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Wtff? No thread after this awesome chapter?

Fine to see Byakuya in action again, also loved his interactions with the other captains.
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>>138713932
Just got archived
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>>138713932
I too love me some sarcasm.
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Kisuke confirmed for top tier jobbing.

Final villain fags can suck it.
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>>138714463
First Byakuya humorous scene in a long, long time.
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>>138714586
There were people that still thought Candyman is the last antagonist?

Well, its okay to job against a SS member, I guess. Shunsui, Kenpachi, Mayuri, Ichigo all did it too.
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>>138714586
Anon confirmed for still not knowing what 'jobbing' means.
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>>138714686
>job
When will this meme end?
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STARRK WHEN
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>>138714707
I am new here, have mercy.
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>>138714731
He is confirmed soooo dead. His body crumbled apart.
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So anyone care to explain what the fuck was going on with His bankai. Why did it open that guys hands without doing any shit? Why did he say he have small range when he then fucked buildings and that poison sphere from miles away? Why was such a powerful guy that could match yoruichis speed killed from behind by cheetah guy?
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>>138714727
Where did it com from, why is it local to Bleacj?
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>>138713932
>Wtff?
Kill your shitty self.
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>>138714896
>Fair ability application in Bleach

ayyyy

In fact, Grimmjow shouldnt be able to pierce Askinns Blut.
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I just hope that they don't offscreen Thor.
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>>138714955
I think Kubo already forgot about Blut.
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Urahara said - I leave it to you, Kurosaki & Kuchiki.

NOT - Kurosaki and Inoue.

From now on, you are living in a World where IchiRuki is canon.
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>>138714955
but blablabla merch muh blue haired billy idol cat who has never rekt anyone of note
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>>138714907
Its not. Pretty much every combat comic or manga is being plagued by the term jobber

Jobber means ONE thing. And thats losing on purpose. No one in bleach has ever lost on purpose, besides Shunsui when he pretended to be he was taken down by Starrks Cero
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>>138715197
He rekt a bunch of women and traps.
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>>138715260
so did /b/
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>>138714955
Blut doesnt make a person invincible just harder to kill

Besides would you like if every time someone fought a quincy there would be a comment about Blut. Its completely pointless in the grand scheme of things
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>>138715237
Memes change their meaning. It was clearly widened to "losing" in general?

Btw, ehat was the purppse of Shunsui pretending? For that Shadow surprise attack?
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Rest in piece Askin. You were too good for this world.
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>>138715317
Those were a few minor cuts, whilst Senbonzakuras function is to desintegrate the enemy.

Askin, one of the strongest Nazis, got stabned through the chest by a claw.
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>>138715368
Why does Kubo constantly draw Aizens?

Also, I have the feeling he is not dead. He was too interesting as a character.
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>>138715237
>Jobber means ONE thing. And thats losing on purpose.
Pretty much no one shares your definition. And since it's not the kind of word you find in the dictionary, good luck getting people to accept it.

Jobbing is originally a pro wrestling term for a wrestler losing in order to put up the winner. So yes, you could say the wrestler is losing on purpose. Since pro-wrestling is fake and scripted, this is a moot point. The CHARACTER the wrestler plays, isn't losing on purpose. So it's perfectly fine to apply the term to other scripted stories.
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>>138713932
>wtf

Facebook needs to fuck off.
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>>138715345
You're both incorrect.

'Jobbing' or 'to job' is short hand for
'losing like it's your job'.

Generally this is done to build up stronger enemies by having strong characters lose against them. It was overused to the point now where it's lost its meaning and now we have new fags who have no idea how or why it's a meme.
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>>138715509
>Pretty much no one shares your definition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_(professional_wrestling)
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>>138713932
>Guiisee guiisee! This chapter was the superrr kewlesst! Pleaassse talk to meeee! So Ronerey!!

Shit series for kids.
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>>138715546
You oversensitive fuckers need to fuck off. "Wtf" is common language by now.
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>>138715481
It's just that his art style changed and he started to draw faces too similary.
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>>138715624
Careful with that edge, mature adult.
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>>138715615
Nice job not addressing the rest of the post while linking an article that pretty much agrees with me.

Wrestling ISN'T A REAL COMPETITION, IT'S A SCRIPTED STORY. The wrestler may "lose" on purpose, the character he plays doesn't.
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>>138715630
>is common language by now.

Yeah and I'm sure if I eat feces long enough I would get used to it too. But I'm not going to.
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>>138715630
No, it's not. Kill yourself, idiot.
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>>138715432
Grimmjow's a hollow. He has a type advantage against Quincy. Plus, he'd already used Resurrection. Plus, Askin's reiatsu level has never been stated to be that far out of the ordinary.
Plus, Grimmjow's reiatsu has been previously stated to be at the same level as that of a captain, and the captains seem to be able to hurt the quincy just fine, for the most part. Plus,
it's not as if Askin was focused on defense when he got stabbed, and according to Quilge they can only focus on either offense or defense, not both at the same time.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem all that strange for Grimmjow to stab straight through the fucker.
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>>138713932

Based chapter 666 summoning Kenpachi and Nel to the fight. Hitsuga was actually some what funny! I normally can't stand that shitty fujobait character but I got to admit his banter with Kuchiki was gold.
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>>138715709
You are right, those were some good arguments. Especially with Blut. Ot was clearly stated that it is used for either defense or offense. And Askin was clearly preparring for an all-out attack.
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>>138715671
>Liking a series of bullshit power ups with skulls, death, afterlife powers, losing control of dark powers, villains that never die
>calling anyone edge
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>>138715796
Whats annoying about Hitsugaya is not even his character, its the way he gets used.
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>>138714955
Blut is something they need to concentrate on. It's why they can't have it in both attack and defense mode at the same time. Askinn got sneak attacked, so he literally didn't have his guard up..
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If Yoruichis trap brother can hurt Askin - even before Flash Cry -, Released Grimmjow should also he able.
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What I am wondering about is why Urahara has no endurance left. Because of the Gift Ball?
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>>138716016
Just before he passed out, Askin re-tuned his poison fortress thing.
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Uraharas Bankai was okay, just the way it was put in action was a bit disappointing. He only used his special ability once or twice, whilst there would be endless possibilities for "Restructuring". Its actually an Facebook-tier power with some imagination.
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>>138716161
The while point was that he wasn't relying on his Bankai to win the fight; it, like Grimmjow (and like Ichigo, pre-time skip) are all just tools Kisuke uses to attain a result.
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>>138716235
*whole point
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>>138716235
Yeah, I was just disappointed when Askin saod "its turning into a battle of brute force". Two guys with some of the most unique, non-brute fighting styles in the manga - and what it leads to is a battle of brute force?
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>Shonen series discussions
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Seemingly, all it takes to defeat an SS member is a good Bankai.

Remember when that Superstar Sternritter absolutely thrashed two Bankai, with 20% of his power, without injuries?
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>>138716327
Once again, it was Kisuke using every tool at his disposal. By fighting Askin head on he was able to create an opening for Grimmjow. He did it exactly because it wasn't what Askin was expecting.
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>>138716327
I am more mad that the fight literally ended with "shh, nothing personell". What happened to his speed and the whole Quincies are the best reiatsu sensing guys?
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>>138716425
You do realize that 3 out of 4 Schultzstaffel were defeated by something other than a Bankai?
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>>138716490
I'd give you an answer but I don't really know what you're trying to reference here.
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>>138716354
>harem light novel series discussion
>harem visual novel discussion
>battle seinen discussion

Oh wait we just described the vast majority of series discussion on this board
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>>138716354
>self insert SoLshit image reaction
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>>138716618
They guy was clearly fast as fuck as he was able to match yoruichis speed. And Quincies use reiatsu all around them to get more strength and Ishida was always shown to be extremely great at sensing things because he was a Quincy.

So how the fuck did the guy just got blindsided by pumaguy? Did he not notice he was moving towrds him? Or did was he not fast enough to dodge?
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>>138714463
I couldn't even tell that was Byakuya. He was drawn so fucking weird.
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>>138716767
Yes, and maybe if it weren't for being distracted by Kisuke. It's not as if Grimmjow is slow, by any means.
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Daily reminder we still haven't gotten an Yoruichi x Soifon Yuri scene.
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>>138715129
For some reason it felt more like he was talking about Byakuya and not Rukia.
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>>138716967
I really dont know what I expect from asking this. I mean its just fucking retarded, its not like you guys can somehow unfuck it. Kubo decided that Kisuke gonna win by using his allies and fuck everything else, its nothing pesonell time.

I really dont understand why they had to take a whole new character and one of the most mysterious one and powercreep the fight into "this isnt even my final form" battle.
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>>138717254
If you're mad about power creep then you should have dropped this manga before Soul Society. Besides that I don't really get what there is left to complain about.
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>>138716767
>>138716967
You're talking out of your ass. Yoruichi's speed wrecked the guy at the start of their fight and again when she used her lightning-cat mode. The only time he "matched" her was after she'd already been hit with a gift-ball attack and was in a weakened state. He's not all that fast.

And Quincy manipulate Reishi, not Reiatsu. Yes, they can sense enemies at a distance, but so can every other spiritually aware being.
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Askin was never noted to be fast. That Royal Guard got him not once, but twice, without him reacting.
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>>138717413
Two different people, anon, one of them whose post doesn't contradict yours whatsoever.
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Speed tiers in Bleach are an inconsistent thing anyways.

Askin dodged a Flash Step attack by Urahara. Later, when Urahara was in Bankai, he was hit by exactly the same attack.
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>>138717495
My bad. Both of them were talking about the same subject, so I figured I'd quote him too.
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>>138717413
>>138717344
Ichigo > puma > poison guy
this is the established speed right? Yet poison guy had no trouble with ichigos speed. Now puma guy just blindside him like uts nothing, killing him in one blow. If that was possible, Ichigo could just do so from the very beginning.

>>138717413
>And Quincy manipulate Reishi, not Reiatsu
shit, those are different things?
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>>138717563
Yes. Reishi is the substance, Reiatsu the pressure of the concentrated substance.
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>>138717563
He set up a trap field for Ichigo, and Ichigo, being the dumbfuck he is, walked right into it. Has nothing to do with speed.

And yes, Reishi and Reiatsu are different things. Reishi is spirit matter. Reiatsu is spirit power, or energy.
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>>138717563
It's

Ichigo in Bankai > Grimmjow > Askin > Ichigo in shikai

And it's not like speed is a factor against poison; Grimmjow gets a pass because of resurrection magic
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>>138717670
>>138717599
Well, shit, I never noticed. The more you know.

>>138717703
>get pass
>magic
sums up why I am mad. I just feel cheated that he died to a "fast" guy punching his heart out. fucking anticlimaic.
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>>138717703
Btw, did Ichigo ever use Bankai after his power up? Was it his Shikai against that Lightning Sternritter?
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Where was it stated that Ichigo is faster than Grimmjow? They were evenly matched in their strongest forms.
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>>138717763
It's actually pretty high tier foreshadowing that's been discussed here quite a bit, so it's your loss I guess.

>>138717765
Not yet, he was using Shikai against Candice
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I just noticed how underwhelming Ichigo actually was pre-upgrade. He was beaten to a pulp by unreleased Grimmjow, whilst Shunsui took down Released Starrk with his Shikai.
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>>138717852
>pretty high tier foreshadowing
I am listening.
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>>138717812
>strongest form

At the time yes, Ichigo got a lot faster though
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>>138717903
Means he will go Bankai against Yuha Bach.

Given that Shunsuis Bankai did not kill a Sternritter, I doubt that will be enough.
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>>138717852
People just aren't really reading the chapters properly anymore, so even when stuff's properly explained, they still complain.

Whatever, I guess. I've been with this series since 2003, I'll enjoy it till the end.

>>138717905
It's not foreshadowing, but refer to >>138715709
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>>138717903
You have to consider that he was fighting with at least two known handicaps.

>>138717905
Resurrection healing the user has been a thing since the arrancar arc. The changing of the reiatsu is what we learned from Kisuke this chapter
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>>138718029
Those handicaps were? Forgot it.
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>>138718062
We know that Ukitake was using the sub shinigami badge to regulate his reiatsu.

And Yhwach had been witholding part of his power from within.
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>>138717967
This perfectly explains why he was able to punch his heart out.

>>138718029
This perfectly explains why he is all right.


But neither explains why he is so fast in the poison sphere as to get behind poison guy and kill him in one strike without poison guy reacting at all. The only explanation is "he is fast, like real fast" which is anticlimatic and I am mad about it.
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>>138718208
Grimmjow being fast as fuck has been established for over a decade now, and he's even faster in Resurrection. If you were expecting a different ending, then your own disappointment is a result of uncompromising expectations.
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>>138714463

What an Ichigo-like expression.
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>>138718303
>If you were expecting good things from bleach
>then your own disappointment is a result of uncompromising expectations.
You are right, though. I mean, fuck, I though I knew better than this.
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>>138715368
He really was a good character, I liked him.
F
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>>138718208
I don't know what kind of evidence you're looking for. Grimmjow's a fast character. Nothing of the sorts has ever been said of Askin. He entered in Resurrection.

Also -- and this is my personal speculation and nothing more -- I think the Arrancar were just meant to be the physical-type enemies whilst the Quincy are the special-attack-type, so there's that, too.
Quincy's are mentioned to have extraordinary control over Reishi. Arrancar are mentioned to have extreme raw power. Quincy don't overwhelm their opponents with strength, but rather with ability.
Arrancars generally overwhelmed their opponents by just being faster and stronger than them, save for Barragan. Resurrection was shown to improve the physical capabilities of Arrancar, whilst the
Quincy vollstandig only really affects their abilities.

Just a theory, though.
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>>138718488
>It's only good if it's exactly what I wanted, and nothing less will satisfy me

I should really know better than to reply to spoiled children.
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>>138715687
>>138715509
Not the other anon, but your logic is pathetic and makes no sense.
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>>138718825
No, I mean, it make sense. Its just so fucking anticlimactic that I wanted to vent. Out of all way to end the fight, they just say a fast guy ran behind him and punched his heart out. I am not satisfied. And I havent been for quite some time with this manga.

>>138718981
Am I really alone? Two interesting powers clash and instead of some kind of clever finale, a really fast guy runs there and kill him in one strike. You are satisfied with that? Calm me spoiled but this just isnt enough for me.
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>>138713932
nice meme
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>>138715822
>Look at me and my refined taste. I'm not a pleb because I can't into anything mainstream might like. So different from the others I am, special and better then everyone else.
How is that insecurity treating you anon?
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>>138719069
That's exactly what was clever about it, anon. If it was left to Askin vs Kisuke then Kisuke would definitely lose, but Kisuke is the master of resourcefulness and totally played Askin against his strengths. Otherwise everyone else would be complaining about what an asspull Kisuke's bankai was.
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>>138719184
You are right. It wouldnt be better with another asspull like the cat mood reiatsu change. Thanks, I am less mad now. Though I have one more question. When grimjaw got resurrected and went back inside the poison ball, why didnt he catch AIDS again?
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>>138719341
>When grimjaw got resurrected and went back inside the poison ball, why didnt he catch AIDS again?

Try reading this week's chapter again.
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>>138719055
Explain how. How can you possibly agree with that guy? He's saying that jobbing means "to lose on purpose" just because it's a pro-wrestling term. Except pro-wrestling is also fictional and scripted. The CHARACTER the wrestler is playing isn't losing on purpose. So it's used in exactly the same way we use it when we talk about shonen: a character losing to hype another for story purposes.
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>>138719069

Embrace the poetic lack of variety.

Grimmjow basically kills two Stern Ritters with a sneak attack. Mayuri basically kills two enemies with Nemu-poisoning. Shunsui's and Urahara's bankais both not as amazing as they were hyped up to be. You just have to admire Kubo for the bizarrely disappointing shit he does.
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>>138719737
>Grimmjow basically kills two Stern Ritters with a sneak attack.

Funny, in some ways he acts more like a Shinigami than a Hollow nowadays...
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>>138719853
>>138719853
eh. Grimmjow is themed after large cats like panthers or tigers. Him one-shoting an enemy with a stealth attack well suits that theme
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>>138715624
>shounen
>for kids
well hot damn, next you're going to tell me /a/ is for anime.
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>>138715813
Also, urahara's bankai ignores blut, plus he already made himself immune. Askin should by nature of his power be least concerned about using defensive blut.
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>>138716490
>meat in the boot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Cxt1pReMs
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>>138714955
That's the problem with Blut I'm afraid, It can't both attack and defend. you're either attacking or you're defending. But as we saw, although he passed, it didn't stop him much.
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