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Is Togashi's biggest flaw with HxH the fact he doesn't foreshadow big revelations at all sometimes?
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>>138867015
Chrollo > Kurashita
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No, the biggest flaw is the shitty ending for every single arc.
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>>138867244
why?
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>>138867244

>muh climax.
>i need to cum NOW
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Alright guys, pick a cute girl to fuck.
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>>138867986
All terrible
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>>138867015
His biggest flaw is slacking off. Poor foreshadowing I can easily forgive if his work ethics weren't so disrespectful

Why doesn't he just move to jump SQ or something?
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>>138867986
best
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>>138870276
Because stubbornness.
That's why I'm not that excited for it to come back, but I'm interested in new HxH material
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>>138867986
Togashi draws some delicious women.
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>>138870276
>>138870390
I can understand if it's the editorial's decision to keep him as a sales booster every now and again. But if they're willing to go as far as to give him a permanent part time spit on their line up, surely they can be flexible and have his chapters switch back and forth between weekly and square as needed
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>>138870390
Yeah and to add salt to the injury he is making those big ass talking globes now so he has to draw less, making the characters speak useless redundant lines, just look at the huge ass political shit from the last chapter
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>>138867986
Paris.
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Killua is cute!
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>>138867986
>No Bisky
>No Palm
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>>138867986
Wait,the elf is a girl?
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>>138871273
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>>138867015
>Art is shit and on top of that inconsistently shit and even when he tries its meh at best
>Every arc ends with an anti-climax
>Lack of foreshadowing so it feels like he's making shit up as he goes along
And don't think Togashi is above asspulls and other bullshit because he will skip battles and do anything to not actually draw. Really hope HxHfags don't expect all the plot points to be wrapped up.
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>>138870618
I would prefer to get that shit out of the way before we get on the boat but I seriously doubt it would end there.
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>>138871790
>Art is shit
Nice meme.
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>>138871790
The paneling makes the art in my opinion and I much prefer it to whatever generic artstyle most manga goes for.
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I can see where the Tokyo Ghoul artist got his influence from.
Also I don’t really care if Togashi doesn't stay that long since that series kinda provided my HxH fix over the past year.
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>>138872146
>I can see where the Tokyo Ghoul artist got his influence from.
Too bad he can't draw a good fight like Togashi.
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>>138872025
His composition and paneling is really good
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>>138867015
>MC grows up without his father
>excited to meet his father
>goes on a life changing adventure with his friends to find his father
>goes through hell to get to him
>finally meets his father on one of the most unique locations of the world
>he's a flat earther hobo
This series is weird.
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>>138872207
You're not wrong.
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>>138872374
If only his art was more detailed and consistent
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>>138872422
you have to take the scans in consideration though, I remember seeing some comparisons between different teams and it makes a huge difference
can't find them though
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>>138872607
The volume art is pretty nice to look at, I even like "bad" pages like this one.
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My biggest issue with HxH that made me drop it before volume 8 was the amount of times he went on and on explaining something.

It got annoying.

Coupled with me not caring about anything, I had to stop. I don't know if HxH is good or bad but I certainly don't like it.

I find it weird how Gon won't kill people but he's friends with Killua.
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>>138872592
More detailed doesnt always mean better looking but I see what you mean
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>>138873668
So he should kill people because he's friends with people who kill?
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>>138873917
That

no, idiot

Why would that be the conclusion you drew from my post?
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>>138873668
that's like saying people who don't smoke should hate people that smoke

>>138873986
your wording is fucking retarded , maybe that's why
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Lack of foreshadowing? Sounds like a retarded way to mention that some things aren't foreshadowed. DC was hinted at on the first fucking page.

>>138873668
>I find it weird how Gon won't kill people but he's friends with Killua.
Gon is a generally nice person and Killua makes an effort to stop that, but you should keep in mind that you're probably projecting generic protagonist concerns onto Gon. You probably didn't reach the part where Zepile explains Gon's mindset.
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>>138872025
Togashi's been very inventive with his page layouts since the first chapter of YYH.
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>>138874010
>>your wording is fucking retarded , maybe that's why
Don't try to blame me for the fact that you're a moron, moron.

For fuck's sake, seriously.

>>138874010
No it fucking isn't. We're talking about murder, here, and Killua straight up murders people just because. At least at the start.
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>>138874013
>you're probably projecting generic protagonist concerns onto
No, I literally just find it odd that someone who apparently has issues with taking life suddenly doesn't when his best friend does it.

There's probably a reason for it, yes, but that doesn't stop it from being hypocritical and weird.
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>>138874091
No, anon, your wording was awful and you don't have to act so childish for being called out on it.
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>>138874144
Gon will kill if the situation calls for it. Killua never mindlessly slaughtered individuals in front of Gon or anything.
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I wish he would just sell the artistic rights and have someone else takeover drawing while he continues to give story direction. It might be shit and I'm sure everyone would complain but at least the story would end and I can get on with my life.

>>138872422
>literally teleporting behind someone and giving them the nothing personal line
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>>138874236
Anon, really.

You can't just call people stupid when people notice that you're being stupid.

>I find it weird how Gon won't kill people but he's friends with Killua.
Does not imply "Gon should kill people", it implies "why is a person who basically vows to not take life friends with a wanton killer".
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>>138874245
From what I've read Gon literally only killed one person in the entire series after lots and lots of provocation.
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>>138874324
>why is a person who basically vows to not take life
What the fuck? This literally never happened. I can't believe you're calling other people stupid.
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>>138874369
Very few opportunities presented themselves, but in one of them he tried and failed to kill someone and in the other he decided not to because the person survived his attack and they already won. Again, Killua wasn't killing people unprovoked or anything.
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>>138874456
He seemed pretty serious about not killing from what I read.

I read quite a bit of it, sorry if that upsets you. This is my impression of his character after 60 chapters so he had plenty of time to establish himself as "pretty happy, but somewhat off protagonist who explicitly never kills despite many around him killing people and his life being threatened quite a bit"
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>>138874548
Yeah man, like I said, you read Gon wrong and projected a few protagonist tropes onto him. It's entirely your call if you don't like the manga and long-winded exposition is a good reason to drop it if you aren't into that. I'm just clarifying that Gon has no specified qualms about that whatsoever and most people who end up thinking like that also tend to think that Gon is a complete dumbass or completely selfless because that's another shonen protagonist trait.
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>>138874702
I don't think I read him "wrong", I think if that's the case Togashi seemed to take his sweet time actually showing that because pretty much nothing indicated otherwise. The only "creepy" things about Gon in what I read were his fearlessness and single mindedness.
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>>138874801
did you forget that he took advantage of somebody's death to get hisoka's plate?
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>>138874936
Was that during the Hunter exam? I don't remember that clearly, were those numbers on plates?

I straight up don't remember what you're talking about in any case so I definitely forgot if it happened then.

In any case I wouldn't see that as something going against his character since he witnessed Killua taking out a guy's heart and didn't say anything about it.
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>>138867015
Exposition x Exposition
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>>138875022
>In any case I wouldn't see that as something going against his character since he witnessed Killua taking out a guy's heart and didn't say anything about it.
Yeah idk what this guy's going on about. Togashi has zero need to justify traits he never implied in the first. And if anything, Gon's "real" personality is setup for the CA arc twist.
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>>138867015
Maybe. I consider the biggest flaw of HxH to be Alluka and the magical bullshit which retrospectively ruined touching conclusion of Chimera Ant Arc. Honestly, it should go in a way that Ging meets Gon at his deathbed thus Gon meeting his father but in a way that means complete loss of Gon. Then Gon would die in his hospital bed and the story would move on without him everyone coping with his loss as seemingly happy child could ruin himself so easily because of something like hatred.

>>138870276
> His biggest flaw is slacking off.
Read the manga by volumes, not by chapters. Pacing is fine.
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>>138874324
It's nothing but your own delusions. Gon never was like this. He has no problems with killing, teams up with murderers and even considered cannibal as a teacher once.

Now fuck off.
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Kurapika is a really pretty girl.
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>>138867015
>big revelations
Something we know very little about from someone we don't know yet? He's still in the process of introducing us to the dark continent scenario, and this is part of the development. If anything the foreshadowing starts now
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>>138877284
Good point wouldn't have thought of it from that angle.
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>>138876895
Gon's a hunter, kills a part of they do, he still has a heart and it breaks like hearts are want to do
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Skimping through some chapters and I found this page, I guess Cheadle might die this arc.
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It wouldn't be too surprising, but two consecutive dead chairmen would look bad.
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>>138874801
gon's character is meant to misdirect you at first, and as other anon said, make the reader associate typical shonen mc traits with gon before the rest of his character has been revealed, where you start to learn just how different a mindset gon has from a normal child. I believe this to be most of the reason gon was and has remained young throughout the series. it's entirely up to you, but I think that because of how you seem to view gon from your posts, it would be much more interesting learning the rest of his character and the actions he makes later on.
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>>138872025
>generic artstyle
His designs are the very definition of generic, all the Zodiacs have shit designs.
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>>138872146
>Ghoulfag
>actually thinking TG has good art let alobe good paneling
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Togashi announced we will be shocked, after the previous hiatus stopped, so we are expecting someone to just pop up dead in the next 2-3 chapters
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>>138867015
As everyone has stated the art is one of its biggest setbacks also Gon isn't much of a character and you can tell Togashi is more interested in the ensemble cast than him given how the Chimera Ants arc became the Adventures of Ikago as it went on. The story doesn't really seem to have much of a focus and could pratically go on forever with the way Togashi does his arcs which aren't interconnected with one another and are more like exerts between one another ultimately leading to the bigger picture. As far as anything is concerned Gon has finished his quest and there's not much for him to contribute to the story same with Killua.
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>>138880572
True but there's a sense of "belongness" with the Zodiacs and some of them are genuinely great like Chrollo.
>>138880682
It's okay.
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>>138873668
Gon threatens to kill a blind girl at one point, you're making a premature judgement of his character. The story goes on to show how amoral he can be and explicitly points it out at times.
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>>138881014
>Gon isn't much of a character and you can tell Togashi is more interested in the ensemble cast than him
Yeah, HxH is my go to example of a story where the supporting characters own more of my interest than the main character.
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>>138881038
If I can say one thing about the designs they're definitely Togashi's and fit the "do anything" style of the manga.
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>>138870915
>implying he missed my heart
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>>138881177
And that's actually a good thing at times. Too many shounen are dependent on what the main character does that it doesn't give the world and its cast time to grow itself, in HxH pretty much everyone is a MC and are vastly more interesting to follow than Gon himself and his actions are so inconsequential that if he were to die the story would continue on the same path much like life itself. The only arc in which Gon fights "the main bad guy" is GI everywhere else he's not even in the same direction as the bad guy which is what I really like about this series its one of the very few pieces of fiction that knows how to handle a ensemble cast.
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>>138881521
I completely agree.
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>>138867015
Yeah, it probably is actually, or to put it more broadly he focuses much more on the details than the 'big picture'. It's good that he's so thorough on minor aspects of the series, but he drops the ball a bit on things like long term planning, foreshadowing and world building. There's little consistency between arcs, which keeps it interesting but also shows that he just writes whatever interesting idea comes to him as he goes.

His art is only a big flaw in the sense that his bad reputation stops people reading the manga. They'd rather believe memes than think for themselves and make fair judgements, since it's usually on the same level as most Jump series. And, more importantly, no matter how lazy or sick he gets, he still has the ability to convey a scene effectively through good page layouts. He's a veteran and it shows in how well he can compose an emotional or meaningful moment, I never felt things as strongly with the anime.
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>>138867015
Threadly reminder https://twolongfourtwitlonger.wordpress.com/2014/12/21/hxh-99-hxh-2011-btw/
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do you guys think that this arc will be as long as chimera ants? i'm expecting to be like york shin or hunter exam, i think the next will be more longer.
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>>138882281
Let's see if it would take 2 months on the boat to reach the Dark Continent and it's unlikely Togashi would do a timeskip as there are the princes, then that's a mini arc right there.
And then there's Beyond, Ging, Pariston, the Zodiacs on the Dark Continent which would be the full arc. I would say as long as Chimera Arc as there was NGL, Build-up to the invasion, then invasion.
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>>138882281
>next
>implying this isn't his chance to end it once and for all so he doesn't have to worry about it
it's not like he shows a lot of love for his own series
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>>138874280
>literally teleporting
He's not teleporting.
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>>138867986
I just don't know what it is
There's something about the way Togashi's female designs that make them all so top.
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>>138880572
Nah, only Saiyu and Ginta have bad designs.
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>>138881014
>Gon isn't much of a character
This is just bullshit. Gon is chock full of depth and nuance.
>As far as anything is concerned Gon has finished his quest and there's not much for him to contribute to the story
Also bullshit, you retarded animefag.
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>>138884122
they are diverse and just your moe blob #16721412467 or your perfect generic japanese cartoon woman #613125161412516143212324
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>>138884497
not just*
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>>138884478
>Gon is chock full of depth and nuance.
Let me guess, you're one of those "Gon is a sociopath" Chimera Ant Babbies.
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>>138884478
>Gon is chock full of depth and nuance.
Nice headcannon but no none of the cast are particularly deep, all people do is wank off to Gon threatening to kill somebody in a time of crisis where he was at his absolute worst but as soon as it ended he's back to normal like nothing happened. He doesn't have much to him mainly because he's a fairly static character.

>Also bullshit,
His goal was to meet Ging, he met him, done. He doesn't want to be strongest Hunter or king of the Hunters he's an opportunist that'll jump on to any new thing and he doesn't have anything to contribute to the current storyline because its not about him.
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>>138884183
Cheadle is literally just dog girl the rest are "insert animal" + human. Incredibly uninspired.
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>>138884963
Nice headcanon, but immediately after being healed he felt regret and knew he fucked up, apologized to the people he felt that he wronged accordingly, and recent chapters show him reflecting on his meeting with Ging.

>His goal was to meet Ging, he met him, done.
Reaching his original goal doesn't mean his story is over. He even admitted that finding Ging wasn't as important as the adventure. He also still has more growth to go through, and he's tied to the inevitable Gyro arc.
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>>138885635
>he felt bad
So you proved my point in that it was nothing and didn't add any depth to his character nor was apart of his characterization to begin with. Cheers.

>Reaching his original goal doesn't mean his story is over.

But it is, everything else after this will be supplementary and won't be hugely relevant to the story. He doesn't have any particular goals in mind and will just hop on to the next opportunity to go on an adventure when the time comes.
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>>138867015
More like his health is his biggest flaw. The man needs to start eating a balanced diet before we can keep discussing HxH without beating a dead horse
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>>138886025
The way you argue makes it obvious you'll dismiss anything no matter what anons argue. What is nuance if it's not showing different facets of a character's personality and the way it develops? We see snippets of Gon's less appealing traits throughout the series (hypocrisy, selfishness, generally being too willing to let himself be injured) along with with his positive traits (determination, loyalty, optimism), then they culminate in the way shit hit the fan in CA arc, and then we see the fall out from it as he acknowledges his own flaws. Do you expect NGE tier depth or something?

And the existence of unresolved plotlines proves his story isn't over, not to mention it's reiterared that it's about the journey rather than the destination. Killua didn't have a goal either at first, and that just facilitated character growth. Same thing can happen for Gon if he's directionless right now.
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>>138886025
Are you being retarded deliberately?
The ability to understand and learn from your mistakes absolutely adds depth to character. This is part of the growth process, as Gon resolves to handle things better next time.

>But it is, everything else after this will be supplementary and won't be hugely relevant to the story.
Yes, because being linked to the future villain has no huge relevance at all.
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>>138886491
>The ability to understand and learn from your mistakes absolutely adds depth to character.
No it doesn't and you have no clue what character depth entails.
>being linked to the future villain
Once again headcannon
>>138886474
>What is nuance if it's not showing different facets of a character's personality and the way it develops?
Problem is that none of these facets are highlighted or dealt further into they're just traits of a character until then.

>then they culminate in the way shit hit the fan in CA arc, and then we see the fall out from it as he acknowledges his own flaws.
The problem is the former don't correlate to that at all, shit blew up in his face and all throughout the arc is him adjusting to his very weakness, taking matters into his own hand and then losing control and the ultimate lesson come from girl Kite herself when he confronts her which has nothing to do with him being a sociopath that's headcannon from idiots who missed the point of Gons arc during that time, it doesn't add depth to him because Gon has always struggled with weakness (the Hunter Exam arc) rather than the shit you just spouted. The only character in HxH who has any layer of depth is Killua and we do see him change throughout the course of the story not so much Gon.

>unresolved plotlines
What plotlines? He only wants to get his Nen back now and that's about it. The shit with the DC has nothing to do with him nor does the shit with the Spiders, he'll more or less join future plotlines as a supporting character but unless Togashi creates another random plotline for him he's done.
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>>138888211
>no, you don't know anything
>gyro is headcanon
At this point you're just arguing for the sake of it and haven't even read the manga.
>Problem is that none of these facets are highlighted or dealt further into they're just traits of a character until then.
Okay, thanks for making it perfectly clear that you've no idea what you're talking about. All of these facets were highlighted by characters all throughout every arc which led to the CA arc.

>sociopath
What are you blabbering about here? Nobody is calling Gon a sociopath.
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>>138888601
>Gyro
Togashi hasn't done shit with him yet
>All of these facets were highlighted by characters all throughout every arc which led to the CA arc.
Wrong on all accounts dumbfuck
>Nobody is calling Gon a sociopath.
Do try to keep up dear
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>>138888747
>Togashi hasn't done shit with him yet
Nice moving goalposts.
>Wrong on all accounts dumbfuck
Reread the manga. Hisoka, Nobunaga, and Wing see great potential in him. Zepile, Bisky, Kite and Meleoron all remark the way he thinks is dangerous. He made Genthru outright shit himself.
>Do try to keep up dear
You're the only one who mentioned sociopathy.
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>>138888211
>highlighted or dealt further into they're just traits of a character until then.
How the fuck would we even know those traits exist unless they're highlighted?
>, it doesn't add depth to him because Gon has always struggled with weakness (the Hunter Exam arc)
So what, that's not depth because it wasn't new?

You have some fucking bizarre idea of how character traits are supposed to be conveyed and how development is executed. It doesn't need to mean he changes a lot, it can mean the audience comes to understand him better and see different sides of him.
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>>138867015

>it's literally been said that ging's father was a fisherman who got on a boat and sailed off somewhere
>not hinted at

the thing is, the people who read this series constantly forget shit.
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even in a visual medium, story will always be more important than art.

that's why most mangaka are subpar artist.
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Is mangastream gonna translate the new chapter?
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>>138888981
>Nice moving goalposts.
Nice not proving a point
>Hisoka, Nobunaga, and Wing see great potential in him.
He's the MC
>Zepile, Bisky, Kite and Meleoron all remark the way he thinks is dangerous.
Had nothing to do with sociopaths nor his arc
>Genthru
Irrelevant arc villian
>>138889083
>How the fuck would we even know those traits exist unless they're highlighted?
A character doesn't have to bring up hiw a character is feeling in a manga
>This is spelled out to you
This means he has depth
By your stupid logic all the characters in FT have depth.
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>>138889497
>even in a visual medium, story will always be more important than art.
Found the retard
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>>138889599
Unfortunately, yes
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>>138889714
The point is that his story isn't over because there's still unresolved plot points regarding him you retard.
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>>138889745

have you read air gear? the art doesn't make up for the story.
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>>138889907
>responding

he's baiting for attention at this point and has no arguments
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>>138890006
Would you fuck a cluck?
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>>138890158
cluck is pure
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>>138890340
Her earrings and necklace are birds from far away

Holy fuck I just noticed this
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>>138889714
I never used 'logic' to claim Gon has depth, I used specific examples of different traits and subsequent development to show that he has nuance. You're the one making weird, nonsensical generalisations about what can and cannot be considered depth.
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>>138867015
shitxshit is shit, you shit.
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>>138870915
>Killua is cute!
worst character in the series
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Machi is best girl, prove me wrong
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>>138892605
I like Bisky.
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>>138892605
uggo
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>>138891213
BASED
A
S
E
D
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>>138891213

>beyond's team getting sucked into ging's pace
>pariston can't help but smile
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Who do you want as bodyguards?
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>>138892970
Ging and Pariston
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>>138892970
Nobunaga
Machi
Illumi
Hisoka
Chrollo
Shalnark
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>>138893399
Hisoka and Illumi vs the Spiders would be really interesting.
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>>138892605
Not even second best
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>>138893481
Pakunoda was too good for this series
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>>138893481
Get that disgusting creature away from Paku
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Crappy-ka is worst boy.
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>>138881351
>implying you have a heart
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Why do all of the Princes look like jobbers except for Benjamin, Tserriednich and baby?
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>>138893765
That Luzurus dude looks like a good opponent.
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>>138892970
Pika is so cute
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Post your face when we get a new season of HxH anime and YOU JUST TRY AGAAAAAAIN
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>>138893878
>Luzurus
I think he's fucked unless he can hire someone strong.
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>>138894090
kill yourself
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>>138893765
>Benjamin
This is going to become another Rape Guy.
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>>138893765
>Implying my man Halkenburg won't come on top.

C'mon now.
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>>138867986
How do you go from this
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>>138894356
to this
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>>138894118
Just why?
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>>138894394
Old age
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>>138867015

>muh darkness
>muh explanations
>muh deepness
>muh sausage-fest
>muh super 12 year olds that beat adults

It's like if someone who is autistic tries too hard to make something cool.
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>>138894356
Zzigg Zoldyck is cute.

I hope he's still alive.
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>>138894604
the only time Gon beat an adult was Genthru and that retard in the tower and the former required him to follow a plan thought up by a 50 year old
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>>138894708

Killua beats adults all the time.
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What are your predictions about princesses?

Is Tserriednich into incest? Does he want to brutally kill his sisters?
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>>138894756
>>138894708
They beat fodder adults who aren't hunters or don't have nen, but by battle shounen standards they're very underpowered.
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>>138867986
I want to fuq this pup
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>>138894837
I bet Momoze is a trap.
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>>138894837
No idea. I would have to see them characterized before making guesses.
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>>138872146

Shit, I looked at the pic before reading the shitpost attached to it. The first thing I thought of was "man Edgy Ghoul's artist should really get some pointers from Togashi." Then I read this rubbish...

>I can see where the Tokyo Ghoul artist got his influence from.

TG's biggest fault is how god awful the author is at drawing fights. You can't tell what the fuck is going on.
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>>138894940
I bet they're all traps
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>>138872387
How the fuck didn't he see his dad on the fucking news or something

>>138867015
absolutely, this dark continent shit came out of literally nowhere.
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>>138894888
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>>138895198
Beyond is such an asspull
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>>138894888
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>>138892970
Hisoka and Machi
Also Nobunaga, I don't like him but it would be interesting
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>>138892970
they're all probably new characters
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>>138894837
What interests me the most is how princes who share the same mother would deal with this survival game.

Would Momoze try to kill her own little brother? What is the relationship between Seiko's daughters?
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YFW Gon turns out to be the main villain and Killua must kill him
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>>138895010
That shit poster here- He has the artistic chops but he can't make the blows look as impactful or choreography as great as Togashi.
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>>138896149
All I see is a Kuundere, spoiled brat, regular brat, and drills.
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>>138896149
I doubt all the princes are participating.
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>>138896582
All I see are sleeves for my cock.
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>>138897770
That's quite a range you got going on there my man.
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>>138897883
A man must not be picky of what and where he sticks his meat in.
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so, except for aluka (the most controversial example), what other asspulls the series have?
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>>138898161
Literally all of it.
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>>138898290
I'm sure you pulled that out of your ass.
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>>138898161
killua recognizing Dragon Dive
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>>138898545
That's more like an oversight, it makes more sense that he'd recognise his family's abilities than not knowing what nen was at first.
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>>138898666
you can't see nen unless you have nen or it's a conjuration ability. Dragon dive is clearly emission.
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>>138898986
Even so, that's just an oversight. Basically just forgetting the rules rather than intentionally disregarding them or creating new ones as an asspull would.
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