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TTGL went to shit when Kamina disappeared.
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>>138813200
that's a common opinion, and a fucking pleb one at that
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>>138813200
You think that because you're bad at coping with loss.

That just means the story did it's job.

If it simulates the emotions you feel when your dog dies, that's not BAD plot, that's GOOD plot.

You faggots being unable to parse decent story development from good feels/boners is why the anime industry is cram packed with moe shit instead of anything decent.

>Unpopular opinions thread
Now watch all the neckbeards start bitching at me without realizing.
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>>138813200
the only shit part of TTGL is the timeskip before they go to space
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>>138813298
People who say Death Note went to shit after L died are the same way. You shouldn't hate a story for killing off your favorite character, you should praise it for making a character you care about dying.
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Kamina was cool but killing him off was for the best, shit would've gotten old if he stayed alive the entire time
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>>138813298
>You think that because you're bad at coping with loss.

Not him but that's not why EVERYONE thinks it's bad.

It's bad because it's a bait and switch. The show is portrayed as this awesome super robot tribute with one of the manliest characters to grace mecha, or even anime period, in a long time. Then not even halfway through the series, not only does the character just disappear (the fact that he died isn't really that important, just that he's not on screen), but the show completely changes. It drastically goes from manly robot action to emo faggot with a loli in a box girlfriend trash. And it doesn't get good again until like the last episode, which is literally copy/paste from Zambot 3 and Getter Robo, so it's not that exciting anyway and is too little too late.
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>>138813399
>You shouldn't hate a story for killing off your favorite character

Death Note didn't go to shit because L died, Death Note went to shit because the writer had no idea what to do with the story anymore and it became fucking terrible. L dying is merely a landmark.
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>>138813466
>to emo faggot
he shakes his "emo" in like 3 episodes

he becomes kamina+

look at the glasses, more points = more cool
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>>138813466
It's a coming of age story, dipshit.

It makes perfect sense for the story to change in tone and theme as it goes on.

You would know that if you could comprehend the fact that shows can actually have MEANING behind what they're showing you besides the mindless entertainment you manchildren want (Coincidentally, that's probably why you don't understand the point of coming of age stories. You never experienced that.).

You fuckers are so dense, I swear to god.
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Satoru didn't get cucked, or NTR'd.

It's obvious that Satoru, and Kayo were in an intimate relationship.

Toradora is shit.

Ergo Proxy is boring shit.

Sailor Moon R is repetitive boring shit.

Slice of Life is shit.

It is ambiguous whether Lelouch died, or not.
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>>138813200
All of ttgl was shit, funny smelling shit, but still shit.
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Most shounen is shit.
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>>138813466
>It drastically goes from manly robot action to emo faggot with a loli in a box girlfriend trash.
For precisely one episode, and it's expected because Simon's fucking brother just died in front of his eyes.
It was always good even after that, you're just a big whiny baby.
If you think the show is shit without Kamina, get the fuck out and stop pretending to enjoy Gurren Lagann, because you obviously couldn't give a shit.
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raildex is shit
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Airi is a shit.
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>>138813673
>If you think the show is shit without Kamina, get the fuck out and stop pretending to enjoy Gurren Lagann

Are you misunderstanding the point of the thread? Also that's complete bullshit saying it's only one episode, it's for the entire rest of the show until the very end where they suddenly realize they forgot to develop Simon into Kamina and just stick point glasses on him literally out of nowhere. Great character development!
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>>138813614
>Satoru didn't get cucked, or NTR'd.
>It's obvious that Satoru, and Kayo were in an intimate relationship.
Precisely.

>Toradora is shit.
It was alright.

>Ergo Proxy is boring shit.
I found it mildly enjoyable. Took me back to the comfy philosophy classes in high school.

>Sailor Moon R is repetitive boring shit.
Yet I still found it enjoyable (many years ago).

>Slice of Life is shit.
Yeah.

>It is ambiguous whether Lelouch died, or not.
Yes.
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Haruhi's episode order is a stupid gimmick used to prop up a bad show.
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>>138813200
I don't think Fate/stay night is a good series
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Kaminas death made sense and was needed for Simon to grow as a character. Nia's death on the other hand was fucking stupid and forced and still pisses me off to this day
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The first two seasons of Black Butler are criminally under rated, and very interesting if you view them through a non-homo lens.

>>138814023
This is not controversial. It's a good premise tied to a bad story.
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Yu Yu Hakusho is better than Hunter x Hunter
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>>138814103
I think you might be right.
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I couldn't get through the first three episodes of Bakemonogatari cause I was bored as fuck. I always want to give it another try though because the girls are cute.
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>>138813673
I love how a cock smell after cycling for tens of miles and reading some good doujins for hours after that.

That smell is my aphrodisiac. Not even gay, it fucking turns me on.

>>138814050
Yeah.

I've watched both seasons, and they had a solid story. The homo stuff isn't as much as in your face as people say.

There's a scene when the mc has to crossdress at a ball and Sebastian has to put a corset on him, but that's not sexual at all.
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1. Monster is one of the dullest, ugliest anime to ever receive such highl acclaim.
2. Baccano! is shit.
3. The more educated you are, the less LOGH will impress you.
4. My Neighbor Totoro is Miyazaki's worst film.
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>>138814178
>4. My Neighbor Totoro is Miyazaki's worst film.
this isn't a controversial opinion it's just a bad one
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>>138814178
Ok, you made me mad with the Baccano! one.
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>>138814205
Nope. Even Ponyo and the Wind Rises are better.
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>>138814178
1. True.
2. It's okay for action, "shit" seems harsh.
3. I have a BSE and LOGH was very impressive to me, strictly speaking in terms of the anime medium.
4. True, it eludes me how anyone above the age of 4 would find it even amusing let alone entertaining.
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any show longer than 80 episodes is not worth my fuckin time
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>>138813200
Considering it's my favorite anime, I humbly disagree. I think the show is a roller coaster that goes up and stays there. I thought Nias death was okay, but I understand why people don't like it.
Unpopular opinion: Saving a girl from being brutally murdered doesn't mean she has to fuck you
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I don't really watch SOL, but I don't hate people who do.

>>138814255
I liked it because of the beautiful art style, not really because of the story.
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>>138814277
If your time is so worthless you post on /a/, this is distinctly untrue.
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Rie Matsumoto is the best new director of the last 10 years.
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Akira was generic and nothing special

NGE was nothing special just a boring SoL until the end where it went 3deep5me

The romance in Toradora felt extremely off because Taiga looked like a kid and was half the size of Ryuuji
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>>138814277
You're missing out.

this is both a controversial opinion and a reply
One Piece is fucking amazing all the way to the reunion, which is around episode 520. After that it all goes downhill.

Bleach is solid, and even the fillers are worth watching.

LoGH may be boring, but it's definitely worth the watch.
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Lain is pretentious crap that people pretend to like to seem intelligent

I like the aesthetic, I like how slow the pacing is, but pretty much everything else is just schlock
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Fafner in the Azure in it's entirety is a better tribute to Science Fiction Mecha of the 70s than Gurren Lagannn
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>>138814375
>Akira was generic and nothing special
Akira is an extremely hyphenated version of an amazing manga. People praise the film for its animation and aesthetic, which are absolutely amazing.

>NGE was nothing special just a boring SoL until the end where it went 3deep5me
This is just patently false.
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>>138814375
Akira was a technical marvel, and that is its great claim to historical fame. Like Citizen Kane, it's not really something that people watch just to watch a good movie.
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Battle shounen is pretty much terrible across the board. I understand the appeal but I find it unwatchable. Even as a kid I thought DBZ was shit.
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>>138814375
If you don't like it that's one thing, but saying it's "generic and nothing special" makes you sound either underage or like a new anime fan. It revolutionized the cyberpunk genre and the movie is widely recognized and one of the most important anime films of all time.
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>>138813200
>disappeared

You can just say dead, anon. The show is almost a decade old.
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Anime actually IS getting worse, it's not just you getting older.
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the ending of madoka rebellion is a retarded cashgrab that makes me hate the series more in retrospect
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Shin Sekai Yori is boring piece of crap where only passable characters are Squealer and Kiroumaru. Main heroine and her boyfriends were dull as fuck.
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>>138814593
Nope, it bottomed out in the early-mid 2000's
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>>138814619
This is only a controversial opinion among Madokafags. Rational human beings recognize that the movie is shit.
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>>138814625
Agree, but I also find the telomere regenerating woman interesting.
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Clannad + AS (anime) & Angel beats aren't sad, they are pretty shit, boring and contrived.
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One Piece has some of the ugliest character designs I've ever seen
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>>138814619
>>138814666
Madoka is one of my top three anime of all time, and I'm still too afraid to actually watch Rebellion and only sort of know what happens.
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I genuinely think Bleach minus fillers is the Best of the mainstream anime.
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>>138814619
This. It's 100% a cash grab. What makes it worse is that Madoka was one of the most tightly paced and plotted anime we've seen in years. There was no need to beat a fucking dead horse.
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>>138814701
By that same token every drama is contrived, the fact that clannads characters were endearing is what made the show sad
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>>138814709
This isn't controversial, it's just that most fans think they're funny.
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>>138814717
in my opinion rebellion is a mess of a movie that brings some interesting ideas to the table and is a visual feast but also offers a lot of trash and muddies up the series with unnecessary characters and elements and "plot twists"

watch at your own caution
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>>138814709
they're weird at first but they grow on you
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>>138814743
Japan also has that whole obsession with creepy-cute aesthetics which could explain some of the awful looking characters as well
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>>138814709
I don't hate the designs, but I hate post timeskip redesign, it's like mangaka made worst choices possible.
>Luffy looks the same even though he should be 20 by now
>Nami went from sporty qt with short hair to some glamorous bikini bitch
>Robin gets shittier hairstyle and shittier clothes, we'll never see cowboy girl Robin again
And so on
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>>138814709
>>138814743
>>138814793

off yourselves
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>>138814832
To be fair, she was introduced when Oda's editors were still trying to keep his designs in the realm of human anatomy. You've seen his modern ladies.
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>>138814736
>your wife is now dead
>even though it took 20 or so years for this non specific "curse" to kill your wife it will kill your daughter in 5
>coincidentally just in time to fix everyone's shit up
>jk they are not dead
Sure, I beat you also liked Charlotte as well
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>>138814856
post-timeskip? yeah,

things lost their charm and some look straight up bizarre
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>>138814050
The second season of Kuroshitsuji sucked and isn't even canon, but the third is pretty good and the manga is actually really enjoyable. I prefer to see it through a homo lens and it isn't subtle about the pandering, but aside from that I love the mangaka's sense of aesthetics. The art, settings, costume and character design etc are very appealing.
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>>138814931
>third

Wait, there's a third?
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>>138814931
The Second Season is great and just as canon as the first, which veers off wildly after the curry battle. I maintain that it's much better without the homo, which completely removes any kind of intrigue from the Butler/Master relationships.
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>>138814625
The main characters were bland and boring as hell and I spent a lot of the series hating them for it, but somehow by the end I still loved it overall and couldn't stop thinking about it. It was impactful and well executed enough that I could overlook such a big flaw, especially thanks to the ending, but it's disappointing because if they were more engaging it would honestly be a masterpiece.
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>>138813200
I guarantee you everyone would have been bored shitless of Kamina if he was around the whole time. He was already completely developed by the time the show started, which is why everyone liked him so much. If he stayed alive it literally would have been the exact same character for 27 episodes.
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>>138814869
I mean, it wasn't a curse just illness both times, but if that's what you have an issue with then I guess you're either missing my point or lack basic human empathy in which case it should be abundantly clear why you don't enjoy these shows.
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>>138814970
The homo doesn't detract from what I personally enjoy most about it, which is the 'atmosphere' I guess. I think it's done as sensually as possible without being lewd or played off as a joke, it's kind of hard to describe but it has a different feel to normal fujo pandering.

If you're not into homo I wouldn't expect you to feel the same so that's fair enough. I don't think there's any romantic undertones between Sebastian and Ciel so their relationship remains unaffected to me, it's pretty much just vaguely sexual imagery and I think it suits the visuals of the manga in general.
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>>138813399
Death Note was shit from the beginning...
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>>138815196
It is something specifically for angry teenagers in the "I am fucking superior" phase that get hard at the thought of being god-like and having the power to indiscriminately kill anyone you want. If you watch/read it after that, most if not all of the appeal will be lost.
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>>138815184
I just think it's a shame, because everyone who stuck around for season 2 was in it for the homo and walks away disappointed. I love it, because it continues what I found enjoyable in BB, which was the exploration of power play between servants and masters who are both attempting to get something very tangible from the relationship, while walking the knife edge of amicability that develops from spending all your time with someone.

Ultimately, I guess I was just sort of lucky to be too naive to realize there was any sexual subtext when I watched it, otherwise I probably wouldn't have enjoyed it as much.
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>>138815196
The plot is pretty good.
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>>138813200
My Normie sister dropped the show after he died
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>>138813200
Kamina was a shitty plot device.
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>>138815325
I don't think the viewer is supposed to be rooting for Light.
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KyoAni is the synonym of wasted potencial.
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While I think all of TTGL was shit, OPs opinion is actually a pretty common one.
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Tamako Market was a masterpiece, while Love Story suffered a bit from a lack of build-up to be on par with something like toradora

I enjoy every Kyoani show, but I still haven't watched Free!

I found Aria to be quite dull, and Tamayura to be superior in all aspects.

Combattler V's first half > Voltes V > Combattler V's second half
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>>138813200
Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works was rather enjoyable.
>Now we wait
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>>138821037
I actually agree, anon.
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>>138821116
We're going to burn together
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>>138821159
I'm with you.
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>controversial.
No, He was a fucking awful character, Even if he lived Simon and Rossiu were still better.
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>>138814103
Most late 80's and early 90's anime were perhaps the pinnacle of the genre.
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second half of ttgl is better written than the frist
if you don't see it you're a baby crying for muh kamina
also Rossiu is the best written character
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>>138813200
>Controversial
No, that's correct.
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>>138815003
except that's why the show goes downhill when he dies. everyone else isn't as developed as he was and Simon develops in to a one-dimensional version of him. he feels like a cheap Kamina by the end of the series. Viral was a better character than he was.
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Gainax is the best anime studio ever in terms of series
every gainax is original is a classic
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>>138813399
>dumbing down the protag so you can force muh downfall ending
At least make it believeable.
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>>138813200
Kamina was a weak faggot and Simon was always destined to be the great Spiral Warrior.

Also: Yoko is the worst girl in all anniemays including ones she wasn't even in. Fuck her.
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>>138821692
>Fuck her.
Unfortunately nobody did.
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>>138813200
It already was.
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All Kamina's purpose was to tell Simon and everyone to grow balls and die. Pretty much a living plot device.
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>>138815325
I liked for all the melodramatic posturing while doing simple things like eating potato chips
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>>138823442
This. Kamina was just a younger Obi-Wan
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>>138813591
Welcome to the TTGL fanbase

>>138813656
Outside of /a/, this is controversial. In /a/, it's an accepted fact.

>>138813776
>Are you misunderstanding the point of the thread?
To be fair, the point doesn't keep your opinion from being shit on.
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>>138821609
>titties for no reason
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That's not even remotely controversial that's a pleb as fuck opinion.
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>>138813200
He died a virgin.
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>>138823819
no way, he porked every single woman in their village
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>>138813200
>controversial
No that just being retarded.

>>138814375
>NGE is slice of life

>>138821609
Is this controversial?
People love old Gainax.

>>138823882
No he didn't.
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>Kamina
>Manly

Is this what 12 year olds actually believe? I mean don't get me wrong

He's right in the sense he stands for what he believes in no matter what

but most fucking people I asked IRL say because he's loud and fucks shit up which It kinda works but still
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The ants had better character development and should have won
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>>138824195
The first time I dropped TTGL, it was because of how fucking annoying Kamina was. I thought he was legitimately retarded. After I learned he dies I picked up again but dropped it again when Nia shows up and the overall terrible writing. Never even made it to the timeskip.
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>>138824195
>which It kinda works
This is what separates bravery from foolishness.
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>>138824337
>>138824399

Plotwist anon I never watched TTGL and I was pulling that out of my ass
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>>138824337
What is so terrible about the writing?
As someone who finished it, I think it's pretty good.
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>>138824418
well it was accurate

good work
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>>138824420
Kamina deciding to smash two mecha together on a whim and finding it makes them a lot stronger.
Lagann suddenly being able to move on its own and broke Simon out of prison. (dropped it there)
Yoko's entire existence
Poor side characters
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>>138824525
But it's cool. TTGL is supposed to be an anime about hard work and guts.
It's the whole point, the anime is a parody as far as I know.
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>>138813200
It got better.
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>>138814023
Plenty of people who'd read the VN don't like the series either, which happenes most of the time with VN adaptations.
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>>138824580
Sure, its cool. I did find Simon's little speech about how he's not Kamina and Kamina isn't here anymore (despite becoming a carbon copy of him) fun but it doesn't excuse how terribly written it was. Anyone can throw money at something and make it look cool, but it doesn't make it good.
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>>138824525
>Kamina deciding to smash two mecha together on a whim and finding it makes them a lot stronger.

Don't know what you are talking about.

>Lagann suddenly being able to move on its own and broke Simon out of prison.

Gets justified later, if you pay attention.

>Yoko's entire existence

I don't like her either.

>Poor side characters

Who? Kittan? Rossiu?

Just finish watching it.
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>>138814375
You r a fucking retard and u proudly show it
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>>138825072
read the rules
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>>138824885
>Don't know what you are talking about.
Kamina was trying to use Lagann as a headpiece and found that combining actually made them stronger.
>Gets justified later, if you pay attention.
Does it matter if it comes later? Its still a deus ex machina and it ruined the moment it was supposed to make "look cool"
>Who?
All of them. Kittan has a pretty likable personality, and I heard good things about Viral but I don't even remember the names of any other side character.
>Just finish watching it.
No thanks, I got better mecha to watch.
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>>138825124
>Kamina was trying to use Lagann as a headpiece and found that combining actually made them stronger.

Can't really excuse that, just view it as a dumb joke or an homage.

>Does it matter if it comes later?

It does. Throughout the whole show you get little hints and you aren't directly told what it means.

>All of them.

Bullshit. Kittan, Rossiu, Viral and the final antagonist were great.
Unimportant side characters are unimportant so stop whining.
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>>138814439
>>138814537
I watched Akira a few weeks ago and didn't think it was anything special. I know it's very influential and I'm sure it was probably good during its time but I found the story and characters very mediocre, just some edgy kid going on a rampage. To me it was like Redline, just nice animation and nothing else.
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>>138825396
>Unimportant side characters are unimportant
>this is what newfags like to believe
A well rounded cast is important, and TTGL is as far from it as SAO is.
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>>138825637
>A well rounded cast is important
>Kittan, Rossiu, Viral and the final antagonist were great.

You didn't even finish it, how can you judge it.
GL changes quiet a bit throughout.
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>>138813200
Rather than an opinion let me present you with a fact: Getter Emperor > STTGL.
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>>138826087
Every element of Getter Rays was better than Spiral Power, despite being almost a complete copy of it.
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>>138826312
But Spiral Power was the copy of Getter Rays, Getter Rays have been around for decades.
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>>138826365
That's what I meant, I worded that poorly.
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>>138813200
I think Code Geass is legitimately good.

I cannot stand Panty and Stocking (though I do like the artstyle)

K-ON!'s first season was slightly better than the second season.

Herewego.jpg
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>>138826312
>>138826365
>>138826424
I find it funny how srw staff take the two to be essentially the same shit, to the point that a Getter Beam can power up GL like this.
https://youtu.be/7urHc3uHIPo?t=25m45s
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>>138820609
Toradora is shit. Tamako Love Story represents everything that Tamako Market could have been, which is to say Tamako Market without the bird or the stupid Islander subplot.
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