Somehow we're still going.
4 and a half months until Odaiba Day.
Surely we'll have dropped off by then, right?
tri. part 3 of 6, "Confession" out 24 September.
Reminder that Jou's girlfriend was with him all the time
a better question would be what did the writers have against the beast spirits.
Too fabulous to care what the poll thinks
It would only reaffirm my belief that Sora is eternal best girl.
Reminder to never sexualize their friendship.
I hope Koushiro realises what's he potentially getting himself into.
Mimi's perfection will ruin him.
I mean it's pretty much too late to use them for the D3. But you can use them for other premium bandai stuff, and I mean we've got like 4 more parts in Tri so another Digivice is inevitable. No way they'll pass up the opportunity to make more cash off of exclusives
>the Saban crew will never get back together for one last dub of Tri
They've been this way since they were eleven. Constantly switching from best of friends to punching each others lights out.
>Everybody looking at Ken with confusion and fear
>Takeru looks like he's about to fuck him up
>What's up with this abusive Yamato/Taichi relationship?
Has their relationship ever been truly non abusive? They always jump between fighting and working together at the drop of a hat
There is now
Wait 3 of 6?
I thought it was supposed to be 7 parts.
Also it feels as if Hikari's special position got transfered to Mei.
Also the onsen episode was a total disappointment.
Hikari still best girl and too good for these fags and hipsters.
Well she lacks the holy ring or another similar sign.
But I would like if her evolution leeds to lady devimon and Lilithmon so that we might get a grand fusion betwen her nad Angewomon or Ophanimon.
Actually he is not, Tai compared to them is actually thinking about the consequences of what they are doing and sofar they were never truly in control of the fights or could move them to a safe area.
>Hikari still best girl
>Well Mimi is not bad aswell, in adventure 02 she was garbage
What? She and Jou were like the only original kids that they didn't fuck up in 02
>Wanting another Gundam Unicorn situation
>in adventure 02 she was garbage
I don't follow.
>design = character
You're being silly.
Mimi actually got shit done in 02 despite her limited appearances.
Serious question: what is it about Mimi that makes her best girl?
She's ok but she's not Hikari
Why do shit and slime love Mimi so much.
>what is it about Mimi that makes her best girl?
If you're asking this, you still haven't realised yourself.
So so good.
>Now we need the first one as a .webm.
>shit and slime
We should know then.
Proper answer: they mistake her charm for romantic affection.
PURGE THE UNCLEAN FOR THE GOD DIGIMON EMPEROR.
What the fuck? Are you only talking about the dub? I mean I'm assuming you're not but that's totally wrong Hikari has her shit together? No she doesn't. A very large part of Adventure is how she has to rely on her onii-chan to protect her and this trait is only brought up one other time in 02. Outside of that, what even is Hikari's character? Do you remember episode 21 of Adventure? The one where Taichi goes back to the real world and we see Hikari for the first time? That episode she was creepy as fuck. We never get anything like that from Hikari ever in Adventure or 02 and the closest thing that Hikari has as a character is "girl Takeru" since both of them are basically the same person by 02 and Tri has only just begun to give her some sense of a different personality
Mimi is much more in tune with things than it would appear at first glance. The main reason Mimi is generally thought of as the main girl is that it felt like she is consistently the only girl that actually got consistent attention from the staff. Sora is practically just a mom, Hikari had like no character story at all and came in too late to get one and the less said about Miyako the better. Mimi actually has a character arc and a dynamic personality.
Remember this >>138720078 fucking scene and how it completely contrasts with her early in the series? Remember how she split off from the group cause she couldn't handle it and came back with an army? Remember when in this movie alone she straight up gets in the girls talking about her's face? These are all things that people like about Mimi and make her stand out. There's a reason why the Princess Mimi episode is a fan favorite
Well if the infected digimon are actually hunting down the source of the infection and kill it that is a good thing.
She is like the perfect little sister unlike my own who is a, I cannot even say it, it is too horrible someone of my family is one of them.
She is Calumon, she is their light of digitation.
That is also why the darkness and Cthulu want her.
Without her Jo and Mimi could not have had their digimon evolve to mega.
Also remember all the strange stuff she did in the original.
Like shining light on everyone and healing them, seeing digimon everywhere before everyone else, hell she even knew most of the digimons names without a digimon or the analyzer telling her.
And all the other stuff.
Are ypu kdding me she was a weak little girl, that was seriously sick in season one, apparently the shit in her past with the hospital even caused a chronic weakness.
Obviously she had to rely on others if you close to dying, but she still healed fucking everyone and helped cause the defeat of Machinedramon.
>Without her Jo and Mimi could not have had their digimon evolve to mega.
What? Jo and Mimi evolving to their final forms had nothing to do with Hikari. They literally said why they were able to do it in the movie
>Like shining light on everyone and healing them, seeing digimon everywhere before everyone else
Wasn't all this stuff in like that one episode when she gets those Jesus powers
>hell she even knew most of the digimons names without a digimon or the analyzer telling her.
Are you talking about Koromon? There is a reason for that. I don't remember that happening outside of that
>What? Jo and Mimi evolving to their final forms had nothing to do with Hikari. They literally said why they were able to do it in the movie
Remember what happend before Jo came back and who it was.
>Wasn't all this stuff in like that one episode when she gets those Jesus powers
Small shit like that was shown inbetween aswell.
Also season two was supposed to elaborate on that and the show was originaly planned to go more into the direction of the darkness that called her into the other world before someone higher up decided to let us bring the emo vamp back and change the course of the show.
>Are you talking about Koromon? There is a reason for that. I don't remember that happening outside of that
There were more than just Koromon, I recommend you to rewatch the show, I just marathoned it two or three weeks ago.
>Are ypu kdding me she was a weak little girl, that was seriously sick in season one, apparently the shit in her past with the hospital even caused a chronic weakness.
Typically by having a chronic weakness you do not have your shit together. I am not knocking Hikari for being sick by the way, I know about that facet. I'm talking about how, because she came far too late in the story, she never got to properly develop and because of this as well as 02's writing failures in general, all her character was was "obligatory girl" and to parallel Takeru in everything. The only real episodes she got were the two Dark Ocean ones and I think we know what a mistake that turned out to be.
She was solely ever used in Adventure as a plot device because of her Jesus powers and therein is the problem
>Remember what happend before Jo came back and who it was.
There's a difference between bringing Jo back, which is true and "being the reason Palmon and Gomamon evolved" which is absolutely not true
>Small shit like that was shown inbetween aswell.
I count literally two times.
>Also season two was supposed to elaborate on that
Which is why I'm judging her in the show as is.
I still am not seeing how any of this makes Hikari the best girl. All you have been posting are "things that she (really her crest) have done. What about her character? What about her memorable moments that have to do with her as a person? I can name a bunch of that for Mimi as I laid out but I can't for Hikari because she again came too late for that in Adventure and didn't do shit in 02. Again, Tri is just only now starting to do something with her personality wise. Her interactions with Takeru actually feel like something interesting
The problem is that those jesus powers never got the elaboration they were supposed to get.
That shit was off with her and the even amongst the kids she was special the moment they mentioned she is light, when all the others have character traits.
I mean remember the episode the kids returned and they wondered who the 8th one might be and everyone in the background you have Hikari written.
I want to play the PSP game retelling the original in hope they elaborate more on missed out parts.
>Tri reminded me of her weird antics
Mimi's eccentric, not an airhead.
That's part of why she's so well-loved. When Mimi's on screen, most of the time you're guaranteed to have something hilarious happen. If it's not hilarious, then it's emotional. The Lilimon evolution in episode 35 is a brilliant example of the latter.
My fucking bro.
>There's a reason why the Princess Mimi episode is a fan favorite
It's such a great episode.
The rise and fall of the Gekomon Princess's reign alongside numerous failed attempts to get TonosamaGeokmon awakened (including the glorious homophone versions of "I Wish") while Mimi realises if you're going to keep being selfish, nobody will like you.
She deserves to act arrogant for all I care because she is literally perfect.
There are similarities between that episode and what she faces in Ketsui when you think about it.
>There's a difference between bringing Jo back, which is true and "being the reason Palmon and Gomamon evolved" which is absolutely not true
She helped him with that to get over his shit, which in turn helped mimi.
>I still am not seeing how any of this makes Hikari the best girl. All you have been posting are "things that she (really her crest) have done. What about her character? What about her memorable moments that have to do with her as a person? I can name a bunch of that for Mimi as I laid out but I can't for Hikari because she again came too late for that in Adventure and didn't do shit in 02. Again, Tri is just only now starting to do something with her personality wise. Her interactions with Takeru actually feel like something interesting
Well I understand where you are coming from and the big brother is speaking out of me.
Exactly. What the fuck is Light for a character?
I'll tell you what it means. It means that this is what this character is. Light. She is the Jesus. There is no character or room to grow because of her crest trait, she solely exist to be Light. Good for Digimon to have their Jesus, not so much for the show
>yfw you realize the fourth(?) movie is probably the only chance for Sora to even be remotely interesting
>which in turn helped mimi.
Hikari has absolutely no influence in Mimi's development arc whatsoever.
The only people who have an influence on Mimi are Jou and Meiko (and possibly Sora). He gets Mimi to open up a bit more about her bold nature while Meiko is the one who puts Mimi back to her usual over-confident self.
>Well I understand where you are coming from and the big brother is speaking out of me.
That's not really saying anything other than
In fact, it sounds like you've given up trying to argue for Hikari.
Let this be a lesson: never try and argue against "Mimi is the best girl". You will lose and lose badly.
>Mimi helped herself. Fuck, Mimi didn't even change.
I think she became a bit more aware of other people's feelings but by and large you're right.
Once she got over that hurdle of "giving a fuck what other people think about you" then she was back to her ultra-confident, egotistic and most importantly pure self.
That in turn activated her Ultimate level.
>"WELP , TIME TO BEAT THIS FUCKER AGAIN"
>FUCKING ICHIJOUJI, I KNEW I SHOULD HAVE KILLED THAT FUCKER
Ruki's not nearly as scary as her tongue makes her seem.
That's what happens when you give a girl a personality that boils down to mom.
The price she pays for being the mother of the group.
That said, I'd like to see more Sora/Mimi moments. Being the only two girls for most of the show forced them together but they were so great with one another.
Maybe we'll get them in movie 4?
Even after she opens up she's still a sliver tongued bitch most of the time.
Isn't that the truth.
Once she gets you with her cuteness, you're infected.
Then it's her choice what to do with you.
When you're a little kid, you'd probably think Sora was the best because she ran with the dudes but then you get older and realize it really was Mimi all along
something is unnerving about this split second frame.
An important part of why it felt like they gave Mimi a lot more attention in Adventure than the others is because her voice actress Ai Maeda (AiM LOVE) was an up and coming idol back then. It had the double benefit of being the voice of Mimi did absolutely wonders for her popularity
>I liked Mimi more as a kid because Palmon seemed cooler than Biyomon. Watching the sub as an adult I still like Palmon a lot more than Piyomon.
Damn fucking right
Palmon is a really underrated partnermon and her voice is fucking adorable
I'm sure that's half the reason
But overall Sora is really really boring. She basically fulfills the role of obligatory girl in a boys toyetic series and mainly only has the role of the mom. I don't think there's anything necessarily "bad" about Sora but there's just so very little to Sora that there's not much you can do with. You can dislike Miyako, you can wonder what went wrong with Hikari, you can worship Mimi but Sora is like "eh, she was there"
I actually liked Sora. She was well balanced and had no crippling issues unlike the others. And when her issue presented itself, she solved it quickly and even got a new evolution out of it.
Finally these threads are slowing down
>I actually liked Sora. She was well balanced and had no crippling issues unlike the others.
Did you forget when she ditched the others and ran around sort of helping/not-helping them in the background because she found out her Crest was of Love and didn't think she deserved it
The Sora focus episodes (the few that there were) felt like they had absolutely no idea what to do with her to give her depth. I think Sora's mom develops better than Sora did
She's a non-character. Her only defining personality at this point is "Do I choose Taichi or Yamato?". Admittedly, that fills her issue regarding love, but they forgot to write her a personality beyond that. She's not a tomboy anymore, which makes sense since she's growing up, but she's not really anything else either.
Mimi was handled well
Joe was handled well
They're handling Koshiro well
They're handling Yamato decently
Hikari and Takeru are more... eh
Taichi is being handled really poorly, but at least he still has a personality
Meiko is an anime archetype
Was she ever really that much of a tomboy? I mean, yeah she was on the soccer team but when I rewatched Adventure I realized I never really got that vibe from her.
Also her Japanese voice makes her sound like 10 years older than the other kids
Compared to, like, Ruki who I would consider a tomboy in a heartbeat
In Adventure she was a tomboy, by 02 she had already mellowed out a bit. Still a sports girl though.
Going by one interview I think they'll go with her still being the team mom, who worries and tries to make everyone happy.
My first idea was to make her rebellion against mother's ideals an active thing with her being punk-like, fascinated with western ideas, and considering love a weakness, which detaches her from her partner but learns to reconcile with her mother and accept others.
That however would make her a different character and just be pandering to my fetishes.
I can't believe it's finally coming out. The last PV was 2 years ago.
I like how the kuwagamon that kicked greymon's shit in also did the same for garurumon.
Had alphamon not intervened it likely would have torn through most of the chosen adults.
>tfw you really like BurningGreymon/Vritramon but he barely appears
We all agree that the purple Imperialdramon was a fake, right?
It's never spelled out, but none of the characters in the movie acknowledge that Imperialdramon is V-mon's evolution, or express any hesitation to kill someone who might have been their friend once.
Yes, I know Tri was written to downplay the continuity of 02 so far, I know it's meant to be about the original 8, I know, I know, I know.
Yes, you can joke about how nobody likes V-mon, but seriously I can't imagine them saying *nothing at all* about the possibility of it being the same one.
Either there was some clue that Imperialdramon was a fake before the fight and I missed it, or this is an alternate timeline where the 02 kids died before unlocking their own Imperialdramon so of course no one recognizes him, and the latter doesn't seem likely to me.
>tfw you discover that all 6 main elements have Double Spirit Evolution while Frontier is airing in your country
>Never see them in the anime
I'm still mad I never saw Jet Silphymon or RhinoKabuterimon animated.
Let me tell you what would have happened.
They would lose on their debut episode to some dumb shit like a numemon then keep losing until they give their spirits to Red and Blue.
They do acknowledge it's Imperialdramon (it's impossible to tell from context if they mean the Imperialdramon they know or an Imperialdramon) and Takeru and Hikari react to it going Fighter Mode.
My bet is that they either know or think it's another one because of it's color scheme. No other infected Digimon had different colors.
>We all agree that the purple Imperialdramon was a fake, right?
No, it's the real one. It was just as weak as Daisuke's. Plus even though no one cares about 02 they did recognize it, weakly.
I don't know if he is or not. Right now I'm leaning towards it not being him.
I just don't see how Hackmon is as obviously responsible for it as >>138729631 says. All we know is that he was watching the fight, like he watched everything else in Tri.
The Ken hologram/illusion/vision disappears and Hackmon is shown with a gleaming light from his eye, implying something along the lines of projecting an image
There's also the issue of the Kaiser infecting Leomon and maybe doing something to Meicoomon before giving him back.
I have no reason to believe Hackmon will be a villain or interested in spreading the infection, that would go against his character everywhere else. Of course Adventure can make him a villain if the writers want, but I will not assume that with no evidence.
The thing is, we don't know why or how Leomon got infected. That might not have anything to do with "Ken". It could have happened when he fought Ogremon. Meicoomon's aggravated state could have been the thing triggering Leomon.
Also, I believe that Hackmon is the one sending Koushiro messages, and the "act" that he put on with the Ken hologram was just a method training or preparing the Digidestined for something worse out there.
Meicoomon's corruption could be triggered by the distortion. I'm willing to bet that is the case, due to his reactions in the first movie.
I think he's the one who sent the prophecy too,and I think your reasoning does make sense.
But then why would Ken/Hackmon take Meicoomon just to give it back? Thats what doesn't add up to me, it seemed very clear that Ken wanted something with Meicoomon and gave it back with a smile because he knew his goal (making it go berserk) was accomplished. If Hackmon is really doing things like you said, why would he do things that would incite Meicoomon to go out of control?
I don't think causing Meicoomon to go berserk was his intent. Capturing Meicoomon was just a apart of his test for the Digidestined, upon them defeating his fake Imperialdramon, he gave Meicoomon back as it was never his intent to hurt him.
Assuming Hackmon knew what Meicoomon is, he should know it's a retarded idea to provoke it.
He had other ways of attracting the chosen children, including abducting other digimon or even the agents.
Unless they're going with a clumsy and imature Hackmon (and not just Jesmon in disguise) that makes no sense.
>Assuming Hackmon knew what Meicoomon is
This is the key phrase here. Hackmon may not know what Meicoomon is or what he was capable of, all he may know is that Meicoomon seems to be of some serious importance. Important enough for Alphamon to hunt him down and the Digidestined to want to protect. Hackmon's main focus may be on whatever else he believes is out there. Probably the one behind the distortions and the infection.
I don't think they have to learn a lesson, just face/acknowledge their flaws. The prophecy doesn't imply anything else, some may change after that realization and some may not.
If course it is. Plus if he really was a hologram, how was the Kaiser just walking around in the real world with the gate closed and without Hackmon in the area? He showed no signs of transparency or flickering or wavering. Unless people are upset that Ken is the Kaiser again or they're delusional and desperately want that 02 retcon, I see no reason to doubt that he was real and that it was Ken.
who do you think will be the bad guy behind it all?
my money is on daemon
Do you even know what it's like for japanese teens and the stress they are put under to do well academically? Jyou has been at this for 6 years with no improvement on his grades, he's still average. He has conflictions as he knows he needs to go help his friends but he also has to study and try to bring his grades up. His parents are expecting the up most best from him and then there is this crisis involving shit going down with the Digimon, it's stressing the guy out.
Everything is because of Darkness
>tfw you start falling for Meimei/Mimi cutesy shenanigans.
>tfw no face
I blame /u/ and everything it stands for, but I also really want to see lesbian sex.
Digimon doesn't really get doujin. A female partner for a male character would all depend on what she is for fanart. If it's something like Angewomon then yeah, it'll obviously be super sexualized by the fanbase. But something like a female Blossomon or something wouldn't get sexualized as much. Or a female Cutemon, Culumon or something. It all depends.
> they voice over Leomon with Sean Bean in the dub
Can someone post a screenshot of this that isn't taken by a camera pointed at a screen?
Here is my issue.
1. The story is paper thin
2. The art is Toei level quality for 90% of the movie and only is good for about 10% of the movie
3. You would think that would include the final fight of the movie but you are wrong
why is toei so fuckin lazy
>yfw they dpn't show up
Seraphijob in the third movie poster is because they gonna give flying teapot the Imperialjob treatment in the final movie
Hey guys, I'm trying to compile a map that lists the real-world locations used in Adventure 01/02, Tri, and Digimon Tamers. I thought it would be a cool reference for people that want to visit Odaiba and Shinjuku when they visit Tokyo.
I've made a start on the places, but there's a few to add. It'd be nice to get a screenshot to place with each marker.
You can also use these websites to help:
ADVENTURE 01/02: http://marron.extracaffeine.com/odaiba
Even if you just add your favourite place, that'd be a great help. :)
In Adventure, Palmon was alongside Gomamon, the worst Digimon to me.
In Adventure tri, I got to hear her real voice, and holy fuck do I love her now. Her cute voice and mannerisms make her best Digimon to me.
Her Japanese voice is so adorable i want to gahh
Indeed it is. I know it kinda sounds like baby talk, but the VA pulls it off in a cutesy, non-cringe worthy way, and I like that.
I'm fixing that. Been downloading a few chapters of Adventure to watch again, and I'll do so this weekend.
>1. The story is paper thin
Is Digimon particularly supposed to be dense though?
The closest story that seemed like it had a really expansive story was 02 and that ended up condensing on itself as a result because it was still a toyetic franchise show
There's a difference in format though. For a yearly toy commercial series like Digimon that's basically okay. But a movie series split up into 6 movies over a few years that is clearly being targeted towards an older audience? Not cool.
>imperialdrimon is the Dna digivoled of kens and daisku Digimon
>daisku is evil now
Where were you when the zero twos were kill
>Hkari's whole characterization
Only if you are a rabid shipper
What comes to mind when I think about Hikari in Tri is her trying to help Taichi and Jou with the issues they're facing.
Why don't you say that shit to my face faggot. Bitch nigga mother fucker
not to mention the part where the "hologram" picks up and holds a digimon. oh right, it must be a hard-light hologram projected by hackmon. wait, but hackmon was never shown entering the distortion, and nobody commented on a strange digimon jumping through the distortion, which means hackmon was already in ken's dark digital space before the distortion opened in the first place. but surely he still used his magic eye to project a hard-light hologram of ken that could walk out the distortion and pick up a physical digimon in the real world.
it's such a stupid theory
and on top of that, imo it's way cooler and more sinister/threatening to think that ken never lost connection with the digital world, and he's spent these 6 years practicing on how to be a competent bad guy.
part 3 is gonna give us H-kabuterimon and perfect level meicoomon, but just patamon, no seraphimion
part 4 we'll get hououmon and some gatomon, maybe an angewomon appearance, but no megadramon (and as much as i want it, definitely no ophanimon)
part 5 will give us megadramon and seraphimon, as well as a dark ultimate form for meicoomon
part 6 will give us all the ultimates (including meicoomon's good/true ultimate). i'm pretty confident there won't be any mastemon, because i just don't see meicoomon turning into ladydevimon ever. i could see an omegamon+ (think imperialdramon pm), or secondary jogresses from everyone else (vike + H-kabu, rose + houou)
anyone have a clean version of this?
did you not watch Reunion? it opened up by showing daisuke + iori + inoue getting taken out by ken
my guess is that he kidnapped and tortured all 3 of them, and then basically told daisuke that the only way to prevent him from kidnapping and torturing kari was to jogress into imperialdramon. as always, though, a digivolution powered by negative emotion is much more powerful than normal, but also a brainless brute
alphamon isn't evil, he's just driven. look at >>138741534, meicoomon is definitely going to have the super evil ultimate and jesmon is going to purify it
it really doesn't bother me much. there are some spots where i've noticed it, but i still enjoy the show even with the occasional stupid face. the digivolving sequences are top notch and that's all it's really about
that is a part of it, but also, i think with only 24 episodes, that was the only writing decision that allows them to have a well-developed antagonist.
since we're focusing so heavily on real-world character development that's not directly focused on digimon fights, there isn't really enough time to establish a new devimon/vamdemon-tier villain and give them enough screen time to really be threatening. they've already gotta deal with alphamon, hackmon, and meicoomon as mysterious and potentially evil, so having a character that the audience can see 1 time and go "ugh this dick, i know all about him and what his whole deal is" saves them a lot of screentime for shwing other stuff
damnit i knew i should've rewatched part 1 before starting part 2. i wonder how, in the short time between being attacked by alphamon and the present, ken gained so much power? you'd think he could've just teleported away from the battle with alphamon if he had been able
They're not really meant for theatrical release compared to something like the other Digimon movies. They're OVAs that also happen to get shown in theaters like all the other premium Bandai OVAs
>damnit i knew i should've rewatched part 1 before starting part 2. i wonder how, in the short time between being attacked by alphamon and the present, ken gained so much power
This is a big reason why I don't think that is actually Ken because we saw him get BTFO'ed with the other kids.
Because Digimon have never displayed telepathic powers, right?
Ken being an illusion by a powerful Digimon makes more fucking sense, than him randomly learning how to teleport and float, and the fact that he says absolutely nothing, considering that that wasn't the type of villain he was...
But whatever.... humans learning how to float around and teleport apparently makes more sense than powerful telepathic Digimon in this universe, anon.
>he's just being controlled by the villain.
is he though?
joe's panicking about how to cope with growing up while having the weight on his shoulders of being responsible for protecting others. he's relearning how to be reliable
mimi's sensitive and self-conscious as ever, and dealt with her internal conflict over acting the way others wanted her to, or staying true to herself. she's relearning how to be sincere
taichi is once again crippled by the pressure of his self-proclaimed leadership position, and terrified that he's going to fuck it up and get someone hurt or worse. he's lost his youthful recklessness, and is relearning how to be courageous
yamato is trying to find a way to help taichi deal with all these difficulties, but is unable to be there for his friend because he's feeling angry and hurt and betrayed. he's relearning what true friendship really is
even hikari, to a smaller extent, seemed unsure of herself after she was unable to get through to joe during their chat in the rain. it's been a while since she needed to use her gifts of light in order to push someone else forward and help them find themselves, but she managed to recapture it at the end.
ken got his shit kicked in by alphamon. now we haven't seen what's been going on behind the scenes, but we know that when shit went down with milleniumon, ken lost his shit, and felt that the only way for him become powerful enough to protect those he cared about was through violence and anger. it's likely those same feelings of weakness rose up again now. he's still got a lot of growing to do if he's going to relearn how to find strength rooted in kindness.
all of these follow with the prophecy - you need to cross through the darkness in order to find the light. only by first being dragged down by your flaws can you overcome them to find true strength. i'm sure the same applies to ken
>child level digimon sitting in a pocket of the digital world is able to telepathically project a human into the real world that's capable of physically interacting with real world digimon
>this makes more sense than the nation's smartest guy, who previously demonstrated himself to have amazing technical command over the digital world, redoubling his efforts to bend the digital world to his whim
whatever you say buddy
Yeah, realized that after sending
You people are dumb as fuck for believing this is the real Ken. Did you even see when he got merc'd with the other 02 kids? He's down for the count with the rest of them. If anything, this is either some sort of trick, or he's an imposter who is more than likely a Digimon, what with the teleporting and stuff.
this is a show about the kids from adventure. why would a villain go out of their way to create a grown-up-looking, redesigned-outfit-wearing hologram of a guy who the adventure kids barely knew, instead of like, making another devimon/vamdemon/apocalymon?
>child level Digimon can't display absurd power
Lucemon would like a word with you
Also it's completely impossible that the child form of a Royal Knight isn't just remaining in his child form just to conserve power and/or not draw attention to himself.
has there ever been a time in the show where a digimon voluntarily de-digivolved to conserve power/lay low?
i'd guess that for now, hackmon is just investigating/snooping around at gankoomon's behest. gankoomon doesn't really jump on board with the rest of the RK, so he's having hackmon confirm his suspicions that alphamon is behind it. hackmon's entire deal is observing battles in order to gain experience, he's just doing that. on top of that, i can't imagine they would create the child form of digi-jesus and then have him be a bad guy
I think Hackmon is just Jesmon hiding his power as well.
Because if he's taking this long to be properly introduced I don't think he's going to have enough screentime or development to go through a becoming Jesmon subplot.
well shit, alright then
this though - the guy even got in on the 15th anniversary digivice, which even meicoomon didn't
That's normal appearances but when shit hits the fan Hikari almost always have some dramatic emotional handicap going on while Mimi always becomes pro active in doing something even if she whines half the way. She's a lot braver and resourceful than her appearance and mannerisms make you think.
Read the threads. Everybody who supports the "Ken was an illusion by Hackmon" theory, believes that he did so as a way to train or test the the Digidestined for something far worse, not because he's the villain.
the "it's a test" logic is consistent with cyber sluts, wherein gankoomon trains hackmon by making the player fight him, however it seems a little... forced? like, what's the point of sending the prophecy to koushiro just to be like "ok there's no time for you guys to think about this and learn from it so i'm just gonna attack you good luck lol." it feels like cheating for someone who knows about the prophecy to just outright go and do the shit without waiting for the characters to reach that realization on their own
does anyone have a clear image of infected meicoomon from the end? it was unclear to me whether that was just like, its hair bristling up in anger/rage, or if it was an actual form change/evolution
also, why the fuck did it get subbed as Orgemon instead of Ogremon?
It has claws out and spikier fur.
I think it is a mode change of some kind. It's not different enough to be an evolution.
where are those hand claws even coming from? they're clearly separate from the regular claws/nails. could they be coming out of the hexagons on its wrists?
They're like fake nails covering its fingers.
Seems to come from just above its finger joints.
This. Mimi does her shit.
And that's why I think "Determination" will be about Hikari finally becoming as proactive as Mimi, hopefully with Jesus powers included
all after rejecting Takeru after him throwing at her another tantrum bout her depending onii-chan and not him
this is looking like such a weird form change to me. i'm going to hazard that this is something completely different from infection - leomon, ogremon, and the kuwagamons were all just white-eyed rage monsters, but had no design changes. this has no white eyes and no screaming rage, it seems much more self-aware and in control
let's not forget that reliability and sincerity are dub terms
originally, joe has the crest of sincerity, and joe is definitely sincere here (at least, at the end, when he returns to help out gomamon). joe's traits are faith, sincerity, and honesty. although he had doubts about his relationship with gomamon, he never lost faith in gomamon, and at the end, when he was sincere and honest about his feelings, and acknowledged that he and gomamon were meant for each other, his faith in gomamon redoubled, and they grew stronger than they ever had before
mimi's was originally the crest of purity, although i think the dub use of sincerity still preserves that relatively well. mimi definitely rubs people the wrong way, but she's honest about who and what she is, and never presents herself as someone who she isn't. she had doubts about being herself, but ultimately, cast those aside when she realized that being herself and pushing away some people was better than being who others wanted her to be and not staying true to herself.
this has always been the show's pattern - doubt and fear lead the characters to falter, then they push through those doubts and fears to find their strength
i usually go out of my way to use the dub term sincerity instead of the original purity because in the context of being true to yourself, both are accurate,
but saying purity usually leads to shitposting about how many dicks mimi's taken
>mimi's was originally the crest of purity, although i think the dub use of sincerity still preserves that relatively well.
I've never been a fan of using Sincerity for Mimi because that's kind of a detriment to her character (though it is in line with how she is portrayed in the dub when it felt like her entire character was being shallow).
Mimi has Purity because it's supposed to indicate innocence and truth, something Mimi is. Mimi has always been 100% honest about how she feels about things and that's gotten her in trouble a bunch of times but is overall an accurate portrayal of the kind of person Mimi is.
Game!Ken had it as bad.
>no onii-chan to look up to
>some strange older kid keeps hanging around his house
>dragged against his will into some adventure
>Romi Park doesn't voice him
>completely forgotten about
nigga scroll up, i already elaborated on this
joe's is sincerity/faith, which reliability conveys relatively well
mimi's is purity/honesty, which sincerity conveys relatively well
There was a background character with a Witchmon in Hunters, and probably a few in games and manga.
It's kind of surprising that there's never been a waifumon in the Greymon family.
i see it translated as faith much more often than sincerity, but when referring to joe's combined character traits of believing in others, being loyal, and being honest, i think that faith, reliability, and sincerity are all equally applicable and accurate
explain how the use of dub terms makes the points posed in that post any less valid
I see people using Faith a lot too but I have no idea where they got that from. At least the dictionaries I checked don't have it as a translation.
It can be faithful but on the same vein of honesty or sincerity, "faith" at least to me implies a different sentiment altogehter.
when i use faith, i use it with the same implication as "joe has faith in gomamon," but i think the use of a cross for the symbol of the crest sends mixed messages when talking about faith
I thought the scene of Mimi and Meiko in the clothes shop was relating to Mimi's struggles to express herself properly in Adventure during the Dark Masters after she witnesses all those deaths.
Most people seem to forget that this isn't the first time we've seen Taichi go through one of these hesitant episodes before. Back in Adventure, it was Sora and Koushiro trying to make him take things more seriously when they came to the conclusion they would die in the real world too if they got killed in the Digimon world. Except he wasn't really to blame back then since they had purposely left him in the dark for too long regarding his own longevity.
Intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor.
Didn't they all come back in the end though? All I remember is her wearing the team down by crying all the time and Taichi wanting everyone to get a move on because they hadn't much time left.
That's why I don't understand why it was so traumatizing for her. At least she made peace by paying tribute to them by leaving a grave behind for their fallen comrades in their memories.
>Didn't they all come back in the end though?
I'm assuming it was after they'd all left the Digital World.
>All I remember is her wearing the team down by crying all the time and Taichi wanting everyone to get a move on because they hadn't much time left.
That was what I meant.
Mimi in the few episodes between the return to the Digital World and her temporary departure of the group is not herself any more. Her exposure to all that suffering, something she had never experienced given how perfect her life was (and of course still is), broke her.
She wasn't expressing herself in the same way.
it's a series of OVAs
each "movie" is 4x 20min episodes (each ep with its own theme song and credits song)
so 6 "movies" is really 24 episodes, released in chunks of 4 at a time
In that case so were Yamato, Koushiro, Taichi and Mimi since they were training under false conditions. But why were they fighting for a chance to win one of the Four Holy Beasts as a partner?
The whole ruse was that three of the four Holy Beasts had gone berserk and the remaining one is searching for a suitable partner to help fight them. So it's not just getting a Holy Beast partner, it's saving the Digital World.
This doesn't look like a girl still coming in terms with her survivors guilt.
Tri almost killed Hikari for me. She isn't half as polite as I remember her being and now Takeru has become too much of a metrosexual for my taste. I preferred it when he had that nothing-is-going-to-phase-me-so-just-keep-smiling shtick going for him.
It's Digimon, everything is canon to everything cause of muh multiverse shit. But the 02 anime does reference the games with Milleniummon and Ryo in a flashback and Ryo in Tamers has Cyberdramon and I've heard arguments that it's whole "Muh enemy" stuff is actually referencing the fact it's Monodramon and Milleniummon's Joggress.
But It's not outright stated either way.
So movies 4 and 5 will jave the other 02 megas.
She'd recovered by then, Anon. That's over six months after the events of Adventure.
Hell, she'd recovered even before they left. Don't you remember her army?
they hold back Seraphijob in the third movie for Armadillo Teapot'smega in the final movie.
>mimi takes you into her room
>get greeted by a bombardment of stuffy toys neatly lined up on her bed like pic related
Yeah, in a interview in the May 2002 issue of V-Jump with producer Hiromi Seki, so take it with a grain of salt.
>Q: Are the Ryo who appeared in 02 and the Ryo who appears in Digimon Tamers related?
>A: They are the same person. Simply put, Ryo was flown beyond space-time as soon as he defeated Millenniumon in D-1 Tamers, and he lost his memory. And this is why he encountered Takato and the others.
Too bad they didn't ask her how Ryo's father got there, or why they were living in a different part of Japan.
The hex template is really stylish
Do you think Meiko is going to ask them how they know about Ken in the next movie?
Also that scenario with amnesiac Ryo Seki talks about is shown at the beginning of Brave Tamer, released a little later with the purpose of ending his story and bridging his story to appearance in Tamers.
Ryo wakes up in ENIAC (a proto-digital world of sorts that exists before all of them), finds Monodramon and goes on to fight Millenniumon forces through time and space. In the end Monodramon forces a jogress with Millenniumon and they revert to a digitama that would later become Ryo's Cyberdramon.
Because he plays an important role in the epilogue.
As far as I know it's not clear how much of his memory Ryou recovers. I have not played Brave Tamer and thus have only summaries and incomplete scripts.
I've seen people say he feels betrayed over the events of D-1 Tamers so if that's true he did recover some of his memories.
He also seem to recall stuff concerning Millenniumon.
While technically true, that still doesn't help to explain the blatantly obvious hairline that her son somehow inherited.
Because no one could possibly have the same hair style.
Kid doesn't have meatball hair, therefore it's not Mimi's.