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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-35714067

>The godmother of manga sex in Japan

>A recent UN report weighed into a debate that provokes intense controversy in Japan, by including manga in a list of content with violent pornography. The BBC's Yuko Kato went to meet one of Japan's leading female manga artists, Keiko Takemiya, seen as the woman who opened the floodgates to sexually explicit manga.

>In doing this, Ms Takemiya herself admits, she may have opened the door to sexual expression in Japanese manga, and it grew from something virtually non-existent to something the UN now considers could be a threat to the welfare of women and children.

>In March, the UN Special Rapporteur on the sale of children, child prostitution and child pornography Maud de Boer-Buquicchio, submitted a report to the UN Human Rights Council, citing a US State Department report which calls Japan "a major producer of sexually exploitative representations of virtual children".

>Whether or not the depiction of "virtual children" in manga is violating an actual human right is the crux of the issue. A lot of the material that draws criticism does not aspire to the literary heights of Ms Takemiya's work and critics say it exists purely for titillation. Many believe that even if it is fiction, it should be regulated.

So, how do we protect virtual children from faceless balding fat men and their disembodied dicks?
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We rape the faceless balding fat men with their own disembodied dicks.
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>UN
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You do nothing. They don't need protection.
They will never be real.
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Also, this is the woman that wants to save virtual children the most. She's Dutch.

She'll save testicle tamers.
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>Keiko Takemiya
Literally fucking who?
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>>138682326
>this shit again

Why is the human race unable to tell fiction from reality?
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>>138682501
>In doing this, Ms Takemiya herself admits, she may have opened the door to sexual expression in Japanese manga, and it grew from something virtually non-existent to something the UN now considers could be a threat to the welfare of women and children.
Got to protect the children, silly. Japan is a society of child molesting woman haters and lolicon is the crux of that. Ban the loli and Japan can be a liberal and progressive state.

You want to protect the fluid druids, right? This anon >>138682402 has the right idea.

Seriously though, foreigners are never going to give up until Japan gives way and follows the West with its progressive values of child protection. Real or fake.
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>>138682467
kill yourself
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At what point did the entirety of the western hemisphere suddenly become bigots of the highest order?
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>>138682640
since always, do you even History?
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Not this shit again.
We already have a thread yesterday.

http://pastebin.com/iMpUZuQc
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>>138682326
>Whether or not the depiction of "virtual children" in manga is violating an actual human right is the crux of the issue

How is this even an issue to begin with? Jesus Christ people are so fucking stupid.
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>>138682760
Because 2D people have rights too.
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>>138682326
>the depiction of "virtual children" in manga is violating an actual human right
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It makes me mad that there are ACTUAL CHILDREN who are being raped every goddamn day in this world and they choose to focus on drawings. Drawings are not real, they have never been real, they will never be real, they do not fucking matter. What matters is helping the REAL children who are being abused all over the world.

What it comes down to is they don't actually want to help the children, they just want a scapegoat they can point to and go, "Isn't he awful?" And they've chosen picture books as that scapegoat. Not poverty, which often forces children into prostitution. Not lax sex assault laws, which put rapists back on the streets after serving too-short sentences. Not war, which puts dislocated children at risk of being roped into the slave trade. OH NO. It's those dirty Japanese and their picture books, that's the real problem.
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>>138682760
Because its the easiest thing to do.
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>>138682732
Haha wow
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>>138682326
Protip to everyone its not the UN its the UN for Women who is pushing this shit
If the UN is the NBA then the UN for Women is like the group of retards who play basketball down the street at the park
The real UN couldn't even enforce this shit on Japan if they wanted

This is also the same "UN" that invited SJWs to speak about being a victim of cyber bullying
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>>138682402
>Vote for Trump
>Cuts spending by cutting all the UN funding
>America is great again.
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I want to commit real crimes to virtual children. Please arrest me
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>>138682679
>Artistic freedom where?
Same place as freedom of speech

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/07/20117206368409551.html
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>>138682326
I want a BBC coverage of C90 and want them to interview Asanagi, Shiruka Bakaudon, Nishi Iori and tksn.
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>>138683591
According to a doujin author I met in an S&M bar, Asanagi is actually quite a nice person IRL.
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>>138682326
>7 wars going on in the Middle East simultaneously
>UN debates dirty mongolion picture stories

BRAVO

>>138682640
Yeah, we've always been sanctimonious shits, we've just put of a different face since our empires fell.
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>>138683279
>If the UN is the NBA then the UN for Women is like the group of retards who play basketball down the street at the park
Wouldn't it be the WNBA, something much more embarrassing that latched itself to the NBA?
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>>138683153
>Not lax sex assault laws, which put rapists back on the streets after serving too-short sentences.
They are totally for consenting adults rescinding their consent hours/days/weeks/months/years later though.

In addition to not punishing individuals who cry wolf for fears that no one would ever actually speak up when there is a real wolf.
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>>138683666
Shiruka seem very normal too
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>>138683591
tksn would go down first. Shiruka Bakaudon or Nishi Iori could go second, I'm not quite sure which. Asanagi ironically would be the last to go, but if people got a hold of most of his dialogues I'm sure he'd get the most noise.
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>>138683684
Yeah, and the guy in charge of human rights in the real UN is fucking Saudi. The UN is a fucking joke.
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>>138683279
>This is also the same "UN" that invited famous cyber bullies to speak about being a victim of cyber bullying

Fix that for you.
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>>138682326
>the """"""UN"""""""""
wow, its fucking nothing
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>>138682326
>Meanwhile at Ume Aoki
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whatever
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>>138683398
You're under arrest for being a disgusting lolicon.
We're going to lock you up in loli prison. You better watch your ass, the girls in there don't like your kind.
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>>138682467
There are many legendary manga giants /a/ never knows.
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>U.N.
You know, even if these chuckle fucks can't accomplish anything. I think they need to have their shit set straight. Protecting the rights of something fictional is ridiculous. It is tantamount to policing thought crime.
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>>138682457
Oh, it's a old codger trying to be relevant.
>>138682760
Because it's easy and they're too old or incompetent to tackle the actually important shit.
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>>138684052
It's not even the actual UN.
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When are you faggots going to stop posting this shit.
The U.N haven't done shit for years whilst saying that it will.
This is just the latest example of many.
http://www.chicksontheright.com/japan-to-feminist-un-committee-you-do-know-that-fictional-characters-arent-real-right/
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>the UN is arguing whether virtual children can fall under child abuse
>meanwhile hundreds of real children are abused by catholic priests
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>>138682467
A pioneer of the shonen ai genre, aka the original fujoshit
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>>138685365
Also ignoring that hundreds of actual women and children are often abused by their peacekeepers
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>>138683153
They do it for the money and fame, anon.

Going after rapists doesn't give you those things unless it was a high profile case.

Going after Japan gets you attention because it's international.
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>something the UN now considers could be a threat to the welfare of women and children.

On what grounds? Oh right, your ass, like everything else that modern feminism tries to present as a real issue.

This movement has no place in our schools or our politics. Just because you look like and share some superficial similarities with people who were oppressed in the past and crusaded for justice does not mean that you are oppressed or that your crusade is just.

>Many

Nice weasel word.
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>legally not allowed loli porn because they're too real
>can't legally marry waifu because she's not real enough
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>>138682891
More like 2D has more rights than certain real people nowadays.
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>>138685528
You mean the Fujo Queen?
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>>138685365

>millions of women live under oppressive regimes all around the Muslim world
>in their own countries, women are captured and used as sex slaves
>the women's UN's biggest priority is trying to stop people from drawing pictures

First World Problems: The Movement forms First World Problems: The Council.
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>>138682640
We're not trying to be bigots, silly. It's always been our job to bring civility to uncivilized lands.
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>thought crimes gaining more and more recognition

I'm not sure how much longer I want to live on this earth. I wish guns were legal in my country.
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>>138687077

You're a part of the silent majority, anon.

People just need to be emboldened.
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>>138686972
You can't stop Muslims raping kids, that's racist.
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>>138687129

And this is where the term "regressive left" was born.
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>>138687077
SYBIL SOON
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>>138687161
I thought the term regressive left was born when they started trying to re-segregate people.
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>>138685365
You mean the UN ignoring the 1500 children raped in Rotherham.
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>UN in charge of morality

NOT
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>>138687212

I'm pretty sure that it has its origins in some left wingers refusing to criticize Islam on the grounds of being scared to be seen as bigots.

Either way, the term currently encompasses the whole group of people who claim to be left wingers but actually show very little interest in upholding ideas of freedom and equality.
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http://nichegamer.com/2016/03/japanese-representative-refutes-un-suggestion-to-ban-media-depicting-sexual-violence/
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>People harmed by sexual depictions of fictional underaged characters: 0
>People harmed by banning sexual depictions of fictional underaged characters: 1+

This seems pretty obvious to me.
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>>138682467
>he didn't watch JEEEEEET BOOOOOOOOOOY
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>>138687289
The thing is, that's not really all that "regressive" so it's not really a reason to start calling them the "regressive left". I mean, it's fucking retarded. But it's not exactly going backwards to how things used to be.

Re-segregation on the other hand is, and it's more or less the exact thing "regressive" right-wing racists want. Hence, Regressive Left.
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>>138682326
UN is fucking thrash, they think that they can decide whats right or wrong for the whole world.
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>>138687111
>>138687077
The myth guns will make it better.
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>>138687457
what are myth guns?
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So to summarize this thread, the UN won't be able to do shit.
And my japanese cartoons are safe?
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>>138687510
I hope they are because I own five or six artbooks by this woman
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>>138687378

>movement oppresses women (legitimate oppression, not just attempts to construe male sexuality, natural market forces, and female agency as sexism against women... a series of claims which are impossible to back up using hard data) and is scared of sex outside of marriage
>movement is unbelievably violent, lacking any of the standards of humane treatment that we have today
>defending and embracing this movement, regardless of your reasons

Sounds pretty regressive to me.
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>>138687510
Given that the Olympics are in about 4 years and will take place in Tokyo it will give the issue more weight. Abe has wanted to rid of loli all together and with the coming of the west for the Olympics it would be the best time to act.
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>>138685653
>On what grounds?
It boggles my mind that people ITT are so incapable of reading. This time, the article even links to UN documents that would've answered this question (footnotes taken into account) - never mind that almost all UN documents are freely available to read online, too.

Honestly, if you don't even read the justifications your opponent gives, you are just as bad as the people you are clamoring about for not doing enough research. You are the same sort of people as them; those that sheepishly accept their peers' opinion. You just randomly happen to be on the IMHO right side, but for very wrong reasons.

I hate nothing more than people on my side poorly defending my position and even being smug about it.
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>>138682732
In the neo liberal mind of doublethink "freedom of speech" actually means "freedom to do the things I like, things I don't like should be illegal"
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>>138687595
I hope not.
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>>138687595
China and Russia sure didn't clean up their act when the Olympics came to them, I'm not worried.
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>>138683684
wait which seven? I can only find 5 going on so far
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_conflicts_in_the_Middle_East
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>>138687495
The ones used by toddlers to shoot their parents who brought them into the house because they believed it would make them safer.

The ones too easily purchased by angry people to seek revenge for the perceived injustices of their employer, teachers, co-workers, ex-girl friend/boy friend.
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I except the UN to do nothing like they've always been doing. Shit governments are so fucking incompetent that they have to focus on my fetishes instead of a country who is failing to make nukes.
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>>138682732
It's not your right to say what Japan should and shouldn't do. As long as people have pencils and minds, they will draw this shit.
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>UN
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>>138682457
>Women fighting with women for the rights of 2D women
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>>138687595
How long is Abe going to be in charge for, aren't most of the Japanese a bit unsatisfied with him already?
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>>138688037
It's just pointless.
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>>138682326
Oh boy, Japan is telling the UN to fuck off again. So what are we up to now? Have we broken a thousand yet?
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>>138688618
>feminist
>having any knowledge at all of the things she critiques
Pick one.
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>>138682457
The Netherlands should fix the rape problems they have in their own country before they point their finger to what's arguable the most safe country on the planet.
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>>138688618
Feminists are political.

They don't do this for the safety of women and children. They don't give a fuck about Japanese women and children.

They attack Japan because it's an orderly homogeneous society (that has very low rape in comparison).
And this low-rape country is run by a very strong patriarchy, which in their mind is the ultimate evil, so it's an insult to the Feminists when a country with such a strong patriarchy can be so peaceful with low rape and low crime.

So they detest it in every way and will try to attack it in any way possible, even when there is no harm.

That's a modern day feminist for you.
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>>138689728
>low rape and low crime
Don't be a weeb. Japan has low crime rates because their justice system is shit.

http://www.vox.com/world/2015/12/13/9989250/japan-crime-conviction-rate
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>>138690298
>Japan has low crime rates because their justice system is shit.
What kind of logic is this?

You're saying the police are being brutes, and that's what stops someone from raping a Japanese girl?

I think you're just making up anything, just to disagree with me, or just to bump your thread. You're like a feminist.
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>>138690383
In all fairness, their report and prosecution rates aren't what they should be.
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>>138690857
Hell, that's why Ace Attorney was made. Someone like Wright would be treated as a god.
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Lolicon prison:
No stabbings, since we are all non-violent.
No sexual assault, since we are all loyal to 2d.
Everyone makes friends with eachother and feels more accepted than ever before.
Everyone can be a NEET.

Sounds wonderful.
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>>138690383
Japan doesn't have enough resources to lay charges on every criminal, only the easy retarded ones with footprints everywhere get convicted, while the rest ends up getting excluded from "crime rates" because they would be deemed "innocent" since no one is there to investigate whether it's a homicide case or suicide case.
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>>138691854
The link you provided claimed the opposite though. The link says the police is too effective.
It's the opposite of your speculation.
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>>138691937
I'm not that person
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>>138691271
Solitary is just a secluded room with a waifu pillow of your choosing.
It's a reward not a punishment.
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Its still too soon for the west to be reading manga.
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Pedos don't justify your shit, anons either way going to hell, especially those ones enjoying 2D loli being torture, and same time watching 3D kids being sexually rape tortured on an illegal site, those kind of people are here, some anons and nips being trained to become one in the near future at young age, now Japanese pedophiles and some pedos here are sexually attracted to 3D babies, kids age 3 to 10, and preteens because of the influence of 2D.
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>>138691271
>>138692418
Where do I sign up for 25 to life?
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Sounds like a job for nudist beach OP.
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