PSA from the Ministerium für Staatssicherheit
In his speech to the county first secretaries, Comrade Erich Honecker noted that we cannot
ignore the anti-Katja attitudes of the larger part of the citizens of the West Germany.
We therefore need to do everything we can to help West German visitors leave the DDR
wiser than they were when they arrived.
Our most effective way to demonstrate the absurdity of anti-Katjaism is to increase the
influence of Katja and to demonstrate her values and advantages to the entire world,
above all by fulfilling our main task, the unity of Katja and Theo.
Martyrs in anti-terrorist operations conducted today across Berlin;
By law only Genosse Theodore can bully Katia.
Es lebe die Deutsche Demokratische Republik
Wrong as always.
A notice from the Politische Hauptverwaltung
Those so called "martyrs" are nothing more than counter revolutionary traitors who had been judged and executed by the members of the Commissariat
-I decided to do a little post digging on what the Japs thought about the end of SM back before BiS came out. So the above post has some very interesting tidbits that mostly reinforce what we already know. Starting with the first post in this image, you have this very important lines. For instances, the first paragraph states all those who died in the final volume. Iris, Axmann, Beatrix, the stasi chief (Schmidt), Walter, and Sylwia. The rest survived! Gretel was saved by an old classmate she had thought the stasi had purged (so Martin, basically).
-Second line talks about the similiarities between Iris and Beatrix. Both were women willing to sacrifice themselves for Jurgen's ideals (they didn't have a name back then, so they used Iris's brother to refer to him instead). Walter was friends with Jurgen and Jurgen's death was what created Beatrix's grudge.
-The final line mentions Axmann and how he forshadows Theo's transformation into the Master.
Note that this was all way before BiS started (the posts were made back in 2014 when SM ended), so all this should be in the anime if it wasn't a shit adaptation.
t. phony imperialist agitator
>nothing of value
She made all those stasi, other Germans, Poles and their Soviets very happy.
Alright, so skipping the second post, the third post is a response to the first. Theo's "But even so, I still wanted to protect you" are actually arc words in the LN, seemingly directed at Iris. I guess the anime changed it to Katia.
The second paragraph refers to Beatrix's goals. Beatrix apparently had a martyr-complex going on that was even bigger then Irisdina. She wanted to reform the DDR into a roadblock for the BETA to buy everyone else time. She did ultimately prioritize humanity over the DDR, while Iris wished to save East Germany no matter what. Much like Iris though, she was a selfless person in the end willing to go to any lengths to do what she felt was right. In this sense, Beatrix is very similar to Yuuko; a woman willing to do monstrous deeds for the benefit of mankind.
It's difficult to tell who was really right in the end though. Heck, Beatrix might have unified Germany anyways. She had a deal going on with the West that Iris wasn't privy too after all.
Of course, we won't be getting any of this in the anime. They only have like two more episodes to explain her motivation and it would be far easier just to go with kooky Beato being evil as fuck.
The final line is basically how Theo being Master is not confirmed. This was, of course, way before the VAs were cast.
If the bitch had obeyed his parents... following the will and respecting the sacrifice of them... so that Theo and bitch could escape... none of this would have happened!!!
Slaine Troyard was willing to sacrifice themselves for Asseylum-hime's ideals (Slaine didn't have a name back then, so they used Asseylum-hime to refer to him instead)
The second paragraph refers to Slaine Troyard's goals. Slaine Troyard apparently had a martyr-complex going on that was even bigger then Asseylum-hime. He wanted to reform Mars into a roadblock for the Counts to buy everyone else time. He did ultimately prioritize princess over the humanity, then he wanted to create a new empire to save lower-class Martians no matter what. Much like his former delirium. though, Slane Troyard was a stupid, crazy and delusional in the end willing to go to any lengths to do what she felt was right.
In this sense, Slaine Troyard is very similar Jurgen, Beatrix and Iris; people retarded, hallucinated, delirious and stupid that have dreams and ideals created by delusions and hallucinations by their sick minds.
Gabarge as Beatrix, Jugen, Slaine, Iris and Bizon, always end in the worst way and fucked, along with your shit dreams and your retarded ideals.
It is the law of nature.
At the end only the strong and smart survive.
The East German NVA Politoffizier - Political Officer
East German NVA Political Officers received their 'schooling' at the 'Wilhelm Pieck' Militarpolitische Hochschule der NVA (MPHS).
Located in Berlin-Grunau the MPHS graduates worked in the Arbeitsgruppe 'Polit' of a regiment, Brigade or the equivalent. Graduates could be promoted to 'Stellvertreter' of the Battalion Commander. (Similar to Political Commissar i.e. 2nd in command).
East German NVA Politoffizier were not only responsible for the Political training of the soldiers, but also the organisation of Culture and 'Freizeit' of the soldiers in their Regiment. The Polit also helped the Commander by the organisation of 'Wettbewerbe' and were responsible for any other duties the Commander thought fitting. MPHS students were also able to continue their studies in Military Academies i.e. at the MAK in Dresden or Moscow! Polit Abteilung exists in all of the NVA structures. Agitation Propaganda was the main policy - AGITPROP
Sometimes I wonder how we can keep posting all week. I mean, so far I have yet to get bored posting in these threads or feel I am forcing myself to participate. Never thought it was possible
Lise is still cute even when she's dying ;_;
Can any of you guys edit some cum strings between her two fingers?
Who /NVA/ here?
She has AIDS and had sex with the corpse of Adolf Hitler.
The lack of artwork for this is disappointing. There's almost none, and what little we do have is mostly just Beatrix and Iris
They're all cute when they die. I fully expect Iris, Beatrix, and Sylwia to be cute as they make little squeaks and wince their pretty eyes before they die too.
I could to it if I had some translucent cum string pngs to shoop with.
Beatrix is THE main heroine of her story. Even Iris doesn't get that in SM, despite being the canonical love interest. In the anime Iris is just a supporting character without POV with bit of screen time.
Irisdina is a stereotype: ''kuudere robotics ''.
Iris's plot convenience is completely retarded and ridiculous - Anime, Visual Novel and light novel are constantly trying to shove how amazing, fantastic and wonderful Irisdina is down your throat, using other characters as Irisdina fanboys. The most ridiculous and absurd is that at all times throughout at all history, they constantly use one of the characters to trying to shove how amazing, fantastic and wonderful Irisdina is down your throat,
Snow White's plot armor - Irisdina is kidnapped and becomes a damsel in distress, who requires a charming prince (Theodor) to achieve her rescue.
Irisdina is also the fanservice character of the Light novel and promotional materials.
Gretel has more development, internal conflicts, more scenes in visual novel, and more screentime in the anime, than Iris and this is a fact.
Is there a rule against it? I know that back in the day, you had a couple of famous bans like Lanced Jack or Jim Profit, but they were doing a little more than just being annoying retards.
He's a fucking madman. I told the MOFO to do it, but he actually fucked his sister, then, blew her.
I can't wait for all the butthurt newfags this summer.
What else could you be doing
There better be a scarf sharing scene with Katia and Theo in Martyrs or I'll pout.
irisfags are desperate your character only appears in fanart
So why are the BETA still specifically going after Earth? There's whole galaxies of resources for them to mine on planets that don't have any life. Wouldn't it make more sense to just pull back and cut your losses at this point?
The best routes in Martyrs better be Katia and Lise's or I'll start an imouto revolution!
In October 1982, Lise Hohenstein met with the Vietnamese families of BETA victims. After a brief interview in which she expressed her condolences and hope for closure, she reportedly burst out laughing and made Laser class noises and mimicked two F-4's dropping napalm. Lise then picked up the deformed child of a deformed victim and whispered into her ear "Vietnam fucking shits, bitch", and proceeded to put on a pair of sunglasses and unleash a barrage of martial arts attacks on the small child. The child was rushed to the hospital where she was pronounced dead due to extreme trauma. When asked later about the incident, Lisey Lise became visibly sexually aroused and repeated the same attack on the reporter.
Official Schwarzesmarken soundtrack by Roger Waters of Pink Floyd is the best fit for current events, comrades.
Also, commissar Gretel just got the Puhdy's last album https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxITXgetyQw
They're not specifically going after Earth. The BETA mining operation spreads like a pandemic across the universe, and Earth just happened to be a stop along the way. Even if Earth manages to fight off its infection, it's doubtful that the creators will even care. In fact, the creator's planet is probably a black hole by now, judging by the massive amounts of resources that get sent back to it.
We've still managed to hold them back for quite some time though, and we've been harassing them since before they even managed to hit Earth. Not to mention the countless BETA that have been killed.
Seems like it would be easier to just cut out than spend 100 years on a planet that you may or may not be able to take.
Let's be honest, they probably will. Lise's for sure, and Katia's the most unknown but it's different so it'll probably be good. It's like the monty hall problem, kind of..
Lise would be great because of Beatrix and beating on Ketchup.
Katia will be great because we'll get to see Theo go full Master-tier with his machinations to protect Katia from Schmidt and Beatrix.
The RLF and his doomsday cult are broke hence resorting to gorilla style tactics
Proved themselves useless, worth less than trash when the test pilots got their shit together and when America and Russia sent in their special forces
Literally a Gundam-tier villain
>Siscon and deep in love with her
>Kills her sister
If this a soldier irl, i doubt he can survive the PTSD and not killing himself soon.
Must be nice being takeru, he could go reversed his fuckd up in another loops.
I saw a lot of people talking about AnimeSuki, so I decided to look.
I noticed one thing, users of that forum they hate any male character, regardless of the genre of show.
They try to overstate the heroines and attempt to reduce in every way the male characters.
all the threads seem to threads of shows: CGDCT or yuri.
AnimeSuki is a pure cancer full of faggots.
Kirke like to introduce Theodor for his grandmother.
Kirke is the supposed winner of Theoball.
Finally. Lise died. I wonder how it will go the next two episodes.
Lise just had to fight Theodor rather than help him. If she truly loved Theodor, she would have done it. But she never loved Theodor, she was more like obsessed with owning him from what has been shown.
Alt V only benefits America
Therefore Theo is American
AMERICA FUCK YEAH
looks like a Tu-95 Bear exploding on takeoff
So the Japs are complaining about Farka. Originally, she was Lise's side-kick and friend who got killed during a hotel fight by a halberd being hacked into her. In the anime though, she's not only Lise's superior, but a complete bitch to her too:
The comment above was basically saying, where's Farka, there's no Farka.
Also, some complaints about the lack of companionship between the Werewolves.
I'm going to be depressed to see her go. Even the bastardized anime version is an incredible semen demon built for baby making.
The stasi weren't even really that sympathetic. They were human though, and had their own doubts, feelings, or rationales about what the did, and even with all the negative, many still wanted to be loved or at least have companionship.
Trips don't lie
So they're sympathetic? Yeah.
Ignoring the horror of the situation...isn't it saddening and yet beautiful in the way they had already resigned to die, and that she did not hesitate for a second to stay with him?
True love and loyalty is a very heartwarming thing to see.
After Gretel had spent enough time in the bowels of retail Hell, Gretel finally had a good enough command of the English language to get a better job. She eventually got the only job she was really qualified to do, Public Relations. Her new job was a mere fifteen minutes south of her old one, working for Boening at Payne Field. Soon, she find her calling in life, Labour relations.
Now, she had all the trappings of success in her new home; a condo with a view of the Sound, a Subaru Forester, and a garage full of high end camping gear she didn't know how to use. She was even able to sponsor Martin's entry into the United States.
Now, she was in the other Washington. She was sitting in an NLRB meeting. On her left was a young Japanese woman, Yui Takamura, who was in charge of a new project. On her left was one of the most foul and odious human beings she had ever encountered, Stonecipher. She could barely stand to be in the same room as him, but today she was on the same side as him.
Across from her were representatives from Spia and the Machinists' Union. Boening was initiating an amorous project to bring in over 50,000 refugee engineers and their families, and employ them at New facilities being built in Wichita, Long Beach and Charleston. The unions protested, claiming it was a violation of collective bargaining agreements, meant to undermine their bargaining power with Boening..
This was the biggest fight Gretel had gotten herself into since she arrived in the United States, and it would be fought with words.
After the union reps mange their case, it's Gretel's turn. Don't they realize how serious of a threat the Beta are? How important it is to get the refugees back on the job before their skills, line their bodies, waste away? As Gretel gets more and more worked up, her accent gets thicker, she leans into the reps, shouting and showering then with spittal, berating them for their short sighted greed.
She finishes. The NLRB rules in her favour.
Trainwrecks can be entertaining to watch.
>They won't be Stasi there
"There is always someone who watches you in this country~"
There better be a Kiirke and good Beato route in Martyrs or I'll pout.
Walther side story when?
Stasi Theo would be nice too, though that may involve a parallel universe.
>Theo-Master's current harem
IF he is the Master, milf Anette likely doesn't even know what he's upto. That's probably his mansion in London. She probably drops by all the time to chat and hang out, and since she's so PTSD and knife nut, she doesn't find a knife sticking out of the wall to be odd.
Yes, the two sluts are ready to die the next two episodes
I like to imagine that's after me asking if she really loves me, and she just dips her fingers inside her pants, they come out with wet strings still coming all the way up before snapping, and then she twiddles those fingers while giving me that patronizing, giggly look.
MAL pls go.
They really do think like us.
Maybe it's me, but I find the robotization, the automaton behavior of the Stasi people worse insult to their living victims. If anything, it absolves the system that bred all this, and not only the rationales, but also the ways and means of how ordinary and good people fell into the system, became part of it. It takes any and all accountability out by insisting they are all mere sociopaths.
That's too easy.
Kiirke: ''I can wipe my owy ass''.
this guy BTFO
Well obviously she's good at the banter game.
777 trips. Too bad Beato. Looks like you missed the 6666 by just a hair.
She hates East Germany due to various circumstances.
But her hatred died out after fighting with Theodor Eberbach in Operation Neptune. She even developed romantic feelings for the red haired boy, she "wanted to introduce him to grandfather"..
When the coup occurred in East Germany, she decided to help Theodor.
You better explain real quick where that picture is from, and who she's touching in a more than platonic way.
Can we start a petition to have her star in Lilith games?
Feels good to be a Wessie.
I want Kirke to taunt Anett with various international products she can effortlessly acquire via import while she only gets beets from Mother Russia.
Would Lise and Theo have been a happily married couple if all this Stasi bullshit never happened?
>you now realize that people who grew up exclusively in shithole Soviet regimes were surprised and excited at all the stuff they've missed when they toppled their slav overlords down
Except for EG of course, EGs knew that Best Germany was the best and had the best hence all the border jumping
In reality you can probably fuck girls like Lise for a chocolate bar, a bottle of cheap perfume or a bootleg copy of Knight Riders
The only ones who can't be bought easily are the affluent chicks with connections like Beatrix and Iris
Even Merkel thought her childhood was a downgrade
>you will never fuck Lise as you promise her safe passage to West Germany and passports to the UK
>turns out you're a dormant stasi double agent who also works for the MI6
>you get to fuck Lise in front of her onii-chan while he watches her special first time video
>you call up your Stasi friends on Monday, your CIA friends on Tuesday, Jamal on Wednesday, your CIA friends on Thursday, your BND friends on Friday, your SDECE friends on Saturday and some alone time with onii-chan on Sundays
>fucking Lise for a chocolate bar
Sounds like a doujin plot. Count me in.
Speaking of doujins... must have been an experience to have seen porn for the first time after the Berlin wall fell. I would pay to experience porn for the first time. Oh what a thrill.
Lise killed children and young people, because people feel sorry for her?
Pham is a wonder of the universe
Would make even more.
Well it wasn't THAT easy. At least it beat getting raped multiple times a day by Soviets...right?
Lise probably won't be lured by such trivial stuff considering her line of work, that's more like for Anett and Sylwia
Pham won't be bribed easily as well since gooks who end up in EG or Russia are usually the country's elites or the well connected
For Katia its literally impossible since she's just an honorary EG
Beatrix and Iris will just laugh at your face and they're most likely richer than your average West German
There's like two sizes for this floating around...which is the right one?
Stop trying to bait.
Didn't this artist say he'd never draw Beatrix?
So horrible, so sad.
>mfw you will never read a how to onee-san magazine
It was about 1 and a half years or so cause all those thing you mentioned ended once she joined the Werewolf Battalion, Beatrix help save her from Axmann's grip, the remaining one and a half was mostly done under her free will or more appropriately of her loyalty to Beatrix whom she started to view as an older sister figure.
She did most of it willingly after joining the Werewolf battalion though. The anime didn't show it at all but Lise is actually very loyal to Beatrix. Yes Theodor is one of the reason why Lise is working for the Stasi, so is Beatrix. Lise wants Beatrix to rise to the top and take over the Stasi, hence is willing to do anything for her.
>implying she's not so indulgent that she'd cry happy tears when you take away the condom, saying we won't need it for our future
Come on senpai, Pham is for making a family with.
Well, look at it this way. People all across the bloc, even in the USSR itself knew many of the broader trends, knew they were missing out on a lot. What they didn't know was the minutae.
An example - East Germans could watch West German television since the broadcast signals reached into most the GDR. Most control methods like North Korean pre-programmed spots on the dial just didn't work out, though you could still be in trouble if outright caught watching depending on the political climate in the country. Jamming could not be done on West German channels, since not only would it interfere with East German broadcasts (they used the same system, for compatibility), but it would violate numerous treaties, and also hamper efforts at Germany re-unity (under their banner of course, they did try to appeal to West Germans to join them, of course that worked precisely how well you'd expect).
However, there were certain parts that Western stations couldn't reach, and so other East Germans gradually started nicknaming them and their lands 'Tal der Ahnungslosen', or "valley of the clueless" since they were not as knowledgeable about the outside world.
Different world, the threat of BETA is rather upfront and close, unlike the insidious existential threat that loss of civilizational confidence, hatred of self has.
They are galvanized.
That's why you're with her, duh.
Plus you bully or blackmail everyone else in the squadron into chipping in if they want to play with your phamily, which of course they'll want to at a certain point..
She shoots him down constantly. Everyone shoots him down. Stellatits are, at least for now at Yukon, are Yuuya only.
>Yuuya will never make Stella a real woman just like he did with Sharon and Cryska
>Cryska will never catch her man sleeping with a newly baptized woman
>Yui will never hear her onii-chan and Stella making sloppy sex noises
Yeah, Stella would definitely do that. She's up for bullying, especially the Princess.
Theo loves Lise as his imouto, but sleeps with her as his lover.
I will never stop laughing. No wonder he became a terrorist.
Why does TE rap Yuuya for him being ashamed or hating his Japanese side, when even full blooded Issei are scorned by the Japanese, let alone Nisei? Isn't that like, a double standard that flew over their heads?
MAL think this person is Iris.
MAL is full of retarded people.
One thing disturbs me in TE. A very big thing.
Why did Yuuya never give any indication he grew up exclusively in the South? He doesn't ride the Hummer through the dirt. He doesn't look forward to rainy days under the porch. Hell, he never, ever even fries one piece of chicken let alone runs a BBQ. That is criminal, as far as being a good ol boy is concerned.
He was forced to do so by the game setting.
Yuuya worst Southerner of all time, then?
I don't think Yuuya was part of the Southern aristocracy, so his incest longings would have to be more like the backwoodsmen. Maybe. Their house did look pretty comfy...
That's makes zero sense. Being an alternate universe doesn't magically make someone not show signs they grew up in a place.
So he doesn't want his sister but his mama?
is it just me, or does SM portray the BETA as easily beatable?
I guess it is a character centric story, so they wouldn't be showing fresh eishiis getting rammed by destroyers, but it still feels like They're making due, with inferior TSFs, armor, and air support
No wonder he spills his spaghetti around Stella, Jesus. The poor guy has to do his work being hit on by a bombshell of a woman who is a portrait to how she was back at his age.
You know...I can totally see Yuuya as a real mama's boy. If anything, that would further drive hatred of his dad - seeing his mother struggling, he doesn't even really care about himself, he's mad that his father abandoned her.
I want to date an Annette. Would smuggle to the West with Kirke and Zero's help.
If Stella is his mom stand in, then what was Latrova?
Another version of mommy?
You know, I was half convinced that Theo's monologue from the opening of the first episode was addressed to Lise right before executing her, but apparently not. So who's he talking to?
We will take back America from been held hostage by the bankers and the federal reserve
>Gretel starts a proletarian revolution on the USA
Marx, Engels, Lenin, Gretel
Emerson Lake and Palmer
I wonder how many of those waifuing Gretel right now will turn against her when they play the VN and half her dialogue is just bitching about how the Will of the Party must supersede the laws of physics before she battlefield executes Theo.
>implying that MUH PARTY isn't one things that I like about her
Apparently after decades have passed, people still aren't teaching from Jurgen's Laserjagd for Dummies series.
You'd think that, but even in real life it wasn't until the Vietnam War that SEAD/Wild Weasel was codified into formal tactical doctrine instead of being undertaken on a case by case basis.
...does he know that his brother knocked up some gaijin broad before having his muh noble marriage?
He's going full onee-san here, so he's at least got a powerful perception.
>"Someone is always watching you in this country"
At least Beato didn't lie to you about it.
>Honecker and Mielke are discussing their hobbies.
>Honecker: "I collect all the jokes about me that are in circulation."
>Mielke: "Then we have almost the same hobby. I collect those who bring the jokes into circulation."
Annette is so cute, cutest muffin.
Is there a problem? We got a show running, and people wanna talk about it. It's not THAT fast moving on non-broadcast days.
I mean, to be honest, I came at a good time. I know roughly the periphery of what ML was, but hadn't made the effort to jump in till now. Got in on the KS in time too, and it's been the dominant 'media' I think about for some months now, since January.
While I realize now how bad the anime is in terms of faithfully adapting anything, it's a base to work off of. Despite problems and complaints all around, it's a nice world in terms of material to get into, a world to make your own stories in, and to move those stories out to other stories.
Is Monica younger or older than VG?
So another onee-san who bullies her onii-chan?
Is she the only one who can keep him in line?
Hot Brit chicks when?
Or American for that matter.
They only defeat him.
VG needs someone who can conquer him!
You are correcto. I really should sleep.
>or American for that matter
But Europoors probably complain we already have too many appearances.
Someday. Maybe if they ever do something in India.
Fucking continental, don't you have some arseholes to lick in Brussels?
You have no idea how much I'd pay to see a TSF unit led by Nigel Farage.
Definitely. They knew each other for pretty much their entire lives.
Who has he said he wants to protect multiple times?
Most likely, yes. Their descent into incest began long before the Stasi.
That said, it's not really incest, considering how distant the blood tie is. Something like a distant cousin of the Father, not even Lise. There's lots of families who are likely closer without even realizing it.
No. Pls no.
I have faith in you Yuuya. You are deep cover for Murica.
You mean Nigel Thornberry, you degenerate teabag.
Well Lise without her ribbons DID end up looking suspiciously like the model on the fapmag Theo had...
Maybe his telepathic desire for big boob blondes morphed her?
You're seeing this the wrong way, anon. Think about it:
>promised to get married with his imouto cute blonde at 8 years old
>attracted to Iris, a busty blonde onee-san type who looks like an older version of his sister with her hair down
>grew fond of Katia, primary stated reason this began was because she reminded him of his sister
Theodore is a siscon.
Fapmag for comparison.
Though this of course makes one wonder where Beato then comes in.
Three months since the rebellion ended. Three months of Theo making Katia wear Lise's ribbons, calling her Lise, doing things with her that he did with Lise, calling out his sister's name constantly. He hugs her, he smells her hair, and he tells her how much he loves her. How happy he is to be here with her. Oh sure, sometimes he 'drops the act' and tells Katia that he is incredibly grateful for having her help him with this, but the gaps between thanking her grow further apart. Sometimes when he starts thanking her, his eyes begin to water as he struggles to accept the truth about what really happened to Lise on that winter day, and what he really had to steel his heart to accomplish.
On these days, Katia interrupt him, thinking of preserving his mental health rather than watch it crumble and try to start again from scratch, as has been the case in Germany. She tells him that it's okay for her onii-chan to cry, it's okay for him to keep doing this. In times like these, his impression of Lise becomes overpowering, and he gives Katia a hug so deep that she fears her bones would break under the pressure, and she coughs out for Theo to stop. He doesn't.
She asks if onii-chan could stop because she's still so terribly tiny and frail. He finally lets go and apologizes. Poor Katia's mental health is in a pretty precarious position herself. She has to dress up as the girl who killed one of her comrades every single day, keep her mannerisms, even the ones that she didn't know about that were a common sight for Theo in the days before the Stasi took them, she has to pretend that everything is all right and that she's right here with onii-chan.
The disguises get worse. She buys padding for her bra so that she has a bigger chest like Lise, something that Theodor onii-chan can bury his face in when he needs to cry out all of his sorrows. She pats his head and tells him that he's been a good boy, even as her own heart weeps at what's been done to her.
I want to bury my nose into exhausted, listless, smelly, fluid covered Beato!