Kaido is just a new Vergo, he will be manhandled by luffy and the 2 mink bosses just you see.
Enel could defeat all the One piece universe, really. Remember that he wasn't defeat at all by Luffy, he just decided to fuck off and go to the moon.
The fact is: all shounen authors give the "lightning speed" power to characters and then make them useless, why it's probabily the strongest power one could have.
He doesn't even have lightning speed,the motherfucker got tagged by both Luffy and Viper and those characters were barely supersonic at best,his feats are way too inconsistent for that.Same goes for Kizzaru and his apparent light speed even though WB saw the light fromhis attack and even mentioned how bright it is seconds before it hit him.
SanjixNami fags got EPIC BTFO!
Everyone remember to do your best to appreciate Penguin today!
No episode today?
I know the anime is shit but at least there's gonna be king kong gun.
Please no. Vergo was the start of the absurd powerlevel bullshit in One Piece.
A vice admiral, former right hand of Dofy, One Fucking Shotted by Law.
This was fucking ridiculous. Making vice admirals complete fodder was ridiculous.
Now with only 3 admirals, you have to wonder why the Marines are even alive today, considering everything but them is complete shit, and so many pirates can take on one of those admirals.
>I go to 4 chan because it is sophisticated
>Now with only 3 admirals, you have to wonder why the Marines are even alive today, considering everything but them is complete shit, and so many pirates can take on one of those admirals.
Some anon described it best. If the marines were the strongest then the game is over. There would be no piracy. It makes sense that the strongest individuals would be pirates given both their numbers and their goals.
Admirals aren't weaklings. Just akainu made Blackbeard's entire crew run away. However in terms of matchups I think they are just above yonkou firstmates and below the yonkous themselves
Plenty of people have expressed disinterest in Wano being another "Straw Hats help benevolent royalty save their kingdom from the evil usurpers".
There's two enemies to deal with though with the Shogun and Kaido. We'll see how and who will deal with each.
>Now with only 3 admirals, you have to wonder why the Marines are even alive today
So I wonder whats stopping these pirates from crashing the WG now that they are at their lowest, they must have some trumpcard or maybe they are just good with negotiations.
One Piece threads exclusive
EPIC BTFO- an antagonist was defeated
JOBBER- lost a fight to anyone, while ignoring the definition of jobber
Stabbed in the heart - next crewmember
>all shounen authors give the "lightning speed" power to characters and then make them useless
I didn't ask for this feels.
Sabo? This is ZEHAHAHAHAHAHA got Epic BTFO year of SanjixJack is jobber threw the note you only need 3 nothing happened this chapter strong too.
Except having a broken as fuck devil fruit. People like to meme about badass devilfruitless fighters but in terms of a fight if you have two equals or even two people close to being equal the one with the devil fruit is going to win.
Vergo was the example of a perfectly competent fighter and master of martial arts and haki and still lost to devil fruit shenanigans. Literally no reason not to eat one in the One piece World. Vergo with any fruit other than sui sui and the jacket fruit beats Law
I agree, usually oda makes the villains over confident which usually leads to their defeat. Vergo haki was just weaker but in terms of speed, fighting, and strength he out matched law and that's why law couldn't get his heart back even with his OP DF
You can argue one way or the other, I don't actually care about this argument over power levels
but what can be said is that it was the beginning of "you can't beat me in a straight up fight because your haki isn't strong enough to hurt me"
It was also the beginning of full body haki, which was seemingly a Vergo thing before Pika pulls it out of absolutely nowhere, which cheapened the concept.
>>He could have dodged
jesus christ shut up with that bullshit. Of course he could have. Point is he didn't. You're like that little kid who sits behind his big brother when he's playing videogames and every time he dies asks the question "why didnt you just dodge?"
>Moving at the speed of light
>e=mc² means smiply moving a 150lb man is Galaxy destroying
>stopping requires an equal and opposite force
No enel isn't the strongest person in OP if you want to play the physics game.
Oh please. Vergo lost because of Law's fruit. Nothing more. Nothing less. No one ever said full body Haki was exclusive to Vergo. You only hve yourself to blame for assuming bullshit.
>tfw you get a (you) but it was this
From next Weekly Jump!
Here is a pic of the legendary gambler "Raise Max". According to the article, he seems to belong to Revolutionary Army. He says, "This is the final gamble in my life!!"
Reminder that Akainu was the most effective admiral. The other two were just lazy fags with op fruits. The same goes for Fuji. A blind guy who is addicted to gambling. Akainu is the only one who did the job right.
I want a sparrow sized Monet for domestic ownership
>Vergo was the start of the absurd powerlevel bullshit in One Piece.
Luffy was on course to punch a falling boat the size of an island to pieces in the previous arc. One Piece "power levels" are already outrageous.
Vergo was explicitly stated to have mastered Haki to an exceptional level. When he pulls a full-body Haki it's kind of implicit that it's HIS shit. Even if he's not the only person in One Piece who could do it it really seems like he should at least have been the only person working under doffy who could.
We're reaching a point where everyone is shiny and black all the time. It's going to be like that shit from dragon ball where Goku and Gohan are just leisurely hanging around in SS.
So far only 2 characters used full body haki and even in Dressrosa the majority of characters did not have armament haki. There is no reason at all to believe it will turn out like that at some point.
Luffy and Chinjao's armament and conqueror's haki were featured prominently.
Armament played a significant role for Doflamingo, it's why he could take so much physical damage and Gear 2nd and 3rd weren't cutting it. You even see him use it when Luffy dropkicks him in Gear 4, which Doflamingo survives the initial onslaught of despite it being one sided.
Pika's was the most concerning since he just pulled out full body as if was nothing at the end, and Zoro pulled out his own armament haki to deal with it.
It might not get as extreme as some exaggerate but it is undeniably becoming very prominent now and it started picking up on Punk Hazard most notably with Vergo.
Though I can imagine Kaido looking cool with haki.
>Strongest character in One Piece
So Momonosuke in One Piece is a parallel to the Momotaro story.
Who are the 3 animals that join Momotaro, the dog, the pheasant and the monkey, and help him defeat the Oni king?
I can see two possibilities here:
- Luffy is the monkey and the other two are not revealed yet.
-His three retainers are the three animals.
I believe it is the second one.
Kinemon is called the foxfire and foxes and dogs belong to the same family.
Kanjuro has drawn more than one time birds on Dressrosa, he could be the pheasant, although it's still a weak link.
Raizou is the monkey, he's agile, looks like a monkey and he was link to bariete, the monkey mink, for the 'etetete' misunderstanding.
And of course, Kaido is the Oni king.
No, Sentomaru is Kintaro the golden boy, another japanese story
The admirals have only their codename and behaviour like in Momotaro story, but obviously in One Piece they are not related to Momonosuke.
Like I said in >>138586102
I thought we all knew that the names of the admirals were from Momotaro, but this is on another level of parallels with the tale, this is the real thing, the fight with the Oni king
Carrot is High-Key telling Wanda she's too old to be the Newkama right here.
So would Rayleigh, but such veterans are rather out of place, especially if you go by Fisher Tiger's last words to his crew, their old generation can't bring about change to the world, it's for the new generation, Brook is something of an odd exception.
To be fair the nature of Law's power is he can do w/e he wants whenever it is convenient for the plot.
We have no idea what makes his power grow stronger or become more effective than Vergo's haki. I'm waiting for a moment where his df will fail against a stronger opponent.
>posting this fat, autistic nigger
but i like fat autistic niggers
Anons i need your help
Anyone here has pirate warriors 3 on steam
i recently got the game and i bought all the dlc because i wanted to play as film Z luffy
but i only got a bunch of samurai costumes for everyone and film z costumes for Zoro and Sanji, for some reason i didn't get the costume for luffy
i guess my only option is to pirate it, because there is nothing else for me to buy on the store but i can't find this dlc anywhere
if anyone here has the game and the costume could you please check on your game files, there should be a folder called "DLC" it looks like this
i think im just missing a little file that should contain the costume, if you could please upload it somewhere so i can get it in my game i would be very thankful
Franky can't steal Law's nakama
So is he going to use another secret weapon to kill the elephant?
Or is he going to use his fruit power?
I don't see how he's going to kill it when he couldn't even take care of the minks.
i got a steam key in exchange for a shitty indie game
so technically i didn't buy the game i just redeemed the key on steam
i did buy all the dlc because it was cheap, but now i see that it was a big mistake becasue it doesn't have the only costume that i really want to use
i don't why it is not there, it is not supposed to be pre order dlc like fish luffy or sabo as lucy
His buddy isn't there to get into a fight of one-upmanship with.
luffy can carry an arc alone. or did you forget impel down
>forgetting about Buggy
I don't think they will carry the arc alone, the next arc is gonna have a shit load of new characters since they said many people from the New World were invited. Likely not like Dressrosa where they all become allies but they will instead be set up as antagonists for the long run (we might get a Disaster representing Kaido's crew for instance).
The real question is if the main conflict of the next arc is Big Mom and her crew or Sanji's family and Germa 66.
step your game up senpai
thats the point. all of their characters blend with luffy well. i guarantee pekoms will have some quirks that match buggy, mr 3, bon-chan, jinbei, croc.
dubbed music can be better in many cases
Not that guy, but all one piece devil fruits are based off a concept.
Basically, they take a well known property of something and make whoever has eaten the fruit the pinnacle of that property.
Electricity can move fast. Can individual electrons move fast? Not really, but everyone knows "lighting is fast" so Enel can move fast.
Really, Enel should move at about the speed of 1.2 inches/min, as that's how fast the physical electrons in electricity move.
Can rubber perfectly block electricity? No, but it is pretty good at it.
Can rubber completely absorb physical impact, and stretch incredibly far? No, but Luffy can.
Devil fruits are magic pretty much. They are more driven by what the fruit should be known for, rather than what it can actually do.
Just look at Alvida, so slippery even swords can't hit her?
>autist youtube anime/manga reviewers
please don't sexualize Chopper.
kitto kimi wa itsunohika
kono sora o taberu wa zudakara
nando tsuma zuita toshitemo... For You
daisetzu na koto wa hitatsu
yume hiru koto
kokora daka wa tozasa naideite (La la la la)
La la la la la la la...
Please don't sexualize the Chopper
>j-just so we're clear, I'm worth d-double of him!
Someone pad him in the head. His insecurity is coming out HAHAHAHA
Aside from luffy, if a strawhat had his/her own arc(s) who would you pick?
Yeah, jokes aside, while I know most of the fans hate the filler-tier parts where "nothing happens", I honestly wouldn't mind more comfy day to day life on the ship once in a while, where the crew just hang out and have some playful banter
Zoro or Franky. Zoro is great as Luffy's right hand man, but having him lead for once would be amazing. Franky was great when he was independant during Water 7 and Enies Lobby, since he joined the crew he's been pretty watered down as a character.
>I know most of the fans hate the filler-tier parts where "nothing happens"
I really wish that they showed more of the travels through the sea. The part where they are descending to Fishman Island must be my favorite part in that arc. The part between PH and Dressrosa was pretty fun too, but a little too short. The travel between Dressrosa and Zou wasn't as good because of Barto sucking at navegation, though that was funny itself.
dream team of brains and brawn right here will subdue jack
Nami is just a slut now. Kind of sad that she just exists so they can make lewd models of her to sell. Oh well, they're still hot.
nigga please, Nami is the same she always was
When should we expect to see how Volume 81's cover is going to look like? So much happened in so few chapters that I can't imagine just what they'll put on the cover.
I doubt we'll get Raizou or Poneglyphs as that'd be kind of a spoiler. I hope the volume is called Tea Party Invitation or Take Me with You!!, though I could see it being named The Curly Hat Pirates Arrive or 10 Days ago.
>inb4 Zou accidentally steps on Jack and his ships
>the strawhats carry on with their plans without noticing
Vergo lost because he underestimated Law, he literally just took his hit.
This was the whole point of hose last few panels. He just took it.
Unfortunately, like most enemies. Luffy would have never beaten 90 % of his enemies if they weren't so cocky.
>6 years since the TS and fags are still salty.
That salt-mine is going to last until the end of OP and then some.
I hope that the timeskip wouldn't have focused so much on giving everyone flashy designs. Their clothes just after the timeskip look awkward, like they were trying to dress up in a cool way, but end up looking like it's just a costume instead of normal clothes. It doesn't help that they each focus on one or two colors.
Oda kind of fixed with Dressrosa, but the early impressions still remain.
daily reminder that nekomamushi is already the best character in one piece
inuarashi is based too, though
I know, but those are still the default clothes in every media. And they are pretty bad. This makes it hard not to associate them with post timeskip, and they are clearly inferior to the pre timeskip defaults.
Why not Lucci 4 Nakama?!!!
Objective strongest character list (in order)
Tier 1. Shanks
Tier 2. Dragon, Kaido, Big Mom
Tier 3. Sakazuki, Mihawk, Blackbeard
Tier 4. Rayleigh, Garp, Sengoku, Borsalino, Kuzan, Issho
Tier 5. Jack, Doflamingo, Hancock, Kuma, Marco
I'm not sure if I agree but its a sensible list, but I think the Yonkou are all on par with eachother, Shanks might be marginally stronger, he seems to have a smaller crew, and not a proper fleet. Dragon might be as strong or stronger than any of them.
>seriously thinking he wouldn't be obliterated by a Yonko
Sakazuki got manhandled by Newgate, who was far past his prime, so sick he couldn't even fight properly, and was bleeding out from several stab wounds and cannonball wounds.
To think that Whitebeard wasn't the weakest Yonko at that time would be stupid given his old age. Sakazuki would get destroyed by Dragon or the Yonko.
I think Shanks is slightly stronger. I agree that Dragon is definitely on par with the Yonko.
Shanks is the strongest character right now. He won't be killed by Blackbeard contrary to popular theories, Oda won't play into this trope (at least I don't think so)
>>He doesn't rate luffy in there somewhere at this point
Because he's weaker than all the characters mentioned? Luffy's become strong, as in, capable of hanging out with big players, but just like Law, he can't handle these players by himself at the moment, as shown in Dressrosa.
I just want to see a strong as fuck, as in Admiral-strong, character who isn't affiliated to any organization and just does his thing.
Rayleigh and Kuzan don't count
Will we ever see a worthwhile bounty hunter?
Respond to this post if you're waiting for MY NIGGA DRAGON to run up on some niggas.
early spoilers leaked
zoro one shots jack
jack's subbordinates said it wouldn't have happened if sengoku didn't injure him
momonosuke kneels before zoro and asks to be his disciple
>having Zoro lead for once would be amazing.
Stairs = bad
Left and right are identical
It would just be Zoro getting lost then getting angry at people for giving him bad directions
I love it
IT'S GONNA BE GLORIOUS, BROTHERS
Oh god please let it be true.
Y+: Roger, Prime Garp, Prime Whitebeard, Dragon
Y: Prime Sengoku, Shanks, the Kaido, Big Mom, Mihawk, Prime Rayleigh
Y-: Old Garp, Old Whitebeard, Blackbeard
A+: Old Sengoku, Old Rayleigh, Sakazuki,
A: Kuzan, Borsalino
A-: Issho, Doffy, Jack, G4 Luffy
That would be very cool for zorofags to wank to, but I don't think so, no.
The problem with Luffy's strength right now, is that even though Gear 4 is probably on par with any Admiral or maybe even any character in One Piece, he can only keep it for a while, while you have Admirals going at it for 10 days or so
There's no brakes on the Revolutionary train
>implying a whole population counts as one character
I didn't include characters in their prime.
Why did you put Dragon above Shanks?
I also don't think Rayleigh was much weaker than Roger in his prime.
Issho is stronger than Doflamingo. Just because he didn't fight doesn't mean he's weaker than other admirals.
>Why did you put Dragon above Shanks?
Nigga is the most wanted man in the world and the son of Garp who was a monster in his prime.
>I also don't think Rayleigh was much weaker than Roger in his prime.
not much but still most likely weaker.
>Issho is stronger than Doflamingo. Just because he didn't fight doesn't mean he's weaker than other admirals.
this might be true
>most boring SH getting the main spotlight and even more focus
>Iva not being second on command
So how did Sabo even take that despite being probably the last leader to join? And yeah he could be the second strongest from dragon training but then in that case why didn't dragon train any of the other leaders
Whitebeard was missing half his head after their scuffle and was so weakened from that, he died from handguns. Akainu was bulldozing the rest of Whitebeard's commanders, Crocodile, Jinbe, and Ivankov all at once and recovered in less than two weeks with no visible scars.
>mihawk over old whitebeard
>mihawk test slashing whitebeard at the beginning to see how close their gap in strength is
>slash doesn't even reach him
Yes I know jozu blocked it but I think Oda meant that to show whitebeard is stronger than mihawk
Iva was probably second in command before Sabo reached his current level. He was probably appointed recently, as in not much earlier than around the timeskip.
I also think Sabo's underrated, guy's probably admiral material.
>most wanted man
Just because he's the most wanted man doesn't mean he's stronger, with that logic you're basically arguing about bounty. And ok he's garp son doesn't automatically put him above yonkos. You would think buggy would be strong since he was under Roger yet he can't even beat luffy
wanted level still doesn't equal power level
8 year old robin was nowhere near as strong as crocodile
Teaches bounty was 0 but beat ace who was worth 500,000,000
Dragon is strong but he hasn't done anything yet except save Luffy from Smoker yet
That's actually not half-bad for fan art although I could be wrong. I dig the "half arm hardened" deal.
I really wanna see how much stronger Dragon is. From the first time I saw Sabo use any haki Talon moves, I instantly knew Dragon's version would shit all over it.
Oda has never pushed Zoro as a Vegeta type, he's just not as important as Luffy and will never get comparable screen time. The only reason he used to was because the crew was so small, focus could be doled out more evenly.
>implying I wrote the list
>calling out people on their grammar in current year
>people think one piece is a show where people only fights with swords
>not knowing Mihawk would get rekt by shanks stronger haki or big moms haki+devil fruit or bay kaido or by fujitora
Yes fugitora beating Mihawk doesn't mean he is a stronger swordsman. It just mean fujitora has a op devil fruit
If Luffy and Sanji were absent he'd be the one to take the lead. Luffy is going to help Sanji, so it'll likely happen. I just hope that they don't just show bits of it like with the Curly Hats.
>I really wanna see how much stronger Dragon is
Probably much stronger. I have nothing to support that claim, but I think Dragon's definitely going to be endgame-tier in strength
Remember how after Sabaody, the rest of the crew was gone for two years, that pretty much cemented the fact that Oda sees them as supporting characters to Luffy, not actually protagonists in their own right.
Luffy told them to sit and wait for him, but knowing how chaotic One Piece is, I'm guessing something will force them to Wano. Still, it doesn't matter, what will happen is we'll see them two years later when Luffy and Sanji catch up to them at Wano.
They weren't doing anything that would advance the plot though. Just like with Luffy in Rusukaina, and we saw less of him there than of the crew on their respective islands.
The crew going to Wano would be very important, as it'd be the setup for the Kaidou arc. They can't not show that.
>You don't lead the single largest and most successful opposition to the WG without being a monster yourself.
That's what I've been thinking. He's the single leader of the Revolutionaries. I know there are the other revolutionary leaders as well as Sabo, but if you compare the revs to the other big organizations, they're the only one with one single representative, unlike the marines (three, four counting the fleet admiral), the Yonko (four) or the Shichibukai
Which leads me to assume he's easily stronger than the current admirals
Here's your proof >>138598768
you literally put dragon on the same level as prime WB,Roger and garp. Yet put a prime Rayleigh and sengoku on the same level as the current yonkos. How is that not you just using you head canon? Then you put BB under them but put him above Akainu. Then you put both admirals under him and then you're putting luffy gear 4 on admiral level.
that's just you thinking up shit with no proof at all behind it. You can prove that Kuzan is under akainu and doffy is weaker then gear 4 maybe but most of that shit is just how you would like it. Plus you didn't add a prime shiki in the group
so like I said your list is pure shit
I know that feeling too. Also
>The crew going to Wano would be very important, as it'd be the setup for the Kaidou arc. They can't not show that.
Because it's important is why Oda will off-screen it, he will want us to experience it with Luffy just like how Zou was kept in secret until he arrived. Luffy's the viewpoint character, we will see most of Wano's secrets unfold with him.
>we saw less of him there than of the crew on their respective islands.
No, instead we got two years with just him in Amazon Lily, Impel Down, and Marineford along with a ten-chapter flashback to his childhood. One Piece sadly isn't an ensemble show, it's the Luffy show.
>finally started to take effect after ten days
As I said, that's not inferiority, that's equality
Can you imagine fighting someone for ten days?
Also, the climate on Punk Hazard was also a way to show that they were matched
I'm not saying we'll see it right away, I'm saying that it won't be a rushed telling of what happened only showing the important bits like with Sanji. It will be like a proper arc, just without Luffy.
Besides I don't think Oda will do the same shit again. It shouldn't be a flashback.
Did you even understand my point? The others didn't do anything important on their respective islands other than training. Luffy did way more important things, which is why we saw them. That's why I compared his stay at Rusukaina with what the rest of the crew did.
I never denied it being Luffy's show. But more than that it's the plot show, showing what's important to the plot, like Luffy trying to save Ace; and not showing what's not that important, like training.