Railgun S3, Saten BS saves her, would you be happy or mad?
>literal meme character that's more annoying than funny
>rehashed blonde girl number ten thousand
>backstabbing whore and a coward despite being cocky and arrogant
>better than anyone
>Frendafags are this delusional
It's already established as an alternate timeline and Nagai's Misaka is a completely different personality archetype from Kamachi's Misaka. Even during the sister's arc I was cringing every time she had to interact with the slut brigade.
It isn't an alternate timeline the anime just doesn't care about timelines or how characters act they only do what is needed for the ep. Kamachi clearly cares enough to figure it all out but can only do that on works he controls.
>It isn't an alternate timeline the anime just doesn't care about timelines
How the FUCK is that not an alternate timeline?
A significant portion of the Railgun anime goes against important canonical events and characterizations, it's definitely an AU.
>thinking its a different timeline when kamachi works on the railgun manga as well
Also who the fuck would want GUTS' finally getting some screen time being a part of an alternate timeline?
Nothing. The manga is covering a story 3 days before the battle royale and giving frenda some characterization, but that's about it. Her fate is the same.
To make an alternate timeline someone would have to care enough to make a timeline. Railgun manga is in the same timeline as the LN. The idol manga is an alternate timeline/universe. The anime is just animating stuff from the book and manga and so multiple events can happen on the same day as they add side stories fillers and OVAs. Some authors care about these things and others don't.
The canon timeline is the LN/Railgun manga, the Index anime (mostly) follows that.
>kamachi works on the railgun manga
He provides the outline, a lot of stuff is added by Fuyukawa (eg Gunha). The manga doesn't really contradict the LNs, but the anime which takes great liberties with the source material which is where the problems start.
I wonder if they're going to censor the violence next season.
An alternate timeline would be neat, but it would require a lot more than simply keeping frenda alive to justify having one. Some other major characters dying off, a change of protagonists, etc.
Anyways, some people forget that aleister intended for certain people to die in the battle royale, including frenda. If she managed to survive, the dark side would have come after her just like they did with hamazura.
Aleister's plans are hard to pin down as they always end with him winning. It seems after Battle Royal controls two level 5s and the only thing that wasn't supposed to happen was Hamazura surviving
Frenda is a whore who would sell her body for mackerel
Prove me wrong faggits
>Implying that's bait and not just /leddit/ faggotry though
Literally nobody cares. NT is doing worse and worse with every volume. Nobody cares about it anymore.
At this point Railgun manga breaks 300k with every new volume while Index novels struggle to hit 100k.
That means 2/3 of Railgun fanbase don't give a crap about Index.
It sells around 100k in the first week and come out at least 3 times a year. Railgun comes out once a year and sells 300k. Books and manga sell different amounts but they are both doing very well at a time when sales are overall down.
I have a crack theory if anyone is willing to listen.
The reason that kamachi keeps going back to frenda as seen in NT12 and the railgun manga is because she will be revived. Her body was never seen by hamazura and the rest of ITEM after v15 so academy city must have retrieved it. The dark matter shit they took from kakine is also way too convenient and is being used all over the place, so I think her preserved body will be combined with dark matter and she'll return to get her "revenge" on ITEM.
That...actually seems plausible. They've really pulled out a lot of Dark Matter bullshit in the series so that seems possible. Hell, even the conflict in NT14 was conjured up because of Dark Matter.
Very possible something like could be done figure they will also have time travel at some point too so if Kamachi really wanted to bring her back he could. However her death is much more importance on how it impacts ITEM compared to her actually returning.
Probably never going to happen. You can enjoy futa mikoto mindbreaking frenda instead.
Do you have one for mugino? Frenda can't get all the attention.
What's the point? She isn't even half as good as Frenda.
>Saten uses level upper
>controls leaves and wind currents
>mfw the reality is that she has control of tensors, which include vectors
>mfw she will be the first esper to reach level 6
She really is the best girl because she has so much potential to grow.
I want to
hugher so hard.
I wasn't around for when railgun S was airing, what was the raildex fanbase' opinion on ITEM's anime appearance?
I was pretty disappointed on how bland Saiai was compared to the index novels. Hopefully she gets some love next time.
>but he's a whiny bitch.
Yeah it's bad enough we gotta deal with this guy.
Man I fucking hate him. Not sure what Misaka sees in him. He is the biggest faggot I have ever seen in an anime.
>Waaah I hate my harem
>Waaah they're all being manipulated by Magic Gods
>Waaah I never wanted this power
>Waaah I'm just a normal high school boy
Kamisato is way more obnoxious about it.
Touma has long accepted his situation and knows he just wants to save people and shit.
>Current Railgun manga is most likely going to show the scene of SCHOOL capturing her and what happened that led her to spill the beans
Mugino's crime of killing her is going to worsen.
Poor Saten and Mugino ;_;
>Nearly killed one of the Birdway sisters
>Beat to death best doge
I don't really hate him, I'm actually interested to see what he does. But most people agreed he was being whiny and as Touma said, he really is just a rookie in how to handle these situations.
>Nearly killed one of the Birdway sisters
More like tried to get them some more time, something that Touma doesn't know the meaning of
>DURTR I'M TOUMA I'LL DO SOMETHING THAT I BARELY THOUGHT ABOUT RIGHT THE FUCK NOW DURRR
>Beat to death best doge
Defended himself against a dog that attacked him while he himself was beaten beyond oblivion.
As cool as that theory sounds, my issue with it is that if Kamachi was going to go with that, he'd have brought back the real Frenda to fuck with Mugino and Shiggy during the Ichihanaransai arc in New Testament instead of some goon Photoshopped to look like her.
Touma brought out a 3rd option that would save both of the sisters. Kamisato's best idea was that Patricia would remain a lifeless vegetable for the rest of her life. Kamisato himself even agreed and went with Touma's plan. Touma was more smarter and thought about the resources he had in hand that he could use when he observed Claire's powers.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
To me, Touma felt off his game in NT14. He seemed to have decided beforehand to shrug off any attempt to empathize with Kakeru's plight because of a combination of primal fear of something that could take out even Magic Gods with ease and of the fear of losing Othinus. That completely overrode even his moralfaggotry.
I wouldn't say he didn't emphathize with Kamisato. Touma just tried to get Kamisato to be more accepting of his situation that he was paranoid of. Hell, they even worked together to try to resolve the Birdway situation. The only time when he didn't empathize with Kamisato was when Touma saw that Kamisato still didn't like Magic Gods even after seeing Nep's sacrifice.
Reminder that Kamijou Touma is the kind of normal high school boy you can find anywhere.
>mfw I thought frenda was mugino's version of kuroko only to read volume 15 and witness her get butchered
I'm on that saiai and birdway train now but frenda had potential.
It wasn't the timeline we were annoyed about.
It was the fact that a non-canon joke omake was inserted into the story as canon and the characterization that was broken as a result.
Episode 17. It makes mugino to be a lot nicer than she was in index. She probably would have blown away the restaraunt if she saw mikoto there.
I think that's wrong. I don't dislike Frenda myself, but Kamachi's narrative monologue about her in NT12 makes it clear that she was indeed the kind of girl who'd willingly betray her friends in order to save her own skin.
But it doesn't explain how mugino found frenda so quickly after the battle with kakine.
What I'm thinking is that her time with saten somehow influenced her to not betray and resist kakine instead, only to have the information taken anyways. NT12's explanation is only half of the story.
She must have tried to reach mugino and explain herself. That's just my theory though, maybe they'll stick with the current train of thought and have frenda actually betray them.
Lessar in railgun when? Are they even going to animate the railgun side stories?
They'd be great for a couple of episodes. Better than having anime-only shit like the silent party arc.
Which one? He barely shows up in what would be the next Railgun season. He is more prominent in what would be Index S3 (assuming it's volumes 14-19 and then SS2), but it's still pretty much 60% Touma, 20% Accel, 20% Hamazura. Not really stealing the show.
Why did kamachi kill her off anyways if he's going to give her so much attention in NT and railgun? Does he regret doing so?
I wouldn't say she's an amazing character like that other anon but a level 0 that can hold her own against a level 5 and other strong espers is pretty rare. Touma's got IB and Hamazura has some hidden luck or something, but frenda just had her bombs and wits.
>I don't think the accelerator manga is worth animating though.
It will work on anime, it's as montly release that isn't doing it because you can compress them in your mind each chapter and time wise in story the time hasn't gone past 2 hourse.
Pointless however as she is dead.
Which leads me to think isn't Kamachi's decision but those working with him.
>Shopping Mall Demonstration was a complete clusterfuck whose only element of value was Mikoto and New Light interactions
>Kamachi writes it as if Lessar and Mikoto forgot about each other when they finally meet again
Specifically he said
>I wasn’t exactly hiding it, but when I created Frenda Seivelun in Old Testament 15, I asked Haimura-san to make her extremely cute so no one would immediately peg her as the character who would die. …But that made her one of the most popular characters even among the massive number of characters in this series, so I could not help but realize this was the work of a true professional illustrator.
>And so I have defined Frenda as a character that is neither good nor evil. That may be quite a rare position in this series. Since we generally see her working on the dark side, she may seem more weighted on the evil side, but I think she has a number of different sides to her that are all of equal weight. If you start wondering where exactly she wanted to return to so badly that she was willing to betray Mugino, Takitsubo, and Kinuhata in Old Testament 15, you might be able to imagine a side of Frenda that isn’t pure evil.
>Then again, I learned after the fact just how powerful a trait “a beautiful but dead girl” is. There really is a lot to learn about constructing characters.
I enjoy her character, but her death can't be helped. Since she isn't alive anymore, puns about her death is what keeps her alive for us.
It's nice that Kamachi is spending time developing her in Railgun. I think he's kind of regrets killing her. Oh well.
Frenda's death was originally nothing more than fodder removal in the Battle Royale, like the Boy with Goggles. The puns are the only thing that kept her in the memory of the fanbase.
It's mostly based on that AC is something like 50-60 years old, we know there was a previous generation of Espers, but we haven't seen any Espers older than their early 20s (and even then we only know about them because we know there are University age Espers).
Course I think it's also mentioned that this is the first generation of Level 5s, so maybe the older generations are just weak as shit and not considered important.
> If you start wondering where exactly she wanted to return to so badly that she was willing to betray Mugino, Takitsubo, and Kinuhata in Old Testament 15, you might be able to imagine a side of Frenda that isn’t pure evil.
>she had a mackerel party with Saten that night
Friendly reminder that literally everyone will forget frenda as soon as pic related is animated.
Eh, I like Birdway a lot but she and Frenda are in different veins. Frenda is the science side cute, genki girl while Birdway is the sadistic, tsundere magic cabal boss imouto.
That said, I hope the SP manga story gets animated in Index 3 so we can see her animated.
The tears of Frendafags when she gets BTFO in Index III will be so delicious.
Probably not, that scene isn't written to make anyone cry just oh crap Hamazura is going to get killed he better run. Feel like tears over Frenda might happen only if railgun shows that part.
To be fair to Mikoto and Lessar, unlike Touma, who goes on world-saving adventures on a near daily basis and meets up with people frequently and soon, I presume a significant amount of time has passed since their last meeting. Considering both of them are busy with other stuff and they didn't really leave a huge impression on each other's mind, it's not so hard to believe they just forgotten about each other.
Yes and to get to NT need to first make season 3/4 of both railgun and Index and probably will also animate Accel, would be great to happen but that feels like a long way off.
There is black magic in Islam so it's definitely doable.
They have no reason to animate it. They're already milking the series already, if they continue the anime despite LN sales being high, at that point, they're just killing the goose that's laying the golden egg. In the end, it's still a business and willingly crashing your own market is a very stupid thing to do.
The fact that Mugino has the same voice as Holo makes her best girl by default
Before reading the index LN she's top tier. After reading, it's a different story. Especially that one passage in volume 19.
>Touma and Fukiyose have canonically slept in the same bed together
>implying she can't be persuaded/isn't secretly bi
Kuroko is definitely Bi. Bi-Misaka/Toumasexual.
Mikoto did that because she wants him to railgun her while Kuroko did it because she wants Mikoto to railgun her with a strapon.
Dropkick was after daiheisai, saving was before daiheisai.
Oh boy engaging Raildex conversations with "regulars"
It's a raildex thread alright
These threads will never get old for me.
>can barely handle frenda, a shitty level 0 that just uses explosives
If brunhild actually gave a fuck mikoto would be finished. Espers need a serious boost because they're way behind the magic side besides accelerator.
It's not like Accelerator could beat every saint. He could even lose to a normal magician if they use some sort of curse or attack using stuff that doesn't follow the laws of the universe (Awass).
Heck he doesn't have any magic resistance, he could even lose to the card that took out Fukiose.