Are ten year olds Lolis?

loli is a body type, not an age group

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>>138753776

>>138753776

She can be a 9000 year old youkai, but she's still loli if she looks like a pre-pubescent.

dear god I hope

otherwise I've been living a lie.

>>138753869

It is, try to deny it you newfag.

>>138753776
What is this meme. Loli is an age, not a body type.

>>138754453
The fuck is with that logic?
>i swear she looked 18 so she must be an adult judge!

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>>138755179
Shitpost all you want but the fact is you can assign any arbitrary age to a fictional character. Going by age alone pic related would be a loli which I doubt many people in loli threads would argue that is in fact a loli.

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>>138755320
Depends on species and mental maturity for that species.
100 year year old elf is still a loli, a 100 year old human is a granny.

>>138753496
what's with all these pedo threads? bunch of sick fucks

>>138755417
This is /a/, you must be looking for
>>>/facebook/

>>138755179

If it looks like a loli, would you still call it a loli?

How retarded are you?

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>>138755465
What? No, of course not. I wouldnt call eva a loli. That would be rude.

>>138755465
reminder that Chibiusa is an 800 year old loli.

To be a loli you need
>to be at an age below the sexual maturity of that species
>have unaltered memory/mind/maturity
For instance, a 6 y/o clone with the body, maturity and mind of a 22 y/o woman is not a loli

>>138755681

So lewd lolis do not exist, rendering YEARS of doujinshis nonexistent. Whatever you thought you fapped to, it simply wasn't real, it was all your imagination.

>>138755853
This makes no sense. Do you even bother to read your posts?

>>138755888
So loli=kid.

>>138755888

Your post makes no sense, you have no idea what a loli is according to the community that gave birth to the term.

Get a new hobby, mate.

>>138755956
That is oversimplified, but yes. A loli is typically a kid.

>>138755888
>trying to bring reason and logic in an age vs. body type loli debate
Nigga what the fuck are you doing?

>>138755966
Sure. I bet you were here for sooooo long. I'm sure you even know who moot was!

>>138755179
It's both.

>>138755465
No, because it looks like.
That's not the same as being.

>>138755179
>loli is an age
So Komoe-sensei is not a loli, but Hotaru is?

>>138756058

>thinks 4chan invented the term 'loli'
>being this new

You are hopeless.

>>138756058

Nice delusion, bro.

>>138756108
Better yet, Amira is.

>>138756108
No idea how old hotaru is, but pink is no loli. Although since hotaru has hotarus and she doesnt seem to be an oppai loli, i'm guessing she has reached sexual maturity and is not a loli either.

>>138756223
She's eleven.

>>138756223

>i'm guessing she has reached sexual maturity

Stop guessing, faggot. Stop applying your normalfag logic to anime/manga. You clearly are not fit for the discussion.

It's a body type, end of story.

>>138755464
There's lolis on facebook, bro.

>>138755681
>>to be at an age below the sexual maturity of that species
If you mean "prepubescent" you're wrong because pubescent lolis exist. See: any series with an 11 or 12 year old loli.

If you mean not post-pubescent, then you're wrong. See: any series with middle schoolers that aren't lolis.

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>>138756273
>>138756290
This girl is 11 years old? Then yes. She is a loli, despite appearences.
Also
>STOP USING LOGIC YOUR TRIGGERING ME!

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>>138755410
What about a 50+ old human woman with the mentality of a perv old geezer in the body of a pre-pubescent girl?

>>138756438
Human lolis go up to 11. 12 is just young.

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ITT: The definition of a word which has changed over time based on cultural influence is turned into a dichotomy.

>>138756526
>Ro-Kyu-Bu is not a loli series.

you're still a bunch or raging peadophiles. Turn yourselves in before you hurt someone.

>>138756526
Being a loli has nothing to do with age. It is solely based upon appearance.

>>138756572
Obviously.

>>138756647
How do you figure?

>>138756637 (You)

>>138756464

Just what I expected, confirmed retarded newfag.

>>138753496
Whatever your heart tells you one is.

How to tell if something is a loli:

1. Think "if this was 3D would fapping to this make me a pedophile" if Yes, it's loli.

2. Think "if this was 3D would fapping to this make me a hebephile" if Yes, it's probably loli.

If you do not know what "hebephile" means, you are unqualified to determine the loliness of a character.

>>138756532

How has it changed in the context of otaku culture?

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>>138756737
>trying to win arguments by implying your an oldfag.

>>138756774
>If this was 3D

That's the wrong train of thought entirely so your opinion is invalid

>>138756787
It always meant underage girls, but reedit likes to pretend like they are normies.

>>138756824

Actually, it was the poster who I replied to who defeated himself in the argument by claiming that Hotaru is a loli.

For all I care he's a newfag and I'm just pointing it out.

>>138756846
It works, so why not use it?

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Process of elimination.

If a girl has the right bodytype then she is a loli.
If she doesn't have the right bodytype but is 7-13 years of age then she is a loli.
If she doesn't possess either of the two above qualities then she is not a loli.

Having both the right bodytype and the proper age is just a bonus

>>138755259

Cannot be bothered with arguing with retards.

Closing the thread now.

>>138756896
Again, still trying to make yourself sound respectable by implying you have been here a long time, instead of making a counterargument.

>>138756952
No it doesn't because loli doesn't exist in 3D

>>138756869

You are probably right, but that only supports the idea that loli really is about "body type" because of the countless works of fiction that expanded on the term.

>i.e.: ageless loli succubi, etc.

>>138756983
>If she doesn't have the right bodytype but is 7-13 years of age then she is a loli.
1. 13 is usually a bit old for loli, 2. since 2D age is entirely arbitrary you get situations where a character has a given age of 7-13, but the character is in no way like a real 7-13 year old.

>>138756464
Not that Hotaru, the other one. You know, the one whose entire presence on /a/ is "How is this girl eleven with that body?"

>>138756997
>can't handle funposting wars
Why did you even open the thread to begin with?

>>138757059
They arent ageless though. If their maturity is stunted, that might make sense, but otherwise they are old hags with young bodies. Most of the time in those cases, they are mocking a girl for having a loli body, and not actually calling them a loli.

>>138757044
Yes, and?

>>138757026

My argument is that your's is stupid, makes no sense according to what the whole doujinshi community has to say on the matter, if you really need me to spell it for you, then what's the point or arguing against you?

A prerequisite for arguing on a topic is to be knowledge on said topic, prerequisite which so far you don't seem to meet.

>>138757145

Then again, "old hag" is not a valid archetype, that's just the way you call it, how would you call that specific type of character if you were to, in example, look it up on gelbooru or exhentai?

>>138756704
See
>>138757119

>>138757119
>1.
Not according to the master.

>2.
Doesn't matter.

>>138757397
What master?

And what do you mean it doesn't matter? In what world is this>>138756464 a loli?

>>138757374
Your entire argument seems to be
>your stupid, just believe me.
Are you a liberal by any chance?

>>138757374
Loli is just used as a catch all term for that body type on sites like gel or sadpanda because of ease of use.

>>138753496

Sakura is literally going through puberty during the show. So she isn't a Loli.

Some girls who are 10 can still be considered loli. But its 2D so who cares? You're not gonna be seeing her period.

>>138757577
She looks like a little girl to me so loli it is.

>>138757462

>the liberal boogeyman strikes again

Nice try, but not at all. Although I would say that our discussion boils down to "you're stupid, believe me", I do encourage you to stop saying such stupid things on the internet to avoid being mocked publicly, just a friendly tip.

>>138757530

Alright, but you still have to come up for a term that fits your criteria, so far it seems that loli really is the correct term.

What if you were to deny that such character wasn't a loli on a japanese board? Do you think that would fly over there?

>>138757434
She's not? That Hotaru is somewhere around 15-18.

>>138757577
Pedo plz go.

>>138757762
But if she were 11 you'd call her a loli?

>>138757668
I'm not sure that i do. For instance, milf is typically used to desribe all attractive older women, weither they have children or not.

>>138757823
Sure. But she isn't so your point is mute per say.

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is this a loli?

>>138757873
>milf is typically used to desribe all attractive older women, weither they have children or not.
Just because people use a term wrong doesn't make them right.

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>>138755179
No sir, Zakuro is not a fucking loli

>>138757884
Except it's not. Because you are claiming an adult character that looks and acts like an adult could be a loli if someone decided "fuck it, let's make her 11". Do you not realize how that makes the entire term pointless?

>>138757961
Exactly, just like loli.

>>138757949
Disgaea 1 Etna is. Disgaea 2 and on she's borderline.

>>138757884
>But she isn't so your point is mute per say

You need to be 18 to post on this website

>>138758020
Loli comes from Lolita a book about an underage girl and was adopted by Japan to refer to underage girls. I don't know how people can misunderstand something so simple.

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>>138757949
I'd say no because while she has a small body, it looks more refined with adult / teen features

>>138758005
>Hotaru
>acts like an adult

I don't fucking think so. And even in other cases I don't think I've ever seen the "no no she's a loli because she's 11 even though she look like a milf" thing you're talking about here so I don't see what the big deal you're making here is.

>>138758102
Irregardless its the same difference and i literally could care less for all intensive purposes.

>>138758172
I genuinely believe that they dont really think that loli is a body type, but wont to look like normal fags.

>>138758172

The majority of people (including in Japan) don't know where the term comes from. So its very easy for people to misunderstand.

>>138758198
She had more childlike features in the original game though. Like I said here >>138758024
2 and on she's borderline.

>>138758246
>I don't think I've ever seen the "no no she's a loli because she's 11 even though she look like a milf" thing you're talking about here
Because people other than you aren't retarded enough to think that would count as loli.

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>>138758256
>>138758172
>This is loli to you people

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>>138758172
>>138758256
>>138758341
But this isn't.

And you try to claim we just want to be normalfags?

You guys are the ones that want to fap to grown women and call yourselves lolicon.

>>138758271
Then I agree, though I always have had trouble with classifying Etna and that particular body type. I guess it's borderline just like you said.

>>138758341
>17 y/o
Nope

>>138758489
It's underage. Therefore it's loli by your logic.

>>138758489
The guy he's responding to said it refers to underage girls.

>>138758301
Alright okay I see my mistake here.

>If she doesn't have the loli bodytype but is 7-13 years of age and doesn't have the full post-puberty ridden teen+ bodytype then she is a loli.

Happy now?

>>138758503
No, its not. My definiton of loli is pre sexual maturity. That slut could have popped out babies for years.

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Sakura = old and busted
Prisma Ilya = new hotness

>>138757949
I'd hit it, so that means yes.

>>138758578
>but doesn't have the full post-puberty ridden teen+ body type
If you're going to restrict it to that why wouldn't you restrict it to the loli body type?

>>138758578
Well, that's less retarded at least.

>>138758503
By Japan standards any girl above 13 are adults.

>>138758733
Because then all the good lolis are excluded from being lolis.

>>138758489
>>138758750
Serious question. If you were given a picture of a girl like that, and were told they were 11. Would you call them a loli?

>>138758786
Im an overweight, sweaty, greasy, stinky otaku. Im the one who is gonna be doing the cucking

>>138758875
Who sakaki? No chance in hell. Pink sensei? Maybe.

>>138758839
Like who? Who is under 13 years of age, yet has the body of a 14-(I dunno what you'd count as a max here) year old? And how are these characters better than all of the 13- year old lolis?

>>138758875
Yes, doesn't mean i would be right.

>>138758750
No, go research your laws more closely.

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>>138758960
Hell, to use just one example from this thread.

>And how are these characters better than all of the 13- year old lolis?
I was just generalising here, it all depends of the character of course.

>>138758942
Then congratulations you're a bodytype fag. Although I have no idea how you count Komoe as "maybe"

>>138759010
So you admit you're wrong.

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>>138758610
>old and busted

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>>138759263

This is a Japanese elementary student.

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>>138759349
5 head

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This is a 12 year old pilot.

>>138759278
No, that answer would only be true if i was shown a picture and nothing else.

if they are titsless, of course

>>138759436
You said loli was about age, but then when presented a character with an age in the loli age range, you rejected them as a loli.

>>138756132
Good job quoting the same person and not refuting anything.

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>>138758960
This is a 9 year old.

>>138759684
And is excluded by the terms given >>138758578

>>138759515
How the fuck is 17 in the loli age? Loli age typically maxs out at 11, with rare exceptions.

>>138760026

If it looks like a loli it is a loli, despite the age.

God how retarded can people get?

>>138760072
Jesus. This is going nowhere.

>>138759263
ALL HER EYES WENT STRAIGHT TO HER TITS

>>138760026
Read the fucking post chain again you drooling retard.

>>138760291
You seem to be confusing me with another anon, jizz mop.

>>138760434
How so? No matter who you are, you can see why what you said is retarded by re-reading the post chain.

>>138760507
No, you cant. You seem to think an age fag thinks anyone underage is a loli. That is stupid.

>>138760619
An agefag is someone who thinks whether or not a character is a loli is based on age. So when given a character that is obviously not a loli and asked "If they were 11 would they be a loli" they should say yes. That means your comment here >>138760026 does not apply you illiterate retard.

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>>138756471
Best loli

>>138760780
>100 year old rust bucket
>"loli"

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>>138760829

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>>138760880

>>138760748
C'mon, you gotta be trolling me. Nobody is that stupid.

>>138760935
I was just about to say the same thing.

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I don't know but Sakura sure is cute.

>>138760162

There nowhere else to go, just admit you are wrong.

Loli is a body type, you don't like it? eat shit and die.

>>138753776
>>138755179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daBFy_hq5FY

>>138761684

I can see the roots of why Nichijou was so dry and unfunny.

>>138762776
Shut your whore mouth.

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>>138755320
>you can assign any arbitrary age to a fictional character.
This. In some shows they are child aged but look developed, other shows they are young adult aged but look like children. In other words, the less acceptable it would be for someone to find your hentai of a female character, the more likely it is she is a loli.

>>138756637
I haven't hurt anyone so I don't know what to turn myself in for.

>>138765838
You need to turn yourself in for wrongthink

>>138765838
Not what you have done, but what you will do.

>>138753496
Of course, anything with the body of a 10-5 years old girl is definitely a loli. 12-11 and 4 would depend on how underdeveloped, or developed, the girl is.
13 and beyond is definitely not a loli.

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are goburins loli?

>>138768008
loli goburins are loli. Non-loli goburins are not loli.

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Attention, the future is here.

And it moves.

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>>138768794
Still one week to go, isn't there?
>soon i'll be masturbating to a train

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>>138768794
But the translation is several planets away.

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>>138759684
>>138757949

>>138768904
Trial just came out. Includes even one H scene.

>>138768937
It has became increasingly clear that if you want to enjoy the best loli-related content, you need to learn Japanese. Do it for them.

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this is a japanese toddler

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>>138757949

10-12 year olds are the best desu

did we reach a verdict on what a loli is?

>>138771670
My brother of who will get hired for diversity political correctness programs and no other reason.

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Only Embryos get me hard

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>>138774900

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Japanese 11 year old.

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Prostitute 15 yo

>>138775017
Neither do boats.

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>>138775145

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>>138775145
Delete this.

>>138774900
Only pre-conception gets me hard

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>>138775145

>>138753776
>Definition of LOLITA
>a precociously seductive girl

>Definition of PRECOCIOUS
>1: exceptionally early in development or occurrence <precocious puberty>
>2: exhibiting mature qualities at an unusually early age <a precocious child>

>Definition of SEDUCTIVE
>sexually attractive

>inb4 BUT LOLI != LOLITA
Loli is literally just a shortened version of lolita. It's the same fucking word.
>inb4 BUT THAT'S A 3D TERM!
Lolita is a character from a book. She's not 3d.

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>>138779136
Don't take people saying loli is a body type seriously. There will always be 2D and 3D lolicons, 2D tend to be in denial about what lolicon is because they don't want the association. Nothing will ever change in that regard. Just post some loli.

>>138779136
source: my ass

>>138773387
Guaranteed replies everytime

>>138753776
Loli is neither a body type nor an age group. It's the measure of how hard my dick is.

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Explain yourselves, agefags.

>>138756464
>newfag only knows about the hotaru who everyone will forget in a few weeks

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>>138781747
She was a tumor for most of her life before the doctor saving her if I remember well. But Pinoko still is a perfect, adorable loli.

>>138753496
For me, age is just a number, if its a really cute character with a charming small framed body, it's a loli. Certain character might be a 1000 years old dragon in human form, but it doesn't matter for my dick and my heart.

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>>138781747
>>138782584
Godamnit, Pinoko is just so cute.

>>138756471
>woman
>not old man

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>>138782584
>>138782639
>hundreds of doujins
>all of them too old, never to be found
>scans never ever

Loli is a bodytype, but I, for one, am very flexible with just what that bodytype means. Just as lolita referred to girls between 9-14, I too consider girls in that general figure range to be loli.

Now, if you said 幼女, that would be a different story.

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Identifying lolis: an useful guide
1. Omit absolutely every single mention of the age of a 2D girl. All of them, forget that they exist.
2. Ask yourself: does that girl look like a child, aged from 3 to 13 years old? Does she have the body of a child ?
If you answered yes to both, then she is a loli (please note that young girls with apparent age of 3 or 4 might actually fit better under the toddlercon tag depending on the art style, so be careful to not rustle someone's jimmies).
Now, how to decide the subcategories:
- Is she anything in between 18 and 40 years old, despite the childish look? If yes, she's a legal loli (合法ロリ).
- Is she older than 40 (this includes fantasy creatures who are 1000 years old and so on)? If yes, she's a loli babaa (ロリババァ).
- In case she has ridiculously sized, overdeveloped breasts, omit those as well. Is the resulting body that of a little girl? If yes, she's an oppai loli (ロリ巨乳).

>>138784130
rustle

>>138754453
not all lolis are pre pubescent, pedophile
the best are pubescent

>>138779585
You should probably go see a doctor if you have a dictionary up your ass, Anon.

>>138753776
It's both, and at the same time no.