WHY DOESN'T THE MC REALIZED IT
He is a master of deception, literally nobody on /a/ figured it out and then started damage controlling and saying how they knew it was him all along. No you did not you bunch of liars.
I think this is a play on the viewers as well, it was so obvious even pre-R2 Nunnally can see it.
But the viewer is convinced that since it was too obvious It can't be that guy, that's way too easy and dumb to make him the culprit, as the MC was also blinded by his trust.
But of course this does not excuse the lame ass writing of the series. And yes I'm fucking piss
>literally nobody on /a/ figured it out
Because Yashiro is an adult that Satoru had respect for and who appeared to be a good person. It makes sense to him in retrospect, but there wasn't really anything to incriminate Yashiro before this point.
It might be obvious to the audience, but not to the characters.
>Autists saying this episode sucked
>autists not knowing how to put themselves in Satorus shoes
>autist saying this wasn't logical
I'm sorry but all of you are just making fun of tourselves
>put themselves in Satorus shoes
That's the good part of the show. The really good part. Empathizing with his knowing but not necessarily being able to change events. Prescience and vulnerability is a great combination of character traits.
I guess you have to be into this whole Cassandra archetype to get the most out of this show. I know I am.
He went to the past, so he regained a bit of his personality from back then. Hell, even if he acted a bit like a 29 yo, he would have made the same mistakes, and because his body and a part of his mind is 11 (not exactly his 29 yo self back in the past), he fucks up. Well he would have fucked up anyway. That's perfectly normal. He doesn't have nakama power nor is he overpowered. He's human.
Even 33 year old kids know more about the world than 7 year old kids. Especially when it comes to manga tropes.
I'm surprised he didn't make more foibles trying to use cell phones and modern tech when at the time you needed a marine and a small jeep to haul that equipment around.
So...why did the MC open up the glove compartment? Why would he look for candy in there and why did he offer candy to sensei in the first place when it's not even his car? Did whoever write this just forget how people work?
Because he couldn't make a decent living as a manga artist, were you paying any attention?
He was a cynical adult with a failed career, not a manchild playing with amiibos. But even legit manchildren don't act like their 10/11 year old selfs. Satoru has trouble finding his seat and he mentions having to put up with retarded children once, and then everything's forgotten.
If this isn't some soul traveling bullshit and the problem is that he has to deal with his tiny underdeveloped preteen brain that would have been an interesting angle to explore. Having knowledge of being an adult but being gimped by your own physical development.
Instead you get preteen romance that ends halfway through the story and leaves a void filled with mediocre bullshit.
>He doesn't even sex them.
Well, I mean, that goes without saying though right? They're just kids after all. They haven't even developed breasts yet. Why would someone find that sexy?
Whatever episode this happened in (6 or 7?). It made the connection that red eyes = murderous intent. Take sensei, give him red eyes and you get the killer.
There was a post in the second episode thread where someone figured it out.
His older brother raped little girls that he got for him. He just went along with to avoid getting wedgies I guess, since there's no way he could be seriously abusing him at the time (they lived with their parents and Yashiro was their favorite). Then he discovers that the only thing that excites him in life is watching other people suffer and die so that's what he does. He doesn't even care if they are children, he kills men and women too. He's just a run of the mill angsty villain with nothing interesting to say and no good motive.
I thought in one of the early episodes they established that he had a tendency to skip town after murders had been committed and he'd done it in a neighbouring town too. Which is why I thought it couldn't be the teacher, he's too tied down to the community.
He was literally the only person it could have been other than Yuuki. Or did you expect them to introduce a new character as the villain near the end?
In the context of the show it makes sense that no one realized it -- could have been anyone. But for the viewer there was never a question of who it could have been.
>mfw Satoru suspects Yuuki's dad for just a second and then says "naw he be too nice"
>not a trap
It's a series where the main character randomly jumps through time and it's never explained. All kinds of crazy shit could have happened.
Anyone who was paying any attention at all noticed that he was the prime suspect because the show was actively trying to make him look suspicious from the start, along with there not being other voiced adult males. The only difference is that some people didn't want to believe that the story could be so simple and were expecting some new twist.
The first episode he's in I guess, not to boast that this is some accomplishment the series is just really crappy.
Kidnapper was shown to be a black haired male from the start, at least 2 of the victims were in his class, the killer taunts the MC and was close enough to target his mother when he realizes she'd be a threat. But they don't make him too suspicious, they make him do the nice guy routine to take "some of the heat off"
Sure other characters seemed "suspicious" but the Kayo's mother didn't fit the bill since she's a woman, and the smart kid was just a weird nosy fag.
>the girl he loved ends up with a fag that wanted his dick
>the other girl has no memories of him
Truly, this is what it must feel like to be
What were the clues that it was him?
>didn't want to introduce 'random surprise character the reader hasn't met/been informed of'.
>'someone I know & knew the mother'
Situational stuff is that he's a teacher with privileged information about most of the kids he went after. Was the car scene about no gf/wife meant to be a proper clue or just innocent perma-virgin spaghetti spilling? I don't recall any 'and now I drop my facade for half a second as this kid foils all my plans for 3 separate kids'.
If anything it could have been just about ANYONE in town both MC and mother knew.
It needed more male black haired adults. It makes a direct note of 'killer knows me and my mother, personally'. And then the only male with black hair during the kill period is teacher. Too fucking blunt.
>blushing every moment
>saying she's pretty
>depressed when she leaves
>became emotional when she gave him her present
>visiting the Christmas tree together
>that MY HERO scene
He's just an idiot, he admitted it himself, what more do you need? He looked up to the teacher like he was an actual child when in reality he was older than him. He's probably older than any of them in fact, and comes to the past with the knowledge that there's a serial killer around them who's been watching the kids. He even sees his name in a list of suspects and ignores it because fuck it, the man has a way with words.
Only a complete moron would trust a teacher blindly like he did or waste all of his time befriending little kids instead of trying to find the killer, like that would frustrate him so much that he would just give up on kidnapping children somehow.
I think it had to do with his father. He associated Yashiro with a father already and I think he was subconsciously searching for a substitution for the missing father in him - he just didn't want him out of all people to be the killer. Especially after he helped him and Kayo a bunch of times.
Satoru acts in the 80s timeline much more like a kid with the memories of a 30 years old than a 30 years old in the body of a kid. And I think that's intentional.
Also, he justified him ignoring the list of suspects because he had zero reliance on police work after they arrested Jun.
Many women have thing for older men. It's even a kinda popular trope in Josei and Shoujo manga. I also knew a bunch of female classmates who had a crush on teachers so why not? Especially since Satoru and Airi were friends. Age is unimportant as long as the partner isn't looking too fucking old which usually isn't the case with ~30 year olds. Saturo could have been 24 or something if you go by the looks.
Actually, it was pretty obvious when Satoru got arrested and you could see the red eyes of that pedophile
Hell, Satoru had a better relationship with Kumi than Airi.
>this is how Yashiro gets caught
All that shit and this is how it ends.
The only way it's intentional is because it's easy to write it that way. Exploring the life a man who slips back into his young self and relives the 80s could be the setting for an entire comedy or slice of life series, but the author didn't want to deal with that headache and basically ignored it after a few chapters. Just like he wasn't interested in explaining the revivals. It's all very shallow, which wasn't a problem because most of us were in it for the defenseless loli, but now that she's out we are forced back into the main plot.
People fall in love with each other because of their fucking characters and depending on how psychologically compatible they are. I don't know were you live but I've never met someone who cares about the fucking job of his crush.
Also, before he does the courage tackle he talks about all his nakama. Basically won by the power of friendship.
A veterinarian woman finds him and contacts the ambulance. He's in a coma for about 11 years.
Kayo is the only reason for this anime's success, you'd have to be an idiot to think otherwise. She's front and center after the first episode and the strongest moments are about her. The studio could have shortened her story and avoided a situation where they have to cram the last third of the story in two episodes but they didn't, because she's the selling point.
Why didn't they know who the car owner was? I don't really get that.
It seems like it was Yashiro's car or one of his cars, so they have to know the owner thanks to the car tag.
<I don't know were you live but I've never met someone who cares about the fucking job of his crush.
You aren't living in the real world aren't you?
I was talking about people I know or knew, so no. You must be retarded if you choose your partners based upon superficial stuff like their job instead of their character traits and hobbies.
What a fucking shit anime. OF course the teacher was going to be the culprit. This was obvious since he first appeared. They've only had about... 5 or so adults with any character and most of those were women, with the sensei being the only legitimate male adult character that had any personality attached to it.
Predictable plot. Shitty plot devices. Plotholes. Filler bullshit comprising 70% of the series. People seriously think this is AOTS material? 3/10 anime at best.
Why wasn't Kenya the killer? He definitely looks like a villain
Was it his car? Was it not? In the end it doesn't matter, pic related is all you get. (Nishizono is Yashiro's new name)
>You must be retarded if you choose your partners based upon superficial stuff like their job instead of their character traits and hobbies.
Or I pick people on my level and not below it. Imagine her parent's reaction on who her daughter is dating, absolute disappointment.
>they kept calling him smart
>he does nothing
>studies to become a lawyer/detective while his butt buddy sleeps for 11 years
>has to rely on a man that recently woke up from a coma to catch the killer
That's fucking weird.
Unless he removed the numberplate but they should mention it in that case. It's irrelevant which car model it was, there are tons of people with the same model. And why did they conclude that there is no correlation? Satoru is in his class and Sensei doesn't even have an alibi, rather the opposite. He was there during the hockey game and suddently disappeared even though he promised the children a bento.
Why did he have "several cars of the same make and color in the area that he can use at a moment's notice"? What the hell does that accomplish? And even though he has them, they are not his cars and apparently the police can't track them back to him.
yeah shure , only two adult male characters in there.
and of course tipical anime plot will try to made the culprit be the "nice person that can't be te culprit" and jun will look like the stereotipe of person that can be a rapist.
They often do shit like these in not known animes all the time
I always hoped he was a time traveller as well. That would also explain his intelligence and how he noticed Satoru's chenged behaviour so quickly. I was even sure he was a traveller when he lied to him about that book, it sounded like a way to confirm that Satoru hasn't as much informations about the current time or time line as he should have as "native".
It's entirely possible that the author wasn't sure of where he wanted to take the story and Ken'ya could have ended up something like that. The same way it wasn't really a mystery and the teacher was the obvious suspect, but he still wasn't shown directly, so the identity of the killer could have changed.
Some authors start with an idea of the story they want to tell, but many of them just wing it and cover their asses in a way that they can add or remove arcs or change the plot depending on the sales or what they feel like writing 2 or 3 years in the future.
Social standard levels are meaningless. Most people stopped caring about society ages ago, everyone just lives how he wants nowadays. Again, this might be very different depending on the region people live in but two of the happiest pairings I know are actually a guy with female NEET partner and a girl with a NEET husbando. I think it depends on the type of NEET. It's a difference if it's some fag who wastes all his free time by watching tv and smoking
like my girl cousinor some normal, intelligent person with lots of hobbies who just happens to not have an actual job. Satoru even has a job, has or had hobbies like drawing and acts nice towards others so I see nothing wrong with him.
>Last place Satoru told his friends he was going was were sensei was
>He somehow ends up in a river trapped in a car similar to senseis
>Fuck finding DNA samples in the car, that's dumb
>Sensei goes free
Wouldn't wonder about that. Although Bokudake seems like one of theose rather rare cases in which authors actually have a whole story concept in mind before they start their series. But maybe he changed it for some reasons like length or something.
>anime focuses on the teacher for no reason
>literally the only other suspect
its like a bad murder mystery that only gives you two suspects but basically tells you the first one is innocent. doesn't take a genius to figure it out
But that timeline he knows her (kinda stalker creepy) and they've met once at the hospital 8~ years prior. Who is to say that her personality he remembers from timeline 1 at the fast food place is how she is years after that?
That the car was the same model is meaningless, just complete fucking nonsense. The teacher even says that he always has a bunch of the same cars around but never had an use for them. Of course he didn't, because it's fucking idiotic. It's not like his modus operandi is luring kids that already know what car he uses and then throwing them in a river. Would Satoru even have doubted him if he just told him he bought a new car? Would he even have noticed it was a different model in the first place?
By focusing on the issue of the car model like it's somehow a relevant argument, they avoid having to explain anything else that actually matters about the investigation. This is beyond hack writing, it's a tactic that you pick up by flaming internet boards, not doing creative writing.
> Kid locked in seatbelt
> Car dunked into frozen river
> Signs of struggle, injured hands etc.
There's only one possible explanation for this evidence.
Suicide. Everyone go home, the case is solved.
I wouldn't wonder if casuals actually didn't figure this out. The normalfags I know who casually watch an anime from time to time never see any twists coming no matter how obvious they are. They always talk to each other and wonder about every single shit someone with half of a brain figures out in the very first episode.
I found it kinda funny that once Satoru saved Kayo the series lost most of its direction. Like the author didn't think much past that point. Also that last bit of sympathy they tried to squeeze out by bringing Akemi's mother into the mix was just tasteless.
>sure she abused and even killed her daughter b-but it's because of the father!
Don't be absurd.
I would have asked Sensei if has a knife. He could probably flee or cry for help as long as the killer hasn't won't use a method that kills him almost instantly.
How does he kill his victims anyway? Most serial killers tend to strangle them.
no getting out of there
was thinking this instantly as soon as the seatbelt was hard to get on part happened
I didn't think they would do something as retarded as give a child a solid couple of minutes to be able to get out of a seatbelt that he can't unbuckle without even saying "oh shit I can't get more slack I'm really trapped", I thought it would be like careening towards something and he would only have a few seconds to react to it
this was literally a 10/10 show but it tanked the instant kayo was out of the picture
damn shame, I have to finish it now but this is legitimately one of the most disappointing anime I have ever seen
So because he didn't slip out of the seatbelt like you idiots suggested, the anime is terrible? Have you ever been in a pressured situation? You don't think straight, you panic and most of all you have only one thing on your mind which is survival.
As if any of you fools would have slipped under the belt considering the graveness of the situation.
The stupid bitch defends a possible murderer because of a chocolate bar.
it's more like no one believed it to be sensei because it was too obvious and when they finally get the reveal, we're like oh that's lame (well not really because the Satoru's face was golden).
It's like the Jesus reveal in Drifters. It was obvious but once it's revealed, it's kind of lame it didn't surprise you with someone else.
>leans forward to shout
>comes out as a pathetic wheeze because the lower part of the seatbelt is now squeezing his guts and pushing his diaphragm up
I'd like to think somebody considered this, though it's probably unlikely.
oh yeah that part
ok 10/10 is an exaggeration but this shit was really fucking good
also the whole bit with the candy in the teacher's car didn't strike me as bad because I assumed it was a red herring so when it was revealed that the teacher was the killer, and THEN the whole stupid shit with the seatbelt it just all came tumbling down at once for me
silly of me to think that a mangaka could actually write a competent murder mystery
The manager is worried for her because she is housing a guy who ran away from his mothers murder scene. She broke his phone to stop him calling the police but now he could just go to the police and get her arrested for assault.
Charging someone for assault is like the least effective way of getting in their teenage pants. Manager just wants Satoru out of the picture because he's threatened by competition and wants that underaged pussy for himself, but he's not going to shoot himself in the foot and chase that piece of ass away.
I guessed who it was in episode 3 without reading any threads or the manga. It was foreshadowed in the anime by an extremely excessive amount. It just became painful to watch the reveal without wanting to scream 'WE KNOW ALREADY'.
He's worried because he wanted to hump her. This is the face of a man who's jealous as fuck.
The manager would of been plausible if they didn't shove the foreshadowing of the teacher down the viewers throat all the time and the obvious nice guy act he pulls.
Was it better in the manga? surely it couldn't of been this obvious.
It's just awkward that the fag boy and Kayo end up together.
Guys, you don't understand.
Hiromi sucked off Satoru while he was asleep and used Satoru's semen to impregnate Kayo.
Hiromi is a true bro.
Totally disappointed the episode didn't end with this so we could actually feel the weight of the (obvious) reveal
Satoru was in a fucking coma for like 15 years.
Hard to fucking wait that long, especially when the "love" you had was just child love that was underdeveloped.
Although I would have figured she'd get with Kenya or something.
Jesus christ, is that what to expect at the end of this?
It's a good theory. Sadly whoever wrote this shit put more effort into writing the NTR scenario than anything else.
What are the chances of marrying someone from primary school you didn't even talk to anyway? She went through primary school, middle school, high school, possibly college and whatever jobs she had, not to mention moving in with her grandmother, and somehow ended up with the girly boy from her old class, just to spite the readers.
>being mad over Old and Busted "used goods" Kayo being taken
>not seeing the light and realizing Satoru now gets that new hotness, prime 20 year old Airi
Childhood friend fags getting absolutely btfo by the based author
Hey, Kayofag. This is your ship. Now stay mad.
The only thing he knows about her is that a chocolate bar killed her daddy and that she likes taking pictures of the sky and it took her nearly the entire manga to tell him about the pictures.
I was 99% sure it was him the second they showed him because he looks exactly the same as he does 20 years later. I really hoped it wouldn't be him. What a fucking disappointment.
The anime improves vastly on the original, and now all that's left is the MC waking up in the future, falling asleep again, waking up again, having amnesia and going in circles until he finally remembers and then a chapter or two later it ends. Not worth it.
I always fail to see anything wrong with Boku Dake art.
Does massive amounts of sameface not mean anything to you?
Even though this might be technically bad and it made me laugh for like a full minute, it does help with the reveal.
he is very lucky person getting wiping his ass from his mother
mah boy Satoru got the golden shower going on
Made me remember bad memories.
So he goes into a coma and his mom has to miss out on her son growing up and see him grow up as a vegetable. Not only that his friends visit and tell him they have great lives with successful careers. He also gets NTR by the girl the manga spent 3/4 developoing thier relationship. And last, he gets together with the girl who has no idea who the fuck he is.
There are people who actually liked the ending
He ends up with best girl at the end anyways
Or at least I tell myself this so I don't break my monitor
She got taken advantage of after being so trusting, was broken and is now a sex worker. The footsteps show them getting closer, what normal girl would do that with a stranger she just met seconds ago? They only met for a minute years before, there's no way she recognized him just like that.
That ending only made me more pissed. It was a surreal ship trying to shoehorn a happy ending. Suddenly the bully bitch was a tsundere all along, yeah, no thanks.
And every other person who was murdered or sentenced because the revival is such a worthless skill and apparently you only get a second chance to save someone if she's going to cuck you later.
I just realized something. The last time I watched so many child murders go unpunished was in Rampo Kitan. Ken'ya in Erased is also named Kobayashi after the same character. Might be something to look out for in the future.
Realistically he would never have woken up. She would have ended up an old woman working part time and sitting next to a hospital bed, while the classmates grow increasingly annoyed and look for excuses to stop having to waste money on a vegetable they shared a classroom with for a couple of years several decades ago. Those were her future prospects during that entire time.
I want to bury my face in Kobayashi's butt.
Whatever episode it was we found out that Teacher already know of Kayo's home condition but hadn't already done something. It made the possibility either really really shitty teacher or killer.
That combined with Teacher constantly taking with all the little girls in class.
Basically, anyone who didn't guess it was Teacher pretty early on was just deluding themself.
Side note, best second guess would have been Yuuki's dad. There weren't enough clues for any other person in the series. If it hadn't have been either of those two the writing would have been absolute shit for doing an asspull.
The manga ending was a fucking copy paste of Evangelion's.
Neither guy will end up with the girl
If I was a highschool girl and some guy knew all my interests beforehand I'd be freaked the fuck out too.
What's difficult to understand, anons just related to Kurosawa and hoped it would work out for him. Hoped his story might demonstrate how the weird masturbating loner actually does have a shot against all odds.
Then he just gets NTR'd out of the blue in a painfully realistic way and everyone got crushed by the fact not even in fiction can it be conceived that the weird masturbating loner would succeed. Nothing but mirror of their life story. It hurts.
Yes I agree the story was pointless and had no meaning or message.
I can't believe you're surprised people wanted a thematically consistent story with a happy ending. The entire manga is so pointless. Even the ending is a non-ending.
Sameface isn't an artistic problem in this case it's a problem of preference.
It's clear that Sanbe Kei draws what he wants without being hampered by technical obstacles in his own style. That's what makes an artist good. You simply don't like his style.
Here's some bad art.
Even the page format is restricted by the artist's technical ability, he doesn't have complete control of his style and thus can't draw the pages the way he imagines.
>. Suddenly the bully bitch was a tsundere all along, yeah, no thanks.
Are you telling me middle-schoolers have never bullied people they liked? Damn the more you know.
Somebody didn't have a lot of friends.
It's a more realistic Watamote with a relatable protagonist. Reading it touched many people and it became a cult classic, so saying it was pointless makes no sense. There is a story and character growth: the protagonist learns to accept that the world owns him nothing, that he isn't special, and is humbled by his experiences, a lesson that I wish more entitled millenials should learn to be honest. Also, the crazy bitch he meets turns out to be just a crazy bitch with a shitload of issues, not a quirky anime girl that fixes all of his problems. The ending wasn't all that great but it was a coming of age story and hence all about the journey.
>Are you telling me middle-schoolers have never bullied people they liked? Damn the more you know.
Did you even read it or are just talking out of your ass?
Yeah I read it. The most unrealistic thing in the series is MC revealing he jerked off for a stupid reason, not some dumb bitchy teenage girl falling for the class outcast.
I also think that the whole "come to the class reunion despite the fact that absolutely nobody there likes you or has talked with you, I'm sure you'll enjoy it, gotta cherish these memories" was a bit forced but I guess that's going off topic to the actual discussion.
I hope that some day, people will look back and realize that Misato was right.
he didn't want to believe, so he purposefully disregarded the possibility until the killer literally spelled it out for him. There were several clues pointing towards him too, though he should've realized as soon as the kids noticed the abandoned bus had been cleaned out, right after mc told yashiro about it
Are you suggesting the best way to repay someone for saving your life is to go out of your way to have no life of your own until you can be together with your savior?
>He is a master of deception, literally nobody on /a/ figured it out and then started damage controlling and saying how they knew it was him all along. No you did not you bunch of liars.
are you shitting me? There were threads on /a/ by episode 3 claiming he was the murderer. You'd have to be an idiot to not see it. in fact i think the first sensei=murderer thread on /a/ started out with something like
only adult male not related to plot, overly helpful, too nice, clearly he's the murderer.
>Are you suggesting the best way to repay someone for saving your life is to go out of your way to have no life of your own until you can be together with your savior?
Are you saying it isn't?
Can someone tell me why this is so popular? Not hating or anything, I've caught up on it now, and yeah sure it's good, but why do pages like
MALhave such a huge boner for it?
Where did the hype come from? I don't understand.
I don't understand the point of this series. Nothing changed and his life is worse, but for some reason he's happy. So what?
Sanbe Kei always has strong starts and then flatlines. Same thing happened with Kamiyadori.
Check how many anime in a season are: narrower in demographic, the same as stuff airing in the current or previous season, or lower in animation quality.
I'd say that's +50% of your answer right there.
It hits all of MAL's buttons, like that shitty drama last year about the dying concert music kids.
It's a melodrama about love and death with decent visuals. That alone is all MAL needs to herald it as the best show of the decade.
>Nothing changed and his life is worse
At the start he was a wannabe mangaka and a pizza boy who punched glass windows because his mother said he couldn't handle women well. You're blind, man.
And now he's not those things because he's been in a coma for 15 years? At what point did he actually change his lookout on the world? He sets out to save a bunch of people and then his plan succeeds. What did her learn?
That's what I'm talking about, his life isn't any better but he's a happier and more fulfilled person, even though he has less reason to be.
His angst in the beginning was pretty fueled by his power too, so logically, his power cranked to 11 should make him angstier.
Is this the anime adaptation being shitty? It's obvious when his personality shifts and happens very early on.
Satoru's relationship with his mother became screwed up after Hiromi died and Yuuki was arrested. He had relationship issues in general before then (the talk about pretending), but that pushed them apart further.
Finding his mother murdered, and then reliving the life before things were screwed up was, literally, him experiencing life before the disaster and with the benefit of hindsight. Aka: he appreciated the small things his mother did more, which he didn't recognize as a kid or before she was killed. And he had a chance to fix the murders that broke them apart even more.
I think the 15 year coma would cause a bigger gap in his relationship with the mother though.
If the point was "let's make mom happy" he did a pretty shitty job forcing her to be his nurse for a quarter of her life.
Really, the entire coma threw off the entire story and was just a very bad writing decision.
Maybe? I didn't get any of that. It didn't seem like this lead to any essential change, maybe just a realization and a wish to make things better.
Besides, your major character moments shouldn't be in the first episode/chapter, they need to come toward the end or they just seem like a part of a characters basic mentality.
FMA is overrated barely decent shounenshit. It's not terrible for what it is, but neither is nor ever has been good enough to deserve the praise it gets. It's overrated by low-powerlevel faggots and formerly low-powerlevel nostalgiafaggots because it's standard western entry level that aired on television with a dub.
Clannad is typical keyshit. It's loved because it's baby's first melodramatic "good people die for tragic reasons waah!" trash. Once again, it's loved by faggots with nostalgia for their low-powerlevel days because it';s an entry-level drama and probably the first one they watched.
Monster is overrated shit.
is not about that , the girl he saved actually god fucking by one of satoru's friend.
A trap fuckboi that dind ever speak to kayo in the whole series , and wanted MC's dick for a time now.
if it was kenya we could have get it , but THAT kid end up with her is actual bullshit
Yeah I can see that but still, it just feels like reliving those events wouldn't be enough to change his personality that much, especially since much larger and more impacting events are taking place around him.
I could understand if he was actually retconning things in his memory and thus "erasing" himself in the future, but there's absolutely nothing to act as a counterargument against his cynicism from the beginning.
If anything his cynicism from the beginning is LARGELY justified.
Because he assumed that the police would profile him as exclusively targeting girls (which was true). He wanted to make the investigators think that the killer was someone that didn't know Hiromi, and thus didn't realize he was a boy and targeted him mistakenly as a girl.
You're probably putting them on a pedestal to be honest, there's loads of stories about times where the police had a chat with the serial killer while the dude was in the middle of hacking somebody to pieces. Then it still takes like 5 years to catch them.
This is a whole different level of categorical error in reasoning, though.
It basically means that the cops profiled the killer a certain way, and then excluded the real killer from that profile because they never once even considered that the criminal might recognize that their murders had a super clear pattern for profiling and deliberately target someone outside of that profile.
They believed it was more likely that the killer had mistaken a boy for a girl and murdered them than that they may have just knowingly murdered a boy, and used that absolutely idiotic conjecture to narrow their list of suspects to a list that EXCLUDED the actual killer.
Like 'cmon. C'mon!
Sensei being the killer wouldn't have been that disappointing if they didn't made it so fucking obvious.
I agree the personality change felt big. But then he had a big shock too and regret with his mother's murder. And then a big change in his life: time travel. That let him reconnect with his mother and other people in a different social environment. Friendly friends, scary murderer somewhere, little children instead of adults, no pizza boy for a living or mangaka stress.
If a lot of early Satoru's attitude is from work stress and bad human relations, I can see how this sort of works. At least, it works as much as any deep personality change can work.
It was clear that the author expected the audience to know the killer by the time Satoru found that candy stash. It's Satoru who didn't want to believe it. He even realised it during that moment, you can tell by that looking at his face. But he didn't want it to be true and accepted Sensei's excuse for the stash willingly. In the latest episode Satoru said the hints were always there and how he just kept suppressing the thoughts regarding Yashiro's actual aims.
I can see why Shotaru's personality would change, but when he gets back to being an adult I'd think he'd have even more regrets and pain to crush him.
>yfw Airi was only into Satoru because of "muh broken person" anyways
The manga was subtler about it. It was a tiny bit suprising that teach was the killer, because the reader was thoroughly convinced otherwise early on just based on Satoru's monologues.
The candy stash and talk were so obvious I thought it was a red herring.
When Satoru and Mom were following the Nakanishi target, and Sensei met them in his car? That was my decision point. It was just too much of a coincidence for him to be there. They weren't going to introduce a stranger as the criminal, it would be Sensei.
Yeah that's the problem. I think anime can barely ever properly adapt inner monologues of books or manga without ending up as a talking show with lot of stills so they usually tone that down which changes how the audience perceive things.
The first 3 or so episodes were legitimately well done.
The storyboarding and art direction were really well done the premise was set up in an interesting way.
It ultimately fails to deliver but at least it had a better run than Sword "great first episode, shit everything else" Art Online, which coincidentally has the same director.
Her brought this on yourself by fucking with space-time continuum. Relationship with Airi also makes no sense since by saving his mom he erased the situation in which they had bonded. If his butthurt is strong enough, can he Revival again and cancel this outcome? Well, he would at least want to save his mom.
>im an edgelord because spiders and hamsters
Those are all better than Code Geass, but none of them were more fun to watch with /a/ than Code Geass. If you weren't here for /a/ history, you can't really call yourself part of /a/, tourist.
You'll understand when you lurk more.
>Time-travel 15 years to stop a murder that happened 10 minutes ago
>Result is the person you're trying to save being emotionally tortured as she takes a care of a vegetable for 15 years with no lover, friends, or family.
literally the 3rd episode ppl were saying it was the teacher are you retard or this is b8
Thank you, anon, I'll cherish it always.
I like this english cover. I wasted my chances with a really fine girl I'm still in love with, in the past, and it talks to me.
I needed to tell someone, sorry for being a faggot.
Yeah, the anime makes Kayo see Sachiko as a mother figure. Actually would of made sense if she took care of Satoru for 15 years with his mother. That way his mother wouldn't of had endure so much, and she would of repayed her debt to Satoru.
Kayo was in Sachiko's care for even less time than she knew Satoru, remember. While she'd live with her grandmother for years after.
First hiding in the trailer, then being with Sachiko, then facing Kayo's mother and going with the grandmother. The time with Sachiko was, what, two days? Plus the birthday party.
No need to be dick about it! Okay, I admit that I suspected Kayo at first. I thought that she killed the others and fooled everybody that she was dead. But in reality she just hid somewhere and turned up some years later disguised as a man. Yes, yes I was wrong. Happy now?
This physically hurt to read, never post it again.
Why not? Sachiko got to miss out on being a parent, and it was because of Satoru trying to save Kayo that this happend. What is so wrong about Kayo wanting to repay Satoru by taking care of his mother? It wouldn't be weird that Kayo became something like a daughter to her. Instead she has no emotinal support for 15 years, and it's not mentioned that Kayo did anything special for Satoru even though he saved her life. A lot fucking better than what the manga did
It wasn't because he saved Kayo, it's because he saved all of the victims and it made him stick out as a threat who obviously knew more than he should. If he stopped after Kayo and Hiroomi, sensei would have left him alone since him being close to them made sense, him going after a random girl from another school who was also his next target was way too out there for him to ignore.
He'd already saved Kayo. The coma happened because he was trying to save the class bitch, after he'd already felt nakanishi and hiromi were in the clear. Kayo was already gone by then.
Yeah but this is a story, not something that actually happens in real life. It's reasonable that Airi sees the dude crying at her in the tunnel in the final chapter and immediately runs away or is visibly disgusted. But this is a story.
Honestly, it would be a bit weird; Kayo has her grandmother as the major carefigure every day, a woman who is older and also likely has troubles of her own. Sachiko would be like an aunt Kayo helps out too sometimes. All the friends fundraised for Sachiko, so it's like that.
This. Its just human memory bias. People unconsciously associate later knowledge and combine it with previous assessment and then think they shift their previous position to the later event and claim thats what they said/thought all along.
Its a very strong bias that people are not aware of and cannot fix without acute awareness of themselves. In an argument, when a person does this, the other person will notice it.
>not forming a relationship with YOUR HERO's mother after YOUR HERO falls into coma due to his HEROISM
>not in turn becoming a HERO yourself by being support for YOUR HERO's loved ones
>instead YOUR HERO's mother toils away in squalor trying to keep her vegetable ripe
Why is it so unpalatable that she's friends with the woman she actually formed a connection with when she literally was impregnated by a character she had barely spoken with.
That's what she refers to him as. I never said anything about romance.
Well the lack of any twist was disappointing.
The council person from the present time had an entirely different voice than the teacher too. It was so obviously the teacher, but I was at least hoping there would be more to it than that.
No I really don't care about Satoru's romantic life. It's just really depressing future he's returned to. If I were him I wouldn't be able to keep up the character development past a couple weeks if I introspectively looked over my life.
I hope the comacuck bait copypasta becomes real.
Well, the rehab is rough, and I don't want to imagine the money situation. But Satoru has an incredible and supportive mother who's tough as nails. And he still has his art skills, and he has good friends. Plus the mindset and experience to help break the block he had as a mangaka, I guess.
I think they both had it tough in either timeline. But he seems happier, because he fixed all his regrets.
Dick move but I think he could handle it. Saved his mom, two classmates, some other schoolgirl, and his pal Yuuki. That's a solid thing to be proud of right there.
Plus he has his mom's genes and
his psycho's teacher's sayings.
Is it just me or does the art for this show look just like pic related
Why people think this is NTR? He even tried to ask Satoru about his feelings.
Satoru was out the WHOLE time, they are living their história and own time.
The only one who did the /a/ wanted was his mom, the only actually has some sense to do this shit.
I'm pretty happy with the ending.
>The council person from the present time had an entirely different voice than the teacher too
Did you mean it sounded different? The main thing that tipped me off to the killer immediately was that I recognized the voice actor was the same as the teacher, but he was clearly trying to disguise it a little, probably to make it less blatant. I just rewatched another anime where he had a prominent role so it might have made it more obvious to me though.
Stop, oh god no, don't let this be the ending.
Christ on a bike, I'm gonna hate this ending won't I?
I think this is a new record for me, thank you guys.
The author couldn't even be arsed to give an origin story and show how MC first encountered their ability. They just have it, they've had it for as long as having it has been relevant, and it's around only for as long as it's convenient for the author's writing.
There must be a lot of time traveling cucks around then right?
My favorite theory is that Satoru is a Heroic Spirit that has a faulty contract with the world and thus lacks a noble phantasm and has memory/form discrepancies. His circumstances resemble the Archer (sweeper) class.
Well that's just shitty, he could at least make a
Deus Ex Machinacharacter and have him giving the MC power just because he likes to. This kind of no-explanation is a huge turn off for me.
It was this guy.
Looks like protoman a bit
It wasn't until the candy part that I figured it out. It was a pretty big red flag, especially considering whenever characters in the show are either about to, or doing something bad their irises light up red. And that's exactly what happened when Satarou opened the glove compartment.
Don't mind me. Just put on my red contact lens!
>Are you suggesting the best way to repay someone for saving your life is to go out of your way to have no life of your own until you can be together with your savior?
Why not? They spent their life saving money for his medical bills. Kenya spent his life becoming a lawyer/detective specifically to help Satoru and even wrote about everything for him to read when he woke up. But Kayo couldn't keep her legs closed? Bitch. In hindsight, Kenya was his only real friend.
Is this one of those things where you're in love with the guy but he loves someone else so you take that person and cum inside of them?
No, it's definitely NTR. The whole build up of Satoru and Kayo's relationship only for her to get with the girly boy that did nothing for her is just awful. It still baffles me when people say Satoru didn't love Kayo when the manga/anime spends a good chunk of the story to show that he really does.
Pretty much 3/4 of manga is just Kayo and Satoru put into romantic situations. It's even more fucked up when you realize Hiromi is that kid that is always saying Satoru has guts for puting the moves on Kayo. Fucking NTR
He didn't save any childhood friends, they were childhood NPCs until he returned to the past and got to know them. Not that it matters now, since they've all moved on anyways.