Shinji had a hard life.

>>138599146
Shinjis a little faggot
Who wouldn't want a giant badass robot from his dad made from his dead mom and have his dad throw damaged older women and redheads at him?
His dad even threw in some clones

Gendo did nothing wrong

>>138599146
If you were an Eva character. who would you be?

>>138599628

Fuyutsuki with a bit of Shinji.

>>138599730
Weird combo. Elaborate?

>>138599628

Rei probably. I'm a bit schizoid and I would probably follow Gendo since he treats me well.

Everybody had survived nuclear world war or grown up in its shadow. Shinji was left to pursue an empty, directionless life on his own.

>>138599298
Gendo killed toji

>>138599831
But would you turn on him?

>>138599146
Get over it pussy

>>138599628
Shinji I have suicidal tendencies and self worth issues and a father that expects too much and considers me worthless.

>>138599870

Depends on how my relationship with Shinji evolves. But I probably wouldn't do it.

>>138599884
You're just shit out of luck by the sounds of it. Sorry to hear that.

>>138599904
But Gendo is using you!

>>138599813

I hold myself to a high degree, especially academically, but don't consider myself someone of leadership caliber, so I like to be the number two in charge of fulfilling tasks rather than planning for everyone else. Then again, I'm also socially withdrawn and suffer depressive episodes about how loneliness occasionally as well.

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>>138599628
Thad Castle

>>138599146
>Shinji had a fag life
Fixed that for you.

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>>138600000
this thread wasn't going anywhere anyway

>>138600000
I would not let people get back out of the human tang. If it was up to me I would make everyone stay dissolved.

>>138599851
Dummy Rei killed Toji.

>>138600035
You're an odd, complicated one. That's for damn sure.

>>138600059
I don't get it.

>>138600097
This thread can become a God if it wants to!

>>138600059
How well would Thad pilot an Eva?

>>138600147
Gendo controlled the Eva. He made it crush toji.

>>138600000

Nice quints. But it is more about the life I will lead. Whether he is "using" me doesn't matter that much. If I have no consciousness so that I can be used as a body for his life, then I wouldn't have anything to lose. If I have a consciousness, some of it will live on that body I think.

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>>138600000
Gendo did absolutely nothing wrong. He was trying to do something wrong but then Rei made Shinji do something wrong instead.

>>138600182
No, the dummy system controlled Toji. Ritsuko engineered it, blame her for it's incompetence in differentiating human and angel.

>>138600145
Why's that? Do you hold yourself in such a high regard that you think you know what's best? Or are you a controlling type of personality.

>>138600186
Thank you, I try.
You raise a fair point, but it dabbles in things we can only speculate about.

>>138600201
Your pretty spot on.

>>138600201
If he cared about his wife so much, why did he turn her into an Eva?

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>>138600000
wasted

>>138600272
>Turning someone into a giant robot
>not the ultimate act of love

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>>138600201

>>138600272
Didn't she do that of her own volition.

>>138600301
Says you.

>>138600238
Gendo issued orders. He could have deactivated it after it pulled out the plug with toji in it. Instead he let it crush toji with a smile on his face. How's that for a good man?

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Who had the hardest life?

>>138600321
He spent the entire series trying to bring her back instead of dealing with his sons psychological issues.

>>138600169
Something about his dead father and his pocket pussy. Probably would just end up throwing huge alcohol parties at NERV HQ and haze the fuck out of Shinji.

Shit now I really want an Eva show with Thad in it...

>>138600355
Me. I was bullied in high school. And I'm still a virgin.

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>>138600272

>>138600429

Your Shinji then?

>>138599628
The guy that fucks Asuka constantly.

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>>138600322
Shinji refused to attack the angel even though he his unit was the only one not incapacitated.

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>>138600312
yeah too bad she personally picked him out of pre-instrumentality and he's floating through space having LCL sex with his waifu forever

>>138600169
Probably have a shitty synch ratio but his ego and insanely large self confidence would make him better than Shinji.

>>138600355
Guts' sword

Golden Age Arc is all about how he's so in love with his sword that he leaves the Hawks to go live together with his sword.

Then at the first sign of trouble he throws it away to fuck off with some giant black sword with 5 times the girth.

>>138600509
Having to go with this.

>>138599851
Toji didn't die. He just lost a leg.

>>138601112
Toji dies in the manga/good version of Evangelion.

NGE merely maiming Toji felt like pussying out. Since Shinji had maimed plenty of people before that, like Toji's sister.

>>138600474
Fuyutski is such a great and underappreciated character. Fuckin love that crusty old cuck.

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>>138601293
>Fuyutsuki pullin silly pranks on Gendo over the years as revenge for stealing Yui
>Gendo:"Who replaced the SUGAR WITH FUCKING SALT!"
>Fuyu:"I'm look into that right away sir...(kukuku)"

>>138599146
Did he love to play the piano

>>138600509
Were that I was you. I could be happy. Fuck you anon, you stole my love from me.

>>138601481
He played the cello.

Did the manga ever end?

Was it good?

>>138601553
>Did the manga ever end?
Yep.

>>138601481
MY ASS IS LITERALLY A PENIS

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>>138601553
The ending? Not really, 7/10.
The manga? Yeah it's better than NGE despite what EVAfags say. Since you can actually understand the manga and it's intricacies without needing 10 daily threads to debate it.

>>138601591

Did it end well?

>>138601655
The blandest.

>>138601256
Not anyone he was friends with or cared out.

I think both the series and manga are good.

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>>138601445
The thing is that the actual screenshot is probably more heart wrenching and hilarious.

>>138601711
Hurting your friend's leg shouldn't be enough to cause him to stop trying to save the world. Asuka got fucking wrecked because of his decision not to pilot, even though Asuka had just as much a reason to not want to pilot, since Toji was an acquaintance/friend of hers too.

Seriously losing the Zureul fight is what caused Asuka's decline.

>>138601495
He never said he was, you cuck. He interpreted the question as a choice. Which I would choose too if given the choice.

>>138601445
Why is Gendo rapping while fucking Yui?

>>138601801
That was after Toji's maiming. Then it happened and it partly encouraged him to get involved again.

>>138601801
If Shinji went into the Zeruel fight like normal, he might have just gotten dumpstered and everyone would have died.

Since he waited, he went full desperate badass.

>>138601812
I said, "Were that I was you." therein obviously meaning within the context of his reply.
Were anon the person that was fucking Asuka constantly, I would hate him.
Follow the flow of the conversation anon.

>>138602071
You dislike Kaji?

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>>138599146
>Shinji had a hard life.

>>138602143
>alpha dongmaster
>fugging a bitchy child with nobutt
Fuck off, Asuka.

>>138602143
Filenames kun please make like you're waifu and kill yourself.

>>138602143
I dislike him because Asuka wants him.
If she wasn't nuts for him, then I would drink with him and be a bro.

>>138599628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FckkZihQUaU

>>138602258
It's not filenames. Isn't filenames a reifag though?

>>138602071
I still think you're misinterpreting this. You're treating the hypothetical too seriously.

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>>138602212
>that awful art
>that forced framing device
>that zero effort joke
I vomit every single time.

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>>138602316
>Isn't filenames a reifag though?
Not sure, but I have a picture of his face

>>138602324
Yeah sorry about that, I have this thing were I like to play out the hypothetical. Sometimes the other party plays along and you get a good laugh from it.

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>>138602324
I think he made a silly comment and you took it too seriously, so now he has to awkwardly try to explain it to you, making it seem more serious in the process.

>>138602316
Yeah, I thought that was him trying to bait again.

>>138602225
>get to Nerv HQ
>realize it's more convenient to make Gendo's son your protege than to keep seducing Asuka

>>138602381
I don't know why you'd want to play that scenario out of all scenarios you could play out.

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>>138599628
Shinji, but alpha mode, fucking grils, saving the world, wrecking stuff with giant weapons, stopping my moms and seeles gay plans and being a rad dude

>>138602414
That's not even canon though. Fuck off.

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>>138602397
You hit the nail on the head anon

>>138602452
Shits and giggles?

>>138602468
>Shinji, but alpha mode
Pic related? Kinda?

>>138602523
>Shinji
>ever having the upper body strength to do this
>ever having the sexual potency to make an undeveloped teen climax

>>138602659
It's a non-canon doujin for a reason anon

>>138602523
Stop reposting that page, for fuck's sake. It's bad enough you try to play out a cuck scenario for "shits and giggles". Let me guess, waifu just means a favorite girl to you and you totally dig 3DPD, right? What even entices fags like you to infest this place?

>>138602700
Fuckin' hell anon, cool your jets.

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>>138602735
>JUST A PRANK BRO AHAHAHAH WOAH CALM DOWN THOUGH

>>138602700
Dude, I just saved it from a thread. Calm yourself.

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>>138602790
>literal autism

>>138602773
Ebin samefag, really truly ebin. A whole two seconds. You sure fooled me. Truly Loki's apprentice.

>>138602468
His hair turned back into shit though. The flashbacks killed this manga for me. Finding out his harem used to be his mom's sex toys is pretty depressing

>>138602836
>le ebin wan wan girl mixed with le burry pink i am so le above you condescending passive aggressive post

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>>138602837
>>138602898

>>138602816
Save me the bullshit and kill yourself.

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>>138602837
Wrong guy anon.

>>138600201
Gendo looks like he is about to cry on the left.

>>138602924
What the fuck's your problem?

>>138599146
And thanks to rebuild it's only going to get worse.

>>138602917
Sick reaction image brahski. You're so distanced and above this argument, so deattached. We're all very impressed with your maturity. You are loved and validated. l mean, >>138602924
you're just such a goddamned cool customer. Fucking zoinks, bro.

>>138602949
>"You could've sent me a memo you fucking cunt..."

>>138602924
Is that you mong cunt? Or are you bile spewing rei poster? You feel like the bile poster

>>138599146
I just watched the rebuilds

The first two were better than 3
Why the fuck was Misato such a bitch to Shinji when SHE TOLD HIM to save Rei because he wanted to
WHY DID SHINJI ACTIVATE 4TH IMPACT WHEN KAWORU EXPLICITLY TOLD HIM NOT TO
I don't hate Mari. That being said she feels like a plot device that only stuck around for more fanservice

>>138602979
Wanna tussle sprout? You aren't prepared for me to be so above the argument.

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>>138602949
Given the circumstances, I wouldn't blame him.

>>138603006
Thanks, anon!

>>138603044
>You aren't prepared for me to be so above the argument.
What does that even mean? Are you high right now? Are you on drugs?

>>138603019
You've called about three different posters mongs, shippy mcfanfic. At least I can type in proper English you lamentable shitskin newfag. How the fuck do you get told off by the three letter meme supreme? Christ.

>>138603034
We could be friends.

>>138599628
The guy who constantly spills his spaghetti trying to hit on Maya

So, Shinji or one of the main 3 crew members I guess

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>>138599851
Toji is a bully

>>138603110
I'm glad I'm not entirely wrong. My friend was pretty shocked, he liked 3 was the best

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>>138603117
Would you a modern maya?

>>138603071
Haha dood you must be high ahahahha woah dude, you're like craz right now. I mean WOH there captain cocaine loke just chil brahski this here threads a safe space, you dig me? I dig me. Hahah just chill like wih,a smooylthhe ahahahahahah

>>138599628
If you don't say Gendo you're 99% lying. You're on /a/, you're basically an autistic neckbeard pussy.

>>138603182
Fucking christ dude.

>>138603170
Any day, any week.

Pink haired girl a worst, I still think Maya should have stayed main crew
tan lady is nice though

>>138600272
He turned his back his on the shady organization he worked for to have a chance to bring his wife back.

>>138603034
>Why the fuck was Misato such a bitch to Shinji when SHE TOLD HIM to save Rei because he wanted to

Little bit of buyer's remorse, little bit of saving someone =/= nuking the planet and killing millions. She'd obviously think that Shinji fucked up bigtime somehow.

>>138603164
3 definitely has its merits, but I just can't say its better than 1 or 2.

>>138603034
I pretty much agree.

1 and 2 work because they can rely on your knowledge of the series to fill in any gaps in character background and development, but 3 can't, so you just get a lot of flashy, confusing plot and nothing else.

Mari was a really promising character in 2, but 3 did literally nothing to develop her character, so every second she spends on screen is time wasted.

>>138603245
I WANT THE PINK HAIRED THING TO DIE!
What the fuck is wrong with her lips? Who is she? How did she get on the bridge being as grossly incompetent as she is? WHY PINK?!

>>138603164
>he liked 3 was the best
Time to put Old Yeller down, anon.

>>138603192
At least 3 women fall in love with Gendo and he fucks all 3. More if you interpret the Rei clones with sexual subtext.

Doesn't sound like /a/.

/a/ is more like the longhair bro who was so pathetic he didn't even warrant a loved one to LCL him.

>>138603270
Yeah. If anything, the visuals were pretty godly at least. Maybe I'll have to rewatch it sometime.

>>138603279
Couldn't have said it better myself.

>>138603309
Maybe that's the true mystery of the rebuilds

>>138603395
>the true mystery of the rebuilds
Wait, am I talking to Anno right now? Is that you Anno? It's okay if you don't want to say, just give me a sign.

>>138603489
Anno has been dead since the 90s. One of the keyframe artists got facial reconstructive surgery and became Punished Anno: a Fallen Legend.

>>138603601
It all makes sense now.

>>138603309
>How did she get on the bridge being as grossly incompetent as she is?
They actually address this in the movie. 99% of the planet is dead, so the majority of WILLE are civvies.

And as bizarrely anime as she was, hentai-chan was still able to successfully operate that incredibly advanced, cutting edge technology. The vast majority probably couldn't.

>>138603489
In the last rebuild, Giant Naked Maya absorbs what remains of Japan and takes it to Mars to create new life there.

Everyone gets to come except for Rei who ceases to exist

Shinji's new eva is named Shin Evangelion

Screencap this post.

>>138603705
>Shin
>Shinji
WHAT DOES IT MEAN

is it a meme or does everyone really hate shinji that much?

i don't see how any rational person can expect a teen in the middle of adolescence to be put into a warzone alone without any training with the heaviest burden one can place on a person to just "suck it up and be a man" about it when ADULT MEN with YEARS of training in combat and mental fortitude come back from war as husks of their former selves.

one of the reasons i hate eva is that all of these god damn brilliant biological engineers and neuroscientists don't ever suggest that it might be a good idea for their pilots to have regularly scheduled therapy and psychiatric sessions to deal with the stress of battle.

these things are less important in other series where the plot is mostly an excuse to have action scenes but unforgivable in a series hinged on character development and the human condition.

>>138603676
No no, I get that bit, I know the population issues and that skillset/availability is a problem. But she literally had to ask what her screen was saying. There's no way they couldn't find someone that knew what they were doing, if only tenuously. Hell, she didn't even know her full duties!
Yet they a fleet, armed security force, engineers to work on the Eva units and a medical corp, yet they chose her? I don't buy it.

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>>138603705
:)

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>>138603760
It's an anime. We want an MC that is badass, someone to look up to and who can show us that it's alright to fight against impossible odds.
Instead we get crybaby mcpussy who's just a mirror image of the lowliest of the weeaboo scum.

>>138603760
>i don't see how any rational person can expect a teen in the middle of adolescence to be put into a warzone alone without any training with the heaviest burden one can place on a person to just "suck it up and be a man" about it when ADULT MEN with YEARS of training in combat and mental fortitude come back from war as husks of their former selves.

Child soldiers do it every day. In fact, they have less trouble than the adults. Shinji was basically inside a giant videogame machine, there was clearly a disconnect of reality. Not only that, but he was immune to direct pain, and had to fight non-human enemies who rarely even had humanoid form.

>>138604021
>Child soldiers do it every day.
They are also largely raised in that kind of environment. You make an irrelevant point imo.

>>138603760
If Shinji got therapy, he might not have awakened Yui, which was the lynchpin of Gendo's gambit.

Rei was programmable to an extent.

Asuka wasn't really important to anyone.

Also, therapy is not remotely a cure-all. It might have given them a better idea of just how fucked the kids were, but it probably wouldn't have been enough to unfuck them given the situations they were being forced into.

Finally, NERV was an organization of nameless grunts, revenge-crazed victims, and mad scientists driven by ancient alien knowledge that mankind was not meant to know. Not only were they not focused on the human factor, but they terribly mentally unsound themselves.

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>>138604016
>Instead we get crybaby mcpussy who's just a mirror image of the lowliest of the weeaboo scum.
I don't know. I think the average otaku would just cry on fetal position instead of get into the damn robot and everyone would die on episode 1

>>138604143
Well, you gotta be flexible in order to have a plot. Give and take.

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Would you get in the robot?
I would totally get in the robot.
I would make Asuka my lover.
I live in a fantasy world

>>138599146
The only people who hate shinji are chuunibyou who think that they would be badass superheroes with harems if they were in shinjis place.

pro-tip: they wouldn't

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>>138603760
>comparing Shinji's situation to a warzone
I hope you get sent to Somalia.

>>138604234
Same but replace asuka with Maya

>>138604143
Your brain can't immediately connect piloting a giant robot as dangerous. You'd need to see 2-3 people get killed in giant robots first because the concept is so foreign. Nobody would pussy out, even the interior of the entry plug looks like a fucking videogame.

>>138604016
medium, and genre as well, shouldn't have anything to do with it; suspension of disbelief should be based on the nature and intent of the story (i.e. we let more things slide in a story that takes place in a fictional world filled with different species of humanoids compared to something taking place on earth with mostly humans; character development is less important in a story that focuses on a goal or adventure than one focused on complex human interactions).

>>138604127
i'm not claiming that therapy would fix the problems created in the show. i'm simply stating that it's something that should have logically been included in the show that wasn't for no apparent reason.

on a side note: it would have been interesting if NERV did employ therapists for the pilots but were instructed to manipulate the pilots' psyches for NERV's purposes. i think this would add an interesting dynamic

>>138603334
He's /a/'s fantasy, being socially retarded yet still inexplicably getting all the women.

>>138604016
>It's an anime. We want an MC that is badass...

We? No, you don't get to state what everyone else wants because not everyone is the same.

That being said, not every anime requires your typical "badass character" anyway. Depending on the anime, your characters like Guts, Kenshiro, Gintoki, Goku, or Luffy are perfectly fine. In other anime a Shinji, Amuro, or Kamille are necessary for the plot.

>>138604219
I see Shinji more like a teenager that could end like an otaku rather than a full blown otaku. He's still 14 after all. Besides, otakus are hopeless

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>>138604125
I agree with your point if that point is that Japanese betamen couldn't pilot robots.

Toji seemed to be pretty gundam-esque about it, and that's why Anno didn't even give him a chance.
The entire point of this episode was to show that Shinji is atypically indecisive and flighty even for a normal person.

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>>138604381
>character development is less important in a story that focuses on a goal or adventure than one focused on complex human interactions
This was my mistake when I began watching Eva. I wanted cool robots fighting aliens. Still do so many years later. The show is one of my favorites, though, even If I would've handled it differently.

>>138604381
This is an excellent response.

Why the haters can't leave Eva alone? They can stick with the seasonal haremshit and forget about Eva completely. It's not worthy

>>138603034
She encouraged him at first but by the end of 2.22 she realises what is finally happening and that Third Impact is happening.

He didn't mean to activate 4th Impact you retard. He pulled the spears because he was desperate to undo the damage he had already caused. The only reason he went down into Dogma was because Kaworu promised they could change the world. Then at last moment he's all like "but shinji no... uh". Shinji's distraught.

>>138604381
2 things

>Japan
>Mental healthcare even in their fiction
kek

Also Kaji was their (unofficial) therapist and that's why everything went TUMBLING DOWN after he died.

>>138604381
>it's something that should have logically been included in the show
I just explained why it shouldn't have been included in-universe, and on a meta level it shouldn't have been included because it wouldn't have added anything to the show.

>i think this would add an interesting dynamic
There is an assload of psychological manipulation going on in Eva already, and it happens in a much more natural fashion than having Dr. Snidely Whiplash tell Shinji that he's a big idiot with a tiny penis who should just pilot the Eva so he isn't a complete waste of breath.

I prefer Ritsuko "forgetting" to give Rei her new ID card and sending Shinji to her over having a therapist tell Shinji that he should really try making contact with his fellow pilot, ja.

>>138601830
He's the Pimp of Pimps.

>>138604686
Also, Shinji was willing to talk with Asuka but she started acting like a ape

>>138604234
Oh hi me.

>>138599146
Me too n i aint crying or fapping to comatose girls about it :/

>>138599628
Kaworu

intelligent, nihilistic, and a wicked sense of humor

>>138604641
Except Evafags seem to think that Eva is haremshit too and post long introspective about the significance of Asuka touching Shinji's cheek, or blinking a certain way, because all the girl love MC amiright? Greatest romance show ever!

Where's that dildo chair from seitokai when you need it

>>138604756
They should've just killed Shinji though, since he's literally a harbinger of the apocalypse
>Angels are back
>So is Shinji
>Hesitate blowing Shinji up
>Not a month later and the world is being destroyed after 14 years of peace
>Oh looks, it's Shinji
>Try to blow him up again
>Nope, you killed the gay angel

>>138604795
and gay?

>>138604902
Fuck off, Anno. Instead of shitposting, give us a Godzilla trailer

>>138604902
And now you know why Eva 3.0 is shit.

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>>138604686
>She encouraged him at first but by the end of 2.22 she realises what is finally happening and that Third Impact is happening.
The point is that she encouraged him to take the actions that directly initiated Third Impact.

>there's a ball
>Shinji wants to kick the ball
>Misato yells at Shinji to kick the ball
>Shinji kicks the ball
>the ball flies through someone's window
>Misato tells Shinji he's a dumb cunt for ever kicking the ball
You can explain it by saying that it's been 14 years and she's forced herself to blame Shinji as a coping mechanism because shouldering the guilt of killing 99% of humanity is too heavy a burden on top of being in command of the remaining 1%'s hope of survival, but she's still being an unfair cunt. Two wrongs don't make a right and all that.

>The only reason he went down into Dogma was because Kaworu
Exactly. The moment Shinji's lord and savior started saying "bruh, shit might be fucked", Shinji should have at least hesitated. And when the destroyer of Shinji's buttpussy was like "SHINJI STOP YOU IDIOT", Shinji should have fucking stopped and let Kaworu talk.

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>>138605007
The fake 3.0 trailer looked several hundred times better.

>>138601256
Ah no actually he dies in the original TV script as well. This ep was before the show got pull out of the kids timeslot so jap TV censors wouldn't allow on-screen death of children.

>>138605111
It wasn't exactly fake. All that stuff most likely happened in between the two films.

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>>138605099
I'm fairly certain that Kaji was the only one besides Gendo/Fuyu/Seele who knew that the bio-robots weren't just bio-robots and could do biblical shit.

Misato must've assumed that Shinji knew too because he was the one who literally spent the most time inside of it.

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>>138605174
I doubt that without any serious evidence.

>>138605326
Ritsuko knew too but she started giving exposition after Shinji already started the third impact.

>>138605326
>Misato must've assumed that Shinji knew too because he was the one who literally spent the most time inside of it.
Maybe in hindsight that's how she justifies blaming Shinji as a coping mechanism, but I don't think that was her honest reaction. She was quite familiar with how clueless Shinji was, since she was pretty much the only one who told him anything.

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>>138605448
Ritsuko couldn't tell Misato because that would prove she'd been sleeping with Kaji in the Rebuild universe. Since only the upper echelons of Seele should be privy to that information. Spy pillowtalk is the best pillowtalk.

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>>138605507
Nah, it's just Anno telling the audience to hate Shinji in order to make easier for Khara to make spin-off without him. Shinji was already the most unpopular Eva pilot by a wide range but now the haters receive the complete and vocal support from the Eva staff and cast.

>>138605507
Yeah, nothing Shinji does is intentional in retrospect. But that's not going to stop people from hating him. Say a guy accidentally mows down your family in his new car because the brakes didn't work. It's not his fault but you can still blame him.

Shinji has bad luck for the most part. But the world would ultimately be safer without him, even if he's innocent.

>>138601655
It fused EoE with the series,but it had a more hopeful epilogue and a great resolution for Shinji as a character

>>138605602
I want an Evangelion where Asuka is the MC and Shinji doesn't exist. I want her to have long-ass self-deprecating instrumentality sequences and create an entire generation of girls that get their pussy juices on Kaji figma and then post them on 2ch.

>>138605655
>you can still blame him.
You can, but that's still a selfish coping mechanism that's unfair to the person you're blaming. Especially when you encouraged the guy to buy the car in the first place.

>>138604902
>Angels are back

Just pointing out, those things that attacked Asuka at the beginning and the Wunder crew aren't actual Angels. They're like artificial Angel-Eva things made by SEELE/NERV.

>>138605779
When did they say this? Whatever, still works the same
>Evil guys are back
>So is Shinji

>>138605092
Is the 4th movie even being made at all by this point?

>>138605099
You don't understand how utterly mindfucked Shinji is at that point. He doesn't give a shit, he's been offered a way out, to undo his mistakes and there's no way he's gonna let that hope be snatched out of his hands.

Misato encouraged him to save Rei, not to start the Impact. I imagine she must feel guilt, but she blames Shinji for the most part. He literally says when saving her that he doesn't care what happens to the world. She obviously cares for him still though, shown by her hesitation.

>>138604902
Shinji has the ability to completely ruin humanity's day, but he also has the ability to save it.

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>>138605969
>She obviously cares for him still though, shown by her hesitation.

And look what that got her.

>>138605877
They're called the Nemesis Series by Misato and Ritsuko. They're not necessarily "back", they imply these things have been following them for ages as they always retreat.

In the artwork book that came with my 3.33 copy the ones in space are also called Evangelion Mark. 04.

>>138606029
>but he also has the ability to save it.
When has he ever done that? And don't give me Yui's lines because Yui is more autistic than Shinji.

>>138604902
14 years of peace? The fuck nigga, the world is fucked and those Nemesis Series things are fucking shit up.

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>>138606068
Are you a spic? No one hates Shinji as much as a spic. I think it's an extreme reaction of being a nerd on a land full of machismo

>>138606068
>And look what that got her.
I'd be pretty satisfied to be able to see that happen in person,so it's not too bad

>>138606150
*14 years of no impacts

>>138605969
Turns out nervous wrecks on the cusp of psychosis aren't so controllable once they're agitated from doing all the fighting while you were trying to count to 2. Who knew?

>>138606168
Fucking spic weeaboos.
Fucking short, fat brownies at conventions with their half-assed cosplay attempts
Fucking obsessive little shits with no social awareness or attachment to reality

>>138605969
Kaworu basically mindraped Shinji with his yaoi powers to become completely dependent on him. If Kaworu told him to jump off a bridge, Shinji probably would have done it.

I can accept that Shinji ultimately goes for the spears because muh redo, but there is no justifying the complete lack of hesitation and outright rejection of Kaworu's concern. They were trying too hard to mirror Shinji's behavior in the Leliel episode, and failed to keep the context of the situation in mind.

>Misato encouraged him to save Rei, not to start the Impact
Saving Rei is what started the Impact. Hence the broken window in the ball analogy. It was a direct yet unintended result of Misato's urging.

Misato is just as at fault as Shinji, which is to say not really at fault at all. Neither of them had any idea that the ball would end up flying through someone's window.

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>>138606168
Ahh que pedo

>>138606218
In end of evangelion Shinji started instrumentality with some verbalized self deprecation.
>During this process, Shinji's states: "Nobody cares whether I exist or not... Nothing will change. So, everybody just die." This wish seems to manifest itself into reality, as Adam/Lilith proceeds to create an Anti A.T. Field which spreads across the globe, reverting all Lilith-based lifeforms into LCL.
The point is, you need to be very careful what you say around your robot.

>>138606218
Yeah, seems that way. Kaworu was pretty confused as to what happened to the Spear of Cassius, so it wasn't just counting but okay. There is an subtle bit of manipulation on Kaworu's part I think, throughout the film but Gendo fucked him over.

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>>138606168
>It's a spic thread

Let's do this

>>138606276
Lets agree to disagree. I think, personally it makes total sense for Shinji to pull the spears. Its all a matter of how dependent on Kaworu you think he is and how much he wants muh redo.

>>138606440
And Daimidaler is your kid who surpasses you in every way.

>>138606276
>I can accept that Shinji ultimately goes for the spears because muh redo, but there is no justifying the complete lack of hesitation and outright rejection of Kaworu's concern. They were trying too hard to mirror Shinji's behavior in the Leliel episode, and failed to keep the context of the situation in mind.
See >>138605602
It's about selling toys. Shinji doesn't sell by himself, therefore he must be exterminated. Kaworu has already proven to be able to sell by himself, not only as one half of Kawoshin.

>>138606449
Fair enough, anon. Just don't underestimate the power of gay piano magic. It could cost you your butt.

>>138606440
Ideon's influence on Evangelion is vastly overrated.

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>>138606168


AHHHHHH STOP.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>138606511
Kaworu's harem manga when?

>>138599146
CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
THESE WOUNDS WILL NOT HEAL

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>>138606553
I'll admit the one thing I don't think makes sense is when Kaworu tells Shinji after taking the collar off, that if they go into dogma and take the spears, changing the world is possible.

And then Shinji is like, "...Ohhh yeeaah! You know what, you're right! That makes perfect sense!" Even though he has no prior knowledge of the spears; except seeing Lilith impaled with one in 1.11.

>>138606667
I'VE BECOME SO NUMB I CAN'T FEEL YOU THERE

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>>138606611
Tomino himself is also an overrated hack. It's tragic how the greatest and one of the most influential mecha series of the 70s was overshadowed by the piece of garbage that is Mobile Suit Gundam

>>138606276
>but there is no justifying the complete lack of hesitation and outright rejection of Kaworu's concern

I always wondered about this. Shinji basically makes a complete 180 and disregard the friend he has been listening to and caring about for what is potentially months.

It was such an obvious ass-pull just to create another impact moment that would make the audience dislike Shinji even more.

>>138606655
If Anno didn't abandon Eva in favor of his dream project of directing a major toku production, most probably there'd be a Kaworu's harem manga now.

>>138606353
Kaworu contributed to put Shinji into that condition while withholding more information than he believed himself to know, Gendo let him think he was smart and cleaned house of Seele and their Child. Preview shoulda just been Gendo and a cigar.

>>138606761
Fun fact: Anno called Getter Robot as his personal bible when he was a kid

>>138606716
I TRIED SO HARD AND GOT SO FAR
BUT IN THE END IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER

>>138606655
Never. Die.

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>>138599628
Asuka

On the outside i act like Shinji but on the inside...

>>138606856
He had some damn good taste. It's also pretty interesting to see how Ishikawa's 90s stuff, namely Skull Killer Jakioh and Getter Robo Go, influenced Eva. I also felt he was able to craft these influences into a coherent story that stands on it's own two feet very well.

And then you have Tomino who makes an Eva clone, fails horrendously, and then complains about how Eva is bad while listing everything wrong with Gundam.

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>>138606353
How many times has Kaworu's head exploded and he wakes up in the coffin by now? Probably like the 11,000th.

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>>138606941
No, he's that inside, too.

>>138607120
>can only strangle an incorporeal Reiclone reconstruction of a person

Any news of 3.0+1.0?

>>138599884
>>138599628
I'd be Shinji but I'd actually leave when Shinji first says he will and I'd regret it up until 3rd impact happens (or doesn't happen? Maybe Rei would have gone along with Gendo's plan if Shinji left, I'm not sure)

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>>138601650
>>138605679
>nge manga
>good
Also Shinji's just a faggot in the manga. He's more tolerable in the show.

>>138599628
Adam

That is some nameless character named Adam that gets killed with the rest of humanity

>>138608604
What's supposed to be wrong with this image?

>>138601650
dude, the manga sucks ass.
It was literally a product to promote a show of 95-96 that ended up 20 years later! This implies that it was finished out of obligation rather than passion.

It was so shitty that it didnt even resolve the hedgehog dilema and Asuka was pushed as a side character rather than a main one.

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>>138608604
>Also
>implying that you actually added a counterpoint

Yeah he's really not more tolerable in the show. Unless tolerable means boring an predictable. Also it's funny that you argue that the manga is bad use Shinji's character as an example, since Shinji is possibly the least interesting person to exist in every single canon of Evangelion.

>>138605679
EOE had basically them returning and actually remembering what fucking happened. The scene was intimate and powerful one whilst the manga was bland.
It's like the manga author just placed what he liked and changed stuff the stuff for his liking without even understanding the proper concept of it.

>>138605779
They also call them blue bloods.

>>138606440
>>138606168
que mierda es esta? Quien sea que lo haya dibujado, porfavor pegate un tiro, pinche teto culero anti social.

Seriously this shit makes me cringe, it's so cringey it should be illegal.

>>138599628
I'd be some guy on the internet while they saved the world and whatnot

>>138610033
You're that shipperfag that shows up in every thread to counteract filenames-kun aren't you?

First of all, the manga was made as a companion. The two advertised each other.

Second, it's obviously not finished out of obligation because it took 20 FUCKING YEARS and wasn't wrapped up in a month.

Third Sadamoto regularly talked with the production staff all the way up until the end.

Fourth, it improves on almost every single character and actually makes it clear what's going on so delusional-kuns like you don't have cry-battles over your headcanons 4 threads a day.

Fifth, you are just mad because Kaji tanged Asuka.

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>>138600355
Vargas, the only living thing that was nice to that poor old man in years was puck, rip vargas

>>138610259
>PseduoKajifag pretending he's also an Asukafag is back
You, filenames kun and shippy mcfanfic could all die and these threads would improve a thousandfold. I gurantee it.

>>138610259
I dont know really, but no. The manga was concieved AFTER the fucking Anime. And was comissioned by Anno for it to be a piece of promotion.
>it improves on almost every single character and actually makes it clear
Sure thing by completely dehumanizing Asuka and sucking on Kaworu's gays scenes.
Admit it anon, it really piggy backed all it's way till the end with shitty changes.
>because it took 20 FUCKING YEARS
Sure not out of obligation, are you even literally listening to yourself? Or are you really that dumb?

>>138610445
>filenames kun and shippy mcfanfic
just what the fuck is going on here? ahahahah!
I have never seen so much mad in one thread.

Has there ever been an Eva thread that didn't turn into shitposting or a homolust thread

>>138610452
>The manga was concieved AFTER the fucking Anime. And was comissioned by Anno for it to be a piece of promotion.
So you're illiterate huh? Sadamoto was the fucking character designer from DAY 1
>According to an Interview from April 1996 which was published in the original Japanese Manga Volume 2, Sadamoto stated that he "wrote the script of the manga using the anime as a base", implying that the Evangelion anime was produced first (even though the manga was released first).

>Sure thing by completely dehumanizing Asuka and sucking on Kaworu's gays scenes.
Fuyutsuki, Gendo, Kaworu, Toji, Hikari, Kaji, Misato, Ritsuko. Or did you forget those were all characters?
>Sure not out of obligation, are you even literally listening to yourself? Or are you really that dumb?
Finishing a manga out of obligation means you whip out 3 chapters of copy+paste and move on you frothing retard.

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>>138610452
>>dehumanizing Asuka
>girl clearly doesn't like my self-insert
>dehumanized

You're stupid. Just fap to your ship somewhere else and don't bring down a manga because it doesn't feed into it. Asuka is more human, even her relationship with Hikari, Toji, and Kensuke is developed. She's no longer "Shinji's coed roommate" .

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>evangelion manga

>>138610989
Just another thing the anime pussied out on to be honest. Holding hands in the tub was stimulating enough for nip teens.

>>138611045
Kaworu and Shinji kiss in the episode 24 drafts, I guess they cut it out in the final product due to time issues.

>>138611185
Really? Why would they cut that out?

>>138611185
>due to time issues.
No, probably not, there's some heavy censorship going on in the scripts. Like Toji was supposed to be killed, and Asuka's suicide was supposed to be shown in full.

>>138611093
People hate the manga because it shuts down their delirious ships supported by implications given by surreal imagery and abstract dream scenes.

>>138611279
IIRC they were already in heavy water with the TV station so it makes sense they would want to play it safe.

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>>138611334
I can totally picture this going down
>"You told us it was a robot show..."
>"You said it was like Gundam and Getter Robo combined..."

>>138611334
Explain how they were in deep water

>>138611399
Because the show took a darker turn than Anno originally promised from the proposal

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>>138611446
I don't blame them, I can see how you'd think that after episodes like this.

>>138610033
>didnt even resolve the hedgehog dilema

What? It did it better than the anime. >>138601650

Do you know what the hedgehog's dilemma is?

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>>138611877
This page too.

>>138611913
>you will never help asuka out of a train as she stares into your eyes

>>138602468
>Lying on the internet

>>138610188
To be fair, la gran mayoría de los otakus hispanos piensan así. Take in consideration they actually believe DBZ was originally aimed to adults

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>>138612258
>you will never hold asuka's hand for too long and piss her off

>>138600059
Thad is dead anon
There's no way he could be in Taiwan or anything

>>138612547
>>138611913
I always liked this ending because it's kinda the anti-thesis to the "last two people on earth" vibe from EoE. Shinji and Asuka are separate people, with separate lives. They don't need to find a single happiness together, and they're not particularly bound to each other either, it's just a completely random occurrence in a world with infinite possibilities.

>>138612680
I liked the ending because Kensuke won the Shinjibowl

>>138610706
>So you're illiterate huh? Sadamoto was the fucking character designer from DAY 1.
Do you even know what Illiterate means? That fact doesnt change a thing. You are just made about that being the true, man up fagg.

I love how you call me illiterate but then make a quote proving myself right. Nice.

All of them getting spotlight it's not an excuse.
>Finishing a manga out of obligation means you whip out 3 chapters of copy+paste and move on you frothing retard.
Or basically keep doing it whenever you feel like for 20 fucking years.
Your mad as fuck, so get some cream or something for your ass, retarded twat.
>>138610852
Yes, she got de-humanized stupid. All she became there was a hollow copy of her Anime counterpart.

You attack like a cornered rat, barking bile cause your facts are feeble and desperate cherry picking. What a pathetic and lame human being. Go wank yourself in a sad corner of your room.

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>>138612867

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>>138612734
Kensuke probably fucks like 10-12 bitches over the series while everyone is off playing in robots.

Meanwhile he's filming amateur porn like "Hey babe cmon, what you got to lose? It's the end of the world... right? This could be or last day on earth babe... A giant tetrahedron exploded and flooded the city with blood yesterday, sex ain't a big deal...whaddya say?"

>>138611877
Do you even know?
EOE ending was powerful to the point of making one character break in tears because of the simple fact that he was given physical kindness while hurting the other.

THAT is how you end it.
>>138611913
Still it's mediocre as fuck and felt quite anti-climatic. Deus ex machina that fixes all.

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>>138612867
God you're stupid. Using words like "hollow" to describe absolutely nothing but your objectively wrong opinion. Asuka is nothing but the girl next door for a large majority of the anime.

I don't know how you can think Sadamoto just shilled this manga out, since it's closer to the original script than the kiddie version that got past the chopping block.

>>138612994
>>138612940

See what I mean? shallow hollow copy of her superficial self and not taking it anywhere. In the tv she is doing it because she wants to become and adult and seek validation and all that.
However the manga it's more superficial on those single aspects rather than the source of it.
Poof example it's the kaworu faggotry from it, the end without fucking context to the actual storyline and theme "hedgehog dilema"

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>>138613091
>objectively wrong opinion
I wouldnt say it's wrong since it is objectively - just to show what a shambling retard you are - but at least I am presenting fucking facks and not acting like an angry retarded cornered rat.

The kiddie version, sure m8. The "kiddie version" was original and had a solid context and resolved it's premise" manga has nothing of this. Now I am going to sleep, take a chill pill and some pomade.

>>138612966
>EOE ending was powerful to the point of making one character break in tears because of the simple fact that he was given physical kindness while hurting the other.

That's not the hedgehog dilemma, nor does it solve it. Since EoE is a non-ending, we literally have no idea whether or not Shinji and Asuka "could form relationships without fear of being hurt" which the manga clearly demonstrated was the case. And now you've brought an irrelevant discussion of the movie into your supporting argument when we're not discussing whether the movie was better or not, but the anime Neon Genesis Evangelion.

The manga completely beats the anime in every single aspect when viewed objectively.

You're just irrationally clinging to nostalgia.

>>138613250
All you've done is ad hominem without a single fact though.

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>>138613104
>Poof example it's the kaworu faggotry from it, the end without fucking context to the actual storyline and theme "hedgehog dilema"

Shinji and Kaworu getting physically intimate and then Shinji killing him was more hedgehog than fucking sonic.

Also I don't know what you're smoking because Asuka has all the same lines with Kaji as the original. The only difference is that we actually see how she enters the LCL. You're obviously a shipperfag because this is apparently such a decisive issue for you.

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>>138613252
>That's not the hedgehog dilema.
Nigga, did you even watch the fucking anime?
Throught all the series both of them keep hurting each other while being oblivious and where scared of doing so. It wasnt until the end where they just didnt give a fuck about it anymore and reached despite the hurt. Thus bringing it to an end.

If you think that was a none ending then you are really an illiterate or are an idiot. Everything there was solved and brought to a conclusion. The end of it shows us that anything can happen from then on and it's filled of uncertianity just as Shinji's and Asuka's future.
Now if you think "we have no idea that they formed a relationship then you are pretty biased or pleb
>2d4u
Then again it is supposed to show uncertianity to the future.

The manga demonstrated nothing except cheap piggybacking with a few differences here and there.
Cherry picking and gnawing your way out to escape out of total embarrasment of argument.
NGE and EOE are the fucking same. Why do you think it is called NGE:EOE??
>The manga completely beats the anime in every single aspect when viewed objectively.
That you like it more doesnt mean jackshit, manga was a piggy backed shallow and bland version and that IS a fact.
>Irrationality clinging to nostalgia
Oh anon, do you even know the meaning of irony or looking yourself at the mirror?
Gosh you are so stupid.
Have a gud nite.

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>>138613280
Are you even trying m8?

>Shinji and Kaworu getting physically intimate and then Shinji killing him was more hedgehog than fucking sonic.
This gave me heresy... Anon shinji and kaworu are not even hedgehog dilema. You dont even know what the fucking hedgehog dilema is for fucks sake, you really are dumb.

When two hedgehogs want to get close to each other to get warm but they get hurt or are afraid to get so, so they dont get close.
Never in Kaworu's and Shinji's relationship does this happen, only in Asuka and Shinji it does and it is perfectly resolved in EOE.

Well this is my last reply for the night because I have better things to do than to literally waste my time with retarded idiots that dont even know what they are talking about.

>>138613469
>Or are you really that dumb?
>man up fagg
>get some cream or something for your ass, retarded twat.
>cornered rat, barking bile cause your facts are feeble and desperate cherry picking. What a pathetic and lame human being. Go wank yourself in a sad corner of your room.
>sure m8
>not acting like an angry retarded cornered rat.
>take a chill pill and some pomade.
>Oh anon, do you even know the meaning of irony or looking yourself at the mirror?
>Gosh you are so stupid.

No please keep posting this is getting really funny. I can't believe you even posted the evageeks fanwank meme pic.

>>138611519
They should know better considering Anno's previous show was Nadia. Well, better for us that those broadcasters were incompetent as fuck.

>>138613593
How do you get heresy?

Shinji + Kaworu = Kaworu gets hurt and dies, Shinji gets hurt and laments

That's proof-perfect thesis of the hedgehog's dilemma. Nobody was even talking about End of Evangelion but you.

Having an entire monologue where Shinji decides to hold Rei's hand once more, and then holding Asuka's hand, helping her off the train, is overcoming the hedgehog's dilemma.

End of Evangelion's resolution is AT BEST implied and AT WORST he was just fucking strangling her.
Honestly I'd think that Asuka is a little hurt by the strangulation, I wouldn't say intimacy is not resulting in pain for her.

>>138613701
If Evangelion aired on a more mature channel maybe less faggots would've watched it though.

>>138613786
Back then TV anime was for general audience, mainly children. OVAs were for mature audience. Also, NGE aired right after TNMT

>>138599628
A male Misato.
That explains why I want to fuck best girl Shinji so bad

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>>138599628
Asuka

>>138612258
>>138612547
Stop. No more suffering.

>>138614074
All of the suffering.

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>>138613898
Eva definitely feels like a leftover from the 80s OVA boom at times. Especially with the setting.

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Can someone explain all the different layers of subtext to this image?
>Asuka smugly eating Kaji's watermelons
>Shinji being worried about Asuka eating Kaji's watermelons
>Misato looking at Asuka eating Kaji's watermelons and sighing while imagining Kaji with those watermelons in his shirt imitating breasts
>Rei staring at a single watermelon

I 'm confuse

>>138614133
Directors still had some influence on their cartoons back then and the anime studios wouldn't fall into bankruptcy until some years later so they still had a limited control over their products. The point is NGE wouldn't be done these days. It'd be some fartsy artsy 12 episodes anime that no one would watch or generic Urobutcher crap.

>>138614243
Also, the producer Otsuki supported Anno during the entire production and defend his vision. Again, this wouldn't fly these days. On 2007, Otsuki demanded Anno for a new female pilot for selling more merchandise

>>138614301
>implying Anno was still alive in 2007

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>>138599628
I'd be SEELE 04 (yellow guy) because I both sound and look like a bird.