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Release all the Stasi files for scientific purposes.
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PSA from the Ministerium für Staatssicherheit

6. The education plan of the local groups

The leadership of the local groups must develop an education plan immediately after the III. Party Congress for all members, candidates and nonparty members who want to study Katjaism-Theoism.
It should make clear how each individual will learn the principles of Katjaism-Theoism in the course of the party educational year, either through participation in a basic Katja course,
a circle, a county evening school, the evening university (for those in Berlin) or a course at a Katja party school.

After the county office has received the education plans of all its local groups, it will determine, based on the number of available propagandists, how many basic Katja courses, circles to study the biography of Katja,
circles to study the History of the IMOUTO (B) for beginners and advanced students, etc, should be conducted in a factory.
When, for example one work group in a large factory has 14 and another 9 members for a basic course, these 23 members, candidates and non-party members can form a course.
If in a MAS 6 and in the local group of the relevant village 16 members, candidates, and non-party members want to study the biography of Katja, one will form a circle from these 22 participants,
assuming that a qualified circle leader is available.

By law only Genosse Theodore can bully Katia.

Es lebe die Deutsche Demokratische Republik
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Posting best girls.
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Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unrtTjTujgM
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If only Uncle Saddam was here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VhQxqH8KuI
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>>138801376
>If only Uncle Saddam was here.
>BETAs swarm Iran during the height of the Iraq-Iran war
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>>138801293
Sure thing
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>>138801523
she will burn
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>>138801293
>>138801523
Both wrong
Imouto alliance strong
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>>138801411
In the muv-luv alternative world all muslims united and decleard a holy war against the BETA.

But they failed to contain and destroy the BETA.
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>>138801582
You can't Jihad the BETA anyway, they're godless.
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>>138801558
And after been saved by Martin they both start a new life in Argentina
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>>138801582
They can't win by shooting their AKs and sleeping in caves dug in mountains. Not when the BETA literally eat mountains.

For all the killing they do, muslims aren't very good at war.
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>>138801604
Yes you can, they are non human demons which only satan would spawn.

And the BETA came 1973.

Iran-iraq war started in 1980

So no Human wave attacks for the BETA.
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How can someone so cute be destroyed like that? Her smile is so dam cute.
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>>138801642
in the anime she will burn.
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I liked hug better
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>>138785131

It seems to me as though Jurgen is based on Erich Hartmann. Certainly, he is when it comes to physical appearance. In terms of personality, Jurgen gets a lot of his mischievous and playful side in addition to his hyper-competence.

Even their love interests are similar physically, although Ursula Hartmann was an absolute saint who waited for her husband through five years of silence and the death of their only son, who Erich never had the opportunity to meet. Physically though, Ursula was like Beatrix in that she at least had dark hair and pale skin.

Lastly, there's definitely the fact that Erich Hartmann spent ten years getting shuffled from soviet prison camp to soviet prison camp. The only reason why the soviets never killed him outright is they wanted him to be the figurehead for the new DDR Luftwaffe, but he refused to cooperate until Adenauer managed to get the surviving German POWs released to the BDR.

A few interesting facts about Erich Hartmann: the first language he learned to speak was chinese, as he spent the first three years of his live there, he was taught to fly aircraft by his mother, who ran the local glider club, and his younger brother, Alfred, was a Stuka Pilot who was captured in North Africa. Hartmann wanted to be a doctor, and only joined the Luftwaffe to go to flight school. He resigned himself to becoming a professional fighter pilot in 1956 after ten years in a prison camp made him feel as though he was unable to transition to a new career.
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>>138801753
BRAINS
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>>138801685
If only Chemical ali did something.
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>>138801752


>>138801760
BREAD GENOCIDE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE
Marseille>Hartmann
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>>138801753
>>138801728
Muv Luv universe does not give a fuck about whether someone is cute. If there's anything the original trilogy taught us, it was that.
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>>138801823

Even Hartmann agreed with that. When he was being interrogated, the NKVD was gloating to him that they had the greatest fighter pilot in captivity.

Hartmann informed them that in fact, they did not, because British pilots were so much better than Soviet pilots that each of Marseille's victories was worth three of Hartmann's.

It's honestly a wonder they never killed him.

Anyway, I'd recommend reading The Blond Knight of Germany. Approach it like an epic romance that is set during a war, because that is what it is.
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>>138801376
Likely never made it into power in this world. The Baath Revolution MIGHT have occurred, but Ahmed al-Bakr was still the point man likely by the time the BETA arrived at Iraq. They were all in together in the Great Jihad anyways. And Iran was still imperial, so no Iran-Iraq War either.

It's debatable if Saddam would have made a good soldier or TSF pilot - he never really was in the military at all and knew little about military matters, but on the other hand, he was a formidable organizer, and street enforcer/thug.
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>>138801980
also, he was responsible of more kills to his air force than the enemy
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>>138801760
I could see it. He definitely has the looks of an IRL Jurg. I think Jurgen had a little more lasting impact on ML aviation though. He was one of the very first TSF aces and the tactics and maneuvers he came up with (such as laserjagd) are still in use by Takeru's time.

> waited for her husband through five years

Beatrix did the same shit and they weren't even married.
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>>138802078

I messed up there, it was ten years of silence, 1945 through 1955.

and yes that's one of the reasons I mentioned it. Ursula, however, worked as a secretary or something (and was helped financially by Erich's friends, especially Barkhorn and Krupinski. The other shoe dropped in 1956 when they convinced a reluctant Hartmann to rejoin the BDR Luftwaffe.)

It helps that the Hartmanns were Swabian, and never had to deal with the DDR. Krupinski and Barkhorn were both East Prussians, and probably had to be very careful not to end up in the DDR.
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>>138802078
>>138801760
He named his daughter Ursula, and his middle name was "Alfred".
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>>138802267
This sweet and kind girl doesn't deserve to be turned into someone else!
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>>138802267
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>>138802317
I know, we all know.
But Theo, Theo doesn't care.
The only thing on his mind is imouto.
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>>138802078

>The unit was notorious for their lack of discipline and respect for authority. In his biography Alfred Grislawski wrote "In 1941 - 1943, the Karayastaffel was probably the most non-militaristic unit in the entire Wehrmacht.

Sounds like a unit Juergen would lead.
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>>138802462

The girl awakens with a start. It's dark, stuffy, and her hands are bound. She seems to be sitting in a chair, with something over her head. Her memories are hazy, but she she starts to piece everything together. The base had been attacked by forces working for an insane terrorist called 'The Master.' The last thing she remembers is strapping into her TSF, then, nothing.

"You're awake! good!"

Suddenly, a bag is lifted off her head. She looks around at the large, palatial office, before her eyes settle on the man looming above her. It's the Master himself! what happened?

"So, Yui Takamura... I understand you're Yuuya Bridges’ younger sister."

"Half sister, yes." For some reason, her answer slips out before she thinks to mind her tongue.

"Yui, that's even better. I'm going to give you your hands back, okay Yui? Don't get any silly ideas, Yui. We're friends now."

Friends? The Master's apparent kindness and familiarity sends a chill up the Lieutenant's spine. Spinning a razor sharp dagger in his fingers, the Master effortlessly slices through the binds on her wrists. She stays in her chair, rubbing them to get the blood flowing in her hands. The Master sheaths his blade and pulls a velvet jewel box out of his jacket. Inside are two tattered, filthy ribbons. They had once had blue and white stripes, but it is difficult to be sure under what looks suspiciously like blood stains.

"Listen to me carefully, Yui, because I'm only going to tell you once. Put the ribbons on, Yui."
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>>138802617
Delete this!
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>>138802689

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHgW2z61_9k
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>>138802759
Hello?
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I want to ravage Kirke's cute butt.
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>>138802932
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>>138802932
>>138803036
That comment on her ass was really out of place in the show.
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>>138802932
>>138803036
West is Best
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>>138803062
Can't handle some Wessie bantz?
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>>138803081

East is Least
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>>138803241
East at least doesn't piss itself like a certain 2nd Lieutenant when they see a single BETA on radar.
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>>138803036
I want to wipe her ass.
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>>138803112
Left: Goddess, best plane
Right: Shit, flying coffin
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>>138803370
>Not pounding it
Too late anon.
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>>138803356
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>>138803487
But she poops from there..
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>>138803513
She was trained by the west german military.
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Anal with Annette.
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>>138803561

not for long she doesn't.
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Beatrix fought the squadron 666 and nearly destroyed the base coupled with Katia, but Beatrix was stopped by the timely arrival of Theodor and his mig-23. Beatrix was enraged when Axmann told him it was the Lise mig-23 but surely had the same Lise smell, at this point Beatrix remembered Theodor with deep hatred. Beatrix fought the Theodor but experienced pain when Katia, freed of her brainwashing, remembered Theodor which caused a forced decoupling. Seeing Theodor, taking her away, Beatrix followed and took her from him. Beatrix tried to couple with Katia but Katia refused, marry with Beatrix. Distraught, he watched as this created a strange reaction. When Theodor stabbed and hit the Beatrix Mig-27, it created the time tunnel. Beatrix was sucked in and Katia was about to follow him in when Theodor stopped her. With Theodor, Anett destroyed his mig-27, so Beatrix would never be able to kill Theodor in the past. Beatrix appeared to survive, cursing Theodor and Katia. Later, it is revealed Beatrix traveled back in time and apparently after the test of time, became Zogilia's leader and Beatrix is still obsessed with killing Theodor, probably out of jealousy and even muttering that Theodor will soon feel his full wrath. He says this all while clutching the Lise tape, like a memento, and sitting in a wheel chair. However, his face is still covered with the exception of his forehead and eyes.

After Beatrix changed his name and became chairman, his personality became very crazed and vengeful; Beatrix is willing to sacrifice anyone and anybody to get his revenge. Beatrix was even willing to commit suicide and destroy the Europe to get his revenge. Theodor mentions Beatrix was also very prideful; all his actions were to protect his ego and pride.
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>>138803604
>defecting to Least Germany
>becoming a Bernie
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>>138801239
>>138801239
WHAT DID THEY DO TO HER!?!
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>>138803609
Only if you do it slow first time.
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>>138803832
x9000+
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>>138803647
liked it
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>>138803609
>>138803872
>liking little boys
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>>138803832
Lise had a hard life.
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>>138803875

>Lise side story from Schwarzesmarken Requiem vol 2

Lise was captured and gangraped by the Stasi.
She wanted to give her first time to her brother.
Axmann told that it was all recorded, and would be shown to her brother unless she does what they say.

She agrees. Axmann (The Stasi Armed Police Security Force "Grey Beast" as per chapter) was the one who broke her. He tells her after the first time "Don't worry, I won't be touching you. I'm a guy who likes cleanliness, and after your new friends had fun with you, you're filthy."

She undergoes training to be a fem-fatal sleeper operative, getting her body used to get information for the Stasi. She also ends up being the secret mistress for the Security Force.
She believes Axmann planned to us her that way from the start.
Constantly crying for Oni-san to save her when she is alone, but knows her body is too defiled already, having lost count of how many had had her.

After the events in Schwarze with Irisdina getting captured, she is blindfolded in Theodor's arms, apparently before her execution at his hands.
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>>138803924
You do that anon? Good job.
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>>138803997
No it was someone on twitter.
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>>138803934
>being so much of a faggot that he see a little boy
Must be hard being you.
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>>138803934
Headpats for Tasha.
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>>138803974
>secret mistress for the Security Force.

Slut!
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>>138803609
You know she would.

>>138803647
Nigga, you sound like Iron Sheikh right now.

>>138802078
>>138801760
;_;
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>>138804389
He's just poorly copypasting a summary of Buddy Complex's finale and find+replacing some names.
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>>138803647
+1
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I ignored muv-luv threads for years (girl/monster in the window shitposting etc.), but i want to pick it up now. Where should i start?
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>>138804542
>Where should i start?
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>>138804542
From the start
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だって...俺は...俺はお前の...お兄ちゃんなんだから
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>>138804542
SM and TE anime are both okay starting points. You're here though, this is the best starting point.
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>>138804599
>03:22:46
>03:22:45
What
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>>138804428
Lise is lower than your hentai NTR heroine?
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>>138804651
You are one autistic spic.
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>>138804628
Delete this!
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>>138804622
Shes removing kebab on the great border in the sky now Godspeed you crazy imouto.
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Inia, Cryska and Yui are my waifus.
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>>138804773
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UGU
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>>138804886
She's fine

>>138804886
>having another waifu other than Yuimoto
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>>138804428
fuck off back to /v/ retard
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Should I read the SM LN or the SM VN?
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>>138804628
That doujin by the original artist was pretty great.
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>>138805028
SM VN
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>>138804599
>>138804597
So basically, fuck anime, go read vn?

>>138804628
>You're here though, this is the best starting point.
?
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>>138804899
did she die?

>>138805054
ty
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>>138805070
You can watch this anime since its basically a prequel to the original VNs.

It's best to go original VN -> any spinoff you want.
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>>138805028
In order of course
LN then VN, more so because the LN is actually done and only the first VN is out.
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>>138805093
no
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>>138805093
Yui is immortal!
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>>138805070
fuck LN, go read vn!!!
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>>138804773
No.
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>>138804899
Did he do it?
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>>138801753
So did I. Go figure, anime butchery. At least he could have held her fucking hand.
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>>138805502
I like to pretend that's what happened, and then it becomes objectively better than the sad state of LN Lise's execution.
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>>138805502
>held her fucking hand.
>wanting AIDS
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>>138805429
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>>138805502
The lack of physical contact really hurt the scene. But she died knowing that she saved him and that he loved her, so at least there was that moment of peace where she could smile. Daisuke Onii-chan
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>>138805594
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So, Lise took Beatrix's prophetic last speech.
What are the chances Beatrix herself just dies in the finale?
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>>138806555
They've set up the fact that the rebels aren't as good as they seem, so Beato may still "enlighten" Theodore with some revelation.
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>>138806664
That just seems like Lise being "there's no way good can triumph over evil" right now.
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>>138806664
>country who wants to be whole again
>aren't as good

Nice try Ivan, back to >>>/rt/
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>>138806691
>>138806693
>Literally using civilians as cover.
>Firing rpgs from inside occupied homes
>Bringing the fight to a town in the first place
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>>138806746
That was Theo's idea.
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>>138806872
And they agreed. What a monster, I guess Theo isn't so different from his sister after all.
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>>138806985
Theo didn't suck and fuck millions of stranger dicks and he got the job done without doing any of that
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>>138806555
Pretty high. The anime isn't really going to give Beatrix any sympathy points. They even implied that she was one of the people who helped break Lise in last weeks episode.
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>>138807117
>not even Ketchup's friends
>but also Beatrix's friends

EVERY DICK IN GERMANY
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>>138806985
I fucking love this face.
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>>138807058
Hes a useless Onii-chan for letting that happen to her in the first place. How ironic that she ended up protecting him instead.
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>>138807139
>anime Beatrix's friends
>dicks
Anon...
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>>138807287
>Beatrix only has gal pals
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So, what are the chances Annet gets killed by Beatrix next episode since she hasn't been crippled by PTSD?
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>>138803974

>Lise was broken by the stasi? yes, but She didn't do anything because she wanted something for her brother. Axmann never told to Lise that it would hurt or kill Theo, actually it She wanted to give her first time to her brother and for the shame of being exposed by Axmann and the photos/videos of her being raped, Axmann push Lise to be a crazy bitch by using those things as bargain chip (obviously showing them to theo).
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>>138807371
>Reposting from reddit
For what purpose
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>>138807371
I see reddit is still doing it's best to justify its love of Ketchup and hatred for Lise.
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>>138807513
Even in /a/ no one save for a handful likes Lise
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>>138807462
>>138807513
>not recognizing the portugese shitposter
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>>138807117
I really hope Katia either dies or has a more romantic conclusion with Theo like getting a kiss, but given the director's edge I'm inclined to think her dying is more likely to hope for. I really like her and she's my favorite girl in SM, moreso than Lise, but SM is going to have one of the absolute weakest finales of the season if they decide to adapt the original ending mostly wholesale. Anime Iris has had almost no screentime and is incredibly boring in almost all appearances she does have, she doesn't make much of a memorable impact at all.
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>>138807560
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>>138807327
She should survive, but so did Kurt.
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>>138807058
Instead he forces innocent cowtits to do it for him.
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>>138807618
Lise isn't innocent
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>>138807539
Yeah, I've noticed that you're either your a Lisefag, or you hate her and think everything Axmann did was warranted. It's the same shit with Beatrix.

In comparison, most of the other girls, like Katia or Pham, don't cop universal hatred from those who aren't in their camps.
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>>138807618
Around Frogs, never relax
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>>138807676
She was, you son of a bitch, until Axmann broke her, just like Theo broke Natalie.
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Who's Ketchup? I haven't followed the threads.
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>>138807721
She deserved the Heinz treatment after she betrayed the 666!
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>>138807721
>She was
Not really
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>>138807758
Fuck you, retard.

>>138807759
Same to you.
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>>138807781
No argument
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>>138807549
Why are Brazilians so horrible?
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>>138807549
Theres going to be pretty much nothing but shitposting for the next several hours. Its like clockwork
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>>138807796
Nothing to argue, you're just a dumb son of a bitch.
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>>138807741
I'm assuming Heinz because of the ketchup brand.

it's an amerifat joke
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>>138800275
>he told me that the plane could "hit mach 3 easy"

At the expense of the engines' service life, which is probably why he got thrown into the stockade for doing so (all the windows he shattered in the city might've had something to do with it as well). I'm more surprised the airframe can withstand that duress considering it's not exactly streamlined.

>>138800367
The SR-71 escapes conventional SAMs the same way.

>138800533
>It wasn't made to fight against like other planes

Wasn't it designed as an interceptor to counter the XB-70?

>the fat fuck barely stood a chance unless it managed to get the jump on someone extremely unsuspecting from a ridiculous range

Amusingly enough, our intelligence initially thought it was some hot new dogfighter (you'd think the fact that it had all the aerodynamic properties of a cinderblock would've indicated otherwise). At least we got the F-15 out of that admittedly asinine assumption.
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>>138807759
Normal girl before funhouse, sociopath after.
>>138807758
Knee jerk reaction
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>>138807703
Fact: Lisefags were so butthurt that they split threads for no reason a few days ago.

Fact: Lisefags keep shilling Lise to point that hating and disliking her counts as shitposting.
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hello I am russia and very cute and sex pls have somebody a link for me for this series to stream and watch? preferrably html5 video, preferably webm, do not want torrent
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>>138807830
Keep trying Lise, maybe in three years you will still have fans here
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>>138807936
Sent ;)
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>>138807898
Calm down, you're taking this way too seriously.
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>>138807861
W-what did I do. I'm just posting more renders I made from the CGs.
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>>138807936
Go to bed, Kasumi.
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>>138807117
>They even implied that she was one of the people who helped break Lise in last weeks episode.

Wait, what?
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>>138807898
Fact: You're a moron who continues to ignore the fact that it was because you rushed to make the thread, just like this very thread was, and a Katiafag was the one who made the thread because they hated your edgy OP.
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>>138807942
Notice how Lisefags are usually Beatrixfags too? Notice how both girls are the WGOTY?

Is this coincidence, or can you smell the terminal case of shit-taste gently wafting through the air of this fandom?
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>>138807942
Keep reaching, simpleton.
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>>138807977
thank for direct link on google

>>138808005
in soviet russia bed come to you
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>>138807997
Just ignore him, he does that to any post with Iris in it.
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>>138808027
>complains about thread rushing when the OP isn't Lise
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>>138808049
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree
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>>138808022
Beatrix was almost having an orgasm talking about the pain that she was putting Lise through by forcing her to fight Theo back in episode 10. You also had episode 9 implying that Beatrix forced her to carry out many executions, such as the one back in episode 1.
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>All these hot opinions getting thrown everywhere

Doesn't get much better than this.
Don't understand why these threads need to be up constantly anyway.
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>>138808118
No, I don't like thread rushing in general. Though I must admit, it's funny how angry you are about this even nearly a week later. I remember you freaking out and rushing to bump your own terrible thread repeatedly.
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>>138808202
>bump your own terrible thread repeatedly
>says this while the other thread had less posters and more posts trying to pad it so cleaning man wouldn't 404 it
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Schwarzesmarken refridgerator™ Only real from anıme ultra ebin pigdures
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>>138808273
No, actually, I just enjoy posting. You're assuming malice where there was none - I'm not surprised, given how incredibly angry you are about it even now.
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/a/ a shit
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>>138808190
Believe me, I don't either, anon.
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>>138804634
HOLY SHIT why is âge so obsessed with character like sumika so much ,
i m really don't want to be associate with this franchise anymore
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>>138808769
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>>138807876
Conversation's over; go away.
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>>138808769
Then fuck off.
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>>138809157
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>>138809217
that was pretty good, I've watched several episodes of that already, but I deleted my web history because of reinstall and I cannot remember the name

tsun, I know, but plx gib name
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>>138809999
Nice quads.
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>Onii-chan, what are you doing with Lise!?
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>>138810438
.Already calling him Onii-chan

Good. The conversion has already begun.
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>>138810438
>>138810485
Theo freaks out when she does that in the LNs.
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>>138810574
Go on.
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>>138809840
Polish people are idiots
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>>138807876
Mig-25 is a interceptor. Meaning it's job is to shoot down bombers and other intruders, also why it had such highspeed.

It's not a dogfighter.
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>>138807997
Stop that, Lise. Katia is not a dog.
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he's finally getting banned from AnimeSuki.
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Annet is cute
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>>138811175
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>>138811175
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>>138807842

Fun fact: the Heinz family and the Trump family are from the same town in the Rhine Palatinate
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>>138811701
>So what's the story behind this one?

>Ah this one? She was part of a elit NVA TSF squadron, dont really remember the name but there are pretty much no survivors from that squadron except this one. After the DDR fell most of europe have fallen and we are really trying to find remains from the NVA or anyone from the Warsaw pact.

>No survivors?

>Well we cant find anyone except her from that squadron.If they are really dead I dont know but I dont really care anyway.

>And why am I guarding her?

>Oh the commissar dont want anyone from the ship to visit her for a friendly conversation, the last one that got visited became rather unstable. Also you are most reliable amongst the guards.

>Really? And how long am I supposed to guard her? Been several days since someone was supposed to take my place.

>Dont worry, we are soon in Cuba comrade.

>Good, Her cries during the night are annoying and I dont speak german. She is really not in a good state. I dont think she will be able to pilot again.

>She will be when we are in Cuba. A few months and she is ready to fight.

>And if she's not?

>Oh she will have some use. One way or another. Cant let good things to be wasted in some refugee camp can you?
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>>138812064
Oh my god. Fuck why did Pham have to die.
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>>138812669

She tried to fight an angry lion with a butter knife.
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Lise is a good girl who did some bad stuff under conditions of extreme duress. She deserves headpats and handholding.
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>>138810950
I think that's pretty much what he just said.
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>>138813621
Killing children and babies.
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>>138813862
Wasn't Beatrix the one forcing her to partake in all the executions?
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>>138801293
No.
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<< Where are my buddies at? >>
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>>138813621
She was a perfectly normal girl until she went through one hell of a meat grinder of an experience. That kind of morbid abuse would turn anyone's mind inside out. But this is a story about cute girls suffering so no happiness for you.
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>>138808176
Was she? It sounded to me like she was just stating facts of the matter, really. Remember, Schmidt was asking about her specifically. Which is also weird since afaik, Schmidt doesn't really concern himself with very specific details or persons like that. He runs the guys who run the guys basically.

>>138808190
This will always be a great edit, thank you whoever did it.

>>138813353
But there aren't vampires in ML anon.

VV > Jeanette
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>>138813862
Extreme duress.
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>>138814049
I think Beatrix, Axmann, and Schmidt are the only ones evil for the sake of evil.
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>>138813914
See >>138803974

It's Axmann who initially broke her into the family.

She's "with" Beato's faction, but that doesn't mean she gets to edge her way out of Stasi business. Executing dissidents means executing dissidents.

>>138814011
Ace Combat stories kinda sucked, muh no war, muh peace

Novalogic's sims were better
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>>138814094
>Was she? It sounded to me like she was just stating facts of the matter, really.

The tone of voice, smirking, and ironic quip/joke about it all being a "Sad story" implies that she's getting her kicks from Lise's situation. There's also her talking about using Lise as an expendable tool despite all of the above.

You know, even with Axmann's reveal back in episode 9, Beatrix still comes off as far away the most evil and cruel character in the whole show.
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>>138814187
Its true her actions would have consequences regardless of how or why she ended up that way, its just a damn shame either way because everybody loses with an eye for an eye. If anyone could have helped her, its Pham, with a little help from Theo of course.
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>>138804628
Ishigaki Takashi?
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>>138814361
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>>138814119
2/3, possibly only 1/3 correct - possibly 0/3 correct. Well at least according to LN and probably VN.

It's Axmann who explicitly enjoys causing suffering. The purer something is, the more enjoyment he gets corrupting it. Though that's how it seems in any case. If anything, his breaking people is perhaps his own way of teaching them how to survive in the world - when he made Lise kill the children with a rock, his last lesson was that these feelings, these morals, will only hurt you in the end. If anything, he's the ultimate utilitarian. Classically, he's as sick and evil as they come. But there is a certain sense of truth to his words, and the lessons he imparts, whether his recipients like it or not.

Schmidt, he seems really interested only in his own power. Evil is a tool for him, not a result. He doesn't really care about the morality of his system, but that does mean he's not evil in the classically understood sense, if only because his intention is not to cause the spread of evil. To him, his power is good, so anything that contributes towards that is also good. Normally speaking, he could possibly be one of the worst, since he's the one who has ultimate power in his organization, and he's the one who took them from where they were pure evil into even more hateful and refined forms of cruelty.

Beato, she explicitly hates her job, and hates the evil she must do. In only the "technical" sense, she could be considered the most evil since she KNOWS what she is doing is wrong (even if she has no control over it), she KNOWS it's evil, she knows she's going to pay for what she has done - she has a "normal" sense of right and wrong, of justice, of morality, unlike the others. But in the classic sense, she is one of the most non-evil characters. If anything, she's set herself up as the self-sacrificial entity, one who can take all the evil and bury it with herself when she must disappear so that the new generation can start redeemed - a Christ figure.
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>>138814599
>If anything, she's set herself up as the self-sacrificial entity, one who can take all the evil and bury it with herself when she must disappear so that the new generation can start redeemed - a Christ figure.

That's more Irisdina's thing. If anything, Iris is likely to be the "martyr" in the second VN.
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>>138814361
First of all, that's Schmidt who says it's "a sad story" with a wry chuckle. As for Beatrix's tone, it's the same one she uses regardless, so it's not necessarily malicious on her part. Hell, even Schmidt isn't necessarily into it for da evulz. Just because he's responsible for it doesn't mean he necessarily laughs or is being ironic about it. It's like when Axmann, during the time he dropped in on them after Operation Neptune, wasn't being ironic when he said "how beautiful" at Theo's attempts to stick up for Lise.

Remember, she's defending Lise from arrest/worse, since Schmidt is worried enough to mention her specifically. Mind you, this is all the anime one, which makes her out to be much worse. The truth of Lise's situation, IS that she doesn't have anyone left, and her whole recent life is a sad story. It's just facts.

Personally speaking,
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>>138813862
>>138813914
>>138814049
>>138814106
>>138814119
>>138814187
>>138814599

A traditional gangland shooting might involve two people: one to fire the gun and another to drive the getaway car. The shooter will not pull the trigger unless he has a means of escape. The driver knows there will be no shooting without him. So both are guilty of murder.
>The same principle should apply if one person encourages another to pull the trigger.
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>>138807876
>I'm more surprised the airframe can withstand that duress considering it's not exactly streamlined.

>The Foxbat was built primarily out of a nickel steel alloy because it was easy to work with and met the heat-related requirements.
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>>138810624
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Anyone else notice that most of the BR's posts were deleted by the janitors? Feels amazing.
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>>138801293
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>>138814790
Like I said, or course there will be consequences in one form or another.

"Unlawful pressure exerted upon a person to coerce that person to perform an act that he or she ordinarily would not perform. Duress also encompasses the same harm, threats, or restraint exercised upon the affected individual's spouse, child, or parent."
- Legal definition of Duress http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/duress

The Stasi(at the very least the fictional stasi working under Axemann) break people. Thats what they do. Lise went into the funhouse and someone else came out. Its a tragic story thats all.
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>>138814714
No, the titular "Martyrs" in the second VN will likely be Iris, Beatrix, and Katia. They're the only ones selfless enough to sacrifice themselves on the pyre of politics to ensure that their ideals win out. You might say Lise too, but she's more in it for Onii-san than any grand political motives.
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>>138814714

10 episodes = 03h 20m 00s / Iris in 10 episodes - screentime: 00h 06m 39s

Gretel has more development, internal conflicts, more scenes in visual novel, and more screentime in the anime, than Iris and this is a fact.

Iris is the overrated character from Schwarzesmarken.
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>>138814928
No
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Polish we all know it's you.
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>>138815931
It never does stop hurting.

The worst part is she would say don't be sad on her account.

;____________;
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>>138815931
>>138816019
Too good for this world, its no wonder they left.
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>>138812512
Make Rhine Great Again
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>>138813862
>>138814790
>Give me your cocks
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>>138812512
>"Lise, you're low energy today, so sad!"
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>>138816300
>Lyin Lise, she claims she loves her onii-chan but she puts her ribbons down and she lies
>I've never seen a liar in my entire life
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>>138814928
This guy is fucking stupid.
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>>138816100
Does that mean everyone who is left and alive is worthless and unpure?

My Stella...

;_;
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>>138803872
>Asfdsf
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>>138816100
>Inghild fell in love with a young pilot named Marco Farner. Marco was born in the same town as her, and the two entered a relationship after he confessed to her. The romance ended abruptly with Marco's death and it became a painful memory for Inghild and Anett.

Did Childhood friend finally win?
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>>138816572
>>138816100
HUGE BUTT
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>>138816796

Getting eaten by Beta isn't generally considered winning by most standards.
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>>138816865
They did unvirgins, that's a win in the BETAverse
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>>138814851
Cute.
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>>138816796
>Italian
>fell in love with the shit girl
>not Anett
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>>138816924
>wanting a shorthaired christfag when you got a beautiful blonde
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>>138816815
Giant tits

Giant ass

Cute frame

Is this the power of the Prussian Junkers?

I wonder if her and Sylwia had issues
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>>138815402

>Iris is the overrated character from Schwarzesmarken.

For me the most overrated characters ever: Yuno, Haruhi, Taiga, Haruhi, Kona-chan, Mikasa, Asuna, Iris, Louise, Kanade, Beatrix, Mio, Nagato, Yui, Chitoge, Azusa, Onodera, Mizore, Ayumu.
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>>138816996
>wanting a dead girl

Might as well go with the shorthaired christfag, unless you're into necrophilia.
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>>138816815
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>>138817158
That's a long list.

Beatrix is kinda overrated but not as much as Yuno, Chitoge, Asuna and Mikasa. Don't know about the rest.
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>>138817158

Nagato is great though
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>>138815931
>>138816019
>Pham already forgotten
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>>138816996
Onii-chan please.
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>>138817158

Beatrix / Haruhi - Kamidere.

Iris - OP mary-sue: a poorly developed character, too perfect with lacking in realism, unprecedented skill in everything: Intelligence, command, leadership, TSF pilot, strategies and tactics, including conquests and memorable achievements.
Shes the savior, Jesus Christ's reincarnation, having the good grace to die at the end as a holy martyr.

Mio, Yui, Azusa - waifushit / K-ON - shit's fucked / yuribait

Kona-chan - Lucky Star, just says “FUCK THAT SHIT”

about the rest - shit

Note: KyoAni moe garbage that defies logic using jiggle-physics.
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>>138819171
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>>138819328

Pham is lovely and I'm sure I would love her company but Nee-sans just don't do it for me like Imoutos do. Theo agrees, which is why all of the main heroines are imoutos. Including Irisdina. Especially Irisdina.
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>>138819195
He approves your post!
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>>138819506

Thank you, I'm glad to know my chewing tobacco won't be the reason I die of cancer.
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Lise casting couch doujin when
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>>138819552

I like the idea of Theo's spank magazine having her in it, but he doesn't recognize her because of make-up and the deeply held belief that she's dead and gone forever.
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wait, why does Lise have aids?
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>>138819483

protagonist's love interest on plot armor for plot convenience.
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>>138819664

Because Axmann's a raging homo and while he probably didn't fuck Lise himself, I'm sure the Stasi has a fucked in/fucked out policy, and he fucked all the guys that fucked her. He also probably slipped into West Berlin to hit the bath houses at several points in the late 1970s after a certain Quebecois flight attendant had already visited.
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>>138819664
Over 9000 dicks
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I am going to marry Gretel and lick her armpits!
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>>138819664

Magic was Lise's victim
Magic contracted Lise's AIDS
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reminder that all your waifus are a shit. Here is my waifu. Look at those birthing hips.
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>>138820058
Go away Americano
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>>138819839
>>138819891
so is this sex thing an actual canon thing or just one of your maymays?
not a lise fag,getting ready to marathon the series and need to know how much lube to prepare
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>>138820136
Canon, see >>138803974
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>>138820136
She was made to seduce politicians for the Stasi after getting brutally raped after kidnapping when she was 15.
You couldn't be a bigger semen demon even if you wanted, but she's still best girl since 200% devotion and mind of steel.
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>>138820136

It's a huge plot point.
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>>138819943

Lisefags love to paint Lise as a victim but imagine how many more titles the Lakers won if Magic didn't have any AIDS
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>>138820206
>used goods
>best girl

Pick one
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>>138820257
I pick not shitposting.
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>>138820227
>>138820206
>>138820163
How many STDs?
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>>138820227
>Heheheh Lise-chan I'll come inside
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>>138820275
None, Stasi kept their dicks clean.
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>>138820275
Imagine every HIV strain known and unknown to man, shit is like a super AIDS or a bioweapon.
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Did Theo fuck her raw?
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>9000

with Hitler's corpse?
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>>138820331
There's no way she'd allow him otherwise.
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>>138820270
>telling the truth
>shitposting

Lise please.
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>>138820241

Yeah but like, I'm a Sonics fan. We don't even have a team anymore.
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>>138820163
>>138820206
>>138820227
oh well, at least it isn't twizzlers
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>>138820352
Every man in Germany save for Theo

Poles

Soviets

Ukies

Balticscum

Jamals
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>>138820352

>implying Hitler was dead in 1983
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>>138820396
You forgot the Jews.
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>>138820424
Jews don't like filthy chicks like Lise, its another Shoah for them
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>>138820424
>Stasi
>welcoming jews
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>>138820399
¬¬ >corpse
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>>138810619
She calls him Onii-san as a joke when he teases her about peeing herself. He gets really fucking weirded out because she's not Lise, yet she reminds him of Lise a lot and now she's calling him big brother just like Lise did, so there's this big uncanny feeling going on for him.

It does get him to let up on his stupid "Call me Eberbach" thing so she calls him Theodor again.

I really hope Ursula calls Theo onii-san all the time in SM Extra.
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>>138820396
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>>138820447
>Stasi
>not spying on the Jews

>>138820446
>another Shoah

6 million Jews get AIDS.
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>>138820500
I find it funny that East Germany is portrayed as baby smashing, stasi fucking communist Nazis while in reality most of the surviving Nazis lived the rest of their lives in West Germany.
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>>138820541
>6 million Jews get AIDS.

Well, she's a HOEhenstein
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>>138820541
Franz Beckenbauer
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>>138820545
The nazis were distributed fairly equaly
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>>138820545
>communist nazis

You would be unwelcome on either side
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>>138815283
Plus there was Ketchup's guarantee in the first VN that he'd make them martyrs.
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>>138820541
>>138820545

6 million Jews get AIDS
>Rotavirus + Ebola virus = Lise?
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>>138820541
>in Berlin

I bet Walther had fun with her too
>>
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>>138820751
>Is that a cock?
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>>138820516
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>>138820715
>I bet Walther had fun with her too

More AIDS for Poland.
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>>138820751
>>138820756
>>138820774
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>>138820775

Poland - banned from AnimeSuki. >>138811502
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Did Axman get Lises hips to move on their own?

What about double peace ahegao with heart pupils?
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>>138820862
Ketchup is gay

(The Stasi Armed Police Security Force "Grey Beast" as per chapter) was the one who broke her. He tells her after the first time "Don't worry, I won't be touching you. I'm a guy who likes cleanliness, and after your new friends had fun with you, you're filthy."
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>>138820862
Axmann is a patrician, he doesn't fuck plebs like Lise
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>>138820924
>Axmann's new fuccboi suspiciously looks like Jurgen
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>>138820821
Needs heart pupils
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>>138821146
>he wasn't here when TE was airing
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>>138820952
>Axmann is a patrician, he doesn't fuck plebs like Lise

Jurgen was his fukboi, ass and all.
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>>138821146
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Go out, find this. What you do?
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>>138821189
This is at least the second time that one guy has insisted "This artist hates Beatrix, they'll never draw her" only to get proven wrong.
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>>138821189

Read the letter, arrange a date, stuff her in the trunk of my car and lock her in the basement because as a spy there's probably no official record of her existing in my country.

After that, raise a family with her. In the basement of course.

And I'd make her wear the ribbons.
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>>138821189
Pull out my PSM and watch cautiously.
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>>138820952
>>138821008
>>138821178

shown to care for his direct subordinates like fuccboi-kun and Jurgen, doesn't really care for the his image
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>>138821189
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGG
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>>138821264
Ketchup loves blond kid
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>>138821189
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>>138821402
Didn't know that quantum computer needed all that maintenance.
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>>138821251
Hello Fritzl how are you doing?
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>>138821442
What the fuck is this?
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>>138821483

$$$$$$$$
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>>138821189
We Flashdance nao?
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>>138821523
yes
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theodore pls
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>>138821517
I've never played the trilogy. Is Sumika really that bad?
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>>138821576
yes
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>>138821576
yes.
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>>138821576
She is not. She is best girl.
Haters just want to make her look bad.
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>>138821576
All the used goods in ML are the most devoted and loyal characters to exists.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNTx6ZogBbY
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>>138821541
Beatrix's a prostitute?
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>>138821619
>>138821624
twizzlersmind
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>>138821667
she is most likely still a virgin.
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>>138821709
As if Jurgen didn't tap that.
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>>138821724

Jurgen GAY >>138821178
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Are the the ln and good? IF so nuv love or svars first?
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>>138821709
>Beatrix
>virgin

A semen demon like her? No way!
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>>138821619
>>138821624
>>138821626
>>138821517
>>138821442

stop!

shit model
kyoshit
kanon
uguu
soft hair
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>>138821825
Theo please.
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>>138821821
Kraut, are you drunk again?
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>>138821845
DOZO
>>
Interesting how similar this is to the rebellion arc
https://youtu.be/NUraRBy2Fcs
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>>138821847
>Theo please.

Beatrix please.
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>>138821626
>She is best girl.

That's not Meiya
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>>138822001
>best girl

Who's better? Meiya or Kei?
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>>138819328
Oh hey where did you get this? I thought only her in her NVA uniform existed.
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>>138822001
She IS best girl.
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>>138821189
I'm kinda not sure. I mean she clearly bullied herself to hell and back to actually rack up the nerve to write a letter, so bullying her more may break her poor heart.

What do. I don't want her to cry afterwards.
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>>138822078
>shit lunches
>shit at lacrosse
>shit at everything

Shit girl

>>138822057
>Meiya or Who?

Meiya
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>>138822057
They're both shit.
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I want Lise to sexually tease Katia.
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The waifu wars sure are brutal.
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>>138822174
Only tease?
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>>138822144
Meika
>shit at common sense
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>>138822143
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>>138822208
Hitler the best girl
>>
Anons, I just finished Total Eclipse. How do I get into Schwarzesmarken? How much of the LN has been translated?
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>>138822354
0%
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>>138822354
Only the first volume so anime is probably your best option.
>>
Why would you watch muv-luv, it makes me feel like shit watching cute girls getting destroyed.
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>>138822413
I watch them get destroyed in hentai all the time, what's the difference?
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>>138822457
I don't know whenever I try to watch stuff like this it makes me feel bad, I just find it hard to understand.
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>>138822392
>>138822401

;_; I'm assuming the VN's the same case?

I wanna watch the anime, but from lurking these threads, I learned that there were a number of things that they skipped, and I'd like to have at least a means of comparing which parts they skipped in the anime adaptation
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>>138822532
>I'm assuming the VN's the same case?

Unfortunately yes. Your best bet is to learn Japanese or wait 3 - 4 years until someone decides to pick it up.
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>>138821845

Fafner and kanon are the worst character model/s in the shows
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>>138822354
Anime is your best option, for now at least.

Sadly, it butchers a lot of the characterization.

How did you like Total Eclipse?
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>>138822734
horrible
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>>138822532
I meant VN no LN
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>>138822734
Total Eclipse sucked so much. What were they thinking?
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>>138822849
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>>138822734
It was enjoyable, albeit a bit shocking at times in that these things are happening to cute girls.

Then again, it is Muv-Luv, so I really shouldn't be surprised.
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>>138822907
>TE sucked so much
>when its just a UL/Alt clone
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>>138822984
They could have made it better, you know.
>>
Lise died, we all cried.
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>>138822413
>>138822519
Life is so boring that even feeling bad is better. That's why drama/tragedy exist.
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>>138822792
>>138822907
Oh come on, it wasn't bad.

Rather, how did it suck?

>>138822968
Indeed, but yes, what better way than to learn it is Muv Luv.

Favorite TE girl?

>>138822413
Life is mankind's struggle. An end that you worked hard for, that you suffered for, tastes all the sweeter.
>>
>>138822984
RomCom nonsense