More like Welcome to the NTR am I right

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>>138850315
Just finished watching it today so much feels at the end ;-;

>Implying NTR is bad

>>138850405
Misaki is a fucking miracle of the universe though.

>>138850315
>Oyasumi
Who is this?

cucked

>>138850697
I think they were the first group to sub them back in 06. As far as memory serves.

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>>138850417

>>138850769
Yamazaki, you traitor.

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>>138850819
Not even 5 seconds later.

>>138850868
Ayy, I was looking for that.

I remember waiting for the subs of the final episode around mid December 2006.

Why didn't he just go work at McDonald's for his money instead of that construction place?

He coulda met QTs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e-zAljAgqs

>>138850954
Customer facing work, are you mazed? He'd only just gathered the will to go out.

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>>138850950
He didn't learn from his mistake anyway

God Dam I wish I had a girl like. Misaki in my life. She's so cute fuckkk

>>138851256
Yep, silly shit, then he fucks off to the countryside.

>>138851282
Anon, there are many cute girls with BPD who want an emotional anchor while they're too batshit to do anything.

>>138850954
why are you posting this all over 4chan

>"NTR" instead of that "c" word in 2016 /a/

Thank you, OP. /a/ isn't as newfag-filled as I thought after all.

why didn't satou and yamazaki just turn gay together?

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>>138850498
>>138851282
Thanks for not understanding the entire point of the anime

>>138851511
I don't give a shit. Once her emotinal disaster is sorted out, she'll become actual wife material, unlike most waifus out there.

>>138851511
It doesn't matter as long as she looks cute and innocent.

>>138851511
Enlighting me pls
>pancake captcha

>>138851419
Kill yourself retard.

>>138851634
It never does anon. It never does, and obviously you won't be the pillar that could, hipothethically, sort her disaster out.

>>138851634
>as long as you remove/ignore all the things that make her the character she is, she'll be waifu material
I get it now. So that's how people like her.

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>>138851511
Yeah because it was indeed a conspiracy

>>138851419
I never liked that word anyway. I've been rewatching it ever since it aired every once twice a year because it's so damn great

A bit unrelated but has anyone ever found that instrumental version of "that" song?

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Manga Misaki is superior.

>>138851634
The emotional disaster is the best part

>>138851634
One of the main points in the novel is that they'll probably continually struggle with their issues. They can abate them but not make them disappear.

>>138851986
I'm peeved that I watched the anime and found out later how much better the manga was. And the anime is already very good

>>138851908
>characters can't change

>>138851986
Sometimes, maybe.

>>138851994
Noone said disappear, just sort them out so they don't keep screwing it all up for her.

>>138851986
Manga is worse at literally everything.

It's amazing how they managed to fuck up the plot so much that even the awful anime original arcs are better than the manga deviation.

I cant recall the last time we had a "I just finished Welcome to the NHK and..." thread.

>>138852037
I like the manga more but the anime is still worth watching for the music alone, it makes some of the scenes really powerful.

>>138852051
True, i think though regardless things will be difficult, it'll be a background radiation in their minds and relationships.

Mental illness is not easy to live with in a relationship.

>>138851634
Once she sorts out her emotional and familial conflict she has no reason to associate with Satou anymore. Remember Satou doesn't have many opportunities to turn his life around, the best he's looking at is a low paying salary job that'll consume all his time or minimum wage work. He's lost most of his social connections and the respect of his family. Misaki still has further schooling to rebuild her life and social connections, she's would constantly be surrounded with opportunity to rebuild her social life.

>>138852037
If you want the actual story just read the LN. Manga completely butchered the point of the series with the romance and it's horrible ending. And no, it's not better than the anime, at least the anime ending is much more similar in tone to the LN ending.

>>138850315
https://vndb.org/v14824

>>138852193
That's fine, Satou is an idiot anyway.

>>138852315
That's was the point of NHK though. At a certain point recovery outweighs effort so it's better to live on rock bottom as remission is too easy. Even the author stated how after NHK his own life remissioned back and he was never ever to garner the popularity as he did with this work in other works. NHK is a story of addicts, in the LN the frequent use of drugs by satou and his friends was more focused on, they're all depressed drug addicts.

What's the difference between the endings? I've only seen the anime ending.

>>138852193
She's lonely just as Saturo is and she has a major crush on him fuck you triggered

>>138852456
The manga ending was something ridiculous with Misaki and Satou in the aparment while it gets torn down and they express their true feelings for each other.

>>138852457
Crushes don't last, social standings, age difference, and various other issues would make it harder and harder for Satou and Misaki to continue their already strained and forced relationship. They both use each other as an emotional crutch but in both situation they make significant effort just to even meet because their social circles are so apart.

>>138852419
>>138852193
This is the reason why the manga ending is awful, it has Satou and Yamazaki working at their dream job, Misaki finishing school and everyone is fucking happy, it completely misses the point.

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>>138852457
>TFW when your waifu finds a better life and moves on

>>138852529
Yeah, I just speed-read the last two chapters. It seems like they go back and forth. I'm kind of confused. So they decide to fall in love with each other for real this time? In the anime, they both go back to college and kind of like each other? In the LN, there's drug use and I heard it was closer to the anime, but I'm not all with it.

I don't care for a story about druggies.

>>138852456
Manga ending has Satou and Yamazaki working as professional game devs, Misaki in college, Sempai as a really happy housewife and Misaki and Satou in a relationship after she waited for him to fix his life.

LN ending is pretty much the same as the anime ending, by the way, with a somewhat darker tone.

>>138852639
That sounds like fantasy bullshit Satou would wake up the next morning from.

>>138852557
They're like, what, 4 years apart? The other ones don't really matter at all. I think you're just smoking some stuff. How are their social circles so apart? She has no friends and has a religious family. He has friends and a normal family. They're both miserable fucks.

>>138852674
Exactly why the manga is awful and anyone saying otherwise simply didn't get the point of the story.

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>>138852557

>>138852557
1 million yen penalty

>>138852625
Drugs are something you naturally end up doing when you're at the rock bottom of life.
It's not like they're presented as something awesome that everyone should do, it's being realistic about it.

>>138852767
It worries me that the file name is simply "image"

>>138852824
Yeah, I know. I just can't get into something that involves drugs or anything like that. I could get into the anime and maybe the manga. Especially when I was at a bad point in my life, but I never turned to drugs to get away. Maybe that's why I look down on so many people who do.

>>138852675
At the end of the LN Satou is a laborer, meaning he's working 10+ hour jobs. Misaki is trying to recover her school life, meaning that most of her time will be spent in school and after school clubs. Unless they both give up and instead indulge themselves in hanging out with each other as emotional crutches like they were. If they do continue their relationship it will be a return to status quo. All of Satou's friends are drug users or under debt/hardship so he has to distance himself from his own personal social connections otherwise remission. So essentially Satou path to recovery and regaining financial independence is to start over with absolutely nothing. Misaki has the safety net of still being in school and having all the opportunity to recover her social life.

It also hurts Satou that he never made relevant connections socially in school.

Essentially the best thing Satou can do is support Misaki as much as he can emotionally until she's ready to move on. He's made too many mistakes to keep pretending he can turn everything around like a child.

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For some reason I like the Suicide Island arc,even though they made it more dramatic when it ends unlike how it was in the manga

>>138852966
Yeah, but why would she suddenly be able to move on? If she was falling into this behavior then there's a small doubt she can escape it any easier. I also wouldn't consider being in school a safety net. She still needs to make it out alive with a good grade. If she fucks that up, it's going to be a lot hard to get a job and fixing relationships in High School is hard. There's more people to make friends with, but in the manga she only had 6 months until graduation so she really doesn't have the time to fix everything if their timelines are the same.

As a laborer, he might be able to meet new people, but even then the 10+ hour days aren't as bad (or pay as much) as a Japanese salaryman who literally non-stop works until retirement or death. So there's still plenty of time to hang out with Misaki and help her recover in her grades.

I somehow doubt someone like her will be able to recover. Their best bets is to try and find the support into each other.

>>138852881
Well, back when I watched the show and read the book I was pretty depressed too but even though I had never done drugs at that point I could still sympathize with the characters in the LN. I just accept drugs as something pretty normal to do when you're feeling like shit (or even in a recreational way like weed).

Give it a try, it's not like it's a huge focus.

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>>138851644
>Misaki is more fucked up than Satou.
>Yamakazi is best girl.
>Only you can save yourself.

There, I just gave you a crash course on Welcome to the NHK.

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>>138851644
>>pancake captcha

>>138853098
manga fucked it up

seriously just read the LN

>>138853173
Give the novel a try or drugs?

>>138851511
You repeat this so much that i'ma start calling it a meme. Misaki didn't save Satoru, but she push him to do so, not only that but she also give him a reason to live, if you think that Misaki didn't help Satoru at all then you are missing the point of the anime.

>>138853155
I'm sorry, I'm guessing you never worked 10-14 labor jobs before. Most of the time after working that much you just want to go home lie down and zone out to tv, or anime.

With schools usually they give you the opportunity to graduate on time with your class if you put the full effort this means focusing academically and participating in club actives. Depending on the club it takes till late afternoon or early evening to finish and after this students either go to a tutor or they go home to do their studies.

Lastly in NHK Satou throughout his relationship goes into further decline in his personal and professional life as instead of resolving his issues and drug addictions he goes to Misaki for reassurance and to insure that Misaki doesn't leave him for his further failures. It's just not a healthy relationship, ever.

So a continued relationship implies remission and the NEET life for both of them. Or at the very least Satou.

>>138850315
>>138850315
Misaki
is
a
shit

>>138853344
The novel, dude.


I did start smoking weed occasionally recently, it's actually not horrible but I've never been high enough for it to be worth it, then again I've never paid money so I don't really care.

>>138851511
Dude I understood the point of the story but God Dam a girl like Misaki is 10/10 even if she is batshit insane with cluster b personality disorder. Like I'm practically a neet (except I go to school so I guess not) but I want someone like that to save me from my boring Miserable life where I just study calculus and mechanics every day then jack off to some hentai and call it a day. Literally has been my life for six months and I'm bored as Fuck. Atleast summer is coming soon

>>138854143
At least it has only been six months for you

>>138854143
You have to be 18 to post here.

>>138850315
I really wanted to watch this show for the subject matter but I sorta don't want to watch it for the fear of being super depressed.

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>>138854892
It's no different from looking at yourself in the mirror if you're already super depressed. (Like OP.)

>>138854231
I'm 19 you Fuck

>>138854143
Adding on I'm commuting while studying engineering it's fucking awful>>138854143

>>138852639
That sounds terrible. I liked some of the added arcs from the anime like that girl that contacted Sato for that pyramid scheme. I enjoyed that, but some of the other aspects of the anime were just very dramatic, especially when comparing it to the LN. It still was enjoyable.

I am just wondering what Sato ended up doing afterwards, did he just try to make it by or did he force himself into other experiences in life. Well that isn't for the story to answer because it was more of the journey from being a hikkikomori to someone who is capable of supporting themselves out of necessity.

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>>138855110
>meme arrows outside of 4chan

>>138855884
The "added arcs" are pretty much straight off of the manga, readapted into a different tone. The anime is more a loose adaptation of the manga than the novel, up until the climax.

"Professional game devs" is just Anon's interpretation. I took it as it's just a thing they're keeping at.

>>138856359
The anime is a lot closer to the LN than the manga, specially considering how much the manga deviates from the source.

And about the original arcs, the pyramidal scheme arc isn't that similar considering how the manga goes more in depth about Pres' brother. I can't even remember if the MMO arc was in the manga either.

Also, as far as I remember Satou says he's doing creative work and there is a screen with a message from Yamazaki asking him for his scenario. I think it's pretty clear they're still releasing games, even if they do it in an indie way, that's considered professional nowadays.

>>138856774
The brother and MMO arc weren't even present in the novel, nor was suicide island, any depth with the side characters, etc. The core story is based off the novel, but everything in-between is loosely covering the manga, including the MMO arc. The anime was only funded to promote the manga. At any rate, they're all still separate entities.

Satou ended up still doing mindless part-time work, while scenario writing on the side, just like his NEET days. If releasing indie games is considered professional, guess me and OP's shitty galge is professional too.

>>138856774
>LN
It's a novel, not a LN.

>>138857192
I'm halfway through the novel, and glad that that suicide arc isn't in it. I cringed my way through that in the anime, and I didn't know how I was going to hold myself together reading it.

>>138859296
Depends what you consider a LN. If you really want to get technical, it was a web novel first.

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>People who thought the manga was absolutely terrible and missed the whole point of the story exist

Thank you for restoring my faith in this world. The manga was a fucking abomination.

>>138860360
Yeah, man
WTF was up with the Kaichou's NEET brother becoming a chad and boning Misaki?
And also that shit about Yamazaki making money for sex change of that trap waiter who works at the maid cafe he visited
And also Satou becoming full NEET and fucking off back to his parent's home
I thought I was reading some shitty gag manga there

>>138862278
>trap waiter
Fuck don't remind me. DON'T REMIND ME.
This fucking arc, I hate it so much. I hate it. I fucking hate it. I will hate it in my entire life and I will hate it in my death.

>>138862349
Yeah
pretty much dropped the manga there

I love this meme.

>>138852193
>loves doesn't exist
You know, there is some people out there that genuinely want a relationship not driven by money.

Not everybody is a dirty american.

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>>138865406
>bringing up how much you hate America out of nowhere

Why is the rest of the world so tsundere towards us?

>>138862278
Boning Misaki? What are you on about?

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>>138865943
he didn't actually bone Misaki, but came very close

this was in the manga

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>>138854892
It's worth it m8

>>138866414
I really struggle to remember a lot of the manga. But I was certain I'd remember her actually banging someone else.

Wasn't this in the time when Satou got pissed off with her?