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Why was it better than Zero?

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>>138592620
It wasn't.

Zero is so far the best anime adaptation of the Fate franchise. For the rest, read the VN.
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It's not.

One is made for chunni kids.

And another for us seinen fags with good taste.

I mean come on the source material was from a damn porn game
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>>138592620
Even you dont know why, nuff said /thread
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>>138592714
You act as though Zero is a spin-off of a porn game
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>>138592620
It wasn't. This is coming from a guy who finished the VN first, watched Zero and then watched UBW.
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As much as I like UBW Zero was definitely the better show.

I can watch it forever.
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>>138592775
Zero written by a different guy so i don't treat it as such.
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It wasn't. UBW is garbage.

The HF adaptation might be a different story.
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>>138592981
Butcher only written the characters, dialogue and edginess, the rest is nasu
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>>138592981
More than half of the things in zero are nasu things though.
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>>138592620
Fuck no. Zero was miles better.
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>>138592983
It's still will be about japanese teenager who trying to save his waifu.
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>>138593045
Atleast he was able to write good characters unlike a guy who just pandered to otaku fags with shitty archetypes.
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>>138592620
because it wasn't.
Shirou's a retard pass it on
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>>138593123
>Zero
>no archetypes

Anon.
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>>138593095
>save his waifu

In UBW Rin is pretty competent.
The only time I recal her needing saving was when she was kidnapped.

Sakura always needs saving.
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>>138592620
I didn't know I had a picture that fit this thread so well.
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>>138593312
>pholosophical
I could have sworn this was not in there the last time I saw it, kinda ruins the bait.
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>>138593312
Best bait pic in a long time.
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Because it was the original. So it's better. Plus it doesn't have as many retard fans who never even bothered reading the vn.
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>>138593312
nitpicking at it's finest
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>>138592620
They are both trash and the only thing worth while in the franchise is F/Kaleid Liner.
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Zero had the better adaption.
UBW S2 was a fuck up.

>>138593515
Stop trying to shove down the vn to people's throats.
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Sakura is in the poster ?
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>>138593632
I liked the Gil vs Hercules fight at least.
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HF > Zero > UBW
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>>138593699
This lad. Partly because it was the Illya route.
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>>138593640
>he doesn't know
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>>138593742
Then prisma is best
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>>138593632
It's not shoving it down. But it's the original version, and has many more details. Objectively the best/only way to view the franchise. It's fine if people don't want to read it, but then don't ask stupid fucking questions that are clearly explained in the VN. And you can't really say that Zero is better than anything else, if you never even bothered reading the thing you're comparing it too.
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>>138592620
Zero = HF > Fate >>>> Ubshit
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>>138593957
>UBW is shit
>zero,fate/HF route ranked higher
Delusional Saber/Sakura fag
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>>138593312
that is powerful bait anon
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>>138594055
>he hates sakura and saber
>calls others delusional
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>>138594157
Never said I hated them you autistic fuck
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>>138592620

They had more money, so they could actually animate some of it.
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>>138594181
>sperging
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>>138592620

Who cares
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>>138594157
>Sakura
>Your typical shy girl who is lusting after MCs dick

>Saber
>Your typical proud knight/person of high status who is also lusting after MCs dick

Thats their character in a nutshell
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>>138593640
Sakura's supposed to be completed absent from magic shit. at least from Shirou's perspective
Only in Heaven's funds will the public know she was a master all along
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>>138594329
Saber grew a dick and knocked her sister up with Mordred she's not very typical.
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>>138594329
yes anon, tsunderism is DEEP
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>>138594329
>Generical TsundeRin2000

Such a deep character.
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It wasn't tho.
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>>138594329
>anon
>unemployed, jobless NEET who's got no profession
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p-please don't fight oniichantachi.
Every fate has it's own good and bad, can we just get along?
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>>138594055
>delusional Saber fag

I wouldn't be surprised if the reason UFOtable did UBW instead of HF is because they were afraid of doing a route without Type-Moon's cash cow. Anyway:

Zero > HF > UBW >>>> Fate

>>138594329
Saber's character arc, which was really at its best in Zero, had nothing to do with Shirou. Ditto with Sakura's motivation in HF.
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>>138593938
Can you not read? I obviously implied that I read the VN and just said the second season was utter trash.

This is an anime/manga board so stop trying to expect anyone to have read it.
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>>138592620
3REI >> ALLLLL
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>>138593312
>barely enough Kotomine in action
How to spot a secondary.
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>>138592620
>Anime
Zero > Stay Night

>Visual Novel / Light Novel
Stay Night > Zero
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>>138595182
>>138595167
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>>138595059
And I wasn't implying you hadn't read it, I was speaking in a general sense. Also don't see what /a/ being anything has to do with this. The vn is the proper way to view the story, that's all. Doesn't matter if it's not an anime.
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>>138595179
Well if we're talking UBW then that statement is correct.
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>>138592620
UBW had better animation and OST, story is shit in both adaptations unless you're an edgy teen or a fujoshit.
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>>138592714
>one sex scene
>It's porn!
Is True Detective also porn? And Sopranos?
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>>138592714
>>138595970
UBW had one sec scene, Fate had 2 and HF had 3 or 4 and an assload of of dialog to imply sex because apparently nasu had to make up for lost time or something. As far as eroshit goes that's pretty tame

Doesn't Game of thrones have more sex than that? Normies love that shit
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>>138596361
But thing is, sex scenes specifically in this series are cringe worthy the way it's handled.
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>>138592620

Ok Anons let me tell you why Fate/Strange Fake is the best Fate series:

Just like Fate/zero it focuses on everyone not only the MC

The cast are even more diverse than Fate/zero with one master being a Animal.

Gilgamesh is one of the protagonist and his master is a Native American Loli

There is no Arthur to ruin everything

It has the best Caster in the fate series(personality wise)

Jack the Ripper and Flat are like Rider and Waver but in a twisted way.

Its not a sequel or a prequel so it wont unlike Fate/zero.

It barely has any Slice of Life scenes and its a full on Battle Royale


>BTW the King Arthur picture is wrong its King Richard the Lionheart not Arthur


>Tldr its like Fate/Zero on Steroids
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>>138596710
Where can I watch the whole season?
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>>138596710
Shittiest taste I've seen in a while.
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>>138592710
>Zero is so far the best anime adaptation of the Fate franchise.
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>>138597352
>Implying Prisma anime's any good
Not with that hideous artstyle
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One thing I definitely noticed and was disappointed by in Ufo's FSN was how cheap it often looked. Especially in action scenes, the figures often were noticeably crappy. This was then apparently prettied up by sprinkling bright, colorful flashes of light over everything that was going on.

The cinematography, also, was noticeably more flat and formulaic. It just didn't have the same punch that zero had; it wasn't as engaging.
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Another Zero vs F/SN thread?

How originaaaal
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>>138592620
No
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>>138597417
I do not think he was implying that, rather he was implying something else about Zero.
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>>138598459
Just like everything the Butcher writes
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>>138598459
You can wait another 40 hours for the big reveal instead.
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>>138598459
Faker. Make your own meme.
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>>138598744
Better?
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>>138598816
At least its something.
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>>138598935
>>138598689
Wait, what is this?
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>>138599193
Carnival Phantasm 2
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>>138599193
http://project-cosmos.jp/

Big reveal
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>>138594642
Saber, you... Are actually pretty cute. I wish you were less of a sperg, if it weren't for the fact that you are oblivious to so, so much things you could have been everyone's favorite.
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>>138599193
Notice the zeroes and ones, also Hakuno's command seal
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>>138596710
But SF Saber is King Richard
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I hated it, it's just straight up aciton without the SoL elements, how are you supposed to care for the characters in anyway if you've not read the VN?
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>>138596710
Is gilgamesh the most over used servant? He appears in pretty much ever route and alt reality as himself. Nasu got a fetish for overbearing blond guys that want to make him their bitch.
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>>138592620

It wasn't. Sorry to shatter your unknightly taste
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>>138592714
Fuck off

>>138592983

Read the VN


UBW = HF >>>>> fate >>> shit >>>>> zerofaggot
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>>138599844

Yes

But fatefags still considers Saber the protagonist of the Fate franchise. But Gilgamesh has appeared more than her
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>>138596710
>Gilgamesh is one of the protagonist and his master is a Native American Loli
Storming through Ataraxia and picking this the fuck up.
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>>138600992
Protagonism isn't necessarily tied to screentime
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>>138600820
Never watched Zero, got stuck on the first fight in thebook. I think I got triggered at how they disabled Saber's arm to make her not-OP but then had someone interrupt the fight for no reason for her not to die. I think that's what happened, but since I stopped, I don't know how the fight ended. This seems like bad writing, but I didn't care at all in the game because it had cute girls.
Is Zero even worth it if I liked girls more than fights\story?
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>Fatefags trying so hard to defend their shitty dating sim compared to a work depicting actual fantasy war
>they will resort to "muh characters" despite the huge character inconsistencies in the VN itself and how much of shitty characters most of the cast is (Kirei aside)
>they will resort to "muh themes and philosophy" when those themes are either not developed or useless
>they will resort to "muh writing" when Nasu's writing is inconsistent, full of plotholes or Deus Ex Machina, shitty teenage fanfiction level of suspense that gets rid of logic and have apparently bad choices become good ones and vice versa

The only thing Nasu had somehow down to a certain level is world-building. And then again, he failed at building cleverly by using all of those references to Western myths and making a big melodramatic deal out of them.
>ROLEPLAYING SHEETS
My sides. If you want your work to be taken seriously, don't use shit like this or powerlevels that are no even reliable because or the "the enemy has to be threatening some way" trope. Saber was said to be great but she always jobs.
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>>138597417
He is right thought, while art style is debatable prisma and zwei are pretty fucking spot on and ufotable did some stupid, pointless changes and cuts in second season of Zero, it also had some problems with pacing. Also, all I wanted was milf in black dress and all world's evil, instead ufo gave me damn uncreative, boring looking beach.
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>>138599264
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>>138600992

Spare my eyes this unsightly apparition
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>>138601304
If the girls are an important factor, Zero is dead last in that regard. Iri's the only good one. Saber's dull as a rock in Zero, Aoi is worthless, Sola's a cheating bitch, and the rest barely appear.
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Who /sakura/ here?
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>>138602232
>not getting worm shots
Top kek
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>>138601558
>shitty teenage fanfiction level of suspense that gets rid of logic

This is really something I noticed in FSN. The way suspense is conveyed scene by scene is inconsistent with the severe, life or death circumstantial setting, and more often than not comes across as adolescent, and contextually inappropriate.
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