You mean Berserk where every character is Guts with boobs?
It's...okay. The War in the North and the immediate aftermath of the "timeskip" with everyone playing cat-and-mouse with Riful and the Organization's new warriors was the best, and after that it meandered. Yagi seemed to lose track of what was going on after a while and when 90% of the cast looks exactly the same, it's kinda hard to give a shit.
The anime: Yes, until it diverged from the manga.
The manga: Yes.
Yagi was getting tired.
This series was full of missed opportunities. The problem is that the author didn't know what he did well, and what he did shit.
-Crazy sword techniques
-Relations between the Claymores
-Villains with personality and drive (e.g., abyssal ones)
-Human sameface designs
-The main villain, Priscilla. Priscilla was so fucking shit, and such an enormous drag on the series I really have no words for it. Her existence alone drags Claymore down by 2 points minimum.
It was meh. Nun was the best thing that came out from it.
It was had some high points and low points. Priscilla's infinite regeneration was dumb, dull, and bullshit. Teresa out of nowhere was the only saving grace of the whole Priscilla business.
Anime started out looking like it was going to be marvelous, but was immensely disappointing.
Is an interesting world with well conceived, interesting characters really that hard to pull off?
The manga sucked ass and most of the plot points such as the naked physique of the warriors was just plain fucking disappointing.
The final arc developed Claire into the ultimate Mary Sue which was the most disappointing part of it all. I didn't like Raki, but seeing how it all ended in the manga, I'd rather have seen him take a more pivotal role, considering he was trained by an abyssal one.
I guess the point is that Priscilla got the drop on her because Theresa let her guard down out of pity.
But yeah, the scenes kind of read like Theresa wasn't really conceived of as that completely bullshit until later, making her earlier scenes odd in retrospect.
Teresa was always complete bullshit mode since the start. I mean, she was only half serious when she was fighting a nearly fully awakened Pris.
There was also this one chapter where she ripped an awakened being apart with her bare hand. I don't remember any other warrior with the same stupid raw strength.
>If Theresa was so absurdly overpowered, how come Priscilla managed to kill her?
Let her guard down and had pity.
Never watched the anime and, if I'm remembering this right, I think the manga ended around the same time Franken Fran (or just when I got to it) did so it just sort of lost me. I'd have to reread at this point.
Last thing I remember is Claire coming back. Did they fuck up that badly? I was already kind of losing interest.
>A monastic cult of sexy, half human female crusaders wander medieval Europe fighting satanic, human eating, former human monsters (with awesome designs) in hard gore, bloody melees.
Amazing. Where can you take my money?
>MC turns out to be the complete runt of the order
Interesting. You have my attention.
>She has a cute, virginal, straight shota orphan boy tagalong to help her in her struggle for humanity and self acceptance
I have no words to describe this peculiar feeling, but my bulging erection informs me that this can only be a very good thing.
>It turns into an endless and repetitive shounen powerup sword slasher with a barely patched together plot
Wasted potential. I wanted more of the mainland info.
Monsters were awesome, politics and way of life was great.
Samefaces were awful though. Always got people mixed up, especially with monthly releases.
Claire should have learned from Raki how to be more gentle / caring / ect.
Raki should have learned from Claire how to be more decisive / assertive
It could have been a beautiful /ss/ relationship
Why did everyone dislike Raki? He didn't particularly influence the manga that much, and he was just a kid most the series. Got pretty manly later on, but they still showed the difference between awakened beings and the pinnacle of humanity.
You need to consider that Mangaka are primarily artists. Someone being both a good writer and a good artist is extremely rare simply because people tend to focus on one or the other. Yagi would do extremely well if he was paired up with a writer. The same dynamic as Seki Hasemi and Kentaro Yabuki, Yabuki gives his writer a broad outline, the writer writes it into the plot, Yabuki draws it while suggesting other scenes he wants to draw.
Man, a chance to use
>back to >>>/v/
in one post? You're too kind, anon.
That implies it's not unheard of, or even rare.
The first thing the other Claymores think when they see Raki is that Clare is bringing him along as a fucktoy, which heavily implies it's not unusual among them, hence they aren't all carpet munchers, as much as you want them to be.
Clare sure as hell isn't anyway, in case her shoving Raki's face in her tits and kissing him wasn't enough of an indication.
Don't strong emotions make it harder to control their powers? Wouldn't sex be quite dangerous? Maybe not to the point of awakening but any degree of loss of control basically means Raki loses a limb or worse.
How hard was this guy getting cucked? And don't tell me he wasn't because he definitely was "I'm sleeping on the couch because my wife's boyfriend is sleeping over"-tier.
Too much powerlevels and rankings
Also the ability to use a sword very well apparently affects your monster form
>they are afraid of turning into monsters since they become mindless killers
>monsters are shown to be pretty smart and have their sanity. Only reason they kill is because they are fucking assholes. They were assholes to begin with and dont kill people since its illegal. Since being a monster is a death sentence they probably kill people since there are no penalties
I only remember that track that was used probably on 24th ep when they're running through this fucking winter place in the dark
the fuck I NEVER found it in any ost or whatever
and that the finale was absolute shit
Yeah it was neat. Basically female Berserk.
>tfw own the first 8-9 volumes and kept up with reading it before the timeskip
Got silly toward the end but eh it was bound to happen.
Best take that back. Raki will fuck you up.
>Only reason they kill is because they are fucking assholes
Yoma kill people to eat them, they have an urge to do so it's not deliberate even though they enjoy it. They're only assholes when dealing with each other, since there's no incentive to fight other Yoma other than territory disputes.
Never seen a character ruin a plot this hard before. He's not even that bad of a character, it's just that everything from involving him, Clare, Isley and Priscilla, completely shat on the plot.
Also, fuck the Yoma and the awakened, why didn't we see any of the fucking dragons or whatever the fuck the monsters they made the Claymores to fight against are.
Angel Densetsu has many of the same problems. It's characters are just as samefaced, and the entire series revolves around one gag. Both lose their charm halfway through and become bland parts of their genres.
Did he also receive training from a magical wise negro mentor?
Best part about Claymore are the monster designs.
What is it with centaur monsters being archers?
Thanks anons. I'll see myself out.
I wanted her to get with Miria
>/u/ degenerates in Claymore thread
This is fucking new and obviously not a good thing.
Fuck off /u/ shitters, you have GATE threads to force your carpetmunchers fanfic.
>but it's not female Arnold Schwarzenegger.
>/u/ degenerates in Claymore thread
>This is fucking new
I feel like this can't possibly be true. I guess I haven't be a regular in Claymore threads, but huge chunks of the series have all female MCs. Many of these MC has intense friendships with each other. Much ado is made about these friendships, and the characters have tendencies to pair up.
I'm not saying this justifies anything, but I am saying that's how this shit happens.
Well, it is true. Claymore threads are usually filled with actual story discussions and powerlevel faggotry.
I don't even remember much waifu faggotry from those threads, let alone pairings.
Those stats were never accurate.
Here is Pris stats.
And here is Galatea's for comparison.
The Witcher book series started in the mid 80's. Regardless, the series have very little in common aside from half breeds hunting monsters, which isn't an uncommon premise to begin with. Anyone claiming they're similar is either retarded or trolling.
She mellowed out a lot after the timeskip.
the only thing heretical here is those legs
I think besides Claire, Galatea interacted with Miria the most. Maybe it's also because of their interactions in general and because people think they would look good together. I think the latter is also the reason why some Galatea/Flora exists.
>there will never be a claymore who shows affection towards you, takes you on a great adventure, sometimes molest you, teach you how to fight, then you became her partner.
She went way past the scale anyway, it would just be S on all. I mean she disposed of Priscilla easier than Priscilla disposes of Abyssals, she (combined with Clare) might as well have literally been that Godess at that point considering the absurd powerlevel.
Also anyone else find it hilarious how Japs pronounce Clare? It happens with a lot of western names but usually you can understand what they mean, I'm not sure I'd have understood that KUHREAH was Clare if it wasn't written.
I love how she implied the original her would still be able to dispose Pris easily.
Manga was fun. The bodyhorror aspect was a lof ot fun.
Anime was shit, but for the same reason Soul Eater was shit. Meaning: how exactly do you cram two years worth of chapters, that rean't even out at that time, into 5 episodes?
Not to mention you could actually sleep and feel at ease during daily life, not having to worry that whoever is near you has been torn apart by a Yoma who is right now hiding as him at your dinner table, never knowing when he's gonna massacre everybody while you can't do anything.
You might die horribly but until you do at least you don't have to assume everyone turn and might rip you apart any moment.
I enjoyed the manga until the ending. Not that the ending was bad, but because it completely wasted its potential by not kicking things into gear with a mainland exploration/conquest arc instead. Some really good fights here and there, shame how much the story fizzled.
Not going to the mainland was completely appropriate. It's not their problem and them getting involved intentionally has literally no benefit for them beyond petty revenge.
With that being said, I'd be down for it if Yabuki hooked up with someone else to help him with the writing.
>Merchant vessels from the mainland discover the Island by accident
>Cat has left the bag, eventually diplomats from the side with dragons arrive
>Claire, Raki, Galataea, and the twins sent to the mainland as emissaries
>Raki has to pretend he's a bodyguard because they don't want anyone actually knowing exactly what Claymores are
Less shonen action, more focused on worldbuilding with action as an aside. I'd make them a caste based, psuedo-roman society personally.
>She's got Raki for that
Raki not needed
Clare & Jean = OTP
I loved the series for its characters and setting, but the plot lost me towards the end. The setting had SO MUCH POTENTIAL but everything was too focused on a bunch of renegades taking down some raid bosses. There was no grand scheme the cast was trying to foil, no escalating plot. The story just became too narrow at the end.
>Raki didn't end up doing anything cool
>We will never know more about the conflict that created the Claymores
>We will never know more about the dragons
>Reminder that Isley jobbed to zerg tactics
>tfw no sexually frustrated Claymore to take out her sexual frustrations on me
Also, so the organization was making Yoma and Claymores to use the latter in the war in the large continent?
the yoma that ran amok were failed experiments for the most part, and the claymores were equal parts experiment and tool to clean up the failures.
The end goal was a fully controllable awakened being, which they were getting close to, before Miria happened
>pussy twisting around your D and squeezing it
They were making Yoma and Claymores to see if they could make a controllable awakened being. Claymores themselves were a flawed side product. The goal from the beginning was an awakened being that could be employed against the Dragons without decimating their own forces.
They already have Proto-Claymores on the mainland, but in their case they aren't trained like Claymores, they're sent out to where the Dragon is Awaken, and while they kill the Dragon everybody else bails the fuck out.
Yeah, the island was basically a giant laboratory that manufactured super soldiers. Some unnamed nation was fighting some war where they fought half-dragons (or something like that) and needed an edge, so they did the only logical thing and tried making their own. The Youma were just generic baddies for the warriors to grind as they got stronger.
It's been a while so the exact details are blurry, but that's the general gist of it.
Yoma are the first generation. They are what happens when small quantities of Dragon flesh is inserted into a Human. Yoma flesh being introduced into a second Human creates a Claymore which retains its human mind until it Awakens (which it inevitably will, eventually). Larger quantities of Dragon inserted into a Human skips the Yoma and Claymore entirely and immediately becomes an Awakened being.
It really seems like Dragon flesh and blood are parasitic, with Yoma, and Awakened, being the Parasite personality taking over the host.
You mean "did you like Claymore".
And fuck yeah I did.
It's one of the few manga that I've seen through to the end that left me completely satisfied.
I know the Priscilla fight dragged quite a bit, but I didn't mind, especially with
Claire's awakening into Teresa
All the teamwork displayed leading up to that was great, if a bit meaningless in the wake of how amazing she was after that event.
And I like that they didn't try to keep going afterwards. They left it with this island full of ungodly warrior women that will remain in relative peace and order under their care.
They didn't need to go into the whole war bullshit, but it was nice that they gave a somewhat proper explanation.
The monsters were also fucking beautiful. Main reason I'm upset the anime went to so much shit is that I would have loved to see shit like the Priscilla vs Riful fight, or the twin tower of FUCKEVERYTHING animated.
man, fuck the anime. i understand they needed to make it up because the manga had no proper ending at that point, but turning Raki into the "If you kill her, you'll be just like her!" character was one of the worst decisions they had.
They didn't need to make up anything. They could have just followed the Manga exactly and ended on a shot of the graveyard the seven made and had a fade to black.
No muss, no fuss, perfect sequel hook ending.
>Rigaldo appreciating those THICK thighs, and I can't blame him.
Gotta train hard to get thighs like that.
>We'll never get to see the Sword Chucker animated
>We'll never get to see the Dirt Eater animated
>We'll never get to see Riful going POWER OF LOVE animated
Man, fuck the anime industry.
Manga has a shit tier ending aswell but atleast it takes awhile before it turns to complete shit. I recommend reading from the beginning though since for one, the anime skipped some minor parts and two, you get to take in some of its sweet ass monster designs.
>"Hey buddy, could you do me a favor and pull this sword out of my throat? I'd do anything you like."
Well /a/, would you?
It was pretty good, the war of the north was the highest point of the manga for me. Ending could've dragged on a bit less though. Also, anyone remember what part of the manga an awakened being that was basically a giant platform of death with a woman's body in the middle of it is? That shit started my descent into getting off on femdom I think.
I'm not sure I even made it as far as whatever the fuck that moth is. The bit immediately after the war with the timeskip and nuns and magnificent seven shit had me hyped to fuck, then it just devolved into a series of Awakenings and fight clusters. A bit like Bleach cramming in Bankais. It's not necessary to have a whole section on Rafaella. And Priscilla came back to turn everything into powerlevels.
Riful in her powered up monster form almost killed priscilla and aside from the op Teresa nothing in this entire manga was even remotely close to that.
I still can't remember why she lost to priscilla.
She didn't even come close. Priscilla was fighting Riful and the black mass that was invading her body at the same time. Regardless the power level inflation towards the end really hurt the series. The post timeskip powerlevels weren't immediately bad but the one-upmanship of the Abyssals then the Abyss Eaters then the new No.1 and 2, then the goddess construct, then Priscilla then Teresa was just bad.
>I'm not sure I even made it as far as whatever the fuck that moth is.
That was before the time skip just before the war in the north, the part with Riful and Daff torcher scene.
The zergs introduction fucked the abyssal hype big time. Then the author just stopped giving a fuck and introduced more abyssals.
>your love for your waifu will never fuse you together into an immortal statue
i liked that short arc where she was some sort of demon-inquisition detective.
The whole powerlevels shonen stuff afterwards was pretty meh.
The twist with her awakened form was kinda clever and made sense but thats it.
Wish Claymore had more doujins. You'd think Japan would be all over this series due to the large cast of blonds.
Mangaka overdid it by trying to make Raki relevant against Priscilla. He'd be better used as a side-character and grunt, like those two guards of the holy city. I actually like those two more than Raki.
This series had so much potential, shame it turned out the way it did.