Seriously you need a drink.
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>>138916535
>>138916031
Saiji hasn't really had it that bad. He's definitely Issei's closest friend outside of Rias' peerage, and he's gotten some pretty good spotlight throughout the series.
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>>138916535
>Only Ishibumi knows since i don't remember it being mentioned anywhere.
Ouch. Thanks for the info.
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>that time TNK foreshadowed s3 in s1
Was there really a point in doing this?
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>>138916031
>Saji finally reaches balance breaker
>Fafnir steals the show

Ishibumi really is cruel
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You all Issei x Grayfia shippers who self insert as him should all die. If she ever moves on it should be with Ajuka and I don't think she'll move on. She'll focus on her child.
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>>138917651
Settle down there ESL-kun, there's nothing wrong with discussing hypotheticals.
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>>138917651
Now you're just being retarded.
There's zero interactions between Ajuka and Grayfia.
If you're going to lose your shit over shipping don't do the fucking same.
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>>138917756
Not that anon but the prequel that Ishibumi mentioned before was supposed to be about Sirzechs Ajuka and Grayfia so some people speculated that Ajuka might have liked her.
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>>138917651
>careful, we're not allowed to disagree with ESL kun with our 'wrong opinions'

fuck off
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>>138917708
Not him.
>>138917756
I don't ship them.
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>>138917789
And that's even more retarded since it's just speculation.

It's the same speculation shit as Grayfia x Issei except there's some interactions there to present as "proof"

>>138917834
Then don't fucking mention it you fucking twat here you go losing your shit over shipping and then you mention said woman hooking up with random guy.
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>>138917834
>If she ever moves on it should be with Ajuka
>I don't ship them.
The implications state otherwise. If you don't ship them, why make such a redundant statement?
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>>138905559
>no
CatNep
So sad
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>>138917931
shipper fags are the worst
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>>138917093
Well if you have to pad out the crowd at a party, might as well throw some cameos in.
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Since the number of maou probably won't increase until the future, I'm assuming Diehauser and Roygun will become maou. Grayfia could also become Leviathan because if you do recall, she challenged Serafall for the title before in the past.
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>>138918192
Isn't Diehauser in prison for all the shit he pulled?
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>>138918192
wouldn't sona succeed serafall though since the position is passed down by family? heck rias takes over until milcas is ready in EX.
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>>138918269
I don't think we learned where he went after volume 20. Issei said he needed to repent, but he did forgive him and wanted to fight him someday, so maybe him taking over as one of the leaders can be his form of repenting.
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>>138917986
>>138917931
>Mention someone
>Means I am shipping them
It means you are very simple minded.
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>>138918328
The Maou titles aren't passed down through family line. They're exceptionally powerful devils that are capable of leading selected for the role.
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>>138918328
Rias took over as family head not as maou.
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>>138918371
well acording to EX that's exactly what happened. rias took over but then stepped down for milcas
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>>138918419
Huh? Maou titles have nothing to do with being the head of the house.
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>>138918371
>>138918419
nevermind i got confused about this>>138918391
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>>138918357
>ad hominem
I feel sorry if this post is what you consider discourse. I have noted your lack of defense towards the aforementioned redundant statement, and thank you for your contribution.
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How will Milicas use PoD? It's hard to imagine how someone could rival Sirzechs with the same ability.
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>>138918575
Unless Milicas was born with the ability to turn into pure PoD, he might not surpass his father. He'll just use it tactically. Imagine Sona with PoD.
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>>138918335
Diehauser not only helped Rizevim a terrorist but also assaulted the hero of the underworld.
If he's not rotting in jail Ishibumi completely fucked up.
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>>138918536
>and thank you for your contribution
You're welcome.
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>>138918575
Milicas won't ever surpass Sirzechs he's fucking POD given shape.
Milicas does end up becoming a super devil and a maou though.
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>>138918624
But he will become a Super Devil in the future. He should be able to rival him in the future.
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>>138918575
>>138918624
According to that side story he could control his PoD pretty easily,maybe better than Rias, so I assume he can control it even better in the future and even if he doesn't have the same power as Sirzechs he is he's son so he must be pretty fucking strong
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>>138918649
Issei sympathized with him after learning how he was trying to expose the corruption in the underworld which got his cousin killed. It'd be weird to see him not get punished somehow but who knows. Volume 22 will likely cover that.

>>138918702
>>138918725
I don't remember EX ever mentioning Milicas at all.
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>>138918746
>“After thirty years, there are six people who become transcendental beings (Super Devils) in the Underworld. Among them are Prince Milicas oji-sama, Lord Ajuka Beelzebub, and Uncle Vali.”
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>>138918862
>Milicas
>Ajuka
>Vali
>Issei
>Sairaorg
>Gasper
I could've sworn Kiba was one.
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>>138918920
That list are pretty much all heavy hitters or people that transcend all common sense.

Kiba doesn't really fit in there even if he is a genius technique type knight.
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>>138918920
Sairaorg is not mentioned.
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>>138918995
Wait, wasn't it stated that there were 7 maou though? Based off the seven deadly sins or something. That's what the previous translator said.

>>138919147
This volume basically implies it. I can't imagine Kiba ever surpassing Sairaorg.
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>>138919147
Indeed he's not mentioned but it's safe to make that assumption since his goal is to be a maou.
And seeing as he got a huge power up this volume myeah.

>>138919203
That's what's in the EX translations all i did was copy.
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>>138919203
Lucifer, Beelzebub, Leviathan, Asmodeus, Amon, Belphegor, Belial

Kurenai added that from the current Four Great Maous, only Ajuka Beelzebub is still in position.

Doesn't say who are they we can only assume
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>>138919203
There are indeed 7 Maou's.

That list is the 6 Super devils.
A super devil isn't automatically a maou.
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>>138919280
Since Sirzechs straight up said Issei and Vali would be good maous, maybe at least one of them does become one. Sairaorg is a given based on his dream, and there's Ajuka still. That leaves a few more.
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>>138919413
Vali is confirmed to be leader of a magician organization so i doubt he's a maou don't know about Issei
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>>138919622
Issei has enough to deal with he doesn't need to be a maou on top of it all.

Unless it would be a figure head position just for the public's peace of mind i highly doubt it.
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>>138919750
Him being a maou would explain why he barely had any time for his kids.
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>>138919781
That's easily explained thanks to continues war and fixing of the aftermath trough being the Oppai Dragon.
He probably also serves as the vanguard for every faction so he has to keep up relations.
Maybe he even has to be the Oppai Dragon for every faction and not just the underworld.

There's plenty of reasons why he could be so busy but yes being a maou could be one of them.
It wasn't mentioned in EX although Ishibumi might be keeping this as a surprise.
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>>138919961
Issei is known to blame himself for bad things. He may blame himself for Sirzechs being sealed, and honor his wish and become a maou. But yeah, he's a busy guy either way.
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>>138920019
Issei has a huge persecution complex so you can bet your ass he's blaming himself for all this shit.
Ishibumi is dead set on not cutting Issei any slack.
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>>138918920
>dude
>dude
>more dudes

No wonder fujos jumped at this shit.

I never before saw a fun fanservice harem series become a complete sausage fest like DxD did.
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>>138920254
>the strongest "female" in the series can change her gender at any point
Ishibumi doesn't like having strong women in comparison to guys it seems. Basically every relevant guy is a handsome ass motherfucker.
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>>138920422

No wonder Miyama0 stopped giving a fuck about illustrating this.
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>>138880440

So now there is a loli Ophis and cowtits Ophis running around?

I guess that's a positive change.
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>>138920765
Who picks what's illustrated? The illustrator or the author? Because we didn't need a colored one wasted on Diehauser when it could've been used on 666 instead.
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>>138920844

I really doubt that artist decides what's illustrated.
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>>138920866
It's probably the fucking editor
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>>138920844
Very doubtful that Miyama has any say in this.
It's probably Ishibumi's editors that get a say in that.
You know because they know the ""market"" they're fucking retards.
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>>138920254
It's always been like that.
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>>138921022

First season was nothing like that. It was a promising demongirl series.
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>>138914859
Damn, wanted to start at 50 since it's intermission between New and Born (I have older chapters from 02/2015 to whatever the hell ch 50's at) but shame no translators...like every other harem manga.
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>>138921101
By the last few episodes it was clear that it was gonna embrace the battle in battle harem with powerful guys.
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>>138921106
If you put it on the internet there might be a chance of someone jumping in.
We've already got several people doing the novel, the DX volumes and the EX side story.
There's about 4-5 translators working on this series so there are people willing to do it.
It's just a matter of time.
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>>138921123
I am kind of pissed that there is no OP Phoenix, I like them a lot.
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>>138921123

It was just a generic damsel in distress arc. Series could go anywhere from there.

Now DxD is in fujo section of LN stores.

Anime even tried to give Rias more focus with original content because LN is nothing but sweaty dudes by this point. Ophis saved LN's for some time but that's it. It's like some fucking Naruto with tits now.
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>>138921366
Riser's older brother was ultimate-class, but that's nothing now. I'm sure Ravel's daughter will be broken as hell.
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>>138921390
That original content was horrible. An entire volume focused on guys with no girls whatsoever would still be better than that.
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>>138921444

At least they tried.
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>>138880440

Is that some weird censoring around those things covering her nipples or Miyama just fucked up?
>>
Ishibumi already said the harem hijinks and fanservice is all coming back with a vengeance in the coming volumes.
Jeez, it's just MUH TITS with you guys.
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>>138921555
This desu. If it was just Issei and 99% girls it would be super big self insert. That's how most people see LN's regardless, but that's how some are basically designed. See: IS.
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>>138921555

It was gone for years and you are surprised people are pissed?

Look at the last cover. It's full fujoshit mode.
>>
Is there an illustration of Tobio or Lavinia?
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>>138921689

That's not the problem. Action is not the problem. The problem is the fact that 90% of the strongest and relevant characters are homoerotic dudes. And that Issei is way too strong compered to the rest of his group.
>>
i want to tie the tip of akenos ponytail onto my dick into a neat little ribbon. when i start fucking her and thrusting it in her head will be under my control and i'll smack her with kisses and neck bites while she asks for more
then we can switch places
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>>138921782
Because it's a ""Vali"" volume.

You can't blame them for trying to appeal to 2 different fan bases to ensure the further success of the series?

Also it hasn't been gone for years there's been some every volume it just wasn't enough for you.

>>138921870
Now your just being nitpicky Issei is the MC he's supposed to be nr 1.

There's plenty of strong women Rias and Xenovia stand out amongst them in the main cast.

Let's be honest here you just want breasts shoved down your throat.
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>>138921870
Gasper in balor mode could still fuck up Issei if you ask me.

Ishibumi already confirmed that the girls are taking the rest of the covers, so stop getting your panties in a bunch that one of more than 30 likely volumes has a single dude on it, especially when a good portion of the fanbase is female.
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>>138922002
>Issei is the MC he's supposed to be nr 1.

Says who? Araragi is not the strongest. Ichika is not the strongest. Touma is not the strongest. Those are LN's that sell many time better than DxD ever did.

Shit, even in SAO there is a girl stronger than MC.
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>>138922193
Index of late has been selling about the same as DxD. IS only got popular due to the ability for nips to self insert. Monogatari hardly emphasizes the fights, and don't even bring up SAO. Issei is strong but there's PLENTY of characters stronger than him. And there will be even more now that other worlds have been introduced.
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>>138922193
you do realize the only reason issei is the strongest is because literally all the stronger ones just died?

>ichika.
underpowered dense morron
>touma
uncomparible
>araragi
literally who?
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>>138922193
So you won't be satisfied unless it copies other series?
Do you have any idea how dumb that sounds?
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>>138922338

DxD sells 40-50k. Latest NT volumes still break 100k. Index used to do 250k.
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>>138922383

MC completely overshadowing his friends is a shit formula.
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>>138922338
>but there's PLENTY of characters stronger than him

And almost all of them are homoerotic guys.

Face it, DxD is a fujo series now.
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>>138922430
Well gee, it's almost like you're new to series that actually focus on fighting.

>>138922387
Anyways, Index has been a massive hit for years now so no surprise. DxD is up there with DAL and TLR as one of the most popular harems in the last decade. With the ridiculous influx of battle harems since then, I don't get the point in trying to refute the popularity of the series by comparing with sales of something in a different genre.

>>138922521
Riiight, so those expanded erotic moments Ishibumi talked about is definitely talking about the guys, right?
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>>138922430
>I don't like X therefore it's bad if used.
Great, thanks for your opinion.

>>138922521
>I'm such a horny man child i can't deal with it unless there's tits and more tits
Great, thanks for your opinion.
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>>138921390
>Now DxD is in fujo section of LN stores.
You post the same image over and over again of a single store that you never took.

I've seen the Naruto LN in the 16+ section of stores who just stock shit wherever too. Hell go walk into a bookstore here, you will find shit stocked in random places.
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>>138922700
>hyperbolic rhetoric
Great argument fagtron you sure convinced me with all those hot opinions
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>>138922700

Show starts with a bunch of girls, one guy and a female villain.

Then it becomes a sausagefest. I'm pretty sure even fucking Naruto had more strong females than DxD.
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>>138922713

Born pre-screening was 2/3 female.
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>>138923195
50%.

>>138923159
So you're complaining the the villains are not female now? There's more female than male characters in this series. No one complained about this shit prior to this volume which is the one volume that specifically focuses on the guys. See if you still have these half-assed complaints after the next few volumes which go back to focusing on the girls.
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>>138923195
>2/3
You mean nearly half, stop making shit up
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>>138923288

There may be more female characters overall, but among the actually important characters almost all are male. The only real exception is not even a real girl but a shape-shifting genderless monster.
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>>138923363
Being powerful =/= being important.

Stop acting like this is Naruto or some shit. The important characters are the main characters, not the powerful enemies who are eventually defeated. But if you wanna talk like that, let's talk about how Rossweisse sealed 666, which so happens to be ridiculously strong.
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>>138880440
ADULT OPHIS IS GIVING ME AN UNHOLY BONER

HELP
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>>138923363
And all those guys are going to go back to secondary characters the next fucking volume.

The main cast consist of Issei and the orc.
Which if i remember had 2 other guys and 6 girls not to mention the other girls living with him.

They're the main cast this is a fighting volume so obviously the fighters are going to get more spotlight.

This is the climax it had no place for TITS.
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>>138923744
People should be happy that we got that breast milk thing. Volume 12's only gag was great red shouting oppai.
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>>138923431
>Stop acting like this is Naruto or some shit

But it literally is for like 15 volumes.
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>>138923816
and it was glorious
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>>138923676
Just fap

>>138923835
I didn't know Naruto had oppai dragon, breast goddesses from other worlds, oppai zombies, breast beams and other things. Please tell me more.
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>>138923816
Exactly how Ishibumi comes up with this shit i'll never know.
That insane glorious bastard.
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>>138923919

Just go take a look at AS. All the people discussing DxD are also active on Naruto or One Piece boards. It's shonenshit with tits.
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>>138923989
>referencing the people who are talking about it
>comparing it to other series they like
You're out of shit to say anon, give it up.
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>>138923989
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? (not the other anon)

A good portion of the AS fanbase isn't diehard DxD in the first place. It's just one of many series they follow.
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>>138924075
>Smug Ophis
Wonder if she's gonna give Rias that look and say my Issei.
How hilarious would Rias's expression be?
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>>138924075

I'm starting to love her lead eyes.

Shame anime is so low budget.
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>all this new mythology stuff

Seems pretty interesting.

Around which part did S3 stop following the light novel and went full anime original?
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>>138924225
>Rias and Akeno have a panic attack after Grayfia came on to Issei
>suicide after dragon god does

>>138924271
I don't like the way they designed her in S3.

>>138924275
From the start, but it wasn't really bad until the last 3 episodes. Before that they just hashed two volumes together. If you plan to read it, just start from volume 5.
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>>138924275
Pretty much the whole of S3 is loosely canon except for the last 3 eps.
You'll still want to read from Volume 5 though.
Since ALLOT of stuff was either cut or ruined.
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>>138924385

Every single anime design is far inferior to LN.

DxD anime looks like some 15 years old super cheap series.
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>>138924275
>>138924385
>>138924407
Technically BorN is canon now but it's in a really fucked up way. Just start reading from volume 5 (where season 3 would've started).
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>>138924685
I wouldn't say that. There's good special effects for the powerups and at least the armors aren't CGI'd like most are nowadays. For a battle harem, it has top of the line production value, although that's not particularly impressive anyways.
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>>138924769
The anime production is fine now the manga art is seriously fucked up bad.
I'm certain if it had a decent artist this series would be at least twice as popular.
It's one of the things that's seriously dragging the series down.
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>>138924977
If I could ever get my hands on the newer chapters, I'd still read it. I wanna see the events of the LN done properly, even if the art is shit. Maybe they'll fix this fucker's terrible design.
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>>138901377
It's happening though.
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>>138925191
Proofs?
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>>138925191
dont evoke the wrath of the AS normies, they're already up in arms of this shit as is.
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>>138880440
>Adult Ophis
SOILED IT
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>>138925950
Lilith is still a thing and she's going to replace loli ophis as mascot.
Plus Ophis can shape shift so she can go back to loli anytime.
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>>138924685
Ravel and Ross were pretty good.
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>>138926086
LN Ravel is just too cute and is perfect
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>>138926086
Rose is incredibly more lewd in the LN.
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>>138925568
Explain further.
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>series about devils, demons and dragons
>no loli demongirls

Such a waste.
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>>138924977
the art in the manga is just all over the place, it will have a great couple of pages and then turn to shit on the next couple more.

and lets not talk about the Asia/Koneko manga.
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>>138926447
>one guy literally threaten to drop the ln
>some other guy wont pick it up until he's sure it wont happen

>it swallowed the thread with responses ranging from "as long as it's done well" to "eww ntr".

>somehow the wiki is talking more about the spoilers and plot potential
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>>138926351
I'll bet 100 yen she's the first to go for anal.
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>all titty monsters
> Only three images with Koneko

Does /a/ really hate Koneko that much? ;.;
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>>138926932
She's still great. It's just hard to notice her at times when there's dozens of literal semen demons everywhere.
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>>138926932
>;.;
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>>138926828
Built for it.
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>>138926932
Adult Koneko Is 10/10
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>>138927159
I'm guessing this is another miyama fuck up, but isn't Koneko in that form supposed to be the same size as Kuroka for her tits?
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>>138912611
Wait magical girl Serafall died? When? I need to catch up already.
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>>138927213
Serafall and several leaders sealed themselves with 666 for a thousand years.
She might as well be dead.
Read the thread bro spoilers for v21 all over.
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>Mil-tan never became her servant
Fuck you Ishibumi.
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>>138927208
Is she? why would she be? They're not twins.
So why would they have the same body type?
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>>138927368
I'll have to check again but Issei said something about her being on the same level as Kuroka I think.
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>>138927405
man i would ruin kuroka
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>>138926932
Koneko is second place in the poll so obviously people like her.
http://strawpoll.me/7138260
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>>138927405
If that's true then yeah Miyama fucked up, but that's nothing new.
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>>138927453
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>>138926712
Wiki is about info though, unless you meant the comment section.

Also since that SS the idea of Issei fucking Grayfia made me diamonds and now Ishibumi is delivering, I can't complain.
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>>138927562
please, more senpai
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>>138927669
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>>138927669
Who doesn't like milfs on younger men?
That shit is instant diamonds yo.
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>tfw the cards looked better than the actual anime
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>>138927669
yeah i meant the comment section, even that cesspool was less toxic.

you and me both buddy

>>138927782
apparently those who think dating a widow is stealing/ntr. and yes, that nigga and the others are dead. if the beast doesn't kill him the exhaustion from casting the seal will.
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>>138928060
>toxic
You have to go back.
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>>138927082
Built for marriage you mean.
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>>138928159
why would i do that when i already have the spoilers? did the spergging die down?
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>>138928060
Sirzechs loses his sister then his son then his parents and now his wife.
Is Sirzechs the king of cucks?

>>138928301
Kinda it's still coming up in a few posts though.
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>>138928284
Built for marriage, tender loving and incredibly hard fucking.
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>>138927782
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>>138928060
>yeah i meant the comment section, even that cesspool was less toxic.
If you think that go to see Raildex Wiki Index(character)'s comment section.
Literally a encyclopedia of shitposting from insecure Kamikotofags

>you and me both buddy
Muh brother of African descent.
>>138927782
>who doesn't
Normies with double morals.


I'm not into ntr but the thought of Issei nailing Gray while she screams how better he is than her late husband while she legs lock him begging for a baby making creampie makes me cum with the power of an Infinite Blaster.
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More spoilers when?
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>666 is so strong all leaders of all factions must sacrifice themselves to stop it for some time
>GR and Ophis are just as strong

It kind of feels like everything in the series is a joke when their "mascot" is something like this.
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>>138887048

>stockings

Gross
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>>138928410
>Issei nailing Gray while she screams how better he is than her late husband while she legs lock him begging for a baby making creampie

Seriously stop it anon i can only get so hard.
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>>138928500
666 would probably give those two some serious problems regardless. Not only is it as strong as them, it has instant regeneration. That's something that neither of them have.
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>>138928060
>Widow
He isn't dead. Fuck off.
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>>138928366
well technically none of those count but pretty much, makes up for it for living and going out like a badass

i'll wait then
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>>138928500
The problem with that is that them fighting would end all life.
So it was never an option.

>>138928592
Ishibumi pretty much nailed the coffin shut himself.
He's never coming back not in this novel and most likely not even in the sequel unless there's a thousand year time skip.
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>>138928502
Those are some fighting words.
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>>138928471

If their race is dying out but their females are begging for dick so much why aren't they organizing nakadashi gangbangs all the time?

Where one penis fails 50 could succeed.
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>>138928410
i'm almost tempted to take you up on that

my nigga, my nigga
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>>138928556
>That's something that neither of them have.

We know shit about what they really have.
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>Ara ara ara
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>>138928790

Horrible nipples.
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>>138928376
made me laugh like in idiot. good meme anon
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>>138928556
Didn't Ophis get a hole in the stomach because of cao cao and she just healed like it was nothing?
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>>138928500
I thought it was GR/666, than Ophis. They are all still pretty much god tier though
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>>138928624

Milf on young boy is the best when she's stronger than him and can force him to do anything.

That won't really work with Issei unfortunately. Unless oppai Ophis decides to try something she saw in night time TV.
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>>138928702
DICK STATUS: MUH

>>138929095
It was never distinguished if GR was stronger than Ophis, that's just what fans think. It's most likely true though because if she was stronger, she wouldn't have made the Khaos Brigade.
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>>138929095

They are all exactly equal. Unless you are counting the current Ophis. But that's meaningless really since she can merge with Lilith any time.
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>>138929148

If they were equal they couldn't really defeat each other. That's why making a force that could give her a slight advantage made perfect sense.

It was never ever said in the novels that GR was stronger.
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>>138929100
That's called role playing my good man.
I'm certain Issei would be up for some of that.
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When is this getting an all-girl yuri spin-off?

All popular harem novels are getting those these days.
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>>138929283
That chance died when Serafall kicked the bucket.
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>>138929283
Never. All pussy is for issei. 30 fucking kids man...that we know of.

Fucking editors making issei stay pure is some bullshit
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>>138929366
it was 20
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>>138929366

So like 2/3 of the harem never even appeared yet?

30 is a bit much, but I'm not even surprised. All other dudes seem like tremendous homos. While females act like they wouldn't survive a day without semen.
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>>138929497
Some of the girls may have more than one child. We don't know for sure yet, and won't for many more years to come.
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>>138929283
They tried that with the Asia/ Koneko spin off manga.
Don't think it did well.

>>138929425
20 plus since 12 kids came from the future and Kurenai said they had at least as many kids not yet of age or non fighters at home.
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>>138929548
>20 girls fucked him and had kids

In reality that would be a complete disaster. Every real harem was full of backstabbing, murders and hate.
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>>138928689
Demons don't have strong libido.
Look how Serafal, Ajuka, etc don't have children and with luck Rias' parents were able to fuck twice and able to make two children but God knows how long it took them.

Issei on the other side has sex drive as his way of life.
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He has the charisma of a dragon too. And everyone wants dragon dick.
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>>138929777

They probably don't have hormones.
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>>138928689
Doesn't work like that, devils especially purebloods want children of their own (because noble) so if they find out they're not the fathers they would cast their child away, or worse that child has no power and gets the same treatment as Sairaorg.
In case they're indeed the father now the upper-tier of the underworld knows the mother is a whore, congratulation on throwing your name and pride away.
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>>138929726
>Every real harem was full of backstabbing, murders and hate
Not if the harem doesn't fight for the male's fortunate and attention, also they have their own goals and works, doubt they have time for petty conflicts.
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>>138929883

Do devils have DNA tests?
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>>138929777
except thats wrong because of so many of them having harems.

what they lack are isn't the drive but the bullets to knock up pure breds, whose eggs are the equivelent of a demilitarize zone. those sperm better be solid snake tier
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>>138929964

It's also about which kid inherits everything. Only super rich people had harems.
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>>138929970
They have more advanced tech than current human world, it's not problem to them, also testing power is required if one is a noble-born.
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>>138930017
Given their 10000 years lifespan no doubt kids would be rich by their own.
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>>138929982
after trying much they pretty much give up and lose their libido as time passes by.
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Does the translation read well or is it bad?
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>>138930272
it reads very well for me and I ain't a native speaker
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>>138930144
>implying having a libido revolves around knocking someone up

anon you cant be serious.
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>>138930323
I'll wait for someone that actually knows English to give their opinion.
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>>138930377
Unless you're extremely picky, it's fine. Native English speaker here. It gets better as it goes on.
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Lol at all these idiots thinking Issei and Grayfia is going to become a thing. The next arc is the final arc of the series and everything in that arc will happen in Issei's last year at school. Grayfia won't move on from Sirzechs within that timeframe so it will never happen/be written. The closest you'll get is Issei comforting a devastated Grayfia as a younger brother.
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>>138930488
>final arc of the series
Final arc of "High School" DxD.
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>>138930377
just so you know if I can understand it so can you, english is an easy language
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>>138930549

I really hope next series will get a different main cast.
>>
If you are needing a milf fix then you have a higher chance with Kunou's mother.
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>>138930377
Not a native speaker here too but it's good anon. Basically i learned how to read english books by reading dxd. And i found that i'd rather read this in english than in my native language (native just appear to look weird)
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>>138930658

Maybe a continuation of EX featuring Issei's kids as the main characters or Slashdog.
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>>138930658
Fat chance. It's gonna be College/University DxD.
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>>138930772
Wasn't slash dog a free web comic that made no money? If that's true Ishibumi's editors would sooner shoot him.
Don't know how japan received EX so no comment there.

>>138930783
Most likely this Highschool DxD is popular because of the main cast suddenly changing them isn't going to go over well with nip fans and could be disastrous for sales.
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>>138930488
>within that timeframe
i'm sorry, i dont see anyone here saying otherwise.

>lol at all these idiots...
yes we're idiots for simply entertaining the same idea ichi teased in a SS, stemming from his fetish for married women.

>the closest you'll get is...
see here's the thing, that's already more then what people who entertain the idea would expect, and would make this "crack ship" even more plausible. you just helped your opposition without even knowing it, and we're the idiots? HAHA
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>>138930914

Spin-off often sell much better than the main series. Just look at Railgun.

He should pick the most popular side characters and make a series about them.
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How would Issei react to Chifusa and her abilities?
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>>138930987
Railgun is a unique case i for the life of me can't think of another spin-off that did well.
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>>138930914
Slashdog is a free web novel. EX wouldn't be whipped out until everyone is tired of the main cast and he's explored everything he can for them.
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>>138931058
Thought as much Ishibumi's editors would put a stop to that idea.
The only thing that makes sense is a direct sequel.
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>>138930953

Grayfia was drunk. She was only washing Issei's back. She doesn't think of issei in a sexual way. She thinks of him as a little brother. But go ahead keep entertaining yourself with your deluded ideas.

The author also had an idea of Akeno whipping her father in a S/M fetish. You think Akeno is going to start banging her own father too?
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>>138931203
>The author also had an idea of Akeno whipping her father in a S/M fetish. You think Akeno is going to start banging her own father too?
Nice false equivalence.
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>>138930363
Devils are a race with low birthrate and long lifespan. It makes sense.

The reason why a race reproduces is to make sure the offsprings will carry on with the line, if the race lives too long the need to reproduce decreases.
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>>138930987
Railgun worked because it ride on the main series hype train.

It's the only case and it will be alive as long as the fanfic ship doesn't gets sunk yet, sunk Kamikoto and Railgun will flop.
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>>138931203
this fuccboi post again. not bothering with the normal faggotry again. read these
>>138917708
>>138915189
>>138915085
>>138915028
>>138914782
>>138913933
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>>138931369
making sense and being cannon do not equate.

the reason why we reproduce =/= the reasons why we have sex, see issei for details anon
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>>138931685
I'm talking based on the info we got from the ln I'm not taking other fiction on this.
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>>138924275
it starts going full anime original the moment Issei gets the Juggernaut Drive
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>>138932137
Vail going JD to fight him was a good touch but it was too short, and they should've kept the oppai dragon song to break him out of it.
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>>138931867
the problem with that is nothing in the LN supports this lack of libido. notable demons have harems besides issei. (rias dad, the bael family, the phenex family) try telling riser he has a low libido.
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I cant really ready books at the moment since my eyes are fucked, but i can read short shit. Is there a list of tldr or something for each volume?
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>>138931439

Railgun anime sold two times better than Index anime and 3 times better than novels. It completely destroyed the main series in sales.

And Touma barely even appeared in S1. In S2 he had more screen time and it sold worse.

Railgun shows what a well done spin-off series can achieve. DxD has a really nice setting but fails to utilize it's full potential. Mainly due to harem formula.
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>>138932213
>LN has oppai dragon song
>BorN has The Power Of Love™
And the fact that the oppai dragon song wasn't sung by Serafall like in the LN kinda ruined that moment for me
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>>138932303
The wiki is all I can think of.
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>>138932315
>this memefag again
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>>138932315
>DxD
>without harem
It's like you want the franchise to die.
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>>138932303
http://highschooldxd.wikia.com/wiki/Issei_Hyoudou
Scroll down it has short summaries.
Then just change between characters trough home>characters.
Best you'll get.
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>>138932486

What's wrong about it? Those sales numbers are a fact.
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>>138932500
Imagine if it wasn't a harem, yet still got all these volumes.

Who would end up with who?
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>>138932464
Sounds good thanks anon, I read up to volume 10, life 3, but i cant really go any further.
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>>138932554
With the Death-for-plot-chan.
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>>138932542
If sales mean anything, that means Mahouka and SAO are the best LN's out there.
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>>138932500

Make some all girl spin off and it would probably sell better.

All girl series sell much better than harems.
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>>138932653
Sales aren't an issue for DxD.
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>>138932607

Except they are not the best selling LN's ever.

And how is that related to Railgun failing the moment Kamikoto is kill? Railgun arcs with Touma sold the worst.
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>>138932705

They are just okay. Nothing great really. You are telling me author wouldn't want to make more money?
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>>138932783
Not if it's something he doesn't want to write. It sells well above average and that's plenty for a battle harem.
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>>138932827

Born sold just 6k average. Novels are doing 40k which is far below really popular series.
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>>138932876
6k is above average nowadays, especially for the genre. And sure, let's compare something from the harem genre to something that's not. TLR and One Piece, let's compare those sales. The only battle harem I can think of that consistently outsells DxD is DAL, which is popular almost solely because of Tsunako.
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>>138932876
And S1 sold 10k and S2 sold 9k so what?
S3 took a tumble since they fucked around but that'll be fixed S4.
Production costs are low so it's profitable.

Are you just here to go haha your series sells lower then other series?
Just get to the damned point your trying to make.
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>>138933044

6k may seem good for harems, but the truth is harems are simply selling like shit.

It still did okay, but if the drop from S2 to S3 is any indicator it's no wonder people are worried about making S4.
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>>138932743
The only reason Railgun is for is for shipping, not how nobody on Japan cares about the manga now that there is no Mikoto and Touma around.

Also comparing manga sales to LN sales is plain retarded.
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>It sells good because it sells better than generic harem LN's that are complete failures

That's not how it works.
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>>138933220
>I'll be an asshole on the internet for no reason

That's how it works.
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Someone make a new thread.
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>>138933164
>nobody cares about the manga
>last volume did 250k

Okay.
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>>138933049
The studio got low on resources because they spent their effort on another anime that flopped hard.
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>>138933425
On what garbage did they spend the budget?
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>>138920254
Otakus have a very short attention span. They're constantly moving to the next big thing on Akihabara. Meanwhile, fujos are a very loyal audience. They may make less bucks than the male otakus but they're a safer invessment
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>>138933631
Fujoshit apologist pls go and stay go
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>>138933631
>hey may make less bucks than the male otakus but they're a safer invessment
I wouldn't say that, Utapri sells like cakes and is only trumped by rare hits like Love Live and Madokashit.
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>>138933631
>Otakus have a very short attention span

That's why Touhou died years ago right?
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>>138933164
Doesn't the Railgun manga sell really well if only because of infrequent releases of volumes? The anime is another thing entirely, of course.
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man, the anime was shit.
worst ecchi
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>>138933294
>LN sales =/= Manga sales
>not caring =/= not selling
and
>selling =/= good
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