Is it just me, or had Gen Urobuchi kinda fallen off the radar?

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>>134957271

He is just a flavor of the month guy and people grew tired of him.

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>>134958801
More like there is no work for him to do.

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>>134957271
He's been devoting all of his time revising the script for Madoka S2

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>>134959610
Came to say this.

Be ready for something great once again.

>>134958801
Then how come Mari Okada keeps getting work?

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>>134959854
>Madoka
>great past ending of series
NO!

>>134957271
He's probably tired of doing shit back to back. Let him rest.

>>134959610
>>134959854
Has it even been confirmed if Gen's involved with the new Madoka? For all we know he could just be a supervisor like he was with Psycho-Pass S2.

>>134959982
Fair enough.

>>134960000
He better be involved in S2. Gargantia and Aldnoah sucked because different people wrote the scripts, so they were all so damn disjointed. And PP2 was even worse because it was written by an absolute fucking hack who completely missed the point.

Would you say Gen is the George Lucas of anime?

>>134959914
Mari Okada has a large genre portfolio and people are used to her be writing in many show but they don't care at the same time.

>>134960604
>George Lucas of anime
that's Anno

>>134960604
Nah, Lucas needs reigning in externally or you get Jar Jar everywhere. I think Urobuchi is quite capable on his own.

>>134959982
seems plausible

Good riddance.

I have not enjoyed one single thing of his besides Saya no Uta.

>>134960736
I love this meme.

>>134960000
>Has it even been confirmed if Gen's involved with the new Madoka?
Every article I've read just says "The original Staff is back" but it lists everyone specifically EXCEPT for Gen.

But surely SHAFT isn't that dumb as to do a S2 without him. They have to know that he was a large factor into the sucess.

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>>134957271
My understanding is that artists make art. Not products.
I don't think you can mass produce art, but its easy to make lots of shit.

If he writes something check it out. If he doesn't then let's assume his working on something bigger.

who cares

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Didn't we just have a 500+ thread because it was revealed Gen Urobuchi MIGHT be writing ONE of its episode?

I think that speaks volumes to his relevance.

>>134961881
Of course they're not dumb enough to choose someone else besides Gen. Gen may just not want to do another Madoka project and would rather do something else.
>>134962650
If we did, I didn't see it.

>>134959982

If people like Hiroyuki Sawano can do it why can't Urobuchi?

>>134961525
enjoy your edgy fuminori

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>>134962694
It still sounds good though and you can listen to it.

God knows how he thought Psycho Pass was acceptable.

>>134960604
>Gargantia sucked.
Let's not go too far here Anon.

>>134957271

To me he's written 2 good but not outstanding shows ever and is far from the sole reason why they turned out well. He's also written some really uneven films that are honestly flat out boring for long stretches at a time.

>>134962692
>Gen may just not want to do another Madoka project and would rather do something else.
I refuse to believe the entire original staff besides Gen is on board for a sequel. That makes no fucking sense.

>>134963215
The Magica Quartet is behind the new project, with the exception of the Producer who is busy with other things

Shinbo, Urobuchi, and Ume came up with the concept movie and will be working on the new project

Urobuchi will never be irrelvant, suck a dick OP

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For me, Gen's best work was Fate/Zero. It just hit all the right points and was a fantastic experience from start to finish.

>>134963287
As much as I want to blindly believe you and be assured that the Urobutcher is writing the whole thing, we don't have proof of it. Remember when A/Z was going to be written by him as well?

>>134963287
OP here. I like Gen. I'm just wondering why he hasn't done anything in a while.

>>134963473
this

Wasn't there announcement for new Meguka?

>>134963287
>Urobuchi will never be irrelvant, suck a dick OP
He's already irrelevant. He's been an idea man on a bunch of shitty shows and only actually done a few himself, which have been okay at best.

>>134963677
>Madoka
>literally the Shin Seiki Evangelion of Japanese animated television
>ok at best
It's objectively a 10/10

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>>134963843
>It's objectively a 10/10

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I had a dream where in the new movie had a big musical number with Mami conducting, which segued into an elaborate ceremony with Sayaka and Kyouko in wedding dresses and holding hands with lots of celebration.
But after the movie I heard a bunch of people arguing that the wedding was only symbolic of friendship, not gay.

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>>134963966
>Hideaki Anno
>This is really good, Kyubey. Be it getting rid of lip-synching, or working it as a character, doing it so thoroughly makes me feel great. And the symbolization of the witches is also skillfully done. The music is also good. My urge is to own the three BGM tracks like the "salesman's theme" which I love, got me to buy Vol. 2 of the Blu-Ray. Ep. 10 was good too. The way HomuHomu was depicted was good. I think in terms of the released form of anime works, going for a movie series instead of another TV series is a good way to establish it even further. I have high expectations of it.

>Mamoru Oshii (Japan Media Arts Festival judge)
>Madoka is the first "god-tier" anime since Evangelion.

>Yutaka Yamamoto
>Stop Cancelling Our Anime! There’s no need for “self-estraint” with anime. There is no need to cancel Madoka. Now of all times, Madoka must keep crying out the truth of humanity.

>Kazuo Koike(Lone Wolf and Cub & Crying Freeman)
>There were many times I felt my heart rending when I watched Madoka Magica. I think it is a great thing to create such touching work. Gen Urobuchi, I could not have such ideas. I admit defeat.

>Shunji Suzuki
>Madoka might beat Eva, if it hasn't yet. It's not good for relics of the past to stay at the top forever.

>Ryusuke Hikawa (Japan Media Arts Festival judge)
>For the past decades I've wondered, "Why can't anybody make an anime with as much impact as Gundam using the power of the moe anime genre?" Madoka Magica made this wish come true.

>Hitoshi Sakoh
>The pairing of Madoka and Homura is just the best!

>Rena Matsui
>It was a most heartfelt joy to watch scenes like the ED of ep. 10 or when Kyubey gave a speech.

>>134964315
You forgot to link some youtube reviewers

>>134959610
>>134960000
Didn't Urobuchi say in an interview (like during the Rebellion era) that if Madoka's story continues he wants someone else to write it? I could have sworn that was the case.

He does have an annoying habit of handing his incomplete stories over to less competent writers and letting them finish them.

Honestly it makes me wonder what he originally intended with all the loose ends at the end of Psycho-pass Season One. How would his own Season 2 have been different? Would he have taken the characters in the same direction that the new writer did?

I also honestly wonder if he dropped Aldnoah because he ended up not liking it, and just sold the incomplete script to another studio for a lot of money. You'd think most writers would just scrap their ideas once they dislike them. Why did Urobuchi leave his name on it and trust someone else to finish it for him? That seems like an unusual industry practice.

Anyways he's starting to damage his own brand a little bit with things like Rebellion and Psycho-pass showing that he doesn't really care about the integrity of his creative works.

>>134964421
It seems you're implying that Rebellion wasn't a masterpiece.

Tow > Gen

PP2 wasn't that bad.

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>>134964198
I dreamed about Homura winning again in the new movie.

Yes... pretty sure that's what will happen.

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>>134964315
>Moe anime genre

>>134964468
Rebellion was just opportunistic fan pandering of the worst kind.

>Sayaka's a lesbian now guys and she's totally gay for Kyouko

Yeah fuck off Urobuchi

>>134964315
Why is literally everyone in the anime industry retarded?

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>>134957271
He's probably busy writing up scripts for a new Gundam series like everyone's been speculating for ages.

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>>134963843
>It's objectively a 10/10
Hold your horses there cowboy. It's a great show but it's in no way a 10/10. I'd give it a 9 at most, but I believe Fate/Zero was much better than Madoka.

>>134964558
>Rebellion was just opportunistic fan pandering of the worst kind.
Actually rebellion wasn't just opportunistic fan pandering of the worst kind. I'll back up my claim once you back up yours.

>Sayaka's a lesbian now guys and she's totally gay for Kyouko
Nice yuri goggles.

>>134964315
Hitoshi Sakoh confirmed for yurishitter.

>>134964662
Yes, because that obviously takes over a year. People are just going to keep speculating that that's what he's doing, and then if it actually does happen in 2018 they'll say they were "right all along".

>>134964674
Fate Zero was not that great.

>>134964475
Nice memepost. Upvoted.

>>134964644
Same reason why everyone here is retarded. Do you even have to ask?

>>134964845
A-autism!?

>>134964845
I'd wager most /a/ posters aren't retarded enough to make unironic public statements that Madoka is crying out the truth of humanity.

>>134964421
He's just autistic like most artists and mathematicians and just does whatever he finds interesting

>>134964951
>I'd wager most /a/ posters aren't retarded
Try again

>>134965045
I'm glad there is no stupid 4chan users.

>>134964644
What do you expect from this bunch of otakus?

>>134957271
>He hasn't been the lead writer of a TV series since Psycho-Pass
Gaim

>>134964644

I honestly don't fucking know myself

>>134957271
His 5 minutes of fame are over. And thank god for that, butcher is a one-trick pony hack writer.

>>134964680
Listen, we're not going to get into an argument about whether or not Rebellion was shit in this thread. That topic has already been discussed to death. At the very least it was divisive and opinions on it are mixed. I probably shouldn't have mentioned it since it was bound to trigger someone.

>>134965457

The first generation of creators managed to make some really interesting things and get the ball rolling on Japanese animation precisely because they weren't a bunch of stupid otaku. Yeah sure they copied a lot from Disney and Star Wars but like at least they were drawing from influences outside of Japan and outside of the cloistered realm of otakudom.

>>134965475
>He didn't specify anime, look how smart I am!
You're on the anime board.

>>134964315

Man these people just feel kind of more pathetic and grovelling than anything.

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Taro needs to become a script-writer of anime.

>>134965635
Actually I did regret posting that because I hate arguing about Rebellion and its merits, especially on /a/ because it just devolves into homura shitposting with 100% certainty.

>At the very least it was divisive and opinions on it are mixed
I can agree on that.

>>134965641
Some of those people quoted are in their 60s and 70s.

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Why is he so perfect?

>>134965906

What an emo

>>134965991
Who says "emo" anymore? That's so 2005.

>>134964315
I think this actually has to do with Japanese culture more than anything. They value conformity above all else so if something is generally well regarded, they probably feel a need to overwhelmingly praise it even if they think it's mediocre or just good. It's just Japan.

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>>134965876
Thanks for being reasonable.

Have some best meguca. Subjectively of course.

>>134964674
>fateshit
>anywhere near good

>>134966025
That's sort of the way every culture works, though. Did you see the thing where Oscar voters admitted they voted for things they hadn't seen because they'd heard how good they were?

>>134966025
God damn people why do you feel the need to come up with a thousand explanations why people can't actually like a popular show?
Is it so difficult to accept that they genuinely like it?

>>134966134
Yeah, if it's shit.

>>134964315

The only one that sounds like he's seriously thinking through his choices of words and not just being sycophantic as all fuck is Hideaki Anno. Of course Rena Matsui would say good things about it, she literally works for Sony Music Records, same with Hitoshi Sako of Galileo Galilee. NHK receives a lot of funding from Sony also which is where Ryusuke Hikawa works so that's almost half of these commentators being in a direct conflict of interest right off the bat and just supporting the company from inside. Yutaka Yamamoto's commentary is just silly as is Oshii's and former is infamous for saying stupid shit all the time as well. Shunji Suzuki is just some key animator that used to work for Gainax musing about shit so that just leaves Kazuo Koike as kind of the sole authority here.

Frankly I just figure this as more bought and paid for publicity for the most part like how the Newtype Awards are.

>>134966025
This just reads like terrible damage control. Madoka can't be that good so it must be that Japanese culture is flawed?

That's a fucking stretch.

>>134966116
Yeah, but trust me, it's even more pronounced in Japan. Look up the term Tatamae and you'll see what I mean.

>>134966209
> can't be that good
Are you one of those people who thinks quality is objective?

>>134966197
Yeah, Kazuo Koike really seems out of place.

>>134960604
>Would you say Gen is the George Lucas of anime?
That's Kaihou Norimitsu.

>>134966197
Or, ooooooooor maybe, just maybe, they liked it?

A strange concept I know, people liking Madoka? What? How can that be? But it's actually a lot more likely than you think.

>>134966288
If you want to go the "it's all subjective" route than the conversation is pointless anyway and you might as well not bother commenting.

>>134966116

I remember reading that Big Hero 6 pretty much just won it's best animated award because people hadn't really seen anything else or frankly it and voted for it because fuck it it's Disney Pixar so why not. Lots of complain about being dragged in by their kids to see this or that movie.

>>134965906
>my little lite novelist can't be THIS edgy
Why is Urobuchi so moé?

>>134966197
Most of these seem to be from Newtype, so you're probably right.

>>134966288
>Are you one of those people who thinks quality is objective?
Well by that logic everything is subjectively good and bad. My point is that it's really not that much of a shock that they can like Madoka. Whether you personally like it is another story.

>>134966414
It is actually a shock that people with tons of exposure to anime whom I'd expect to have good taste and knowledge would say ridiculous hyperbolic shit like most of those comments.

>>134960604
No. That would be Yoshihiro Togashi.

>>134966134
>>134966209
I generally like Madoka, but the stuff these people are saying here is just ridiculous. They're either shilling or just paying lip service, like this >>134966197 anon says.

I'm not saying they don't like it, but most of these people are probably exaggerating at least somewhat.

>>134966475
>I'd expect to have good taste and knowledge would say ridiculous hyperbolic shit like most of those comments.
That right there, that whole sentence is my point. You don't like it, so you cannot believe that all of those people unironically like it. That's not how it works.

Why is it that whenever Madoka is brought up, everyone sucks Urobuchi's cock but nobody bothers to praise Akiyuki Shinbo for handling Gen's story so well? It's like Gen gets more recognition for Madoka than Shinbo.

>>134966589
So what you're saying is that whenever anyone says something, no matter how over-the-top and hard-to-believe it seems, I should assume they really believe it?

>>134966589
These are not reasoned opinions. These are the type of thing you say when you're advertising or if you're a teenager online trying to praise something you think you're supposed to praise.

>>134966656
No, but the original post I replied to seemed to imply that the reason they all said those hyperbolic ridiculous things about Madoka is because it's common in Japanese society for people to just say shit just because other people do. That's a load of crap.

That whole post is a troll pasta of poorly translated newtype quotes, of course it's fucking ridiculous, it's probably not even accurate at all. But at the very least all of those people were quoted with positive reactions to Madoka.

>>134966619
That's what I will never get. I love Madoka but actually Gen's writing comes last in the thinks I like about it. Shinbo's direction, the SHAFT art style with Inu's huge influence and the character designs by Ume , the soundtrack by Kajiura, all these things are the main reasons for me.

>>134966752
Yamakan's is from his fucking twitter, and I can easily believe that his tweets are just as stupid as that translation makes them sound.

>>134966752
That is just something Japanese people do though, anon. Yes, people in other cultures do it as well but it's even more pronounced in Japan.

>>134966619
Because of the "money-hungry Shinbo tries to destroy the integrity of the franchise" meme.

>>134966619
The fatal weakness of the western anime community is that it is pretty much only able to analyze and care about writing/story/characters, and then only goes as far as caring about animation/sound to the point of whether it looks/sounds pretty, cool or not. You rarely get people talking about the more technical aspects behind series.

>>134966820
Yeah and it was also in the aftermath of the fucking Touhoku earthquake IIRC, so it was a hype tweet because he was pissed that Madoka got delayed.

He's writing 4.0 because anno is busy with godzilla

>>134966921
In my defense, I mostly care about manga, so all the technical shit is fluff for me.

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>>134964674
>chuuni bullshit
>better than madoka

Wut?

>>134966921
Well in this particular case that isn't really true because a lot of the praise that Madoka got, even in the west, was due to the visuals, especially the labyrinths and witches. Inu Curry get as much praise as Gen. But I do agree that Shinbo and Kajiura need a lot more credit. Madoka has an absolutely GOAT OST.

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>>134966030
She is literally cock hungry. How can she be best girl?

>>134966883
Wait, what the fuck? People actually believe that shit?

>>134967145
No, you just fell for bait.

>>134967145
Based on the constant "Shinbo forced poor innocent Urobuchi to keep milking the franchise by giving Rebellion an open ending" stuff back when people talked about Rebellion, yeah.

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>>134967204
But that was just part of the 5 stages of grief all Rebellion watchers go through as they try to rationalize what the fuck they just saw.

>>134967089
He's referring more to the praise Madoka got from its fanbase rather than critics.

>>134966921
Fucking this. Nobody in the West stops to think of the technical aspects of movies, games, etc. nowadays. They only care about writing and just ignore everything else.

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>>134967132
I'm sorry that your appreciation for characters stops when they express interest in a male who isn't you. Thankfully you have a whole anime industry that will pander to that sensibility.

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>>134967132
Sayaka-chan is a pure maiden in love you nigger

>>134963473
Shame it wasn't even him. Can you even call something your story when someone else gives you the world, the characters, characters stories/abilites and the central plot of the whole thing? Can you even call something yours when even after all that you still called every night the person that gave you everything because you didn't know if things would fit correctly?

>>134967089
Pretty much this. I always have different reasons to watch specific shows for example this season I watch Taimadou for the cast, Rakudai for Shin's direction, One-Punch Man for the animation, Shomin sample because I was interested in seeing how they adapt it, Valkyrie for tits etc. etc.
Story only plays a small factor among others and only in some shows it's the most important one.

>>134957271
Good riddance

>>134968327
>Can you even call something your story when someone else gives you the world, the characters, characters stories/abilites and the central plot of the whole thing?
Yes.

>>134957271
I had thought for a long time that he's Chinese because of his written name.

>>134957271
Imagine Mari Okada and Gen Urobuchi work together a new anime.

Wouldn't that be the greatest suffering?

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Come back to VNs, Gen.

>>134968789
Imagine them having a child. It would burst forth from Okada's womb in a bloody mess, killing her instantly, and immediately begin working on the darkest edgiest anime ever made.

>>134960604
>George Lucas of anime
That's Tomino though.

>>134968947
Sounds like the average anime from them

>>134969027
Not really, Tomino mostly leaves Gundam up to other people, and some of the ones he's done long after the original have been really good.

>>134960604
>Would you say Gen is the George Lucas of anime?

No way. That's obviously Chingchong Takanakasaka.

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>>134957271
It's odd, especially since he said he'll be working on a variety of stuff for this year but we only got an episode of wooser.
I'll go with the standard nipfag theory and say he's a slow writer.

>>134969370
the original shows are slower to produce, but he said he is making something

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>>134969370

>>134968828
>kikokugai
Man that looks like shit, how the hell is this a 2011 vn?

>New Nitroplus Project

I hope he's involved and I hope it's not Madoka again

>>134968752
It's not his real name but he's indeed obsessed with chinese shit.

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Mari Okada has almost literally keked him out of work though.

>Is a massive Gundam fan
>Okada gets to write a Gundam series, not him.

>Was rumored to write the new Trigger series
>Okada writes a new Trigger series instead.

Now the Wixxos movie just needs to outgross the Psycho-Pass film and I'll stop considering it a coincidence.

>>134969688
How does this bitch still find work after garbage like Aquarion or M3?

>>134969423
That is true.
Gargantia started production before Madoka aired.
He started writing madoka around 2008 and wrote an episode a month.
Expelled from paradise was written even before that.

It could take years before we see more of his series.

>>134960604
He's the James Cameron of anime

>>134969741
She's pretty good when she's adapting other people's works though and she seems like a very productive writer.
So my guess is that her success is based on her work ethic.

>>134969688
Those projects started production ages ago, before Butch was even relevant.

>>134969741
Because she's a writer for hire, those aren't blamed for anything and the director gets the blame.

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>>134969688
IBO ended up a pretty big disappointment. The Okada parts are probably the best part, but I'm too bored after the shitty fights to pay attention.

>>134970258
Truth is that the episodes she handles herself are usually better than the rest, but she writes like one in three.

You'd think Okada would be a shoe in for Gundam because they both run on retarded drama.
But watered down Okada just isn't good enough.

>>134968327
Well, it was co-authored by Gen and Nasu.

>>134966113
>>134967069
If you disagree then why not make some convincing counterpoints rather than just greentexting and posting smug anime faces?

>>134969919

Nobody is the James Cameron of anime.

>>134970258

Okada or the other writers have nothing to do with it. When it comes to toy-centric shows, producers play the largest role. The Okada element is pretty weak. She's not even writing all the episodes. They're not going to give Gundam to some writer with that amounts of flops she had.

>>134963843

Evagelion is horrible so bad comparison.

>>134970592

Didn't you know? Hating Fate is a meme on /a/. /a/ actually loves Fate. Which makes sense because it's truly not as good as people make it out to be.

>>134965805

That would be awesome. Taro's games are fucked up.

>>134970771
/a/ would just bitch about how ""edgy"" they are

>>134966619
>Akiyuki Shinbo

Nisekoi blows. I think it's fair that Gen gets more recognition. Script plays a huge part.

>>134970635
Fair enough.
Gen is the Orson Welles of anime.

>>134970533
>>134968327
Uro didn't have to adhere to the continuity, it could have been like Prisma and Nasu wouldn't mind but he wanted to make sure it lines up as close as possible because in a twisted way he would share the joy of F/SN's happy ending because his story led to that.

>>134970950
Then who is the Quintin Tarantino?

>>134969741
Aquarion outsold the original.

>>134970976
Mari Okada

>>134970976
Narita Ryougo.

>>134970976
Bahi.

>>134969741
I don't like her either, but Evol wasn't her fault.

>>134971113
>Mari Okada
>Darker Than Black: Gemini of the Meteor

Yeah, no.

>>134971237
She was an assistant on that, I don't know why anyone acts like it was somehow her fault.

For those of you who still haven't figured it out, Urobuchi has working mostly for Kamen Rider Gaim, which you can find out easily enough on Wikipedia. He's only had a finger in anime, which is why projects that he comes up with usually end up being written primarily by someone else. Don't talk if you're too much of a lazy cunt to do a bit of research.

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>>134964558
>Kyoko's a lesbian now guys, she's ULTRA gay for Sayaka!
I'm here with you on the other side of the fence, Sayabro. A pure Christian girl like Kyoko could never love another girl. Rebellion's yuri twist was complete bullshit.

>>134971310
Gaim ended over a year ago, and the in-name-only projects started with Gargantia, six months before Gaim.

>>134967089
Kajiura gets a lot of praise for the OST though. She actually made a soundtrack that didn't result in people complaining that she was just getting boring and repeating old pieces of work.

Might have been laying low this year but at least she's involved in a 2016 anime and the upcoming SAO movie (funnily enough, both are directed by the same person...go figure).

>>134971393
Yea, that's why I said "mostly"

>>134965614
When he still wrote eroge he did do variety of stuff. It's kinda sad that he fell into mold when starting to work on anime.

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>>134971379
Glad you see some reason in this.

I really loved the relationship between the girls in the main series. Sayaka gradually drifting away from Madoka as Kyouko's words start to grate on her. Kyouko softening her attitude as Sayaka inadvertently helps her realize why it was she originally became a meguka. But, I think Kyouko's feelings were ultimately one-sided. Sayaka's feelings for Kyouko never went past the point of thinking of her as a kindred spirit. Kyouko's feelings for Sayaka were deeply personal and introspective.

But hey, I guess cheap yuriservice is more important than that to Urobuchi.

>>134971437
It doesn't really work as an explanation when it only overlaps with a third of the time period we're talking about.

>>134959610
Has it been confirmed as S2 and not a movie? Homura as autistic villian for 12-24 episodes just sounds like suffering. And not in a good way.

>>134971500
Nothing's been confirmed, we just have the concept movie.

>>134970976
Akyuki Shinbo

>>134971379
You think Kyoko's a pure christian girl when she let's people die so they can be witch fodder? Hah. Haha.

>>134971536
I'm sorry that you don't like the idea of fictional characters being Christian, anon. But she pretty clearly is.

>>134971379
She's a thief, anon.

>>134970976

Urobuchi is hardboiled Tarantino.

>They both have a hard on for assassins.
>Their debut was a crime/thriller work.
>They both made a martial-arts revenge work.
>Uro made Django and Tarantino made a movie called Django.
>They share some of the same favorite movies like Taxi >driver and The good, the bad and the ugly.
>Most importantly, they both liked Showgirls.

>>134971551
Yeah, except she's not. I mean, I don't know what kind of Christians you've been talking to, but most of them don't really do that, you know.

>>134971599

Their styles are similar too. Lots of high-tension standoffs between characters. Lots of early character-building through inconsequential banter. Lots of genre awareness.

>>134971497
2013-2014. Rebellion released in 2013. So we have just one year where we aren't 100% sure what he's been up to. Sounds like "mostly" to me.

>>134971608
The way you behave has no bearing on what your beliefs are. She pretty blatantly prays to God for help her and crouches in prayer before offering herself as a sacrifice at the end. She also clearly has faith in the afterlife given the last words she utters to Sayaka.

Rakuen Tsuiho is a better sequel to the Ghost in the Shell movie than Innocence.

>>134971695
People often pray when they believe they'll die, even those who don't believe will sometimes do ti. It's only more likely with her because she has a Christian background. Doesn't mean she is a pure Christian, doesn't mean she can't have a closer relationship with another girl. Doesn't mean Christian lesbians don't exist.

>>134971797
I never said Christian lesbians didn't exist. I only said she was Christian. If the only thing you're arguing is whether or not she's pure, then I don't disagree. I'm not the anon who originally called her a pure Christian girl.

>>134971826
Even so, her callous attitude towards the lives of ordinary people clearly do not portray her as your average run of the mill Christian girl. She may have a Christian background, but that doesn't mean she still is.

>>134971411
When did /a/ become aware of Kajiura? For me it was Madoka. So I had nothing for reference to know whether it was repetitive at that time. Even after watching the KNK movies I still think of Madoka as my initial exposure which feels more original.

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>>134971797
>Chrisian lesbians
People aren't actually that deluded, are they?

>>134960604
No, because when he's involved with something it becomes good, and when he goes away it becomes bad.

He's the Egroeg Sacul of anime.

>>134972233
People can believe whatever the hell they want. Being a Christian just means that you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. No particular line of conduct is required.

>>134972369
Except for the billion chapters upon chapters prior to that, that were written as a line of conduct?

>>134972369
SOME line of conduct is required by the basis of how God sets down his law. If someone genuinely believes in heaven + hell, they'll know that certain kinds of behavior are NOT ok. Some of it is up to interpretation, but a lot of it is pretty clear. Using people as witch food is obviously NOT ok.

I thought she was Christian by upbringing only. There's no reason to believe she continued as a devout fundementalist. Im with you on KyoSaya though. There were undertones, but they could have gone either way and I was leaning toward soul sisters rather than soul mates. Rebellion dropped that on us hard.

>>134972470
If you're interested in the Christian theological status of the "old law," go educate yourself. Don't expect us to teach you.

>>134972526
To be fair, Rebellion might have swung the ball in that direction, but it doesn't come across as an actual confirmation. It's at best, just leaning in that direction.

>>134972526
I choose to see Kyouko as a Christian who went through some periods of shameful conduct brought about by extreme hardship and cynicism. In all likelihood she scorned God and cursed him repeatedly for her lot in life. There are many Christian characters like her in literature and cinema, it's interesting and it deepens her.

The fact that Sayaka opened her eyes to her own bullshit shows that she maybe never really believed all that stuff about the "food chain." It was a big lie that she'd started to tell herself as much as she was telling it to Sayaka. In the end she decided to do the right thing because her eyes were opened.

Whether you are a Christian has more to do with your beliefs in matters metaphysical than in your conduct regarding your own beliefs. Even after all she sees, in the end she still asks God to save her, which is not to be taken lightly in the context of her backstory.

I'm sure other interpretations are available for Kyouko but I don't personally find them convincing. I think her Christian beliefs stayed with her in the back of her head her whole life, she strayed from them over time, and ultimately reconciled with her faith. It's an interesting spiritual character arc.

>>134958801
>just a flavor of the month guy
He's been big long before anime you plebeian monkey

>>134964496
Who is this a pic of?

>>134972943
the im@s girl who likes it up the ass

>>134972954
ty m8

Did this thread get fucking derailed while I was gone?

>>134974559
no

>>134966619
Shinbo did the Rebellion twist because he wanted to make more seasons and movies. That is fact and is not a value judgement on Rebellion. While Urobuchi ultimately accepted to write the idea, Shinbo and Iwakami explicitly wanted to whore out a show/franchise that really doesnt need more seasons. It sells merchandise like crazy at the moment despite 2 years of nothing.

The fact is they had no clue how to continue after Rebellion because of the situation they put themselves in and that's why it took 2 years to even get a storyboard going.

Homura at this point is too sympathetic/pathetic/crazy to be a believable villian, Madoka forgiving Homura is a given, Madoka and Homura killing one another is insulting, and the other girls are borderline irrelevant due to the new gap in power.

>>134975287
That's a myth that was debunked a long time ago, get with the times.

>>134975287
>says it's not a value judgement on Rebellion
>proceeds to give his shitty opinion on Rebellion
wat are you doing

>>134975402
He's not completely wrong. In the material book for the limited edition of the Blu-ray, there's a text from Urobuchi where he states that he had trouble finding a good conclusion for the movie, he himself didn't find Homura being saved by the Law of Cycles a satisfying end. Shinbo thought so, too, and then proposed to make Homura defy Madoka as an enemy.
However, Shinbo did not have to persuade Urobuchi to use that idea, he apparently gladly took it.

>>134970893
Don't blame Shinbo. He and Shaft were just paid to adapt Nisekoi. Blame Komi for being a hack.

>>134975824
Yes, that's what I meant to say. Most people focus on the idea that Urobuchi was forced to do it, because...I dunno, they like pointless drama? Of course, there's also no evidence to the other thing he's saying that they just wanted to make more money off merchandise because there's just as much evidence to suggest they just wanted to make more Madoka related content.

>>134975287
Shinbo didn't direct Rebellion. Yukihiro Miyamoto did.

>>134975927
>. Most people focus on the idea that Urobuchi was forced to do it, because...I dunno, they like pointless drama?
They only say that because they hated the movie and couldn't understand why the series had to be "ruined".

Honestly 50% of why /a/ hates Rebellion is because it doesn't fit their headcanon about what should have happened.

>>134975947
They are both listed as director.

How much did Shinbo have to do with Madoka? Did he write anything? Did he personally direct it or did he stamp his name on it like he does with all other Shaft shows?

>>134976091
He was the fucking director.

>>134976000
That's adorable of them to feel that entitled.

>>134976000
>50% of why /a/ hates Rebellion is because they think something else should have happened instead of what did
This seems pretty reasonable.

>>134976091
Watch Shirobako.

>>134976347
I did but Shaft sounds like an unconventional studio run by a guy who's role is mysterious. He's listed as one of two directors of every single show so I'm pretty sure he doesn't actually direct.

He is getting currently working on the Gaim sequel.

>>134957271
He will write whole 1cour scripts for Nitro+ original anime that would be shown in AnimeJapan 2016.

You can screencap this.

>>134957271
Masterpieces take time to create

>>134976091
This was covered on the commentary track of the TV series, the episode with Miyamoto. Episode 6? I think.

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>>134964674
Best scene in #24

>>134978855
What? That fight was butchered. And not in a good way.

>>134978871
Still the best scene in episode 24.

https://youtu.be/thMkY1B44NM

>>134978936
Well that's not saying a whole lot.

>>134978959
The whole Grail/Kiritsugu's introspective was really fascinating to watch too. He's a very interesting character.

>>134966030
That's not Mami, anon.

>>134957271
Psychopass movie was awful

>>134958688
That's why he left production after third episode.

>>134980156
No, it was great and set-up S3 perfectly

>>134980156
I'm gonna assume you understand English and that might have something to do with that opinion you've got.

>>134968947
lewd

>>134957271
>[To

Wasn't he the lead writer on Kamen Rider Gaim? That was after psycho-pass wasn't it?

>>134980156
You're awful faggot.