Gintama Thread

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Kouka

>>138693515
STRONG YATO GENES

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Here we go

Shoyo-sensei!

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>>138693515

Kinda mad that it's just the teacher but he's eeeeviiiil.

The episode where it revealed Gintoki killed him was so impactful and well, now fuck all that I guess.

>>138694325
so the fight scene good or not?

I don't understand HS's schedule anymore.
Osomatsu's subs were hour early on Monday and now it shows Gintama's are half an hour late.

>>138694530
Gotta be the Gorilla's biggest mistake.

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>>138693515
Why did Gorilla suddenly introduce best girl out of nowhere so late in the game? It's kind of unfair to the other girls.

Will it be good again?

>teacher is still alive and a vililan now
what is this bullshit? shit tier writing desu

>>138695778
>>138695808
I have been waiting for these comments for so long.
Please say more.

>>138695808
Sucks that you won't be getting any answers for at least a full year.

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More yato backstory in 580

Subs when ?

>>138696159
She finally calmed down Umibouzu's Orochi

>>138694530
It's one of the worst reveals in Shonen. Up there with Obito. It's legitimately that bad. Serious Gintama is shit.

Still no subs?

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S-so, next week is the last episode? Fuck ;_;
How about Draw Your Favorite Scene then?

>>138696545
Let's wait for when the episode is out, watch it. "discuss" and then let's do whatever.
Good idea though.

>>138696545
No

2 episodes more

Subs

http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=794223

>>138696716
Fuck HS

>>138696716
Thanks m8

Hey guys remember Madao and Kyubei?

Neither does Sorachi!

>>138696764
There's just no place for them at all in these recent arcs.

>>138693515
MOMMY

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Where did everything go so wrong?

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The classic Gintama face

>>138696716
>100mb
wow

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That OST

>>138696913
Nice

the utsuro ost got me so hard
neat episode overall

>>138697174
does anyone have it?

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Next week.

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And next week

More suffering

>>138697353
The suffering never ends

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The animation and choreography was godly during this fight.

>>138697461
I don't like how there's always these bright flashes and stuff making it look like they have superpowers.
Gorilla always draws good fights though.

>>138697483
Utsuro does have superpowers though.
Altana
He is basically DIO.

>>138697483
To be fair Utsuro has superpowers

>>138697523
>>138697525
I know. But it happens in all the fights.

>>138697551
Oh yeah, the flashes from the swords are annoying

Why does Gintama always try to do these serious arcs? For a show that likes to make fun of all other shows doing the exact same thing it seems kind of hypocritical tbqh. They should just stick to the comedy stuff, this is cringe worthy at times

Where is HS ?
Why do they haven't released 314 yet?
Did they get DMCA'd ?

>>138697906
Go watch something else.

>>138697906
Gintama was always about the contrast.

Comedy and seriousness.

The story and the characters

>>138697951
This one >>138696716 and http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=794235 are good enough

>>138698002
>>138698030
Why do you even reply to him ? Is this your first Gintama thread? He says the excact same things every week. Just ingore and hide him.

>>138698159
Actually this is my first time in these threads in a long while. Glad to know I'm not the only one who feels this way

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>>138694530
>>138695558
>>138696256
If you think about in a meta way, then of course you're going to have a tendency towards a critical opinion of it, but it only makes his 'death' at Gintoki's hands more prevalent with respect to what is going through Gin's head.

We also don't know everything behind Utsuro and probably won't until the end of the manga.

Tobi was kind of cheap and was kind of 'so obvious it couldn't be true'. The fact that he called himself Madara, only for the real Madara to be in another castle felt shoehorned in, even if Madara himself was great.

Don't forget that the 'Dragon's vein' was a big deal at the start of the series, especially how it's highly concentrated in Edo, and an untapped resource on earth. If it wasn't for that the Amanto would have never came to earth, and no Gintama. Utsuro is the first instance of it in a person and Kouga is the second. The story is coming full circle.

>>138695702
Too bad she's dead.

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Started watching Gintama a week ago, now on episode 144, will it continue forever? I love it.

>>138699092
Only until episode 300.Then it ends forever.

>>138699000
>implying

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>>138699177

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>>138699092
Just enjoy the ride

>>138698634
>dragons vein
no one knows about that because I'm pretty sure that energy thing was ignored by the anime and half or majority of gintamafags started from the anime and not the manga.

>>138699870
It was in the anime too.

>>138699870
It's in the anime anon.

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>>138700007
>>138700026
Mind 'in the anime'

>>138699870
>>138700007
>>138700026

It was mentioned in the anime, but they cut the scene that showed the Tendoshu discussing it in the middle of the Sadaharu story, making it seem like an irrelevant plot point for that one arc, rather than foreshadowing.

>>138700062
It was still mentioned enough for you to know what it is and for it to be foreshadowing. It seems like you're just trying to find faults because you don't like it.

>>138696811
Kyubei could be relevant in serious stories. She just isn't.

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>>138700132
Shitbei worst girl.

>>138700132
Yes, but there's no place for her in these arcs. Just because Otae's there doesn't mean Kyubei has to be there to protect her.
Kyubei's family is allied with the government. There's no reason to include her just because she's friends with the other characters.

>>138700062
Considering that I started with the anime and didn't start regularly reading the manga until the SA arc and knew about it even then, I would say they mentioned it plenty for an anime watcher to know.

The fact they don't make a neon sign saying "This is important", but allude to it is a sign that gorilla doesn't insult the intelligence of his readers/viewers except for when he does it directly.

The whole premise of the contrast of comedy and tragedy making both have more impact relies on and helps to ensure people care enough to pay attention

>>138694530
>>138695558

But the teacher wasn't evil, the evil one is Utsuro. Gin-san already killed his sensei. I don't know, I kinda like this overused cliché here.

>>138700238
>Kyubei's family is allied with the government.
And these arcs involve the government, like the shogun getting assassinated in the last story and now the new shogun and the conspiracies around it. She easily could be involved just due to "family with direct ties to the shogunate and emperor" rather than her relation with Otae.

Really, the actual reason she's excluded from these arcs is because she's based on someone from the beginning of the Edo era, so she has no place in the end of the Edo period, AND her family historically, at that point, had ties to the emperor, someone that Gintama clearly doesn't want to touch, aside from mentioning a few times, so giving her the general role of her family also doesn't work.

So, her role would need to be pretty much made up, and she isn't popular or important enough to get something like that.

>>138700619
>someone that Gintama clearly doesn't want to touch
I can't remember any manga or anime that deals with the Emperor. Shogun, yes, but the big boss?

Can someone explain the whole utsuro thing again?
Does he have that multiple personality thingy?
I honestly forgot about all of this since I became a wage slave.
Pls help I don't want to re read all of it

>>138700692
I thought that the Shogun was above the emperor in hierocracy.

>>138700699
He's basically a time lord in mind only - every time he dies, his body brings forth a different personality with the exact same looks. Shouyo was an anomaly out of the dozen unmentioned antagonistic personalities Utsuro's had so far.

>>138700699
We are not sure yet, anon. To me, it doesn't look like a split personality disorder (like Reiner from SNK if you had read it), but mostly an internal fight between ideals. Immortality can turn you into little edgemaster.

>>138700825
But Utsuro does have Shouyo memories.And I believe he has all of his previous years memories too.

>>138700866
Different personalities, same body, shared memories. The way Utsuro made it sound, he'd met and trained Oboro on a different personality, before his Shouyo self came to exist.

At least that's how I understood it or it could be that Kewl fucked up the translation, which wouldn't be unheard of

>>138693512
lulz xD

>>138700751
Not really, but is true the Emperor was just a puppet in many cases. But I am assuming, in Gintama, ShigeShige is going to be the last shogun, and technically, the Emperor should play some role iwhen the shogunate is finally abolished. Also, the Emperor was the one related to the heavens and all the clergy stuff.

>>138698634
I guess it's just a bit jarring to see after Gorilla pretty much moved away from most of the Amanto stuff a pretty long time ago. It might not have been bad writing but I think he could've thought of a better way to bring sensei's disciples together than this.

But I don't really care that much, I've grown past it. Current manga arc is pretty funny as well.

>>138700989
I think it was Shouyo who trained Oboro. As mentioned above maybe that is the reason why Oboro let the 3 students live, probably to repay Shouyo saving his life when he was a kid and in a near death state.

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>All this Kamui backstory.
Excellent chapter.

>>138701597
Shit, it's out already?! That's way early

>>138701651
This week Jump comes out on Saturday instead of Monday, so spoilers are also out earlier.

>>138700825
>new personality

Maybe he has to be decapitated for it to happen.

>>138701597
So, why were they being bullied?

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Teenager Abuto is hot.

>>138701336
No, if that were the case Oboro definitely would've tried to break Shouyo out. After Utsuro saved him, Oboro swore he'd serve Utsuro for the rest of his life. Shoyo couldn't have been that incarnation he swore that to.

>>138697052
Seriously fucking this. Best ost in years. Already rivals the 4 Devas theme

Subs out!

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>>138702093
Why not? it seems to be plausible based on this page. Utsuro appears suspicious of Oboro's loyalty.
He also doesn't seem like the type who'd save a dying child, unlike Shouyo.

>>138702527
>Even if that promise was made not with me, but with a different me?
There the one who Oboro promised is Shouyo not Utsuro.
That's why he kept them alive after Gin killed Shouyo.

So, what's going on with Kagura's mom? (I think her name is Kouka?) Is she related to the Altana thing? How she got to die if Utsuro is making a big ruckus about this?

>>138703012
Why are you even asking this? It's obvious you'll find out soon if you keep reading the manga.

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>mfw

>>138697217
He missed. He missed the glasses, the only vital point on Shinpachi. What a fag

Why did the anime skip the Tsukyo love potion arc? Are they Gorilla-womanfags?

>>138704805
This episode had everything

Even Yamero! and Nigero!

Is it gay if I only bought Zura merc just because he is too underated?.
I love Zura episode, I fucking love Zura, he is hilarious.
But If you compare him to popular character in merchandise, like Gintoki, Toshi, Sougo, Takasugi, and Kamui, it's understandable if he the least purchased character.
But, still.

>>138705407
Katsurafags have their moment in the next arc.

That's something

>>138700751
The emperor is higher in the hierarchy, but has no real political power at that point. And the reason why the emperor won't appear has to do with how revered they are.

>>138703012
It's about the Altana I think, yeah.

Correct me, anon,

Bakufu is government, the leader is Shogun

Naraku is somekind of government secret agent or assassin, the leader is Utsuro

Mimawarigumi is special task police, the task is to protect the government, the leader is Isaburo

Shinsengumi is special task police, the task is counter-terrorist, the leader is Gorilla

>>138706355
Then you have all the Jouishishi factions

>>138706355
The leader of Naraku is Oboro.
Utsuro was the ex-leader of Naraku.
Utsuro is the leader of the Tendoshou.

>>138701597
shota Kamui a cute.

>>138706355
isnt matsudaira the shinsengumis leader?

>>138707765
Matsudaira was the whole police force leader.
Both the Shishengumi and the Miwaragumi.
Then Isaburo took his place.

>>138705407
Why is Zura unpopular? He is the best character in the series.
I think he balances being a retard gag character and being a serious character quite well.

>>138705204
It's gonna be a dvd exclusive

>>138708157
It's not unpopular.
It's only that other male characters are more fujo friendly

>>138708272
Fujos have shit taste, Zura would make a great top, bottom or even a trap.

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>>138708157
Zura is hilarious and even though his VA had a much deeper voice than I'd pictured, he really nails it.

>>138709269
Speaking of VA's, after watching Osomatsu-san I'm convinced that Sougo's VA is one of the most underrated in the business.

>>138709854
>Suzuken
>underrated
the dude just won a seiyuu award for SHEEEEEH

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>>138709978

>>138697189

Here.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLwhhprTdWbG7Oo4qd_ox_wEfcPgJCSb_X&params=OAFIAVgD&v=XBtvZvvAUco&mode=NORMAL

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>this whole episode
what the fuck did I just watch ?
Also
>mfw utsur ost kicks in
When the fuck are they going to release new gintama's OST ? Every arc has a fucking hype one

>>138711095
It's literally above your post

>>138711286
I'm tired, sorry
Thanks

>>138710915
What about the OST that plays when Kagura stops Utsuro's sword at the beginning of the fight ?

So with two episodes left to go, do you think they can wrap up the arc with next week's episode? I really want to have the last episode be a filler gag episode like when the first ever Gintama series ended.

>>138711834
They will finish the arc in two episodes.
Also Gintama will return probably this fall and it will either have a new season or it will be enchousen.

>>138711418
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=789933
FLAC version if anyone cares.

>>138711834
>they end it with a madao episode
I wouldn't be more happy

>>138711894
Is a new season confirmed? Or are you just guessing?
I'm pretty sure they'll animate the rest of the manga sooner or later, but I haven't heard of any confirmation that they'll air new episodes this year.

>>138712153
Just a random episode with maybe some character we haven't seen in a while would be great. Set at Yorozuya, and random characters come calling and then at the end they all have a little bow and say "Gintama will be back!" would be absolutely great.

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>>138712349
They showed the best scene of the manga right now animated, kinda.
This is preety much a confirmation that they will adapt the whole thing soon.
Fall is just my speculation.

Why does Utsuro have a nazi sword ?

>>138712621
Because he is a REAL Shinigami.

>>138712621
Because he hates jews.

>>138712621
He's the main villain, so he's obviously a reference to Hitler

Will Shinpachi ever beat a strong enemy? His adult version was pretty strong,but right now he's always outclassed by Gin and Kagura. I feel bad for him, even though he managed to beat Pirako and Yato soldiers.

>>138712621
The Jews fear the Samurai.

>>138713018
Just a reminder that he fought against yato soldiers and tendoshu soldiers and is STILL not dead

>>138712541
Wait, where is that pic from?

Kagura screaming Gin chan when she caught blade, Rie just fucking nailed it.

>>138713235
That shows that he's pretty strong, but never gets to fight named enemies/bosses. I just want him to get a little glory in battle.

>>138712413
That's probably what the Love Potion OVAs are gonna be like.

>>138713407
Isn't she like 5000 years old by now? I find it funny she is still voicing a noisy brat like Kagura.

>>138713471
Nothing wrong with that, she's uphelding the long standing Japanese tradition of grannies voicing children.

>>138713471
She still re-recorded some lines for the remake of Yakuza 1 this year, and Haruka, the character she plays is 10.

>>138713417
The problem is that the only named opponents Shinpachi could fight at this point are all out of his league. I guess you could use some of the survivors captains of the Harusame( I think there are still 3 or 4 alive, not sure) or Abuto, but I don't see it happening

>>138712621
Gintama actually happened during WW2, Nazi and Japan was in the same Axis so they helped each other

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>open tumblr to locate a chinese translation for this chapter
>someone complains about the previous chapter being about Umibozu "pickup artisting" Kouka
>mfw

>>138714303
So did Kamui become an edgelord because he was bullied?

What's the difference between Naraku and Tendoshu ?

>>138714350
He blames baldy for killing Mami, her life was tied to that planet and once she was taken away she started to die.

>>138714461
Naraku are the bodyguards to the Tendoshu

>>138714517
And Tendoshu are the "big bad illoominazi" controlling everything, is that right ?

>>138714461
The Naraku are just assasins working for the Tendoshu.
The Tendoshu are like the Sith in some way. They rule the universe.

>>138714461
Naraku is a secret organization of assassins that work for Tendoshu, who are the real political leader of Gintama's world. Utsuro is in charge of both

>>138714562
I never watched star wars

whats gintama about

>>138714598
Sexualizing Kagura.

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>>138714598

How does Utsuro compare in the greater scheme of things considering that Gintoki managed to hold his own for a while before hesitation kicked in while he got royally stomped by a Hosen well past his prime.

>>138714598
Gender equality and progressiveness

>>138714680
Utsuro was going ez on him, Gintoki is just his own personal toy

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>>138714624
You are behind the times.
Kagura is nothing now compared to her mother.

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>>138714598
It was about the fall of a man and his struggle to live his life, but now it's just filler shonen shit with some samurais and stuff

>>138714769
Old and busted.
Kagura still a best.

>>138714680
Rewatch the episode: Gintoki only managed to remove the mask from Utsuro when fighting alone and didn't really hit him until his friends helped. Also Utsuro wasn't serious

>>138714848
I know but even alone, he wasn't completely outmatched unlike vs Hosen who effectively beat him in 3-4 attacks (I know Gin got the sneak attack off after but that was just overconfidence from Hosen who then ko'ed Gin straight afterwards).

Makes sense that Utsuro was holding back though as he did seem to be taunting Gintoki the whole time.

>>138714576
Isn't Utsuro is only a member of tendoshuu?

>>138715379
Utsuro is the strongest Tendoshuu

>>138697260
That was fucking scary

I know it was foreshadowed, and I know the explanation given later in the manga makes sense, but I still can't help but feel that Utsuro is kind of cliche. The whole 'teacher is the last villain' thing is a trope that's been done to death already

>>138712621
>>138712725
>>138712892
>>138712994
>>138713093
It's a sauvastika you dumb fucks.

>>138715747
Examples?

>>138715747
>I know it was foreshadowed
Where? I haven't read the manga, so this came completely out of left field for me.

>>138715747
Indeed it is. However I think it's something the Gorilla planned years ago( it's pretty clear that the events from Shogun Assassination arc to the final arc were ready to be used whenever he felt like ending the manga) and he didn't want to change it, even if there were better options.
I would have liked more if Utsuro was his own character, but I didn't disliked so far but I also like villans being smug and getting away with their keikaku, so my opinion is biased

So when is Okita x Kagura happening? I can't handle all this sexual tension.

>>138715748
It's not a sauvastika, it's a manji. And I doubt anyone who replied to him were actually serious

>>138716340
Okita x Nobume is OTP though

>>138716414
I can dig that too.

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what a boss

>>138716733
He lifts.

>>138716871
Didn't skip leg day either by the looks of it.

>>138714350
> bullies
No he could wreck them in seconds as he showed at the beginning of the chapter. Only reason he wasn't fighting back later is cause he promised his mother.

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Did anyone else think that this was a stupid stylistic choice? The moment I saw this face I was reminded of the one he made for laughs in the scandal arc, couldn't take this scene seriously at all.

>>138715975
I'm not too sure about Utsuro himself, but the reason for his immortality was mentioned as early as chapter 72

>>138717768
That's actually how Gorilla drew it in the manga (minus the background flashbacks)

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>>138717768
Yeah, it looked just like his shocked gag face. Speaking of stupid stylistic choices, I'm not sure how to feel about Utsuro's rainbow attacks

>>138693515
>Yeah, she's the daughter of one of the strongest clans in the universe and her father is one of the strongest ever
>Oh wait, her mother is not only best girl, but very capable on her own.
>She also also has super energy stored inside her
Kagura confirmed for Jinchuuriku? Seriously, the paralells are just way to strong for this one.

>>138718892
Gintama is full of these faces, so it's a bit hard to make anything new I guess. At least they didn't draw any blood veins.

But yeah, Utsuro going rainbow is overdoing it a bit. Is it cause he has his super powers and every attack is empowered with it? If so, couldn't they've made it a bit more subtle, considering we didn't even see anything of the likes in the manga.

literally binge watched the entire series for the first time this past month now I'm at episode 308

>>138721159
Congratulations. You have no life.

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>>138721159
tfw you'll never watch Gintama for the first time again

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>>138721788
>those glorious times when you still had 200+ new episodes to watch
>could watch as much Gintama as you liked
>could look forward to new OPs and EDs
>now I am a jaded fuck waiting for new eps every wednesday

>>138712541
I demand source for this. This too early

>>138693515

Holy shit.

Confirmed Kagura will be this hot?

>>138708157

Zura is probably my favorite character next to Kagura. He never fails to get a laugh out of me

He's also a pretty hot crossdresser. No homo

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>>138723810
It was already confirmed in the movie that she will somehow resemble the mom.

>>138723756
That looks like a photo from the Haru Matsuri

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>>138723964

Aaaaaah I want her to look down on me with disdain while I lick her feet.

>>138693515
Holy shit, why is she so fucking pretty?

>She DED
New Best Girl doesn't deserve this shit

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>you'll never enjoy one of these events live

>>138712541
1. I doubt the fall. You're looking at next year or so.
2. Would have to wait a lot longer since the gorilla has his manga entering the final arc.

>>138712621
It's his bankai

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I wish somebody translated the Sorachi notes from the tanks. The tumblr doing translations seems to be dead now.

>>138714782
the real protag

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>Sword next to neck.
>Raises arms above head then strikes down.

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>>138717768
Whoever is in charge of Gintama° art direction has been over relying on realistic faces for reaction shots unlike before where you would get gems like this.

>>138721788
>>138721898

I miss those times.

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Pretty damn good fight