[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | | Home]

Daily Japanese Thread DJT #1460

This is a blue board which means that it's for everybody (Safe For Work content only). If you see any adult content, please report it.

Thread replies: 569
Thread images: 84

File: djt.png (198KB, 1000x750px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
djt.png
198KB, 1000x750px
Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
http://bitlasers.com/djt

Previous Thread: >>138553300
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
The Conservative party, the modern Conservative party, is on the side of people who want to work hard and get on.
>>
おっっっっっそい
>>
huh
>>
>>138591339
Just because a quote has the phrase "work hard" in it doesn't necessarily make it inspire me to work hard.
>>
File: easy.jpg (518KB, 640x960px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
easy.jpg
518KB, 640x960px
>pick up adult book
>hard as fuck due to all the vocab I don't know
>decide the VNs I've been reading (moege, chill type stuff) don't have high enough vocabularies since I know so many of the words in them
>pick up Sayounara o Oshiete because it's an adult novel and I'm interested in it
>its vocabulary level is just as low as moege
What the fuck? So many conflicting experiences.
>>
File: からー.jpg (78KB, 639x433px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
からー.jpg
78KB, 639x433px
>>
>there are people browsing this thread RIGHT NOW who can't write kanji
>>
>>138591511
It's almost as if different people write things differently and for different audiences.
>>
>>138591511
It's like they are different authors! And they write differently!
>>
File: 1425661376139.jpg (1MB, 1076x1137px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1425661376139.jpg
1MB, 1076x1137px
誰の音楽が好きですか
>>
>>138591584
>>138591614
Derp
>>
>>138591547
Reviewing ahead messes up things right? What about reviewing forgotten cards?
>>
File: 03_honki.png (28KB, 320x480px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
03_honki.png
28KB, 320x480px
>>138591520
>>
>>138591636
Yes
No, that helps
>>
>>138591627
cute :3
>>
>>138591673
Good. Thanks.
>>
>>138591673
>Yes
Uh, seriously? How so? I started Anki earlier this week and I review ahead whenever I want to study but don't want to learn any new cards. I'm worried now...
>>
>>138591433
The fault lies with your programming then. You're still young, though, so you still have time to fix it.
>>
>>138591854
SRS shows you cards right before you forget them. Therefore, reviewing ahead is reviewing cards too early, which therefore increases your chance of remembering them and thereby decreases the effectiveness of SRS. It's not a *huge* fuckup but it's not something you want to do because it doesn't actually help you, whereas reviewing forgotten cards is targeting all your weak points and leaving the SRS algorithm largely untouched (since you're reviewing cards on 1-3 day intervals anyway).
>>
>>138591547
I'm sure everyone here can write 人 or 日 or something similiar
>>
Does CoR have Spice and Wolf in txt format? I can't seem to find it. I have the regular html one, but I want to convert txt to vertical html with JNovelFormatter.
>>
>>138591965
Oh, gotcha. So if I still have some free time left after my daily study session, I should review forgotten cards instead of reviewing ahead, right? Well, or study grammar or read something, but I actually like Anki for some reason.
>>
If I have a custom study deck set to review all forgotten per day, will it automatically populate itself, or will I need to manually recreate it each day?
>>
File: handwriting.png (16KB, 1559x610px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
handwriting.png
16KB, 1559x610px
>>138592073
Damn straight, my niglet.
>>
>>138592134
> I actually like Anki
Give it a few months
>>
File: shigeru-miyamoto.jpg (66KB, 492x343px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
shigeru-miyamoto.jpg
66KB, 492x343px
>>138592181
>>
With adjectives, can you say either "悲しかったです" or "悲しいでした"?

The first one sounds kind of childish to me
>>
大毘盧遮那成仏神変加持経
>>
>>138592336
First one is the more polite form
>>
>>138591547

fuck writing kanji

we TYPE them!

and all we need to master is memorizing KANJI RADICALS and then mix 'em to lookup kanji
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/midori-japanese-dictionary/id385231773?mt=8
>>
>>138592377
金剛頂経
>>
>>138592336

You can't correctly use 悲しいでした.
>>
>>138592378
>>138592464
Fair enough
>>
>>138592182
Eh, you're probably right, but I hope not. So far it's been pretty enjoyable.
>>
Does よかった always indicate a personal preference about something?

Like in DOJG they have the sentence of: この本を読めばよかった. Does it necessarily mean "I wish I had read that book" rather than "I should have read that book"?
>>
Has anyone here played the 英雄伝説 / 奇跡 games? How difficult are they?
>>
>>138593324
They're JRPGs
>>
>>138593324
Insane amount of text and made up vocab.
>>
How do I politely address someone who I only know by online handle or chat name? Do I just slap the usual suffixes onto their handle (asdf1993さん) or is it okay to use あなた in instances such as this?
>>
>do 40 new cards a day
>can't mine enough to keep up
the struggle
>>
>>138593353
Thank you for your insight, but I was referring to their reading level.
>>
>>138593380
So in other words very difficult? Aw man.
>>
>>138591547
My calligraphy is already bad as it is.
>>
>>138593425
>Mine easily 100 words a day
>Only do 20 new cards to keep reviews low

Vocab backlog feels bad
>>
>>138593526
I had a backlog of ~1000 but I blew through it in one month of doing 40 new cards a day
>>
>>138591547
No shit, learning how to write got me laid.
>>
逝け面
>>
>>138592127
>I have the regular html one
Isn't that, you know, text? Couldn't you just remove the HTML tags?
>>
>>138592856
That sentence carries that nuance due to the ば part, not the よかった part by itself.
>>
>>138591339
Such a qt
>>
>>138592134
>I actually like Anki for some reason
Be careful to not fall in the Anki-only trap
>>
>>138594010
This doesn't exist.
Fuck off with this bizarre strawman.
People don't study Japanese to use Anki, they use Anki to help them with Japanese.
>>
>>138594010
What do you mean?
>>
File: 1389907145907.jpg (149KB, 765x498px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1389907145907.jpg
149KB, 765x498px
>>138594118
It certainly does exist. Never underestimate incompetence.
>>
>>138594118
I used to be pretty deep in the anki trap, I can definitely see how some people could be prone to it
>>
>>138594145
Some people stay on anki forever and never read for example.
>>
File: wut.jpg (12KB, 190x209px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
wut.jpg
12KB, 190x209px
Repping mature cards from core after reading a lot feels really bizarre sometimes.
What the fuck are those definitions?
>>
>>138594145
People using Anki that never stop learning useless kanji.
>>
>>138592856
What does DoJG said? The former or the latter? Just follow DoJG then. Sorry I can't help more than that.
>>
File: 1389449177198.png (660KB, 626x899px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1389449177198.png
660KB, 626x899px
The anki trap isn't just deciding to never read, or just focusing all efforts onto anki. Rather, the anki trap tends to be the tendency to do pittance amounts of reading alongside anki, without realizing how insignificant that reading is. For example, slowing going through manga at a pace of a couple pages a day, or opening a VN but leaving it in the background without ever really sitting down and going through it, that kind of thing. The daily laziness that adds up to months passed with practically nothing to show for it... except anki.
>>
File: 1452421421402.jpg (94KB, 599x800px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1452421421402.jpg
94KB, 599x800px
>trying to play Pokemon Black 2 in Japanese
>It's a pain in the ass looking up the pixelated kanji.

Is there like, a link to the game's script online or something? It'd be so much more enjoyable if I could read the script and copy and paste unknown kanji.

Thank you
>>
File: kanji.jpg (2KB, 45x53px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
kanji.jpg
2KB, 45x53px
>>138594606
You don't know shit son
>>
>>138594289
If you don't know the answer, just don't respond, please.
>>
How hard would it be to get the dialogue from a VN, have a program automatically parse all words from it, add info from a dictionary and input them into anki cards in the order of appearance?

I would imagine something like this would be useful for creating a vocab deck of whatever you are planning on reading so you could learn all the words before actually reading
>>
>>138594526
Are you saying you spend days reading 2 pages of manga? Or is this some fictional anki trap you've invented?
>>
>>138594755
時 i'm assuming? But yeah, it sucks. Struggled to even read 帽子 because of my inferior gaijin pixel recognition.
>>
>>138594866
You're probably better off waiting until you know all the words in the japanese language before you attempt to read anything.
>>
>>138594755
時?
>>
>>138594526

When you're at the stage when the only reason you can't read fluently is you don't have enough vocabulary, then it doesn't matter how much you read really.
>>
>>138594883
It's just a bizarre form of confirmation bias to mend some inner struggle or shortcoming. It's not uncommon in these threads.
>>
>>138594943
Rather, it especially matters how much you read, because every scrap of exposure is jam-packed with unknown information that makes reading incredibly efficient study.
>>138594969
Do you even believe what you're saying?
>>
>>138595040

If you're not retarded you can figure it out anyway.
>>
>>138594923
>>138594933
Fuck I never would have thought it was that, kind of misleading pic though the context makes it pretty easy to tell most of the time
>>
>>138595040
>Do you even believe what you're saying?
No.
>>
>>138594526
That doesn't have anything to do with anki, though.
>>
>>138594866
Pretty easy, depending on the VN engine.
>>
>>138594929
This. "Read more" is a meme. Don't believe anything you hear from anyone but me and this anon. Do not attempt reading until you're fluent.
>>
>>138594825
Following what DoBG said is a legit answer, please.
>>
>>138594606
Play a better game at a decent resolution.
Nintendo's shit is always eye cancer.
>>
Why is the advice only to read and not to listen to any spoken Japanese?
>>
When you use Anki real time import while reading a VN and you get a word that has no audio, what do you do ?
Especially if the character who used the word doesn't have a VA.
>>
>>138595463
Reading is easier to texthook. Podcast and radio talks have no subtitles.
>>
>>138594265
Maybe you shouldn't cut the definition.
>>
>>138594606
What you'll want to do is to just emulate it and zoom the fuck in. Pretty sure you can get text hookers to work with emulators as well.
>>
>>138595347
I asked that question in order to clarify something written in DOJG. Telling me to just read it when you clearly do not know the answer on your own is not helpful.

At any rate, DOJG provides translations solely in the form of "I wish I had..." though after reading other sources it's clear that either "I wish I had..." or "(I) should have..." can work as the intended meaning. So simply going along with DOJG would have provided an incomplete understanding.

So, please don't give instructions like that unless you know fully that DOJG is completely correct, because otherwise you're just filling the thread with bad advice.
>>
>>138595517
What? "Ornamental" is supposedly core's definition for the word.
>>
>>138595463
You can watch TV shows or movies, so long as they have Japanese subtitles. You want to be associating the pronunciation and sound of the characters with the shape of the characters. When you read you should sound out as you read to help build that association.
Just listening to people speak won't help you learn the language, why do you think we stress such an importance on learning to write kana first?
>>
>>138595598
Okay I will be helpful now.

> この本を読めばよかった
>I wish I had read that book

> この本を読むべきだった / この本を読んだほうがよかった
> "I should have read that book"

>Does よかった always indicate a personal preference about something?
No.

You sure are really rude and acting like an ass. I hope I won't ever have to answer your questions ever again in the future even if by accident, anon. Goodluck with your study.
>>
>>138595762
>When you read you should sound out as you read
I take it you mean 'speak out loud' instead of 'sound out'?
>>
Would 20 be a good pace to go through the DOJG deck? I already know most of the basic one so I'll just delete those that I already know well. I'm wondering if it's not too fast/slow, since those aren't just words but grammar explanation too. I'm normally doing 50 cards a day for vocabulary but I don't think I could do the same for grammar. How many new cards do you guys do each day for the DOJG deck?
>>
File: images-6.jpg (9KB, 300x168px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
images-6.jpg
9KB, 300x168px
Im leaving for boot camp tomorrow morning.

Bye everyone!
>>
>>138595762
>>138595509

Language aquisition is naturally through listening, though.
>>
>>138595867
Didn't you flunk out of boot camp once already?
>>
>>138595867

How are you going to do your reps, though?
>>
>>138595827
I did 20 a day for the basic cards since I knew them, dropped to 10 when I got to intermediary and am now doing 5.
But that's because I read the whole entry for every card every review, which makes them take forever.
>>
>>138595881
That was booty camp, and I lost my anal virginity on the receiving end.
>>
>>138595869
>naturally
usually
>>
>>138595867
Make sure to write to us friend
>>
>>138595814
No, sound out the characters individually then speak the line.

>>138595869
Yes, and it is possible to learn languages by listening, but you don't want to be illiterate.
>>
>>138595909
Okay, thanks for the feedback anon.
>>
File: imouto.jpg (42KB, 854x480px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
42KB, 854x480px
>>138591627
はなやかさなら

ドビュッシーがすきだよ

世間の認識としてはにほんじんはだいたいベートーベンが好き
>>
>>138595926

I doubt you can teach a child to read before they can talk.

>>138595958

I've learnt vocabulary through anki, so I can obviously read it as well.
>>
I'm listening to this *amazing* whale rape sounding memory improving "music" with literally tens of millions of views. I'm sure to memorize things at first glance now.
>>
>>138596124
Seems legit
>>
>>138596124

>he thinks Japanese sounds bad

Chink detected.
>>
>>138595881
No. I didn't get into boot camp. I stayed at home when they were picking me up back in early June to get a physical. Now I am oathed in and everything. I could still flunk though.

>>138595905
I can do them after two months. That's when I can all of my old stuff like my laptop and phone and everything.
Im still going to make it. Boot camps just a setback for two months on lifting weights and reps so they can push the military mentality on you.

>>138595927
Will try too. I don't like to blog too much but my endgoal is too go to Japan but I'm going to keep learning before I go there.

Maybe even swallow my pride and study with a 3DPD.
>>
>>138595981
いもうとさんのパンツはどんな色ですか
>>
>>138596115
What about children who grow up and still can't talk due to some diseases/disabilities?
>>
File: imouto.gif (879KB, 500x283px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.gif
879KB, 500x283px
>>138596230
縞パンなんて買うの恥ずかしい
>>
>>138595958
>No, sound out the characters individually then speak the line.
ah i got you
>>
>>138596253

>I'm implying my technicality that is obviously a non-representative outlier somehow disproves the point being made that applies to the overwhelming majority because I'm insufferable and have to prove myself "right" at any cost

しなくていいよ。
>>
>>138596224
Which branch are you joining? Are you going to try and get a placement in Japan? I hear the raping's good in Okinawa.
>>
>>138596293
私は買ってあげます
いもうとさんはいつも役に立ちますから
>>
Hi, I'm deaf. Anyone has good resources on Japanese Sign Language? Since I'm moving to japan in a year or so, apart from learning how to read the language I want to actually be able to communicate with (some) people.
>>
>>138595867
what rate are you signed up for?
>>
>>138596509
I think your best bet would be to look for resources in Japanese.
>>
>>138596509
If you're deaf how can you type?
>>
>>138596509
きけない
>>
>>138596590
If you're mute, how can you see?
>>
File: 1457173751041.jpg (124KB, 748x845px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1457173751041.jpg
124KB, 748x845px
>>138596400
Navy. I love a good raping tbqh...
Im going to okinawa hopefully. Even if I don't im military so I get good advantages and privileges.

>>138596510
E1
I did things really dumb but whatever. I can move up in rankings while im there even those I regret not doing everything corrctly when I had six months. My cardio isn't even up to shape.

Ill figure it out though. This might seem stupid but it never really occurred to me that im in the navy until like today because I blocked everything out and bluepilled myself.

O well this is a second chance for me.
>>
>>138596509
What does a deaf gaijin speaking Japanese sound like?
>>
>>138596756
i mean like what job?

don't tell me you went Undesignated ?
>>
>>138595867
How many days until you commit suicide? Three?
>>
>>138596775
Probably close to that generic chinese voice that filthy normies put on to represent the entirety of asia
>>
File: 1447302442578.webm (602KB, 288x420px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1447302442578.webm
602KB, 288x420px
>>138595867
If you give me your address I will write letters to you at boot camp.
>>
File: 1452654409977.png (192KB, 267x264px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1452654409977.png
192KB, 267x264px
>>138596815
Yeoman
Basically an administrator on a ship doing paperwork and whatnot. I can't even swim tbqh but im not afraid.
>>
>>138596926
>administrator on a ship
>I can't even swim
Have fun
>>
>>138596926
>I can't even swim
What the fuck.
Can you at least float?
>>
File: 1454961318145.jpg (61KB, 500x375px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1454961318145.jpg
61KB, 500x375px
>>138597083
>>138597136
No. I've never been into the deep end. It actually scares me to no end but in order to go to Japan its all worth it. I tried but im too scared of it when doing it alone. I mean everyone says it's retardedly easy im just being a pussy so when they push me off the fifteen foot rock or whatever ill figure it out.

They also teach you there so whatever. Nothing I do at boot camp even matters once its over.

If I fail though im probably going to kill myself out of shame.

Its all worth the risks for a better future and Japan.

Im not afraid...
>>
>>138597136
Nope, but he sure can shit post anime girls, so of course he's prime Navy material.
>>
>>138597322
You're... you're fucking retarded.
>>
>>138596756
>I love a good raping tbqh...
Have fun getting kicked out once you get caught posting this kind of shit on base.
>>
>>138596926
YN, huh. well you have a rate guaranteed at least, so that's good at least.

don't worry, they will teach you how to swim, how to float, etc.

assuming you make it through, they will send you to a school and then send you on your way to your first duty station.

Two notes to help you get to glorious nippon.
DO NOT sub vol. They will spring this on you a few days in. There are NO submarine bases in Japan. If you go sub you will vastly increase the number of ships you can be stationed on that are not in Japan.

MAKE SURE that you elect to pay into GI Bill. (they take some money your paycheck for a year or something like that). The value of this cannot be understated -- once you get out, you will be able to go to any college in america you can get into, essentially for FREE, as they will pay all housing, food, books, and tuition for 36 months. (This means if you don't make it to glorious nippon in the navy, you'll still be able to go to college when you get out and do a foreign study (year abroad type stuff) to make it anyways. And it'll be a better experience anyway since you won't be a grunt in the Navy.)
>>
>>138596926
Dude, you're going to fucking fail the fitness shit if you can't swim. Your navy career is going to be even shorter than your tiny dick.
>>
File: 1456887726204.png (105KB, 232x375px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1456887726204.png
105KB, 232x375px
>>138597429
At some point in life I just need to do it. Im not afraid but really im scared as shit. Who knows man. Im the dumbest person in the entire world but at least I have heart.

>>138597748
Yeah if I make it through which I should be able too tbqh im going to do job training. I want to get my four year even if I go to Japan so I at least am welcome there to become a citizen if needed even if all else fails. Thanks for the advice...

Were you in the military before?
>>
>>138596756
I'm about to go to Okinawa soon, I highly doubt you're going to go there for first orders.
>>
>>138592279
a fucking cabinet
>>
Is there an easy way to export kanji from a KD deck to a text file to import it into KanjiWordAssociationTool?
>>
>>138594213
How in the fuck? RTK was tailor made to be as easy as possible. You'd have to have fuckin' Alzheimer's for it it to be that difficult.
>>
>>138598137
It's the most beautiful 日 we've ever seen.
>>
>>138598024
I was an Electrician's Mate in the nuclear field (a "nuke", as you'll hear).

They'll give you this form where you indicate what duty stations you prefer. Not sure how much attention they actually pay to that though. There's like 25 or so ships stationed there right now, I think, spread between three bases. Sasebo, Okinawa, and Yokosuka. Good luck.

Fwiw I had some acquaintances get stationed in japan for first orders so it's possible.
>>
>>138599510
Thanks bro were all going to make it!

I mean I am not expecting or demanding anything but Japan is where I want to go.
>>
“You know nothing? Do you see nothing? Do you remember
“Nothing?”
I remember
Those are pearls that were his eyes.
“Are you alive, or not? Is there nothing in your head?”
But
O O O O that Shakespeherian rag—
It's so elegant
So intelligent
>>
Well I took a Japanese class last semester and it really kind of put a bad taste in my mouth. I don't know what I expected but it was filled with the tumblr girls that find Anime empowering and casual obnoxious weebs. I kind of went on a hiatus from the /jp/ side of myself and started learning Spanish instead of Japanese for about 6 months now. I stopped finding Asians attractive and everything. However, I'm not sure what's happening but I feel like it's coming back to me. I don't know why. I feel yellow fever again, I want to go to Japan again, I have the urge to learn the language again. I don't care to watch Anime or anything though so it's not a weeb feeling. Have you guys experienced this? It's kind of odd to me as I thought it was just a phase that I was able to grow out of.
>>
>>138599937
Not exactly this but I first wanted to learn Japanese in 2010. I tried for three months but I soon gave up as soon as I stopped reading manga and watching anime. I started doing that again in 2015 and in the summer, I started learning Japanese again. (I sticked to it, ever since.)
>>
>>138599937
Why would you learn Spanish?
>>
>>138600199
It's relatively easy to learn so I thought about giving it a shot
>>
Would Japan be interested in me?
>American male
>N2 working on N1
>Currently work as HVAC apprentice
>Worked as data scientist and low voltage tech.
>Math knowledge include precalculus, calculus, linear algebra, statistics.
>Programming languages include Python, PERL, Ruby, R, C, Java.
>Databases include PostgreSQL, Cassandra, mongoDB, MySQL, CouchDB
>DataWrangler, ggvis, Vega, tableau, Spotfire, R Markdown
>Hadoop, MapReduce, Apache Spark
>Solidworks
>compulsive liar, CAP cadet, Shogi player and a bunch of other crap
>>
>>138600249
So your only motivation is learning another language just to learn something? Don't you have at least some specific goals (i.e. reading something, watching T.V).
>>138600288
>>>/adv/
>>>/int/
>>
>>138599937
>Have you guys experienced this?
I'm not retarded, so no.
>>
>>138600288
Why are you asking neets on /a/ about this?
>>
>>138600288
depends on what job for, I don't see why not

Unless you are obese/ugly.
>>
>>138598024

Off yourself with your blogging. No one cares faggot.
>>
Do you guys think reading lyrics would be good practice alongside manga/VN?

When learning English in school I used to look up and read the lyrics of all the English songs we listen to on the radio
>>
>>138600288
Do you have a degree? I'm like postive you have to have a degree to get to stay.
>>
>>138600364
DJT is full of normalfags, though
>>138600421
Yeah it's great. There are certain words that are used all the time and you'll memorize them pretty fast.
>>
>>138600331
I'm in the southern US so it's actually pretty helpful to know. I also started to try to impress a qt Spaniard at my uni - didn't work. I have a pretty good knowledge of another language though so I didn't really lose anything.
>>
>>138600288
None of that matters, become a translator and English tutor. The point in getting a job in Japan is that you can get a piss easy job because you're a fluent English/Japanese speaker.
Trust me, you don't want to be programming or doing any of that desk work. They'll overwork you for shit pay and you'll have no time to actually live. If you want a shit job, get one in the west where you might actually get reasonable hours.
>>
>>138599937
Japanese classes are always cancer. At least the satisfying thing is, if you stick with it you'll find they ALL drop out to about one or two people.
>>
>>138600288
Best tech resume I've seen in months. As long as you have a degree in literally anything, you will probably find a job in japan fairly easily. Just avoid the women for several years until you REALLY understand the culture there.
>>
>>138600548
Then, do you simply skim through textbooks? Do you read sometimes?
>>
>>138600582
As long as you don't get a job in the tokyo metro you won't necessarily run into this. Just ask around about your prospective employer before you jump on the job.
>>
>>138600582
>They'll overwork you
I can attend for this comment.

>for shit pay
that depends, but it is possible.

>and you'll have no time to actually live.
this is true.
>>
今日も頑張りましょう、名無しくんたち!
>>
>>138600288
リア充死ね
>>
>>138593416
asdf1993さん is fine, with あなた it may feel a bit crude. Just take a look at some YT comments and you'll see they prefer the さん usage.
>>
>>138594265
>ornamental
yeah what the actual hell. I had to check my actual deck just now to make sure I didn't enter that wrong.
glad I just mined from the start

also core doesn't have multiple definitions, right?
like ただ is just "free" or something right?
ただ has multiple contexts and means free not much of the time.
>>
>>138600752
It has two separate cards for ただ, one "free" and one "simply, merely".
>>
>>138600876
>two separate cards for ただ
What a scam.
>>
>>138600996
Core has a bunch of those if I remember correctly
>>
>>138600288
>compulsive liar
I hope you have solid proof of all your skills
>>
File: imouto.gif (437KB, 500x280px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.gif
437KB, 500x280px
>>138600876
ただただ
all I could do be
>>
可愛い漢字
>>
>>138601476
ただただ単に妹とエッチがしたいだけ
>>
ついANKIに「暗記」を加えた!
>>
If I'm in my first week of Anki should I worry about the example sentences right now?
Do people end up memorizing them as well as the kanji and meaning?
>>
>>138602123
Sentences are only there for context on how the word is used. You don't have to memorize them
>>
>>138601928
お前、本当に賢いね。
>>
djt.jpg
>>
>>138602273
I can't read that ;_;
>>
>>138602123
Yeah, don't even worry about the definition of the word on the card. All you have to do is perfectly memorize 10,000 unique Japanese example sentences and your brain will automatically make you fluent.
>>
File: 1428701439428.png (641KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1428701439428.png
641KB, 1280x720px
>>138602358
あんたの語彙を少なさに改めて驚かされる。
>>
>>138602410
>を
>>
>>138602123

The only things you need to know are:

How it is written
>eg: 書き方
How it is pronounced
>かきかた
What it means
>way of writing

Anything else on the card is for clearing up ambiguity or anything else - they should be ignored most of the time.

You should ideally be making your own deck, as premade ones tend to be full of absolute shit that is counter productive.

Cards should be as simple as possible, and omit anything that's uncommon usage - that can come later.
>>
>>138602488
Whoops
>>
Looking up kanji in low-res games is a bitch. What's this kanji here?
>>
>>138602638
Who knows?
>>
>>138602638
Looks like 無
>>
File: kanji.png (17KB, 454x102px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
kanji.png
17KB, 454x102px
>>138602638
Forgot pic.
>>
>>138602695
What game?
>>
Rare kanji:
>>
>>138602807
Popolocrois Monogatari. Charming game.
>>
>>138602823

Damn, it didn't work.

IME can convert "おばけ" into a ghost.
>>
>>138602860
Microsoft or Google?
>>
>>138603077

MS.
>>
>>138601476
Is it because only simpletons can be truly free in Japan.
>>
Do any of you read Japanese novels? Any recommendations?
>>
Who the fuck though assigning the exact same kanji to five different words was a good idea?
>>
>>138603387
same guy who thought giving "work" 60 different definitions was a good idea
>>
>>138602860
Post picture. My IME doesn't have it.
>>
>>138600504
Fuck off.
>>
>>138603424
>Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo
全然無理!
>>
>>138603208
It's hard to recognize novels because you'll struggle with the good ones too much to enjoy them, you know? Novels are pure text so if you're bad at reading you're going to have a bad time. So it's tempting to recommend mediocre novels like ドラゴンキラーあります or 無職転生.
>>
File: ghost.png (46KB, 550x624px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
ghost.png
46KB, 550x624px
>>138603424

They're all pronounced identically and have similar meanings.

Compare it to fucking 実

>>138603448

おばけ
>>
>>138603538
>recognize novels
Recommend novels, I mean.
>>
>>138603579
spooky
>>
>>138603387
A lot of those words are common words
Kinda like for Hello in English we have
Hi, Gidday, Howdy, Wassup
there are a bunch of alternates
>>
>>138602638
>>138602695
Nobody?
>>
>>138603710

Not comparable.

I can't think of a noun in English that has two significantly different pronunciations and meanings, yet is written the same way.

Specifically a noun, because verbs and adjectives are extremely obvious almost all of the time.
>>
>>138603728
What's the kanji before the one you can't figure out?
>>
>>138604078
旅 isnt it
>>
>>138604070
Idk if "read" counts, but there is stuff you have to tell on context like "tick" "cock" "park"
>>
>>138604302

Read as a verb is obvious from the tense. As a noun, it is obvious from the sentence structure.

Those others are all pronounced the same in all contexts.
>>
>Japanese don't make a distinction between legs and feet
>>
>>138604566
>japanese don't make a distinction between blue and green
>>
>>138604494

Oh, I thought of one: tear.
>>
>>138604566
>Japanese don't make a distinction between Koreans and dogs
>>
>>138604566
Context solves many of these mysteries.

>>138604651
This is a bit confounding, though. I'm sure someone who knows more than me could explain.
>>
Does the word 呪術 have any implication of pyromancy? Or it's just any magic generally?
>>
>>138604651
>Japanese don't make a distinction between cock and cook
>>
>>138604651
>what is 緑
>>
>>138604651
>Japanese don't make a distinction between cumulonimbus clouds and sea cucumbers
>>
Anki is one of the few pleasures I stil have left in life. Every morning I can't wait to get started on it.
>>
>>138604566
>english doesn't make a distinction between 脇 and 横腹
>>138604702
>This is a bit confounding, though. I'm sure someone who knows more than me could explain.
It just so happens that I'm well-read on this subject.
Most relevant:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_term#Basic_color_terms
Auxiliary:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opponent_process
>>
>>138604794
I'm enjoying working on Heisig with Anki, but I can't say I'll miss spending 2-3 hours a day on it after I've completed Volume 3.
>>
>>138604651

Only historically.

Many cultures had far more abstract ways of perceiving colour.

I've heard some countries became acutely aware of the difference between green, teal, and blue, whereas the anglosphere considers only green and blue to be distinct, with teal being called either.
>>
>>138604721
Yeah, 緑 is used a lot. I've been playing Mario & Luigi RPG and it's used whenever they refer to Luigi, like 緑のヒゲ.

I just remember reading somewhre that 青い can refer to either blue or green.
>>
>>138604885
I call teal and cyan as blue, and chartreuse as green instead of yellow, and yellow as neither red nor green.
>>
I'm so doggone tired of not being ADULT SCI-FI NOVEL level but of being COMPELLING CONTENT LEVEL
Can't even read muh moege porn games without thinking of how inefficient the study is
>>
>>138604846

>脇

Armpit.

>横腹

Side.

I'd accept the greater distinction between relatives in the East, though; different words for older and younger siblings, different kanji for older/younger uncles/aunts, and male/female cousins.
>>
File: frisbee3.jpg (36KB, 320x240px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
frisbee3.jpg
36KB, 320x240px
Should I commit seppuku using this Frisbee?
>>
>>138605009
>>脇
>Armpit.
Wrong.
>>
File: zenzen.jpg (47KB, 633x471px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
zenzen.jpg
47KB, 633x471px
>>
>>138605036
全然駄目だね!!!!!
>>
File: frisbee2.jpg (38KB, 320x240px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
frisbee2.jpg
38KB, 320x240px
>>138605025
I'm going to do it.
>>
>>138605033
Google image search 脇
>>
>>138605081
Armpit would be 腋窩 anon. Step up your japanese.
>>
File: frisbee1.jpg (38KB, 320x240px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
frisbee1.jpg
38KB, 320x240px
>>138605074
>>
>>138605098
>>
>>138602695
Possibly 続?
>>
File: wawakawa.jpg (707KB, 1000x1161px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
wawakawa.jpg
707KB, 1000x1161px
>>138605126
>>
>>138605126
脇 is the entire area between the upper arm and the torso.
>>
>>138605112
http://www.realultimatepower.net/ninja/seppuku.htm

Thank you, guys. Here is my website.
>>
>>138605098

>脇

I don't see how this isn't the armpit.
>>
>>138605188
>>138605155
That's pretty, perhaps pedantic, if you say 脇 and mean armpit people will understand you mean armpit.
>>
>>138605240
If I say 青い and mean green then people will understand I mean armpit.
>>
>>138605235
The armpit doesn't go that far.
>>
>>138605255
That is not true.
>>
>>138605329
Anything is true if you believe hard enough.
>>
You guys are gays are diaper babies.
>>
>>138605341
That is also not true.
>>
>>138605359
It is if I meant "anything" in a different way.
>>
File: imouto.jpg (43KB, 560x353px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
43KB, 560x353px
>>138605126
>>138605155
腋窩はあまり使わないと思うよ

口語では「脇の下」とか、ただ「わき」だよ。おにいちゃん
>>
Oh boy, I can't extremely precisely define parts of the underarm.

This is obviously comparable to not being able to distinguish a limb from an appendage without writing out a kanji that may or may not clear up the distinction.
>>
Are you guys afraid of blowing chunks hard?.
>>
>>138605422
It's pretty much the same thing. 足 doesn't mean "the entire leg" when it's used for leg. They just draw the line in a different place than we do.
>>
How do the Japanese search for celeb feet pics?
>>
>>138605470

I'm glad I can speak Kanji so that this is not 100% ambiguous in speech.
>>
(俺は)あなたが友達として好き
I like you as a friend.
(俺は)あなたが女として好き
I like you as a girl

This doesn't seem right. I don't know how to explain what I want in english but I'm not sure how to say it.
Kind of "I like you when I consider you as a friend" and "I like you when I consider you as a girl"
Am I retarded? Could anyone help please
>>
>>138605718
>Am I retarded? Could anyone help please
Have you tried requesting medical assistance?
>>
>>138605718

as mean "in the role of" in this context, so "when I consider you as" works fine.
>>
File: imouto.gif (45KB, 400x440px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.gif
45KB, 400x440px
わきに生えちゃうおけけは

>むだげ

だよ。男の人は「わきげ」だよ
>>
File: プリオン.jpg (247KB, 1366x768px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
プリオン.jpg
247KB, 1366x768px
>I wonder what プリオン means
>prion
>wow that was helpful
>>
>>138605975
It means Purion.
>>
>>138605955

そして…?
>>
>>138605955
おもしろえ
>>
>>138605876
I just thought that
>(俺は)あなたが女として好き
would make it seem like I'm saying it from the role of a girl, when I meant it to be them in the role of a girl. I don't know, but yeah
>>
行かないわけにもいかないでしょうね
>>
>>138606036
無駄毛を処理しなくなったら

女として終わりだよ
>>
File: 1457582665029.jpg (48KB, 500x500px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1457582665029.jpg
48KB, 500x500px
>>138605197
>>
>Cant finish VN's because I get bored half way through
Why are most vn's dragged on so needlessly long?
>>
>>138604885
>mfw the Greeks compared the sky to metal and the sea to wine
>>
Feel like drawing some stylized kanjis instead of going to sleep, request are welcome.
>>
>>138606777
No one cares
>>
File: OP.png (186KB, 1200x1090px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
OP.png
186KB, 1200x1090px
>>138606801
No problem, I can pick posts in here anyways. I forgot the pic.
>>
>>138606852
「機械」をください。
>>
>>138606102

I didn't even think of that way of interpreting it.

I think the role is automatically assigned to the object.

女として俺はあなたが好き

Would probably be the way to do the opposite, because "女として俺" becomes the subject.
>>
>>138606654
1. you're a retard with a shit attention span
2. you're reading shit VNs
>>
File: kikai.png (149KB, 1200x1090px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
kikai.png
149KB, 1200x1090px
>>138606950
>>
>>138605132
That makes sense. I'm gonna go with that. Thanks.
>>
>it's a needlessly ambiguous dictionary definition episode
>>
>>138604885
I think I once heard there is a culture that has like 2 colors or something, red and white or something. Idk if true.
>>
>>138605975
It's the plot device that was killing dinosaurs in Michael Crichton's The Lost World.
>>
File: denki.png (97KB, 761x717px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
denki.png
97KB, 761x717px
Next one will contain several kanji because I don't mean to spam.
>>
>>138607219
大好きだ。
ありがとうございます。
>>
>>138606968
That makes sense, thanks
>>
3:30AMです。明日ね、私は6時間に起きないと。面倒だぁ…
>>
>>138607513
どうして寝ていないの?
>>
>>138607491
Please do 熟 by itself.
>>
>>138607513
貴様は地球の裏に住むか?
ここは15:30だぞ
>>
>>138607305
>it's a /tv/ tries to force their board culture onto the rest of the site episode
Fuck the hell off, kid. And don't you dare reply to me unless you've got something useful to say.
>>
>>138607513

>3:30AM

ええええ?

なんと洋風な書き方だな。

午前3時30分って!
>>
>>138607675
いえ、ここは10:43だよ。お前ばか?
俺の家はアウターヘブンだぞ。
>>
>>138607700
あっー すいません

>>138607630
死をcontemplating in japanese

I should get going. Goodnight /djt/
>>
>>138607688

ヨーロッパに大勢のムスリムが這入ってるとレイプとか大問題になる。
>>
File: blah blah inside.png (340KB, 1522x1434px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
blah blah inside.png
340KB, 1522x1434px
>>138592377
>>138592427
Made these.

>>138607658
Kay, last one, then I'm off to bed.
>>
File: juku.png (79KB, 761x717px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
juku.png
79KB, 761x717px
>>138607658
Here it is, good night!
>>
Japanese seems to have a lot of compound words for extremely precise things that would just be expressed through a descriptive sentence in English.
>>
>>138606314
Gay.
>>
>>138608152
Sassy ballerina with sunhat and giant tophat with wheels.
>>
File: imouto.jpg (284KB, 1920x1200px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
284KB, 1920x1200px
にほんから

しょうごをおしらせします

小5じゃないよ、正午だよ。

正午はお昼の11時59分の60秒後のことだよ
>>
http://dat.2chan.net/t/res/274776.htm

I can't understand 2chan posts. Please help.

かつてはカップラーメンの自販機に負けじと
同じスペースに近所の蕎麦屋が出していたなあ

Although it lost to a cup ramen vending machine, the space was formerly a [vending machine] put out by a neighborhood soba shop.
>>
>>138608233
It doesn't sound as elegant in English, though.
>>
>>138608152
Thanks.
>>
今日、僕は猫が熱いを嫌いを学んた
Does it make sense?
>>
>>138608469
Not even close.
>>
File: imouto.jpg (15KB, 300x225px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
15KB, 300x225px
>>138608469
>猫は文字通り猫舌だった、と、今日思い知った。

書き言葉になっちゃった
>>
Cont.

I dont get this post please help me make sense of it.

親の実家に帰省するとき、バス停にカップヌードルの自販機が設置されてて
帰る度にバス待ち時間はそれを買って食べてた
数年前に投票で復刻された和そばが現役の頃の話 wtf??
うどん自販機はレジャープールに設置されてたのを食べてた
ハンバーガーは20年くらい前まで近所の駅前に設置されてたけど
稼働していたかどうかは不明

"When I went back to my parent's hometown, near the bus stop there was a cup noodle vending machine placed there.
Whenever I go back (leave parent's hometown) i buy some noodles and eat them.
Some dozen years ago a poll when discussing a udon vending machine, it was placed near a liesure pool and I ate there.
There was a hamburger (vending machine) for 20 years infront of the station, but I dont know if it still is operational."
>>
>>138608573
"Today I learned that cat's dislike hot shit"
>>
>>138608469
>学んた

Today I learned that cats dislike heat?
「きょう、猫は熱が嫌いを学んだ」。。。?
>>
File: i320.jpg (18KB, 240x320px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
i320.jpg
18KB, 240x320px
>>138608297

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmSHinMafuw
>>
>>138608678
ye
>>
Complain about /r/learnjapanese being dumb, how do I learn Japanese, できない, lol my Japanese is better than yours バカやロイ

おにいちやん

Did I miss anything?
>>
>>138608769
>>>/r/learnjapanese
>>
>>138608469

No.

>熱いを嫌い

嫌い isn't a verb.

Presuming you want to use the noun "hate", then it would be 熱い嫌い.

>を学んた

This isn't a real verb. I don't even know how you managed to write that.
>>
File: 1434598130369.png (83KB, 443x521px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1434598130369.png
83KB, 443x521px
Genki or Tae Kim?
>>
File: why not both.jpg (31KB, 419x261px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
why not both.jpg
31KB, 419x261px
>>138609033
>>
>>138609033
Kanzen Masters
>>
>>138608678
>>138608816
今日、優しいアノンは僕に応援だ
>>
>>138609098
Not for beginners, mate.
>>
>>138609033

>tfw you have no idea how you even learnt grammar
>>
>>138609033
Tae Kimu.
>>
>its 30 minutes til midnight and i still havent done my daily anki yet
>>
>>138609119
今日、鈍臭いアノンは僕にクリンジュさせたんだ
>>
>>138609258
Oh boy, rush trough it.
>>
>>138609204
You probably never did, to be honest.
>>
File: 12212.jpg (282KB, 1190x1683px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
12212.jpg
282KB, 1190x1683px
>>138609258
Stop being a lazy turd then and get to work.
>>
Can I force rikai to add the second definition of a word to my anki deck?
>>
>>138593552
>40 cards a day

i know were all on 4chan and we obviously have a lot of free time but 40 cards a day seems ridiculous to actually remember
>>
File: ok.jpg (63KB, 977x707px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
ok.jpg
63KB, 977x707px
I had a rough night tonight and my deck knew it.
>>
>>138609283
The fuck is a クリンジュ
>>
File: 1453161942860.jpg (26KB, 328x466px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1453161942860.jpg
26KB, 328x466px
>>138609398
>white background
>>
File: 1434343215991.jpg (27KB, 255x243px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1434343215991.jpg
27KB, 255x243px
>>138609258
Anki will shit fury on you if you miss a day. Better do damage control while you still can, son.
>>
>>138609330

I learned how to code this way

>wtf I am doing
>something clicks

and here I am now coding in 3 languages.
>>
>>138609424
A secret 刀 technique available to only the most skilled 9つ刀 users.
>>
>>138609380
I WANNA KNOW JAPANESE BUT I DONT WANNA LEARN JAPANESE

FUCK
>>
>>138609330

Then how can I understand the language?
>>
>>138609459
>coding
>counting languages
Sounds like the average retarded webdev dropout.
>>
>>138609484
You just think you do, but in reality you have no clue.
>>
>>138609512

I have a stem degree tho.
>>
>>138609460
srsly tho
>>
>>138600684
>read "today"
>thats all the kanji ik
>i've been really slacking with my studies i feel horrible
>>
>>138609484
That's the way it should work, for me grammar rules are just more confusing than helpful because of my autism. You can understand the language just fine without knowing any grammar, that's how you learnt your mother tongue.
>>
>>138609593
Okay, you don't really have to use 9刀s, you can get by with just 3 of them, but it will be much harder.
>>
>>138608469
Not even a little desu
>>
>>138609471
勉強しなくちゃ。
>>
>>138609033
Read dojg from front to back
>>
>>138609033
Imabi
>>
Auto mode on a VN is great and all but having lines like 「ん」 and ぐちゅっ、ぐちゅん。空気と愛液が交じり合う。すみの締め付けぎゅうぎゅうになり、亀頭が酸素をもとめてあえぐっ! take the same length of time to skip is ridiculous. How difficult would it be to just make the time relative to the length of each line? As it is I have to sit around waiting for ages half the lines and quickly read some lines as fast as I can to make sure I don't miss the end of them.
>>
あたし、エイズいる?!汚いマンコを濡れていたわ。
>>
>>138609617

Finish your studies every day without fail, anon.

Are you busy? Make the time.
Are you tired? Struggle through. Even if you bring mature cards back into relearn in your tired state, it's not the end of the world.
Are you sick? Doing your reps isn't going to kill you.
Do you not feel like it? That's hardly an excuse.

Japanese is already a long task when you're not allowing yourself to miss days. If you're not on top of things, you'll NEVER get where you want to be.

I probably wasted two years slacking off. I didn't make zero progress during that time, but I wasn't about to read anything without stopping for any length of time. Mid-last year, I said "fuck that". Now I'm around N2 level on the vocab. If I had done this from the start, I would know Japanese by now.
>>
>>138609258
>tfw my anki resets at 4am
>tfw i still missed it one day because I forgot to get to it

I will never let it happen again, though.
>>
>>138609998
thank you based anon djt is one of the best places on the internet let alone 4chan i will power through for you anon i love you
>>
>running out of time
>anki session isnt even close to finished
>rush and click through it so i dont miss a day
I don't think I should feel bad about this. But I feel really really bad about this.
>>
>>138610153
You're still going to lose time when you have to review the cards you skipped.
>>
>>138610153

I always make it a point to finish reviews long before this even comes close to being an issue.
>>
>>138610153
Bump the new day cutoff by an hour and make that your new day. You now have an extra hour to do yer reps so you don't have to half-ass them.

Later, when you have a good day and do your reps early, pull it back by an hour.
>>
File: yo hana something.jpg (9KB, 46x115px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
yo hana something.jpg
9KB, 46x115px
Can someone help me out with this? The context is fall and or autumn and I think the first two characters are よ花, but the last one evades me and I can't redraw it without it spitting out nonsense back at me. I'm not even that confident my first two characters are right so any help would be most appreciated.
>>
>>138609991
どうして悪いことを言いたいの?
>>
I'm beginning to think I've made a mistake going through Heisig at 50 Kanji per day. I'm 650 in and despite having great success, I'm already spending around three hours per day doing Anki, which saps my motivation to study in other areas.

Am I gonna get crushed under the weight of reviews before I can get through all 3,000?
>>
File: warning.jpg (516KB, 1118x1600px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
warning.jpg
516KB, 1118x1600px
注目

これはNO本気ゾーンです。
>>
これは"たとえば"の話だけど。
ある日、翼あるひとびとがグレタガルドの白い空を埋めつくしたんだ。

天地の半ばに羽根の舞う 雪花のごとく繽紛と
慈悲なき鏃の降りそそぐ 羽根のまにまに繽紛と
燃える礫の降りそそぐ  羽根のまにまに繽紛と

草葺き屋根の里が焼け ポプラ木立の邑が焼け
世界の底を逃げまどう 無辜なる民の靴の音
石の街路を駆けぬけて 荒れた畷を駆けぬけて
世界の底を逃げまどう 馬のひづめの轟きよ

エルフの森の王国も ドワーフ造りの山の砦も 機械仕掛けのノームの城も
猖獗極まる侵寇の 波涛の呑まれて隊伍散る
戦火の汀に立たされた 人の子たちの負け戦
翼の泊まる空の下 堅牢堅固も過去の栄誉か 終焉迫る城塞都市

聖なる騎士さえ堂に入り 円蓋の下 神よと祈った
宮廷道化は楼閣のぼり 蝋の翼で飛ばんと嘯く
陰に潜んだスラムの王は 武器を鎧って空を睨んだ
暗き洞棲む妖術使いは 闇を纏って機を待った……

ほら、空ってどこにでも繋がってるよね
どこへ逃げたって、敵はその白い翼でどこまでも追っかけてくるんだ。
だから翼のない彼らは、どこにも繋がってない空を求めていた。
そんな願いが通じて、いま彼らはとてものどかな国でジングルベルを聴いていた―
これは"たとえば"の話だけど。
僕らが君に語るのは、たとえばそんなメルヘン。
>>
パンもケーキも充実しているが、中でも一際目を引くのがサンドイッチで、見ただけでウマいとわかる美しいサンドイッチたちが、ズラリと並んでいる。──これは完全に罠。カロリーという名のアリ地獄。炭水化物の禁断の実。脂肪という死亡遊戯なのは一目瞭然だ。

What do the last 3ish sentences mean?

"Their bread and cakes are also perfect but their sandwiches really catch the eye, just looking at how beautiful they are, lined up. This truly is the perfect trap (for caloriewatchers). A antlion's pit for calories. Carbohydrates are banned (???). The fat content, by the looks of it, is like playing with death(???). "
>>
>>138610956
満点
>>
>>138611071
http://rocketnews24.com/2015/06/09/593298/

cont.

筆者も人並みにはカロリーに気をつけているし、どんなに食べたくてもグッと我慢する(こともある)。

I got most of this one but i cant tell what (こともある) means. Does it mean he splurges once in a while too?

Also these sandwiches are fucking gorgeous.
>>
>>138610758
I did RTK1 at 30/day and nothing else and it started to wear me down towards the final 500. I probably would have dropped it if I was doing vocab and grammar simultaneously (since it's very helpful, but not necessary). The RTK reps are still my least favourite part of the day and there's only 35 reviews a day now. I would tell you to skip RTK3 but I'm sure you'll end up making that choice yourself.
>>
>>138610584
>>
>>138611149
I actually enjoy doing it a fair bit; I just want to make sure I don't put a ridiculous workload on myself and crash. At least it will start winding down at the end of next month if I can get through it. I may end up having to dedicate all of my efforts to it though.
>>
>>138610758

50 new cards per day is too much even on tasks that take quite a lot less time.

Drop it down to 20. Be warned that your load isn't going to lighten immediately.
>>
Post stats.
>>
>>138609991
I feel like this crosses an unspoken line.

Can we not say shit like this please?
>>
>>138611599
どうして?エイズはお前のトリガー?
>>
>>138611598
>>
File: Screenshot_3.png (1KB, 209x36px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Screenshot_3.png
1KB, 209x36px
>>138611598
>>
File: 1445822744170.png (12KB, 494x70px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1445822744170.png
12KB, 494x70px
>>138611598
>>
File: sRUqwM0.png (1KB, 228x49px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
sRUqwM0.png
1KB, 228x49px
>>138611598
>>
>>138611599
何言ってるのよ!?
この人は明らかに深刻な病を患っている。
助けなきゃ!
>>
>>138611598
>>
Anyone here have the Yotsubato Anki deck?
>>
>>138612558
Isn't it in the guide?
>>
売春婦。
>>
>>138612579

I looked but couldn't find it.
>>
Just did my first pass through my daily reviews for my mining deck. 65% retention. I don't like this.
>>
File: Anki.png (1KB, 213x39px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Anki.png
1KB, 213x39px
>>138611598
>>
>>138612944
And I thought my 88% average was bad.
>>
>>138613311
Just switched to all time, it's actually 81%, ugh.
>>
File: 23356524.jpg (62KB, 549x400px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
23356524.jpg
62KB, 549x400px
Not really at the point where I could make much use of it yet (just started kanji, vocab and grammar) but I found myself wondering. Are there any particularly good japanese sites for finding roms/ISOs and such of games? What would you include in a google search for such a rom along with the name of the game? I tried rom and ロム but I only really got this one japanese website (which just linked to an english rom site...) and the usual english ones.

I'm actually really excited to replay old favorites in their original language, so I just thought I'd ask this now.
>>
>>138613424
There are websites which host downloads for EN and JP versions of ROMs. Try Emuparadise.
>>
>>138613544
Yeah, I know that much. Thanks though! I was just curious if they even really have any major sites of their own for this stuff.
>>
>>138613424
The usual English sites have Japanese ROMs/ISOs for most games, unless it's super-niche.
>>
>>138611049
長すぎたから、読まなかった
>>
>>138611071
アリ地獄というのはもがいても抜け出せない事の比喩
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi9tIUvaNuY

禁断の実は聖書から"Forbidden fruit"

脂肪と死亡の発音が同じ。駄洒落[da ja re]だね。
「脂肪を摂ると死亡するよ(笑)」
何故「死亡遊戯」なのかは筆者に聞いて。

死亡遊戯 : ブルース・リー主演の映画
>>
File: CHINCHIRA.png (2KB, 325x63px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
CHINCHIRA.png
2KB, 325x63px
kek
>>
>>138609033
I tried both, preferred tae kim
>>
Intermediate hell is a pain. This is unfun as fuck.
>>
>tfw finally fluent in Nihongo (Japanese)
Based Wanikani. I thought my wife's son was just pulling a prank on me, but it actually works!
>>
>>138615109
This is when you start browsing the /int/ japanese thread and 2chan.
>>
>>138615180
I don't necessarily like people though, /int/ especially is unappealing to me, I don't like how how people talk over there, it reeks the "we're a special group of special people".

2chan would just end up sucking all of my free time probably.
>>
>>138615274
Well that's the only way to get out of intermediate hell besides moving to Japan. If you want to improve you have to actually talk to people, literature is not going to help you past a certain point simply because of how the brain works.
>>
File: imouto.jpg (138KB, 500x750px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
138KB, 500x750px
ねえおにいちゃん

さくらもちたべたい
>>
>>138605975
>he doesn't know what prions are
pretty dangerous shit tbqh familia please google and learn what mad cow disease is.
>>
I started learning Kanji for real and can now finally write more than just 前, 今 or 日. It's surprisingly easy and makes reading texts with lots of unknown vocab much less daunting.

10/10 would recommend to any anon.
>>
>>138615303
Thinking of blogging on lang8 and perhaps making some acquaintances I could talk with that way.
>>
200 cards in 20 minutes and my studying for the morning is over, anki is finally getting easy and fun again.

>>138615274
>it reeks the "we're a special group of special people".
/a/ DJT is far worse in that regard.
>>
>>138615180
>>138615274
It's funny to see this since I'm in the same boat.

I've just been reading 2channel and futaba (futaba mostly since the OP images help to identify interesting threads)
and I cannot stand the /int/ japanese threads. I've tried on many occasions to get over it, but I can't stand the faggots that post there. I wonder if a large part of it is just the flags themselves, you can identify posting patterns more easily with them and maybe I just don't like that. I don't know how anyone can spend all their time on /int/.
>>
>>138615341
i can write 際 so i can write anything
>>
>>138615376
>/a/ DJT is far worse in that regard.
Not that guy, but even so I don't think it's in the same way.
/int/ japanese thread has a more attention-whory / edgy-highschooler vibe.
>>
>>138615400
I don't get it either, just opened that board's catalog and it's just awful. Even /pol/ is better.
>>
> Sick with fever, sleep 18 hours
> Nearly double the anki cards to review.

Time to power through!
>>
File: 1456298117835.jpg (68KB, 441x518px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1456298117835.jpg
68KB, 441x518px
>>138615306

ククク。私はすべてを食べました!
>>
>>138615306
Stop fucking eating all the time you クソ太ロリ.
>>
未 末
W H Y
H
Y
>>
Why are the Murasamas so hard?
>>
>>138615933

へ ヘ

J A P A N E S E
A
P
A
N
E
S
E
>>
File: 1410029557372.jpg (188KB, 960x951px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1410029557372.jpg
188KB, 960x951px
>sorta accidentally tell mommy and daddy that I'm learning Japanese so they don't feel bad about me doing nothing and secretly resenting them for birthing me into the human condition they already knew was complete fucking garbage
>also tell them i'm taking the jlpt n2 in the summer
>specifically n2, like five times
>"I mean I could have taken it and passed it this winter but I wanted to 100% guarantee that I was gonna pass, which I absolutely totally will ez-pz"
I finished core6k in like November and can pretty comfortably read most anything that's interesting to me, but when I looked at the J-CAT listening sample questions I got too scared and closed out the browser at question 2.
If I know the vocabulary and watch AKB48 variety shows raw every day (but mostly only understand whatever they put JP subtitles on) is the N2 anything to be scared of? I just hear an office situation or a conversation between two people with respect for each other and my brain just screams "THIS ISN'T CONTENT OF HIGH RESONANCE I CAN'T RELATE TO ANY OF THIS I'M SCARED"

Sorry for scary pic but I need attention
>>
>>138615400
Out of curiosity, is there a 2ch /pol/?
I want to shitpost with the Japanese.
>>
>>138615975
Just do the jcat you fucking teenage retard
>>
>>138616019
I don't know, I'm not into politics at all so I've never looked. But you know you can't post on most boards with a foreign IP right? Unless you buy a 浪人 pass or something like that, or use a japanese proxy.
>>
>>138616025
I'm actually a twenty year old adult
>>
日毎の念押し:
俺>僕
>>
>>138616085
You sure don't act like one
>>
>>138616088
This is the worst meme parroted by retards here
>>
>>138616128
Spotted the beta cuck.
>>
>>138616128
It's obviously being spouted by children who think Kirito and the like are cool and manly protagonists, when all real alpha males like Araragi and pic related use 僕
>>
>>138616257
>real alpha males
>Araragi
>Keima
>>
>>138615975
You should just take the JCAT and see how you do. There is no downside to taking it. You still have a few months to work on listening if you don't do well.

And anyway I think if you do well enough on the rest of the exam you only need 1/3 points on the listening section or something like that, you should check how the test is weighted.
>>
>二十日
>はつか

>八日
>ようか

>四日
>よっか

WHY JAPANESE PEOPLE
>>
>>138616065
Does futaba auto update or do I need something like 4chanx
>>
>>138616425
I don't get it. What does 二十日 have to do with the other 2?
>>
>>138616451
Is there some reason you couldn't check for yourself?
>>
File: 1450938655011.png (63KB, 354x368px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1450938655011.png
63KB, 354x368px
>>138616513
No, but I just felt like asking here before hand
>>
>>138616407
I'm registering for the JCAT right now, but I already feel a lot better knowing this. Thanks dude
>>
>>138616475

>二十日 = 20
>pronounced はつか

>八日 = 8
>pronounced ようか

>四日 = 4
>pronounced よっか


Isn't it weird?
>>
>>138615400
You don't even need to identify posting patterns when half of the posters are tripfags, which is why the thread is full of shit
>>
File: imouto.jpg (256KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
256KB, 1920x1080px
>>138616425
漢字が入ってくる前から
たぶんそう呼ばれていたんじゃないかな

日の数えかたは神代の時代からあって

漢字はあとから入ってきてることばが

いまにも残っているのかもしれないよ

さいがいやせんそうで失われたことばも多いけど
>>
>>138615975
Watch anime
Literally all you have to do
>>
>>138609998
>generic "just do it" waffle
Careful anon, I think you're infringing on Nike's intellectual properly there.
>>
>>138610085
Don't samefag.
>>
>>138616606

英語ください。
>>
>>138616583
Idk, I find 八日 and 四日 a bit tricky because they have very similar pronunciations, but I never had any trouble with 二十日.
>>
>>138616696

It's not a problem but it's weird because it feels like はつか would be more suited for 八日
>>
To advanced anons that already knows enough japanese to read and lurk in 2ch and futaba. What is the difference between the 2 in your experience?

Do you get more insights both in japanese language ability and anime discussions from reading the site compared to 4chan?
>>
>>138616647
>not exercising your radical freedom
Continue to pretend that you're just a victim of the circumstances, if that gives you comfort.
>>
>>138617023
>Continue to pretend that you're just a victim of the circumstances
The fuck sort of pathetic attempt at creating a strawman argument was that?
The world isn't black and white, you fucking sperg. Generic "advice" is meaningless without taking into the context of the circumstance of the individual.
Look, I get that you wanted to post something to stroke your ego, but I don't give a shit about your narcissism.
>>
How difficult is Mahouka to read?
>>
>>138616773
I don't lurk there, but have nip friends who do. One of the interesting differences is - 4chan gives better answers to questions. As long as you stay concise and polite you're going to get a real answer from a person who knows what he's talking about. That person will call you names and ridicule you for not knowing elementary shit, but he will give you actual information or point you to a place where you can get actual information yourself. You're going to get a lot of bullshit too, but you can filter it with a little thought .
2chan people will just straight up spew malicious disinformation, 100% stream of "mix bleach with detergent". You're supposed to magically know everything without ever asking any questions.
>>
>>138617240

So 2chan is 4chan in the good old days before we became trash.
>>
File: imouto.jpg (21KB, 640x360px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
imouto.jpg
21KB, 640x360px
>>138616682
四月一日
>watanuki
>>
>>138617093

For the extremely overwhelming majority of individuals, you can safely assume that failure to study is a problem with discipline.

The idea that a 9-to-5 doesn't leave you with free time is a myth.
"I have to take care of my sick aunt" probably doesn't take up every last second of the remaining five hours before you go to sleep.
"Muh brain chemicals" is something that a scientist would roll his eyes at. You always have free will.
"Muh social life"? Yes, choosing to study something is the choice to sacrifice some of your time to dedicate it to a different activity.

If you make excuses, you really can't learn Japanese. It's not such an easy goal.

If you are in that tiny minority that actually has a legitimate reason why they can't study, most of those people do have access to a way out that they either haven't considered or just don't want to take. Are you stuck with two minimum wage jobs? Have you taken a look at the local temp agencies to see if you might be able to land a job that pays twice as much as your current ones? If references are a problem, you might consider improving your performance and/or heading out to a new shitty job that can't afford to have standards with a clean slate. Either way, you should give up on Japanese until you can afford the time investment.
>>
>>138617318

どうして日本人?!
>>
File: 1457885196625.jpg (68KB, 537x600px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1457885196625.jpg
68KB, 537x600px
>>138617414


t. NEET living at home
>>
>>138616773
Well even on 4chan I don't browse the whole site, just a 1 or 2 boards. Since I'm sort of using 2ch/futaba to help me learn a bit I'm even less inclined to visit random boards since I need to go to places I like to help me remain interested.
So I really just look at 東方裏 on futaba and ニュー速VIP on 2ch. 東方裏 gives me a very old-/jp/ vibe, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them used to browse there too and would take material from it.

>>138617240
Do you mean futaba or 2ch? It's hard to tell when someone just says 2chan.
Or did you mean both?
>>
>>138617487

Does that last piece of advice sound like something that someone with no experience being employed would say?
>>
File: 1455892784136.png (504KB, 956x720px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1455892784136.png
504KB, 956x720px
>>138617517

t. Former wage slave now free riding leeching NEET living in parent's basement
>>
これは正しい?
僕は日本語はではありませんよ。すべてのホントに日本人できないだね。それに暗記と猫は意味分からない。漢字たちとても楽しくないでありませんだ。僕ワイファイやパソコンが欲しいぞ。犬肉はホントに美味しいよ。。。
>>
>>138617529

Does that sound like advice from someone who was content to remain at minimum wage, and has no clue how to get out of the problem of not being paid enough for their time?

Accepting that you're just stuck and can't find the time to study Japanese is going to be a problem with you 99.999% of the time.
>>
How do I add furiganas to my posts if I want to designate a non-standard reading to some kanji?
>>
>>138615975
May I ask why are you taking the N2? Is it to prove them you can do something?

I just don't see the point of taking N5 to N2 unless you like wasting money. Only the N1 is worth anything.
>>
>>138616773
i usually hang out on 2ch for the livewatch threads and thats about it

>>138617093
永遠に寝てろ

>>138617414
that was a waste of your effort

>>138617540
0点
すまん

>>138617587
when piglet fly
>>
>>138617631
Just as some level of proof that I'm doing at least something. Getting a job doesn't matter to me but giving them some reason to believe that if they just leave me alone forever I'll eventually get out of my "rut" of doing whatever I want to do all day.
>>
>>138617631

Some employers will consider the N3 (probably jobs that don't involve a lot of interaction with the Japanese public; chef at an ethnic restaurant or job at the US embassy, for example), and a fair number of them will consider the N2. It'll also look good to employers who don't know what those numbers mean, and aren't hiring you for your Japanese skills.

Of course, if you're going for a highly technical job in Japan, they'll want that N1 certificate. The N2 is also a bit useless for dick waving on DJT, since that's still a beginner (or the doorway to intermediate, at best) by the measure of consuming Japanese media.
>>
>>138617240
>>138617490

Thanks for the replies. To the second anon, you don't lurk on the anime section over there?
Btw, does both futaba and 2ch limits foreign IP replies or just one of them?
>>
>>138617705
be your own fuckin man and stop being a bitch

also lets not be deluded. your self japanese study isnt going to fool anyone, especially your parents. you arent actually doing anything with nearly all of your time

take some real steps towards the betterment of your own life
>>
>>138617758
Yeah that's true. Most people here that have 2000+ mature kanji acc. to Anki or have read numerous VNs can pass N2 easy.

Source: I passed JLPT level 2 when I only know <4,000 words at best.

>>138617705
I'm sure you can pass it, don't worry.
>>
>>138617758
>N2 is also a bit useless for dick waving on DJT,

i think if you can write just 1 halfway decent sentence on djt youre part of the elite nihongo posting crew automatically
>>
>>138617773
>you don't lurk on the anime section over there?
Honestly I'm not all that advanced yet, I find that I actually get something out of doing this when I'm reading entire threads, not just OP's, and it's kind of annoying to have to shop around for threads you like in a foreign language on a very broad topic like anime.
I like the touhou board instead because it's a much more narrow topic and I can get interested in probably 80% of the threads.
As for 2ch I really don't go there much but I was only checking out the vip board because I'd always heard about it and I just wanted to see what it was.
>>
>>138617773
They both block foreign IP's, but they both have certain boards that you can still post on.
>>
>>138618071
Why do they block foreign IPs anyway?
>>
>>138618190
you must be new to japan

they are isolationist in all aspects and it goes quadruple online
>>
>侵食
>浸食
Oh NO
>>
sono taburetoniwa i.m.e. ga nai

tasukettekudasai
>>
>>138618440
Is it an android tablet?
There's something called Google Japanese Input on the Google Play Store (free) that I use for my phone. It works pretty well.
>>
>非番をつぶしての視察、おめでとう!
The person happily offering them a 視察 around his factory is the one saying this, so I don't really get it. Is he thanking them for giving him a purpose on what would otherwise be his day off? And if so what's with that おめでとう?
>>