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>>138853440
>Shitaya Noriko
I thought she was on maternity leave.

>>138853440
Hoping they announce the director because that will dictate how hyped I am for this. If it's Miura I will kill myself

>>138853630
She announced it 7 months ago so she was probably a few months in. Either she already has or we will see a really pregnant Noriko on stage.

>>138853440
Damn, Sakura looks great here

>>138853440
A release date maybe.

Or another Fate anime is being announced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awH9oO95sNk

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>>138853711
We are living in the age of Sakura

>>138853440
Oh shit nigger, even though HF was already confirmed to be there, it's great that we'll have her VA again.
I wonder if we can get a livestream like with UBW and HF's initial announcements?

>>138853687
You really should've done so already anon, nothing's stopping you. I guess Miura getting picked would really be the best outcome for everyone.

>>138853710
Even if she has already had her kid, it would have been quite recent. Guess I'm a little concerned is all.

>>138853951
Seiyuu's give birth and go back to work all the time so it is not that bad. Also Sakura is the main character she voices so it is not that bad even though she will be busy with everything that is about to go on including her having to do lines for F/GO soon.

>>138853440
I might not die before I see HF. Nice.

>>138853909
I mean, if you like Miura's work even in the slightest you should go ahead and end yourself too. Not only are you cancer to the community, you are more than likely a retard who can't discern between valid artistic statements and disposable, uninspired crap.

Pls gibe Ei Aoki

>>138854126
Probably just going to be UBW's staff, maybe some slight changes (like Suhara being promoted to director hopefully).

The marketing for HF will be insane as this will the closing part of the main F/SN Franchise for Ufotable at least as they don't need to do Fate and Zero, UBW, and HF all tie together nicely. They probably will do HA sometime in the future.

>>138854275
UBW BDs flopped, this won't be as big as you think.

>>138854400
>flopped
They underperformed. It would have been a flop if it has sold sometinhg like 15k.

>>138854400
>flopped
37k is a flop in your world?

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>>138854400
>flopped

>>138854539
Not him but aren't those sales shit compared to F/Z?

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>>138853440

>>138854126
Why? He was terrible. UBW at least tried to convey the character development from the VN properly, and Zero was fucked up in several parts esp. regarding Kirei even though they had linear plot to work with.

>>138854575
>Compared
That is the word though
They don't make their money on BD alone.
Aniplex has a bunch of ways they make it for a franchise.

>>138854575
So is UBW.

>>138854575
No, they are not. They're worse, which is certainly to be expected from the 3rd anime of this work and the 2nd of this same story, with way less mass appeal than Fate/Zero. The fact that both seasons are in the top 20 best selling TV anime of all time at their price makes it far from "shit".

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Just wait
https://www.anime-japan.jp/
>tfw no FMP
>>138854400
>flopped
hard bait

>>138854575
>Not him but aren't those sales shit compared to two of the top 10 all time best sellers in history?

Uh I mean I guess but that's kind of a high bar you're setting.

I wonder if the reason Fate/Zero sold so well was because the show aired just a few months after Madoka Magica finished airing, and as a result, Gen Urobuchi was insanely popular. Since people found out/knew that Fate/Zero was written by him, and seeing how good of a job he did with Madoka, well, the sales being phenomenal was to be expected.

>>138855049
like psycho pass ?

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>>138854040
Miura is literally, objectively, the most patrician director of our time.

>>138854732
>Why? He was terrible.
Watch Kara no Kyoukai 1.
>UBW at least tried to convey the character development from the VN properly
kek

>>138854456
>They underperformed

Where are you getting that? They made a joke that HA would be guaranteed if 100k was hit, but that was it.

UBW was the third time the basic premise of FSN was adapted, while F/Z was its first.

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>>138853802
SOON.

>>138855337
Her time has come for a 2 hour montage of fight scenes?

>>138855313
Goddamnit why Shirou must suffer like that?

>>138855255
UBW did though. Unless you're the fucking Cooking Priest guy who literally ignores what happened in the show and complains that the entirety of every event wasn't narrated and explained explicitly.

Did it get everything? No of course not, but it covered all the core elements and themes, and even expanded the story in some areas.

>>138855395
He is the bone of his sword.

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>>138855421
And she just stole Shirou bone of his sword.

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>>138855313
>SOON.

with this shitty desings

>>138855255
>Watch Kara no Kyoukai 1.
>hurrr skyscrapers are like, far out, man... what's the difference between looking down one, jumping down one and flying...
>I KILL PEOPLE BECAUSE I'M A VENGEFUL GHOST EXCEPT NOT, I'M JUST SOME HOSPITALIZED BITCH
>you cut off my arm and I got a prosthetic replacement, that means I can do ghost arm bullshit!
>please buy Häägen-Dazs
No thanks.

>cooking priest tier shitposting ITT
>>138855491
Top buzzwords

>>138853440
fate when?

I love Sakura.

>>138855410
Yes it tried to convey the character development by removing all important monologues that make the MC more than a generic shonen protagonist, changing the dynamic between the main couple to make him look even more stupid, having no inner conflict for Rin apparent as a consequence of this, and cutting Caster's only real characterization in the route. Truly they tried.

They also covered the core themes so well that Nasu had to clarify on what the penultimate scene was supposed to look like because the director fucked it up so badly. But it's okay, we have a 20 minute fanservice epilogue where Luvia and Rin wrestle.

>>138853440
SAKURA WE LOVE YOU !!!!

>>138854575
not everything can be in the top 10

>>138854539
Shit sales as expected of shit route.

Heaven's Feel will bring back the glory of F/Zero

>>138855577
>buzzwords
Literally not a single one, just a summary of why it was absolute shit. Them thinking cryptic out of order nonsense was a good introduction is another good reason.

>>138853440

Same shit different season/year

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>>138855491
>implying it didn't have a haunting tone, interesting themes of deliberate unquantifiablity and just amazing backgrounds in general
>implying any Fateshit adaptation compares

>>138855651
HF =/= FZ

fuck off zerofags

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>>138853440
CCC please

What if Heaven's Feel is directed by Tetsuya Takeuchi?

>>138855689
but they are, you fag

>>138855491
fantastic b8

I'm glad more people are starting to realize ufotable butcher adaptations quite often.

What they did to KnK6 was disgusting.

>>138855654
It was more of a summary of how you didn't understand it.

>Them thinking cryptic out of order nonsense was a good introduction is another good reason.
This series title literally means "boundary of emptiness". By establishing a boundary of what is empty, you're establishing what constitutes emptiness. Consequently, you're also establishing what has value. The series thematically deals with that and it's why it's released out of chronological order.

>>138855705
The KnK5 guy? Fuck yes, but that's never going to happen.

>>138855689
HF gives a shit about Matous
FZ gives a shit about Matous

HF = FZ

>>138855313
Damn it why are there so little figurines of FKP.

>>138855732
People see pretty lights and think it equals good adaptation. Comparing Ufo's F/SN to DEEN's, they're equally bad in terms of actually adapting the material.

>>138855746
Paradox Spiral was directed by Takayuki Hirao, who also directed Gyo. Takeuchi did Yuri Seijin Naoko-san.

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>>138855609
Okay, you are literally that guy. Put your trip on.

People have explained to you, countless times, where you're wrong/ All of Shirou's essential monologues are in, You never once produce a clear example of what additional monologues you're talking about are needed.

I don't even know where to start about the Shirou and Rin stuff, since it's completely baseless. Though Nasu did talk about how the anime made Rin "sweeter".

>cutting Caster's only real characterization in the route

You keep on harping on about this, but it amounts to less than 500 words. It's not even a single scene, and no one fucking talks about it besides you. It's pure grasping at straws.

Could the final scene have been a tad more clearer? Sure, but you also have to note that what Rin said in the conversation just prior expounds on the intent of that final scene. Hamming it in too hard would have been redundant.

Talking with you is practically pointless though. You've had a vendetta against this show for what amounts to years at this point. I remember when you first started spouting false rumors on MAL about the second season that eventually spread to here and Beast's Lair.

You are cancerous to the discussion of this franchise.

>>138855808
Oh, I know, Hirao is one of my favorite directors. By "KnK5 guy" I meant he animated and storyboarded parts of KnK5, like this scene for example: https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/4347/animated-effects-fabric-fighting-kara_no_kyoukai-l

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>>138853802
>Was kinda sad thinking she was going to be left out of the Prisma-universe.
>Tfw all dis plot importance with cooler-universe-Emiya.
I love all main heroines. Saber just has too much representation so any more should be bullying.

>>138855840
Kill yourself. UBW was trash.

Heaven's Feel > Fate/Zero > UBW = Fate

>>138855469
>Dark Sakura stealing Shirou's 'boner'.
I want to see Shirou hate-fuck Dark Sakura!

>>138855806
No. That's completely ridiculous. Ufotable worked hand in hand with Nasu to create the adaptation. DEEN rushed out a 90 minute product, while Ufotable created the equivalent of 30 episodes with new material created by the original author.

The amount of love put in compared to your standard cash grab is ludicrous. I don't you would get anything better from anyone else.

>>138855848
Oh yeah, definitely. Takeuchi has yet to make his big break and I feel that he would bring a lot to Heaven's Feel.

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>>138855677
>>138855746
>i-it's not pretentious shit because [pretentious shit]

>>138855872
Thank you so much for your contributions to the conversation.

/b/'s the board to right, though.

>>138855849
>Saber just has too much representation so any more should be bullying.
Maybe it's just me but I always found Rin appeared more often than Saber, sure there's a ton of Saber clones but that's not Saber herself.

>>138855840
>worst heroine, stupid villain, and most retard hero.
It won't be missed at all

>>138855981
I disagree with all those points, but none of them have anything to do with the quality of the adaptation.

>>138855947
>rin fag
why am I not surprised

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>>138855840
>You never once produce a clear example of what additional monologues you're talking about are needed.
The scene where he escapes from Lancer through calculated steps which is important to his characterization as something like a machine? The scene where he talks about Tohsaka's personality which is needed for her character arc? The monologue when Archer saves him from Caster that shows the reason he doesn't want Archer to help him?
>I don't even know where to start about the Shirou and Rin stuff, since it's completely baseless. Though Nasu did talk about how the anime made Rin "sweeter".
Reread the scene where Shirou discusses plans to interrogate Issei with Rin, then watch the anime version. All of the scenes at school where he intentionally trolls her that were lost in the anime version due to cut monologues.
>You keep on harping on about this, but it amounts to less than 500 words. It's not even a single scene, and no one fucking talks about it besides you. It's pure grasping at straws.
That just proves you didn't understand the original route. Now I see why you like the mediocre cashgrab Aniplex adaptation, Miura apologist.
>Could the final scene have been a tad more clearer? Sure
This reads like damage control. It's a poorly, vaguely directed scene that bastardizes the epilogue from the VN.

>>138855947
Go back to your tohsaga'sanus circlejerk threads, NEOTM scum.

>>138855699
More translations all this week

https://tsukinoura.wordpress.com/

>>138856074
not him but I remember seeing this image where the guy behind the vn said that the shirou in ubw surpassed the one in the VN

>>138856074
>Left: Pretentious headcanon fanfic that boils down to a more verbose version of right
>Right: What actually happens in the VN
There's a reason HF is the final end and not UBW.

>>138856126
I'd take whatever Nasu says or does not say with a grain of salt, since current Nasu does not seem to know what the hell he is talking about as he is blinded by dollar bills.

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>>138856170
Still better than whatever shit being spouted by some random anon who is basing off translations that may or may not be the most accurate.

>>138856274
No, it isn't. Nasu has no credibility at all anymore.

>>138856167
HF is the final ending because Shirou finally has to make a hard decision plot armor can't help him with.

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>>138856274
なんてマジwwwwwwww

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>>138856074
>The scene where he escapes from Lancer through calculated steps which is important to his characterization as something like a machine? The scene where he talks about Tohsaka's personality which is needed for her character arc? The monologue when Archer saves him from Caster that shows the reason he doesn't want Archer to help him?

Oh my goodness, you actually listed some scenes. I'm honestly a little impressed, and in fact, agree with that some of those scenes would have been nice.

I don't really agree about the one with Lancer, as I find it to be ultimately inconsequential, and the theme of being a machine is addressed further on in the series, and even to a degree of more clarity with the anime. The entire inner mind sequence in episode 20 is very precise on it.

Would have liked the other two scenes though, but I don't ultimately feel like their exclusion is damning, especially considering some things will certainly be cut in a text to screen adaptation.

>Reread the scene where Shirou discusses plans to interrogate Issei with Rin...

Nasu specifically wanted Shirou to come off more serious in the anime, including asking that he doesn't smile. The "snark" was altered, but at the original creator's intent. He wanted him to come off more machine-like.

>That just proves you didn't understand the original route. Now I see why you like the mediocre cashgrab Aniplex adaptation, Miura apologist.

Non-answer. You have literally been going on and on about this for months, and it comes down to a short partial scene about Caster's background. They even covered chunks of that same scene, but it was just a few lines of dialog that hardly anyone but you spoke about.

>This reads like damage control. It's a poorly, vaguely directed scene that bastardizes the epilogue from the VN.

Don't know how it could bastardize something that was never in the VN in the first place. I've seen Nasu's original script for the episode. It was overtly long.

>>138856345
Are you the guy from the thread from a few days ago that got moved to /jp/ that got blown the fuck out for misunderstanding UBW?

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>>138856358
Nasu's original script for 25 simply wouldn't have fit a regular 24 minute anime. They did have to do some trimming.

UFOtable is an awful studio and UBW was mediocre because of them.

The movies will be just as lackluster

>>138856358
>Oh my goodness, you actually listed some scenes.
Like many times before, check the archive. Or fix your memory: https://desustorage.org/a/thread/134415689/#134450228

Ignoring the rest of your post which just says "Yeah, they fucked up crucial characterization and other things but that's okay"

>>138856503
Thank you, yes, please continue to avoid addressing points that disagree with you.

To you, the specifications of what Shirou had for dinner are crucial plot points.

You harp on about the machine-like nature of Shirou, but when Ufotable visually showcases this by never making smile (until near the end, or with his interactions with Rin- visual character development), you just avoid the point.

You look at the DEEN adaptations, and Shirou smiles, and laughs, and acts completely human. But he's supposed to be a machine? How does that add up?

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Why are we ruining a thread with UBW stuff when we could be talking about how lovely Sakura is?

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>>138856622
I mean it all comes down to the fact that something is a text-based form of storytelling, and another is a visual. UBW was very heavy on using its visuals, as a stated intent.

You though seem to have an issue with the fact that unless it's narrated or spoken outright, it's somehow not there.

>>138856708
Why do you keep using text sources instead of the visuals you claim that show it then?

>>138856656
Because that attracts retards from /pol/ looking to spam bullshit about her.

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>>138856622
>Thank you, yes, please continue to avoid addressing points that disagree with you.
No points were made, you simply said "crucial characterization was cut but that's fine because it was at the discretion of the original author who obviously can do no wrong". Hint: Shirou wasn't dumbed down to make him more "machine like", he was dumbed down to broaden the appeal of the material so shounen fans and otaku can find enjoyment in it. This is the same reason there are shots like this one of Rin's ass pointlessly scattered throughout episodes.

>To you, the specifications of what Shirou had for dinner are crucial plot points.
The specifications of his mindset and ideal, his entire snarky and calculative personality, his skillset, none of these were conveyed in adaptation.

>You harp on about the machine-like nature of Shirou, but when Ufotable visually showcases this by never making smile (until near the end, or with his interactions with Rin- visual character development), you just avoid the point.
Sociopathy does not mean you lose all of your emotions. It just means that you have a limited range of emotions. DEEN was a better adaptation even if it was bad.

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>>138856749
Well for one, there isn't an animated adaptation of the interview with Miura.

There is a 26 episode adaptation of UBW though, with a lot of animation. 30 episodes of animation, due to all the extra scenes and double episodes, and they do utilize them. Remember the "boetry" posts about the show?

>>138856821
>There is a 26 episode adaptation of UBW though, with a lot of animation.
Why don't you take examples from there then instead of some interview.

>>138856708
KnK5 is a visual adaptation by a director who knows what they're doing.
UfoUBW is a frantic gottagofast adaptation where we jump from people dying brutally to comedy sketches in matters of seconds, none of characters have any sort of personality, none of events hold any emotional value, we have no sense of the world the characters live in and suddenly explosions and surfboarding.

>>138856821
Most of the "poetry" moments are from episode 20 which is agreed to be the only decent one as it wasn't storyboarded by Miura but Takashi Suhara instead. In the context of the anime as a standalone though, it falls flat, because we have no reason to care about Shirou or his ideal that hasn't been established properly.

i'm agree with fai this time while he's too exaggerating and nitpicking but i understand his point

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>>138856813
>Hint: Shirou wasn't dumbed down to make him more "machine like", he was dumbed down to broaden the appeal of the material so shounen fans and otaku can find enjoyment in it

I provide interviews and sources of information, and you come up with mindless conjecture that has no proof, and is just your little conspiracy theory. Never once did they say Shirou was changed to appeal to a broader audience.

>This is the same reason there are shots like this one of Rin's ass pointlessly scattered throughout episodes.

You know that this is based off of an eroge, right? And it adds visual interest to a scene that was just people talking. It wasn't just her having an ass shot. It was her freaking out.

>The specifications of his mindset and ideal

Handled thoroughly throughout the show. You're going to say I'm wrong though, just cause.

>Sociopathy does not mean you lose all of your emotions. It just means that you have a limited range of emotions. DEEN was a better adaptation even if it was bad.

Excuse me, Shirou is not a textbook sociopath, and never has been defined as that. Second, you are ludicrous if you think the UBW adaptation by DEEN is anywhere close to Ufotable's. DEEN was just a fight scene montage, and a mediocre one that that.

>>138856885
First of all I do do that, but where exactly could I pinpoint in the show that Nasu specifically intended for Shirou's personality to come off more rigid? Or that they specifically intended to tell the story heavily with visual? I can post those, but I have a specific quote showing that that was what they wanted.

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>>138856911
>UfoUBW is a frantic gottagofast adaptation where we jump from people dying brutally to comedy sketches in matters of seconds

You mean the Lancer scene in episode 16? Yeah you know that's in the VN, right? The anime actually had the courtesy to move the scene to another location, and include a bit of a time skip, rather than have it literally happen feet away from Ilya course, which is how it happens in the game.

"Gottagofast" pacing. I love that though. What is this, we talking about the movie now?

>>138856987
The entire show was littered with moments that referenced past scenes, or scenes from different Type Moon things. 20 was by far the greatest, but you had them constantly throughout.

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>>138857133
probably he means the scene where shinji fights with the maids then gilgamesh kills him

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>>138857170
Visually showing off Shirou slowly gaining Archer's skills.

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>>138857198
Shirou has a hell of a ptsd face.

>>138857193
You know going from comedy to a serious scene is not uncommon, right? You lower the tension, and then you get shocked when the "oh shit" moment hits.

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anyone knows the source of this pic ?

It's seen from Hollow Ataraxia, but this scene doesn't show in the UFO OPS

>>138857198
That swordfight in the lower scene makes me cringe

>>138855872
Sick memepost bro.

>>138856167
Thanks anon. HF indeed overrides it's immediate previous route and saves the franchise.

The amount of goodness action and cloure in all fronts it brings is just plain amazing.

>>138856987
> In the context of the anime as a standalone though, it falls flat, because we have no reason to care about Shirou or his ideal that hasn't been established properly.

Also, I want to address that.

Where was it ever stated that UBW was a stand-alone series?

UBW is an adaptation of the second route of Fate/stay night. Where in that, could you ever argue that it was meant to be watched without any prior references to the previous programs?

The 2006 series exists. Zero exists. You don't start with this.

You don't start with Empire Strikes Back, you don't start with The Two Towers, you don't start with Back to the Future Part II.

That doesn't mean their stories are of any less worth, it just means they continue from where the previous parts left off.

I also completely disagree that Shirou's ideal wasn't established. I don't even know where to begin with that. It was there the entire fucking show.

>>138855981
>ubw most retard hero
Not sure but he's the most immature for sure and poorly relatable.

>>138857509
>most immature
>not Fate
Are you for real

>>138857509
So you can't self-insert as him?

Good.

You shouldn't. Shirou is his own person, and that's what makes him interesting. You yourself may find that you wouldn't want to spend your life in desert hellholes putting your life on the line to help others, but Shirou accepts that burden, and it's not wrong.

>>138857536
It's ok in Fate because it's the first one and you don't expect your faves reaching their final form on the first route.

>>138857545
>You shouldn't.
He's an eroge MC. Of course you are supposed to self insert as him.

>>138857545
You degenerate piece of shit, how I'm supposed to fuck to heroines?

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>>138857576
HF isn't the only answer. It's just one of several.

>>138857590
The entire game is structured around you learning Shirou's character. The choice in FSN aren't you picking what you want to happen. It's you using the information about Shirou's character to do what he would do in that situation.

You don't, and you get a bad end.

Sure is a lot of pontificating going on in this thread

>>138857613
NTR and make them abandon Shirou for you with your cock perhaps?

>>138857613
You don't.

>>138857630
And?

>>138857635
Dunno if they would fall for a fat, fedora-tipping neckbeard with a microscopic, phimotic, smegma-coated enlarged clitoris for a dicklet.

>>138857536
Kiritsugu == HF Shirou > Fate >>>> Ubw

>>138856656
Go fuck yourself wormslut

>>138857630
Welcome to Fate threads. You don't come here for fun, you come here to get angry at people for having the wrong opinion.

>>138857719
UBW Shirou is literally the most patrician character Nasu has ever written, bar none.

People just don't understand him, and what's amazing is that that's written into his character.

" Not even once being understood."

Literally fucking bravo.

>>138857789
>ubw shirou
Every kid from 10 years old and later (specially in the range from 10 to 15) understands him. Lamest main ever.

>>138857847
>ideals are bad and wrong
>look how hedonistic and nihilistic I am
Literally 16 year old

>>138857877
A 16yo still acceptable to like him I guess but not young adults or adults ffs.

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>>138856193

I'll penetrate it.

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>>138857847
>Struggles with the desire to be a hero and help others in the face of crushing reality and the knowledge that he'll never be able to bear such a harsh weight
>Triumphs and continues his belief knowing that the process of attempting to do good regardless is what matters, while also accepting the potential sins of it all

Literally. Patrician.

>>138857789
He's really forgettable tbqh, I mean come on kid

>>138857993
>Forgettability is literally ingrained into him by becoming a hero who is never recognized by the general public

Is Nasu an auteur?

>>138853440
TRAILER ALREADY ??

>>138858061
Next week. March 27th.

>>138857626
It's an eroge. You are the MC. It's that simple.

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>>138858033
Holy shit..

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>>138858087

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>>138858087
The game punishes you for not playing into Shirou's mindset.

If the game had you being the MC, you could do as you wanted. Paths wouldn't dead end constantly if you made decisions, but they do, and they dead end when you pick something that Shirou wouldn't in his current state of being.

Pic related is a fine example, where you know that Shirou wouldn't choose anything else.

Theres something much more subtle though, and that's the entire lack of choice during the Archer fight.

I think there's even a bit where the screen turns, and it looks like it's about to present a choice to the player, but it never does, and why? Cause there is no other choice in the world for Shirou there.

>>138858236
Doesn't matter, the player is still the MC.

>>138858246
Nah buddy. You're just in it for the ride.

>>138856656
>lovely

>>138858253
Keep telling yourself that if you want, it doesn't change the fact that the player is the MC.

This thread makes me miss trading wormslut/pleases old men memes.

Holy shit some of you assholes need to take a literary or film theory class.

>>138858277
Listen if you rapped while playing FSN that was your business, but my flow is weak as shit bro. I couldn't do it.

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>>138858302
Pretty funny

>>138858293
Why do you think half of every TM thread boils down to people just posting waifus?

Cause you know right under that veneer of cute anime girls are people ready to go at it for hours arguing over the same shit again and again and never ending up happy no matter what the outcome.

HF is gonna be a minefield. We're mixing fucking Sakura in with an anime adaptation. Fucking Christ.

>>138858293
>I can't explain how others are wrong so I'll just make a vague facetious comment about them.
top bait

>>138858375
On the bright side, it's a movie or a series of movies, rather than a weekly anime series. It's mostly going to be concentrated in the days (maybe weeks) following the premiere, the first major camrip, and the BD release.

>>138855783
>FZ gives a shit about Matous
When?

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Oh boy this thread.

>>138858439
Kariya got a whole character arc. That's more than Sakura got in Fate and UBW.

>>138858470
>Kariya
Who?

>>138858478
Bahsahkah no Mastah.

>>138858478
Worm hobo

>>138858497
>>138858507
>irrelevant side character
>whole character arc (muh suffering)

>>138858531
>whole character arc (muh suffering)
That can be used to dismiss literally every character's story arc except for Kirei's (and even then you can twist the meaning to be true) and Waver's (and that's debatable).

>>138858570
>That can be used to dismiss literally every character's story arc
As it should be.

>>138858570
And it's pretty much Butcher's standard writing style.

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>>138858266
Is there a problem with that? She is.

>>138856656
That's impossible since majioriy of those who had play the game hates her

>>138853802
It's a great time to be a Sakurafag. I still wish the flashback would hurry the fuck up and finish though. It's been at least a year since it started.

>>138853440
>Fate project
it's heaven's feel or a new project?

>>138860419
Heaven's feel is already announce so maybe new one.

how are the chances for strange fake anime?

>>138858375

I pretty much expect to be done with this community and anime in general by the time that comes out so doesn't concern me much.

>>138860419
Probably Heaven's Feel. I remember UBW still being called a Fate Project even when everyone already know what it was.

>>138854575
>>138854539

F/Z was like 350 bucks per box preordered, but UBW was 420 something. UBW was better, but that pricing is just fucking bullshit.

Not that western sales mean shit here.

>>138860511
Zero of course. Why they should animate it when there is only 2 volumes?

>>138860700
The biggest thing factoring into UBW's sales is that literally just five years prior, there was a movie adaptation of the same story.

A few years before that, an adaptation of an alternate retelling.

I mean there are some scenes that have literally been animated three times. I loved UBW, but fuck, dude, I never would assume that it could top Zero, since that was completely fresh.

>>138855892
FSN > FZ

>>138853440
Anything about Fate/kaleid liner PrismaIllya 3rei!!
??

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Will the appearance of Saber Alter simply accelerate Saber's massive popularity?

>>138861435
I don't think so

>>138861949
>No Kira Yamato
Shit poll

>>138860511
F/SF anime by Brain's Base when

in 5 years min

>Sakuras VA literally has shit in her name

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>>138853440
>>138853802
>sample
I want to sample on Sakura if you know what I mean

>>138862304

If you take away the worms, the personality and the dead eyes, she is smoking hot.

>>138862340
The dead eyes are hot, fuck you.

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>>138862304

>>138862025
He got banned a few years ago because he won too often

>>138862452
He got brought back

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>>138862340
No Sakura is always high temperature.

>>138862512
Just too bad she has a shit personalit/character. CCC Sakura is better.

>>138862138
it's pottery

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Next chapter when?

So why didnt sakura just rip out zoukens crest worm as soon as she realised she was the shadow?

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>>138862678
It gave her too much sexual pleasure.

http://live.nicovideo.jp/gate/lv256506519

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>>138862781
Yep, it seems like Aniplex/TM will stream it.

>>138862781
>region blocked
FUUUUUUUUCK

>>138862964
Some anon will stream it. That happened before and i hope that happen this time.

Miura is an Ilyafag so he should direct HF.

>>138862678
Kinda cause it was attached to her heart? She wouldn't have been able to survive it if she hadn't become Dark Sakura

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Can't wait for pic related. Jesus christ.

>>138862537
CCC Sakura is great and all, but fuck you, Sakura is adorable.

>>138858507
>>138858478

pls don't bully best Zero


>>138857789
>being that delusional

kek, Archer is far more interesting and is actually correct about UBW Shirou being a fucking retard.
There is a good reason why he decided to help around and lend Shirou a hand in HF (^:

>>138864605
>kek, Archer is far more interesting and is actually correct about UBW Shirou being a fucking retard.

No. That's wrong. His entire arc is focused around him accepting his life, and realizing his choices weren't as bad as he realized.

"It's not a mistake", and for him, it "wasn't" a mistake.

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>mfw it's only one movie

>>138864772
I feel like ufotable would make something better with the less time they, honestly.

Multiple movies just means more time for them to add in unnecessary bloat.

>>138853440
Is it going to be full blown sex scene or not?

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HF Shirou is my favourite character in all media. After all the shit he went through, he still keeps going, just to be save a person who was impossible to save. Nobody believed he could do it, but he still tries, just for the sake of seeing her smile.

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>>138864857
You will get this and you will like it.

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>>138855313
Love that female version of Berserker's armor. Same goes with Angelica with Gilgamesh's. Looks nice.

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>>138864938
You just described literally every shounen MC ever.

>>138864938
Would have probably appreciated his efforts more if I had a real reason to care about Sakura in the story, other than the fact that she was the designated love interest for the route.

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>>138864993
Agreed. Out of all the things in Heaven's Feel, Sakura was the one thing that bogged it down the most for me. I could've enjoyed it way more had it been about saving Illya.

>>138859693
She's cute.

>>138861147
So FSN > HF > Zero > UBW > Fate

>>138865087
UBW > HF = Zero > Fate

FSN > CCC > SF > FZ > Kaleid > Apo

>>138865087
>>138865133
Why do people shit so much on Fate but not as much on Heaven's Feel when HF had even worse pacing with Rin's exposition being replaced by Illya's and 3/4th of the route being a slog before it actually turned interesting?

>>138865178
I like Fate, but part of its problem stems from the fact that it's the 'introductory" route.

I swear, like, half the servants either die off screen, or get taken out too quickly, all so they can be made more interesting in the proceeding routes.

>>138865178
Wait, you think Fate issue was only the pacing?

>>138865178

>>138865264
This

Fate once you eliminate all the introduction that has to be in it is good. It just spends so much time setting everything up. I believe that if they ever do a Fate anime it will surpass the VN as they can skip all the unnecessary moments and expand on more relationship building between Shirou and Saber.

>>138865405
Nasu already said he initially wanted Ufo to make a Fate adaptation, but decided to scrap it because he wanted to do some rewriting on it before adapting it again.

>>138865426
My point

Nasu understand that it needs to be redone as it was valid as the first part of the story when no one knew about Fate. Now it has be reworked for a audience that knows a lot about the franchise.

>>138857292

It's the Spiral Ladder scene where Karen is leading Avenger up the stairs in the sky to end the loops where they meet Bazett. It's during the part where Shirou/Rin/Sakura/Ilya and the Servants are fighting the sea of Avenger corpses engulfing the town.

It's an awesome scene I wish we could see ufo deliver in its entirety. Does anyone have the awesome gif/webm of Sakura strutting like a boss in that H/A OP?

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>>138864973

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>>138865971
Sakura really is olev.

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Sakura is the best

>>138854400
maybe for you

>>138860751
>there was a movie adaptation of the same story.

That took away my initial excitement, but the show actually did manage to feel fresh with its presentation. All those added scenes and altered perspectives weren't for nothing. And the high budget showed in the animation quality, which was one of the major weak points of Zero.

Zero as a story completely blows UBW away, but as an animated series, the latter was superior in every regard.

I need prisma illya memes asap!

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>>138862537

The HF manga really showed nicely the casual genki spirit she has with Shirou and Taiga. The movie should also show more of the kuudere Sakura warming up to Shirou.

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>>138866421

>>138866655
>The HF manga
Translation never

>>138866304
Those tits are outrageous on a high schooler.

>>138866655
>The movieS should also show more of the kuudere Sakura warming up to Shirou.
Fixed

>>138854001
Sakura's in Grand Order? But the plot should have nothing to do with her.

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>>138866747

She is 15, the youngest of the cast next to Caren, who is 14.

Now pic related is 18, and even bustier, she isn't done growing yet.

>>138865971

Takeuchi finally decided to show actual curves and show the "long lustrous hair" Nasu described her with.

Imagine if you were Shirou, and half a year prior, she was short and flatter than Sabet, then currently vavavavoom she has that banging body, calling her a little sister seems wrong now. Your senpai rep might be in trouble too.

>>138865087
Everything >>> ubw is widespread acceptable

>>138866911
B-but the start of the VN said everyone was over 18

>>138866407
Zero sold more because it was new in terms of animation and was riding on the Fate name. It had nothing to do with it supposedly having a better story (dubious).

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Still no alternate universe where this happens. The prisma Iiya author fucked up.

>Cooking Priest
>Posts: 21041
This guy has no life for sure

>>138867103
Most people on /a/ (from at least 5 years ago) have posted 10 times that number of posts.

>>138866911
>Takeuchi
Is that art even by Takeuchi? In the case it isn't it doesn't amount to more than fanart. She was depicted with a certain bust size in the VN, in all the anime adaptations she's been depicted with the same size as the VN. Stop being delusional, she sure as hell doesn't have giganticus tits at that age in either the VN or the anime adaptations (read: the canon art of her)

>>138867206
Your forgot that he shitpsot here too. And if you check MAL he's 95% of time "online"

>>138867322
>the canon art of her
Are you retarded?

>>138867375
Are you? What other art amounts to being canon if not the one the fucking VN utilizes + the anime?

>>138867405

The UBW anime shows a noticeable amount of bust that neither the DEEN anime or the UBW movie showed. And yes that was Takeuchi.

Hell, the DEEN anime showed she had a figure only when they put her in that godawful bondage outfit.

>>138867522
When did I ever say she doesn't have a noticeable amount? I'm saying the fanart throws you off, it's not as big as depicted by fans, but she's definitely not small either.

>>138862304
Get in the line.

>>138867566

It's not super cowtits size, but a 38DD is pretty healthy for a 15 year old.

>>138867099

I still loved that scene in Hollow those sprites came from.

They got Rider and Shirou good.

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Sakura a cute.

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>>138867405

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>>138867522
>>138867566
Sakura is a noticeable 15 year old.

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>>138866877
There are psuedo-servants that are using people's bodies for their summon.
Waver is already in it and is being used by Zhuge Liang

It was confirmed that Sakura is going to be used by Parvati and Rin by Ishtar

>>138868639
F/GO is really horrible

>>138868760
Pseudo Servants have existed since F/SN

What do you think Avenger was?

"A shit", would be the right answer.

>>138866739
Once the raws get past the stuff that's the same as Fate, interest in the manga should rise exponentially.

>>138868905
This is different. Those characters are popular. Popular = $$$.
They will write anything for money. Plot doesn't matter. It's like "plot" in fighting games where more characters = better. I will never understand why people considered MBAACC as canon

>>138869331
I guess Shirou wasn't popular when it happened in Ataraxia.

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>>138868639

Parvati? The mother goddess that has two sides? That has some ironic connotations doesn't it. So TM is literally going to give us a milf Sakura. Good, very good.

And Rin as Ishtar will be interesting if they use that one freaky Ishtar from those sketches of the Epic of Gilgamesh as a baseline. The meme of Rin Scissorhands could begin.

>>138862570
RAWs should come out around the 23rd. The translation depends on which RAWs come out first. It could take a month, in the worst case.

>>138869559
Rin is already being compared to Ishtar in different games. In CCC Gilgamesh already asked if this girl was an incarnation of Ishtar

Apparently she was tsundere

>>138869553
Avenger being Shirou is just a metaphor for the reader.

>>138869559
If they're going to give Rin scissorhands, who is to say they wont give Sakura 4 arms? It's obviously going to be like Waver's case, where they just look like the character with no actual change.

>>138869742
Nah as far as you probably mean it.

Avenger lacks a self entirely, so he needs to filter through people in order to exist. He does this every time he's appeared in the series to date, like F/SN. Although Ataraxia is his most pure appearance so far. He can only exist at the moment through the sins and evils of humanity in part, through a host or concept of a host. Shirou wasn't physically there, but Avenger still had to use his data in order to have a self. For all accounts and reasons that had to perfectly be Shirou, except when he was talking to either Karen or Bazett since he had no data on how Shirou reacts to them.

He's zero after all, zero will add itself to one without changing the actual equation, but zero is now present.

UBW bds with UTW subs fucking when

>>138869559
god damn sakura is fine as hell

>>138870711
They did S1. You will have to go with the official subs for S2 for now.

Live Broadcast of even on Nico now confirmed:
http://live.nicovideo.jp/gate/lv256506519

>>138871516
*event

>>138871516
did you read the thread?

>>138860167
and majority of the players are retards

>>138862781
>This program is only available in Japan.
Why is this a thing?

>>138872005
Why is this a problem? Don't you have google?

>>138857170
Holy shit they're all sitting down.

>>138867962
What'd they do?

>>138864605
Man HF shirou was such a badass.

>>138872399
He threw away everything for a girl that didn't deserve it, He's not a badass, he's an accessory to murder and so is Rin. A real hero would lock Shirou and Rin up for life and execute Sakura in that route.

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>>138872399
Now if only he could be badass for a character that deserved it, like Illya.

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>>138872486

>>138869559
So are Rin and Sakura aware of themselves in the game or just being used as meatsacks like the girl Jeanne was using in her light novel?

>>138872486

So your saying a real hero would not only not only not solve the issue(because killing Sakura doesn't stop the core problem of the system being fucked for decades), but kill off a girl who was used and abused as a science experiment and murder her family and friends for wanting to help? Including the guy who risked his life not just for a family member, but for the town itself?

Shirou didn't forget Sakura's mistakes, but he also, unlike you, saw that it was neither all her fault, nor was she a willing participant in this. That was what his final talk with her was about, and why she ended up restoring the town afterwards.

>>138866999
Check'd and kek'd

>>138872176

They played a prank and pretended to be all super catty with each other, casually slinging insults and putting their rape faces on. Shirou thought they would fight right then and Rider was hiding behind Ilya shaking.

Then they did a "gotcha" and explained it was a ruse they planned when Rin came back. Truly the devilish Tohsaka Sisters.

>>138868639
FGO is really fuckin crazy

>>138855651
>F/Zero
Show me your moves!

>>138874084
The 5th chapter is coming out next week. We are nearing the endgame so I'm expecting whatever plot revelations we get to keep escalating everything.

>>138873867
People that bitch about this never realize that the options were either "Renounce your ideals and stop being a hero" or "Renounce your ideals and stop being a hero, except in a different way".

Either way he broke, but he chose to break in the way that made him human again by picking love rather than ideals even though it was probably impossible.

I can easily see the option where he "sticks to his ideals of saving everyone, by killing everyone" to have ended a thousand times worse, and ironically turning out the exact same as Kiritsugu turned out with the town on fire, except he can't even save one orphan this time since no Avalon.

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>>138874084
Humanity and the planet are brought to its limits, so even things not normally summonable have to allow themselves to be summoned somehow in this story.

>>138874866
I just mean in general. Shit's nuts, yo

>>138874897
Oh yeah, even the side events don't take themselves too seriously in the game as they just have a bit of fun.

Current event is about MC being stuck in a world between dreams and reality with the Count of Monte Cristo, as he must explore the seven deadly sins. Except the sins keep fucking up, either by not acting out their role properly or by just being Gilles over and over.

Nasu is always fun with his bullshit. Count of Monte Cristo being a chuuni is fun as well.

>>138854583
Wait so HF contains Kaleido Rin stuff?

>>138875070
HF is where Zelretch rod and some Zelretch items came from.

Its what Rin used to almost match Dark Sakura final form special edition limited remix.

>>138860419
It's the dynasty warriors clone

>>138874866
>A pantomine in front of the eiffel tower

>>138875193
That announcement already happened a week back.

>>138875244
gameplay footage

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>>138874071

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>>138875192
I think the rod is from HA, I don't recall it being mentioned in HF. The gem sword is from HF though, that's what she used against Sakura's shadow golem things which are super cute when small by the way.

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god I hope they do this fight right

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caren a cute
a CUTE

>>138875691
She is a whore, she needs to get pregnant already.

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degenerates

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>>138875691

>>138875639
That scene is highly overrated anyway. I found it an underwhelming and shoehorned "last battle" scene.

>Dumas and Dantes are both Servants

How the hell does this work?

>>138875840
Wishing I was pretty degenerate now that I'm late to work with no transportation.

IM SICK OF FATESHIT, GIVE ME TSUKIHIME REMAKE ALREADY

>>138876052
Same as Frankenmoe and Jekyll&Hyde. Dantes was real.

>>138875923
It was the meaning of the route

The fight itself isn't the draw here, rather its the ideals being thrown down. Similar to the Archer vs Shirou fight where it was more about the ideals and determination rather than strictly just the action. If you just want a fight scene that's only about the action, go with Gil and Shirou instead, which is shit because it doesn't have something like this going for it.

Kotomine and Shirou have had so many conversations in the route up to that point leading up to it, showing their ideals, their resolution, that it means so damn much when this is the only way it could have turned out.

Two men who have lived this way their entire lives, neither knows how to turn back, they only know how to ram their fists into each other and keep moving forward.

Shirou says it fairly accurately; its not that Kotomine sought compensation for his actions, rather this was the only way he knew how to live. Even if he died in the next second, this was what his life meant. Shirou was able to just barely get ahead in the end due to a few seconds extra time, and because he was no longer empty in the same way, as he suddenly felt a flash and started remembering how he changed recently, he's no longer the same as Kotomine.

Both of them had a point going into the fight, but they could not compromise on each others views, so they had to fight to the death. A simple brawl with no magic and nothing special since they were too dead for anything else, just their fists. Two dying men giving it their all with their last breaths. No matter the outcome they would never live to see it, but this was the accumulation of their entire lives in one moment.

>>138875691
>>138875858
Mama Kotomine is such a cutie. I have a hard time believing Kirei (even being like he is) wouldn't make tender love to her frail body every day

>>138876268
the fight itself was also pretty kickin

I finally got by copy of the 2nd UBW BD BOX, and is it just me or the track that plays slightly before & during Tsubame Gaishi on episode 23 missing?

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>>138876499
Shit forgot to post a picture

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>>138876549
From the soundtrack I mean.

>>138853440
Oh fuck off and finish the Tsukihime remake already.

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>>138876499

I can't imagine Kirei being intimate with any woman, he looks to stoic all the time expect when he's enjoying the suffering of others.

>>138853440
Meh, the really important thing is that they will be revealing more info about the new Tales of anime: https://twitter.com/TOZtheX/status/697399063814098947

>>138876868
Its part of the reason he gets along with his wife so much

Sex with her is just her is probably a lot of twitching, convulsing, and bleeding typically since she's so sickly.

She's a saint so she despairs often about not being able to help him more, and she's often in pain due to her illness. He loves every part of it, she's always suffering.

However he can't help hating himself for it as well, since this is wrong, he shouldn't be enjoying this part.

>>138876515
Large oppai.

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>>138876868
>>138876553
Kirei is a bastard. I'd fuck his daughter senseless to get back at him.

>>138872154
They're sitting down and contemplating their life choices. The first is from the first episode of Zero, while the latter two are from the last episode of UBW.

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goodness I wish I had these

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>>138877882
>The secretion of sexual fluids remains at a nominal rate
We have an expert at sex here.

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>>138877963
This is wrong

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>>138877963

>>138878010
>>138877963
Please tell me they still sell these?

Maybe as a bootleg?

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>>138877963
>>138878010

stop

>>138878067
like fuck if I know, I just saw 'em in the buyfag thread once upon a time

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>>138878089
there's only two pictures, it's not like there's a third and fourth side to a daki

ps taiga a cute

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>>138878010

>>138876268
>go with Gil and Shirou instead, which is shit because it doesn't have something like this going for it.

Archer vs Shirou is defining and most important fight in UBW, but Shirou vs Gil serves as the capping off of all the ideas presented before it.

The biggest theme in UBW is "imitation", and whether or not imitating others is wrong. Gil is the original hero, with all the original weapons, with a desire that is completely on the opposite spectrum from Shirou.

Shirou on the other hand is the imitation hero who makes imitation weapons, and now is being forced to put his money where his mouth is, and prove he has what it takes.

The Archer fight is Shirou showing that he has the will to keep believing in his ideal. The Gil displays that he can follow through.

In the end, he beats the bad guy, saves the city, and commits his first act that truly saves lives.