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What made it so good lads? Also S2 when?

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What made it so good lads? Also S2 when?
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>>138590635
it was boring
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>>138590635
There is a bunch of adult girls and no one even has a boyfriend.
It's shit.
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>>138590742
in S2 Tarou will impregnate all the Bakos then quit the studio never to be seen again.
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>>138590742
>implying they have time
>implying they don't all go out and get fucked after work on friday
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Which one would you fuck?
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no drama no dumb romance
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>>138592255
That's what people call 'realistic' nowadays?
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>>138592255
Since when does "no drama" make things good? Also, shirobako obviously had drama.
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>>138590635
Because it doesn't have flaws? Story-wise it's very simple. It's still the best anime of 2014 though simply because it used themes most anime don't use (people working, the stress that come with it, the relief when everything goes well, etc). Also, being about adults lives make it more relatable since most of us (and the nips buying BDs) are adults now.
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>>138592733
They don't act like adults, anon. They're still pure highschool anime girls.
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>>138592809
What? They act exactely like 20 year-old girls do in Japan. Also, acting like a teen in the beggining of your adult life is understandable since you was acting like a teen some years ago, your mind doesn't change from a day to another.
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>>138592733
>Because it doesn't have flaws
Please.
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>>138593022
Ok, let me fix it: "Because it doesn't have huge flaws". Satisfied?
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>S2
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>138593224
>15k BDs
>not having a S2
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>>138593461
>PA Works
>S2
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>>138593461
The top seller of the studio sold 2.5 times that amount and didnt get S2 because >>138593523
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>>138593523
It angers me that they waste their talent on pure shit like Glasslip and fucking Haruchika.
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>>138590635
I don't know but I enjoyed the fuck out of it. Maybe because it was down to the ground without adding any unneeded fluff to everyday life.
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>>138593620
what talent?
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Realistic portrayal of anime studio life
Cute girls
History about the industry

One flaw was Andes Chucky ED wasn't in 4:3 Aspect ratio
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>>138592809
>>138593008
>women
>ever acting like adults
I want off this meme train
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>>138593461
How much did Nagi no Asu sell?
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>>138594540
Nice meme.
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>>138594600
Fuck off fujoshit
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>>138594649
I don't think you know what that word means.
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>>138592255
>no drama
Did you watch the show? There was fucking loads of drama.
>>138590635
I think a big aspect (for me anyway) was the fact that the main characters were all at early career stages. Most of us here are around that point in life, so the relatability factor was pretty huge. It's easy to empathize with the themes in the show - not knowing your place, unsure what you want to do etc as a 20-something year old. Same reason a lot of people like HnC, I think.
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>>138594596
4K
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>>138595529
S1 or s2?
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>>138594596
I don't know, don't watched it.
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>>138596483
You haven't seen the magnus opus of PA yet?
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>>138594540
Adult women do act like adult women anon, stop wanting them to act like adult men.
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>>138596534
>>>138594649
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>>138596505
It looks like just another generic school drama anime, why I have to bother?
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>>138596547
Looks like you don't have a proper argument then. Fuck off.
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>>138596570
Because it's good.
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>>138596640
How good? What type of good?
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>>138596674
Magnus Opus good
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>>138596505
I watched Uchouten Kazoku already.
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>>138596505
But this thread is already about Shirobako, I would assume he has
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Glorious ponkan8 design.
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>>138596961
Third best bako.
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>>138596961
>ponkan8
never liked his designs, his faces all look plain unfinished instead of stylish simplistic, which's what I think is what he was going for but failed at it.
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>>138596961
Post the other bakos.
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>>138596961
The Oregairu guy? I never realized it, but now I can totally see it.
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>>138590635
The 5 girls weren't the main focus but the story of the animation studio. Other characters shined. Although you could argue that some characters didn't get enough screen-time or development (Mii and Rii).
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>>138596961
Still upsets me that they never used that design of chuuni cosplaying Ema.
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Make way, best girl coming through.
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>>138592252
Arupin, in her non idol attire. Dem hips
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There are at least two good reasons.
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>>138597134
Left to right:
Yui, Yukino, Komachi, Saki, Iroha

Red-hair genki with hairbun, black-hair shy with twintails, green-hair tomboy with standing-up tuft of hair, blue-hair slut, caramel-hair go-getter
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It spawned some really good doujin
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I love this image because of how dead her eyes are. She didn't want to get married, she just wanted to write anime and research and hang out with her friends. Now her life is over, and she has to spend the rest of her days at home raising children. I wish there were like images for the rest of the Bakos, they seem so uninterested in men which makes the suffering extra tasty.
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>>138597958
They don't call them Sameface Works for nothing, although that's a description you could level at anime in general without singling out any particular studio.
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>>138598077
Ponkan8 doesn't work for PA, he was just hired to work on Shirobako, his sameface problem has nothing to do with their
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>>138596777
Wasted potential imo
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From Shirobako to HARUCHIKA.


From NNA to GLASSLIP.

Why do PA works do this to themselves?
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>>138598205
Its almost like every studio has good and bad shows, wow!

Though in that case all 4 are bad shows.
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>>138598205
We are overdue for a good PA show. Kuromukuro will be excellent.
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>>138598033
I want to make Zuka a single mother and end her promising voice acting career!
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>>138598254
oh fuck off.
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>>138598332
>promising
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>>138598374
She got a plenty of roles after Third Aerial Girls' Squad, fuck off.
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>>138594284
Maybe in universe there was an Andes Chucky feature film
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>>138598033
There's going to be suffering but not from her.
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>>138594284
It could have been extremely letter-boxed.
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>>138598033
She can still do all that.
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>>138598323
>mecha with time-travel samurai
>it will be good

Will PA really save anime? Last time someone made a good mecha it was, like, 20 years ago.
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>>138598771
Xebec just did Exodus and that was only a few months ago. I praise PA Works for trying unexplored genres for them instead of sticking to SoL and harem like kyoani
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>>138590635
>What made it so good lads?

A lot of stuff, we had a lot of discussions when it was airing, and then a lot more after it finished, no need to keep repiting ourselfs.

>Also S2 when?
Is this a serious question?
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>>138598761
Not when the husband goes to work and she has to raise child after child. Her friends will leave her behind and she'll lost all her motivation. I'm getting a stiffy just imagining it.
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>>138598847
>instead of sticking to SoL and harem like kyoani and SHAFT

FTFY
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>>138598847
>Exodus

Who?
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>>138598902
Your suffering boner ends here
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>>138598867
>Is this a serious question?
The show was supposed to be 4 cours originally, so a S2 isn't that big of a stretch.
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>>138598981
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I think it was the anime girls.
Someone back me up on this?
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>>138599350
Those are always an absolute must but it had more going on that set it apart.
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>>138599350
The guys were arguably as good as the girls
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>>138599499
Director was the biggest moeblob.
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The guys were arguably better than the girls
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>>138599479
>set it apart
uh
they were high quality?
I came up with a theory though. In utawaremono I find the girls cuter because they have personality and a place in the world, and you'll see old men on screen and stuff. I think the striking contrast even within the show lets you appreciate how cute they are because more consideration of the plot is involved. The girls seem more 'real' and thus you want them more since they are less unreal yet still unreal.
Like Amagami girls. Mundane yet appealing character design, simple plot and simple MC.
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>>138599641
where is my moe old fat men anime where the girls are the villains who spend all their money and treat them like shit?
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>>138599063
>The show was supposed to be 4 cours originally

That idea was discarded in very early production, in fact after it was announced the 4 cour thing was long forgotten.
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>>138599350
The main girls were honestly not much of a draw for me. They were fine, but I liked most of the other characters better, and generally I liked the cast as a whole rather than as individuals. My favorite character was a man too.
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>>138590635
meowmori was plain as hell when the show stared. but by the end she became the one i want to marry the most.
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>>138592252
>full series never
;_;
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>>138590635
Good characters with understandable issues in life. Makes you think about your life (I know it did for me)
Original themes that were fully developed during 2 cours, and characters grew on you (best examples are Tarou and Hiraoka), so much that you remember them all by the end of the series, despite having one of the largest (if not THE largest) cast of all-time.
It allowed for viewer selection because NEET scum were sure to have a seizure upon seeing a working environment.
Comfy OST
Good humor
Zero pandering. Or rather, it was an "anime lover" pandering with a nice fan-service that took the form of famous anime or directors references.
Lots of emotional content that never veered on melodrama.

All in all, one of the best anime. All those who hated are either "MANime" ADHD idiots who cannot follow anything if there is no action, NEET scum that should be purged from the world or contrarian idiots.
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>>138590635
>What made it so good lads?
It was made with passion. It's something they truly cared about.

Due to its autobiographical nature they understood the subject matter deeply, including all the hypocrisy, delusional, and general shittiness which exist in the world of anime production. But they're also illustrating why they stay in the business, in a really profound way. They're showing how it's about individual people, and it's about art, and it's about legacy.

All of this means there's an honesty in the characters which you don't usually see in anime. They're putting themselves on screen, warts and all. Even when the characters are acting cartoony, it's to illustrate their own naivete, or their own hubris, or their struggles with themselves. Shirobako isn't just a beautiful package, lovingly composed and executed. It's filled with the kind of truth that lets you see right through people. Even if it's not technically accurate, even if the characters are over-the-top, almost parodies of themselves, they successfully communicate what's in the hearts of these people. The urge to leave some kind of mark, the many times when everything is hopeless, the legacy of art which always comes back to remind them why they carry on.
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>>138602774
Also I should probably mention that it's because Diesel a best.
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>>138602853
what's funny is >>138602774 has all the girls, best to worst, placed left to right
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>>138603101
That's... actually pretty amazing.
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>>138602853
You mean Emi.
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>>138603101
Im fucking plying
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>>138590742
>>138592024
In s2, Aoi will finally give in to her lolicon urges, push Erika onto the work desk and take her right there.
Midori and Misa will move in with each other.
Zuka, Ai and Ema have cosplay sex every Friday. At one point, Zuka pretends to be an Idol giving sexual favors to Producer Ai and Ema.
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Anyone rewatched it? How is the show on the rewatch?
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>>138590635
I'm gonna be one of those guys who says it doesn't need a second season. I can't imagine it doing anything other than overstaying its welcome. What more could they have to say? Shirobako was basically perfect. It's understandable that you'd want to spend more time with these characters, but wasn't the ending perfect? All the characters are resolved in a pretty satisfying way. Aoi has pretty much figured out the answer to her question of what she wants to do, Zuka finally got her foot in the door, all on her own, Diesel is on the road to becoming a writer, Misa has made her choice and is better off for it, Ema has gotten to the point where she feels secure... Their arcs are all pretty much resolved.

I think there are directions you could go in with a second season that would make things interesting. You could really dive into the artistic process, talk about what it takes to make something great, with Diesel sort of as the lead there. Like a Whisper of The Heart kind of thing. It would be a very different show, but I'd certainly watch.
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I want to make Ema single mom
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>They actually animated that fucking horse sequence, at the cost of an ending to the first arc, and it looks great
>Meanwhile the rest of Exodus! looks fucking awful, judging by the first episode
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>>138598202
nah
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Ema needs single motherhood the most
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>>138605657
Single motherhood and poverty are like nachos and beer. They just go together.
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>>138590635
>What made it so good lads
The ultimate buddies Daisuke and Tarou
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>>138603711
>>138605657
>>138605771
I want to make Ema happy, so she can animate without worrying about the bills and supplies.
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>>138605859
I want to burden Ema economically and emotionally with debt and cloying neediness. I want to gamble her money away on Pachinko, show up banging on her door at 4 AM drunk and play with her feelings until it becomes a serious obstacle to her career. I want to pray on her meekness, her inability to assert herself and her trusting, naive empathy to ruin her life as an emotional parasite.
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>>138606358
You're kind of a dick.
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>>138606358
Her friends will never allow this to happen
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>>138600268
Not as frustrating as never getting 3rd Aerial Girls Squad.
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>>138598902
This post reminded me of Nana... and now im upset
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>>138606358
Cute girls are not for suffering.
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>>138607024
Have you ever tried to convince a friend to cut a deadbeat loose? Can't be done.
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>>138606936
You sound like my mother
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>>138607414
I want to pleasure her frame by frame
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>>138607414
>erika-yano
wat
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>>138607414
One of the hottest and sexiest cover I've had the boner fortune to see.
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I blazed through it a few days ago. Comfy as shit. Aoi was cute as fuck. In fact, by the end I don't think there was any character I disliked.

Also the last few minutes of episode 23
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>>138607798
Literally old and used
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>>138607913
>used
There is absolutely no evidence of that
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>>138607414
I would be more than happy to have sex with a fellow animator
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>>138607945
>fellow
Show us your work, faggot.
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>>138607986
n-no

I don't have any webms or .gifs and I'm not comfortable with sharing identity shit on /a/
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>>138607929
>implying segawa isn't a MILF
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>>138608035
Make a webm. Surely you've got stuff you've done that you could put together into some kind of sharable fill without posting your linked-in or something.
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>>138597682
>Arupin is actually a christmas cake
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I wan to date Aoi and then cheat on her with Erika in the Musashino office when she's picking up some cuts.
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>>138608045
>single woman living alone in a 1-room apartment
No child has passed through those tight, unsullied loins. Her one passion married someone else without ever giving her neglected, puffy privates the attention they so desperately crave.
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>>138597682

Red and blue look easy to break in half. I'll pick them.
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>>138608086
Now I'm nervous, thanks anon. Don't even know what kind of clip I'd want to show, and I know my style is not exactly anime.
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This show was not comfy at all. It was one of the most stressful things I've watched. Every episode was a new different way everything can go horribly wrong.
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>>138608302
Be nervous all you like, I'm still waiting.
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>>138608630
Can we please go back to talking about Shirobako
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>>138609071
Oh of course. I thought Aoi's sister was super endearing and I hope she find some kind of happiness in her life. Do you think she'll ever find someone to love and love her, or will she end up that old single woman married to her dead-end career? Do you think she could find a way to be happy and satisfied with her life even without someone else to share it with?

I'll keep this thread bumped long enough for you to deliver, animator anon.
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No wonder we get so many shitty animations these days.
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>>138609327
One strange thing about the show was how many characters were single, there were a grand total of maybe 5 people that have been married. It's okay for the main girls and the younger employees, but it's strange on some of the older ones like gothic lolita.

Is this a subtle commentary on Japanese culture?
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>>138609894
I don't think it's a commentary so much as it is just a representation of reality.

Being aging and single as a normal person is one of the worst things. Your fulltime career takes up most, if not all, of your spare time but rarely affords you enough income to support another dependent, which makes you afraid to take the risk with someone because of the financial concerns and strings attached. You don't have the time to really look for someone and don't have the energy after each long day at work to attend all the sort of social gatherings you used to as a late teen/ early-20. You find yourself slowing down, having more and more difficulty connecting with younger people that constitute the majority of single-lookers anywhere you go.

What's worse, all your friends, who you barely ever get to talk to to because they're outside of the immediate environment of the job that takes all of your time, are all somehow getting married, and none of them can offer you any more advice than just "the right person will find you." None of the people in your work environment can offer advice because they're split evenly by people who will most certainly die alone, and those who've been married 20 years and have no idea how the dating world of today works. Both of these 2 groups are much more alike to yourself than you care to admit, but neither are helpful and you're getting antsy waiting for "the one" that may just never burst their way into your tired, boring life.

You;re trapped. Trapped by celibacy. Trapped by work, trapped by being single; trapped by being old, but not old enough to be old; trapped by being too old to be young, but still being young. Too old to know the way out, too young to have already found it, and with nobody to help you. All the friends your age are images of what you could be like if you were older and happier, all your co-workers are images of what you used to be when you were young and stupid (and you hate it) or what you'll become.
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>>138609894
I think it might have been more of an issue with showing the side characters beyond what they do in the anime industry. I'll give you the main cast, since we see plenty of them, but most characters were only shown at work. Whether they were single or not didn't come into play.

It was a nice touch for the characters that were hinted or shown as married. The old guy in particular.
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>>138609327
This is something, right?
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>>138597561
>smoker
>best
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>>138609894
The key to Shirobako's success was the empty feeling that the characters were trying to fight by putting their hearts into their work. If they had been in relationships, they would be finding fulfillment in that aspect of their lives, so their struggles in the anime industry wouldn't have been as meaningful to them, and therefore, to us.
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>>138610288
Ganbatte, anon.
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>>138610199
I also don't think this is culture-specific, but rather a symptom of being an adult in the working world in general.

If you ask me, arranged marriages were a concept ahead of their time. I'm sure lots of single 30-somethings would kill if all their relationship woes and marriage anxieties could be solved all at once by their parents finding a nice, well-to-do suitor for you. Doing it on your own is just a whole bag of worms. It's scary, it's confusing, it's frustrating and it's a waste of time you just don't have energy for while you're busy making something of yourself in the world.
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>>138609356
tfw i make more money than oichan
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>>138610288
It's definitely something. Please don't tell me they make you work in flash, I don't think my heart could take it.
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>>138610407
Arigato!

>>138610550
I work in flash of my own choosing. I can't help it, it's what I've been using for the last 10 years or so, and I can't get the hang of things like Toon Boom. Maybe I'll practice other programs when I have more free time.
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Why did they make the bakery man skinny? It was the only flaw in a 10/10 show
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>>138609356
>A-List voice actor
This industry is insane
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>>138610613
To show that following your dreams leads to an overall better life.
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>>138610613
to show how time demanding the animation industry is. He had no time to work out and focus on work, but with the bakery he could lead an easier life.
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>>138610712
yeah.. it's pretty fucked, ain't it?
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>yfw none of the voice actress of the main girls got any major voice roles since shirobako.
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Why was Misa's character arc so short when her experience is the most relatable to young people who actually have a job?
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>>138610839
I can't be optimistic for Zuka-chan when her real life equivalent is suffering.
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>>138610613
His fat was a metaphor for the stress of working in anime.
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>>138609356
>>138610528
>>138610712
>>138610790
Remember that this chart is super misleading.

The most important piece of information here is the "A-list" before "voice actor." There are plenty of successful voice actors who don't make nearly that much, and plenty of "A-list" directors and animators who make a lot more than what is represented here. If the voice actor column were some kind of average across all voice actors working some minimum amount of hours or something (admittedly a complex proposition to get right), then it would be much more reasonable. The way the voice actor figure was chosen can only be called intentionally misleading.

Also keep in mind that the Animator figure is probably averaged across a ton of people who are working mostly part-time.
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>>138610712
A voice actress is a multi-industry asset. The A-lists are basically celebrities comparable to idols, but much less restricted. They make physical appearances, do signings in stores, perform at concerts, sing character songs, do drama CDs, etc.

Their job involves so much more than just voicing characters in 12-episode cartoons. They are the face and voice of an entire continuum of multimedia franchises that are each worth millions.

An animators work is noble and valuable, but they don't have an image that is marketable or nearly as valuable as that 3d throat that every fan wants to smother in their gentials or masturbate while listening to.
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>>138610934
ema and mii are the ones you should be worried for. at least the other three are working. those two has literally NO work listed for 2016 so far.
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>>138610903
Probably because it's less specific to the anime industry.
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>>138611052
For now.
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>>138610839
All of them but Midori are in Idolmaster if that counts for anything.
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>>138590635
>good
lolol
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>>138611123
What, really?

Who are they all in [email protected]?
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>>138611166
>>138611123
Do you think I could get a role in idolmaster?
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>>138611205
Can you performance dialogue and musical vocal in japanese in an extremely cute little-girl voice? Does your performing voice have a unique character to it that maps easily onto an archetype that's valuable but not yet fulfilled by the extended cast of idolmaster?

If yes marry me
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>>138590635
I felt Sore ga Seiyuu was a better show.
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>>138611166
Ema is the most significant as Mika (who was basically a main character in the anime) and Aoi just got a song as Yumi. Other two are Frederica and Ryo.
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>>138611127
>>138590742
I have to assume that anybody who actually thinks Shirobako was not good is trolling. Not liking it is fine, but it's obviously good. It exudes quality. The story, the characters, the dialog, the art, the production, they're all really strong. If you don't like Shirobako then it's most likely because you just don't like light-hearted dramedy with a good helping of SoL. That's just not your thing. It's definitely not because it's bad.
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>>138611394
>Ema is Mika
Oh god, holy shit. Those are like 2 completely opposite characters. Never would have placed the voice
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>>138611394
>Trap voiced by a girl
They didn't care, did they
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>>138611610
Young males are voiced almost exclusively by women.

It's easier to find a 20-30 something lady with professional training and years of experience (not even to mention actual talent) to just pitch their voice to sound like a preteen boy than it is to actually find a preteen boy that can somehow act as well as an adult professional.
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>>138611610
Not that Ryo.
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How many characters are there in [email protected]? I know idols are absurdly profitable but now I'm curious how well being in an idol anime is a measure of success.
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I love it, there are too many "main characters" though. The 3DCG girl has a really nice little mini-arc in the first half of the show, but by the second half she's nearly entirely absent, and I feel that it harms the overall work. I don't even remember her name, I had to look it up. She's probably my biggest (and only) real knock against what is probably my favorite anime.
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>>138612526
>Using 3Ds Bloatx in this day and age
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>>138612080
The original [email protected] cast is a narrow group of fairly elite singing seiyuu that are horrendously popular and successful. They don't do much anime simply because they don't have to.

Cinderella girls is like some sort of mobage that expands the cast into the hundreds. A "collect all the idols" sort of deal. Only the most popular and prominent from that spinoff actually have voices at all. Joudgasaki Mika is one of the most popular characters from the spinoff and had a major role in the anime adaptation, but the overwhelming majority of "cinderella girls" did not appear in the anime, do not have voices or seiyuu associated with them and do not have any associated music.
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>>138610987
proofs?
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>>138612661
I have no sources to give. You shouldn't take my word for it, but that infographic doesn't cite any sources or methodology, either. You should just take it (and whatever I say) with a grain of salt.

That probably doesn't satisfy, but it's all I got. Studies have been done on animator salaries, but their methodologies are flawed. It's not a homogenous market and many animator gigs are contract-based, meaning you might work six months out of the year on an animation project, and the next six months as a bagger at a supermarket. How is that factored into the "annual income" infographic? My guess is: naively. The only sensical way to assess this type of contractual compensation is based on hourly wage. But then you further complicate things when you factor in the per-drawing contracts a bunch of young and dumb foot-in-the-door types end up signing at sweat shops.

So my point is that it's a complex problem, and that's just the animators. All of that is being compressed into a single figure: $9400. Whether I'm right or wrong, nobody should be satisfied with that single data point.
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How do I marry Aoi chan?
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>>138613709
She's waiting for you in the life after this one, anon. Wear the engagement ring around the neck and jump lightly to the place where all things are good and happy. She's waiting there for you.
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>>138613709
nothing, she isn't real, anon
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Why oh why are there no good doujin?
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>>138613876

There are no doujin if the girls are pure
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>>138613876
The fuck you're saying m8?
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>>138613979
I really like Iguchi in that miko outfit.
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>>138614043
Too bad there's no better quality image of it. If there is then please forgive me.
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>>138613808
I ain't falling for this again
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Post your favourite bullyings.
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>>138615547
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The show was spotless in technical execution, but then again I don't have the sharpest eyes. It was presented realistically and the breaks in reality were humorous. I couldn't find any flaw in the story itself either

However, despite the technical perfection, I had to wrestle myself through it. Most of what happened could be predicted from a mile away and some intense moments turned out pretty lukewarm.
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>>138596570
Because it isn't a school drama anime.
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>>138615227
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You will never date Erika and have mad sex.

;_;

Why even production assistant?
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>>138616506
I wonder what kind of sex drive she has
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>>138615839
It was a lot more character-driven than plot-driven. Meaning that the plot mostly exists as a vehicle for the characters. The actual story is really simple, and basically goes the way they say it's gonna go from the beginning. Personally, the specific nature of some of the challenges they had to overcome were unexpected to me. But regardless, the whole point of a character-driven show is that it's supposed to work despite how simple the plot is. With just a really basic skeleton to hang character interaction on. This works for some people, and it doesn't for others.

For example, some plot-driven shows would be GiTS:SAC, LoTGH, Baccano (if I remember correctly, I should rewatch that), Berserk, plus most action shows. Some character-driven shows would be stuff where the plot isn't as important, like NGE, Shirobako, Hibike, most iyashikei and comedy. Tangentially, there's also theme-driven stuff, like GiTS '95, Tatami Galaxy, etc. Obviously all shows are a mix of these things. Some stuff like Cowboy Bebop for example is a really even split between character-driven and plot-driven (Bebop episodes were usually either plot eps or character eps).

So which of these you prefer is up to personal taste. I prefer character, then plot, then theme. But that's just me.

Like for example, the whole Zuka thing at the end was sort of predictable while still being clever in how it was composed, but it did kinda feel like a pulled punch. But I like the way it resolves the characters, and the way they interact in that scene, so to me that's more important. But I can definitely see why you'd be groaning through that scene if you really like a strong, satisfyingly complex plot.
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>>138615227
I've made and saved so many of these bully stuff, and >>138615547 is the worst

Surprised that GG and S!E didn't bring in this much bullying. Maybe I just didn't lurk enough in the threads
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>>138616560
Definitely more than most characters given her dominate personality and oral fixation.
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>>138616506
That's a real weird shirt
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The perfect girlfriend experience!

>>138616560
More horse power than a Double Wasp radial.

>>138618031
Yeah, the collars are cut out. I think the French have a word for that area.
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>>138618393
>tfw you will never have a date with Erika.
Life is harsh.
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Sweet mother of Bill.
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>>138611469
>people who don't like shit are trolling
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She is literally perfect.
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>>138611052

But she's working a dead end job that's taking her on a road away from her dream. That's a very relatable experience.
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I'd ram her, if you know what I mean.
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>>138619486
>not reading the post before replying
The whole point is that there's a difference between not liking something and thinking it's bad.
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