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Carta-chan is my dead waifu.

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Carta-chan is my dead waifu.
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>>138666803
Confirmed for dead, McGillis killed her and now he is going to kill Gali
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>>138666803
>Go into grand standing and ranting, actually challenging someone to a duel in what is more or less a war between a corrupt PMC and another PMC composed of child soldiers.
>Act surprised when she gets fucking rekt.
This episode had me in fucking stitches today. She got the Indiana Jones treatment. Serves her dumbass right.

The moment she started with that duel challenge I was thinking in the back of my head "Is she retarded? There's no fucking way Mika, of all people, is going to agree to this. What is this, the middle ages?"

Kind of a dumb copout that she got 'saved' in the end so she could have her death-rant while being carried off, though. Show is getting a little too 'cookie cutter anime' with shit like that recently. Would have been so much more of a powerful scene if her ass just got smashed like her comrades.
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That stupid brow killed her in the first place.
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>>138667296
The dumbest part was that she had already challenged them with superior numbers and ship support twice before and still lost. Why did she think a three on three duel would go any differently? Tekkadan has better machines, AV systems, and more MS combat experience than she does. Hell, in the island assault I'm pretty sure Mika killed more than 3 of her guys just by himself.
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REMOVE MIKA
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>>138667919
Yeah, this irked the shit out of me too. She was very obviously sent there because McGillis knew her dumb ass would die. Dude pulled a Garma on her.
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Shino better stay the fuck inside next episode or his ass is dead.
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>>138666803
I'd say I'm sorry for your recent loss, but I'm really not. Bitch had it coming, and so did you.
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Dino mace has really grown on me. The series actually did a decent job of making it seem like it hits really hard.

>Carta's greatest accomplishment was kicking over a MW 1/8th the size of her ms.
>This was also her entire squads only kill/victory
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>>138668465
> That was also her first real battle
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>>138668507
That was their second. The attempt to stop the descent to earth was the squads first real ms combat.
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>>138668374
Yeah anyone that's not Mika and maybe Akihiro is fucked if they try to 1V1 Gali or Ein, Shino has a really bad track record when it comes to Ein
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>>138668465
>Dino mace has really grown on me.
I also like his distaste of glorious nippon steel.
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>>138668710
That kinda cracks me up, actually. When I saw a katana I had a pretty big eye roll, but Mika has been unusually consistent as a figure in the show that, more than anyone else, is really grounded, practical, and common-sense.
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oh so is she actually dead
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>>138668710
That was great. He's disliked the thing from the first time he used it.
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>>138668745
I remember everyone in the threads being mad because the model kit spoilers made it look like they were going to outright replace the mace with it.
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>>138668586
Maybe Yamagi will get in a confession or "come back safe for me" before Shino bites it.

>>138668759
Yeah, there's no life in her eyes.
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>>138668586
Based Grazein will deliever
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>>138668374
I want that faggot dead
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Don't worry guys
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>>138666803
Despite being an incompetent commander she was the most entertaining enemy they faced.
RIP in peace beautiful princess

>>138668586
>>138668374
I was betting on Shino but now that I finally caught up my bet is on unnamed kids biting it next week especially the one that was with Takaki.
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>>138668866
Triple dubs cheched.
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>>138669045
>tfw Ein is just the guinea pig prototype for what McGillis plans to turn himself into which is why Ein's in a Graze frame and not a Gundam
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>>138669100
I think his plan is to have Ein make a big splash and wreck shit, but pull the plug on him and get him killed before he scores a kill so that he can turn to Gjallerhorn and say "well we threw our trump card at them and they took a big fat shit all over it. What do?"
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>>138669100
Why would he need a gundam when he has a Valkyrie frame MS? They were supposed to have been developed at the same time as the gundams with performance on par with them.
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>Galigali will die
>His friends are dead
>McGillis is manipulative bastard
Being Almiria is suffering.

>>138669168
It will be hilarious if all McGillis had to do was push the reset button.
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>>138669242
I never said McGillis needed a Gundam. He's just not going to give a Gundam frame to an experiment.
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>>138669168
I think the "No Ahab reactors in the city" thing is going to be relevant. Ein is going to go ballistic and drag the fight into the city so McGillis can backstab him and Gaelio and use them fighting in the city as evidence of the current Gjallarhorns corruption and brutality. Bonus points if its Gaelio's name on all the paperwork for Ein's surgery and deployment.
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>>138669100
>Yfw Ein kills half the cast and all the stupid "Muh revenge" kids
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>>138669045
What happened to Ein? Did he fuse with the machine or something? They didn't show him for some reason. I think they did something else besides implanting the Alayashiki system.
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>>138669416
>yfw you realize you'll never get the Ein dick
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Ein is Gundam.
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>>138669416
EIN ENDURES
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>>138669526
They did a little of this with him.
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>>138669526
They did show us.
this is ein right now
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>>138669526
He's an armless torso hooked directly into the cockpit.

Someone post the picture.
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>>138669100
>Implying the Graze mono eye won't get blown away to reveal Gundam Flauros below
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>>138669416
Determination that is incorruptible
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>>138669661
Even in death Ein still serve
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>17 yo
Cant believe it.
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>>138669764
Then it had better be Gundam Dantalian the Face-Changer.
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>>138669661
>>138669692
Man, that sucks. I understant now why Gaelio didn't want to perform that kind of surgery on him.
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>>138669764
Gundam flauros?
I googled it, but I found nothing
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>>138670010
Who?
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Guilty children need to be purged
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>>138670109
Ars Goetica. The Gundam names are all demon names.
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>>138670170
I know that, but I thought it was some new pla model that I didn't know about.
But is there some demon lore reason why he would be Flauros?
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>>138670271
>He gives true answers of all things past, present and future, but he must be first commanded to enter a magic triangle for if not he will lie, deceive the conjurer, and beguile him in other business. But if he enters the triangle he will answer truly, and gladly speak about divinity, the creation of the world, himself, and other fallen angels. He can also destroy all the conjurer's enemies by burning them up. If the magician requests it, he will not suffer temptations from any spirit or in any form.

>Commonly people represent him as a humanoid leopard with big claws. Flauros is depicted as a terrible and strong leopard that under request of the conjurer changes into a man with fiery eyes and an awful expression.

>Flauros can also supposedly be called upon when a mortal wishes to take vengeance on other demons. This is likely included in his capability to destroy the conjurer's enemies.
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>>138669394
Crap, the more I think about it, the more it seems obvious that Gaelio is being set up as the fall guy for gjallarhorn being corrupted.

>McGillis is leading him around by the nose While technically keeping his own hands clean of it.
>Gaelio is the heir of one of the biggest powers in Gjallarhorn.
>He's been using his family influence To pull out an old family ms and jump from division to division to chase after a group for personal reasons.
>Was part of an operation and personally there when another member of the 7 stars died.
>Carta is going to be the honorable noble who died due to the machinations of the corrupt Gjallarhorn.
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>>138670321
Oh the conjurerer to who he swore his loyalty to is Gali-gali and the other demons are Barbatos/Mika and Gusion/Aki.
That makes sense and would be pretty cool
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>Just a torso.
>Black MS.
>Wants to keep fighting.
>Most of the MS designs in the series are inspired by Knight armor.

Ein is quite literally in almost every sense the Black Knight from the Holy grail.
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>>138670566
So Mika is the vorpal bunny?

...oh shit, it makes sense!
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>>138669242
Is that a modded Tallgeeze or did IBO really copy a Tallgeese?
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>>138670794
It's an hg grimgerde modified with tallgeese parts.
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>>138670859
Actually, the gun seems to be the ground gundam cannon and the backpack is from the G-bouncer specifically, but you get the idea.
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>>138668710
clearly he likes his mace type weapon, filthy edge weapon should screw themselves when Mika is around.
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>>138669045
>what is left of his body is now inside of the machine
>probably the cockpit was remodeled to serves as a life support.

Is Ein now in a dreadnought?
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>>138671254
Yes, Brother Tankred still serves even in death.

Get back to /tg/, 40K.
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I'am see:

-Carta: respectable opponent...
-Mika: bloodthirsty protagonist...

I'm not sure if Tekkadan are the "good"
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>>138671254
Yes
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>>138670045

Well, Gaelio probably though it'll be somewhat similar to the kids and didn't expect the surgery would be that bad

>>138670119

Apparently Carta is 17 just like her VA
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>>138671398
Gaelio go home
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>>138671398
Tekkadan are the protagonist not the good guys, in a any case Kudelia is the "good" but is stuck with this child soldiers. Mcgillis can be another good since he is aiming to reform the corrupt Gjallarhorn but he is to mysterious, he could end being a well intentioned extremist in the end.
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>>138669416
It would have been glorious. But I'm afraid Ein wouldn't be able to kill anybody even after all the shit he went through. Fat fuck was the only disposable member of tekkadan, they created so much drama out of his death that's it for this season.
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>>138667165
I lost my eyebrows
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>>138671777
>Ein appears and start fighting
>Mika is busy agains GaliGali
>he manage to get the high ground against the others
>he is close to get his first kill.
>Mcgillis appears and shoot him killing him.
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>>138671526
Wow. I thought she was 40.. It's her eyes, they made her look much older.
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>>138671665
>Manipulates his friends and sends one to die
>Good
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>>138671889
>Shows her as a kid with Gaelio and McGillis
>"I though she was 40"
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>>138667995
Did this actually happen? Thank god I dropped this shitshow. 1st for Thunderbolt making Gundam great again.
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>>138666803
I wasn't even angry with Mika, because what could you expect from him, he is an autistic maniac. But McGillis is the true scum bag of this series, he sent them to their death while lying about friendship to their faces and no Carta, not Gaelio did anything bad to him.
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>>138672011
Isn't McGillis 29?
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>>138671931
He may be a shitty friend but he killed his friends for a greater good.

>>138672011
S-shut up
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>>138672063
Thunderbolt is so based

I wish it was longer
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>>138672144
how long until they reveal that Gaelio had feelings for her?
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>>138672228
Maybe next ep. First Ein, now Carta, Gaelio really can't have a break. But I think it means he won't be killed, he has suffered enough.
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>>138668710
>>138671209
>Look at me im such a contrarian i hate katanas fug edgy katanas XD
And he didn't dislike it he said its hard to use.
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thunderbolt ep 3 release date?
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>>138672522
>If you don't like katana you're just being contrarian.

Or I just prefer the giant mace weapon.

And he obviously dislikes it. He claims its hard to use, only uses it when he has no other weapon, and he even chose an unknown weapon hes never used before over it.
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>every day I wake up hyped for brother ein to slay orphans
>it's only Tuesday
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child carta was so fucking cute
her adult design was good too but something about her younger version was just fantastic
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>>138671526
>Apparently Carta is 17
How is she 17 when Chocolate Man is in his late 20's?
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>>138672965
She didn't look older than she is half the time as a child.
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>>138672991

That makes no sense to be, she should be in her early to mid-twenties at most. I wonder if people are just pulling that number out of their asses due to "LOL Inoue Kikuko" or is there an actual official source to that
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Ein will kill enough orufenz next episode to satisfy me, but I'd trade it for McGillis getting served justice by Gaelio
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>>138666803
She's just sleeping dummy.
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If Inaho was perfect autistic Macguyver, then Mika is perfect autistic Jason Bourne. And all of their enemies are plain retarded for it.
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>>138672144
>Took his childhood crush
>Killed her
>Convinced him Cyborg Ein would be all cool and not a monster
>Just the diagram of what they did to him is horrifying.

At Gaelio's suffering will end in 2 episodes. When McGillis kills him so he can manipulate his sister better ;_;
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>>138673266
>McGillis getting served justice by Gaelio
That sadly won't happen. I wish he'd just get out of this mess at the last minute. Please Gaelio, do it at for your little sister, she doesn't deserve this.
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>>138667296
>This episode had me in fucking stitches today.
Glad I'm not the only one. The writing is so offensively bad and the characters are so stupid that I'm actually just laughing through each episode now.
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>>138670332
>>McGillis is leading him around by the nose While technically keeping his own hands clean of it.
>>Gaelio is the heir of one of the biggest powers in Gjallarhorn.
Chocoman is also marrying Galigali's sister no?

Schemes
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I want Mika to get called out on his shit, most preferably by Orga.
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>>138669394
>>138670332
Makes too much sense
>GaliGali gets framed for everything, McGillis explains this to him right before he kills him just to be the ultimate douche.
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>>138673586
What shit? The adults "calling them out" was laughable. They way this site tries to paint morality, duty and intelligence is hilarious.
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>>138673586
>orga
>doing anything
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>>138673489
I mean honestly. A fucking duel? Really? At least when they pulled that shit in 0079 it actually made way more fucking sense. Who the fuck just comes right out and challenges an enemy force to a duel, then cries MUH HONOR when they get fucking rekt? Mikazuki is fucking based. Waifu fags BTFO.
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>>138673644
>pssstt.... nothing personnel
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>>138669100

Shax would be the PERFECT Gundam for McGillis with the way he's been developed until now.

>Shax is thought to be faithful and obedient, but is a great liar and will deceive the conjurer unless obliged to enter a magic triangle drawn on the floor. He will then speak marvellously and tell the truth. He knows when lies are told and uses these to teach lessons.
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>>138673661
Mika is still far from based, but he was definitely in the right during that scene.
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Reminder that Biscuit's blood is all on Orga's hands
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>want proper duel 3 on 3
>fucking Mika run and do surprise attack

What a douche, it will be great seeing McGillis killing him in last episode and marrying loli.

I really hope the show will end with Gjallarhorn win, actually it can't end any other way.
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>>138673661
Perhaps you missed the part where this is a fictional world and duels were considered a proper way to settle things by the uncorrupt Gjallarhorn?
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>>138673717
>Hunt your team down
>Constantly try to kill you
>Actually kill your best friend through underhanded tactics mid battle
>Expect then to agree to a honorable duel when they have the upper hand
You have to be a special kind of retard to buy into the rhetoric the cake and mechanic were shitting out. Though I guess anyone who takes the writing in IBO seriously qualifies as retarded already.
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>>138673644
>merribit missed out sexual healing and is now Kudelia since kudelia stepped up
>black mechanic knows he can't do shit and just watches
>Turbines are just helping out, similar boat as black mechanic
>Naze isn't on earth
This is great.
>>138673661
Akihiko shot at them during their second fight, it's even more confusing they expect anything, as well as what happened to Crank, getting capped post fight and all, despite asking for it.
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>>138673843
>merribit missed out sexual healing and is now Kudelia since kudelia stepped up
This would imply Kudelia is no longer a useless idiot. That would be incorrect.
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This fucker is insane and empty inside.
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>>138673819
>underhanded tactics mid battle
>Attacking a tank with the enemy commander right on it directing the enemies.

wot

>You have to be a special kind of retard to buy into the rhetoric the cake and mechanic were shitting out. Though I guess anyone who takes the writing in IBO seriously qualifies as retarded already.
Whoa making me remember when I used to be retarded teen just like you.
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>>138673812
>But it's fictional
So? They're still people. Anyone in their right mind isn't going to accept a duel because dueling is fucking retarded. Only Gallarhorn even follows the dumb tradition, and even then, not all of Gallarhorn, just her dumb ass because she's a posh noble, not a soldier. She was a spoiled rich kid put into a position of command despite no real combat experience in mobile suits. McGillis sent her there knowing she'd get her stupid ass killed because her head is full of retarded customs and beliefs. Mika is someone that's grown up the complete opposite, and is far more level-headed and grounded in reality than pretty much anyone in the cast, even Orga. He's based because he's the only person in the show that doesn't forget that he's more or less at war with another PMC, and that there's no room in this life and death struggle for all of the ridiculous grand standing or emotional tirades that everyone else brings with them that ultimately fucks them over.
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>>138673811

>Season 2
>Mars STILL remains in poverty, slavery and corruption
>Kudelia and Makanai fail
>Irony is Tekkadan is getting lots of work
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>>138673644
>>138673661
He's competent but many of his crew are going to die because of his ways of doing things, specifically because he's the only one capable of stomping enemies like that, being the rabbid dog he is.

He only thinks in one way, doesn't know how to improvise and is just not human in general. He might as well be a fucking AI mobile suit.

>inb4 "that's what child soldiers do"

The rest of them are also child soldiers and despite their violence, do have a sense of emotion and rational that doesn't boild down to "ur tekkadans enemy, get recked"

Akihiro and Shino are far more based

>>138673652
Exactly, him finally stepping up properly for once would make it all the better.
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>>138673905
She still is but in comparison, at least lessened whining on uselessness and progressed a bit of plot purposely.

All she had to do was open the door, now Mika got Orga to be Punished Snake.
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>>138673958
>Somehow overhear Orga talking
>Somehow know who he is
>Attack the guy in a non combat unit who is exposed while your men literally hold Mika
>Immediately retreat
How stupid are you?

>Whoa making me remember when I used to be retarded teen just like you.
Very stupid, I guess. This show is garbage, I hope you don't think any of the writing even approaches decent.
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>>138673993
>Mars STILL remains in poverty, slavery and corruption
no way
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>>138673988
None of earth Gjallarhorn had real combat experience. 300 years of peace.

>Mika is someone that's grown up the complete opposite, and is far more level-headed and grounded in reality than pretty much anyone in the cast, even Orga
Making yourself sound like an edgelord if you honestly believe that.
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>>138674018
>at least lessened whining on uselessness and progressed a bit of plot purposely.
"We'll take the railroad owned by our benefactors!" and "politicians should lobby!" were the two ideas the plot tried to pretend were brilliant displays of leadership. That's a fucking joke on par with the rest of her ideas and declarations throughout the series.
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>>138673997
>isn't human
He's the most human one out of the whole lot of them. He's the only one without his head up his ass with ridiculous, out of context emotional baggage that makes no sense for people engulfed in an armed conflict.

He's the only person treating his enemies like actual enemies and not getting wrapped up in cliche anime pacifism where you're supposed to go abloo bloo bloo whenever you're forced to kill someone actively trying to kill you. He has made the right choice every single time so far in this show, and if it wasn't for him being one of the only mature people of Tekkadan acting in a way where the lives of his comrades are being handled responsibly by actually killing opponents instead of fucking around with stupid shit like duels and chivalry, Every single person in Tekkadan would be fucking dead right now.

He's like some old NCO that's been in the shit countless times, put in charge of a bunch of retards freshly drafted into the Army.
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Do you think we will see ein in all his cybernetic body horror glory?
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>>138674116
>Anyone that actually does shit instead of bursting into tears every 5 seconds is edgy
Found the fedora.
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>>138674077
>>Attack the guy in a non combat unit
Did you miss the scene of Mobile worker combat going on just awhile before?
>>Immediately retreat
She was saved because Mika immediately wrecked her.

But yea It'd be stupid to continue replying to you.
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>>138673586
> Orga
> Not throwing his spaghetti everywhere at the thought of challenging Mika
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>>138674329
This is great did you make this?
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>>138674157
True, I'm just alright if there's less focus on her being useless like what clouded the earlier ones.

>>138674246
>body horror
>not beauty
Tekkadan say they're motivated by revenge, well show them what is the end result of being driven by it.
I wonder if he's bald.
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>>138674329
Well yeah, there's nothing to challenge. Mika's keeping Orga's dumb ass focused on keeping everyone alive and moving forward instead of getting distracted with emotional baggage and worrying about sticking his cock in his accountant.
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>>138674366
>I wonder if he's bald.
I hope so it would look way creepier if he is bald.
He may even rocks that dr.gero coup
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>>138674291
>Did you miss the scene of Mobile worker combat going on just awhile before?
Sorry, are we pretending those are actual combat threats, especially when they aren't shooting and especially for a named commander in a mobile suit?

>She was saved because Mika immediately wrecked her
They'd already lost. That whole thing was a desperate struggle to give themselves an out. No honor at all, and then they expect the enemy to handicap themselves at the next battle?

>But yea It'd be stupid to continue replying to you.
Anon, you're defending the writing on IBO. You're very, very stupid.
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>>138674366
>True, I'm just alright if there's less focus on her being useless like what clouded the earlier ones.
They talked up her two kindergarten level ideas as being brilliant and then she literally said she wants to become hope. She needs to die, she's an atrocious character.
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>>138673936
he is a char clone after all
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>>138674462
Where did this whole hope shit come from? I skipped Dort and only returned when they crushed Ein before Earth.
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I hope Ein kills the space rats.

Or at least a majority of them.
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>>138674618
Hopefully in front of Mika.
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>>138674418
>That whole thing was a desperate struggle to give themselves an out. No honor at all, and then they expect the enemy to handicap themselves at the next battle?
Is this what happens when you watch anime on drugs?
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>>138674575
Fumitan's hilariously bad death episode.
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>>138674655
>Uh-Oh, he called me out
>Better stop talking about the show entirely
It's ok, you tried. Next time just stick to watching shitty anime and don't try to discuss it here.
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>>138674726
wait were people expecting her to know how to fight?
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>>138674767
No, we were just hoping she wouldn't die protecting Kudelia after their first encounter after she left because it was painfully obvious. The Joan of Arc thing was icing on the cake.
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>>138669416
>Go Ein, slaughter kids for your revenge!
>Fuck Tekkadan and their MUH REVENGE
Did you forget Ein is more revenge-crazy than the kids?
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Is Relena Peacecraft as bad as Kudelia? I want to watch Wing and after this show and Heroic age I've had my fix of princess dicksucking.
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>>138674990
worse if you can believe it
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>>138674954
Who gives two shits about Tekkadan and the "Muh Revenge" kids?
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>>138675010
How?
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>>138674954
Can't sympathize with Tekkadan as they're all uncivilized bloodthirsty mercenaries from space Africa
Can't sympathize with Ein either.
Can sympathize with Gaelio.

So I hope Ein delivers karma to them.
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>>138675038
I just find the double standard amusing.
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just watched the latest episode, holy shit that was brutal

how do we fix tekkadan?
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>>138675091
she is an even bigger retard without the few redeeming traits that kudelia has
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>>138675149
Redeeming traits means boobs, right? Because that's the only thing Kudelia has going for her.
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>>138675181
that and she's semi aware of how useless she is
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>>138675091
Kudelia's just naive but still tries to learn in-between "I'm so useless" pity party sessions.

Relena is a hypocrite who never learns, never tries to learn, is a slave to a dead man's pacifistic ideal but is perfectly willing to let others fight to fulfill it while claiming the credit herself without even understanding her role in their sacrifice, and is literally the most self-absorbed peace princess in anime history. Even Lacus at least considered lives over ideology; Relena never does.
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>>138674954
>>138675106
He's pathetic, yet honestly I want to see this conclusion end well for him at least.
Due to plot,man was a retard and treated like shit, now he's Psycho Graze man getting to live out his fantasy.
Meanwhile tekkadan goes Ein-level due to biscuit despite having several losses before and the need to not confront GH to complete their job. A bit of emotional irrationality
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>>138666803
She survived.
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>>138675246
Don't think so, scooter. Barbatos claimed her soul.
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>>138675106
Ein will die anyway, people just want to see casualties from both sides,

>>138675149
>>138675220
Well shit, no Wing for me then. Thanks anyway.
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i like iron blooded orphans

people are literally complaining about a bunch of spoiled kniight brats acting like spoiled knighty brats.

they got killed like they should have.

how is this bad writing? people doing dumb things because of they're upbringing and how they were raises is not bad writing.

fuck /m/ and their autism.
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Why is Orga such a beta faggot guys?
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>>138675389
You're saying you'd stand up against Mika?
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>>138672228
Literally 5 episodes ago.
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why does chocolate friends want all his friends to die?
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>>138675206
Not anymore. She thinks she's the embodiment of hope.
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>>138675348
>Likes IBO
>Types like a retard
Checks out.
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>>138675520
To kill the old gjallarhorn.
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>>138675348
The only bad writing is the adult characters except for the old man trying to admonish Tekkadan for their goals and methods. Mika was 100% right, there was no reason for them to accept that duel, I don't know why those three were even retarded enough to think that leaving their cockpits would be a good idea.
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>>138675527
I thought she was just trying to become a symbol of hope
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>>138675574
Pottery. Bravo Okada.
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>>138675584
I don't see anything bad writing about the blondie girl trying to make children act like children.
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>>138675333
>watching Gundam anything for the girls

Wing has other qualities, it's just the politics that dive into retardsville. The teenage terrorist angle was working out pretty well until the focus shifted. Plus, '90s /fa/ mixed with some 18th century uniforms for OZ are worth seeing just for the "what the fuck?" experience.
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>>138675333
>watching Gundam for anything but the villains feelings and ideologies
What the fuck?

>literally watching gundam for underage girls
Seriously, what the fuck dude?
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carta was 17? the fuck?
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>>138675717
>child soldiers
>acting like regular ones
>after all the shit they have been through
She should know better at this point.
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>>138675730
>Girls
Peace princesses aren't "girls", they're Gods, they're worshipped by everyone, and whoever doesn't approve of their ideals is a little shit. You didn't watch Hirai Age? Good for you.
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>>138675456
This let's be honest, the guy is inestable, most would be afraid of being near him, challenge him is out of question
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>>138672587
Friday.
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>>138675220

Relena Peacecraft is the Hillary Clinton of Gundam, and most of the criticism about her in this thread basically drills her for being a political chameleon. As a human being, she grows as a person from a naive schoolgirl to a vengeful crusader to an underdog political revolutionary. But as a politician, she realizes how powerful words and ideals are compared to weapons of war and turns herself into the anti-establishment figurehead.

She doesn't believe in pacifism, shes just using it to destabilize the establishment. She doesn't believe that war is evil, shes just using this stance to stop the war economy. Shes smart, she adapts, and the way she learns to confront her enemies drives home the central theme of Gundam Wing as a populist revolution.

In this manner, Lady Une evolves from a mere bureaucratic stooge to a policy maker; and Dorothy fails as a political ascendant in embracing the war economy and was reduced to a nameless entrepreneur.
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>>138675584
Even the old man didn't care for Orga's speech at the end. The adult characters were correct. They didn't have to accept the duel, but they should try to tone it down or remain professional. If they continue to go the Mika route the only thing waiting for them at the end is death, which the kids don't see. Naze warned them they would all die if they went this route too.
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>>138675927
Pretty sure she's around McGillis and Gaelio's age, if not older than them by 1-2years
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>>138675982
>she should know better
She is a woman.
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>>138674562

The hero this series truly deserves.
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>>138676040
>Friday
The wait is killing me.
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>>138675584

blondie was telling them to do that to limit casualties.
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>>138674562
What if Mika becomes the badguy next season and Gaile the hero next season?
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>>138676152
>The adult characters were correct. They didn't have to accept the duel, but they should try to tone it down or remain professional.
No they weren't. They had absolutely no obligation or reason to hold back outside of blind idealism, which is always the stupidest idea that can get into someone's head.
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Soon.
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>>138676727
But I already love him!
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>>138673608
Nah, McGillis honestly likes Gaelio. He just likes REFORMATION more~.
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>>138676771
They aren't in some lawless land or the wild west, if you can stop being edgy for a second you'd realize they have 0% chance of survival if they pissed Gjallarhorn enough/or gave them a legit enough excuse for them to actually muster their troops against them. One PMC isn't going to survive taking on the world, they need to play it as nice as they can.
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MIKA NEEDS TO SUFFER FOR HIS CRIMES
FUCK YOU MIKA I HATE YOU
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>>138677590
Sure thing there, buddy.
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>>138677369
>They aren't in some lawless land or the wild west,
They kind of are. The only "law" is a corrupt governing body.

>if you can stop being edgy for a second you'd realize
And if you'd stop being an idiot who thinks pragmatism is edgy you'd realize that Gjallahorn is already trying to kill them, and trusting Gjallahorn will get them nothing but betrayal and death or life in a cell.
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>>138676828
>kills a man in cold blood without letting him finish his last words
>Immediately return to smelling the bracelet because he likes its scent

People think he is not insane
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>>138677683
Look at that face. Pure fucking evil, I tell you
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>>138677809
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>>138678043
Fucker was born evil
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>>138677809
Mika is the savior of Tekkadan
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>>138678851
Mika is a murderer
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>>138675574
>pretending IBO is the only gundam to blatantly rip-off plot points from 0079
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>>138673936
Gotta wonder if his entire motivation is DADDY ISSUES, because so far all his moves haven't done much to give him control over Gallarhorn, but instead focused on foiling his Jamitov-lookin' adoptive father.
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Are people here seriously mad that Mika didn't duel with Carta?
In what fucking world would Mika even do that? Also trying to duel against a mercenary group that has already shown brutal ways of combat is the stupidest thing ever.
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>>138679557

I feel like someone's reading my mind and killing off the only characters I like in this show.
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>no cute images of her hair tail
Its like they went out of their way to show it.
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FFF
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>>138682368
Will never release shit.
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>>138682803
I actually forgot the image for that.
ドゾ
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>>138682803
>>138682872
Fuck. Evertim.
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based Mika did literally nothing wrong
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>>138675574
IS THERE A REASON WHY MCGILLIS IS DOING THIS TO HIS FRIENDS??? WHAT WILL HE GAIN FORM ALL OF THIS?? ISN'T HE IMPORTANT ENOUGH???
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>>138679557
I’m surprised Atra manage to get this far, she always seems like the type of character they kill for cheap drama, well two episodes to go and everything seems to be getting ugly so who knows
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Holy shit how can one antagonist be this cute?
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They'll reunite in the chuuni afterlife, maybe roboEin will find his way there too
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>>138686466
Of course he will, the three of them are part of McGillis fun ride
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>>138675101
>>138669416
Hope this faggot dies the most pathetic death for being a retarded revenge enabler himself.
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>>138675101
What about best girl?
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>>138687003
Can't sympathize with the dead ;_;
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>>138672991
>>138671526
It's a meta joke you. Voicing her Inoue Ikuko has been introducing herself a "Sweet 17" since forever.
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>>138687393
I don't see the problem.
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>>138687003
She was too pure for the world.
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>>138687767
You say that like she's already dead.
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>>138687995
>>138679557
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Carta was a horrible character and I'm glad she's gone.
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>>138675584
Why is nobody talking about how hilariously retarded the blond dude #1 was to continue reprimanding a charging at him Gundam equipped with a giant blunt weapon?
For that alone they all deserved to die. They would just not recognise their situation until the very end. It's an unprecedented level of being up oneselves' ass.
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>>138676374
Why would I want a protagonist who's a spoiled, ignorant and sheltered pawn?
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>>138674401
Maybe if he stuck his cock in the accountant she'd stop moralfagging for two seconds so the child soldiers can get on with child soldier stuff.
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>>138688200
>>>/v/
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Ein confirmed for final boss and a fucking edgelord.

>Gundam's most bloodthirsty final boss
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>>138666803
Why don't mobile suits in this century have air bags or seat belts?
There's been no less than three deaths involving the pilot getting slammed around the cockpit.
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Based Dreadnought Ein will avenge her.
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why isn't this lint eating psycho honoring my duel??????
I only tried to kill his best friend and kill his other friend????????
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>>138688868
Maybe if he stuck his cock in the accountant, he would man up enough to tell Mika enough is enough and end their descent into madness and death
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>>138669416
SUCH A LUST FOR REVENGE
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>>138669416
Ein gonna die dangling outside his robot.
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>>138689649
>Get hired to BTFO Gjallarhorn
>BTFO Gjallarhorn
>NO STOP YOU CAN'T BTFO THEM THAT IS WRONG Y U DO DIS?

Yeah, mercenaries should stop being good at war, what monsters.
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>>138689549
>something something honour
>something something best girl
>something something psyho killer needs to be put down
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>>138689381
Animators trying to sexualize Atra, poor guys
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>Head patriarch recognises that Carta is in no condition to fight despite his misgivings
>McGillis sends off to die regardless

Hahahaha, being Carta and Bauduin is suffering.
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>>138674116
>None of earth Gjallarhorn had real combat experience. 300 years of peace.

Kind of. There's still been pirate groups and what not running around so some have experience. Crank for one was supposed to be an experienced pilot.

Carta's unit officially had no combat experience prior to their orbital battle against Tekkadan though.
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>>138669416
So is Ein the second gundam character to actually become Gundam?
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>>138690151
Not Gundam yet, just a Graze
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>>138684870
>antagonist
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>>138679774
>Are people here seriously mad that Mika didn't duel with Carta?

the waifu factor overwhelms their common sense
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>>138689932

If there was anything to the plot in this series, McGillis is probably plotting with others to allow Tekkaden to destroy a military unit or two and penetrate Earth's airspace so that he can use the reputation of the hardened merciless barbaric Martian butchers to jumpstart the military industrial complex and reinvestment into Martian war relic excavation.
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>>138690151
Apparently the 72 Gundams that ended the Calamity War had pilots undergo the same procedure as Ein, according to Macky's speech about Ein representing the roots of GH and the true, original power of the AV system. If that's the case then plenty of people before became Gundams.
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>>138684324
He's cutting off his dads political power and connections.
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>>138677716
A corrupt government is not the same as the wild west.
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>She liked Mc Gillis that's why she had a harem of blonde haired men
Ohh
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>>138690413
It becomes this when it gets involved in messed up shit like the Dort incident.
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>>138690462
She's been lusting for McGillis cock her whole life where have you been? And she died because McGillis told her to be proud, she tried to play the part fot his sake and got smashed while still slobbering about him. Just another female character defined by her dick lust.
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I feel sorry she's marrying a tyrant.
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>>138690657

She's too pure for this dirty world.
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>>138678851
no battle damaged grazes edit?
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When mika will be doing some corn farmer arc for that soul searching arc?
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>>138666803
Her face is of ugly
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>>138691054
She's beautiful, fuck you.
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>>138690871
>tours a farm for a while
>realizes farm life is boring as hell after what he's been through
>goes back to crushing pilots in their cockpits
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I really want Shino to survive this. If this gets a second season their MS fleet will get awfully dull without his antics and hot pink mech. I've never seen a Mobile Suit quite like the Ryusei-Go.
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>>138689102
Ahh, shit. Good luck, orphans.
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>>138675574
POTTERY
BRAVO OKADA
GUNDAM IS SAVED
MAKE GUNDAM GREAT AGAIN

Such a hack.
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>>138689102
I can't wait for the disappointing fight.
>most bloodthirsty
He looks like a kitty compared with Jerid "I will gas this colony in my spare time" Messa.
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>>138691547
Sounds more like you want mass murder instead of a good fight to me.
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>>138669045
[I AM WELL BROTHERS]
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>>138669045
So is he gundam
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>>138691623
He's an experiment.
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>>138691623
He is graze.
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How can anyone like such a horribly designed character?
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>>138691736
It's what lies beneath they say, except her personality is shit as well.
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Since they won't able to animate pilot's reactions in Ein's case, they will have to focus more on the machine, which sounds good.
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>>138674246
>>138674366
>>138674414
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>>138691840
I'm waiting for the irony of him calling Tekkadan monsters.
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>>138691840
How were they able to get his voice sample so he could talk to Gaelio? Does it mean he can move his mouth?
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>>138691913
A fate worse than death 2bh.
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Time for Gundam Carta and Graze Ein.
And then there was Psycho McGillis
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>>138691913
>not going for full texhnolye with his head attached to a life support bag
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>>138690249
Well she does oppose the primary focus of the story (the child soldiers).
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>>138691913
Christ, why even live at that point?
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>>138692383
To serve.
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>>138692383
He doesn't give a shit. He wants to kill Tekkadan even if only his brain was left. It's if he succeeds or his purpose changes that you'd see the real despair.

He'll probably either get Mika'd eventually or realize he fucked up and die in a heroic sacrifice.
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>>138692431
>Ein finds out the truth of Crank's death
That'll break him right there. His whole life, everything he has left, is a lie.
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>>138692497
But the truth is that Mika killed him, so he can stil somehow justify it to himself.
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>>138692537
But Mika killed him after he asked to die.
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>>138692552
No, he killed him before he could finish saying "Thank you" that means it didn't count.
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>>138692821
Carta is the type of woman that ends up a cake for life.
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How can anyone think of Carta as anything more than a complete and utter idiot? Wouldn't a person of sane mind at least try to have a rough estimate of a combat potential of the person they're about to charge at, and the difference between their potentials? Would a standard, regular anon charging at John Cena with an attempt to fight to the death not be called an idiot?
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>>138692821
Change her eyebrows too.
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Will she also get turned into a dreadnought?
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>>138693084
>every person Galigali loves becomes a Dreadnought
His little sister is next.
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>>138690286
>There will never be an series detailing the Calamity War, the 72 gundams, and the ethics behind turning people into murder bots
>Instead we get a delivery mission that has lasted 24 episodes
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>That sincere thank you Ein gave Galigali
fug man
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I am loving this ride. I want to see mika use the dino grabber to rip ein out his cockpit and shred him to bits.
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>>138693249
This is what you get when you agree for some shady surgery done in Macky's basement without checking or even demanding a clausule what exactly going to be done.
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>>138693285
In hindsight this could be good or bad; if the Graze gets wrecked there's less of Ein to get crushed, but if any more gets crushed who knows what's left to salvage. If the whole thing blows up, that's one dead Ein.

But then he can basically be swapped over to other units probably so long as the AJ system exists on them.
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>>138693330
>yfw Ein's Graze is going to take critical damage and Galigali is going to try to get him out of his cockpit even though he knows its no use because its his life support.
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>>138692383
Someones gotta kill those kids
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>>138693328
>>138693285
I see Terry sold you on the Tijuana Supremo Package.
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>>138689902
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>>138691913
So they have his penis connected to his mouth with a tube.
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BARBATOS
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>>138693999
Stupid sexy Barbatos-chan.
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>>138693969
Well they say that in emergencies, urine is one way of hydration...
that makes it sound like he's slowly dying just by being like that
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>>138692694
Now this really petty and padantic. I bet your a real riot
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>>138692497
There's even more layers to the irony which would blow up his mind even more. Shame Mika couldn't possibly tell him that his corrupt Gjallarhorn superiors are to blame.
I almost feel sorry for the guy, Macky is playing him so hard, and he knows about Coral.
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>>138690657
How old is she supposed to be ?
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>One of the most unique designs
>Gets killed dishonorably by Dark Determination Mika
this is the only character death that bothered me so far
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Friendly reminder that Atra will win the Kudelia bowl.
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>>138694842
>muh honor in war
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>>138694901
>implying
Kudelia will marry the Revolution and die a virgin.
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mika will marry the revolution and die a hero

kudelia will go back to plant corm seeds in atra's fertile field
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>>138694920
>war
these are little shit PMC boys on the run, challenging them to a duel is stupid in the first place but Mika smashing cockpits is gross
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>>138694842
>One of the most unique designs
>Gets killed dishonorably by ugly retarded HAG
Biscuit's death was the only death which bothered me so far.
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>>138694972
shouldn't you be in school?
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>>138694989
biscuit has just been a boring drama rod for the sole purpose of drama
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>>138694989
It's okay, anon. They can make him better once they get back.
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>>138695015
shouldn't you be eating out ass?
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>>138695018
And what the fuck was Carta other than a retarded drama queen? They even managed to stuff some romance melodrama in there.
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>>138695054
She wasn't even introduced that far back either.
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How about some alternate hairstyles for the second season? I want to see Kudelia in a bob cut and Atra with long hair.
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>>138694842
Go to the archive and read the four 500+ threads we've had about this which will explain to you why your stance on this is retarded.
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>>138695149

You should read this reply instead, I know that stance is retarded.
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>>138695100
>Kudelia in a bob cut
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>>138666803

> She actually thinks Anyone in Tekkadan would agree to an "honorable" duel

Was she retarded? Even if she didn't know that one of their higher up members had died, they're fucking children who basically worked as expendable attack dogs their whole lives, they wouldn't give a rats ass about honorable fighting.
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>>138695243
Cut off the ridiculous mane if you want to be a serious politician, girl.
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>>138695018
And people are making a fuss over Carta who's entire character is being deceived by Chocolate man to run straight to suicide then getting murdered while being stupid.
And now everyone is calling Tekkadan "muh revenge" monsters for killing someone who literally went straight to them and demanded a fight.
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>>138695260
>cutting off your sole redeeming trait
Kudelia's hair is more of a character than Kudelia herself, if she loses that, she might disappear.
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>>138695271
Even though that cockpit smash was Mika's minute reaction to the guy attempting to wreck the rails and he was visibly reeling from it.
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>>138695260
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Do you know what I'd do? I'd wait for them all to come out of their MS, snipe them down and claim three intact Grazes.
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>>138695402

Really, it's almost embarassingly dumb that they actually thought child soldiers would agree to an honorable duel, to the point of standing outside of your machine.

Makes it seem like they deserved the beating they got for being so up their own asses.
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>>138695402
No point in having additional MS if you have no one to put on them.
See Shino.
>jobbed to Ein twice
>barely hanging on a 1 on 1 against one of Carta's chumps and end up having Orga shwo himself to save his ass from blowing on their own trap and basically getting Biscuit killed for that
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>>138695689
Spare parts come in handy.

>having Orga shwo himself to save his ass from blowing on their own trap and basically getting Biscuit killed for that
Orga was already there when they saw him standing on th trap. There's nothing in the sequence tying these two events together. In fact, if Orga didn't send him off to help Akihiro maybe Biscuit would still be alive.
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>>138666803
This is the dead favorite female character thread?
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>>138694722

Nine
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>>138695811
I guess, he's still useless though.
Pretty sure something next episode is going wront thanks to him with roboEin as Ein could easily beat him even when he was normal.
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>>138695929
He's not useless, even while having about as much experience as Carta's goons, he was still wrecking them just fine. And going against two at one time.
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>>138695487
Or how they were going on their aristocrat tirade, berate Mika and rant about Carta's superiority, all while getting stomped on. Completely delusional bunch.
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>>138666803
Another one Jobs to dust.
At this point I am not surprised.
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>>138695929
>Ein could easily beat him even when he was normal.
The first time I didn't see any drastic difference in their abilities. The second time he had the rope, even Mika was struggling against a rope at one point. Apparently to win against a gundam it's good to have a rope.
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I expect Mika caising destructiom of Tekkadan and Orga joining McGillis Gjallarhorn. Once Orga finds out Mika is manipulating him I think he'll grow a spine and kill him.
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Soon.
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>>138690871

Mika's done soul-searching, and he's realized that he REALLY, REALLY LIKES killing people.
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>>138696594
like that gay /fit/ joker pirate said before dying
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>>138674954
Ein was worse until he took the blow for Gaelio.

Ein dropped revenge in a second to save Gaelio because Gaelio still had pride. Ein and Gaelio still had feelings towards something greater.

Tekkedan deals with people just as corrupt and don't care while trying to start a world war so said corrupt people can take over.
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>>138695100

Shino definitely looks generic with his short hair at least. At first was very shocked to find he was the third pilot for the group, had thought Eugene would have been.
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>>138695865
Stop it, she could have been a mother to him.
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>>138689308
>>138689326
>>138689344
>>138689361
Delicious.
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What kind of stupid twist will they useto make McGillis appear with his red suit at the end ? Also Gaelio needs a proper fight with his Gundam before the series is over.
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>>138694972
pretty much this,

Tekkedan isn't really backed by a country or nation at this point in time unless you count Teiwaz which hasn't been stomped by Gjallarhorn so they aren't openly backing them.
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>>138696867
I liked that for once not all the speshul aesthetic snowflakes were hogging the spotlight. Also for a military group, nobody but Shino seems to care about wearing propper military haircuts.
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>>138695149
Those threads never came to a consensus.

>>138695258
They agreed to a duel in the past.
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>>138696594
Also the exiled dude said the same thing about Tekkedan.
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>>138697142
>They agreed to a duel in the past.
They're in a hurry now
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>>138697169
>believing anything evild adults say
He was pretty okay with Mika clearing the road through, the hypocrite.
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>>138697142
If you think waifufags would ever cede because they've been presented with resonable arguments, you're sadly mistaken.
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>>138669045
When he dies the light in his camera is going to go out the same way the light in Carta's eyes went out

and people will still try and argue it doesn't mean he's dead
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>>138696867
>>138697114
You don't need a fancy hairstyle when you have a face this handsome. At least outside of the QUALITY realm.
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>>138667995
so what exactly is the whole thing behind this?
mika/tekka planned an ambush for when they got out of their mechs?
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>>138697347
Kudelia is sex.

SEX!
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Am I doing it right?
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>>138697399
MIKA MAD

MIKA SMASH
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>>138697311
>>138691913
>>138689102

Yamagi should start making more fireworks now that Ein is fully robocop and in final boss mode.
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>>138697399
No, Orga didn't get to give any orders. Mika just charged on his own, because fuck them.
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>>138696933
I wish she could have been a mother to me too
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>>138697399
>mika/tekka planned an ambush for when they got out of their mechs?
No, mika knew they had to get to the city and fast and said fuck this

The end result would have been the same either way. There's no way Carta's team would have won a 3v3
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>>138697311
>large, droopy chestnut eyes
>good smile
>strong jaw line
If Norba wore his hair long, it wouldn't be fair for other Tekkadans.
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Is there a series where an enemy is killed by a Gundam finger flick?
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>All these edgy muh war fags

They're mercenaries, and it's not a war. Their survival depends on looking like the good guys or being able to claim self defense for everything. As unfortunate as it is for them they can't be the first ones to attack. By killing 3 Gjallarhorn officers outside of their mechs who were talking to them they potentially fucked themselves over.

We'll have to see how the next episodes play out to see if McGillis bails them out or uses it against them.
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People love QUALITY Atra
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>>138697436
They've made such a huge deal out of Biscuit's death, that if any other named Takkadan died at this point, it'd feel like brushing their death aside because gotta keep fighting for Biscuit. It'd be unfair, that's why I don't see it happening.
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>>138696532

> Orga joining Gjallarhorn
> The people who killed a bunch of his friends and comrades
Sure.

> Mika is manipulating him
He really isn't, when they were talking on the boat Mika was just trying to get Orga to stop wallowing in Biscuits death because they still have shit to do and he can't just give up.

Closest thing to manipulation there was is Mika subtly reminding Orga how he pretty much passed down all the responsibility/burden of a lot of murders down onto him for the sake of their future, and he won't let Orga give up now otherwise that would have all been for nothing.
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>>138697650
Mika definitely manipulated him on the train
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>>138697399
Carta and two of her men blocked the train with their ms, got out of their cockpits, and demanded a duel with 3 of tekkadan's ms while saying that they'll give tekkadan 30 minutes to prepare.

Mika said fuck that and launched before they had even finished talking.
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>>138697509
>>138697311
>>138696550
>>138695100
>All Yamagay
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>>138697584

I'm glad they kept it in the BD's.
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>>138697578
No matter what they do, no matter how they act. They've long been on Gjallarhorn's shitlist by now. And in case you missed the dialogue between Carta and Iznario, Gjallarhorn will do ANYTHING to stop them from getting Makanai to the elections. So playing nice will get them nowhere.

As for three officers dying, it seemed like they didn't give a damn. Mcgillis even made a point that it'd be easier for Iznario if Carta died on the island because her living left a stain on her family name's honour,
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>>138697706
Imagine if Shino got "killed" and Yamagi rebuild him into the Ryuuseigo like Ein.
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>>138697706
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>>138697680
Are you one of those people who insist that Mika lied to Orga about what Biscuit said?
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>>138697578

>>138697578

> They're mercenaries, and it's not a war
It doesn't really matter, they're two opposing forces acting largely outside the law, the rules still basically apply and they didn't have the time to dick around to satisfy Carta's need for 'muh noble combat'. They have a job to do and Gjallarhorn is trying to kill them for it, they don't need to entertain her ego.

> By killing three Gjallarhorn officers outside of their mechs

Only one was killed outside of his mech, the other guy and Carta got into theirs before Mika reached them. And anyway, who the hell would know that Carta challenged them to a duel? Everyone there on Gjallarhorns side is dead.
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>>138697702
i just find this amusing with all drama there was about mika shooting a guy early on in the series
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>>138697740
That's fucked up, Yamagi isnt as evil as chocolate char
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>>138697815
>It doesn't really matter, they're two opposing forces acting largely outside the law, the rules still basically apply
One is the world peacekeeper/law enforcement with treaties with every economic bloc. The other is a mercenary company who has acted in self-defense in every other skirmish. The economic blocs can protect them if they don't give Gjallarhorn a legal reason to enforce.

Though I get the feeling >>138669394
is going to happen. He'll lie to Gaelio that they had the go ahead from the economic bloc then use it as proof that Gjallarhorn is acting above their legal authority.
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>>138697410
I can only stare at Atras Ass.
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>>138697791
The episode was full of lies with the "final lie" being done by Gaelio during Carta's death
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>>138698101

It could still very easily be seen as self defense on Tekkadans part. Challenge or not, Carta's forced confronted them first and declared that they would fight', she's still the instigator. Mika attacked first and took them out because they didn't want or need to fight on Carta's terms, she showed up with an inferior force and just expected Tekkadan to go along with what she wanted, when they had absolutely no reason to follow what she asked of them.

Besides, had Mika not acted, it seemed like everyone else just thought they'd sent a bunch more mechs out and beat them up with superior numbers, again, because they dont have time to screw around.
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>Tfw Graze Ein eventually totaled trying to protect Gaelio
>Ein barely survives
>Gaelio is dead too
>Chocochar helps give Ein another chance
>Ein foregoes the Graze Ein and comes back as Gundam Ein
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>>138698206
Funny enough the "final lie" ended up been a white lie
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>>138698206
The series has been very very blatant about showing things like that to make it obvious without a doubt to the viewer. I mean we knew Kudelia's supporter was out to kill her from the beginning, Fumitan was a traitor, McGillis is plotting against Gjallarhorn, the workers riot being a set up, etc. The series makes these underhanded things very obvious and is about as subtle at them as a brick to the face.

If Mika was intended to have lied in that scene they would have shown what Biscuit had really said before that to make it obvious he was lying. That and Mika hasn't been portrayed as a liar at all throughout the entire series and it doesn't fit with his character.
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>>138693084
I am going to be extremely surprised if this doesn't happen. With her being a lot more known and important than Ein I don't know how it could be done though.
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>>138698804
>>138698781
I don't understand.
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>>138699286
Same here, is that info of the Phycho Graze?
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>>138670332
Also remember that Earthlings really are grossed out by cyber implants, if it leaks out that Ein was turned into a Graze there's going to be major outrage.

And of course McGillis's name won't be anywhere near the official paperwork that had to be filled. Ein was Gaelio's subordinate.
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>>138692821
>can pull on her hair while doing doggiestyle
>can pull on her hair while doing deepthroat
>can choke her with her hair while doing loving missionary
She's perfect. If only she was less ugly.
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>>138699620
Everyone is dancing in McGillis hand right now, we also have no idea what are McMurdo and Nobliss plotting
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>>138700513
>>138700471
>>138700427
>>138700402
>>138700546
Don't. Yu can read all of them on danbooru translated.
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>>138698133
Atra ass is amazing and everything but you can't deny that Kudelia is SEX!
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>>138697849
Love knows no bounds. And Yamagi seems like the sort of /m/an who loves his /m/echs, being an engineer and all.
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>>138700610
If Norba loses a limb he'll build him prosthetics so he can do piloting like he normally would have, but that's about it. I don't think anyone at Teiwaz has the kind of technology to do full integration.
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>>138700592
>Kudelia will never ride my dick while Atra is sitting on my face and Merribit is crying in the corner
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>>138698804
>>138698781

Translation please?
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>>138700752
>A certain masked businessman offers to save the life of your comrade
>Accept
>Do not Accept
choose
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Gundam is dead

According to gunota only barbatos sold well, the rest is shit
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>>138701129

>17 tv series
>12 ova series
>3 movies

You should see the Turn A Gundam sales seventeen years ago too.
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>>138701113
Not everyone is Gaelio levels of stupid.
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>>138701129
Don't worry Unicorn will save gundam again next season

as they already did when AGE flopped
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>>138701129
I bought one of each graze variant, I thought everyone grazed their flag?
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>>138701129
>According to gunota
?
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>>138666803
>hurr fight me in honorable duel

So where was this "honor" when she trashed a fleeing mobile worker that wasn't fighting back?
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>>138690413
>a land with corrupt laws that don't protect people isn't the same as a lawless land
Yes it is, idiot.
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>>138701749
Together with waifufags's intelligence
>waifuing a 3 episodes secondary character who's only achievement is being played by local chocolate man and destroying a shitty car
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>>138701749
>Tank with the enemy commander actively directing the fight
>Biscuit dindu nothin he a good boy, go to church every day tryin to turn his life around.
You know of the many valid arguments you could bring up against her actions, that isn't one of them.
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>>138701749
>>138702063
>>138702180
I want to believe you're just pretending to be retarded.
But
>>138702063
makes me think you should be in school right now
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>>138702644
the same fucking shit every time.
It was a valid decision in a battlefield, but in no way was it honorable.
Just like Mikazuki murdering them all like he did was a valid decision, it's not like he backstabbed them or anything of the like.
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>>138702768
>cartafag trying to sound smug and completely failing
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>>138703060
He accuses everyone of samefagging all day.
I must say he's quite good at this, he's just liker her.
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>>138677716
>They kind of are. The only "law" is a corrupt governing body.

All government are corrupt at some level.
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>>138703035
Its really a false equivocation.
One is an action taken during a fight where they were armed and involved.
One was taken during an invocation to customs both sides had taken part in.
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>>138703310

> On some level

And this is a harsh level.
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>>138703310
There's a big difference between being corrupt and murdering a whole group of protesters like Gallajhorn did.
There's no reason for Tekkadan to follow their "law" when they have seen such things happen in person.
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>>138703393
>One was taken during an invocation to customs both sides had taken part in.
You're not serious are you.
Please tell me you're not.
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>>138703393
Let's not forget that the fight on the island was an ambush over a diplomatic asylum pulled by breaching international agreements because of her position in Gjallarhorn. She barged in to mend her broken pride and used her connections to do so.
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>>138703552

And it's not even specifically Gallajhorns law, Carta just had her head up her ass and thought she needed the battle to be noble so it would suit her. No one told her to go challenge Tekkadan to a duel, probably because they knew that, as child soldiers/mercenaries, they probably wouldn't give a shit about some rich girls ego or the notion of fighting honorably.
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>>138703552
>There's a big difference between being corrupt and murdering a whole group of protesters like Gjallarhorn did.
Protestors were armed, had been involved in violence and were threatening further violence at that point.

Gjallarhorn was wrong for giving them the weapons, for framing them for shooting first, but not for shooting first.
Teiwaz and Mars were also involved but you don't see them mentioning them.

>There's no reason for Tekkadan to follow their "law" when they have seen such things happen in person.
That was a custom not a law.

However throwing that away isn't a good idea.

>>138703667
>Let's not forget that the fight on the island was an ambush over a diplomatic asylum pulled by breaching international agreements because of her position in Gjallarhorn. She barged in to mend her broken pride and used her connections to do so.

The diplomatic asylum was given because they fucked one of the area's economy the purpose for the asylum was just as corrupt as Gjallarhorn. Their purpose there was to escort an exile and seem like they are about to lay siege to a city.
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>>138703752
>McGillis
>Kill them all, McGillis
>purge the corruption


He's the real MC. That's why Mika can break anime laws.
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>>138704078
>but not for shooting first.
Are you some kind of Gjallarhorn apologist? In no way were they in the right for shooting first.

Until we know why exactly Makanai was exiled, we could just as well assume it was to allow Henri Fleur to win the elections.
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>>138704357
Are you some kind of Gjallarhorn apologist? In no way were they in the right for shooting first.

No I said that the entrapment was wrong, and lying about shooting first was wrong.

The protestors gave probable cause that they would use firearms. That would essentially give them the right to shoot first.

>Until we know why exactly Makanai was exiled, we could just as well assume it was to allow Henri Fleur to win the elections.

Because Makanai doesn't seem corrupt at all. He definitely isn't bringing a battle to the capital of his country for personal gains.
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>>138703035
>Killing people outside their mechs who are attempting to negotiate some terms is the same as attacking an enemy tank actively participating in a battle

Are you seriously this retarded? There was nothing dishonorable in her action of targeting the enemy commander.
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>>138701129

Where are you getting your info? On japanese gunpla blogs and plamo forums the graze has been very popular. As has grimgerde.
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>>138697142
How stupid are you to think the last duel was anything like this? They were grounded with no support and didn't know when their enemy would show up or with how many soldiers. A one on one duel with their one fighter (Mika) was the only possible way for them to not die, so of course it feel into their laps.
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>>138704499
>Are you seriously this retarded?
Are you? Because you seem to naively believe those "negotiations" would mean jack shit, when they would not! Do you, in all seriousness believe Carta had any kind of political power to promise them anything when her foster father essentially told her to GTFO a few hours prior?

It would be really fucking neat if Cartafags laid out their agenda instead of resorting to taking particular actions of both sides out of the broader context and dissecting those in her favour. Because like this it could go on forever.
You are definitely being apologetic of Gjallarhorn and pretty much telling Tekkadan should give up and go back to Mars so they don't break any more Gjallarhorn's "rules" and will be allowed a safe return.
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>>138704644
Its really not the type of thing you're supposed to cherry pick in the manner that they did.
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>>138703552
>There's no reason for Tekkadan to follow their "law" when they have seen such things happen in person.
Are you saying they shouldn't follow the laws just because Gjallarhorn did something naughty by allowing people, who were already planning terrorism, to get their hands on faulty weapons so they could easily be disposed of legally? They don't have to surrender to Gjallarhorn or participate in duels, but if they lets say, attack a Gjallarhorn facility any protection Tekkadan had would be lost. That is why it's not the wild west. Currently it's a branch of Gjallarhorn trying to enforce their own will without Tekkadan being officially criminals.

OF course Tekkadan doesn't know this because they grew up in the lawless Mars sphere but Naze did warn them about it
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>>138704492
>The protestors gave probable cause that they would use firearms. That would essentially give them the right to shoot first.
That still doesn't make it right to execute them in such manner.
>the suspect could probably shoot at us, so we emptied our magazines in his chest just in case things don't go south
Spoken like a true American police officer.
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And why not? They only agreed to it the first time because they were massively outgunned and couldn't win against a real gjallarhorn force. What's more, they won and Gjallarhorn still kept coming after them so in their eyes these duels mean jack shit.

So when Carta challenged them, they are now the ones with the advantage, they know that a promise from gjallarhorn means fuck all, and they never even agree to have a duel with her in the first place. By the looks of it they were actually prepping to blow her off and launch all 5 of their ms even before Mika jumped the gun and launched.
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>>138702768
Talking down on people only works when you can sound smarter and more reasonable than they are. You're just an idiot.
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>>138704796
>Are you? Because you seem to naively believe those "negotiations" would mean jack shit
They don't have to amount to anything, nor have I stated they would.

It's hilarious how you're changing the subject
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>>138703310
That's like trying to say the Japanese government having Yakuza ties makes then corrupt the same way North Korea is corrupt.
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>>138689102
Kill count?
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>>138704982
>That still doesn't make it right to execute them in such manner.
They refused to disarm so it makes it perfectly fine.

>the suspect could probably shoot at us, so we emptied our magazines in his chest just in case things don't go south
>Spoken like a true American police officer.

Are you expecting officers to react after they have been shot?
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>>138705080
Ahh nice IBO has it's very own super autist like the one that plagued madoka, symphgear, and asterisk threads.

IBO confirmed success
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>>138703393
>try to ambush then on the island
>try to storm the residential area
>fail at mobile suit combat, resort to thrashing a harmless mobile worker because an enemy is exposed on it and then immediately retreat
>"Come on guys, we just want an honorable duel, so ignore your tactical advantage and play into my ideas of honor and pride so I can impress my crush! "
Just how fucking stupid are Cartafags? I don't like Mika at all, but anyone pretending he acted wrong and that the holier than thou and contradictory bullshit the adults spew to establish the "the kids are wrong and it of control!" is correct are brain dead.
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>>138705229
I'd expect them not to fire tank and assault rifle rounds into a crowd while civilians are mixed in/in the line of fire.
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>>138704078
>Gjallahorn wasn't wrong for shooting first when their opposition wanted to negotiate
>But Mika was
Are you fucking kidding?
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>>138705307
How many times are you going to post the same bait in one thread?
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>>138705339
>I'd expect them not to fire tank and assault rifle rounds into a crowd while civilians are mixed in/in the line of fire.
So you're expecting them to wait to be shot?
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>>138705279
What the fuck are you on about? Just stop posting.
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>>138705420
Serious question: are Cartafags trolls or are you actually retarded?
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>>138705384
Mika was working as law enforcement in front of a civilian building.

Carta asking for the duel was essentially goodwill.
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>>138705565
So we're going to ignore that the workers didn't actually shoot, and a fake explosion was used to justify a massacre that the government premeditated?
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>>138705279
Pretty sure it's the stellafag. He came back just in time for Asterisk S2 and his style is similar.
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>>138705622
read >>138704492
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>>138705701
Are you talking about that ESL shitposter who's in every LNshit thread at the same time and tries to incite fanbase wars?
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>>138704936
>people, who were already planning terrorism
They were NOT planning any terrorism, the guns were for show with negotiations being the main goal, they never intended to shoot. Not to mention that the entire thing was a setup right from the get go, even the guns were part of it.

As for Tekkadan ever having any protection, this is a joke. You could see how flimsy it was. And how at any given moment, some individual at Gjallarhorn who may want to attack them, WILL attack them regardless of any diplomatic protections they could have had. This essentially makes it similar to the Wild West, because there's no unity over any laws. It's whims of some higher GH officers that constitutes the rules. Where a whim of an individual can overrule practically any law, you live in a de facto lawless state.

Another thing
>raising your flags against the authority is a recurring theme in the show
>bloo bloo but why aren't they abiding the law??
You're kind of wrong genre savvy in this argument if you're trying to make a legal case out of this. As I showed above, both Mars and Earth Sphere are for all intents and purposes lawless states.
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>>138705747
But that post is a complete load of bullshit.
>The entrapment and false explosion were wrong, but the workers probably would have shot first anyways so it's ok
That's not how this works.

Please tell me you're not one of the idiots defending Carta and saying Mika was wrong.
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>>138705422
I see. It was clearly pre meditated self defense. Totally justifies faking the first shot and massacring a street full of people (including using a smokescreen so the reporters can't film all the people dying or how badly the union was getting slaughtered to make them seem like a bigger threat). Especially while the union was just asking to negotiate at the time.
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>>138691913
at least he immortal now so that's good
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>>138705845
Workers had shot first in a prior incident.

>Please tell me you're not one of the idiots defending Carta and saying Mika was wrong.
Carta is retarded and Mika is an ass.


>>138705904
No they had already killed soldiers in the hangar.

Union had actually shot first in a prior incident and now they never intended to use firearms.
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>>138705384
He's spewing bullshit that sounds like it's been cooked up in the depths of Regulatory Bureau. GH police knew the the protesters weren't going to shoot, they were all in on it. Prevention in a mute argument in this case.
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>>138705565
> Carta asking for the duel was essentially goodwill

Except she came to them with inferior numbers.
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>>138706068
>GH police knew the the protesters weren't going to shoot, they were all in on it.
They had already shot in at an earlier time.
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>>138706022
His remaining organs will still deteriorate with time. And even brain cells can't live forever.
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>>138706121
She could have just put a bomb under the tracks.
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>>138706144
that sucks
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>>138706140
Because they wanted to keep the guns, the division which managed the protest suppression knew of their plans beforehand.
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>>138706039
>Workers had shot first in a prior incident
Oh I guess that justifies lying and manipulating the media. I'm sure the last incident wasn't a set up either.

>>138706068
Maybe it's Mackies dad or something?
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All of this could be easier if you faggots could separate between legal arguments, ethical arguments and efficiency arguments. You can be right in one area but wrong in the other.
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>>138706140
During a planned set up with guns they themselves provided through Nobliss.
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>>138706169
She's too up her own ass with pride and honor to do that

She went there with three mechs and expected to fight three mechs, that's not good will considering her character, that's just her idea of a fair and honest fight, which was what she wanted, even though it would be obvious to anyone with a brain that Tekkadan wouldn't accept that
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>>138706169
She could have but Macky put the idea in her head that it doesn't suit her, because he wanted her dead most likely. Mika may have executed her but Mika, too, was playing into Macky's scheme.
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>>138706276
>>138706247
>>138706211
They would have been innocent had they just surrendered at that point however they fucking shot first.

Just because there was an entrapment scheme going on doesn't mean they didn't open fire.

One wrong doesn't justify the other to do something wrong. In fact I would argue that killing those few officers was worse than the entrapment.
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>>138705806
>They were NOT planning any terrorism
The people with the faulty weapons were. The guy planning the negotiation said it himself. I'm not talking about the ones who got gunned down in the street, but the ones who stole rigged mobile suits and ships.

>where a whim of an individual can overrule practically any law, you live in a de facto lawless state.
Gjallarhorn didn't overrule any laws, they conducted their business in a lawful evil manner. Even backing out when the bloc that Dort belongs to told them to.
Carta's attack on the island was possible because of her influence, similar things have happened in reality and I'm pretty sure we're not in a lawless state.

I think you're confusing GTA/videogames for reality.
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>>138706329
I still find it silly she thought she even had a chance in a 3v3 when in her two previous like 12-20 versus 5 she still got badly beaten.
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>>138706382
>The guy planning the negotiation said it himself.
The guy planning the negotiation already lost control in the hangar.
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>>138706381
They didn't fire first. What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>138706437
In the hangar when they first opened the firearm containers and the soldiers immediately stormed in and told them to disarm they did.
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>>138666803
If you think Tekkan did anything wrong by killing her you are the worst kind if moralfag
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>>138706437
They did in the hangar with the assault rifles.

That alone would have been reason enough to wipe them out, Gjallarhorn wanted it to be on air though to trigger the terrorists into moving.
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>>138706437
He's talking about the set up in the hangar when the workers panicked and shot up a couple Gjallarhorn.
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>>138706411
Who knows, she may have had delusions of grandeur or perhaps thought that having 'elites' pilot the other mech would turn the tide in a smaller battle.

Still hilarious though that they were so confident that Tekkadan would accept the duel that they were just standing outside of their mechs, it's just embarrassing.
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>>138706382
>The people with the faulty weapons were. The guy planning the negotiation said it himself. I'm not talking about the ones who got gunned down in the street, but the ones who stole rigged mobile suits and ships.
This wouldn't have happened in the public shooting hadn't happened. Which was part of the plan, rill them up and instigate uprising in the colonies.

>>138706381
>They would have been innocent had they just surrendered at that point however they fucking shot first.
Oh would you stop harping about everyone surrendering to Gjallarhorn? This is a series about a bloody revolution, people are going to fight against the tyranny throughout its course, just deal with it.
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>There is a mentally unstable person.
>I know that if I leave a knife where he can find it and then agressively confront him he will try to stab me.
>I do the above intending it to happen.
>He stabs me.
>I blow his head off.

I was justified, he stabbed me first.
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>>138706645
>Oh would you stop harping about everyone surrendering to Gjallarhorn? This is a series about a bloody revolution, people are going to fight against the tyranny throughout its course, just deal with it.

Then they should be prepared to get shot.
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>>138706497
You mean when Gjallahorn literally stormed their home turf with weapons while they were disorganized?

>>138706562
That absolutely does not justify waiting till negotiation time and then massacring them all. Are you insane?
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>>138706687
Yeah, that's why Tekkadan is driving to Edmonton in Mobile Workers. I hope you don't go on another tirade how that's a illegal thing to do.
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>>138706777
Rolling up to a capital in tanks crewed by child soldiers is the best way to win an election.
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>>138706848
Makanai is the asshole in this case, not Tekkadan.
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>>138706700
>You mean when Gjallahorn literally stormed their home turf with weapons while they were disorganized?
That would be Gjallarhorn doing their job. That would have been perfectly fine if they hadn't been involved with supplying the weapons.
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>>138706700
>You mean when Gjallahorn literally stormed their home turf with weapons while they were disorganized?
Oh hey cops going to arrest people breaking the law didn't give the criminals a heads up that they were on their way.

>That absolutely does not justify waiting till negotiation time and then massacring them all. Are you insane?

Are you? If a group attacks a police station, then marches down the street fully armed, I can't think of a single civilized country in the world that wouldn't have surrounded and opened fire on them. Like do you even live in reality?
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>>138706879
>It would have been fine if they weren't corrupt and scheming
Too bad they were.

>>138706927
Oh hey cops were in on it and are puppets of a corrupt government.

>If a group attacks a police station, then marches down the street fully armed, I can't think of a single civilized country in the world that wouldn't have surrounded and opened fire on them. Like do you even live in reality?
Inaccurate analogy aside, have you ever actually watched the news in your life?
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>>138706927
>If a group attacks a police station, then marches down the street fully armed, I can't think of a single civilized country in the world that wouldn't have surrounded and opened fire on them.
This is how it would look to the onlookers, but GH was perfectly in the know what was actually going on. The workers were acting against their case because they unwittingly agreed to be Noblis' pawns. Although your rhetoric would be exactly what Gjallarhorn would say.
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Gjallarhorns set up and deception at Dort was so good even anon was convinced they were justified.
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>>138670332
How do McGillis' schemes against his father feature into this, though? Framing Gaelio isn't going to harm his father's agenda at all.
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>>138707025
No matter what though no sane force would actively fire into a street full of their own civilians unless combat was currently under way. That's instant suicide for your reputation and jobs as soldiers if it gets out, which is why gjallarhorn used a smokescreen while everyone was still confused.
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>>138707076
Or the arguments are going over your head.

>>138707136
He is engaged to the little sister who would inherit everything if Gaelio died.
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>>138707159
No civilians were in the line of fire
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>>138707136
No, but interfering with his dads plant from getting elected does. As does removing Carta, who through raising he was boosting his own power. Gaelio is also from a family whose connections give his dad power, and discrediting them weakens it further.

One by one he's removing the foundations his fathers power and authority is based around while being the one to uncover this corruption will boost his own.
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>>138707076
>Someone is so stupid they fell for political deception in an Okada show
Damn, that's scary.
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>>138707180
>>138707263
Wouldn't simply getting Gaelio KIA be easier then?
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>>138707354
Using him as thr flagship of Gjallarhorn corruption also casts Gjallarhorn itself in a bad light, and his dad is the one running gjallarhorn. So it both weakens a family who could help him while damaging his own reputation directly at the same time.

Especially with him being the one who officially gave carta the order that got her killed.
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>>138707354
It's what might happen during the Edmonton battle. Macky could sneak in, backstab Gali and sneak out.
He seems to have some greater political plans regarding Gaelio though.
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>>138707025
>This is how it would look to the onlookers, but GH was perfectly in the know what was actually going on
The point is they went for legal justification and they got it.
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>>138707474
It makes perfect sense in universe, but I totally can't see it from a narrative standpoint. What would be the point of making a scapegoat out of a character and then immediately killing them? Establishing the villain?
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>>138707619
Gjallarhorn won anon. Dort workers were played because they were stupid, nobody is arguing otherwise. Doesn't make Gjallarhorn any less corrupted, treacherous and violent.
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>>138707277
Actually if you think about it the people supporting the union are the ones that are going along with what the show wants you to think.
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>>138707619
The point is that it really wasn't legal or justified with it being a set up intended for it to happen. They just worked to make it appear that way until kudelia blowing the lid on it live made the African Union have a panic attack over international fallout from the incident being exposed and ordered the regulatory Bureau stand down.

Which is interesting as Carta's group is actually a division of the regulatory bureau and she attacked them anyways.
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>>138707927
Gjallahorn is blatantly corrupt. There's no two ways about it.

Right now what the show wants us to think is that the kids are doing stuff wrong, and as everyone outside of the crazy Cartafag here has said, that's a load of bullshit.
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>>138708048
At that time the kids were not supposed to look bad, but more like heroes.
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>>138708048
I didn't think the show made the kids to look wrong, more like in a morally grey zone while being backed against a wall. I don't trust a single word that comes out of Makanai's mouth as a word of god. Hope 4chan doesn't color anyone else's perception.
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>>138708048
Part of it is that we are supposed to think the extreme revenge and kill everyone in our way style of thinking is wrong, which it is if you think about it further than this one instance. It is causing them to do just what biscuit was accusing Orga of with recklessly charging into confrontations and is going to result in making everyone their enemy down the road as well as encourage themselves to be even more reckless and hostile as the suceed with it.

They're basically walking down a suicidal path, it's just that these first couple of steps don't seem so bad.
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>>138708091
>>138708169
No I meant this week.

>>138708218
Yes, but that idealist bullshit means nothing when in practice they were completely right here. If they want the audience to think they're wrong, they can't have the "level headed" characters speak in black and white when it doesn't apply.
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>>138708218
You're blowing things out of proportion. What they did was a self preservation tactic, they need the adrenaline boost because they're about to clash with Gjallarhorn for real, for the first time. It's a sort of task-oriented revenge, not for the sake of it.
Don't forget that Biscuit was martyred for this exact purpose, do the kids could motivate themselves with something in awaiting them fight.
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>>138707992
It actually depends on what happened. If Gjallarhorn found out that the union members were looking for illegal weapons then its dubious whether what they did in the docks was entrapment. Either way entrapment isn't a defense.

What they did might not qualify as entrapment if you look at it from a legal perspective depending on the country.

However the act of actually providing the union members was wrong in a different way.

Entrapment in itself is a morally grey area the purpose is to capture criminals. The reason why entrapment is wrong is it will sometimes get the unwary innocent rather than one who intends to do wrong.

Shooting first in a police scenario is a morally grey, but accepted under circumstances. The show had to trigger off a fake explosion by Gjallarhorn to make them look unjustified.

Kudelia's assassination was wrong but not just Gjallarhorn, but everyone was in on it.
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