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The great debate.
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That's a weird looking image of Shiki.
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who the fuck is that guy on the right?
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whoever strikes first

given Saitama is several times faster, I guess Saitama
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>>138546857
There's no debate, mememan wins without even trying.
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>>138546909
Just a guy who likes to rape.
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>>138546909
Here's your (you)
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>>138546989
Saitama can get pretty cocky or nonchalant about his adversaries though, I think Shiki has a good chance if Saitama isn't aware of his ability.
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>>138546989
Shiki can kill motherfucking LIGHTNING before it strikes him
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>>138546909
just searched,apparently he's shiki toono from the fatefag series
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>>138546857
>The great debate.
On reddit, maybe.
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>>138547230
I love nasuverse
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>>138546909
>>138547230
neo /a/ everyone
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>>138547408
your taste is suspect
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>>138546857
Even if shiki can cut anything how this slow ass would even touch saitama?
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>>138547874
>can land 18 strikes in an instant
>servant level speed and agility
>slow
also >>138547199
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>>138547874
He could probably take him by surprise, in the same vein that he did to Arcueid. Even if Saitama saw it coming, which he probably would, I doubt he'd go hostile on Shiki unless he knew about his power.
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Great masturbate
I want to cum onto Saitama's head and rub it into his skin. Then his head will smell like my dick.
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It really isn't, Shiki would beat reddit man fairly easily.
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>>138547230
>>138546909
Why is One punch man's fanbase so cancerous?
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>>138548002
The baldy has better feats !

>>138548075
It's true that saitama is a dumbass, he could be killed easily if he tries to do the same that he did with sonic's blade.
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As far as I remember, Saitama never kills humans, so he would probably go easy on Shiki. In that case, Shiki would probably win, since he only has to cut him once
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>>138547199
>>138548002
>>138548075
>>138548107
>>138548535
>implying that Shiki can see Saitama's Line of Death
>Implying Saitama even has Lines of Death
He's like a True Ancestor constatnl;y under the effect of a Full Moon.
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>>138548706
Everything has lines of death, this has been discussed to death.
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Tornado was unable to use most of her psychic powers against Saitama in the webcomic. This implies that Saitama has an invisible passive defensive mechanism against supernatural/magical powers. Saitama probably doesn't have any lines of death.
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>>138548743
>Everything has lines of death
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>>138548887
yes
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>>138548887
Everything.
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>>138549030
>>138549056
How can something without any concept of death at all have lines of death?
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But can Saitama defeat Squirrel Girl?
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>>138546857
Saitama would win.
Even Nanaya mode could not catch him.

>>138546909
bait

>>138548887
Arcuid kinda does not.
Under a full moon she does not have them if she is at full power.
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>>138549209

Because >EVERYTHING
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>>138549265
It depends on who winning would be funnier.
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>>138549209
Shitty writting, that's how.
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>>138549209
By reading the source material.
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>>138549299
>>138549328
>>138549351
Unless you can give me a better reason than that, I'm going to have to assume you're full of shit.
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Ryougi is more silly OP than tohno, since he can't cut things like concepts like she can
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>>138546909
>>138547230
I still refuse to believe.
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>>138549426
He can 'kill' their immortality.
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Saitama wouldn't take him seriously but Shiki probably wouldn't be able to see any lines/dots considering the only damage Saitama has ever taken basically amounts to getting dusty
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>>138546909
>>138547230
Holy shit
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>>138549474
I doubt that.
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>>138549436
Ryougi has never done anything. Ever. Tohno beat a fucking DAA when he was near death. He's way faster and stronger than her as well, due to his Nanaya body. Ryougi Shiki has never fought anything even close to the shit Tohno has fought.
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>>138548743
Except for ORT, and Arcueid under a full moon, and countless other things
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>>138546857
Even without the "le ebin memegag character", he should blitz him easily
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>>138549496
He will see them, the fact that Saitama was a normal human before just makes it easier.
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>>138548002
That only applies against certain kind of enemies, I doubt Saitama'd trigger Shiki's secret powers apart from his gland.
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>>138549474
Tohno/Nanaya probably can't. Ryougi is the one that likes to kill concepts and shit like this. And I doubt even she can 'kill immortality'.
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>>138548743
but thats wrong you fucking pleb.
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>>138549328
people who use this argument are the worst. they contribute nothing and are usually wrong.
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>>138547230
why does anyone like that gay anime ? looks like /a/ has become too liberal to enjoy mens anime's

keep being doormats
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>>138549588
to be perfectly fair thats not a strong argument. that could just be due to chance. just cus ryougi never encountered any heavy hitters does not mean she cant take them.
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Shiki isn't even the best person who can "cut" related to this board.

Why him? Type-Moon powerlevels are smalltime.
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>>138550284
Araya kicked her ass before she went「 」.
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>>138550747
yeah thats before
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>>138549281
This.
Either that, or he just couldn't see them.

OPM would at the very least, have lines of death so thin that he wouldn't be able to see them.

He was barely able to see the one line on Arcuid in that one ending, and that was with here fairly below full power because he killed the earth earlier.
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>>138549461

Now you know how I feel whenever I look at the catalog.
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>>138546857
Shiki if Saitama wasn't aware of his power, Saitama if he was aware
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>>138550733

type-moon powerlevels are rock-paper-scissors like pokemon
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>>138548157
Anyone would ask who the fuck is the guy in right
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>>138551495
No, only newfags like you
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>>138551539
OP's a pretty shitty pic of Shiki, to be honest.
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>>138550986
>He was barely able to see the one line on Arcuid in that one ending, and that was with here fairly below full power because he killed the earth earlier.
Those are two separate scenes. He manage to see single line in the park when she pinned him down. After that they fight at school grounds, then Shiki killed part of Gaia which allowed him to see lines on her
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>>138550733
Because Shiki fags attached themselves to /a/ like a cancer
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What's going on in this thr-
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>>138547230
>fate
fucking cancer, kill yourself
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>>138551495
only if you're so new
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>>138552053
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>>138551495
Get a load of this eyesore.
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>>138552117
There is no need to be upset.
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Soujuurou pre civilization would wreck them
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>>138546909
>>138547230
>these are the kind of newfags that post on /a/ these days
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>>138552251
I have a bit of hatred of fate because it was worse than turkeyhandle, but ended up being more popular so we've gotten 6 billion fate spinoffs in the past 10 years.
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>>138549474

Hourai elixir drinkers have some retarded level of hax that makes them immune to pretty much any sort of attempt to kill them or remove their immortality.
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>>138552053
Is that a chair?
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>>138552315
what's his super power?
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>>138552422
He punches hard. Divine beasts and bears are afraid of him.
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>>138546857
saitama ofc
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>>138552315
Who?
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>>138552760
Mahoyo best boi
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>>138552422
Literally "You didn't tell me I couldn't beat it so I beat it"

>>138552760
The guy who made sensei be into pure boys
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>>138547230
>Being this new
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>>138552315
Nasu said that Soujuurou was "stronger than any other TYPE-MOON protagonist" when he first came down from the mountains, but who exactly counts as a protagonist? He's obviously stronger than Shiki then, but does Saber, for instance, count as a protagonist?
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>>138553168
Is aoko still a virgin when she met shiki_
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>>138548706
He's not immortal you jackass, he's just strong.
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>>138553233
>but does Saber, for instance, count as a protagonist?
She's a love interest.
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>>138553258
We'll know when Mahoyo 3 comes out in 2050

>>138553233
Good question,I don't know
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>>138553258
I hope she's still a virgin, i want her to be pure
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>>138547230
>>138546909
I'm so fucking embarrassed of this fanbase.
Opm anime adaption was a fucking mistake.
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>>138553480
Not even a fan but """nasu""""""verse""" related media is shit
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>>138553233
>Soujuurou is stronger than Arc

>>138553233
>but does Saber, for instance, count as a protagonist?
>Implying Soujuurou was stronger than Arc

Literally stronger than a God.
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>>138553480
>>138553530
It's all shit
But if you have any knowledge of anything related to /a/ you should know who Shiki is
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>>138553480
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>>138553628
>But if you have any knowledge of anything related to /a/ you should know who Shiki is
And that's why pretending not to is such an effective troll.
At least, I choose to believe that >>138546909
and >>138547230 are trolling.
I'm not sure I could go on otherwise.
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They can only be 1 winner...Pssh...Nothing personnel... Kid...
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>>138553999
that's a big sword
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>>138550733
Powerlevels mean nothing in Type-Moon when shit that happens in the plot can totally fuck anyone over.
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>>138554093

You can say that about anything though.
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>>138549436
Ryougi is way weaker than Tohno/Nanaya, he's faster and stronger, having a MEoDP that's better won't save her at all.

Void is stronger, or should at least. Of course Void has no feats and only boasted off she could do things but never proved anything.
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>>138553848
>OPM and Fate in the OP
>second post in the thread so people instantly see it when they enter the thread
Ofcourse it's a b8
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>>138552315
>Megacuck
>Wrecking anything

>>138553384
>Aoko
>Virgin

>I don't mean to be distant, but if you learned your lesson, please avoid the mansion. Going to Nii-san's room is simply intolerable.
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>>138554196
Even more so in Type-Moon since otherwise "invincible" characters get their shit pushed in as a result of plot events.
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>>138554223
Assuming she's able to do what she said, does it mean she could defeat ORT?
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>>138554442
She can't, she can't even fight servants and servants along with their meme grand servants are garbage tier compared to strong fucks in the verse.
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>>138551757
I haven't played through in a long time, but either way, he wouldn't necessarily be able to see any lines on OPM.
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>>138554568
Even if she can touch akasha?
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>>138554442
>>138554568
You can never know with nasuverse. Aristotles have no concept of death on Earth, but then you have shit like Ado Edem or Black Barrel that can kill them anyway, but not really, or something.
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>>138554365
That's because they weren't invincible enough. In Fate/Extra characters like Meltlilith and BB are literally invincible unless you get on their level, and then there is Amaterasu who is on a tier beyond invincible and only Arc can touch her.
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>>138554568
Void Ryougi's rot connection makes all parameters meaningless and her strongest attack is an instant-kill with the same range as CCC Enuma Elish.
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>an irrelevant eroge protagonist of a forgotten series vs a satire shounen mc

Yeah, giving my odds on baldie. Without plot armor, Tohno could be defeated by the Japanese truck.
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>>138553233
Saber is a main heroine, not a protagonist.
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>>138554875
Oh god, stop wanking the worst *5 Saber of the game. She's legimately shit.
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>>138554904
Tohno went into coma by getting hit by japanese truck in kagetsu tohya though
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>>138553233
Stronger than HF Shirou is pretty strong.
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>>138555001
That's him saved by his plot armor. Without it, he would be dead.
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>>138554697
According to Nasu, no. And it's more like she is Akasha
>>138554758
Slash Emperor can't kill them, it destroys them, their bodies(we should note Ado Edem is GOAT tier too). Aristoteles have survived BB.

>>138554875
Except that she can't even fight servants, so stop posting headcanons.
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>>138555086
Nasuverse is confusing, by standard logic if you can touch akasha (moreover if she's the akasha herself) then you can basically change the rule of universe, but somehow nasu said void couldn't kill ORT
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>>138555086
>Except that she can't even fight servants

Retconned in Grand Order it seems. She killed ghosts hat were remnants of Counter Guardians and massively stronger than Servants (the Servants admited they were going to be annhilated) without trying.
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>>138546909
I'm with this guy.
I know who he is from the unlimited power level works we've had, but would never know beyond that because we can all agree Moon is fucking garbage and not worth playing/reading/watching.
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But can Void kill Manaka?
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>>138555327
GO events are literally a joke anon, caster Cu Chulainn runs from Scathach and opens a store in one of the rooms of the building.

Nobu appears out of nowhere. And a lot more
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>>138555265
That's because Nasu is full of shit and the Nasuverse is about as consistent as Nasu's writing frequency.
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>>138546857
I don't care who would win, I just want to point out that I think OPM is actually slightly less autistic then the nasuverse.

Which is saying a lot about you mongoloids.
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>>138555392
>i know who he is
Then you are good, liking him or not is not relevant with the subject we've been talking about earlier
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>>138547436
Better than liking fateshit
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>>138555544
>Fate
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>>138555063
HF Shirou is not Shirou, he has Archer's arm. Nasu talks about their own abilities. And i'm pretty sure he also talks about the MCs as they are when the story happens because we know Shirou can become pretty good and Shiki is OC donut that has incest power and muh potential. He can even form a contract with Len and that would kill any decent magus, he has potential for magic shit

Soojuro can't fight HF Shirou or Vampire Shiki that killed Gaia.
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>>138555622
Roa is a hell of a drug.
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>>138555585
Tukihime=Nasuverse
Fate=Nasuverse
Tukihime=Fate

>>138555622
>Soojuro can't fight HF Shirou or Vampire Shiki that killed Gaia.
UBW Shirou is the strongest one because he is the only one who can use UBW.
HF Shriou is weaker because despite having access to Archer's arm and skills, he's much more limited in their use.
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>>138555800
UBW isn't even strong.
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>>138555800
By your logic:
/a/=4chan
/v/=4chan
/a/=/v/
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>>138555882
>/a/=/v/
But it is.
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>>138555839
He beat Gilgamesh, what did HF do that compared to that?
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>>138555800
UBW shirou needs rin's vagina to use UBW, HF shirou doesn't need worm pussy to fight
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>>138546909
Kirito, I think.
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>>138555921
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>>138556000
HF Shriou needs Archer's arm to do anything.
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>>138555970
>beat
You mean threw shit at him long enough to buy time?
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>>138546909
>>138547230
>>>/out/
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Tohno would probably lose since he can't keep up. Nanaya on the other hand would probably win.
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>>138556063
No I mean cut off his arm and was ab out to kill him before he ran out of mana. And as >>138556000 said, the mana supply was Rin's responsibility.
And you didn't answer my question, what did HF Shrou that compares to that?
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>>138556144
I don't actually know. I only watched UBW once and it was dogshit so I never picked up anything else.
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I love this. Embarrassing oldfags vs. embarrassing newfags.
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>>138546857
Best Shiki wins
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>>138556083
To be fair, I had the same reaction at first. The guy is pretty generic looking and I thought he was holding a keitai from the thumbnail. It becomes obvious if you open the image though.
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>>138556049
One shoting dark zerk and (supposedly) win against alter in spark linear high is pretty admirable compared to defeating off guard gil i think
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>>138555882
That's true though.
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>>138556547
I meant for this
>>138556144
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I'm fucking disappointed in you guys.
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>>138556666
>no "Shiki can kill Powerman, Discuss"
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>>138556666
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>>138556666
Nice quads, powerman
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>>138556732
I read this right to left by accident, and thought it was on purpose.
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>>138556732
I think that sprite is Nanaya's
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>>138556732
>>138556692
Stop lying.
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>>138556862
Oh, that's why the colors inverted.
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>>138546909
I thought it's Yuuji from Grisaia for a sec
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>>138556862
Post the full page next time.
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>>138556547
>One shoting dark zerk
A blind, skinless Dark Beserker
>win against alter in spark linear high
Saber was still alive after Crane Wing Three Realm, just like Gil was alive after Unlimited Blade Works, the feats are equal at best.
The difference is Shirou could still stand and fight UBW. He almost certainly would have lost, but he was still in better condition after his fight with Gil than he was after his fight with Saber.
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>>138547199
>>138548002
Lightning is slow to Saitama. Servants are insects to Saitama.

He's a comedy character, and that's the joke.

Child Emperor makes a powerlevel scouter and looks at Saitama. It cracks and displays 'undefined' because Saitama's power is beyond measurement.

Shiki would look at Saitama and notice, "He has no lines of death... How is this possible? How do I fight this guy?" And Saitama would catch his knife between his two fingers or break it with his teeth or something.

Because he's a comedy character and that's the joke.
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>>138556946
Fuck wrong page. Well whatever. This is supposed to be the last. But here is the page before.
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>>138557050
Fucking idiot, i'm embarassed
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>>138548816

It's not as if he's invincible to psychic powers. In the OPM universe, resistance to esper powers is generally dictated by the force of willpower. Generally speaking, Saitama just has a fuckton of willpower and assuming a telekinetic with sufficiently higher willpower than that of Saitama fights him, he would be affected.
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>>138546909
Please tell me this is bait
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>>138555970
UBW is only effective against Gilgamesh.
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Lets fucking settle this once and for all /a/. no hard feelings, got it?

TSUKIHIME or FATE?
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>>138557389
Tsukihime
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>>138557389
I have no strong preference either way.
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>>138557389
Wait until Tsukihime R comes out.
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>>138557530
Cute Arc dude
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>>138557389
>SHIT or SHIT?
Nah.
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>>138557389
Turkey handle because it has the superior girls, Shiki is too edgy though.
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>>138557389
Tsukihime. And if we count +Disc, KT and MB Fate gets BTFO.
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>>138557590
>Turkey handle
>not Turkeyhandle
I bet you don't even Porkslope
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>>138557389
Tsukihime for sure
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>>138557590
I like medusa and Medea though.
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>>138557389
Tsukihimay
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>>138557590
>Shiki
>Edgy

What? Even if you say you only read Tsukihime, Shiki is not edgy. He has half his life and some fucker mindfucks him into believing he's killing people, then his maid drugs him to fuck even more his mind.

Hell just read Sacchin's death
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>>138557389
Don't know.
Tsukihime anime was pretty good so I will go with it even if fate was a good ride too.
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BLUE BLUE GRASS MOON UNDER FUCKING CRIMSON HAIR
TSUKIHIMAY UP IN THIS MOTHERFUCK SHITS
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>>138557665
There's a lot more than that anon.
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>>138557696
Well compared to Shirou everyone is edgy.
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>>138557730
But there is no Tsukihime anime
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>>138557730
>>138557757
Surely he meant the manga?
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>>138557730
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>>138557742
Shirou is downright annoying most of the t
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>>138557740
Sion,len,aoko,roastbeef,then?
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>>138557742
>Shirou isn't edgy
Did we play the same VN?
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>>138557856
Time*

Shiki killed my keyboard.
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Okay, i guess we need a strawpoll for this
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>>138557905
His nurse, +Disc Kara no Kyokai chick.

Lorelei maybe. We'll never know.

White Len
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>>138557914
>killing a murderous villain
>edgy
That word really has lost all meaning.
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>>138556083
Don't worry. You fit in just fine!
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>>138557389
Tsukihimay forever.
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>>138557389
Kara no Kyoukai
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>>138558008
>Lolerei hate sex with shiki
Cannot wait
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>>138558169
>she meets Shiki and falls for him
>Finds out he's satsujinki
>They fuck anyways
>Shiki fills her magic association womb

It writes itself
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>>138548157
because it's a cartoon comedy, not an anime
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>>138557905
>roastbeef

Ries is canon gay for Sion and Satsuki.

>>138558008
>White Len

That's Nanaya's waifu.
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>>138559643
>canon gay
>implying it could protect her from his gland
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>>138558546
>it's a cartoon, not an anime
lol
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>>138548157
Cause they all are news that have only watched shits like OPM.
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>Gold Experience Requiem reduces Saitama's punch to zero
>now he's Zero Punch Man
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>>138546857

Can Shiki cut his limiter?
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>>138560250
No, otherwise he would have cut his inability to use his eyes constantly.
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>>138556500
She could kill Saitama if she had an opening right? All she would half to do is cut his lines
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>>138558142
>>138557389
Only right answer so far
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>>138547230
Why is /a/ so fucking easy to bait?
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>>138560453
You're assuming he has lines, or even if he does that Shiki's (either one) eyes are strong enough to see them.
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>>138560453
>Implying Saitama has lines
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>>138560553
>>138560571
All living things have lines. If she can kill concepts she can kill a man.
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>>138560553
>>138560571
There is nothing suggesting Saitama doesn't have a human lifespan. Unless you have proof that Saitama will live till the heat death of the universe, then he definitely has lines.
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>>138560639
>All living things have lines.
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>>138560639
What it if Saitama's origin makes him transcend concepts.
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>>138560651
I'm not implying that Saitama will live till the heat death of the universe, I am claiming that he will surpass it.
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> This thread
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>>138546909
THAT CHAIR
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>>138550073
He's right though
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>>138552590
Just like Saitama! fucktard.
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>>138554059
for you
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>>138560733
>Saitameme
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>>138556890
Hell, that's why I clicked on this thread.
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>>138546857
Accelerator can beat both at the same time.
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>>138546909
The Guy who decided that a cat is fine too.
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>>138549591
They do it's just not on them. The lines are else where
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Saitama has plot shield from his author. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InvincibleHero) while Shiki does not.
That's why Saitama wins.
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>>138562432
Shiki could cut the lines to his powers; if Touma can negate them Shiki can kill them
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>>138548157
Like any normie will know who the fuck a Shiki is. The dude looks like a typical generic high school shonen protagonist.
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>>138546857
which hero was shiki again? Was he assassin?
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>>138563304
>Shiki doesn't have plot armor

laughingwhores.jpg
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>>138546857
Can Shiki kill Umaru or any of the Matsus?
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funny, but can either of them defeat madara uchiha?
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>>138566549
None that I'm aware of.
As if he happens to have one, then this whole fighting scenario ends up in a never ending stall.
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>>138549265

Offscreen, he gets beat the fuck down and the fight is already over, no explanation given

Onscreen, she goes flying into space after getting bitch slapped by Saitama followed by him going "is this a joke?"
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>>138546857
Accelerator wins.
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can opm or shiki beat arima?
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The real question is, what can beat [ ]
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>>138567558
Math says the ( ) do
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I can't remember much about Tsukihime. I remember watching it like 7 or so years ago. I remember his power being like the ability to cut anything or some shit? Is that right?
I also haven't touched any of those spin offs because I'm not really interested in that entire series.

If so, I guess if he just walked past Saitama on the street, whipped out his knife and cut his head off and walked off, he'd win. But otherwise, I think Saitama would win.
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>>138567558
Servants.
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>>138567672
They're both invincible since we have to assume the characters retain all their tropes alongside
>Shiki walks past Saitama and tries to sneakly stab him
>Saitama suddenly "stumbles" on a little rock, which makes Shiki misses it
>Saitama prepares to punch Shiki but then gets distracted by ManBearPig, who suddenly pops out of a nearby manhole, missing the punch

This shit goes on ad nauseum
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>>138567803
Nice meme
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>>138568144
Information from Nasu is not a meme
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>>138568144
Nasu literally said that Void can only fight defensively against an average servant. She's Ciel level.
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>>138568179
But Void is a servant now too.
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>>138547230
>the tears of triggered /a/nons
Delicious, thank you for sharing them my friend. It's always a better world when /a/ isn't happy
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>>138549265
he'd toy with her for a bit until she cried and then he'd make a show of losing to make her feel better and then he'd take her grocery shopping and they would start dating
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>>138570211
Fake shitty servant.
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>>138553848
>using the word troll
Return to Reddit.
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Well?
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>>138572092

...
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>>138567424
>genius level intellect with control over vectors.
>couldn't use his ability indirectly to beat the MC.
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>>138572092
>>>deviantart
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>>138555622
He can also have a fucking crocodile jump from his sides if he learns magic in Arc route.
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Given how Saitama is FTL and Shiki isnt the answer is obvious.
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>>138557856
Was manga finally retranslated?
>>138557905
>beef
The only girl to have gland immunity
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>>138574734
>Arc route.
It was Ciel route
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>>138574933
Right, I confuse them.
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>>138557826
ded
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>>138567672
>watching
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How is this thread still alive?
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>>138546857
saitama might take a blow of certain death but he would still take an infinite amount of time to die
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>>138575811
i agree, the entropy might goes very slow for saitama
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>>138562432
nope accelerator never showed feats in his series that showed he can take saitama's power
and if you argue that nothing has managed to not work for accel then i can say no one has ever beaten saitama with the difference being that saitama has better feats
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But can Saitama or Shiki even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I’m not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano’o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.
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>>138575951

Both stomp him to the ground faggot
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Could Arc kill girgamesh?
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>>138557389
Tsukihime because the MC is better.
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>>138557389
Both. Though Tsukihime gets a bit more prefernce from me because muh baby first VN.
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>>138575951
hahaha fair argument..
but can madara even touch EMIYA?
And I'm not talking about Shirou Emiya.
No, I'm not talking about Servant Archer EMIYA.
Hell, I'm not talking about Counter Guardian EMIYA either.
I'm talking about Counter Guardian EMIYA with infinite Prana (which is capable of Unlimited Blade Works with Excalibur, Avalon and EA),
his two original Kansho and Bakuya (which grant him magic resistance, STR, AGI, MGI and Monster slayer buffs)
and infiniteswords from his back (capable of using Caladbolg, Hrunting, Rho Aias, Gae bolg, Caliburn, Nine lives
and even thewhole Gate of Babylon(capable of using ea and Enuma Elish) and a Arondight because he is a master in swords,
a perfect Excalibur (that can use Avalon), control of both Saber and Rin, with Dark Sakura Matou shadow and face implanted on his chest,
his four Clones from all routes guarding him and Berserker with Nine Lives floating behind him AFTER he absorbed 7 servants from the First Holy grail,
entered Archetype Earth Mode, call the Types from the stars on everybody and used Unlimited Blade works: infinite creation of swords so he can use their weapons while they are under even more swords.
and I’m not talking about human Fate-route Shirou Emiya.
No, I’m not talking about Archer's Arm Nine Lives Blade Works Shirou Emiya.
Hell, I’m not talking about Ultimate Master Chef High Jump Jackhammer Emiya either.
I’m talking about Post-Grail-War Maximum Power Throne of Heroes-Contracted Counter Guardian Shirou Emiya with the Unlimited Blade Works (which is capable of Rho Aias, Avalon, Caliburn and Three Wing Crane),
his two original chinese broadswords (along with Excalibur, Caladbolg, Durandal, Gram, Ea, Ig-Alima, Berserker's Sword, Azoth Sword, Hrunting, Caladbolg II, Tawrich, and Zarich)
and a third Archer's Arm on his forehead, capable of cooking Udon, Katsudon, Chikaraudon, Curryudon, Yakiudon, Kakeudon, Kitsuneudon, Zaruudon, Tempura Udon and even Ramen noodles.
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OPMfags sure became cancerous once the anime aired. Its facebook-tier of cancer at this point
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>>138576006
30% Arc propably can't. Warc or 100% stomps though.
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>>138546857
Demonbane.
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>>138576057
>Shirou
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>>138551757

> when she pinned him down

Trying to talk to him in letting her suck (his blood) and make him his dead apostle.

Saitama would probably not do the same.

> then Shiki killed part of Gaia which allowed him to see lines on her

Still that would not allow him to see Saitam's death lines, if there are any.
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>>138552315

I am planning on reading Mahoyo.
How is it?
Is it better than Tsukihime?
I have already finished it and I am playing Fate/HF.
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To be fair, that is an uncommon and pretty shitty picture of Shiki, to the point where even I thought for a second "is that Shiki?" Even his knife is shaped wrong.

I almost thought it was a Shiki clone from a shitty VN or something. I can't even blame the newfags for being confused.
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>>138576057
But Gae Bolg and Ea aren't swords.
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>>138576057
doesn't he need permission from the hero's for stuff like Excalibur and EA?
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>>138546857

Saitama's power is to win, so he wins.
It's not meant to be taken serious, it's a parody on Shounen battle manga.
Shiki will demonstrate his power and slap Saitama around for a bit then Saitama punches him into oblivion and then he goes home to find out he forgot to pay the bills or something.
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>>138546857
Saitama's lines of death could catch the knife and snap it because he's Saitama.
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>>138546909
Mikiya
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>282 posts
Why?
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>>138546857
desu though, I wouldn't think that is Shiki either. Because that pic is not type moon.

Could be from some random eroge character holding a knife.
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>>138577163
We're having a discussion here anon
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>>138576982
MOAR
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>>138576338
Shiki can kill Demonbane
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>>138546857
It's funny that Saitama can probably beat ORT with one punch, but that Primate Murder would probably owned him thanks to his authority over humans. The Nasuverse is fucked up.

About this match, well, if Saitama get serious and doesn't let himself be hit, then he wins. Unfortunately, he tends to let his enemies land attacks on him due to his confident personality. And yeah, he for certain possesses Lines of Death. He is no alien, or someone who has reached Nirvana or self extinction of oneself while alive, he is far from being mentally and spiritually perfect.

On the plus side, there is a bigger chance of OM season 2 happening than Tsukihime's remake or sequel.
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>>138578834
primate murder won't be able to do shit to saitama
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>>138578834
nah he probably does not have lines of death and even if he has they would be unbreakable just like how tatsumaki couldn't do shit to him with her telekinesis
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>>138578834
ORT follows laws of physics different than those of Earth and it's said as long as you fight ORT on Earth he is invincible. The physics within Crystal Valley are different, this includes time since you need to remember ORT came to Earth before Gaia even sent the call. The laws of physics are decided on a planet by planet basis and Types have absolute control of those laws in their territory. That should tell you how fucked up the Nasuverse is.
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>>138578984
Prove it, connect the concept of lack of death lines in the nasuverse to OPM, for now you are just giving your opinion relying on shitty speculation and arguments.
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>>138578944
It takes Seven Grand Servants (to stalemate not defeat). And this is some of the shit only one of those Servants (Solomon AKA Grand Caster) can do:

-Time traveling, can stop others from time-traveling
-His mere presence "crushes space"
-Summoning himself from the throne of heroes
-Being able to spam and control any human magic at will(usually mindfucks people into his slaves)
-Having NP which is billion lasers in orbit around the Earth, each individual laser being equal to Excalibur in power
-Connected to the root, giving him infinite pool of power
-Can perfectly see past/future
-Has his version of PtV which is literally asking omniscent God what to do instead of alien supercomputer
-Can spam and control spirits from future/past, including 72 Demon Gods
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>>138579188
I remember reading that ORT can still be destroyed physically, but that it was immune to MEODP.
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>>138579188
>The physics within Crystal Valley are different, this
>includes time
Stop your fanfiction, secondary.
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>>138552315
Where the FUCK do I find a crack for this shit?
I've been searching for days, and none of the NODVD cracks are working for me, they only cause the game to stop working.
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>>138578984
There is no reason he doesn't. Lines of death are based on lifespan. So far we have no reason to believe Saitama has an infinite lifespan. Inb4 Saitameme.
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>>138548157
He is the normies flavor of the month.
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>>138579308
this is the correct answer for now
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>>138579276
>Ignorant newfag calling me secondary

Read Garden of Avalon and Gil's route in CCC newfag. The Age of Gods was confirmed to have different laws of physics that changed after the Age of Man. This goes double for other planets who are confirmed to have completely alien rules.
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>>138579378
>This goes double for other planets who are confirmed to have completely alien rules.
Nice fanfiction. And Saitama doesn't give fuck about cosmic radiation, gravity and temperature.
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>>138579456
not to mention vacuum has no effect on saitama
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>>138579456
Q: Who would be stronger if Servants fought the 27 Ancestors? Servant's also have superhuman battle ability, but the 27 Ancestors are also superhuman monsters.... I got the impression that ORT, Primate Murder, Altrouge Brunestud, and so on were obviously stronger than Servants.

A: All I can is they're both powerful.... They're both beings that live in mystery, so the only thing that can be said is that it all depends on the situation the moment it comes done to ""having the means of killing the other guy somehow". Among those, Earth rules won't even apply to ORT in the first place and Primate Murder has the super advantage against primates so they're in a league of their own, I suppose. Speaking of which, for one Primate Murder, seven Guardians would be the appropriate amount.

>Among those, Earth rules won't even apply to ORT in the first place
>Huurrrr Earth and Mercury have the same rules

Fuck off with your ignorance newfag. Saitameme gets fucked and turned into crystals by being in the mere presence of ORT and the same goes for any Type. Archetype Earth turns Saitameme into a mice, and yes she can.
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>>138579685
>Huurrrr Earth and Mercury have the same rules
>no one said this ITT
>Saitameme gets fucked and turned into crystals by being in the mere presence of ORT and the same goes for any Type.
That's why no one likes secondaries.
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>who is this
>who is that
>you don't know who that is
>what a faggot

99% of the anime that /a/ likes is irredeemable trash. This includes LITERALLY everything to do with Fate and its Mary/Gary Sue donut steel characters.
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This guy could defeat Saitama, but given his incompetence, it's impossible

The current him can desroy Boros' ship in a single strike and end Boros in one attack tho.
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>>138548002
Saitama is FTL
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>>138579800
>Ignorant ONEmemefag calling others secondaries

Mai sides.
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>>138578944
>has the "absolute right of killing over man", a "super advantage" over primates

Other Type-Moon characters that can defeat Saitama or have high chances of achieving that, thanks to their crazy and conceptually stronger abilities that not necessarily deal just physical damage, include:

Saver: Amita Amitabha deals damage that no living thing, no human can withstand, is the ultimate “anti-individual” Noble Phantasm used by Saver. Just non-human or non-living things have chances of surviving his ultimate attack.

BB: CCC crushes the present world with the world desired by the user In addition to scattering all objects inside on an atomic level and reconstructing them, it is capable of writing over and rewriting information of fields such as luck and coincidence. Basically, she rewrites/erases an old reality with a new one. Of course, this is just limited to an imaginary space in which BB attains the supreme authority of a goddess, the Mooncell.

Kiara: With Angra Mainyu/CCC creates a vortex of pleasure that melts sapient beings, subliming their lives in a brief instant. It is the birth of an ephemeral but eternal Land of Bliss. It works on any sapient being without exception, no matter how different the structure of intelligence, making it a Noble Phantasm that is not limited to only the Earth.

Meltlilith: Saraswati Meltout controls things that flow, especially water and wind, music, words, speech, and poetry. It dissolves both matter and the spirit. Its ability is meant to trample and absorb the body, mind, society, and objects turned to slime. no matter ho physically strong he is, he still has water inside his body and a mind that can be turned to slime.

Gil with perfect and fully-unleashed Ea: Performing the miracle of genesis, the attack opens an abyss capable of crushing all of creation, and the center of the storm is not calm, but rather a hole to hell itself that returns all that enters its realm to the nothingness from which it originated
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>>138579300
http://pastebin.com/ihD3vTJB
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>>138552315
Still waiting for the full translation of Mahoyo, but he basically sounds like Saitama.
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>>138579884
you think its absurd that saitama could beat primate murder,you forget that saitama got so strong by doing a normal workout,do you honestly think primate murder would be able to do anything at all to him?
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>>138579341
I've noticed I've seen way more fanart of animu knocking out capes then the other way around. Are they not bad enough dudes unless they can beat up Superman?
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>>138579981
>has the "absolute right of killing over man", a "super advantage" over primates
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>>138579986
pretty much
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>>138579981
Primate Murder's power is authority over kiling primates.

Authority [Miracle]
Special abilities categorically different from Codecasts, skills, and Noble Phantasms.
Powers on the level of event shifting, time-flow manipulation, kingdom-building, basically, world construction, are called by this name.
They had been around in the age called the age of gods, more than 6000 years ago, but ever since the beginning of the AD calendar, they were relieved of their duty with the advance of human civilization and retired to the past.
A normal skill “is able to accomplish a certain task by following a corresponding principle”, but an authority works “simply by making things happen because one has that right”.
Divine spirit Servants should have this, but using this power in the modern age requires a bit of a penalty (self-ruin).
In CCC, the being that swallowed the Moon Cell had reached this realm.

It requires 7 Grand Servants to match that authority each of which could beat Saitama.
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>>138579877
>muh ORT can't lose!
>muh subculture
>he's ONEmemefag for sure!
As I expected from underage secondary.
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>>138580010
Well they could at least pick the villains. Beating up heroes just makes them dicks
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>>138578268
That wouldn't stop Demonbane, though.
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>>138580121
does not matter,saitama was written to be unbeatable.
what you say only applies to type moon characters not anyone else that have a weird toonforce-y invincibility

its the same as the mask vs primate murder,which will be in favour of the mask cause thats how he is written in his series
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>>138580128
>Gives reasons why ORT won't lose
>Bu-but you are secondary!
>muh Saitameme!

I'd expect no less of a braindead Saitamatard.
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>>138580180
Do you have any good argument other than Saitameme? Just because has so far been invincible in his own universe doesn't mean anything to other series.
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>>138580121
I don't think you should prise Primate Murder's abilities so high. We don't see him in action. Like what? Instant kill all humans around 400km? Giant blow that kill all humans on Earth? It's only sound good at paper. Maybe we will see in Tsuki2
>>138580240
Your reasons are fanfiction. And you never read CCC and DDD
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>>138546857
/thread
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>>138580269
yes,do you have any official crossover where what you say about other universes physics being not a matter when it comes to a human vs primate murder.
if not then what you say will ONLY after to type moon verse

which is why saitama will be able to beat primate murder,as you cant do that without the author's permission,so if ONE wrote saitama to eble unbeatable then the "saitameme" as you call it is a perfectly just argument unlike you
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>>138580315
this! his reasons are literally "fanfiction"
as in he is applying them to toher series where they cannot be applied .
say if ONE says saitama is unbeatable,then no matter what the powers of fate characters are,they WILL NOT be able to beat him
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>>138579884
Ryougi Shiki: Not only she possesses superior MEODP compared to Tohno, but has a third personality connected to the Void/Root. Her third personality born from the body, 「 」, can be said to be directly connected to Akasha, and she can even be called Akasha itself. While Shiki can see the Root with her Mystic Eyes, 「 」 can go even deeper, connecting to where all cause and effect begin and everything and nothing exist.[19] She claims the ability to do anything she wishes, as being connected to it makes her an equivocal existence. She claims restructuring the laws governing atomic matter, going back in time to change the evolution and development of all life, and reconstructing the orders and laws of the world would be easy for her to accomplish. It is not actually changing the existing world, but instead annihilating the old one with a new reality.

David with Ark of Convenant: As a Noble Phantasm, its effect is narrow but absolute; besides the Servant that carries them, all those who would deem to touch the box without authorization are drained of their energy unto death. Basically, if Saitma touches it, he dies.

Kanata: Since she has unlimited growth and unlimited access to the durability of her body. Her Agonist Disorder involves her becoming the strongest being, increasing in strength in order to overpower others. The ability can even evolve to the point of destroying planets under the very specific conditions of Ookumaneko's concept universe. He views the planets and the entire universe as lifeforms of their own, so she becomes able to destroy them once she also identifies them as beings.

Ado Edem with Slash Emperor: It uses the Earth itself in order to increase its size, and as it gets larger, the more of the Earth is simultaneously chipped away. The sword is capable of slashing through Type Jupiter, an Aristoteles without a normal concept of death, in a single blow, and it later allows him to destroy Type Saturn.
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>>138580315
>Your reasons are fanfiction

Saying the rules/laws of physics on Mercury are different than those of Earth is not fanfiction. We have Gil stating in CCC that the laws of physics changed once the Age of Man set in, and we have statements saying that Earth rules don't apply to ORT. We also have ORT coming to Earth before Gaia's distress call even went out. Those, my friend, are all facts.

>And you never read CCC and DDD

I read Gil's route in CCC. DDD is irrelevant, not part of the Nasuverse.
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>>138580426
nope what will happen is the same as what happened when tats tried to screw him with his psychic powers.
you fatefags resorted to fanfiction to give you guys the false idea that your favourite characters can beat him.
i repeat again,the fate physics do not apply to other series universes unless allowed by the author
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>>138580353
Avenger stated even a human stronger than Servants would die to him because of conceptual powers, even though he can't kill Servants. Primate Murder's authority isn't a matter of strength, but of concepts. Until you have shown feats of Saitameme surviving powers that kill him on a conceptual level you have no business here.
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>>138580436
saitama's earth has 5 moons and is a super continent,the physics are different.
you can turn into a monster by eating too much crab,become as strong as superman with regular training.
so yes your arguments are nothing but fanfiction
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>>138580320
Man that was such an aggressive response. Felt out of character. I almost expected him to squash Sonic then.
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>>138580554
the author say no,what will your argument be now?
forget avengers,im saying if ONE says saitama is unbeatable then what is your argument to that?
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>>138580426
>Ryougi Shiki
Defensive fight at best against Servants. Won't do much agaist Saitama
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>>138580520
Types literally force their laws on their surroundings and anything caught within them gets subjected to them without exception. For example, Amaterasu was literally described as an invincible enemy who none of the CCC characters can touch (bear in mind CCC characters have broken powers and strength far beyond what Saitama has shown) but Arc's authority can still affect her because it is a rule of the universe, and even a literally invincible enemy can't defy it.
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>>138580643
wow so you are actually saying the author of the series says no it wont work and you say it will still work?
no matter what happens if author says its wont work then it wont even if it sounds or looks absurd,it wont period,get that to your head
stop being a little baby and be realistic
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>>138580436
>Saying the rules/laws of physics on Mercury are different than those of Earth is not fanfiction.
It's true. But you shouldn't say
>The physics within Crystal Valley are different, this includes time
You don't know. You don't have this kind information. Only vague "laws". And
>Saitama literally doesn't give fuck about laws.
No matter how different "laws" was, they can't turn Earth in giant black hole or Sun.
>Types were killed in Notes
Fact
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>>138580611
Not after Grand Order

Root Connection: A
That is something which arose from「 」and follows up to「 」.
Divided at the two polarities, circulating with the four symbols, assembling the eight trigrams; the one that lays the principle of the world.
The two polarities refers to the yin-yang denoted by the taijitu*.
Her name comes from the "shiki" of suushiki**, the "shiki" of shikigami.

In other words, the mark of an almighty wish-machine.

For those who possess this Skill, regular parameters become meaningless.

>For those who possess this Skill, regular parameters become meaningless.

Amala-Vijnana・Kara no Kyoukai**
Rank:
Type: Anti-Unit
Range: 1~999
Maximum Targets: 64*** people
An all-party attack that applies the theory of the mystic eyes of direct death, severing the targets' "lines of death".
The sword stroke of the afterlife released from nirvana bestows peace to all existences.

Only Gaia's counter force was stated to be unkillable to Ryougi's powers.
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>>138580710
Can you post a quote of the author (either ONE or Murata) saying Saitama is invincible? Because I have never seen it.
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>>138580554
>>138580643
Saitama is literally omnipotent. He doesn't operate according to logic. Your "laws" mean nothing to him, he's an outlaw. Basically he's like the Christian god people talk about in real life but he actually exists in anime.
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>>138580793
i don't think you understand what im talking about what im saying is this >>138580816
he is written to be that way,you can't beat him by logic,thats just how he works
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>>138580746
>You don't know. You don't have this kind information

What about the fact ORT crash landed on Earth before Gaia's distress call went out? If that doesn't prove time is different on Mercury/Crystal Valley I don't know what will.

>No matter how different "laws" was

Please show me Saitama ever resisting powers from an high end reality warper, then we can talk about Saitama giving no fucks about laws.
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>>138580793
It's a conclusion drawn from his name: One punch man. He can beat anything with a single punch, which includes infinitely strong beings. This implies he himself is a higher order of infinity in terms of power.
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>>138580570
I agree, that scene felt weird. Not even when Boros destroyed an entire city and killed many persons with his ship, Saitama felt that angry towards him. BTW SEASON AND NEW CHAPTER WHEN!? I want to see Fubuki vs. Do-S.

>>138580611
Yeah, on a normal physical fight. But why fight them directly when you can just erase their existence or kill their concepts?

>>138580426
I was going to post more characters with copy/paste info, like Archetype Earth, Zelretch and other Types, but I'm too lazy and I don't know if they possess specific abilities that can defeat a supposedly physical invincible being. Point is, there are other ways to defeat Saitama that don't involve conventional or physical attacks. Manipulation of concepts or rules of nature are effective against him. After all, he is still human. Hell, he can still die without oxygen, like of all us.
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>>138580893
Ok so you have no quote from the author. We are done here. It really all comes down to Saitameme.
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>>138580426
wait are there more than one shiki? there's a female one?
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>>138580599
>im saying if ONE says saitama is unbeatable then what is your argument to that?

i can say the same:
now if NASU says primate murder's authority can kill every human no matter how strong they are, what is your argument to that?
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>>138580924
>thinking Saitama has any concept of death
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>implying Saitama's concept can be destroyed

I'm pretty sure his invincibility applies to every part of his existence, now.
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>>138581021
Slash Emperor can force him to have a concept of death.
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>>138548078
Man what the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>138580924
>>138580570
That's because he was panicking. He knows his muscles can stop villains. But they can't stop HA from kicking him out for not keeping a quota
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>>138580924
>just erase their existence or kill their concepts
>implying he has the concept of death
>implying Ryougi's mind won't explode from the strain of trying to see those lines

>>138581014
Saitama ain't human. He's god with a human appearance. There.
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>>138581061
i don't even know what that is but searching through the thread it just eats the earth to get bigger? so it would eat the entire earth and still not match saitama in power.
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>>138580924
>Archetype Earth

Archetype Earth's authority can disassemble and rearrange living beings on a cellular level (she transmutes people into dogs) and drop people into rifts in space time. Both things Saitama has no defense to.
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>>138581072
Oh shit yeah I forgot. He doesn't have immunity to bureaucracy yet.
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>>138581110
>Both things Saitama has no defense to.
he has a defense to everything which is why even when facing a psychic for the first time they couldn't do anything to him it's not like he was training to face them in his spare time
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Gag characters will always beat serious character.

Rules of comedy always trumps everything.
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>>138581078
>Saitama ain't human. He's god with a human appearance.
oh god, are all OPMfags this cancerous?
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>>138581078
>Implying that she cannot alter evolution to prevent his birth
>Ignoring that Slash Emperor forces the concept of death to any being
>Ignoring the rest of the NPs that not necessarily beat him physically, but erase his existence, or turn the water and mind of his body into slime in End of Evangelion-style.
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>>138580897
ORT use his UFO form to drift in space for sure.
It's protect him from temperature and other cosmic shit.
Meanwhile Saitama was kicking into Moon and JUMP back without any protection and RMs. It's pretty obvious that OPM don't have "realistic" setting, but ORT lives in different settings with "realistic" rules. ORT can't just JUMP from his Mercury.
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>>138581109
It eat Earth to increase in size and match its target, but not to force death.
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>>138546857
easily Saitama since his whole characterization is to beat everything Shiki's is just to be strong for 5 seconds then die of an asthma attack
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>>138581164
Telekinesis is way below reality warping dude. Like they are not even comparable.
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Which is worse?

Saitama-fags or Nasu-fags?

They're both insufferable. Saitama meme is played out and Nasu is a fucking awful writer.
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>>138555265
That's because Nasu is a hack.
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>>138581195
And more. All Types designed to destroy planets. But in Boros fight Saitama reflected fuckin supernova. Supernova son.
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>>138546857
Shiki's mind will explode trying to look for any lines on Saitama.
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>>138581195
ORT came to Earth before Gaia's call even went out dude. I dont' think you realize how bullshit that is. And there is nothing saying ORT's UFO form is for protection as opposed to just being more convenient for travel.
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>>138581244
if saitama can brush off a planet destroying beam of energy without using his full power he can probably brush off anything else since that is the whole point of his character
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>>138580753
>Not after Grand Order
And where does it say this? We knew about her Root connection since KnK epilogue. And Nasu said that she can only put only defensive fight even with all that. Not to mention that GO Ryougi is pseudo-Servant like Mashu and she's stronger than real Ryougi
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>>138581287
Agreed. But morons actually trying to compare mememan's power level to others are worse.
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>>138580987
There are 3 physical persons named Shiki in the Nasuverse, but one has two personalities and is physically male, and another one has 3 personalities and is physically female (well, her male personality died, and the third one goes to "sleep").
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>>138556049
is this supposed to be kitamura eri incindent?
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>>138580816
At least Demonbane is stronger than real life Christian god.
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>>138580929
give me a quite from the author of the fate series which says that the fateverse physics applies to every other series on the market
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>>138581334
Read notes on pictures
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>>138581442
No that's Watamote. KitEri was Cuckoro connect if I recall.

>>138581511
Maybe I should switch religions. If I recall Demonbane > Saitama right?
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>>138581351
Goku can destroy the universe yet he is still vulnerable to sleeping poison. And reality warping is a tier above that, it's literally a Godlike power. Until Saitama fights God then claiming Saitama can resist reality warping is a no-go.
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>>138581565
>he still isn't worshipping Demonbane

Do it.
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>>138581236
saitama can destroy the earth,as was evident when his day was really messy
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>>138581308
it wasnt a supernova. No need to exaggerate for the sake of exaggeration.
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>>138581287
Both fags who used their phanatism and subculture garbage over logic.
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>>138581601
I have poor vocabulary
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>>138581410
>For those who possess this Skill, regular parameters become meaningless.

Void also defeated ghosts far stronger than Servants in FGO.

>Not to mention that GO Ryougi is pseudo-Servant

I'm talking about Void. Root connection and Amala Vijnana are both things she should have regardless of being a Servant. In the first place being a Servant doesn't give youe xtra powers it only classifies what you already have.
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>>138581573
>Until Saitama fights God
so when this does occur which it probably will at some point what will the excuse be? he is made to be unbeatable that is the whole premise of his character there are NO weaknesses which is the entire point of the series showing that sometimes life isn't fair.
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>>138581592
Alright alirght. I was considering doing it anyway. That thing looks majestic enough to worship.

>>138581601
>it wasnt a supernova
True. Maybe even stronger than a supernova. The only information we get given is that it'll destroy the planet's surface which only puts a lower limit on it's power.
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>>138581595
Grand Caster Solomon can whip out humanity, and he still is way weaker than Types (ORT), Primate Murder, and Void Shiki (who can rewrite reality).
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>>138581512
We assume both series work as intended otherwise you have Itachi saying that no one without a Mangekyou Sharingan can defeat him, therefore he can beat all of DC, Marvel, DBZ, and Tenchi Muyo or Bleach characters doing the same thing due to only things with Reiatsu being able to interact with them.
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>>138581744
And yet they will all lose to Saitama. With a single punch no less. Saitama OP nerf pls.
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>>138581664
>NO weaknesses
Had to cover his nose to avoid dying due to lack of oxygen in space.
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>>138581744
>Grand Caster Solomon can whip out humanity, and he still is way weaker than Types (ORT)
I never will able to take F/GO seriously. Jesus Christ
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>>138581534
It says nothing about UFO mode gving him protection just that it's skin is naturally more temperature resistant to anything on Earth.
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>>138581744
tons of monsters in the opm series can wipe out humanity that isn't much of an accomplishment
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>>138581784
>Implying that Void Shiki cannot alter evolution to prevent his birth
>Ignoring that Slash Emperor forces the concept of death to any being
>Ignoring the rest of the NPs that not necessarily beat him physically, but erase his existence, or turn the water and mind of his body into slime in End of Evangelion-style.
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Did Saitama ever get asked by a super ultimate life form vampire to have him make her breakfast?
I didn't think so.
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>>138581803
Type-Moon can destroy Earth, yet he was defeated by Zelretch, who is isn't the most powerful being in the entire Nasuverse... but may be he is in the Top 10.
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>>138581770
>no one without a Mangekyou Sharingan can defeat him
And yet poor lad couldn't even afford healthcare to fix his cancer. Such injustice.

>>138581824
They can do all that and they will still lose. You can kill him, stop him from being born and erase his existence and he'll still win. Goddamn he OP.
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>>138581801
Reminder Types > 7 Grand Servants = Arc's sister pet dog.
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nobdy can beat saitaman...................................... ;)
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>>138581801
>>138581910
And then there's this dude who can kill Types with a bullet. What's next, Flat killing ORT with a spoon?
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>>138581653
>Void also defeated ghosts far stronger than Servants in FGO.
She wasn't alone. Dealing final blow =/= fighting.
Also GO confirms that katana Ryougi from Araya fight was in fact Void so it's not that she can just snap her finger and kill someone
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>>138581803
Solomon didn't just kill humanity. He wiped out everything humans ever made and ever were. That's all the accomplishments, all the concepts, all the achievements, etc etc. He even killed ghosts, even the Land of Shadows outside the world, he made it so even death died.
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>>138581884
>who is isn't the most powerful being in the entire Nasuverse
some fucking highschooler can beat the greatest "hero" in existence i don't think the powerlevels mean shit in the series
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>>138581988
That's nice but Saitama would just walk up and punch him and end it since that's his whole premise. Arguing in how to beat him is irrelevant since he is basically the culmination of everything unfair put into a human body.
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>>138581976
Post F/GOshit Nasuverse will turn into full Saiyan. What a waste.
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>>138581988
Rin...Scathach...my waifus;_;

Inb4, retard, you have two waifus! Kill yourself on Suicide Watch, fuck off Reddit!
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>>138581979
>it's not that she can just snap her finger and kill someone

She might as well, her instant kill attack has the same range as Enuma Elish.

Considering her root connection making physical parameters meaningless + ranged instant kill attack and you can get why she is ranked the second strongest character in the TM World.
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>>138581988
>he's faster than Primate Murder on paper
Fuck f/go
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>>138581940
my waifu can ;)
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>>138582101
>She might as well, her instant kill attack has the same range as Enuma Elish.
Yet she couldn't instant kill Araya and needed to put some effort into her fight with him.
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>>138582140
no............
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Void Ryougi existence is big plot hole in Nasuverse universe. Counter Force should kill her by lighting bolt from sky just because it's more logical way to deal with so dangerous power. She shouldn't exist in this world.
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>>138560522
autism
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>>138582240
She totally wrecked him after going Void. What effort are you talking about?
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>>138582243
Yeah but whenever you bring anything up with Nasu his excuse is, "LOL IT JUST HAPPENED TO BREAK THE RULES THIS ONCE BECAUSE..." The more he writes the more obvious how bad he is at it as time goes by.
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we are we talking about now ?
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>>138581976
Gudako becoming patroness of gacha, which is apparently most powerful force in Nasuverse.
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Fine. I'll fucking say it.

The outcome depends on location. If it's in Saitama's world, he'll win. If it's in Shiki's world, Shiki will win instead. Both characters' strength stems from concepts that do not apply in reality as we know it, and thus the only way to determine the winner is to determine who's rules apply.

Pic semi-related - even She could win if only Her rules apply.
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>>138582461
problem is in saitamas world victory for him is guaranteed while in nasu's world victory is mostly based on plot and not ability and if they were both in nasu's world with neither benefiting from plot saitama would just win based on ability
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>>138581351
>a planet destroying beam of energy

It wasn't planet destroying.
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>>138582533
weird name for something that can't bust a planet
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>>138582592

He specifically mentioned it killing all life on Earth, not destroying the Earth.

It's a surface destroyer.
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>>138582634
good luck killing all life on earth without destroying the planet from a beam focused on one point
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>>138582461
Yeah but Saitama would launch a punch from his world which would go back in time due to it's infinite speed and then break through dimensions to hit his opponent in the other world. And every other world. At the same time.
That sounds like some TTGL shit.

>>138582634
That's just testament to his skill. He's using power that could bust a planet to only bust the surface.
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>>138582394
But she didn't end the fight with one hit. While he was losing he still dodge/block some attacks and even counter. So it's not that she can kill anything with snap of finger
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>>138582667

It's pretty possible you giant electric thundercunt, the asteroid that hit the Earth didn't outright destroy it. Life only inhabits a tiny portion of the Earth's mass, the upper crust.

There are asteroids that would peel the entire crust off like an orange if they hit without destroying the whole planet.
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>>138582667
You can if you manage to ignite our atmosphere and engulf the earth in a massive fireball. Then again, Grand Caster's NP is pretty much that so we know that Saitama is at least above Type level.
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>>138582765
you sound like a retard just trying to drum up arguments
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>>138582845

Nice refuting.
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>>138582765
>>138582805
>implying Subterraneans give a fuck about a little shade
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>>138582874
>all life on earth dead
>>138582885
>subterraneans included which aren't on the "surface"

were done here refute yourself
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>>138582674
>That's just testament to his skill. He's using power that could bust a planet to only bust the surface.

Headcanon.

The difference between a surface destroying skill and a planet busting skill is so much in power that it's worth arguing over.

>>138582885

They actually do. The only creatures that can indefinitely survive no-light would be some crabs living at the bottom of the ocean feeding on algae next to super hot lava vents.

>>138582926
>were done here refute yourself

Stupid crossboarding retard.

The asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs isn't a surface destroying asteroid. This is a surface destroying asteroid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU1QPtOZQZU
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Can Saitama punch Saber if she uses Avalon?

Can Saitama hit Meltlilith if she removes her hitbox?

Can Akhilleus Kosmos stop a punch from Saitama, or does his hits qualify as Anti-World attacks?

Does Saitama have enough Mental Resistance to avoid being brainwashed and controlled by Mata Hari?
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>>138583086
>indefinitely survive no-light
Wow so this dust storm stays there forever? That's pretty fucking impressive amounts of energy. And Saitama deflects that?

>>138583225
Yes, yes, No + yes, Yes
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>>138583225
I'm fairly sure Saitama wouldn't be able to kill servants without his fists being enchanted first, but he probably could punch Saber out of the atmosphere into high Earth orbit.
Do servants need to breath?
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>>138583267
>Wow so this dust storm stays there forever? That's pretty fucking impressive amounts of energy. And Saitama deflects that?

Nobody is talking about Saitama for this retardo.
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>>138583086
>The only creatures that can indefinitely survive no-light would be some crabs living at the bottom of the ocean feeding on algae next to super hot lava vents.
luckily that is considered life and would be killed as well thank god you came to this conclusion and can now realize the mistake in your argument
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>>138583284
>Do servants need to breath?
Not if they dematerialize.
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>>138583306
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>>138583284
we know for a fact he has aura aka life energy aka mystical equivalent across fictional verses.
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>>138583306

What's with these newfaggots coming here who don't understand sentence and point context?

You should have to have seen a certain amount of anime/manga before being able to post on this board.
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Pulling Saitama into Type-moon Universe is like putting an Ember into an Oil Rig, you're just going to overpower him completely given the rules of the universe. If Saitama is transplanted into the Type-moon universe, he will surely have infinite Prana due to his body being like God. Then you pair that up with his ridiculous willpower where he unconsciously resist the strongest Esper in the world means the moment he steps in, he can just project an infinite duration, infinite sized Reality Marble subconsciously to reinforce his OPness.
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>>138583390
dig deep into your ass anon you'll find an argument eventually till then sit on the sidelines and pout
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>>138583267
Wait, how can he punch Saber if she is removed to another dimension or someone that doesn't possess a hitbox?
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>>138583424
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Stupid match-up. Would be way more interested in Saitama vs this guy.
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>>138583390
>don't understand sentence and point context?

Huh?
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>>138582715
Not killing him instantly doesn't mean she couldn't. It's like Archetype Earth playing around with Ciel. As we see in FGO Void is playful and childish.
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>>138583434
He just can.
In terms of Nasuverse, it's a conceptual weapon that will go back in time and hit them before it happened with an infinite amount of energy and has already been fired at all his opponenets. It's like +20 Ultimate Winning Gae Bolg of Surefire Victory
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>>138583487

keh, retard.
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>>138546909
>>138547230
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>>138582805
Implying Grand Caster is Type level. No, he is not even All the Evil in the World incarnated or Primate Murder level.
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shiki rapes one meme man
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>>138583582
yfw tamamo says he's stronger than 9 tails tamamo
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>>138583422
If Souichirou Kuzuki lived in OPM's world, he would be stronger than Saitama. He spend more than 10 years training every single day of their lives to become stronger and perfect his fighting style.

The same applies to Saver or Buddha, whose training lasted way more than 3 years.
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>>138583225
>Mental Resistance to avoid being brainwashed and controlled by Mata Hari

That's not something you can shrug off with mental resistance. It's emotional manipulation, she literally makes you fall in love with her. She is comparable to Psycho Pirate from DC.

Manipulation of emotions is a pretty broken power in any medium, even in the DC shit is broken tier. If you get caught up by it you are pretty much done for. The only defense against it would be being a machine.
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>>138546857
The guy on the right looks like he was drawn from those shitty 'How to Draw Animu and Mango Horribly So That Everybody Will Know You Wear a Fedora to Bed' books. Saitama forever, you fucking squares.
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>>138583522
but how can his hit land at all? also, there's a lack of time in the far side of the moon and in avalon, so no time travel is allowed.
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>>138583625
She said they are on the same level since 9 Tailed can destroy the world.
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>>138583671
There are people who trained harder than Saitama in OPM. It's not the amount of reps that made him strong. I bet it's the no AC.

>>138583738
It'll hit the faggot fairies before they built the damn shield then continue and hit her in her mom's womb.
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>>138583703
>Servants without mental resistance Skills can also be targeted.
Well, this part implies that Mental Resistance is the key to avoid falling prey of Mata Hari. But again, this is a fan-translation... because Type-Moon doesn't care for westerners.
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>>138583517
>Facing the mage, she closes her eyes and nods in understanding. “Now I know,” she says softly. “I don’t really want to kill you. It’s just that I can’t stand the thought of you existing.” Her last thoughts for Tomoe’s killer. The scent of murder is high in the air, and both Alaya and Shiki smell it, letting it pass over their entirety in one sweet instant. In the next, the invisible signal for battle is given, and the duel begins.
She wanted to erase Tomoe’s killer as fast as possible. It was like AE vs Roa rather than AE vs Ciel
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>>138583703
>humans are special snowflakes with emotions
Give it up human. Your emotions are not some mystical quality that cannot be emulated eventually. AlphaGo is the herald of the new world.
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>>138583815
Ok, that's for Avalon, but what about Meltlilith? Though, I still don't buy the answer for punching someone in Avalon.
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>>138583671
Did he start out as an ordinary human that did an impossible training set for 3 years straight despite by all reasons that it should have killed him? It's already pointed out that there are others who trained harder than he did but never became godlike

>>138583703
Dude feels so fucking detached from humanity that he barely cares about civilians except for his hobby as a hero. If he could actually feel love for the first time, his erection would split the planet in two.
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>>138583815
>I bet it's the no AC.
But there were no ACs in Buddha's lifetime and Souichiro spend most of his life training in a secluded forest with no AC.
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>>138583921
>Dude feels so fucking detached from humanity
But that's wrong.
Saitama seems all sorts of arbitrary, but when Rider was fighting the fish faggot, Saitama actually went and told him he did well, despite being smacked around like a bitch.
He just seems to not care about collateral damage.
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>>138583917
Travel back in time. Punch the moon before they started that retarded shit which led to the stream of spin off games that I don't have time to follow.

>>138584019
They didn't have ACs whereas Saitama had one and chose not to use it. Supreme mental fortitude.
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>>138583815
No, it will not. Avalon is literally can't be pierced by anything, no matter what it is. It was created by a author as a ultimate defense, that is unbeatable, it is it's whole meaning. Avalon can't be pierced no matter what, no matter what bullshit it faces.
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>>138583921
>he barely cares about civilians except for his hobby as a hero. If he could actually feel love
He has showed emotions and concern for others. Also, how can anyone not feel love for this hottie?
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>>138583877
I don't think that was Void. Void wouldn't act on human emotions.
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>>138583225
Can Shiki kill servants?
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>>138584105
Reminder that Saitama almost dies due to lack of oxygen in space and cannot travel through time if he is on the Far Side of the Moon, because there is no time to begin with.
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>>138584128
Likewise, Saitama is made to defeat everything with one punch (if he so chooses). They belong in different universes, with different rules; you can't compare them across fiction.

I don't know why you fuckers keep taking arguments like these seriously.
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>>138584178
He can rape them.
And rape is worse than death™.
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>>138584212
>Reminder that Saitama almost dies due to lack of oxygen in space
But he doesn't.
In fact, he went "Oh, I guess I can't breath here!" while on the moon.
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>>138551495
I don't even touch fate and even I know who Shiki is. Step the fuck up.
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I remember thinking Fart shit night and it's spinoffs were better than powerlevel shit. Now I realise it's just powerlevels with heaps of pretense and laugh at my past self.

>>138584178
Yes.
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>>138584132
She is top tier waifu in terms of personality too.
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>>138561307
>fucktard
What's it like being 12?
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>>138551539
I was an oldfag who went on hiatus for about 10 years so give me a break if I don't know the guy on the right
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>Weekend /a/

Never again
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>>138548535
Shiki losing would probably be funnier so that would be the outcome. Same would happen if he fought bobobo or arale. Bobobo would actually probably be the most entertaining of the fights though
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>>138576523
Miyuverse Shirou doesn't seem to. In fact, Miyuverse Shirou seems to be some sort of abomination fused with all his previous incarnations that's both broken and weak as shit.
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>>138584173
>Void wouldn't act on human emotions.
You said yourself that in FGO Void is playful and childish she can act on human emotions.
Anyway it was Void. 3rd persona awoken and took place of unconscious Ryougi
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>>138584606
Yeah, but I don't think she would be mad about something. It's OOC as fuck. Either way she has a ranged instant-kill, so all I can say is that for some reason she decided to fight Araya close quarters.
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>>138584861
>OOC as fuck
>OOC in original story written by Nasu
It's OOC only for your headcanon
>ranged instant-kill
Attack animation shows that she charge enemy and cut his line and then it "spreads" on other targets. That's just my guess but I think she needs to cut one line normally and only then, up to 64 targets within range will be affected
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Which move gets priority?
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>>138585569
FOOT DIVE
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>>138585543
>Attack animation

Attack animations aren't canon. Unless you want to believe Caligula summons a moon in the middle of the day.

>headcanon bullshit

No. The 64 thing is a reference to the Buddhist hell. No reason she'll have to cut something to kill something else completely unrelated, specially when it's considered anti-unit.
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>>138585569
Shiki gets invincible frames during Arc Drive.
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I'm pretty sure Fragarach can defeat Saitama due to how broken it is
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>>138586012
Saitama would have to actually get legitimately serious for it to work properly though.
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>>138586012
Nah, Saitama's punches aren't superpowered, they're his ordinary punches.
In fact, a punch that doesn't kill is just a very weak slap.
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Is One Punch Man better than Tsukihime?
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>>138586128
Fragarach doesn't work off Superpowers, it works off Trump Cards. Which in Saitama's case would be an actual legitimate 100% serious punch.
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>>138585752
They could make it look like range attack if they wanted but they didn't. This plus the fact that she didn't kill Araya from the distance makes me doubtful. But of course we don't know for sure until Nasu explain it
>Unless you want to believe Caligula summons a moon in the middle of the day.
It could work as Reality Marble.
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>>138586169
no
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>>138586169
maybe
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I'm still subscribing to the opinion that this question loses all meaning if you detach the characters from their tropes.
Saitama is Saitama because he is supposed to win every single time, which means he always wins even if karmic comic elements are used as conduit for this result, which in turn means he has plot armor.
Does Shiki have one of these as well? If so, the fight stalls.
If not, Saitama eventually lands a punch, therefore winning.
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>>138586711
>Does Shiki have one of these as well?
he has the most op power in fiction
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>>138586987

No he doesn't.
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>>138586987
She isn't the strongest either, she was just the first person I thought of stronger than Shiki.
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>>138586987
No, characters with absolute omnipotence have so since by definition nothing can challenge them and they can literally do anything and everything, regardless of possible logical and causality constraints
In anime one example of such character would've been Haruri.
Shiki does not qualify
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>all these salty niggers sperging out when someone doesn't so much as glance at the Fatefag series
You're the real cancer.
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>>138587629
Gr8 b8 m8, a little late though
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>>138586987
Mate, we aren't talking about shiki, we're talking about shiki
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Shiki is, and will always be a better character than Saitama regardless of if he can beat him or not.
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