Askin is kill, Nel to the rescue, and meanwhile, everyone has gathered for a Yammy 2.0 fight. See pic related for my reaction. Is Kubo going to see the Thor fight through? Or are we switching to a different scene yet again?
knowing Kubo, he's going to finish the Giant fight right now, not showing the rescue, and putting some scenes of what the rest of the people are doing.
when manga is predictable is pretty much dead already.
There are also people that believe in IchiHime right now.
She's up and about somewhere. They planned to leave Gerard behind and advance to Yhwach, after all.
I want to see her, but I'm afraid that something bad will happen to her though. feeling so complicated
she's going to be burned alive by old man yama's bankai that ywach has. calling it.
think about it. ywach boasted about how frail he was for caring about pride of fights. ywach has no pride and will crush everyone around ichigo just to push him. he pointed out how he won't even kill him after his mom died, so he's gunning to provoke his ass, and with two bankais, soul king jizz, and the almighty, there's no way he'll fail at roasting her in front of him.
>I just noticed that Bleach is selling more than Fairy Tail again
>Why Bleach is so ignored?
Bleach has no anime, only receives color pages during its anniversary, is always at the bottom of the Jump TOC. Bleach is pretty much receiving the treatment of manga about to be axed, it just isn't actually axed.
They look very different from Shuutara's statues. It could be possibly BG9, who's controlling them. And if Kubo wants to give both Chad and Ganju someone to loose against, he could reveal that Cang Du somehow survived and is with BG9
He did show his bankai at the end of fb arc He got another, supposedly massive poverup and didn't show bankai after that though
For the rest, you better read manga. It's shit, but fun if you read it ll at once
Don't mind me, just the best character in the manga coming through.
Gremmy could be easily defeated with someone fast enough.
During his fight with zaraki he complained that he is not keeping up with healing from injuries.
So if someone was fast enough to just cut head right away, fight would be over.
they probably cut a deal with kubo, they will give bleach almost no advertisement or new animation until it's nearing it end, but in return kubo can take as long as he want making the final arc.
How about the panel where he lying and said, that he can die now. Or when Rangiku said he's dead. Or where the databook said, he's dead.
So now show me where it's stated BG9 and Cang Du are dead.
Daily reminder Shunsui is a turbocuck.
Shunsui vs Chad - admitted he would be in trouble if he got hit by an attack from Chad. From Chad!
Shunsui vs Starrk - got hit head-on by a Cero, only winning with a stealth attack. Got help from Ukitake at multiple instances. Never got to fight with Starrks wolves, his strongest technique.
Starrk vs Grimaniel - lost his eye against a Quincy that Byakuya off-screened.
Starrk vs Haschwalth - got his sorry ass protected by Nanao, until Haschwalth fled.
Starrk vs Lille Barro - got his sorry ass protected by Nanao, until Lille turned into flamingo burds that got finished off by Izuru "Burdslayer" Kira.
I would bring them back, so they can be one of the few surviving Sternritter. SInce this is Chad, he won't kill them, so they can have a role beyond day two and in the next invasion. I would also like to know, how BG9 can be a robot.
>Ywach fighting Ichigo
>Ywach uses Yama's bankai
>gets to the phase where dead are brought back
>one of the undead is Yama himself
>due to some asspull, undead Yama has his own consciousness and reobtains his bankai
>Yama and Ichigo team up to fight Ywach
>Yama can only exist for as long as his bankai is still present, once all his energy is used up him and his banka will cease to be
How can orange-haired cowtits Ichigo-drones even compete?
>Forces enemy to crush his eardrums
Most useless Bankai in history?
>Nearing the endgame
>Aizen still hasn't mad his power-play
Its the main reason to keep reading
anyone know where i can get pic related from ?
I wouldn't count on Yoruichi's. As for Aizen I'm still hoping Kyouka Suigetsu will turn out to be bankai, not shikai. Because lies.
Whoops, did some research, didn't realize it has been revealed, what about Isshin's though?
Haven't kept up with the series, I honestly thought we would be forever in the dark.
those complaining about Yammy 2.0 are 1st level readers. You have to understand Kubo is playing with your expectations, he has recycled mr big's power and put the same guys against him + hitsugay. He wants you to think it will play out the same like always, and he knows his invested readers will be angry at this, but if you expect kubo to pull his usual schtick in this situation, then what would the most unexpected thing to do be? of course that would be to make it end just like yammy, the most obvious is the most unexpected, but only if you know Kubo.
The origin story of the Soul King, Soul Society, Yhwach and the Quincy is already more interesting and complex, than the origin story turned out to be. It's morally also more complex, with many genuiely wondering if Yhwach is actually the true enemy and not someone else or even the Shinigami.
>no attention other than the back pages of Shonen Jump
the volume sales are more important but an anime boost would be nice right about now
Ichigo completely fused all his powers now. Hollow Ichigo, Old Man Zangetsu who was actually his Quincy powers, are both kinda absorbed into him now.
So right now his power is pretty much post-Dangai + properly realized Quincy powers which makes it stable and gives him dual wielding.
It's possible that when he uses Bankai/Mugetsu 2.0/whatever it'll have some Hollow elements to it which would be pretty cool.
All the old captains are pretty much jobbers, including Yama whose only redeeming point was being king of the jobbers.
It's a shonen manga, so the old generation naturally has to wither away to make way for the new sprouts so to speak. Oldfags can never keep up with the 'golden generation' that the MC belongs to.
But Bleachfags will naturally end up sucking the dick of their favorite character regardless of how obvious shonen manga tropes are in the series, citing quotes and headcanon interpretations instead of simply looking at the results, cause those characters are practically the entire reason they are still following this ink spill to begin with.
Pic related has more chance to happen than Ichiruki
You are mistaken about the nature of his power lock.
He didn't lock his power because it was over, let's say, 1000 kenpachis (official Bleach power level unit) and had to keep it below that.
He locked it because he had more kenpachis than Unohana and if she died by his hand he wouldn't have anyone to enjoy battling.
Time passes, shit goes down.
She then proceeds to kill and revive him time and again, until he is able to let go of this sentiment and lift the limit he placed on himself.
From that point onward he had his full power at his disposal. Whether he used it to 100% or not remains to be seen (probably not), but being knocked the fuck out and returning doesn't grant him boost any longer.
>tfw Rukia is the only reason you read Bleach
>tfw Rukia has been your waifu for a decade
Why doesn't Kubo give her more screentime? She's the most popular Shinigami.
Anon, please do some research before you speak. Rukia beat Hitsugaya in both Zanpakuto and character popularity a few months ago.
Zanpakuto Popularity 1-10
1. Sode no Shirayuki
5. Ruri'iro Kujaku / Fuji Kujaku & Kazeshini
6. Katen Kyoukotsu
7. Kyouka Suigetsu
10. Sougyou no Kotowari
13 Blades Character Popularity 1-10
1. Rukia Kuchiki
2. Toushirou Hitsugaya
3. Byakuya Kuchiki
4. Gin Ichimaru
5. Kenpachi Zaraki
6. Renji Abarai
7. Shuuhei Hisagi
8. Yumichika Ayasegawa
9. Juushirou Ukitake
10. Shunsui Kyouraku
The poll was for the Gotei 13 only, Ichigo wasn't included. He's usually near the top with Toshiro and Rukia.
You look creepy with that huge penis.
Don't be salty anon. You all were at peace with the inevitable lose of Orihime until Naruto ended and gave you a glimpse of hope. Embrace your idefeat, anon. Make friends with it.
It's a red herring anon.
Kubo has reduced Rukias appearance in the story so we think she's unimportant.
But soon BAM! He's going to pull out some ridiculous bullshit that will make her integral to the defeat of Yhwach.
The fallout on /a/ will be magnificent.
>The fallout on /a/
Half the posters here are rampant IchiRuki shitposters and almost everyone likes Rukia to some extent.
But no she won't be integral to beating Yhwach. She'll be important as far as helping Ichigo but that's not necessarily the same thing.
Not nearly as much as in theories regarding Orihime. In Rukia's case there is the proof that she will play important role, while Orihimefags need all their imagination to make her special. Too bad she didn't do shit yet
D E L U S I O N A L
>rukiafags are actually this delusional
Yhwach is in another fucking tier. I don't know why anyone thinks any conventional rules can possible be applied to him. He can, and probably will, wave his hand and nullify Rukia's bankai. Notice how Rukia wasn't a SWP. That means Yhwach can see any future involving her and anything she might do.
Rukia is probably going to be reduced to a motivator, as she has been in the past. And the longer this goes on the more I have doubts about Yhwach actually being the final boss and him being an enemy at all.
I just hope Rukia doesn't get a random powerup in order to keep up with Ichigo and Yhwach. I'm fine with Rukia and Orihime coming together to support Ichigo, but I really don't want either to receive a shit powerup.
>Hyourinmaru is number three
>above Shinsou and Katen Kyoukotsu
>Ryujin Jakka not on the list
She isnt an swp, but Ichigo is. Yhwach cant see whatever effect she will have on him. Combined with uraharas deus ex shenanigans, it could be anything. But yeah, she will probably have a supporting role.
Would be funny.
Dude, chill. Its okay.
All we know at this point is that Ichigo and Orihime are going to fight Yhwach together. We don't know if that'll even happen, that's what we know now.
We also know that Urahara used dying breath to say Ichigo and Rukia. That's all we know.
Rukia countering Zanka no Tachi sounds perfectly plausible, why are people shitting on that theory? It's far from the most baseless or delusional theory Bleach readers have come up with.
It's all about reiatsu powerlevels, and Rukia isn't even close to Yamamoto. Old man genocide is a reiatsu beast, he can crush vice captains with his mere presence and his bankai can destroy soul society if he just leaves it "on" for too long.
Rukia's powerful, but she'd get destroyed instantly
>Renji fodderized Mask yet was struggling with bazz b, he's a joke.
Renji wasn't struggling; it was even and Bazz-B was using Vollstandig. Also Bazz-B was one of the strongest non-elites.
It's only plausible because Kubo's a shitty writer and literally wrote in an all-knowing, omnipotent being with the ability to completely nullify any ability he understands.
There's realistically no way someone who can see the future can be surprised and if she Bankais in his presence then he should be able to just fucking turn it off. Not to mention Rukia is so far down on the powerscale that she should be crushed by Yhwach's reiatsu in general, the thought of any of her abilities being able to "counter" the strongest entity in Bleach thus far is laughable considering she couldn't even move without killing herself with Bankai last time.
I don't really buy into the whole "reiatsu is the only thing that matters" deal. I think Kubo could easily write a way for Rukia to counter Zanka no Tachi. Honestly though, I don't even see why Ywach would use Zanka no Tachi in the first place. He's too OP to even need it.
Rukia isn't that far down the powerscale anymore anon. She's captain level, she's not going to collapse under high reiatsu levels like Nanao did with Yamamoto during the SS arc. To be fair though, Ywach is so bullshit that I can't picture anyone being able to fight him. I have no idea how Ichigo is supposed to do anything against him.
>I think Kubo could easily write a way
That's irrelevant, Kubo can write whatever he wants.
Reiatsu is the only thing that matters, though. See how Aizen resisted to attacks that should've killed him.
I dont think you understand how this works. Even with his bankai (it might have died with yama) he doesnt have the same reiatsu tanks as yama, because quincy. Besides, she only needs to give an opening.
Because it was Rukiafags that spew shit like that on daily basis since the hm arc
It's obvious that Bleach readers forget why Yhwach is invincible. There's literally no way the Quincies could lose.Even if Yhwach is sleeping Jugo has the Almighty; Jugo saw through Aizen's whole time deception thing.
I'm not sure what you're implying here. Yhwach definitely has serious fucking reiatsu and is AT LEAST comparable to Yamamoto if not far surpassing that now that he's not only regained all the fractured parts of his soul he gave the SR but also absorbed Mimihagi and the goddamned Soul King. Yhwach explicitly says only he had the power to wield ZnT, which implies he was of a similar level to Yamamoto with all 26 SR still alive and he hadn't even touched the Royal Realm yet.
I had forgotten that scene. Bummer.
In any case, Rukia got used to Soul Kings reiatsu in the Rr, and none of ichigos friends were affected by yhwach either. So come on. You're being too harsh on her.
Yes, yes. Now be quiet, don't make people upset.
I've noticed a plothole, or inconsistency of sorts in regards to Yhwach's plans for future invasions.
Askin claims that Yhwach intends to simply tear down and rebuild the realms as he sees fit. But then why did he make the Sun Gate whose sole purpose is to create a path to the world of the living to invade it?
Was it the Sun Gate Ebern used when he appeared in front of Ichigo and co? Are all plans of real world invasion called off?
My bet is that he isn't planning to tear down the real world but rather will collapse the other worlds into it, which will put things back to the way they were before the Soul King.
Alternatively Kubo is making it up as he goes along.
So he collapses the spiritual realms onto the existing world of the living and creates a perfect world for quincies? I can dig that. Would give Ichigo and excuse to show off to all his normie human friends.
There are a lot of things about Yhwach and his plans that are inconsistent or flat out contradictory
Yhwach makes the same claim as Aizen, that everything has been part of his plan and Ichigo has only been doing his bidding the entire time, so there's no reason to force him to his side.
Yet he was fully prepared to force Ichigo to surrender and MAKE him join the Quincy.
Suppose that he cant modify the human world through the garganta/void. I wonder if he can even do anything there
Suppose that he still needs the connection to do that. Like VOS in the first movie.
Why though. Where are they anyway. Supposedly their kids took off and they dont give a fuck?
Education is different though. Yhwach was sure that he wouldnt need to order ichigo, so he didnt plan to. It should be a great revelation, but he doesnt give any clues... annoying.
Oh, I was poking fun at him. I guess if you want to be serious, it would be interesting to see who her parents were.
The beatings got so bad that her brother felt that she would have been killed. Who beats the shit out of a baby? To top it all off, her natural power is retarded, it'd be interesting to see what type of parents she had.
You have to keep in mind that subduing and bringing Ichigo in was a desperate measure. For whatever reason he does not want to kill Ichigo, fight Ichigo, or even be in the same realm as Ichigo. Ichigo to him is a variable he cannot predict. In one moment he says he's going to kill Ichigo, in another he says that Ichigo should come watch the end of the world with him and next he tells Ichigo to get the fuck out. If I didn't know better I'd say he was bipolar. Perhaps this too is to be blamed on The Conqueror. I honestly don't know.
At least Jugo is consistent in wanting to kill Ichigo as both The Father and The Conqueror. But then again he too is not capable of reading the future when Ichigo is present.
A couple chapter before that he tells Haschwalth that he plans to take an unconscious Ichigo to the Wandenreich and force him to join the Quincy, which is a bit different than saying "I'm going to teach him."
Then later in the same chapter of the first pic he tells Ichigo that everything he's done has been influenced by him from the start. So it was unnecessary from the start. By his own claims it's all been in preparation for Ichigo to kill the SK, which also means Ichigo reaching his full potential in the Royal Palace. Which never would have happened if Yhwach kidnapped him.
If yhwach had taken him, he could have later killed the soul king anyway. Did yhwach really mention getting trained in RR? Ichigo could've reached his full potential some other way.
I think that her brother was lying.
>Then later in the same chapter of the first pic he tells Ichigo that everything he's done has been influenced by him from the start. So it was unnecessary from the start. By his own claims it's all been in preparation for Ichigo to kill the SK, which also means Ichigo reaching his full potential in the Royal Palace. Which never would have happened if Yhwach kidnapped him.
Yhwach didn't need Ichigo to kill the Soul King. He was perfectly capable of doing it himself. He made Ichigo do it because he's a dick.
Maybe, but that would make it even more interesting. Why lie? Why run away?
Furthermore, where did he get the hairpins he gave Orihime right before his death? The hairpins that contained all of her faeries.
I imagine he was capable of killing the Soul King himself but he chose not to for a reason.
I imagine some adverse effect will come to Ichigo when he faces Yhwach. Or perhaps it has something to do with Yhwach being the technical "savior" of the realms and Ichigo the "betrayer".
He kidnapped a random baby to be his imouto. Her power manifested in the pins because feelings.
Does he mean that all quincy power is meant to kill the soul king? Ishida's warning to aizen makes sense now, by the way. He was defeated with the power of the quincy.
So did Ishida /literally/ train for seven days and seven nights with the Sanrei Glove? As in, train without sleeping?
How about a completely revamped reinterpretation of the Hueco Mundo arc?
>Orihime gets abducted by Aizen (at this point they wouldn't know it's him)
>The team goes around collecting clues and completing the puzzle of where the fuck she is
>Hitsugaya is the guy with the overview, keeping the team in check and organizing resources
>Ishida is the brains
>Grimmjow and Ichigo are the brawns
>Rukia is the token female using her charm to get information out of people
>They eventually find out that the city's biggest and most dangerous gang, The Comfy Chair and Tea Enthusiasts, are behind the abduction
>Ichigo and Grimmjow gather their old friends from their deliquent days (Renji, Chad, Kenpachi), Rukia gets her brother to help who's a smooth, ice-cold assassin
I wanna see this happen.
>Rukia goes to flirt with a gang member to extract information
>undoes a button on her shirt
>gang member gives her a flat stare
>she flirtatiously undoes another while licking her lips
>no change in the guy's demeanor
>Rukia keeps unbuttoning down her shirt with increasing irritation hoping to get a reaction
>cuts to Ichigo berating Rukia for beating the guy too badly and her reassuring herself that she doesn't look like a boy
i'm an orihimefag who doesn't believe she has to have any plot relevance whatsoever beyond saying "good luck" or whatever to ichigo before he goes to fight Yhwach.
anybody who thinks that anyone in this series beside Ichigo, Aizen, and maybe Urahara really matters is delusional.
They grow older while being healed in there. Hitsugaya is a few centimiters taller, for example, and Zaraki's hair looks longer.
Kubo should asspull something about this being equivalent to a power-up.
/a/ has always been sort of on the fence when it comes to Bleach. Pure contempt for Naruto and One Piece actually wasn't popular until /v/ started spamming it everywhere and posting generals 24/7.
about a year ago I marathoned bleach and grabbed a few dozen reaction images so I guess I'll post some for you all until we have something worth talking about
>Or Kubo can't draw for shit
Mayuri explains it just before he and Nemu enter the pods.
Next panel is him and her together in some kind of lucid dreaming (don't know if time accelerated or not).
Up to about 2009 I remember:
Serious discussion in massive Bleach threads.
Serious discussion in One Piece threads (but with a lot less posts than the Bleach one's, this pissed off many One Piece fans).
Naruto threads being saged to death (go back to Gaia, etc).
Then all went to shit, /a/ changed faster than normal, a few more things, happened and here we are.
We don't know. She's just kind of disappeared atm
1 day only date. After that they will kill you. Pick one.
Wish I could find that comic of her imitating Aizen and crushing a glasses-shaped cookie
Catnipp would probably be a hell
catin bed and seems more up to spending the date fucking. Giselle would be a close second but I think I'd want to take the lead in my last day.
Wait, what if Ichigo is the king's horse?
We don't even know where she is. She disappeared shortly after this page:
She seemingly left her uniform behind, though.
If that's what it is, then I had some weird bit of fridge brilliance, Here's my stupid theory:
She secretly is strong as fuck and has been since she was "born" in the soul society. Since she was so young, she couldn't control her power and had unwittingly released her bankai, aka Kenpachi, and he wandered about, not knowing who or what he was, met Unohana, and eventually rose to captain. Not sure how to explain her shikai.
Hopefully she makes a comeback at a critical moment to save Kenpachi with some asspu-I mean power-up, revealing the whole backstory.
Maybe her being so small is her expelling so much energy, she never grew physically or mentally, and her realizing what happened will result in something like pic relatedAgain, stupid idea, but a nice "What if".
I immediately had that thought soon after posting it.
>Well we lost Yamamoto and Ukitake
>Should have mentioned Ukitake.
I liked his backstory a lot even though it was a retcon, but all it did was piss me off because now I wish that Sasakibe didn't die. Him surviving and being healed up and then going to fuck up Quincy's with his cool ass bankai would have been awesome. Could have had an interesting plot where he lived and Yama still died. Kubo could have done so much more with him.
There are many characters dead, missing, zombified, badly injured, captured, of unknown condition or that we haven't seen in a while.
That wasn't a proper fight.
Also, Yamamoto would go bankai if he read you.
Backstory Kubo literally made up on the spot after he forgot prior events no doubt.
Like honestly, Ichigo took him out with a fucking palm-thrust in 2 seconds. You don't expect us to believe he was a Captain-class shinigami who has achieved Bankai and trained religiously for many years before most of the current captains were even born.
13 Blades Top 10 fights:
1. Renji Abarai vs. Byakuya Kuchiki
2. Rukia Kuchiki vs. Aaroniero Arruruerie
3. Rukia Kuchiki vs. Aes Noedt
4. Gin Ichimaru vs. Sousuke Aizen
5. Shunsui Kyouraku vs. Coyote Starrk
6. Kenpachi Zaraki vs. Unohana Yachiru (Retsu)
7. Sui-Feng vs. Yoruichi Shihouin
8. Yumichika Ayasegawa vs. Charlotte Chuhlhourne
9. Mayuri Kurotsuchi vs. Szayelaporro Granz
10. Toushirou Hitsugaya vs. Ichimaru Gin
All three of them were took by surprise, everything was a mess. And we don't know what his bankai was. He was very good at Kidou for example (he created the barrier at Fake Karakura Town), and he's bankai was completely unsuitable for most situations.
Why? It was a one-sided beatdown until Ichigo's hollow took over, then it was a one-sided beatdown in the other direction. Thematically it was a cool fight with a decent character but stuff like Ichigo vs Byakuya/Grimmjow will always be the best 'fights' in terms of actual combat.
We know what his bankai was, Driscoll used it against Yama, although he sucked at using it according to Yama.
He had enough time to activate his Shikai before he got btfo, he was shit.
>implying Sasakibe wasn't shit
Literally Isane tier. Captain level my ass.
Kenpachi actually got a reasonable retcon. And SS Arc Ichigo was really fucking strong even just with Shikai, he had his resolve on point. Sasakibe got dumpstered with his shikai by unarmed Ichigo, never fought again, and then got wasted off screen effortlessly by Driscoll. He was shit.
>started to randomly fall in love with Rukia
What the fuck. I was strictly only into the dyke chick Tatsumaki or whatever her name is, Ichigo's female bestie
Did you forget when Kenpachi easily shit on Tousen and Komamura during the SS arc?
Just let it happen.
Tatsuki. And if those are her preferences I'd love to pair her with Soifon.
He soloed 2 other captains, broke every other person who crossed his path, and lost to Ichigo due to the biggest asspull the series had to see to date AFTER fighting at reduced strength and having jogged around SS for 2 days straight looking for the Ryoka.
Saskibe having Bankai is unlikely, but Kubo threw in that quick "He refused to ever use it except in dire situations on Yamamoto's behalf" as an excuse why he didn't use it before. Him getting dumperstered by Ichigo had more to do with the fact with was a thin old man long past his prime, and unlike Yama he wasn't a god tier genocide engine, so he wasn't able to keep up with kids in his old age.
There are worse Retcons in Manga than the second in command of the strongest squad having Bankai.
Only Ulquiorra and above were Vasto Lordes and it took multiple captains to take on each of them, except Ulquiorra that was done in by the other strongest Hollow in the series.
Remember when the Arrancar were hyped up as ridiculously strong when Grimmjow invaded the human world with his fraccion? And then the Espada failed to win a single fight in the entire arc?
He would have gotten fodderized by old man genocide.
The SS Arc was literally GOAT, do it.
That would be the best option by far.
Mass butthurt everywhere. Shippers fighting each other while trying to prove that obviously that last panel implies they won.
Would the butthurt surpass NaruSaku?
>3. Rukia Kuchiki vs. Aes Noedt
>4. Gin Ichimaru vs. Sousuke Aizen
>10. Toushirou Hitsugaya vs. Ichimaru Gin
None of these should be in the top 10. Needs Komamura vs Tousen and at least one Ichigo fight (Byakuya, Grimmjow or Ulquiorra).
Unohana, Kenpachi, Sasakibe and Kira are all definitely dead. Ukitake is almost definitely dead, and some of the other captains that just fought are on the fence. We also haven't seen Kensei/Rose lately have we?
It's pretty simple to say that he just has a good shikai/bankai and isn't that great with an unreleased sword. Ichigo blitzed him and knocked him out with pure power before he could release anything.
That's not what retcon means.
He released his sword though, and he still got shit on. He couldn't even react to Ichigo's speed.
>That's not what retcon means.
You know what it means in that context. Kubo obviously never planned that early on for Sasakibe to be a strong fighter.
Anyone that says this didn't pay enough attention. There were only 4 vasto lordes in Aizen's army and that was close to enough. 10 would have been more than enough to wipe out SS.
Bleach was absolutely despised in 2009 at around the Deicide arc, the hate almost got as bad as it did for Naruto. This was also the same year of Whitebeard's death and when One Piece fags turned into insufferable smug cunts.
>He released his sword though, and he still got shit on. He couldn't even react to Ichigo's speed.
You're right but I still think that same point stands for his bankai just being strong.
>You know what it means in that context. Kubo obviously never planned that early on for Sasakibe to be a strong fighter.
Since when is having a bankai enough to qualify you for "strong fighter"? He's clearly shown at the same level as multiple other VCs who could potentially become captains, which isn't exactly high tier stuff.
Well it was.
>His powers receive something that might explain where they come from
>He gets to do a pep talk for Ichigo
>He ends up unconscious on the ground, per usuaL Chadx Ground OTP
2009-2010 was a wild ride for /a/, and not the good kind. The threads had more bashing than actual discussion, and to make matters worse we had Narutofags and OnePiecefags come and shit up the threads even further. This was the time when Bleach was actually Big 3 and there was so much competition between the fanbases.
I believe that the novel said Kira is not strictly speaking alive.
He is merely an overpowered puppet.
On the other hand, Mayuri having created life from nothing might allow him to pursue that experiment farther.
while I'll agree that it was probably a retcon ,this isn't true:
>He couldn't even react to Ichigo's speed.
he's the only one of the three to actually react to Ichigo, although he's still too slow to do anything about it. Comparatively, Omaeda gets sucker punched and Isane stares at Ichigo like a cow at an oncoming train, so he's clearly of a higher caliber than either of those 2 (not that that is saying much).
I find it acceptable that he was simply caught off-guard because nobody really expected some random to be as strong as Ichigo was, and most people are still in shock from the Sokyoku being destroyed
Going by Oomaeda's later speed feats, it might balance things a little. That is, Ichigo is shown faster than some pretty fast people.
Plus he was trained by Yoruichi, so the fact that he is damn fast is obvious.
And the chapter was named The Speed Phantom.
>I don't really buy into the whole "reiatsu is the only thing that matters" deal. I think Kubo could easily write a way for Rukia to counter Zanka no Tachi.
Because, you know, it would feel completely anti-climatic and disappointing. If Rukia can somehow counter Yamamoto's bankai, maybe the next moment Orihime will reject Yhwach's Almighty and render him powerless too.
This is what happens when you have like 200 goddam characters and they all have fans wanting more screen time. You get arcs that last decades. Kubo will die before bleach gets finished.
>kills off some characters
>lol jk zombies
>kills off captains
>lol jk some asspull why Zaraki is alive
Just keep them dead. Kubo. No one would bat an eye lash.
That's exactly what I mean. Their powers don't work literally like their description. It's magic, so don't expect flame to not burn while someone active an "absolute zero" power.
We have, actually. The one with more reiatsu a.k.a "power level" will somehow become unaffected by weaker opponent's power. The prime example is how Soi-fong failed to kill Aizen with her killing move.
The problem is how big the gap is. You can bridge a small gap with strategy, luck, skill, having a power that counters etc, but there isn't a whole lot you can do when someone is completely out of your league unless you have something really bullshit like the almighty or kyoka suigetsu.
Look like I didn't state it accurately, when I said "a.k.a power level", I mean how strong a character is according to the plotline. For example, tier 0 characters like Aizen, Yama and Yhwach can't possibly be beaten by anyone other than other tier 0 character or the protagonist, so a support character like Rukia is a no-no. Only in a parody or gag show you can see an irrelevant support character beating the big boss instead of the MC.
Ichigo was like 3 tiers above Rukia even before he got his new zanpakto, it's far more realistic to bring him up to Yhwach than it is to bring both of them up. Might as well have Chad, Uryu, Renji and Orihime all fight him evenly as well.
Rukia has already proven herself to be a better fighter than the majority of the jobbers in this manga. She beat an espada with only her shikai and kido, and she got a massive boost to her shikai as well as getting a bankai, and beat a sternritter. She has accomplished much more than multiple captains have.
Yhwhs Almight has already been circumvented on at least 1 occasion
Lets not forget that Yhwh is not changing the present, nor the future he sees. Hes following a strict guideline that leads to something. AS to what that something is. Is to be determined. For all we know its to die, be defeated or to leave someone else in charge
You're exaggerating her accomplishments a lot. She beat the weakest espada out of pure luck and then managed to beat one of the weaker, gimmicky sternritters only because Byakuya saved her from the gimmick and allowed her to recover. She's basically done equally to the weakest captains which is nothing to be impressed with.
>She beat the weakest espada out of pure luck
its worse than that. She needed Byakuya to come and bail her ass out because As Nodt's Vollstandig completely paralyses her with fear.
So yeah, her greatest accomplishment is beating a fairly low tier espada with the help of Byakuya.
>its worse than that. She needed Byakuya to come and bail her ass out because As Nodt's Vollstandig completely paralyses her with fear.
>So yeah, her greatest accomplishment is beating a fairly low tier espada with the help of Byakuya.
You are mixing up like 2 fights seperated by like 300 chapters
>She's accomplished way more than shitters like Rose, Kensei, and Shinji, all of whom are captains.
She has but only because Kubo hates the vizards and wants to have them job all the time. She isn't actually stronger than any of them though. You could make arguements for her being stronger than Komamura/Soi-Fon now but she seems to be way too much of a glass
or icecannon to actually take on an enemy stronger than her with her bankai.
>And being Captain level is extremely impressive regardless.
Not when we're talking about being useful against Yhwach. People are already skeptical about Ichigo being at a level to fight him, you really think a much weaker Rukia who got less of a power up in the Royal Realm is going to contribute meaningfully past support?
wow. I should probably go to bread.
anyway, the short of it is, she's never done anything amazing that merits her fighting Yhwach in any shape outside of giving Ichigo a nakama power up
The only way Rukia will be able to get to this level is by making this personal to her, otherwise I agree she has no business fighting Ywach.
How Kubo will tie her in to the story is the biggest mystery right now.
less than 40 years and she was in the accademy for less than a year before before being pulled out by Byakuya
And the only reason she had a remote issue against that hollow is because Ichigo kept distracting her, and endangering himself
>How Kubo will tie her in to the story is the biggest mystery right now.
he probably won't. She didn't show up for Deicidie (well, not until Aizen was defeated anyway), I'd be surprised if she does some meaningful now
She was depressed as fuck and was pretty much wanting to die at that point in the story, everyone in SS knew it, even Aizen.
Come to think about it she trained to her full potential until after she met Ichigo.
The concept of all that time for Shinigami and Hollows is just thrown out the window in Bleach at this point with how much strength increases and flips around in the relatively much shorter span of time the series takes place in, even with all the vague nonsense like the Hogyoku's side effects.
probably a call back to the start of the series. Urahara apologizing for getting them both mixed up in all this when he figures he's about to die. Maybe she's going to be important, but I don't really see it
Mayuri gets away with a lot of stuff, but I think everyone would be against doing that to former captains if the quincies have already been defeated. And I doubt he cares enough to fight for it/sneak behind peoples back since hes already 'been there done that' with Kira, he'll probably be interested in something else like remaking Nemu.
what struck me was that she said she remembers even the number of clouds on the day she met kenny. shes trapped in time. she was the swords original asauchi manifestation, until now she was suppressing the other hollow in the sword. when he finally used the shikai she was forced out
>Ukitake is almost definitely dead
Don't make me say it.
There would be way more butthurt if Ichigo and Orihime end up together. If there isn't any direct shipping ending, IchiRuki shippers would just point to symbolism and parallels to the reason that Ichigo and Rukia ended up together anyway.
However, if Orihime ends up with Ichigo, there'd be such a shitstorm.
Dead means useless, and doing nothing. Kira is the living "dead", and is doing something. He had a badass re-entry. God bless Kubo giving side characters some panel time.
>Urahara apologizing for getting them both mixed up in all this
The entire world is threatened and it has nothing to do with Urahara or Aizen's machinations; this has been in motion for a thousand years! Urahara wouldn't be apologizing for dragging them into it, especially not them specifically. Ichigo and Rukia both have a critical role in Urahara's plan, whatever it is.
I don't think you understand what dead means in mango newfriend.
>we'll never see kenpachi bankai
>urahara bankai was a huge disappointment
>shitty, boring characters are beating your favorite character
>your favorite character will always job
>every fight is exactly the same
>Yoruichi still a best
Dead has a pretty clear definition. He is no longer living, he is a shambling corpse due to the horrors of science but he is definitely not still alive. Being an active participants in fights doesn't mean you're automatically alive.
Poor naive soul, even if Kubo writes in epilogue that Rukia/Orihime and Ichogo lived happily ever after there're always gonna be fighting and nothing will silence the losers. This shit is way bigger than in Naruto so you can expect years of fighting after Bleach ends
>Yoruichi still a best
She was a complete shit in that chapter, you would think we would see her being competent as a really strong captain class but no she's just idiotic Urahara's sexy kitty who can't win on her own and just jobs as usual while in the embarrassing almost nude catgirl form...
Sorry but that was shit tier of what Kubo could do with her.
>calling someone else retarded when you can't even follow the series
There are living bodies and there are soul bodies, both are alive and can be killed. Once they are killed they are dead, regardless of if its a living body or a soul body. No wonder you're having problems understanding that Kira is a cyborg zombie if the basics of the Bleach world are still confusing you.