So is this just supposed to be nothing but side stories? Is it even really necessary to watch this? Because a lot the episodes are kinda boring and inconsequential. Oh well. At least I was able to fap to Hanekawa in a two-piece.
How is she not being drugged and netorared by alphas ??
Hanekawa was chosen as one of the top 10 waifus you would have as your waifu.
I'd assume not a lot of people would be happy with NTR shit.
Kaiki was compelled not to run from her even when he mentally wanted to, because he was compelled to think it was cowardly.
Guys like that probably remember some girl they fancied or their mothers and spill their spaghetti, eventually just helping her to the next town and wondering why they have lost the urge to bang her.
Nothing is necessary, but its interesting nonetheless if you want to follow the series.
Think of it like this. You normally have peanut butter and jam one on each slice of bread. Now you add an extra slice of bread in the middle and apply light peanutbutter and jam on both sides of the new slice.
It becomes more filling, some might enjoy that, others who are on diet because they're fat might not want to.
>It becomes more filling, some might enjoy that, others who are on diet because they're fat might not want to.
Depends on whether that Peanut butter and jam is monkey or not.
He would be more alpha than the dude bros who just shag moeblobs you see in most doujins though.
If he falls, a girl who smiled after getting her stomach cut open probably isn't gonna be taken in by some Guido on the beach.
I like to think she's just on the bus every time Araragi calls her and imagines she's at the beach or in a hot spring.
Not on the first round/night.
But I definitely can't see any problem in Curly taming her pussy with some prep time.
You just have to create a situation where letting you fuck her and cum inside is the moral and beautiful thing to do.
Well, you have to remember that each Monogatari story is told by an unreliable narrator.
Nadeko is without a doubt the MOST unreliable, so she could have spun what Tsukihi was saying to her in a negative way when in reality what Tsukihi was saying probably wasn't bad at all.
>when in reality what Tsukihi was saying probably wasn't bad at all.
If it were two men, I'd believe you but women are known and pride themselves on double talk. The bakemonogatari series is specially filled to the brim with double talk, double action, self lies and hypocrisy, but that's what made it good.
>You just have to create a situation where letting you fuck her and cum inside is the moral and beautiful thing to do.
Nice try. She operates on her own feelings rather than robotically going off what is right now, he'd be passed over in less time than it takes her to order her next drink.
Nah bro, she is just the type that you are gonna have to be sincere with. No hit it and quit flings unless you are considering being a barbarian and using ruffies. Which then you might be visited by another type of kitty while the other is out. And it won't be your semen that get drained.
Nadeko doesn't spin it negatively. Nadeko actually thinks Tsukihi made sense (although that was expressed through Kuchinawa-san). It's just dumb viewers who take it negatively and the anime leaving stuff out.
True that. Not to mention Tsukihi is known for being manipulative, selfish, and jealous of any girl that gets close to Araragi.
She singlehandedly and willfully sabotaged any chance of Araragi and Hanekawa forming a romantic relationship due to her intense brother complex.
If you only care about the main main plots, you can skip it, but if you care about every little detail about how the characters interact with Araragi, then it's worth the watch. Plus, every episode is only like 13 minutes and they all have fantastic fanservice
>She singlehandedly and willfully sabotaged any chance of Araragi and Hanekawa forming a romantic relationship due to her intense brother complex
The irony was that this was completely unknown on her part, and the end of Kuro proved Araragi was full of shit.
The biggest irony was that Tsukihi bawled like a baby during Shiro's rejections scene and said her brother was an idiot who should go die.
The Fire Sisters fucking love Cat.
8/10 anons, you made my morning
Kuro just proved that Araragi was kind of a dumbass and that he was too dense to realize Hanekawa's feelings for her.
>Tsukihi bawled like a baby during Shiro's rejections scene
Was this in the LN? This did NOT happen in the anime.
Crab seems like the kind of girl who wouldn't mind a threesome. Not even she was straight enough to resist Hanekawa.
>Even Nadeko is crying.
OK. NOW I'm calling bullshit. Either post a link to prove this or piss off.
I see. Well then, I'll be damned. Didn't sound like Nadeko was shaken up about it that much though.
However, are the commentaries even considered canon material that's part of the story?
Who's Hana? There's no girl named Hana.
>He would be more alpha than the dude bros who just shag moeblobs you see in most doujins though.
He wouldn't though
Kaiki is just bad end Koyomi, suffering from terminal loneliness
Hard mode but doable; curly or big guy need to drug and trick themselves into believing they are in love with her, then proceed to his usual smooth-talk business.
The third guy is too much of a scary cat, he won't make it.
>he was too dense to realize Hanekawa's feelings for her.
It's his creepy savior complex thing he has with her (on top of the usual spaghetti-spilling that Hanekawa just naturally causes in people) He can't see her as his equal, therefore he's not able to acknowledge something like that with her.
It isn't because there would be issues with Tsukihi knowing about oddities.
It's in-character though. Like how Hollow Ataraxia, despite its dubious canon, has the characters in-character, they say what they would say or do in those situations. Tsukihi would cry for Hanekawa and call her brother an idiot for example.
He created Ougi who bullies Hanekawa because of his beta feelings, if you read the commentary for episode 1 of Koi, it's all there between the lines. Trying to stir up her composure, trying to make her angry, it's like a kid who can't just say they like a girl and pulls their hair to get a reaction.
Not to mention how Araragi begged her to stay by his side on his knees crying when he was seeing her off at the airport.
Then when Ougi makes fun of her for having three personalities, she says "but now I have only one!" in a pouty voice and Ougi says it's no fair if she says it that cutely. That should clinch it.
Then you have Ougi Travel, where she says Hanekawa smiles at everyone but her and tries to play it off that she doesn't care.
Little clues like that are nice nuggets.
Nisio writes them, hwo wre they not canon?
Of course theya re meta as fuck, but what was funny in this commentaryw as how Tsukihi kept saying she would get moved by the scene yet fakes cries in the end,
>If you don't cry in this scne you fail as a human being, you don't have a heart
>Ehh you attacked Nadeko while crying!?
Yeah, much like that, but I tink that's the point. Its not that Tsukihi did that, but the she would have done that, showing in this way how deeply she wanted his brother to be with Hanekawa, or at least how she would have felt about him for reject Hanekawa's feelings.
In character, not canon. It reveals some things about the characters offstage, but the meta shit some characters shouldn't know shouldn't be thought of as canon, just like it's ignored in the actual story as jokes.
And Tsukihi said that, I could barely understand her when I first went through it.
>Araragi begged her to stay by his side on his knees crying when he was seeing her off at the airport.
And when is this LN supposed to be animated??
I might get all originals blurays in a single purchase if they have a goodbye kiss or a goodbye fondling.
The anime might skip it, since iirc, it's mentioned offhandedly, but it in the second part of Owari. No kissing or fondling because she wouldn't have that unless he was dating her.
That was what I said, some information and revelations are canon (like Gahara spending lots of time with Kanbaru and rejecting dates to say she would spend time with Kanbaru in Tsubasa Cat). SOME reveals are canon, most of it is in character meta.
It was in Zoku Owari. And it was more of a comical aside than a serious scene. He was crying because she was traveling to a war zone, not just because she was leaving.
>So is this just supposed to be nothing but side stories?
Yes. Why do you think it's just shorts that don't even air on TV? It's basically just a bunch of bonus side stories for fun and to see more of the Monogatari characters.
>Crab seems like the kind of girl who wouldn't mind a threesome
She lets Koyomi hang around with other girls solely so that he can choose her over all of them. Crab is in a weird tier of possessive, man.
Her cattats seemed quite small. And her lesbian haircut sucks balls, Black Hanekawa was tip-top impregnation material.
>watching the Gataris for any other purpose than pleasing your dick
>watching the Gataris for any other purpose than pleasing your dick
actually liking the characters helps in that regard
the overarching story itself is less interesting though, sure
Tsubasa does things to all of my dicks.
My mind dick, my heart dick and my physical dick.
BUT, I have a waifu, and I can't help but compare my self with ararararararagi in this regard.
This woman is perfect, but I can not leave my waifu for her.
Fuck off back to >>>/h/, samefag. Everyone on /a/ recognizes your posting style.
Nothing more cancerous than samefagging Jinfags.
Even the hentai threads hate the fuck out of you guys for hijacking threads.
Not surprising considering you vocal minority over at /h/ are the only autists capable of making a general on /h/ with less than 30 people all year long.
>I don't see how anyone could hate Crab after that car ride scene.
Usually the hate stems from after Bake, not from anything during Bake. It's sort of hard to hate her in Bake as it is considering she has more screentime than all the other girls put together in that season, chances are that if you disliked her there you probably didn't like Bake in general to begin with.
>Her cattats seemed quite small. And her lesbian haircut sucks balls
If you think her breasts are small, then the othe girls are completely flat, including Gahara.
And her haircut is in no way butch, just imagine when it grows longer again with the stripes. Plus her job helping the poor in war zones, we will get top tier cake cat with jeans and military fatigues, who solves oddity problems on the side.
Make it happen Nisio, Tsubasa Sleeping was good, but keep going.
Lucky for us, the dude has electra complex and wants to dick his own mother.
Even vampires are affected by poison, I say give hanekawa a cocktail of aphrodisiacs mixed with muscle relaxant. Once the dick is inside she has already lost.
Why would she take something obviously given by a guy who seems shady. She is one of the smartest characters in the series, she'd likely leave him drinking his own creation.
And should she take it, she'd likely just transform and even muscle relaxant won't stop him from being drained.
>Not to mention Tsukihi is known for being manipulative, selfish, and jealous of any girl that gets close to Araragi.
why is she always trying to stab him though? Did Nadeko actually pick up the yandere schtick from her or something?
OP is right. Having cat in all her glory made the wait worth it, just wish the studio invested more time on her body details.
>all this netorare talk
You all really really think she's gonna wait for Araragi keeping herself a virgin? Your faith in humanity is bigger than mine.
I think she had at least one lover on each city she hits.
No I agree with him that she is moving on and is treating Araragi as a friend, or more like a little brother now.
Don't think she is just dating anyone though, she seemjs the type to know the person first.
>not posting the latest version
Calm your 17yo tits and read the thread
Even if her heart will wait for Araragi until their time comes, I also believe she'll experiment all kind of emotions before that and will have plenty of lovers all over the world.
Isn't a betrayal IMO because they are not together
Sorry but you cucks have lost the war both genetically and intellectually since the dawn of mankind.
Turn your back around. Did you just realize that a cuck like you is posting from his favela now that I broke your temporary relief from living in a third world shithole.
Thank God, Zika is here to permanently cripple your genes as you can only produce shrinking brain sizes from that point onward.
I went there recently. It sucked. But, I noticed they've referenced Machu Picchu more than once. Another time was when Araragi was running round the world after Hachikuji told him to disappear.
This is all beefags in a nutshell.
The superior tomboy and best girl is clearly monkey but they are too siscon to see it.
But she's a lesbian and said herself that she's only interested in a physical relationship.
I would do terrible things to that woman.
If you're that liberal with their personalities you might as well choose any girl because you can just remove anything you don't like, right?
this scene should be illegal it got my jimmies so rustled
you do realize that there was more snail, right?
even if it was brief, our angel returned to us
>So is this just supposed to be nothing but side stories? Is it even really necessary to watch this? Because a lot the episodes are kinda boring and inconsequential.
Essentially my sentiments on the monogatari series in general.
>I just don't pretend I'm in a relationship with her.
I'm not judging your delusions anon.
I'm just saying her begin an
allegedlesbian does not prevent me from liking her the most.
Right off the bat i can see two ways, good news? both are legit
A). Hypnotize myself into believing I have a terminal ill and ask her a dying wish to relieve my pain with her body. After several sessiond of progressive sex and cumming my soul out in her I just bullshit my way into her heart.
As amazing as she is, Hanekawa is still a woman and a very maternal one at that, take advantage of this.
too much time?
B). Just smear yourself on pic related and she's yours.
Not all of it is necessary, mostly it's just fleshing out the characters/how they think a bit more.
But the last episode is definitely necessary ((probably Koyomi water too, as it introduces Kanbaru's bathtub, which is kind of important)), it's basically what starts the next story arc.
>Kaiki was compelled not to run from her even when he mentally wanted to, because he was compelled to think it was cowardly.
Kaiki, when he first heard of the name "Tsubasa Hanekawa", instinctively decided that she is someone not to be messed with. This despite the fact that he knew nothing else about her. Hanekawa is a dangerous creature.
>Because of the kanji composition?
Nope. He just felt TERROR, when he briefly considered targeting her for one of his scams. His mind automatically rejected it and told himself this is a BAD idea. As I say, this is despite him knowing nothing about her at all other than she being Araragi's friend.
I don't think I'm the anon you think I am, I don't post about her often.
And anyway, just saying "basically" because she does do a lot of logic defying things. Though granted a lot of those things happened in Kizu, she's better now than she was then, obviously, but she's still a huge unknown in the story as to what she's really capable of given the circumstances.
This megane bitch has overstayed her welcome. She's the worst character and the amount of screen time she gets is ludicrous.
Her cat form is bearable, but it doesn't save her regular character.
It's in Peru, not Japan.
Jesus christ anon, did you fail high school geography?
We haven't seen her nipples yet...
I don't consider that to be ALL her perfection.
I'd like to see the entire MEMEME video with Koyomi and both versions of Hanekawa.
Cat is cute as fuck, has great chemistry and dynamic with Araragi, and the stories that revolve around her have been consistently interesting and good. I honestly can't understand how anyone can think she's boring.
Anyone have any webm's of Hanekawa's scenes in Kizu?
Araragi is a cute girl so it doesn't count
It's more defined in the LNs but basically her relationship with Araragi is more like a less extreme version of Araragi's with Hanekawa. She just adores him and he's a defining part of the way she thinks in general.
So all are the fucking novels and shit adapted, with the exception of Kizu? I used to watch them when they came out before, but I noticed there was a lack of immersion due to the lack of continuity, which was due to me watching the last part like 6 months ago, causing me to forget minor details and stuff, so I've decided to just wait until everything is adapted and watch it all again in release order. It also doesn't help that, yes, shit is super scrambled all over the place.
>So why does bird change her hair so much and what is in the backpack?
Bird hair grows extremely quickly, so she HAS to cut it or she would always end up with ankel length hair. And she just cut it any way she feels like because it wasn't going to last anyway.
The backpack just has the usual items a little girl thinks she needs for a sleepover. Pyjamas, spare clothing, toothbrush and all that.
She is a great character that is why. I mean, the anime missed a lot of the bro moments she has with Araragi, and a very important part in Nise where he says she is like his second mother now, but even still I can't imagine how someone can say she is boring unless they need a girl to have some gimmick with their interactions with the main character.
She is wise, cute, sexy without trying to be, and sharp. These shorts are just showing you what was apparent throughout all of Monogatari, Hanekawa needs her own adventures. Nisio made her a shadow heroine helping Araragi in the background which was the first mistake, and then not developing her more as an exorcist which is the second. The way things are going for her now, I can say he learned that lesson.
>So why did they go with the Hobbit route for Kizu? Was there that much content that it couldn't fit into a single movie or 1 or 2 cour anime? Or is it because it prints money?
As a company, SHAFT probably decided that they couldn't handle making Kizu all in one go. Making three shorter movies makes it easier for their inability to manage their time. Look forward to how they would still end up delaying the next two films, because SHAFT being SHAFT and deadlines are merely guidelines.
>Thread about best girl
>Only 12 pics of best girl
You mean 0 pictures of the girl that is mathematically proved to be best.
More Cat is always good though.
That picture makes me want to kick Sodachi. She looks really kickable like not a single part of her wouldn't be fun to kick.
>More Cat is always good though.
More cat should be fucking good in her own thread. Anons missed the point that Op wanted a cat thread and it got derailed by the other girls.
Just like always, cat can't have her slice of happiness. The "man" has to keep cat down.
Are you her father?
There is a fair amount of discussion though, just not many pictures.
>There is a fair amount of discussion though, just not many pictures.
Reading is for losers!
Not her father, just somebody who wants to give her a good
kicking then dickingor the other way around.
She is supposed to be kindly loved into sanity, not abused more.
She is mentioned from now on.
Her promotion to main character was basically the largest deviation Nisio made from his original plans, just because he really liked her while writing the entire class for Ougi Formula. But while Araragi's trauma was planned, she wasn't so she was a hikikomori before her arc and moved out from the city after.
What the fuck, Yuudachi Houteishiki still hasn't been uploaded?
And with less than one week for sodachi arc OST with the volume 4, which probably won't even have youtube upload if there is no torrent.
If Shinobu Mail BD is uploaded on the same week it releases, then yes.
Nope. She mentions in the commentaries that when she noticed Araragi was getting off on her lectures, she lessened them.
Any attraction Araragi feels is purely because she is naturally hot.
>She mentions in the commentaries that when she noticed Araragi was getting off on her lectures, she lessened them.
A likely excuse from someone who spawned two separate monstrosities from her self-denial.
You talking about that one in Tsubasa Cat? She conveniently forgot how Araragi was purposefully hitting bumps in the road to get her to hug him tighter.
Face it man, she is just unintentionally cute and sexy. Araragi can't help himself. He even tries his best to look up her skirt like a gradeschool kid in Owari.
I want my mind to go blank as Hanekawa energy drains me as I creampie inside of her.
posting best gataris
I couldn't give less of a fuck about the tomboy but don't you dare sexualize Tsukihi you fucking piece of shit
>Araragi was getting off on her lectures
Is that why he was huffing and smiling like a doofus at the thought of having to call Cat to ask directions for Kagenui the day she skipped their lectures?
yeah, tell her not to sexualize herself.
You answers you own question.
Why do you think he always tries to get her to say her catchphrase? That is like conversational foreplay to him. And she says it all the time because he likes hearing it. Notice he smiles whenever she says it. And how he frowned when Gaen says hers.
>It retconned a bunch of stuff
Are you talking about how it retconned a lot of Tsubasa Cat Part 1? Because a good portion of that was anime original, since Nisio didn't fill in many details about what happened during Golden Week until he wrote Neko Kuro.
In general. She does the same with Gahara to an extent but the Hana LN makes it clear that how she thinks Araragi would react or think to certain situations compared to how she would is something that's often on her mind in general.
Great googly moogly. That was genuinely unsettling. Never seen a movie uses baby cries as bgm to communicate distress in its audience like that. That's pretty brilliant on the sound director's part. I can see why they decided to split Kizu into three movies.
>You will never be casually used by Shinobu as furniture and then go to Senjougaharas house to be berated and bullied by a girl madly in love with you
You had to make me think of Cat sunbathing topless didn't you?
I think it's cute and appropriate as a character OP, but it's really simple and straightforward to be one of the top tier OPs
>(Nadeko Snake chapter 2)
>“This might be inappropriate, but…Kanbaru. This isn’t about what you said, but if I’d met you before I started dating Senjougahara, I think I might have ended up dating you.”
>“Yeah, I think the same thing if I had met you before being charmed by Senjougahara-senpai. It’s really rare for me to feel like this about a member of the opposite sex.”
>Of course, I wouldn’t have met Kanbaru without Senjougahara and vice versa, so it was an impossible hypothetical.
>“I have an idea, Araragi-senpai. Since that girl’s in our way, how about we kill her and bury her?”
>“I don’t want to hear any more frightening ideas!”
>No matter how much I spoke with her, I couldn’t get a grasp on her character. She was unfathomable! Just how deep does your rabbit hole go, Kanbaru Suruga!?
>“Isn’t Senjougahara your beloved upperclassman? …Honestly, you have a surprisingly black heart.”
>“Please, enough compliments. I’m going to blush.”
>“That wasn’t a compliment.”
>“Anything you say to me makes me happy, Araragi-senpai.”
>“You damn masochist girl…”
>“Damn masochist girl? I like it. Call me that more.”
>Araragis haircut at the end of Kanbarus arc
I fucking love Monkey
i'm surprised this was actually translated considering it's non-h
I get that it's not really possible for it to be a 1:1 adaptation but it's a damn shame how much good banter gets lost from LN to anime. With all the characters in general, that is.
She's a tease throughout the entire arc. She guilt-trips Araragi into accepting this as a date (this is before he's even taken Gahara out on a date too)
If she operates more off of her feelings now, then it means feelings like lust and falling in love with a genuinely attractive man are things that can happen. QED - she can fall to the dick.
Oh my fucking god...
Are you telling me that everything Araragi did to help Cat only turned into someone who cares more about her feelings than what's right?
FUck me, that's what made her perfect goddamnit!!!! Now she's just the same as 3dpd scum
>Wanting your waifu to suffer under the burden of 2D perfection
You don't even love her do you?
No amount of oddities will help her once I force her to sit on my dick and the whole Shaft is up to her bellybutton.
Normally, there would be no connection, but her hands with the 4-panel structure are being positioned in such a way that it resembles the placement of the characters in an infamous strip. It's really forced but recognizable because it's so forced.
Say what you want about her character, she's the most breed-worthy.
That is the problem I have with the fanbase, there is no good reason they give why she is overshadowed. She is a good character, wise, and good in conversation.
She is the ultimate straight man, but also has good gags. It's just that she doesn't go into gag mode in every convo that she has with Araragi.
Seeing as the one novel that she ends up as narrator is one of the most popular, I would say people agree to her being excellent.
>there is no good reason they give why she is overshadowed
She overshadowed everyone else in the first season, and the series in general doesn't really have a "main girl" to begin with. She still pops up from time to time too, moreso than Nadeko or Karen atleast.
>It's just that she doesn't go into gag mode in every convo that she has with Araragi.
Most characters don't, gags just tend to be the main thing people talk about. Gahara isn't doing anything different in that sense.
Frankly people overexagerrate how overshadowed she is. There are plenty of times where Araragi brings her up for no particular reason at all, especially in the LNs.
>She is the ultimate straight man, but also has good gags. It's just that she doesn't go into gag mode in every convo that she has with Araragi.
What are you even talking about? Hanekawa is the straight man, not Gahara. Most of Gahara's speech is focused around her dumb tsundere schtick.
Different sort of "overshadowed" here. The conversation started when someone claimed Cat was overshadowed in that all the other girls are better and more interesting than her.
Which I strongly disagree with, but hey.
I thought Tsubasa Tiger and Shinobu Mail are the ones that happen at the same time? Doesn't araragi go save Hanekawa from the tiger after Shinobu eats her old thrall?
WHY DOES SHE HAVE SO MANY FUCKS, FUCK MONKEY WHERE DOES IT ALL COME FROM AND WHY ARE THEY ALL THE EXACT SAME BOOK JESUS THIS DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT I WOULD ANNIHILATE ALL OF YOUR HOLES WITH MY PENIS WHILE WE HAVE WITTY BANTER THO EVERYTHING ABOUT SURUGA IS GOD TIER.
Guys I finally understand __Monogatari.
Everything is symbolic and look like cheap props because their entire universe is a stage.
There are no extraneous characters, just the necessary actors and the other human beings are merely implied or represented by props.
The dramatic and quirky way of speaking comes off as incredibly witty because it's all rehearsed from a script.
This show has gone beyond Meta.
>if Crab didn't exist he'd probably end up with Monkey
>if Bee wasn't his sister he'd probably end up with her
this shit has been going on since 09, how dense are you?
Kanbaru seems to be worried that Tsukihi may be next once he finishes maxing out the Karen route in the Hana LN
>"This is so strange. My brother had no hesitation in declaring that his sisters are super annoying, that he won't go to our funeral, but the moment I graduated from middle school he suddenly wants to play with me. Maybe he is getting older too"
>I ardently pray the reason is not because Karen-chan changed from a middle schooler to a high schooler. Next time I will ask Araragi-senpai's inclinations to Tsukihi -- though I haven't had much contact with his sister, who is still a middle schooler.
>Somewhere in bizarro /a/ there is a monkey that won the ragi
It barely even changes the story either, Gahara's only really important in Hitagi Crab and Mayoi Snail. In Hitagi End Kaiki would've noticed sooner that his waifu's daughter was in danger and would've stepped in by himself as well.
It means Araragi isn't very faithful. He calls Hanekawa his second mother and even currently in the story, refers to her as "My Hanekawa".
Sure, it's realistic that one can have affection for more than one person, but it's actually kind of sad how tenuous the Crab/Araragi relationship is. What is worse is that Crab gets off on him being a hairs breadth to cheating, and also has a "special" relationship with Cat.
Hanekawa was right to get off the crazy train, she should find a good guy when she joins that government organization for disaster relief. Dangerous occupation though.
I agree with you in general, but I don't see how calling someone your second mother counts as flirting.
Also, where are people getting the disaster relief thing from? I'm pretty sure she went to countries in need to pay off a debt from chartering a jet, not because she joined a government organization.
It's mentioned that she joins an NGO, in Hana iirc. Araragi was worried about her in Zoku, and it was foreshadowed because it's something that fits the vagrant lifestyle that she plans to adopt.