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New PV out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IauR3QlFsz4

Looking pretty good so far.
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Give me an unbiased opinion, is the source material for this adaptation good or bad?
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>>135098769

With all the side material incorporated, it's amazing. If you restrict yourself purely to Vol 1-7, it's OK. Requiem and BiS is almost a requirement if you want to get the full story. Some characters (like Sylwia, Gretel, and Beatrix) go from absolutely unlikable cunts to top tier waifus when you know their backstories.

Hopefully the anime will find some way to fit that shit in.
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The mechas look lame as fuck.
Why can't they be using Raptors
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>>135099126
Cause its the 80s and they are Dirty Commies.
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>>135099126

The MiG-21 is meant to look lame to show how outmatched they are against the newer designs.
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>>135098769
>Muv-Luv
what do you think
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they're not like that all the time are they
wheres my cheesy bantz
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Irisdina>Pham>Kirke>Lise>Katia>Mirai>Annete>Sylwia>ViVi>Gretel>>>>>>>>>>>shit>>>>>>>>>>Beatrix

>>135099594

Iris likes to tell jokes to lighten things up, so you'll get some "cheesy bantz."
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>>135097895
>Looking pretty good so far.

Yeah it looks like shit. Muv-Luv anime is shit.
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>>135099655

Beatrix is a sociopath, slut, and all around cunt. Runs concentrations camps, gets off on torturing people, and shoots babies. The only reason she has fans is because she's hot.

Iris is by far the better package. She may not by an 11/9 like Beatrix, but she's still a real looker, is funnier, more intelligent, has a better personality, more interesting and charismatic, and is just all around best girl.

There's a reason why everyone whose played the VN are all Irisfags.
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>>135100011
Beatrix just turned like that because her backstabbing former friend killed her husbando.
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>>135100646

>implying Beatrix wasn't the backstabber

I just don't see Iris willingly selling out her bro. Also, you don't reach Beatrix's level of evil without already being a few screws loose to begin with. Beatrix was always a monster, it just lay in dormant until the stasi gave it a chance to surface.
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The girls are hot and even the MC is pretty good looking.

I'll at least pick it up for the chara design.
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>>135101389

I'd fuck Theo, no homo.
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>>135100011

Reading all the shit Beatrix does is pretty rage inducing. How could anyone waifu her is beyond me.
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>>135097895
All that I'm hoping for is that it doesn't turn out to be total shit.
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>>135101510
he's pretty cute.

I wish more MC would look that good.
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>>135097895
Will it be as atrocious as Alternative?
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>>135101905

You don't like Alt? That's like the high point of the series.
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>>135101905
You mean TE?
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>>135101968
Yes
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>>135101968

Should be better. Unlike TE, the source material is actually workable.
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Dead thread, dead franchise, dead waifus
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>>135102165
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Holy shit, where did all the Beatrix haters come from? It's like watching Esdesu's rise and fall, except the anime hasn't even come out yet.
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>>135102549
Missed these threads
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>>135102661

Yeah, you did.
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>>135102661
>>135102755
Welcome back lads
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>>135102165
>dead waifus
Wouldn't be Muv Luv otherwise
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>>135102755
Tadaima
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>>135103099

Not posting the colored version.
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Imagine if the series had sex scenes.
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>>135102755
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>>135103166
R-16
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I like Theo's voice. It really suits him.

Who else was voiced by him?
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>>135103166

Most you'll get in SM is kissu scenes and RAPE.
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>>135097895
This trailer isn't giving me a lot of faith (although I didn't have much to begin with because of Linden Films). Hopefully it doesn't turn out as bad as TE.
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>>135103216
I just hope he gets paid, unlike Yuuya's
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>>135103149
Not keeping the better pictures in Reserve, for when a thread need bumping.
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>>135103216
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>schwaken
Why did they shorten it like that.
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>>135103216

Here's a voice chart.
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>>135103348
>KenSuzu
>No MaayaSaka casted elsewhere
ONE JOB KOUKI
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>>135103197
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>>135101510
Holy fuck far left is god tier.
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>childhood friend trope again
I bet she's uguuu autist
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>>135103279
Who is this handsome man?
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>>135103486

Who are you talking about? Only childhood friends I can think of is:

Annete-Inghihilde
Iris-Beato
Jurg-Beato

Unless you mean Theo-Lise, but they're adopted siblings, not childhood friends.
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>>135103348
>Kirke
Kill me.
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Happy Holidays maburabus
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>>135103575
Blonde girl who get slapped in trailer is not childhood friend or autist?
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>>135103279
As always, subtle as fuck age.
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>>135103406
But that would've confirmed a canon love interest for Theo.
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>>135102550
>>135103149
>>135103220
>>135103099

Your waifu is one of the most vile people in all of animu.

Hope you know that.

;)

>>135103775

That's Katia. She's not a childhood friend, but definitely the token Moe.

>>135103978

Theo's canon love is Iris.
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>>135097895
Is she best girl? She sure looks like it
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>>135097895
So I heard Grappler-kun finally scores in this.

Also nice that there's an actual sizable number of tanks in there unlike TE.
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Remember when scanfag was going to do the Anthology? Me neither,
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>>135104050
>those scissors
What the fuck? Australia?
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>>135104036
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>>135104082
EMT shit i think.
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Theo is best Muv-Luv boy.

Prove me wrong.

Anyone who disagrees is a disgusting waifufag still mad that best boy did what had to be done.
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>>135104016

She's absolute shit tier. Think Esdesu, but without any of the charm and played straight. Really takes something to be the fucking hottest girl in the cast and still be the most repulsive.
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>>135097895
fuck that.

give me Total Eclipse.
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>>135104174
Nope.
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>>135104133

I'll take Maburabu's version of a Char
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>>135104133
Not Walter or Abe-kun?
Those dubs are wasted on you.
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>>135104174
>TE
Worst shit. Schwarwatever was last best thing in MuvLuv.
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>>135104161
>Think Esdesu, but without any of the charm and played straight.
There's 0 charm in Esdese. And Beatrix is hotter by a landslide.
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>>135104203
Too bad he didn't have enough brains to to survive being purged like Char did (that's how he became a CHAR to begin with).
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I thought this side story was edgy even by muv luv standards. Give it to me straight how many waifus die.
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>>135104161
Why is she so bad
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>>135104257
All of them except 2 or 3, can't even be bothered to count.
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>>135104257
>>135104285
All except one
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>>135104133

Beatofags are scum; what do you expect.

>>135104235

Hotter, yeah, but also way more evil.

>>135104240

His big mistake was dating a sociopath.
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>>135104161
>Esdeath
>charm

She has ridiculously shitty design, so Beatrix already wins there by far. She also comes with a dumb backstory, which makes for an all-around unappealing character.
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>>135104285
>>135104257
>>135104317
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>>135104328
>but also way more evil.
They're on the same level, and at least I can stomach it in Muv Luv. AgK just makes me laugh from how stupidly idiotic the writing is on every aspect. Schwarzesmarken is by no means fantastic or anything like that, but don't even compare it to the absolute bottom tier trash that is AgK.
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>>135104411
>mc love interest gets killed AGAIN

DROPED
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>>135104558
Muv Luv is in the title you nigger. If you expect anything less then it's your fault.
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>>135104629
Yeah but it happens every fucking time, mix it up a bit. Shit is predictably tragic so no longer compelling.
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>>135104482

Beatrix is played straight, so she comes off as more evil. Sure, Esdeath does a lot of the same shit, but her actions and the setting itself are so over the top it's almost funny. Beatrix also doesn't really get any scenes to humanize her. Every time she pops up, she just get's worse and worse.
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>>135104341

Beatrix is probably more compelling as a character/ main villain, but is definitely a worse human being.
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>>135104629
TDA was massive fuckup in that sense. It's the biggest failure out of all the settings yet no bloody waifu die.
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>>135104882
Doesn't TDA disappear when Takeru dies?
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>>135104882
Give it some time, TDA's finale will be bloody as hell.
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>>135098769
I cant say that it is good or bad, I just know that it is /k/
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>>135104720
>>135104779

The difference is that Takahiro designed Esdeath to be kinda likable (arguable if he actually succeeded). Beatrix is meant to be a hatesink, like Nui was in KLK.

>>135104271

Look at that little smirk she gives as she executes the prisoner in OP's PV and tell me that's not the smile of a completely evil person.

>no deeper motivation, just wants to hurt people
>probably helps run the stasi concentration camps
>petty and jealous, begrudges Irisdina for years because Iris made better scores than her when they were at the academy.
>tries to ruin Iris and all her friends because of above
>willing to shoot unarmed civvies with her TSF
>mentally tortures Theo first chance she gets just because
>wants to have a 15 year old girl tortured just because muh suspicions
>is a cunt to absolutely everybody, so much so even her boss tries to get her killed
>manipulates Lise's link to her Theo to spy on the 666, knowing that the stress would probably drive her subordinate mad
>uses her subordinates to get false info to the rebels, knowing that they'd likely be captured so she could spring her trap
>likely had Pham and Sylwia raped, along with having Walter's bones folded

But at least she's sexy, right?
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>>135105207
>Oder Neisse
You want to trigger the Germans, don't you?
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>>135104036
>scores
Assists don't count as points, anon.
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Spoiler for the first casualty.

;_; . Fucking East Germans, don't know how to look after waifus.
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>>135105533
Poles are joining that defense line as well. Hence the fucked up grammar of the "Schwarze Marken" (ie. explained by the story that some Commie Pole officer butchered the German language to create the nickname for the 666th Squadron, which earned fame and hate after years of combat at that defensive line)
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>>135105697

That's Kurt's waifu, the QT Ukrainian.
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why does sm have so much rape?

raped by beta = ok
raped by humans = NOT OK
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Sounds like plot from Wargame.
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>>135105804

Because Axmann and Beatrix like it that way.
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Why is Stasi-chan so good.
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>>135106003

The only positive she has is that she's hot. There are far superior girls in the cast if you're willing to look beyond appearances. Iris is obviously best, but if you want a girl who is nearly as hot and not the worse thing since Hitler, you're better off with Sylwia.
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Why do they need some many stories of the same thing? Humanity is doomed no matter what, so why do they need to just keep making more of this shit? The girls are the only somewhat decent thing, but jesus christ the same face in all of this is horrendous.
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>>135106116

Haha, no.
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>>135106094
Sylwia is great rape bait.
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>>135106116

>Humanity is doomed no matter what

This isn't 40k.
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>>135105327
But Nui was best girl with a depressingly sad backstory and doomed to a tragic end, also voiced by Yukarin. Will the studios ever stop bullying her?
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>>135106201

No, nothing will ever happen in 40k because sales.
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>>135106116
>Humanity is doomed no matter what
What? There was almost an UNDERSTANDING end in Alternative, but then Meiya sliced that down. Still managed to kill the Superior though, so they'll be able to take out the rest of the baters.
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>all these Beatrix shitters

I'm surprised /a/'s just taking this lying down. I place faith in Cookie, and if Cookie's favorite SM is Beato, than she's clearly more than just a raging, mindless psycho like these haters are saying.
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>>135106338
>than she's clearly more than just a raging, mindless psycho

Well, she's certainly not mindless.
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>>135106094
mmm... used goods, but still good.
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>>135103348
Seems a lot less big time than the TE voices.
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>>135106479

TE voices didn't become big time until after TE.
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>>135103348
>Sougo and ORENJI

This pleases me greatly.
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>>135104882
That one girl who was in Hibiki's squad in the flashback and that one girl who was in his squad at the beginning of episode 1 both died
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>>135103348
>Not showing The Master with Theo
C'mon.
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>>135106550

Why, they're the same person.
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>>135106595
Because The Master hasn't actually been called Theo yet, and he's sexier. No homo.
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>>135106656

They even wear the same clothes.
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>>135106656
It makes sense tough. If I had a waifu as sexy as iris and they killed her I would take revenge someway.
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>>135106730

Theo killed the canonically hottest grill though.
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My waifu is the platoon commander who was eaten by a tank in the first chapter of the novel.

I want to gift her my Type 56, since she died because her MPi-K jammed.
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>>135106705
Oh shit
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Good lord, the Irisfags are out for blood today.
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>>135106836
He plunged his hot, thick slab right into that slut.
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Posting TSFs from the official website.

Interesting how they try to use shading and lines to make it look vaguely 2-dimensional
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>>135107149
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>>135107149
>>135107192

Still looks better than TE
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>>135099209
>>135107192
inb4 people call the Bundeswehr "nazis"
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>>135107146

I guess she couldn't handle his girth.
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>>135107149
They look great. Once again the CG is going to be the only thing that looks good out of the VN.
Fuck >Liden Films and all those low tier studios seriously.
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>>135107308
U-S-A! U-S-A!
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>>135107261
GNAZEEE!
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>>135107343
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>>135107342
>Liden Films
Can put out some fantastic openings and first impressions, at least.
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>>135107388
USA! USA! USA! USA!
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So we finally got an ass shot of Beatrix courtesy of the official anime art/design book. With that in mind, we can sit down and talk about what's truly important:

>How many babies?
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>>135106836
Getting killed by a human is getting off pretty easy
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>>135107085
Our waifu died. We demand retribution.
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>>135107572
all of them
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>>135107617

Not really. Getting disemboweled is a pretty shitty way to die. She lived long enough after the penetration to realize what was happening and have a final talk with Theo
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>>135107407
What do you mean?
I doubt they ever made anything good.
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>>135107734
Still better than raped, disemboweled, crushed, and then eaten
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>>135107839
Arslan and Terra Formars (Which are both getting second seasons by them).
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>>135106595
Remember when people were still in denial before the recent VA reveal? Good times.
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>>135107891
So nothing good.
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>>135107981
You've gotta me squidding me if you think they didn't have good first episodes and openings.
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>>135107572

Looks like Yui finally has some competition because that is one delicious ass. Guess the LN wasn't lying when it was basically calling her Venus in mortal form.
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>>135108062
But Terra was horrible from the start
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>>135107617

Almost everyone in the cast ends up killing, and dying to other humans.
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>>135108126
No.
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>>135107572

>not scrounging 2ch for the full size

Pleb.

Now then, how many fucking babies?
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>>135108612
>>135107572
First generation TSFs have always had fat asses and thunder thighs.
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>>135108612

I don't think I could. I'd ejaculate before I'd even got to the penetration.
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>>135108612
I'd multiply and be fruitful with Irisdina.
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>>135102165
>Dead franchise
;_;
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>>135107343
I want a Maverick cameo
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>>135108612

>dat rear
>dat face fondling
>dat smirk
>dem poses
>dat distressed look on Irisdina's face

Unf

>>135108853

Why not have a bit of heaven and a bit of hell, anon?
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Why did they have to change studios? Why not just reuse the resources with Satelight from TE?
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>>135108346
Back before TE aired we got lots of magazine scans. Not anymore?
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>>135109108
Could be because of money. Could be because Satelight is busy with Macross Delta. Who can say?
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>>135109151

We're not getting much of anything unfortunately.
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>>135109108
>>135109206
Satelight is too embarrassed to even have anything to do with Muv Luv after that TE fiascos
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>>135109151
Presumably all the Chinese scanners have been arrested.
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>>135109151
Did you see those design?
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I have a good feeling about this adaptation, friends.
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but really, what is the point of SM, when it covers absolutely nothing important historically
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>>135109479
Master's development.
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>>135109556
but TE sucked, and he was a nonfactor in alternative, so what can he possibly do
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>>135109647
You just need to wait for Alt2.
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We can all agree that this series will be very fun, right?
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>>135109821

SM is good, but it definately isn't fun; unless you're a Kirkefag, then you get to laugh your ass off at those crazy Ossies.
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>>135109821
Depends on what you consider fun
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Best girl. Not even German, I guess that says something about East Germans.

They suck dick. West Germany for life, mates.
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>>135109995
There is no Ost, there is not West, there is only Deutschland.
Soweit die deutsche Zunge klingt und Gott im Himmel Lieder singt, das soll es sein.
Das ganze Deutschland soll es sein.
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>>135106656
So basically you're trying to say since Iris is dead, he had to settle with Katia, but shit happened in Germany and sent their only daughter to Japan but died because of an invasion too. Katia died, Theo finally lost everything, and then on top of that he found out Yuuko is playing with his daughter's brain. So he helped spear Alternative V because fuck this Earth. He let the HSST drop but failed. He then died a horrible death similar to Ingrid's after being hunted down by Mikoto's dad which is why they stopped interfering after Alternative IV came into fruition.
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>>135110028
Kill yourself Bernd, 2bh.
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>>135110039
Yeah, I guess so.
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Shame he becomes a terrorist, would've been a pretty good MC otherwise.

>>135110028
Get fucked, commie scum. You're no kamerad of mein.
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>>135110128
Having dead waifus is no joke
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>>135110128

Beatrix was a pretty awesome heroine until she became a secret policewoman.
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>>135110128
>commie scum
The fuck are you on about?
A unified Germany has been the dream since the 19th century.
It is still not granted.
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Was Hitler right
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>>135110128
Theo is entertaining.
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>>135107085
>that image
>not remembering BETTER DEAD THAN RED vs. JAPANESE DOLL
>being so new that you didn't watch the TE anime with /a/
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Will there be chomping?
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>>135110240

Isn't Jurgen a pedo for dating a girl 3-4 years younger than him when he's around 17-18?
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>>135110378

Most of the grils get penetrated, not chomped. There's still a few who die to more traditional ML means though.

>>135110354

Dude, the anime hasn't even started and it's this bad. Beato and Iris are also way better opposites/foils than Yui and Cryska, not to mention they're actively trying to kill one another.
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>>135109821
Hopefully.
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>>135110678
>America
>Shiranui Type-2
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>>135110612
That doesn't take away from the fact that right before TE's VN was released, the waifu wars were vicious. You probably just don't remember that you newshit.
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>>135110784

Nah, I just stayed outta the threads. I've been on and off of here since '07.
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>>135110678
You're still making gifs after all these years?
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>>135110784

Beatrix isn't even in the running for Theo's CIWS, which makes it all the funnier. I'm pretty sure Cryska wasn't getting called the "worse thing since Stalin", nor were there comments mentioning how Yui should never have been born. The reason why it doesn't seem so bad is that the Beatofags aren't very confrontational (probably because many of them waifu Iris on the side unlike the Irisfags). They seem content to just roll over and take it. Admirable, but foolish, as it allows loudest, most vicious and irrational Irisfag opinions to take root.

The one thing they can do to shut down all the "Beato should be spit-roasted over an open flame" or "Beato is worse than Pol Pot and Hitler combined" sort of comments is BRING UP THE PREQUEL, holy shit!

Oh well, Polechan and Lise are my favorite, so I suppose I don't care too much who wins the inevitable Iris vs Beato war. And really, in SM, everybody loses.
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>>135110993
Webms now, I still regurgitate 2ch/futaba gifs though.
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>>135109995
You do know that East Germany took a lot of Vietnamese boat-people, right? And that they are amongs the most productive and best integrated immigrants in whole of Germany, right?

Unlike West-Germany, with their Turkroach menace that did nothing but to spread islam and cancer to the reunified German state.

Wessie should go die.
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Shitty aldnoah zero like copy and paste CGI mechas right from the start, way to kill the hype for a show.
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>>135103406

There is no fucking way age could afford Maaya Sakamoto.
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>>135104558
>>135104707
At least here it mostly happens in situations that largely feel earned, not some TE newtype death bullshit.
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>>135111538
How expensive are VAs even?
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>>135111460
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>>135111568

Enough where they cutout some of Beatrix's scenes the damn penny pinchers.
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>>135106298
>There was almost an UNDERSTANDING end in Alternative

Explain.
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>>135103406
>>135111538

Can you imagine the chaos that would ensue if they somehow got Nana Mizuki for Irisdina's roll?
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>>135111602
Kouki just have to buy another car huh?
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>>135109479
Because interesting characters usually are more interesting than capital letter Important Plot Stuff.
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>>135111602
>>135111538
They got Tamura Yukari, how could they not

>>135111638
I can
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>>135111602
>>135111640

They're just saving up Yukarin for the Lise/Beato route, right guys? Right?
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>>135111685
She dies
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>>135111638

Why would there be chaos if Nana was casted?
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>>135111768
More VA Waifufags maybe?
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>>135111638

It'd be chaos for mah dick.

>>135111731

Second game has three routes. We don't really know what Kouki has planned, but I got my fingers crossed.

>>135111768

Cause
Iris = Fate
Beato = Nanoha

And they're actually trying to murder each other instead of befriending.
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>>135097895
>muv luv
>new PV
Wh... What
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>>135111302
>You do know that East Germany took a lot of Vietnamese boat-people, right?

What are you smoking? Vietnamese boat people were FLEEING communism; what possesses you to think they would emigrate to another communist country?!
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>>135109912
Obligatory
> Lux is moe~
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How would you guys react if BiS ends with Iris willingly turning in Jurgen and Beatrix being forced by Axmann to execute him?
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>>135111963
You are confirmed to be a retard. American, I assume?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_people_in_Germany


>East Germany began to invite North Vietnamese students to attend study and training programmes there as early as the 1950s; cooperation expanded in 1973, when they pledged to train a further 10,000 Vietnamese citizens in the following ten years. In 1980, they signed an agreement with the reunified Socialist Republic of Vietnam for enterprises in East Germany to provide training to Vietnamese; between 1987 and 1989.[4] The East German government viewed industrial trainee programmes not just as a means to increase the labour supply to local industry, but also as development aid to the poorer members of the socialist bloc.[8] By the mid-1980s, Vietnamese, along with Mozambicans, comprised the main groups of foreign labourers in the GDR.[10] From a population of just 2,482 in 1980, the number of Vietnamese residents of East Germany grew to 59,053 by 1989, with the largest influx in 1987 and 1988.[11] They were concentrated mainly in Karl-Marx-Stadt, Dresden, Erfurt, East Berlin, and Leipzig.[12] Their contracts were supposed to last for five years, after which they would return home.[4]

Communist Brotherhood.
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>>135111963
He was innacurate there, but Ostdeutschland did take in Vietnamese Gasterbeiter.
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>>135112026
>Vietnamese guest workers received salaries of roughly M400/month, of which 12% went to the government of Vietnam, and another portion was paid in consumer goods—mainly sewing machines, bicycles, clothes, sugar, and soap—instead of cash, due to inflation[citation needed]. In terms of their characteristics and relations to mainstream society, they were almost the exact opposite of the boat people: they were the elite of their country of origin, rather than refugees from it, and they knew that they would leave Germany, so put forth little effort towards integrating into East German society or learning the local language.[13] Despite the official rhetoric of socialist brotherhood, personal contacts between Vietnamese trainees and their German co-workers were discouraged; furthermore, pregnancies among female Vietnamese workers were punished by forced abortions.[14] They were sometimes subject to xenophobic violence, and even when their physical safety was maintained, they became the target of resentment due to their preferential access to consumer goods.[12] Despite their thoroughly socialist context, many helped their families to become petty capitalists, using raw materials and sewing machines sent back to Vietnam to privately produce fashionable clothing, such as imitation stone-washed jeans, and sell it to their neighbours.[11]
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>>135111869
>Black Beer

Yes, at least she's not a Bavarian Dirndl, but probably a Rostock one (the one with the far older Beer Festival than Munich, for you non-Easteners).
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>>135112071
>Gastarbeiter
derp'd
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>>135112026
>>135112074
Not seeing anything about boats there.
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>>135112026
>tfw West German during the division
>tfw can always laugh in superiority that was the frg

Been 25 years and still laughing at the disaster the east truly was.
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>>135112136
She's sporting grown-up Nanoha's hairstyle too.
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>>135111869

To bad Theo falls in love with Iris by the end of the first VN. The other routes will probably just be different takes on the main Iris route.

I'm an Irisfag, but dammit, I want to choose her, not have the game railroad me. It was the same shit with Cryska in TE.
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>>135112172
A disaster in everything besides military and education at all levels.

FRG's BW is laughably bad and the best drill instructors to this day are former NVA officers.
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>>135112186

Hence the file name.

>>135112172

And yet East Germans are the dominant power in your government now.
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>>135112071
Note the qualifiers; he's talking about Viets on BOATS.
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>>135112216
Cryska is a good girl who was forced into the spot because of lack of budget. Also two more days til her birthday.
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10/10 would love to talk about Marxism-Leninism with her and debate about the implications of historical materialism on the productive forces of the StaMoKap.
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>>135112026
>Combust Brotherhood
Realized I misread'
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>>135112309
Hence my saying inaccurate.
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>>135111626
Did you not see the Superior monologue? Takeru was getting somewhere with him.
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>>135112284
Makes >>135111302's gloating all the more ironic now that those very Ossies have announced their intention to give the country away to Muslim immigrants.
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>>135112328
>no Yuimouto DLC
What the hell, Age?
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>>135111302
>wargame

YEEAAAH

DDR STRONG

The Last Prussian Bastion in an ocean of degeneracy.
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>>135112350
I'm going out on a limb and saying it's implicit he knew about Viets in Germany. Just sayin'.
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>>135112284

Irisdina would've been ML's much hotter version of Merkel if given the chance.

Also, looks like RL Axmann and Schmidt got the final laugh in the end. Ossies control the West and East.

Just makes me wonder what Beatrix is up to.
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>>135112364
Merkel is just trying extra hard to fit in.

It is ironic that she, as an east german, is the most obvious american puppet and transatlanticist since decades.
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>>135112364
To be a bit fair the anti-immigration movement seems to be the strongest in formerly-Ossi Saxony though.
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>>135112417
>entire divisions of Murken tanks REKT

That's hardly an accomplishment.

>Last Prussian Bastion
>Prussian

Don't you mean Polish?
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>>135112216
Can I have a link to the age folder? pls
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>>135112424
True.
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>>135112480
Yeah, this has something to do with how the DDR pretented to be the oppressed communists and hence have no need to actually deal with the Nazi-past, as "all the Nazis were over there in the West", as they used to say.

In fact, the entire Stasi was made of ex Gestapo-ers.

But same was in the West until the most recently as well, so...
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>>135111869
Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue, Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang!
Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue, Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang!
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>>135112458

Extraverse Beatrix would be Jürgen's hauseweib. Also, I don't think either he or Beato would really be CDU like Iris would. Don't really know what political party would suit those two, honestly (maybe a Duetschfag can tell me). Beatrix in particular is as gifted and ruthless as Yuuko in the political arena, and Jürgen would be downright nasty with some experience under his belt.

>>135112528

http://exhentai.org/g/877518/7924378fd1/
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/877518/7924378fd1/
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>>135112626
Most cringeworthy verse ever in a national anthem.

They should have retained the immediate post-war anthem (now the EU anthem) or even the East German one.
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>>135112699
That verse has the tavern-song vibe, something one can belt out, and thus is fun.
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>>135112681

>Beatrix as a house wife

That's extremely cute if you think about it. She'd be the perfect wife and mother with occasional flashes of trolling/sadism. On the job she'd be absolutely feared but respected.
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>>135112341

She has a boy friend who is not dead.
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Cryska, Yui and Inia are my waifus.
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>>135113383
You can't have more than one anon
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Will there be a lot of Typhoons in the series because it's set in Germany? They're my favorite TSFs.
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>>135113718
No. That's a 3rd gen machine anon
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>>135113718
Sorry anon, only MiGs, F-5s and some F-14s fighting in typical murrican way
Beside it's 15 years too early for Typhoons
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>>135113718
You like big guns little boy?
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>>135113956
Big guns are good, but huge zweihanders are better.
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>>135097895
>It's another muv shit spin off adaptation
>that Satelight 3DCG
JUST
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>>135114259
>Satelight
I wish. The 3DCGI is by Sanzigen.
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>>135114208
>>135113956
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>>135114259

>satelight
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>>135114445

Was what Theo did to Beato rape? He did overpower her, force her to the ground, and then penetrate her against her will.
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>>135114701
If you find it sexual, then yes
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>>135114788

What if I find everything about Beatrix sexual?
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>>135114887
Yes
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>>135114913
Don't know anything about Muv-Luv but she's got that bitchy look in her eyes.
A sexy bitchy look, the most dangerous kind
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I have no clue what happens in this series and I'm not really interested, but when are they animating CHOMP?
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>>135114984

She's the main antagonist/final boss and the biggest threat to the heroes.

>>135115070

Not that many people get chomped.
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Frodo soon?
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>>135114984

She's the best:

http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/sm/wac/index.htm?process=7&escurl=../character10_esc.html

Tw1tch video: planetwarrior/c/7049290 (look at 03:49 for Yukarin's sex voice)
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>>135115249
I'm ready.
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>>135115361

You know, they show why nuking everything is a terrible idea in the prequel story.
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>>135106595
So I take it this story is about how be becomes a key player in some world changing conspiracy bullshit.
What did the master do anyways, Alaska shenanigans? Alto v shenanigans?
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Fuck that bitch Beatrix.

Would knock her out and drop her off at the nearest human research Hive.
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>>135115411
It worked against Canada.
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>>135115443

Yeah.

He mostly tries to sabotage Alt IV for some unknown reason and has a Jame Bond tier super-villain global conspiracy going on involving mercenaries, religious nuts, and refugee rights groups.
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>>135115474

I don't get you Beatrix haters. I don't really even hate her anymore, just kinda pity her, same as I do with most of the cast.
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>>135115511
Nuking a lander before it could deploy a Hive in North America was the best and most rational choice the US could make.

And although they didn't know it, if that Hive came with a Superior, they also single-handedly saved the planet even with Takeru's multidimensional shounen power ups.
>>
Those BETA fucking shits wouldn't stand a chance if the doctor was in charge.
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>>135115639

Her romance plot is so much better than Iris's.
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>>135115939

The problem with Iris/Theo is that it's pretty one sided for the majority of the series. Theo get's friend-zoned pretty hard until the final couple of volumes. In comparison, Beatrix/Jurgen hit first base by the second volume and both are very interested in furthering their relationship (the most Theo got was a hug).
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>>135108612
That ass doesn't look quite right. A bit misshapen maybe
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How much Fat Polish ta-tas are we gonna get?
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>>135117162

Probably not a lot. There's a reason why she's left out of the popularity polls with the other Schwarzeneggers.
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>>135116914

Still better than this.
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>>135112458
>Just makes me wonder what Beatrix is up to.
Probably joined the Society for Legal and Humanitarian Support and spends all day bitching about how former Stasi officers are getting a raw deal.
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>>135112358
Takeru would have had to prove humanity's origin wasn't artificial which he simply couldn't have done because even we don't have a clue how life began on earth. And Takeru certainly wouldn't have any evidence and whether Master Bater would approve it is highly under suspicion.
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>>135115307
>Tw1tch video: planetwarrior/c/7049290 (look at 03:49 for Yukarin's sex voice)
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>>135119195

That'd be more up Axmann's and Schmidt's alley. Beato doesn't seem like the type to sit around and whine about shit.

It'd all be a moot point if she still had Jurgen with her anyways.
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>>135119612

It's the best thing ever, especially when she aras or giggles.
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Better dead than Red. Don't accept Ost impurities.

>>135111302
I know, that's my point. The best girl is Vietnamese. East German waifus are fucking shit. Shit I tell you.

>>135111460
>>135111572
Big Vietnamese titties. Would love long time.
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>>135097895
Total Eclipse or nothing.
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>>135119864

Beato and Iris rank right up there with Yui and Cryska.
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>>135097895
Can I watch this if I never played the game?
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So what's terrorist Theo fighting for?

The end of the world?

What a wanker.
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>>135120552

Yeah, it's mostly a complete package. You don't need to play any of the other MLs to get it, though you might need to have a basic understanding of SM's sidestories (Requiem and BiS) to get the whole story.
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say,any news on when the localised version of muv luv is coming out?the other one doesn't work on win 8
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>>135120706

They're 50% of the way through translating Extra and have completed the CODEX's glossary.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/muvluv/muv-luv-a-pretty-sweet-visual-novel-series
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>>135120641
No idea what is bis.
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>>135120803

It's the prequel story. The only thing you need to take from it is that Beatrix and Iris were BFFs, and that Jurgen, Iris's bro, was Beatrix's lover.

Trust me, it'll help explain a whole lot of why Beatrix and Iris are the way that they are in SM, and specifically why they hate each other.
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>>135113526
are meryl and sharon the only actual american girls in the series?
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>>135120956
Well I am clueless about the whole series of Schwarzesmarken in general.
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>>135121174

Alright, here's a quick rundown of what is likely to be left out of the anime (because the VN certainly didn't include it). Most of it is found in Requiem, which is outside of the main story:

Beato loved Jurgen. Jurgen made a childhood promise to be with Beato and make her happy. Iris betrayed and got Jurgen killed, and so Beatrix really wants to kill Iris.

Gretel (glasses girl) had a boyfriend who Beatrix arrested because his family was criticizing the government; Gretel becomes a bitch because of this but holds out hope that her Martin is still alive.

Sylwia was betrayed by her best friend and gangraped. Her other friend committed suicide due to all the trauma she took. Sylwia goes full Beatrix and enacts a plan to "accident" the fuck out of her former friend involving BETA. Unlike Beato, Sylwia succeeds, but she has nobody and tries to take her life. Iris saves her, andgives her a purpose. She's a rather distrustful bitch because of the ordeal.

Annete and Inghilde were childhood friends, and Annete dragged her into the military even though she wasn't made for it. Annete feels tremendously guilty over this.

A certain somebody is so loyal to Beatrix because Beato saved her from Axmann and was nice too her. Axmann had her raped, tortured, whored out and forced to murder even infants with her bare hands for his amusement.

Kurt fell in love with a cute Ukranian girl but was unable to protect her; possibly why he's so protective of Katia.
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>>135120623
https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DPg75tvW_2ig
No greater good. No just cause!
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>>135121507
>Sylwia was betrayed by her best friend and gangraped. Her other friend committed suicide due to all the trauma she took. Sylwia goes full Beatrix and enacts a plan to "accident" the fuck out of her former friend involving BETA. Unlike Beato, Sylwia succeeds
I got a justice boner from that
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>>135122096
What's wrong with the embed feature?
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Are there any heretic scum in this thread
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>>135122452
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>>135122290
Sorry, derped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg75tvW_2ig
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Should have just been TDA or Euro Front. Do they not want waifufags on their franchise
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>>135121507
>Iris betrayed and got Jurgen killed
How can anyone even like this bitch?
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Meanwhile in West Germany.

http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/Bake_The_Enemies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y1wCOxhn3A

Fucking East Germans don't know how to war like the freedom loving peoples of the West. Only things Ossies are good at is betrayal and snuff porn, which is pretty good.
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So,is it worth to watch ,if I'm totaly new to franchise?
I know the basics of the back story, but nothing about characters.
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>>135123519

Just read Muv Luv and Muv Luv Alternative.

It's pretty much unanimous that the originals are still the best that the franchise has to offer.
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>>135123546
Will do, thanks.
What about TE?
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>>135111626
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>>135124019
Not him, but it's shit and should be avoided.
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>>135112358
>>135111626
>Takeru was getting somewhere with him
>here's a corpse of a human, prove it is alive
They were getting nowhere.
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I am going to marry Katia!
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>>135124086
It was fine
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>>135124019
It's okay as long as you weren't expecting something comparable to the second half of Alternative.
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>>135124086
>>135124281
I think I'll check it anyway.
Thanks again.
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it's gonna be worse than TE
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>>135097895
Looks pretty decent so far, it actually looks better than TE which is a massive step up. Thank god there's something to look forward to at last.
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TSFs clipping
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9 days away!
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I feel like an idiot now knowing about the real history on this East/West Germany thing
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FOR THE GERMAN EMPIRE! FOR MY KING!
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>>135125996
I'm guessing you're not from Europe then.
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Well, these are all just kinds of terrible. I hope we at least get an uncensored one with AT-X
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>>135125996
Are you the pillock who showed up in one of the threads, quoted OP describing the division of Germany after WW2, and claimed that alternate history has made you lose your interest?
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>>135125160
>LIDENFILMS
It's dead on arrival.
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>>135126132
No

>>135126535
Nope. I actually like alternate history, just not too familiar with this east/west germany
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Why is Beatrix best girl?
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>>135127963
Surely to enjoy alternate history, you'd need to be at least passingly familiar with actual history, and the division of Germany and the Berlin Wall is one of the core parts of the Cold War which dominated much of the latter half of the 20th Century history.
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>>135128390
Which is why I'm in a pickle with Schwarze
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Who is softer, Bea or Iris?
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>>135128434
Irisfag but I believe Bea has the softer boobs.
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>>135122643
> Axmann sent us to hell, but we're going even deeper-- take back everything that we've lost!
> Theodor... I'm already dead.
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>>135120766
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/muvluv/muv-luv-a-pretty-sweet-visual-novel-series
>steam
Better have porn version or it's gonna suck like Argento Nua.
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>>135097895
Do I need to have read Muv-Luv to watch this?
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>>135131517
They already confirmed that they're gonna put a R18 patch later on.
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>>135131578
It never hurts to do so.
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>>135132470
Reading Muv-Luv Extra actually does hurt though
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>>135097895
I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE STUDIO, THE DIRECTOR OR ANYTHING ELSE, WHY IS THIS NOT AIRING IN GERMAN!?
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>>135128434

Depends

Body - Iris (I think Beato, being stasi, would be physically trained in how to takedown people, so she would probably more athletic overall)

Hair - Iris (Beato's hair is pretty feral looking)

Breast - Beato (bigger, softer, better)

Lips - Beato's mouth pussy is pretty much unmatched

Overall, I'd rather have Beatrix in bed with me. She looks like she'd be the type to be into rough, passionate sex before cuddling afterwards.
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>>135132854
>Schwarzesmarken in German

Mein Gott im Himmel, nein! German is pretty fucking disgusting language to listen and I studied the fucking thing for 8 years.
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>>135133141
>rough, passionate sex before cuddling afterwards.
More like rough, passionate sex before shooting you in the head.
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>>135133207

She seemed like the perfect waifu to Jurgen.
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>>135099209
>>135099126
I think the MiG-21 is my favorite one. Fuck all that fancy shit, this one looks cool and bulky.
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>>135133149
Fresse halten
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>>135128224

Here's a little translation snippet for you guys:

"Sooner or later... you will know…"

"...the limitations of your dream... only under stasi dominion…only ideals like mine, will bring hope to humanity..."

[Beato makes a lot of pain noises]

"——I shall be watching how it ends then... in Valhalla... with pleasure…"
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>>135133648

Beatrix is so shit. Easily worse person in the whole show.
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>>135133648
Please tell me this is a real screenshot from the vn and characters look as insane
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>>135100011
>>135100878
I remember you on /m/ Beatohater. Not even a Beatofag (Katiafag here) but you are a special kind of autism. You're anonymous but I still recognize you. That's how autistic you're being.
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>>135133888

It's not, but half the cast *are* nutcases.

>>135133894

And yet people listen to him...

From what I've seen, there's two or three of em crawling around /m/, but he's the worse. Thankfully, he usually comes in, drops his load, and gets out. The other two tend to linger.
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>>135133894
>>135134026

The PV, with Beatrix joyfully executing a bound man seems to backup a lot of what he was saying about her.
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>>135133648

Was she right?
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>>135134212

You don't say...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ6hVKQQMJk
muh fucking dick. I know this is a muv-luv thread and all but I am just overwhelmed right now,
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Nope. Nothing humanity could ever hope to do would have saved the planet. The only chance was to nuke the Original Hive just as it landed. That didn't happen. So humanity on the planet Earth is finished.

Giving humanity a chance at victory required a miracle -- which is what Takeru was. Even if the entire human race unified in the 80s, it STILL wouldn't have been nearly enough. The BETA were just that overwhelming.
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>>135099655
Iris's jokes fucking suck, though.

>A Russian and an American satellite meet in orbit. A solar flare cuts their communications with the ground. The Russian satellite then speaks to the American satellite in German. "Guten tag mein kamerad at last we can speak our mother language".
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>>135135318

I think I like Beatrix's trolling more than Iris's jokes.
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>>135135318
>tfw I laughed
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>no German voice acting

Not interested. It will just be Total Eclipse all over again.
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>>135135318
They're pretty shit yeah I find this really endearing
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>>135135318

Heh, the joke isn't that bad.

>>135135609

Yeah, if you like raw sadism.

Ugh, everything about Beatrix disgusts me. Her stringy pube-like hair, her slut lips, the blood colored whore eyes, and that all around 1/10 personality; why Jurgen would ever love her and how Iris would ever be friends with her is beyond me.
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>>135133894

Does that make you autistic for recognizing him?
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>>135135318
It only makes her more lovely
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>>135135824
I only wish that she could die while screaming in absolute terror when as she gets CHOMP'd.
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Beatrix is my waifu. Seasonals can fuck off.
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>>135122840

One mistake shouldn't condemn somebody. Iris is very remorseful over the whole affair and tries to redeem herself for it. She remains strong despite the barbs and insults, and even manages to become a hero in the NVA. I think she's ultimately a better person for it, at least when compared to Beatrix.

>>135136432

Maybe you might get the chance to do it in the VN, though I think there's more satisfaction in putting her down yourself.
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I may be an irisfag but pre-stasi Beatrix was great.
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How does everyone know the whole story for this when it's not translated
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Sweden fell to the Big BETA Conquest
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>>135136585

Wow, and I didn't think you Beatrixshitters could get any more stupid. Iris is better for turning in her brother and getting over it than Beatrix who lost her true love. If I hit you with a hammer, but felt remorse over it, you'd still be justified in being angry at me, right?

>>135136469

She's been my waifu for the past three years, and that was back when everyone was saying she raped Pham.

>>135136874

Chinese uploaded most of the series. Also, digging through 2ch and Futaba.

>>135136837

This guy gets it.
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>>135099015
>Hopefully the anime will find some way to fit that shit in.

You and I both know this aint going to happen.
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>>135135318
Pretty good.
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>>135137230

You don't need that much from the side material to enhance your experience, really, just what's in >>135121507

Course, the LN/VN is really good at putting you into Theo's very flawed/skewed perspective, so you might want to go in blind if you want to get "Theo's" experience. Theo doesn't know about Sylwia's backstory (so he just sees her as a bitch), or the whole Beatrix vs Iris shit (or he probably wouldn't think Iris was an angel). The side material tends to be more neutral, which tends to throws people for a loop.
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Whose ready for Schwarzesmarken: Altered Fable?
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>>135137800
I don't care if I can't fug them
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>>135138210

Pham, Annete, Katia, Iris, and Lise would be the only ones open to Theo.

Gretel is Martin's highschool sweetheart
Sylwia hooks up with Walther
Inghild loves Marco
Mirai is Hannibal's girl
And good luck prying away Beatrix from Jurgen
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>>135138437
>All the worst girls are taken
Perfect
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>>135138727

Sylwia, Gretel, and Beatrix are are amazing waifus when around their significant others.
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I think Beatrix will be the one to kill Jurgen honestly. Looking at the dates, Strachwitz and all his accomplices were purged in 1978. Jurgen was one of Strachwitz's proteges and Beatrix was a stasi lieutenant by the time she was 17-18 (going off of Gretel's story in Requiem 2), so it's likely she was the one to kill him.
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>>135138919
And how do you know? Was it explained in the side stories?
She has good tastes in men but she's still a shit
I guess someone always sulking with heavy expression and slapping peoples for no reasons like Walter wouldn't mind a waifu that does the same thing or worse
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