Utean best grill confirmed by scientists of harvard

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>>138602781
Utena is indeed the best grill

>>138602781

>something something leftovers something something asparagus.

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>>138602781
Namani > Utean
confirmed by theoreticians of Yale.

I'm a nanana fan myself
>that time she turned into a cow
>that time she laid an egg
>that time she went to India for curry
Nanaimo best girl

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>>138602781
>>138603075
>>138603155
>>138603262
Objectively incorrect opinions.

>>138603139
As if you wouldn't fuck Akio given half a chance.

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>>138603348
>>138603155
Utena > Juri > ... > Nanami

> Juri is a good grill, but she's too old
> Nanami is annoying af
Utena again confirmed for best girl

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>It's a Juri episode

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>>138603647

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>People constantly talking about a remake/sequel someday

>They forget/don't care that Utena's VA died

Fuck that. Tomoko Kawakami will always be the only voice for her.

>>138604613
;_;

>>138604613
Why? It was perfect as it was, it'll never need one.

>>138604613
> ovarian cancer
fuck so that killed Utena?

fuck.

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>>138602781
five cute facts about Utena:
> she's a girl
> she's a salmon
> i love her!!
> Utena!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>138603155
>>138603262
Nanami is a cat murdering bitch and deserves far worse than she got in the series. I can't decide if I despise her or Shiori more.

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>>138605458
>Shiori
Can you believe that faggot dumped pic related?

>>138603564

>16
>too old

>>138605432
forgot that she's a car

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This anime is so surreal, remember this shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnUOowCUJQo

What are other animes like utena? Is Sailor moon worth watching?

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>>138604613
I would love some kind of Dating Sim/Visual Novel or maybe even a cameal on some other thing, like if there ever is a Mahou Shoujo version of Super Robot Wars I would love to see her in it.

>>138606108

>Is Sailor Moon worth watching?

Yes. Don't expect it to be just like Utena, but if you want some good sol with a surprisingly decent story mixed in with Ikuhara's directing style, you hopefully will like it.

>>138605747

You're thinking of Saionji.

>>138604613
I didn't know that, that is a bummer.

Although I've never heard of someone asking for a sequel/remake of Utena (and for good reason, it is perfection).

>>138606108
>Is Sailor Moon worth watching?
Well, I may be a hopeless Ikuharafag but Sailor Moon and Utena are my two favourite series by an enormous margin and I have resigned myself to never finding anything that will fill those voids.

>>138607557
everytime

>>138606108
Penguindrum or Yuri Kuma Arashi? I've not seen the former yet but I liked YKA. Smaller in scope and in my opinion not as good, but they've got the Ikuhara feel.

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>>138607404
sheeeeeeit

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>>138606108
>Did I just watch a dude ghost ride the whip sideways?
kek

How can a grill turn into a car though?

>>138609038
This has been answered a thousand times already.
Lesbian magic.

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>tfw feeling bad for Saionji

I just can't hate him. He's like a sad runt puppy.

>>138609086
They do an awesome job turning him from a villain type character to one you sympathize with.

>>138609062
I wonder what gay magic can do

>>138609274
Lesbian magic ≠ gay magic
For example, gay magic has zero probability of making lilies appear out of nowhere, while lesbian magic has 50% roses/50% lilies. They both produces sparkles and bubbles though. Lesbian magic is also able to make on partner pregnant with a cute little girl. Their best users can focus its energy to create powerful, most of the time pink, beams that destroy everything het and turn girls gay.

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>during the climax
>the shadow girls scan a salad
>danger
What?

>>138609446
I'm a lesbian with a penis, can I do magic stuff too?

>>138610084
It's a rage vegetable scanner.

>>138604613
I dunno man I loved the show but a 4 movie rebuild of Utena could fix the biggest issue. BUDGET

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>>138610807
Someone post that pic comparing the ending of utena and 2.22

>>138610807

Utena's only issue is the budget. They could do a shot-by-shot remake, set it to the original audio, and it'd be fine.

>>138611228
if I somehow have a million dollars to burn I will do this,
but no studio is going to

>>138606108

>Look at the comments out of boredom

>This is what made me think these aren't real. These "duels" are internal emotional battles within oneself propelling through challenges in life to maturity.

I should have known better than to look.

It's both, you dumbass. That's like saying Utena doesn't really turn into a car.

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>>138607865
Utena: A coherent and interesting story with a great depth of complex symbolism.

Penguindrum: A story overloaded with symbolism to the detriment of the narrative.

Yurikuma: A simple, well done story with simple, well done symbolism.

Penguindrum isn't bad, but it bit off more than it could chew. I like Yurikuma better because it didn't overreach itself.

>>138611432
I plan on watching it soon. I'll probably like it, seems that his post-Utena works are kinda divisive but I like his shtick.

>>138611583
I'd recommend reading or watching Night on the Galactic Railroad, will help Penguindrum to make a bit more sense.

"After the Quake" also helps, but isn't mandatory.

And pay attention to the subway scenes, they are Penguindrum's version of Utena's shadow plays.

>>138611432

Penguindrum's biggest problem was that Ikuhara redid the story and theme after the earthquake, since he felt it was pretentious shit and that the aftermath made him realize what was really important in life.

It either needed more time in the planning stages, or more episodes like Utena had (but that's nearly impossible in the modern industry.)

>>138611675
Oh hey, I have the movie downloaded I've been meaning to watch it for a while. Are they related? This is the first I'm ever hearing of a connection between the two.

>>138611701
I didn't know that, actually. Is there an interview or something where he talks about that? Would love to read it if you know of one.

>>138611737
Penguindrum has a lot of imagery and symbolism related to Galactic Railroad. One plot element specifically doesn't make very much sense unless you are aware of the connection.

>>138611828
Cool, thanks for the tip anon.

>>138603348
Correction
>As if you wouldn't fuck Utena given half a chance.

>>138611828

I think he said it at his expo thing a few years back in 2013.

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>>138611905

Utena's too cute and pure to fuck, even if Akio already hit her. She is for cuddling and holding hands with.

>>138612128
>cuddling
>holding hands with
I see so this is what we call it nowadays.

>>138612187

>so this is what we call it nowadays

I didn't say "talking about tomorrow's lunch."

>>138612128
I agree but wouldn't complain about getting a blowjob from her though.

>>138612232
Next thing I know, you're going to start telling me that you want to walk her home gently.

>>138612346
>I agree
>but wouldn't complain about getting a blowjob from her though.

That escalated quickly.

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Never forget

Did Miki and Kozu have sex?

>>138612987

They probably played doctor when they were little. Miki probably either doesn't remember, or he glazes over it in his rose-tinted nostalgia goggles when he thinks about the good old days.

Kozue probably remembers it well. It might have been part of what drove her to become a slut/yandere.

>>138612618
Those two episodes were my favourite in the show. I loved the onion prince as a character, too. His black rose interview in the elevator or whatever that thing is was brilliant.

>>138613066
I also kinda meant during the time they were in the car.

>>138602781
used goods

>>138613568
Used goods are still goods. Utena/Utena would fuck.

Cool show, but it made me feel too icky to truly enjoy it

>>138613795
Just take a shower every time you finish fapping. That should solve your problem.

>>138612987
Did miki have sex with Akio?

Anthy a beauty

>>138614054
Everyone had sex with Akio.

>>138614162
I didn't.

;_;

>>138609086
>>138609197
Really? I never grew to like the guy, I feel like if he didn't beat the shit out of Anthy at every moment he got with her, I would have been able to like him.

>>138614366
I wouldn't say I like him as a person (abusive, broke Wakaba's heart), but I feel for his cause. Always stuck in Touga's shadow, his only friend being dishonest and doesn't care for him, looking for "something eternal" in the form of lasting companionship, etc. He's not a nice person but I think he's sympathetic.

>>138609274
>>138609446
Utena => Lesbian Magic
JoJo's => Gay Magic

I loved Ruka, in only two episodes, he managed to be such a compelling, interesting character. So much more depth than so many major characters of other shows.

>>138611828
Penguindrum needs a single extra episode or an OVA to be complete.

>>138614706
I'd argue that Jojo has homoerotic magic, which is distinct from gay magic.

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>>138614854
best boy desu

>>138614854
The end to his story was pretty heartbreaking.

>>138615008
>>138614942
>tfw can't save your Waifu from having shit taste in waifus

>>138613495
That entire scene gave me NTR vibes. I thought I was desensitized to it back then, but I remember watching that part and feeling part of me die inside.

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>>138609274
This is gay magic right here

>>138617528
Miki was your husbando?

>>138617977
No, I think I accidentally self-inserted as him. He was a nice smart kid who was about to be corrupted while his 13 year old sister was getting fucked by the principal who was twice her age right in front of him in a self-driving car going faster and faster as she also gave off incestuous vibes.

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>>138614942
He died didn't he? Mind refreshing my memory on him, he was in love with Juri?

>>138602781
>Ruka is in the school
>dies
>dies for real
>Utena is in the school
>dies
>doesn't die for real
I literally don't get it. It's been like ten years and it still bothers me.

Also making Utena just want to be a normal girl deep down was pretty lame.

>>138614854
>>138614942
He was interesting.
>realizes the nature of the school
>tags out
>comes back to try to save his waifu even though he knows it probably won't work
>doesn't matter, has to try anyway
>warns her one last time before leaving

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I want to fight for Anthy.

>>138618242
I want to become the literal vehicle for Anthy's escape.

>>138618242
Hope you enjoy getting stabbed in the back.

>>138618292
It's okay if it may help to set her free. Or to fulfill my wish. Or both.

>>138618208
In the end he was just as obsessed with Juri as Juri was with Shiori though. People romanticize what he did because his death was sad.

>>138618387
He wasn't really obsessed with her. He had gone full Buddha in leaving the school, knowing that leaving that state of arrested development would kill him.
He had already let go, he had to have to have left in the first place.

>>138618117
it's complicated but a run down version is
>ruka is in love with juri
>juri is in love with shiori
>shiori is cunt to juri because she is the embodiment of BPD
>ruka doesn't like his waifu being treated like shit
>ruka cucks juri to make her jealous
>ruka and shiori ride in akios car
>they lose the duel but ruka expected this to happen
>ruka tells shiori the truth that he was just using her
>juri doesn't like her waifu being treated like shit
>challenges ruka to a duel
>he wins
>she now has to ride akio's car with ruka
>juri forfeits the duel when her pendent is destroyed
>ruka leaves the school again or died, either way this means he manned up since the school represents immaturity, good job ruka

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Was there a character in Utena that finished the show as a virgin?
Background characters like the 3 faggots dont count

>>138618060
You're suster was fucking the principal?

Also she was 15 and Akio was chairman.

>>138618502
The Onion Prince guy

>>138618502

>>138603155

>>138618167
She was just an ordinary girl until the end when she became a prince and adult.

>>138618526
Implying riding Akio's car doesnt actually mean you get fugged

>>138607557

Reading this always amuses me but I more or less feel the same about Utena after watching that godforsaken episode

>>138618528
>became a prince
nah m8 she came to terms with that princes and princesses only exist in fairy tales and in the adult world there are only humans.

>>138614366
That's pretty much the point, it's really easy to hate him, like a dimwitted reactionary. It takes courage and reflection to realize he's a complex, sympathetic character without necessarily having to turn into a "good guy" (this isn't your dragon ball, after all).

>>138618526
Akio might have fucked her. The car is ambiguous

>>138618570
>>138618588
who was she in the car with?

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>>138611018

here ya go

>>138618606
I think it was Touga himself.

>>138618588
Everyone in the car is getting fucked. It's the least ambiguous element from the series. The car is literally fucking.

>>138618579
She realized it was an ideal to strive for rather than an actual person or state of being.

>>138618632
It was the most Ambiguous one for me, getting fucked doesnt see to be enough to make some characters rekindle their motivation for battle.

>>138618657
What will blow your mind is when you realize Akio isn't real, his whole character was just a metaphor.

>>138618513
No, I just kept rooting for Miki because he seemed like a genuinely good kid. He ended up being the most relatable character to me, so when all that stuff ended up happening to him, I wanted to get the fuck out of that car and scrub down my heart and mind.

And I'm pretty sure she was 13. Utena is in her second year of middle school, which makes her 14, and Miki and Kozue were a year younger.

>>138618632
So Juri stayed gay despite getting double teamed ? well I always did assume people on the car fugged

>>138618502
Miki, Onion Prince, Nanami.

>>138618632
I always thought that it was meant to be Akio offering them a shortcut to adulthood.

>>138618671
He was real that's as dumb as saying the sword fights were pure metaphorical.

They are real it's just they are also symbolic.

>>138618671
Wait what? Please elaborate.

>>138618697
Miki fugged his sister and Akio.

Wakaba was pure. Unless Saonji fucked her.

>>138618679
I always thought that depending on the situation, if it was 3 characters it was just the two relevant ones fucking and Akio was just influencing them or something like that. My memories are a bit vague though and I like to think he had a threesome with Saionji and Touga.

>>138618705
Everything in the show is both real and pure metaphor.

I'm just really confused on how the car made some characters rekindle their motivation to duel. Saionji and Touga were pretty obvious, their motivations were stated right on your face, I can see nanami somehow because Touga was there. But Juri and Miki just arent clear for me. Mainly Juri because Miki loves anthy and all that.

>>138618726
Basically what >>138618700 said, Akio represents a stunted, adolescent view of what adulthood is and symbolizes the use of newly-discovered sexuality or mind games as they struggle to define their own personalities and gain psychological dominance over the others without really understanding their motivations behind it or the responsibility adulthood entails. Like everything in the series he is both real and not real, everything is a metaphor, etc etc. It's all a deeply layered onion.

>>138618749
wakaba wasn't pure at all. she's the kind of girl that only fucks pieces of human filth because of her low self esteem.

>>138618697
Nanami was fucked by life

>>138618902
And she did get metaphorically pregnant in the egg episode

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I'll probably never understand the car scenes but I think I remember someone saying that the ones in the front row are fucking and not the ones in the back or something like that. So for instance Ruka got fucked by Akio while Juri was watching, same with Miki?

>>138610669
>I'm a lesbian with a penis
no, you're a straight man in a dress

>>138619244
see >>138618789

>>138619244
Back seaters get nailed if they are with another person. Note that Juri wasn't.
Front seat is for Akio.

>>138618789
Wow you sound like the English teacher who thinks that in Old Man and The Sea, the old man's boat color's is blue symbolizes freedom etc etc.. and discussing this issue for 2 hours

>>138618700
No he's just an adult who is sitting comfortably in his ivory tower and playing prince. So basically, a man children

>>138609086
>>138609197

I never sympathized with him, just ended up thinking he was pathetic.

>>138619697
You sound like you're 16 years old and having trouble in school.

>>138606234
>SRW Mahou Shoujou Dating Sim
>you can be the boy or the girl
FUND IT

>>138618502

i don't remember Tsuwabuki ever getting in the car.

At least i hope he finished the show as a virgin

>>138620001
I'm having trouble dealing with pretentious people like you who over-analyzing things from books or movie to the point that they mislead themselves

>>138620589
Then don't come to the thread? People have been analyzing Utena for nearly 20 years now, your edgelord "HURR I DONT LIKE IT" attitude doesn't contribute anything.

>>138620612
Not saying I don't like Utena, but I just saying that you're completely wrong

>>138619697
>>138620589
>>138620664
Here's your free attention.

>>138620501
Eventually double teamed by Nanami and that one girl who likes him.

>>138620664
Not him, but I'm curious what's your interpretation?

>>138620664
>you're completely wrong but I won't elaborate on why
nice

>>138620789
>>138620820
>>138620930

Thanks for the yous

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What does Anthy's butt smell like?

>>138621208
When she's being the Anthy or when she's being full goddess?

Smelly Indian shit and Divine rosebuds respectively.

>>138621208
Roses and tea.

>>138621292
Awesome.

>>138621208
designated

>>138618700
>Akio offering them a shortcut to adulthood

It is but the shortcut is sex and it doesn't really lead to adulthood

>>138618922
>metaphorically pregnant

That was her period anon.

>>138621920
>it was her period

Wow, Holy shit!

How did I miss that.

>>138602781
Disgusting girl who gets nailed by a terrible person.

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>>138602781
Tell me about this Harvard Scientist
What else they discovered?

Despite being a false Prince throughout most of the show what did Utena do differently in her second duel against Touga that made Anthy actually see her as a prince at least briefly.

>>138607557
Is this written by a male or a female?

>>138623082
>>138607557
Nevermind, found out by googling Milk Morinaga.

Didn't think it'd be that easy, but HEY, fuck me right?

>>138623082
Guy I think.

>>138623115
Female, actually.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_Morinaga

>Milk Morinaga (森永 みるく Morinaga Miruku?) is a female Japanese yuri manga artist born in Tokyo, Japan.

>>138622396
you're waifu is shit

>>138609086
>not laughing at him

>>138609086
The madman cooks eggs in the woods at night.

>>138625275
Where else would you cook eggs?

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>>138604613
Mfw when I found out that her va died, but Never heard any of her performances

>>138602781
She got fucked by akio at least twice and also once by touga. Total slut.

>>138603155
No best girl award for cat drowning incestuous narcissists

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>>138618466
>>138618117
>>138614942
>>138618208
He died. A-ko and B-ko explicitly comment on it next to Juri.

shadow: Hey, do you know?
shadow: Hmm?
shadow: That patient died yesterday.
shadow: He was such a babe too! What a shame.
shadow: And after he kept saying he wanted to fence again after leaving the hospital.
shadow: It seems he knew how sick he was. But he forced his way out of the hospital anyway and went back to school.
shadow: I bet there's somebody he loved in the Fencing Club.
shadow: Come to think of it, he was always saying:
shadow: "I want to give the Power of Miracles to the one I love. I want to free her."
shadow: What's that supposed to mean, I wonder?
shadow: Who knows...

>literally blacked
>best girl

Nice try

>>138628645
>indian
>black