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I think swagger's a confidence. It's a confidence of you knowing that you work hard for your success. A lot of times, you can't develop swagger if you haven't worked hard to succeed.
Was it ever in the CoR? I'm pretty sure it's one of the few things the old pastebin has that the CoR/guide doesn't. If it's not in the CoR someone can just re-upload it to mega and submit it.
My example was a bad example since 大 is pretty obvious... I just got lazy I guess and I find things work out as I learn more words and realize which kanji is represent what.
No, that's what happens when people do RTK1/3 and then don't pay attention to readings each kanji has at all when learning vocab. Not sure how you'd mix the readings up like that.
I'm pretty trigger happy when it comes to failing cards that I get slightly wrong or take too long, so it's not as bad as it looks. There's nothing less fun than sitting there for ages trying to remember a card.
>i need to get burnout from a billion reviews every day because fuck you
This is why I almost exclusively read VNs for vocab. For me, the grammar early on has been the only stressful and dull experience. If I woke up to a 500+ review count, I'd kill myself.
Or delete the deck.
Seems like writing down kanjis has fucked with my brain, when I look down on my piece of paper to right some kanji-tachi, sometimes i just get an urge to shake my head/eyes slightly. Don't know how to properly explain it, has anyone here experienced anything similar?
If it takes me a while to remember I use hard, and if I fail it later then that's how it is. A few more seconds isn't "ages", even though it can pile up. But I get distracted often, so I think the time spent seems longer than it actually is.
For "slightly wrong", I sometimes just fail it too, but it depends on how important the nuance is, and also whether I forget the actual meaning or just the translation.
I'm sure your way works fine, but I prefer taking longer to remember some words since I think it can help process them better.
Yes... like he has a nice pen and I wish I had that pen.
Then I looked up the word on wwwjdic and the example sentence makes me believe my first sentence was backwards.
>(1) あなたがとても羨ましい。 I envy you so much
In that sentence the subject is implied. You could put a 私は in front and have essentially the same meaning. If you say 私はペンが羨ましいです then you are saying I am envious of the pen.
Burnout referring to your eyes, not your brain. Proper word for it is eye strain? I guess it could be your brain/mind also being tired, making it hard for your eyes to focus?
Either way, fucking take a break cuz some part of you is tired man.
>visiting /djt/ for a while now
>started watching JAV that feature 中出し
>utterly obsessed with it now
I have to pass n1 this year and get to glorious nippon to fulfill my ultimate purpose. will i make it?
also JAV is pretty bad for learning, there's hardly any dialogue at all.
>tfw you're not good enough at this yet to talk about anal
Japanese is literally impossible. You will die before you run out of words.
Can anon write the name of the song selected in pink? I need to tag the mp3 I just recorded.
What's a good "secondary" vocabulary study method to use alongside Anki? thing about Anki is I don't like messing with custom study and possibly screwing up the retention system it has going on, so I tend to stop when it tells me to. What's another top recommended method to gain vocabulary? I really need to learn more words so I'm not rushing to the dictionary nonstop when translating.
I can't learn Japanese.
So you've been mining for 1 month. The point I was going to drive (hence the question) was that once you pass 10k cards the mining really drops off quite significantly unless you intentionally seek challenging material (which is arguable in terms of relevance in terms of foreign language learning, i.e. at some point you'll be learning words that natives themselves don't know which I personally consider to be a paradigm shift from foreign language learning to... something else). In that sense, there's no need for despair. Rather than thinking, "I mined 300 words today FML", think "I will inevitably mine 10,000 words"
NHK easy news
Write all the words you're unfamiliar on a seperate reference sheet and read the article a few times referring to that.
Also really helps to write your definitions in Japanese; eventually we're trying to approach Japanese as a language, not a Japanese -> English tool
Side note, does anyone have a bible for grammar? Or a ultimate spell checker that explains why the grammar's wrong?
Nips sperging on the use of 中 in 発売中.
I'm sure everyone agrees that improper stroke order will make your writing look autistic as fuck. The argument is generally over whether writing is even worth learning in the first place.
>I'm sure everyone agrees that improper stroke order will make your writing look autistic as fuck. The argument is generally over whether writing is even worth learning in the first place.
Oh, right. Well, personally, I took the time to learn it and found it worthwhile, but I wouldn't say it's mandatory.
You translated things in your head when you started, too, you dumb autist. It's an inevitability when you're taking what you know about human communication from your native language and applying it to the new one. This same skill is why we don't take 18+ years to reach an adult's level of understanding of a new tongue, like a native child with no such preexisting knowledge does.
How do you make the transition from translating in your head to cutting out the middle man? By getting used to the new language enough that you don't need to consciously think about sentence organization and what it means. Do you do this in anki or by reading about linguistics? No, that's retarded. The only way to surpass the point where you need your own language as a middle man is to consume the new language in its native environment.
>4 episodes left
>getting all dramatic
Oh shit, here comes the climax of 200 episodes
He's being unnecessarily insulting (likely due to being an autist), but he's right this time. And at least he's talking about Japanese.
You already have a system for describing the concepts of the world -- your native language. Why would you abandon that? You'd be reduced to learning like a baby does.
Because nothing short of lots of reading and listening will get you over the "translating in your head" hill. That's mostly a symptom of not having an intuitive grasp on grammar, which is built via exposure to native material.
I'll admit that I just saw the typical "translating" posts and made assumptions about what preceded it.
Yeah, in this case, he just needs to do anki. He should still suck it up and read, too. I know that it's a chore, but if learning Japanese were always easy and fun and only took a week to learn, everybody on /a/ would know it.
I haven't spent any time trying to learn Korean, but as I understand it its grammar is very similar to Japanese and it has a much simpler writing system which, once you know it, you can read any Korean sentence(key word: read, nothing about understanding).
>that one guy who thinks japanese and chinese are on the same difficulty range for learning
>'if you know japanese learning chinese will be a lot easier!'
>he actually believes this
Chinese is generally considered easier than Japanese for native English speakers.
If you know Japanese, you're 75% done with the biggest hurdle to learning Chinese.
>been learning the radicals for over 3 months on anki
>feel significantly less motivated to keep doing the radical reps every day now
Is this really going to help me understand Kanji a little easier/faster? I feel like I fell into a ruse here.
The most efficient course to become fluent in Japanese with about 1 year per step:
1. University classes (Japanese 101/102)
3. Rosetta Stone (good for immersion!)
4. Memorize radicals
5. Do RTK
7. Read Tae Kim and start core10k after deleting the first 6000 cards (which you should know after completing WaniKani)
8. Congratulations! You are fluent in Japanese.
Well, I'm a slow learner, unlike you.
I like to spend time learning what each radical means, what alternate writings they have, the stroke order (as i've heard that learning the strokes of radicals make writing kanji a lot easier and less time consuming).. I just assumed 3 months is an appropriate amount of time for learning about radicals, but I still feel obligated enough to keep doing the reps anyway to keep my perfect day record.
Should I start skipping days now that I've already covered it?
If you expect anyone with half a brain to find that remotely convincing, 4chan of all places isn't a valid context to promote such an appeal. You don't buy it so why should we? Time clearly isn't an issue for those able to read this discussion.
Help a nigger out. The 2nd last sentence is giving me trouble.
"The Showa Era retro Udon/Soba Vending machine providing company "船舶食料商"near Akida Port, which even appeared on NHK's Document 72 Hours, is いっぱい closing this month. The vending machine is being removed.
How does いっぱい fit into this?
Before dropping them in Anki, make sure you can write them without looking them up, and to make sure you don't forget them you can give them little names as mnemonics. For example I call the 土 radical "jesus cross". It helps remember it and makes it much easier to write kanji-tachi! Try it out and let me know how it goes!! With this method I have been able to learn 500 kanjis in only 16 months after I was done with the radicals.
>sailor moon ends with a phallic feather as the last picture
Now back to playing イブニクル
This ends the Sailor Moon blog, thank you for reading!
>He's being unnecessarily insulting
This isn't Tumblr, fuck off. That you found it insulting is fucking irrelevant. The point is that anon was fucking right and the idiot he responded to should think twice about shitposting next time.
/a/ isn't a goddamn childcare centre and when people say stupid shit, it will be taken to task without reservation. Your feelings are irrelevant. Get over yourself.
I appreciate your help DJT.
"The store was established in the 33rd year of the Showa era, by the mother of the current president 佐原孝夫 (age 73), 千代さん (dead for 53 years). The store delivered cfood, clothing, daily use goods to incoming ships.
Fix my shit please.
The store moved to its current location 46 years into its operation, and placed the vending machine infront of the store, the (vending machine) became popular. Vending machines of the same model having been mass produced for 55 years have stopped production. Secondhand spare parts have been searched for 4 times thusfar.
Studying grammar is so much harder than just doing anki for like half an hour and calling it a day. Fuck my life. Morale is low.
I'm up to chapter 3 and in カラーの森 right now. Haven't gotten the last party member yet but for now ラミアス is my favorite. There hasn't been much choice in skills so far since I've usually had enough points to get the strongest ones without much trouble. I'm expecting the skills to get a bit more interesting as I get further in the game
It's a pretty good game so far. Can't read most kanji as usual but texthooking into a browser window is great
>ラミアス is my favorite
She's definitely great. I really like her in fights, I buffed her defence to ridiculously high with items and skills so she takes like no damage and used her to tank everything, it was great. この盾で守ってみせる！ I grew to really hate AoE enemies because of them just killing everyone else, lol. Being a lolicon I obviously preferred グリグラ and リッシュ in bed, though.
Speaking of that, make sure to empty your love gauge ASAP every time it fills. Otherwise you'll reach the end of the game with a bunch of scenes still unseen and have to farm to get them.
If you want to read about radicals one by one, read it from the jp wiki, like this link https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B9%BF%E9%83%A8
Also you should research the most common radicals and concentrate on that first. Reading 214 articles and reading <100 articles takes a completely different amount of time.
I'd give it about a 2.9 or so. It's fairly easy, might contain some new fantasy vocab if you haven't read something set in a fantasy world before though.
I haven't used any of the stat increasing items yet since the game hasn't been exactly that difficult so far. Do you know if the items that tell you to sell them have any use later on? I'm currently holding on to atleast one copy of each different one I find
As for the love gauge, it just filled up and I don't think I can teleport back to the city I'm near to atleast yet so I didn't bother going back. I will teleport out before the next time they make me go fight more monsters
I'm bad at figuring out how hard something is since I don't really have trouble with anything but kanji readings but, it has some fantasy vocab and there was some vocab related to politics earlier.
Harder than moege with a school setting, easier than Baldr Sky
>top recommended method to gain vocabulary
Read more. The more you read, the less you will need to consult dictionary but it will still happen every now and then.
I'd say a secondary method to gain vocab is by studying kanji one by one. For example, if you never see a word before, for example 公海 but if you know the meaning of 公 and 海, you don't have to check dictionary to get the approximate meaning. Contexts of what you're reading will also help you with understanding.
I never google what "mundane" means, or "castigate", or even the definition difference between "ravine, gorge, and canyon" but I get the approximate meaning.
Though you to remember that there are many exceptions in japanese. 当て字 words probably are not parseable from their 熟語.
I'm the other way around. I picked up grammar really easily compared to vocab/anki. I constantly lose motivation to do anki and just talk to people or read things. I can read most things now, but my vocabulary is shit so I am really dependent on a dictionary
>tfw you saw a black man talking really good Japanese to his asian wife at a Japanese super market today
If he can learn nihongo then so can we.
Yeah same way here. I don't know why but I actually enjoy learning new grammar but for some reason I have a lot of trouble forcing myself to cram vocab like a lot of people in these threads do. I need to get in gear if I ever actually want to be any good at japanese
If you haven't found the game difficult so far, I assume you're skipping the kaijuu fights? I recommend trying them, if you leave them too late they'll just be a breeze and boring. If you get them at the right level where they're a challenge but just doable, it's really really fun, and it forces you to actually think about skill/stat/item distributions instead of breezing through everything, which in turn makes the entire game more fun.
The "sell me" items have no use except being sold as far as I know. Same goes for items with strictly worse stats than ones you own.
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>You're going to retain none of what you read in Tae Kim
You could say the same about vocabulary, which is why so many people opt for flash cards and/or a spaced repetition system.
Reviewing what you've studied is just as important as the study itself.
So when starting out with Anki and dealing with Kanji, am I supposed to put focus on just learning associating a meaning to a Kanji, or should I also be memorizing the onyomi/kunyomi of all of them ? I gotta say, I'm having a fairly easy time just knowing what a Kanji or two Kanji actually mean, but the actual pronunciation I fuck up 80% of the time and mix them up with other ones, kinda slowing me down a lot. Like if I saw "十日" while reading I'd know exactly what it says, but fucked if I'd know how to actually pronounce it. I have no interest in verbally speaking this btw, just want to be able to read my weeb games and manga
My English language teacher forced us to read at least 30 pages in English daily in high school (which I never really followed but whatever) so now I'm forcing myself to go through a minimum of 30 pages of Japanese per day.
>Like if I saw "十日" while reading I'd know exactly what it says, but fucked if I'd know how to actually pronounce it.
Okay, fair enough.
But what if you were watching your chinese cartoons and you heard some say とおか?
You'd have no idea what they're talking about.
>But what if you were watching your chinese cartoons
That's just it, I do not watch Anime at all. Yeah...I know, what am I doing here, right?
I'm only interested in foreign games and manga. That's why I stated at the end that I don't have an interest in speaking it since it makes no difference if I can comprehend it audibly. Reading is my only interest. Should that ever change obviously I'd have to be able to know pronunciations, if not I'd have no idea what was said out loud, like you stated.
Besides, while it makes no difference since it's not my thing, I'm sure pretty much every Japanese media has subtitles for deaf folk, I would assume.
Personally I think it's a bad idea to modulate learning like that.
Why not just learn all the skills you eventually want to acquire at the same time? That way they grow together and interconnectedly instead of as separate pieces that you stitch together.
For pronunciation it's more than enough for you to just make notice of what part of the pronunciation is coming from which kanji, and that's it. No need to think any deeper about it and it doesn't take up that much more effort but it'll be well worth it in the long run.
Langauge is verbal in nature and the brain associates sounds with concepts, meaning that if you keep a barrier between the concept and the sound when learning Japanese, it is only going to be harder for your brain to "feel" the language, as so many anons like to shit post about.
Is going to be extremely limited if you do not form a proper inner monologue. Reading this post right now your brain is "reading" this and your vocal chords and "speaking" regions of your brain are activating. Humans aren't computers and we need some medium for the concepts to be transported, which is the spoken/verbal aspect of the language. Even Braille lanugages and sign language use this fundamental system of assigning a set of symbolic versions of phonetics to bumps and movements for the latter.
Without learning the Japanese version of what you are doing with English right now, your Japanese will forever be limited by the speed at which you can translate memorised chunks of Japanese you associate as units, into English words, then English concepts, then back into a Japanese structural framework.
For a computer analogy it is sort of like trying to play video games and rendering pixels without any onboard VRAM and having to use system RAM. It is stuttering, laggy mess because it is simply too slow and too far away from the processing unit. By introducing all of those extra steps when parsing Japanese, as I previously mentioned, you are forcing your brain in a way similar to the video card with no onboard VRAM: you aren't going to be able to keep up and the "rendering" speed is going to be forever limited no matter how strong your "processing unit", or amount of Japanese concept units -let's not call them words, words include a verbal aspect- you have memorised English.
TL;DR: it seems like an extremely elaborate means of ascribing English keywords to Japanese words and expecting to be able to reach an acceptable adult reading level. It won't
As someone who also only cares about VNs, you should learn pronunciations. There are a lot of times words will be written in hiragana, such as when a child is speaking (especially relevant if you like lolige), for effect, or simply out of arbitrary artistic choice. Furthermore there are sometimes scenes in VNs without subtitles, such as OPs or climactic narration, and not being able to understand these can ruin the entire game for you.
Are you just starting? You know 十日 because 十 is a simple 指事文字 and 日 is also a simple 象形文字.
While it's true that most of japanese kanji are 形声文字 and you might be able to get away with what you're doing right now (debatably), but when you encountered 転注文字 you're going to get screwed. A simple 転注文字 is 楽 which can mean "music", "enjoy", and "comfy", all three pronounced differently.
I guess what confuses the shit out of me is that I know that 一 means "one" and 日 means "day" and if I see 一日 I know it's talking about one day or first day of the month. Alright, easy, no problem.
I could also easily memorize that "one" is pronounced "いち" and that "day" is pronounced ”ひ” So I would have assumed that "first day" would be "いちひ” but no, it's pronounced "ついたち"
Like how the fuck did we go from ichi and hi being joined to make tsuitachi. It just adds so much shit to memorize when I already know all their meanings and could decipher them in text with ease.
That's honestly the best point you could bring up, if they happen to use them in Hiragana and I only know the Kanji, I'd be fucked. This would be rare occurrences, but it can happen I agree. This is just so slow learning double vocabulary for every Kanji instead of just knowing the meaning.
>I guess what confuses the shit out of me is that I know that 一 means "one" and 日 means "day"
That's where you are mistaken.
一 is いち and 日 is ひ・か・にち.
Language evolves phonetically, not conceptually.
So how do I do this effectively then. I reset the Anki deck fresh. I need to memorize the Kanji by appearance, and also how it's said in Hiragana? is there an effective way to remember them / any tick or pattern or anything with translating Kanji to Hiragana or is it just random memorization ?
It goes both ways. Just as you can't always predict the pronunciation, you can't always predict the meaning of the words from their kanji.
So if oddball pronunciations throw you off, then you'll be thrown off by the choice of kanji in a lot of words too later on.
The point is, just cutting out pronunciation and learning only meanings (vocabulary meaning) isn't going to save you as much time as you think. Might as well learn pronunciation too.
and if your plan was actually just to learn "kanji meanings" then sure that would save you a ton of time, but you also won't be able to read shit.
Just don't. When you use these terms to describe yourself it just goes to show that you're a weakling. You should say that you're bad around crowds or don't like going to places with a lot of people or even just joke about it but you leave a really bad impression when you tell people about your mental disorders.
If I'm not wrong, the 障害 part means 'disorder'.
Alright, I guess I'll just try my best to learn it all then. I guess a part of me was just very resistant to having to learn two ways to say every single word; like ときどき and 時々. So I have to learn it in both Hiragana and by Kanji appearance. I just hope this doesn't slow me down immensely, I really need to up my vocabulary. I have grammar down really well but my vocabulary is abysmal.
>lthough there are general rules for when to use on'yomi and when to use kun'yomi, the language is littered with exceptions, and it is not always possible for even a native speaker to know how to read a character without prior knowledge (this is especially true for names, both of people and places); further, a given character may have multiple kun'yomi or on'yomi. When reading Japanese, one primarily recognizes words (multiple characters and okurigana) and their readings, rather than individual characters, and only guess readings of characters when trying to "sound out" an unrecognized word.
>I just hope this doesn't slow me down immensely
What you are currently doing is slowing you down immensely, to the point that it is impossible to achieve reading comprehension with your method.
Not that guy, but is there any way to incorporate Kanjidamage into my Anki core2k/6k learning somehow? The thing I like about the core deck is obvious, it's the Kanji I should be focusing on, but I memorize them just based off their appearance with no real logic to it other than blatant memorization. With Kanjidamage I learn them based off radicals and those goofy mnemonics that they use, they REALLY help me retain Kanji.
The wiki takes an overly pessimistic stance.
>without prior knowledge
Whoever wrote it really underestimates this. Native speakers and to some extent people who have lived in Japan for some time will no doubt have subconsciously recorded readings for names and locations in their brains. Together with their knowledge of kanji and radicals, it isn't that unbelievable that a native would be able to guess how to read a character.
Unless they've never seen the kanji in their life of course. But that would be extremely rare.
What do you mean only the meaning and reading? sorry it's like 5am and I'm ded. You have to memorize the Kanji itself just based on looks, don't you? that's what KD helps me with since it trivializes that with radicals.
>not just using a jisho iframe for your back template
Personally I just memorize their appearance based off of pronunciation.
I know that doesn't sound like it works, but it does for me, really well.
For example say I see something like 制, I'll just look at it and say せい over and over for a while until the character 制 actually starts to look like a せい to me.
Then the next time I see it "せい" just pops into my head like magic. I guess everyone's different though, but this works much better for me than other mnemonics or radicals and stuff.
>When I look at 波打ち際 I remember that it means "water's edge"
Not confusing me, I do get what you mean, but how exactly do you remember that "波打ち際" specifically means what it means? just based on how it looks visually? or something else? any system in place you use or it's just visual memorization?
It's appreciated, thanks
I guess I could try it that way and see how it goes, just trying to make the Kanji task as easy as possible since I do have to learn so many, may as well do it as efficiently as possible
I can already recognise all the kanji in that so when I see 波 and that it's connected in a 4 word phrase I know that the word is 波打ち際 which I already know means "water's edge".
It's way more intuitive in this case because the words actually have meaning, but in other cases like ateji like 藻掻く usually I follow an order of:
1. Establish the connection that 藻掻くis read as もがく
2. Recall that もがく means 'struggle, writh'
Since the kanji itself do not give any hint to what the word as a whole means.
Not him, but once you know the kanji meanings better remembering words will be easier. So for 波打ち際、
>波 = waves
>打ち = runs up to, hits
>際 = edge, side
If you know these meanings, you can infer an overall meaning of "edge where it hits the waves" = edge of the water. And you can pick up kanji meanings simply through seeing them in different vocabulary words with similar meanings.
>I guess I could try it that way and see how it goes
Well then just to elaborate a bit, you don't have to think about any of the other pronunciations you've encountered for the word. When I'm trying to get it engrained into my memory I just focus on that one pronunciation for the current word and that's it.
Your subconscious still knows what word it's a part of and it just works. For me at least. It gave me a huge increase in retention rate, so I'd say if you don't notice it working right away then it's probably just not your style and you could look for a method that works better for you.
A few days ago I posted a modified verb conjugation deck that I was using
and decided to make it a little more flexible and add some of the field data which was left out of the posted version. This is more of a proof of concept, if anything. The data set I am working with contains around 1000 dictionary form verbs, taken from the Core10k deck mostly, but that is still a WIP, not fit for generic usage.
A mega link, for archival purposes. The anon who looked at the other one may find this version a lot more practical.
Pic related, last time I didn't provide one.
Daily reminder that this is the best Kanji deck:
>overloads you with actual useful information
>2 different cards(recall(keyword) recognition(kanji))
>Is this useful?
It is for myself. It may be for others. Maybe not, who knows?
>It seems pretty inefficient to spend time in Anki to learn such a comparatively small set of conjugation rules.
Isn't that self refuting?
Anyway, is time really that much of an issue if we have enough of it to idle away on 4chan?
>Isn't that self refuting?
Possibly. I mean that it seems backwards to study hundreds of individual words when the general rule is readily available. This looks more like a vocab deck. I guess it's wrong to imply that it's not useful, but I'd say its use streches beyond conjugation practice. Nevermind, actually.
>Anyway, is time really that much of an issue if we have enough of it to idle away on 4chan?
You can't spend enough time on 4chan.
>This looks more like a vocab deck
It's both, really. Though if you wanted to use it purely for conjugation drills you could, it would just mean rearranging the fields and not displaying others. I like my study material to be flexible in case I want to use it for a different purpose latter on.
You'll probably want to alter the card template to suit your style, but it should be hard. If you have any problems, feel free to post them. Chances are I could have fucked something up on the final import without noticing.
You've been at it for ages and still have trouble with verb conjugations?
Are カンギ and オオクワ plant names or something? Tried googling them and the closest results were bugs of some sort, but according to the text they should be plants, unless I'm misunderstanding something.
How long did it take you guys to reach the saturation point where you can learn Japanese from consuming media? When I watch anime or listen to podcasts I still can only hear words rather than sentences, I've been learning for like 3 months
When you decide to start reading.
You don't have to go over some kind of threshold to be able to learn from consuming media.
A basic understanding of grammar (from Tae Kim's guide or elsewhere) is all you need and you can learn the rest from consuming media.
I would say it's really bad for reading by itself, you just can't be fucked to sit and read a wall of text in that state.
But there's a way to actually feel it.
Get some anime songs you like, google lyrics for them (in Japanese, of course) and read that shit as the song goes. Works like magic with 大麻, feels like kanji pop into your head.
Your retention will plummet to shit the next day after you use it, though.
Just listen to more podcasts and anime until you understand it.
If you just do that for hours every day, you'll be able to understand sooner or later.
Obviously without any subs.
>just realized I forgot to do anki yesterday
I used Core 2k/6k for about a month. Not only was it a massive waste of time, but it also was the worst part of my day all month. I read VNs on the side all that time, and I learned more from that than the 1800-ish vocab from Anki while also having fun. The only thing I don't regret studying using Anki is radicals.
TL;DR: Never ever using Anki for vocab again.
>tfw made two Japanese friends from playing Puyo Puyo Tetris online today and exchanged messages with them where I apologized profusely for my 下手な日本語
I'm only a couple of months in and it's already starting to culminate into something. This is fun!
I always do anki at work, so the weekend is dangerous for me.
I'd rather kill myself than doing this shitty deck again from the start.
Yeah, I get what you mean. I do most of my reps when commuting to and from work and when I'm on the shitter. There've been too many occasions where I've had to do my reps at two or three in the morning.
Does anyone know of an automatic way to reposition vocab cards based on my known kanji?
Or if not, how to reposition my entire vocab deck based on the order of my Kanji deck?, i.e. so that the related words would appear simultaneously.
I've been reading the monogatari series recently and I find that I still need to look up at least 1 word per every 2 pages or so, and I consider myself extremely high level. Then again I look up every word I'm not 100% sure about the reading of and there's a lot of ones that are read differently from what you'd expect from the onyomi.
Why Japanese people?
Not him but my exposure to Japanese culture is entirely through a narrow veil of anime games and TV shows. Therefore, my exposure to boku is 99.9% guys and 0.1% girls. As a result whenever a girl uses boku I just think "what the fuck, she sounds like a dude, why is she doing that".
Woah, LNs are really easy. I was afraid of trying to read one, because I still struggle with VNs that are heavy on narration, and I figured books would be even heavier on narration than that. But I picked up ZnT, which I've wanted to read for a while. It is indeed heavy on narration, but the narration is so simple. Rather than a voice of god with all kinds of flowery descriptive and abstract language, it feels more in the voice of some guy telling you what happened to him the other day.
It's also really comfortable to read when formatted for vertical reading in Firefox with rikaisama and anki autoimport. Even easier to mine words than with VNs.
Something to keep in mind if you've been too intimidated to read raw text like I was.
Manchildren that finished high school with all its required reading, read a ton of LNs and manga on top of that and are most likely studying in an university, yeah.
You'll need to put some work in to catch up to these manchildren.
Paying for WK is definitely a joke, as is doing it together with/after RTK.
Pirate the anki deck for it if you really want it but stop doing RTK. They're the same kinds of placebo so chose only one.
This is why 2ch is hard. Sometimes people, with no editor oversight, just shit out bullshit for whatever reason and there's no way to tell.
Or maybe because most of their slang is puns, ridiculous abbreviations and typos that caught on and became memes.
Just like here
I use the txt file LN collection and convert them to html with vertical orientation using the JNovelFormatter. Probably not the only way, but gave me the most comfortable to read format I could find.
The most unexpected result of learning a second language is that whenever I watch videos or read something in my first language I always instinctively frame it in a context of improving my language. For example I'm watching this 2 hour long discussion video and I'm definitely thinking of it like "by listening to this guy speak, I will absorb his language and grow stronger".
Morphman is exactly what can do this.
I've never had any success using it but you will probably be able to set it up better than when I tried.
>I will absorb his language and grow stronger
>I didn't know what I wanted when I started RTK
That's why you read the introduction to the first book which explains exactly what it is for. Natural selection is far too selective these days.
We all have to make sacrifices for jihad.
Speaking of which, how do I stop Rikai from doing shit like this? Really fucks up realtime import sometimes.
Anyone got a good anki core 2k/6k/10k deck? One with just the vocab word in kanji and then the reading and meaning? I've tried starting my own but it's just too much work not having at least some base so I can just start doing reps right now.
>spend 5 days downloading VN at speed of 10kb/s
>don't enjoy it at all
Honestly this is making me consider giving up Japanese. There is just such a high number of VNs I don't like and I started learning for VNs so what's the point. By giving up I mean I've been focusing 5 hours a day reading and 20-40 new cards in anki for a long time, all to improve Japanese, maybe it' stime to dial that down and just rely on wiping out vocab hell over a long period of time. No more intensive studying. I mean seriously, what the fuck. Too many bad VNs.
That's why havinga collection of vns in the CoR, on mega, would be ideal. You may have spent only half an hour downloading instead of days so even if you didn't like it, it would be no real loss.
If the COR were to have a catalogue wide enough to contain the VN I read, obscure as it is, then it would be several terabytes large and would be shot the fuck down, probably unable to be re-uploaded speedily too.
Another one bites the dust.
When I try to learn new words should I focus on just recognizing what the characters mean and learn the pronunciations later, or would it just be a waste of time to go back and do it later?
In case it wasn't obvious from my post I can read things and watch anime pretty easily, so it's not like I failed to learn Japanese.
Of course not.
>Google doc page gets flagged by copyright holders
>Google informs mega.co.nz of all the illegally hosted material and deletes page
>mega.co.nz deletes all the illegal files
And now you've got to upload all the files again and replace all the links. It'd be a mess. Do not forget that the mega terms of services explicitly disallows uploading of copyrighted material.
Just finished going through Genki 1 in my university course. Know the grammar, vocabulary, and Kanji from this book pretty well. In terms of "getting ahead" or accelerating my learning, should I be tackling like KanjiDamage in Anki to learn more kanji, or should I be learning more vocabulary, both, or even neither?
Are you struggling with memorizing and identifying kanji and is it getting in your way when learning vocab? Do KD.
Are kanji a piece of cake? Carry on with vocab.
Is it a bit of both? Do both alongside each other.
My logic is thus. Neither google nor Mega support illegally hosted copyright material. Therefore, the only reason they're still there is because no one has pointed it out to them and had a real person recognize it. Thus, it's only a matter of time until it's deleted. Not to mention it was hardly a two weeks or so ago that mega.co.nz updated their TOS to be specifically hard on copyrighted material. The larger it gets, the harder it will fall. I mean, you've got to realize that none of the CoR is hosted on anyone here's own server. The CoR spreadsheet on nocazalal is directly sourced from google and all the DDLs are hosted on mega. Both of these entities can easily delete the material and both have no reason not too. It's a ticking time bomb, that only has a fuse at all because Japan is far away.
I'm not even confident that if a single person sent a ton of emails to Japanese media companies / mega / vn devs that the CoR would survive. If I recall, the game spreadsheet had games from major companies like Leaf and Visual Arts.
However, it is undeniable that the CoR has existed for over a year without major action being taken against it (though google has deleted the spreadsheet if I recall, and mega links periodically die). For that reason, I do not claim that my above reasoning is universally true and everyone who disagrees is wrong. I, personally, am convinced by the reasoning above that the CoR (especially if the game page continues to grow) will be fully deleted by mega at some point in the future. If you disagree that's fine. The fact it hasn't been deleted yet is compelling evidence that it won't be deleted, absolutely.