Gentlemen, I like Saber.
Gentlemen, I like Saber.
Gentlemen, I love Saber.
I like the original Saber. I like Saber Alter. I like aggressive Saber Lily. I like Saber Lion. I like Saber Nero.
I like her when she fights. I like her when she eats. I like her when she speaks. I like her when she complains . I like her when she sleeps.
Serious Saber. Shy Saber. Warrior Saber. Angry Saber. Hungry Saber. Corrupted Saber. Gao Saber. Happy Saber. Girly Saber. Male Saber.
I love every aspect of Saber that takes place on this earth.
Rider is the Patrician's taste.
Who would you pick?
Yes, they only come with that face, no backsies.
Best girl is probably Tamamo, but if we're talking who I'd want to marry... well...
I love Saber as much as he does
Perfect,the only flaw is that she gave birth to an autistic loli child.
Too bad she loves BBC, not you.
Uncute, personalityless, humorless, cup. Her only good is she gave birth to the angel that ended the war and saved her man.
HA is a sequel to F/SN involving some weird timeline/alternate universe shit that I can't explain without spoiling it. It's mostly a SoL where all the servants live in Fuyuki city and have normal lives, along with a plot about a master from the previous Holy Grail War and her servant, Avenger, who is responsible for the Holy Grail becoming corrupted. It does include Caster without her robes, as well as Rider without her dress. It has some pretty funny moments, I'd recommend it if you liked the SoL parts of F/SN.
>ended the war and saved her man
Did we watch the same movie?
It has a defenseless anus.
Her lewdness is a great nightmare.
>Tokiomi's eldest daughter has a huge glorious ass and thick thighs
>Tokiomi's youngest daughter has a huge glorious pair of tits
I want to fuck both Rin and Sakura at the same time.
Reminder that all of the following are "Fate girls" and all make great arguments for being better than many or all of the other "Fate girls."
I always liked how they never outright stated that she has a great butt, like they did with Ciel, but you can tell they KNOW.
Disgusting lolicons should be punished
Nice, they used her new coat from the anime, I wonder if it'll be used in the movie.
Sakura has the whole package, those Finn genes really came out for her. I think the only character that has a better ass would be Ciel.
Not that you aren't correct about Rin's ass and thighs. But you forgot the silky curly hair. Sakura's is more wild, but the sheen is good.
Eventually it'll slip out. Probably over a ton of booze and a drunken fuck.
Taiga is always number number one to me, even if on one else agrees.
Well, foxes are canids, so Luvia is into those.
As this guy said >>138719666, Masochist Saber Nibbles Black Cock.
Lastly, JSC (AKA Al Jazeera), stands for Jumbo Sandnigger Cock, and Saber definitely loves those.
Do you have a fetish for irrelevant characters?
I suggest you take a look at Illya's maids. Liz has better "assets" than Luvia, and Sella makes a better motherly figure than Taiga.
Aw... You can like whatever you like, man. It's just our opinion that Zecchan is the better Taiga, while you like the adult Taiga more. Nothing wrong with that. No need to be sad.
If your answer is not one of the three in pic related, then you have suffered severe brain trauma and need to seek medical help immediately.
A Kuro is fine too.
Now if only he didn't seperate the two, so they could become the two most beautiful devils in Fuyuki?
Well they became that anyway, so maybe it was destiny.
Serious question. Has there ever been a time where someone dies, becomes a hero, and gets summoned to the same time he died in? Has a heroe ever met someone they cared about after becoming a slave to the grail?
Black hair and blue eyes with actual pupils would be a major improvement on Sakura's design.
Longer hair and a better voice wouldn't hurt either.
Actually, just give me Rin with big boobs.
And maybe make the boobs smaller
>making that butt even plumper and thighs thicker
Isn't that a bit excessive?
You seriously need more ass than pic related?
Ufotable has been making her bigger and bigger in the ass department. At this pace, by the time the HF movie(s) comes out she will have a niggress-tier junk in the trunk.
Sorry for sample, that's the best version I could find.
>It's a big butt for a Japanese person
She's from an anime where japanese people can have blue eyes, orange hair, blonde hair, yellow eyes, big boobs and asses, be tall, and even get 10 or more cm taller way after reaching adulthood.
Our real world racial statistics just don't apply.
She and her sister are only going to get bigger anon, its those Finnish genes, you can't stop them. Sakura was less stacked than Saber half a year prior to FSN, and is still growing a year later.
They were made to be bountiful, its in the blood.
Her voice is fine, Shitaya does seductive quite well. She also does have pupils, its
shown in a few sprites.
Plus she gets longer hair later, but seemingly goes for a shorter hairstyle with rattail ponytail.
Funny thing about the hair, it was originally supposed to be black iirc. The eye color i don't really mind.
And heathen, its not like she has ridiculous cowtits, why take away a bountiful bosom?
He seems to be under the impression that Finnish girls are titty monsters.
The Tohsaka sisters are 1/4 Finnish because one of the Edelfelt sisters married the Tohsaka heir after the 3rd HGW.
This is the canon adult Sakura, along with her severely aged HF Normal counterpart. Deal with it and quit posting /v/ shit.
Why the fuck are there no good Saber doujins? Considering how popular she is you'd expect there to be at least one good doujin that gets her proportions right and has decent art, but nope.
I like the one where Saber sneaks a peek at Shirou and Rin fucking, then Rin catches her masturbating and fucks Shirou right in front of her, holding her hand as they cum together.
It's more of a Rin doujin overall, but Saber is cute as fuck in that one.
any other answer is varying degrees of wrong
also i'm drunk, so i'm going to fuck up everyone says she's not the best fate can offer, an that fate is better than tsukihime you little shits withut even a hair on the balls
>fate is better than tsukihime
I'll admit the art is better, and maybe there's merit to the story. But the Tsukihime Girls are every bit as attractive as their Fate counterparts, and then some.
Also enjoy the buzz. Sorry about the Hangover.
>She asks you for help with her "miniature garden", a tiny model she made in her spare time by creating a sort of pseudo-Reality Marble space little by little by diligently adding a bit of magic to it every day.
>>Protagonist: "...you sure have a lot of free time huh?"
>>Medea: "What that supposed to mean?!"
>Something's weird with the animated "dolls" than inhabit it and they are disobeying her orders, so she asks you to follow her inside so you can investigate.
>When you get there, she introduces the place as "Jason World Japan," an amusement park inhabited by animated dolls of "men who have no virtues save their face" ("Jason Hunter," "Jason Soldier," "Naked Jason") who attack lovey-dovey couples, people happy with their lives and girls under 20.
>She basically made "'NORMALFAGS REEEEEEEEEEEEEE~!': The Theme Park."
I am eating...I am eating...curry. Om nom nom, fresh, straight from the cook. It's piping hot and the steam from it burns my eyes a little, the smell is strong, and the flavor intense. "Oh Ciel, please give me some more, i'm still hungry!". I don't think i've ever come across curry as rich as this before, the flavor takes over all my senses. I can't take it anymore, I want more of this spicy deliciousness. I find the place it's coming from, its a hole, and I notice Ciel is looking the other way. The hole isn't big enough for me to use the spoon, but around it is soft tissue. I pull it open and decide to just use my tongue to scoop out the curry. I notice another area near the curry hole, dripping with something, so I taste it. The flavor is that of salty milk and coins, I quickly return to the curry to remove the taste. While eating the curry, I hear a gurgling noise...suddenly a hot gust of air billows out of the hole and the curry begins flowing at an amazing pace. The smell, the taste, the heat, it all comes pouring out of the hole with such force...soon it's all over my face and the floor, I'm slathered in it, enjoying it, loving it. I begin lapping it off the floor. My hands are covered in it, i begin rubbing it into myself. The heat is so intense that it begins to make my erect...as the curry pours out, I get closer and closer to . In the background I can hear Ciel moaning in discomfort.
Making Curry must be hard work.
I love caster very much, my love for her grew stronger each day. I want to enter 5th HGW, find her before kuzuki does, fuck her in the temple with buddha statue, marry her, leave the town and abandon the war for all i care, find a town where magic association won't notice so she can suck up the magical energy of it's residents and live there with her for the rest of my life.
Would pledge loyalty to any day.
No, during the same entry it talks about how Tokiomi fucked around before marriage and had a child.
Also Sakura is not infertile, that's a meme. The entire reason Zouken bought her was to use her to make Matou babies eventually.
What I mean is
Tokiomi had another offspring before marriage when he was sowing some seeds, this girl grew up and had a daughter, and that daughter was Extra Rin.
Extra Sakura meanwhile is just a computer program that gained a heart and became human. They're not really connected to their originals.
>Also Sakura is not infertile, that's a meme.
False, Shirou came buckets inside her several times in the VN, countless if you include the HF True epilogue, and she never got pregnant.
If Zouken designed her specifically to have babies, she should have gotten pregnant on the first attempts.
Not to mention the worms feed on the insides of women uterus, so yeah, there's a strong case for her being infertile.
Shirou and Sakura have sex four times, you don't get pregnant right away like that most of the time. No matter how much sex you have in a VN, you never get pregnent unless its a specific plot point that is important for the route itself. Its never just something shoves in at the end. Since it couldn't be a plot point, there was no reason to include it at all since it wasn't important to the route at all.
Zouken hadn't reached the point when he needed to use her as a womb yet, and if she was inseminated by Shinji or someone before that point, he would just eat the child before it developed since he doesn't want any more failure babies like Shinji
He needs to fight the right sperm donor to restart the Matou bloodline. Zouken's plan is still in the works, since he thought he still had fifty years to work.
Worms don't feed on the inside of the uterus
specifically, they excite the women and feed on her mana and juices from the inside.
You can realize the difference between a theory "I've suddenly come to this conclusion after deciding it on my own, so its 100% true and I'll spread it around as the absolute truth" and actual canon statements. There is no actual citation saying what you think.
Rin is canonically a gorilla if so.
Because she knows she's amazing.
>impying I give a shit about the other Tohsaka
If we are going to talk about animals, we all know what Sakura is.
According to Sasaki, Sakura is a snake
People always create a misnomer thinking she's a worm, when really she's just tormented by worms. Zouken is the only actual worm.
Medusa is also a snake, its the reason they get along.
Shinji is seaweed
Go read the scene again, TA isn't summoned until the next scene.
He said he didn't expect she was of the serpents kind when he was cut in half by Dark Sakura who happened to be passing by.
>They give the woman huge enough orgasms to fry her brain, and they go into her body to devour her placenta.
Pretty sure you can't have babies without placenta.
And the worms will eat the placenta back.
She's canonically infertile, deal with it.
Plus, "The lust worms will wet the woman's skin with their mucus, excite and destroy her central nerves of pleasure, and satisfy their hunger.
It must be their instincts, as the worms seem to love the woman's womb"
It's gonna be fucking hard to keep that fetus alive with those hungry worms in the uterus.
We don't know if she's fertile after years of having worms nesting in her uterus and eating the products of her reproductive system, and after the gruesome surgery Kirei performed on her, and after having AM inside of her.
If you can provide a quote that proves she somehow regained her fertility at the end of HF, I'll be happy to believe you.
After all, Sakura never had children as far as we know.
Zouken has basically Alzheimer's, and his core motivation for having Sakura became making her a Grail after the 4th Grail War ended.
Fact is there is conclusive proof that Sakura was infertile all her life, at least until the worm extraction that only happens in one route. And there's no proof whatsoever that she was able to have children after the surgery.
That's all there is. Until some new evidence is brought to the table, we've reached an impasse.
Overall, Matou Sakura is infertile, with room for speculation in the case all the worms are removed. Done.
Nope, it's you, no matter how much you try to force your headcanon. Until you find a quote explicitly stating that Sakura is infertile, you have nothing. You're pretty much ignoring the entire plot to cling to a single line which doesn't even prove your point.
Oh, you're that one fag.
> WHO is the best Fate girl?
She can be found in Fate/Extra.
They did in the one route where the question of her fertility is even relevant. Your assertion that she's infertile is inherently speculation. At most, you have a case for her possibly being infertile in Fate and UBW, which honestly doesn't matter in the least.
You literally have to be a secondary to believe this, unless you missed the entire point of HF.
>They did in the one route where the question of her fertility is even relevant
Subjective. Most people won't care about it.
>Your assertion that she's infertile is inherently speculation
That would be your assertion that she's fertile. What proof do you have that she is? not every women is even naturally fertile. And damage to the Fallopian tubes, uterus and cervix can lead to infertility too (and we know Sakura experienced plenty of abuse to her insides).
I have all the scenarios that include the worms covered, she's infertile in those as long as she keeps them.
And you continue to fail to deliver proof that she's definitely fertile in the only one you're clinging too.
As I said before, we've reached an impasse.
Until you can prove she's fertile after the worms surgery, this won't move on.
What the fuck is going on in this thread? why the fuck we're discussing if wormslut fertile or not?
>Most people won't care about it.
The default assumption would be that a female character is fertile. Therefore, since the matter of infertility is never brought up regarding her, anyone who's not a complete autist gets that she's fertile. It's such a matter of course that it doesn't even need to be proven. Stop forcing your shaky theory that relies on Zouken conveniently forgetting stuff and Sakura conveniently not getting better once her issues are gone. It's not going to become canon just because you want to believe that it is.
It's a literal autist Kotominefag who's been trying to force it recently. He's also known for adamantly claiming bullshit such as that Kotomine never lies simply because Kotomine claimed he doesn't, despite a Nasu interview outright stating that he does, as well as thinking that there is no such thing as unreliable narration or hyperbole in F/SN.
You can recognize him by how he starts calling people "secondary-kun" whenever he gets contradicted, as well as by the way he ragefully demands that people give him direct quotes for the most asininely obvious shit, even when the burden of proof is on him.
>calls people secondaries for expressing knowledge that requires a full grasp of the Heaven's Feel route and a decent reading of F/Z to confirm
Figures that a true blue Kotomine autist would latch onto the grimdark WURMZ flavor text and ignore Zouken's purpose for taking Sakura off Tokiomi's hands.
Honestly, the repeated appearance of NUH UH ONLY IN HEAVENS FEEL DO THE WORMS EVEN GET REMOVED in his arguments when Heaven's Feel is literally the topic of the discussion is all the evidence I need to take your post at face value.
It leads to a bad end.
She just wants to get noticed, and maybe get Rin so mad she does pic related.
The reason Zouken adopted her was not to restore the Matou in the way you are thinking. He didn't care if she lived after the "initiation" and was even amused that she did so, saying "oh it looks like the Tohsaka material isn't defective". She was only ever an experiment for his testing into the grail. And when he got a chance to get Iri's shards, he dashed off to get them at the end of the 4th war.
Why do you think Sakura pitied Shinji so much? The guy pretty much got obsessed over some crazy mummy giving him acknowledgement when the "heir" was just a piece of meat who Zouken uses for experiments, not even getting the actual crest, but a fake that acts like a parasite and kills you if you aren't strong enough. Shinji was just too delusional to grasp that.
As for the worms, the only time they start eating the host is if they can't provide nourishment from mana, which is why Sakura isn't more messed up and why she didn't die from this treatment, given it started when she was four years old.
So there is no solid reasoning to believe she can't have kids.
Not that guy, but worms behave differently for males and females. They do eat the males and mortally cripple them.
For women, they fuck up their nervous system and kill them by giving her orgasms non stop.
And if this >>138737995 is really from the VN, then I guess they also snack on the baby's placenta if she gets pregnant.
Rin's great but as an Englishman I am loyal to my once and future king.
>Rin's anus is defenseless, but as a Cuckfag I am loyal to watching fuck my black bull loving king.
Again, those conditions come from people who can't handle the strain, so the worms get nourishment another way. Kariya mentioned how Sakura was able to endure it better than she could because she had much better potential as a magus. Also, those symptoms imply they kill the female hosts too by brain death and essentially turning them into vegetables by ruining their physical and mental faculties, which doesn't happen to Sakura. See my next point.
Even in the VN, when Sakura is getting low on mana, what happens is she notes them fishing through her body looking for nourishment and causes her to choke from moving through her vital organs. It was in that scene where before Shinji kidnaps her. She almost faints because she can't breath. Which is reminiscent of when she says Zouken tortures her with asphyxiation during that rant she has in her fight with Rin.
If she had them doing that to her all the time, people would have noticed around her growing up.
Zouken doesn't want to kill Sakura, moron.
He literally is the worms, he can tone the rape down so they don't kill her.
Also, the VN never says the worms eat the body for nourishment, they do it for pleasure.
>Sakura has built-in auto-abortion period-cleaning mechanism
Literally the perfect waifu, you can go bare on her every single day for all her life.
Nasu really thought about every little perk.
Oi mate, watch it or you'll get hung, drawn and quartered for treason.
>Implying I'm Germanic scum
I don't think so, my family are from the west so we're probably Britons not Saxons, but it's debatable how much intermingling went on in Anglo-saxon times anyway.
Regardless, Saber is best girl.
See this part on day 9:
They are running through her body trying to find mana. She was powerful enough to handle the strain because her mana refills and she has a naturally large capacity, Kariya even says flat out that she is better than him at handling it if you want me to post that quote too.
Also read the interlude on day 3 where Zouken talks about what his plans were for her again, he doesn't care whether she dies as a result of the experiments, in fact, he plans on that happening at some point. Neither did he particularly care if she died from him using the worms before, not including poisoning her food. Not exactly the thing you do if you are trying to care for a developing body. Don't even try to give him the Alzheimer's excuse, it's common sense not to poison a girl you want kids from.
Have you seen what Zouken's worms do to people when he goes serious on them?
Zouken didn't go all out on Sakura, you'd know that if you actually read the VN instead of cherrypicking from a shitty transcript without considering the context.
Also, how does any of that change the fact that the worms don't eat flesh for nourishment but pleasure?
You said it yourself, they feed on prana.
>not having alzheimer's
spotted the secondary.
his soul degrades with every body change, since he's not actually immortal, which causes him to lose his mind and memories more and more with each body swap
Can we just stop fanwanking the Rin x Luvia meme and focus on the canon pairing instead?
All that means is that he doesn't purposefully kill her or take her body because he has other uses for her(except he tries just that at the end of HF, and said in that interlude I mentioned plans to steal her body). The worms are his familiars, we already know from Ilya magi can use their familiars to gain psuedo immortality, that conversation was made. Either way, Zouken performed many dangerous experiments without regard to how it affected her body as she mentions (choking, sensory deprivation and pain experiments, poisoning, how she referred to being able to sense people's intent to harm from being beaten so much, I could go on).
He refers to her as "meat" and "material" literally all the time. Not exactly the type that is trying to raise a girl to have healthy babies. She is a lab rat to gather data, and if she lives to have kids, welp, that is prototype number 2 to work on. Did you forget Shinji's mom was thrown to the pit?
Also the worms eat whatever, they eat Rin's vomit and feast on dead bodies in the basement. It's noted several times they use alternate methods to gain nourishment if the host can't sustain them or don't fulfill an "order" Zouken wants.
Never said he didn't have it, just that it's not an excuse to circumvent common sense, given all the planning and trolling he does, it's safe to assume he has common sense, and poisoning a girl you plan to grow to have kids. People have lost fertility for less than the shit that guy does to his family members. Why do you think Kariya said "I'm out, this shit is wack".
Sakura had better be infertile or she'd literally be the most selfish girl in the world, by actively trying to not get pregnant to her loving brother who just wanted to give her a family that would love her. This is complete proof that she is infertile because not getting pregnant would be disobeying her brother and that's something that she's not allowed to do. She also kept asking her brother to impregnate her and he only did it because he was feeling nice.
Shinji, I think you need to go to bed. I know you are delusional, but this is reaching levels where I need to call the men in pretty white coats to pick you up.
It's for your own good of course.
Her worst crime is actually making Shirou fight Saber to the death. That was the ultimate dick move.
Worst case scenario, she kills Senpai, best one, he's scarred for life because he killed his beloved servant with his own hands.
If those things were what repulsed people Kirei wouldn't be liked either.
Sure this is bait, but whatever some people actually believe this stuff:
Who cares if she isn't a virgin, it wasn't by choice, nor were those murders, given she was made into a lab experiment since she was four and that never turns out right.
And she never forces Shirou to do anything, much as it might rustle your autistic jimmies, he wants to help a person he considers family.
Actually, if you listen to what Saber says in one of the later bad ends, she says that Sakura wants him to live despite what she says, and that her orders were to bring him to her alive if possible.
You kind of missed that the two were under a curse.
>Kirei out of fucking nowhere
You're supposed to dislike Kirei, unless you're a fujoshit.
>her murders weren't by choice
Some of them were, though.
>bring him to her alive if possible
>not no mather what
>her fucking SENPAI of all people
What a cunt.
This is approaching worm-anon levels of autism.
Just post best girl and shut up.
The problem with Sakura as a waifu is that not even Sakurafags agree over her.
Some like her as she is, some like her but selectively ignore the worms or the rape, some accept her crimes, some rationalize them to ignore her responsibility, some like her with sexual experience, some are obsessed with convincing people she is a pure and untouched virgin, some like her with her new super busty design, some like her with her old flatter design, some liked when she forgave Shinji, some liked when she killed him, some don't like her but call themselves Sakurafags because they like the Extra Sakuras, etc.
And they all fight each other like autists over who has the better and "canon" idealized version of her, without realizing most of them just don't like Sakura, they are merely inserting carefully selected desirable personality traits in a design they find attractive.
And we all pay for this mess by having to watch perfectly nice threads getting flooded with walls of text about how many people she killed or how many times she was fucked.
TL;DR: Sakurafags need to get their shit together and start loving Sakura instead of reshaping her character over and over to meet their standards.
My dick won't be able to handle too many Aoko clones
>Cu Chulainn experienced the friendship of her thighs when he was like 14
rin lovers love her anus, they love her ZR, twintails, boobs, bodysuits, boots or school flats, baseball shorts or no, adult rin, loli rin, and even SD rin phantasm rin and lesbot rin who's in love with luvia, they love her tsun and they love her dere, they love her inability to operate technology but most of all they love rin
>E-rank luck in death
>S-rank luck in life
>every fate thread
>"rin pleases old men!"
>"saber cucks for niggers!"
>"sakura is pure!"
what the fuck happened?
Mein goddamn negro.
the saber one is just memers trying to force shit and newfags not realising it's cancer so they repeatedly shitpost it now because they're mostly "LOL ITS 4CHAN" /b/ crossboarders
It's like those people saying that nasu's sex scenes are terrible, not realising that the translations fucked everything up, and those metaphors are not 100% accurate, nor are they culturally relevant.
That would be like complaining that a brittish writer uses brittish idioms and not american ones.
>The problem with Sakura as a waifu is that not even Sakurafags agree over her.
Dude, that happens with any character.
Some Rin fans like Sakura, Some Sakura fans like Rin, and vice versa. Some Rin fans don't care for the Luddite memes, some argue she isn't a tsundere. Though we don't get much character analysis about her either way. Same for Saber really, it's a shame that most of it devolves into whether she was a good king or not and not about her as a person.
Some Saber fans are absolutely loony about how they express their love for her, and don't recognize several flaws she has, including a semi disassociate personality. Something Iskandar admonished her about with her martydom.
Sakura eh, I feel some people overblow their analysis of her and make her out to be this complete psychotic sociopath despite context showing otherwise (these people forget the many interactions in HF where she tried to patch things up with Rin), in the name of "accepting all of her", but then they get ousted as being yandere fetishists.
Or on the other side, some try to describe her as perfectly clean,and mentally healthy when she isn't. They don't accept she has bitterness to work through and is overly self-conscious.
I am of the middle sort that disagrees with the overly negative side, but doesn't agree with the overly positive side. She has issues (but who doesn't in this game) and those caused her to make grave mistakes she will dwell on her whole life, but she is also a thoughtful, well meaning person who is stronger than she looks, or she would be a babbling catatonic mess huddled in a corner of the Matou basement making voodoo dolls of her former family or something.
It's debateble, but the last part where she is talking with Shirou before being RB'd pretty much cemented that almost none of them save Zouken's was by choice. It was even implied Sakura and Saber planned to take out AM somehow.
Nope, it's true. You might be too new to know the conversations that were had in the dark ages before Hollow was even a thing, but they happened. Not so much these days though, but I do hear a few who say she isn't any archetype vs. those who argue that she is a good example of what a tsundere used to mean.
I was of the latter. There is tsun, but the dere overpowers it often. Like a girl who tries to be the big sister to everyone but is too clumsy for it.
I also don't think Sakura is a yandere either, she behaves too calmly and rationally outside of very specific certain situations to fit it. And that dandere or hajidere or whatever it is doesn't fit either, since she is actually quite honest to Shirou about her feelings. I would say she fits the kuudere option more given how she is when the chipper kouhai mask falls off. Depressed, fatalistic, and somewhat mopey, but still stubbornly earnest at times.
>some argue she isn't a tsundere
You didn't even need the rest of that colossal wall of text to have a succesful bait after that line.
You're forcing conflicts into fandoms that almost don't have them. The vast majority of Rinfags and Saberfags don't have polarized opinions on their waifus and like them as a whole, regardless of the flaws.
Arguing over Rin's archetype is (which happens very scarcely), is a minor thing compared to arguing for entire threads about a character's complete arc and development, her motivations, the canonicity of the events that happend in her past, her morality, etc.
Sakurafags are massively divided, it's not even remotely comparable to what happens with Saberfags and Rinfags.
With Sakura you see radically different opinions among fans, and some cases of complete delusion, like that guy that says Fate/Zero is not canon because he can't deal with the fact that it shows loli Sakura being thrown into the worm pit.
You know it does. The only reason there is any doubt about rin is because there is no competition. None of the other girls come close.
It's like how you can only know you exist, anything more is conjecture. You can only know rin is the best because no other girls compare. I mean what did we think was the tallest mountain before we found everest?
does that average out to just perfect? How much of a gap exists between almost perfect and perfect, and is that gap as wide as the one between perfect and perfectest?
Is there a level beyond perfectest
and how much of it is occupied by Saybrr?
>With Sakura you see radically different opinions among fans, and some cases of complete delusion, like that guy that says Fate/Zero is not canon because he can't deal with the fact that it shows loli Sakura being thrown into the worm pit.
I am pretty sure that guy isn't even a fan, for all that I am being called a baiter, that guy fits the profile. You would have to be clinically retarded to make that type of argument.
As for the other points, as I said, we hardly talk about Rin or Saber's flaws or do anything regarding meaningful character analysis, so of course the opinions are largely the same (everything is mostly waifu praise).
I don't disagree that Sakura is polarizing, but that makes for good dialogue (sometimes), she isn't an idealized character, so differing opinions will come.
However the conversation was about whether fans feel the same way about a character or if they like other characters. You implied that Saber and Rin don't have differing opinions among fans, which is wrong. There are guys who dislike regular Saber and like Alter for instance, that isn't new. Or the ones that prefer Saber to be the badass king all the time, while others have a different opinion. That isn't forcing a conflict, you SHOULD have your own reasoning, it would be boring conversation otherwise.
Please. He asked how much of Saybrr occupies beyond perfectest, and it's obvious that no fake can rival the real thing.
SEIBAAAAHHH gets a spot somewhere right of centre, reserved for conservative politicians who have good intentions to whom rin is indifferent on matters other than sex.
Also I think the average there would be most exponential appeal. You just can't quantify how perfect rin is with a definition.
>You would have to be clinically retarded to make that type of argument.
NOW THIS IS POD RACING.
>I'm not baiting
>I just genuinely don't get that he was having a dig at these threads
>I also don't understand that I did the exact same thing or that i overanalyse almost everything
>I genuinely think that this discussion yields merit
>Waifu wars are real!
nope. not buying it. nobody is actually like this who isn't mentally damaged
I never said anything about waifu wars. I was saying that it's healthy in discussions to have differing opinions and arguing that does happen in more cases than with Sakura.
Are you sure you aren't over analyzing what I am saying?
You made everyone's arguments for them, and all you ended up saying was "People discuss waifus like they're serious about it."
I don't get why you're continuing, or what you actually want out of this.
>I am pretty sure that guy isn't even a fan
Have you even seen him? he will literally argue for 10 hours straight with posts that reach the character limit every single time. That's not baiting, that's being fanaticized.
Bait is short, impersonal and grabs a lot of atention effortlessly. If you cringe so hard that you spend a whole day replying to random people that say "lol wormslut is not a virgin, deal with it faggot", you're not the baiter, you're the prey.
Pretty sure that's just a strawman made up by some guy who got triggered by people bringing up that she didn't get raped in Realta Nua. Just look at the name "Worm anon". It speaks volumes about the guy who came up with it.
Oh God, if that's true then he's exponentially more retarded for being triggered so bad by a mere nickname.
He became a meme out of pure butthurt for being called worm-anon? that's fucking legendary (and sad).
At this pace Worm Anon will end up developing his own Reality Marble. A world were Sakura is a virgin, worms don't exist and RN is the only canon Nasu work. Can you imagine it?
I want newfags to leave.
Then leave, newfag.
Worm-anon has already embraced his identity.
He became our hero in the shadows, redirecting all the Sakura hate towards himself and leaving us able to love Sakura freely.
>worms don't exist and RN is the only canon Nasu work
>This character was penetrated by countless penis-shaped orgasm-inducing worms in this porn game
>N-no, in the family friendly version of the game the worms don't look like penises, so it didn't count!
>Deep shit right there
Hate to disappoint you, but heroic spirits exist outside of time.
If future Worm Anon had become a servant he would have already saved Sakura from the Matous and we would have read a different Zero LN and SN VN altogether. Probably with Matou Rin and Tohsaka Sakura.
RIP Worm Anon.
We'll soon see if your efforts at least gave us a wormless HF movie.
Eh, all Euros east of UK and West of Germany are Gypsies to me
that's IF he get summoned to the 4th grail war and IF we happen to occupy the same continuity where he saved Sakura. Its a similar case to Shirou and the last ending of RN
The way I see it, we just have to wait for one of the continuity's Rin to fuck about with Zalretch and pull a Hollow Ataraxia on us and we get merged into a timeline where Sakura isn't walked home gently every night by worms and Shinji
Tohsaka's anus does need defense.
>I hope he makes a contract with the World, gets summoned in the 4th HGW and finally manages to rewrite history and save Sakura from the worms.
Does this sound like a Sakura hater to you?
Sabers great but as an Irishman I am loyal to my my queen
Except Scathach is scottish, but nice try.
Place of origin means where her legend originates from. It's true that she's from Irish mythology but:
>She is a legendary Scottish warrior woman and martial arts teacher
Double nice try.