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>2003 is better than Brotherhood

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>2003 is better than Brotherhood
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>>134950518
Holy fuck, Brotherhood looks like garbage.
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How did this guy die again?
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>>134950628
He got attacked by a lion and absorbed into a child.
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>>134950518
Both of them aren't very good.
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>>134950518
It is, faggot
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>>134950518
Everything about it was better except for how the gate worked. That was honestly really fucking stupid.
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>>134950628
lion hybrid fucked him over.
Shota homunculus eat him afterwards
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>>134950518
The parts of the manga that were adapted in both anime were better in 2003. I even like the concept of the homunculi and Dante better than Father, but I'd be an idiot if I didn't agree that 2003's ending sucked balls.

Brotherhood gets pretty cool by the time Mustang fights Lust.
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>>134950628
i remember downloading the manga on my dial-up in the early days, man kiblee didn't even do anything for years yet he still seemed like such a cool character
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>>134950518
I dropped Brotherhood halfway. I have all the manga volumes and this adaptation feels so fucking boring despite having roughly the same contents and rather nice visuals. 2003 is enjoyable for most of its run but you can tell that a lot of padding shit was added to fulfill the quota. Both movies suck.
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>>134951290
>I dropped Brotherhood halfway. I have all the manga volumes and this adaptation feels so fucking boring despite having roughly the same contents and rather nice visuals.
well obviously, brotherhood is literally manga page by page as far as i remember
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>>134950997
>>134951015
>>134951159
>>134951290

The loud minority at it again. How many polls did we have about this?
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>>134950518
Yeah 2003 looked better overall but after watching them both again recently you can see the Bones ending fuckery hits really hard in the 2003 version. The whole premise of an alternate world is pretty fucking retarded.
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>>134951290
That's because it is a completely boring and unimaginative adaptation, aside from the fight scenes
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>>134951409
Oh, you had a POLL? on the INTERNET? I'm really sorry, that must be the objective truth.
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>>134951476

A poll on /a/? Damn right it is.
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>>134950518
'03 did some scenes better. The filler wasn't bad, either. It did really well for what source material it didn't have, much like '99 Hunter X Hunter.

Remake was just the manga animated.
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>>134951557
i barely remember 2003 but didn't it turn out that his mother was a homunculus and also literally water
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The nazi movie was cool mang
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>>134951646
In 2003, they completely changed the villains. Homunculus are the result of human transmutation. So Ed's mother became one as a result.
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>>134950518
2003 final battle was far better. In climatic abandoned opera, between Edward and Envy; everyone versus Father looked like fuggin Mechagodzilla battle.
Also fuck the happily ever after canon ending with Mustang as fuehrer, and Scar getting a governmant job after killing state alchemists.
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Brotherhood is shit taste
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>>134950518
2003 did a better job with Tuckers splitting it to two episodes; you could get used to happy family and then a week later KA-BLAM!
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>>134952014
>shounen
>not having a happy ending

why would FMA have an edgy sad ending
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>>134951832
I thought this was way better than them being parts that Father discarded.
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>>134952185
Because being edgy makes everything better.
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Rose ruined 2003.
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>>134950518
>Water (35 L)
>Carbon (20 kg)
>Ammonia (4 L)
>Lime (1.5 kg)
>Phosphorous (800 g)
>Salt (250 g)
>Saltpeter (100 g)
>Sulfur (80 g)
>Fluorine (7.5 g)
>Iron (5 g)
>Silicon (3 g)
>fifteen traces of other elements
>soul information
>not a single material to make a simple clothing
Elrics literally wanted to summon their mom naked
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>>134952335
Better safe than sorry.
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Not this shit again...
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>>134952185
You haven't watched any pre 90s shounen, have you

>everything that is not made of candy is edgy
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>>134950518
Don't kid yourself, they're both shit.
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>>134952390
I like reading how autists pretend that they prefer an objectively inferiur series to what is largely considered the best shounen of the decade
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>>134952363
Kek
>mom back to life in dress
>everything looks normal
>all happy
>till her first visit in bathroom
>b-boys?
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>>134952305
>milfs
>ruining anything
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Is she still wasting her time on that fucking farming manga? 10 year timeskip when?
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>>134952390
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>>134952467
Yeah, 03 was the best shounen of the decade.
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>>134952657
>17 y/o
>milf
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>>134952259
It is much more interesting in some ways, but it didn't work that well with what was established already because:
>had to make bullshit explanations in order to beat them
>creates a very inconsistent naming convention
>they had no real reason to follow Dante
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>>134950518

It is tho
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>>134952185

Miku is wrong again. How surprising.
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>>134952677
Silver spoon has already been abandoned for a while now. She's now on the heroic legend of arslan.
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>>134952281
Why does this sound exactly like the premise for Akame ga kill?
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>>134956044
Is Hiromu the new Rumiko? Spawning hits here and there?
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Post more of brotherhood's not-nazi armies
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Brotherhood > 2003
This is objective fact, anyone saying otherwise is a big homo.
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>>134950628
what was kimblees purpose? it seemed like he was just an extra philosopher's stone so edward didnt just awkwardly mix potions for one
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>>134953161
They followed Dante because she was supplying the homunculi with philosopher stones to energize them
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>>134957450
he was a wild card fucking shit up?
also his role in the flashback was bretty important
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It is because it didn't stick rigidly to the source material and allowed itself freedom to explore the world and themes more in different and unique ways thanks to the directors own take and perspective on events

Any adaptation that allows itself to alter from the source material > one that sticks to it rigidly.
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>>134957410
2003 > Brotherhood*
Sorry, messed up.
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>>134958321
>Any adaptation that allows itself to alter from the source material > one that sticks to it rigidly.
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>>134958658
Jokes on you I revel in being compared to Rich Evans
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>>134958321
Sometimes good posts happen in bad threads.
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>>134958913
Dumb frogposter
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>>134952281
FMA is a tragicomedy
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>>134959037
>>134958913
Go away
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>>134956044
That's unfortunate. Silver Spoon was good while Arslan is nonsense because all the military things are wrong.
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>>134957450
It defeat Pride, so he can become a baby and his adopted mother won't have to feel sad that her husband and child are both dead.
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>>134952185
>why would FMA have an edgy sad ending

Being edgy was FMA's original draw.

"It's a shounen but people die and stay dead."

There's little other than that to recommend the series, frankly.
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>>134960058
Nice projection. That has nothing to do with why I liked it or why many others liked it. That's just you being an edgy teenage faggot.
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>>134960136
>edgy teenage faggot
Welcome to FMA's demographic.
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>>134952701
I like 2009 Izumi better. More distinctive and less generic anime hotness.
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>>134956044
I don't know why this made me sad.
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>>134958769
And that wasn't it.
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>>134960727
She isn't generic anime hotness though. She still has a distinctive look, but isn't drawn like shit.
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>>134960890
She is generic. If it weren't for the dreads her fice would be right at home in a Gundam show or something.

Lose those nostalgia goggles.
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>>134959478
<3
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>>134961574
You don't know what generic means.

Stop defending crappy art to fit in.
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I think people who say 2003 was better forgot most of the retarded stuff in it. Pic related.
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>>134961914
The threaed is full of nostalgiafags anon. You're the one trying to fit in.

2003 had its advntages over Brotherhood but the artstyle wasn't one of them. Ed looked like shit.
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>>134951290
> boring and unimaginative adaptation
Yeah. Because imaginative adaptation of 2003 is much better. Second part of 2003 went full retard between shit like pic related, sudden nazis, plot that makes no sense and shock content for shock content.
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>>134962185
I don't care for either adaptations but 2003 had much better art, there's no two ways about it. You're just being a hipster now.
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so, there's no way to bring back to life a dead human?
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>>134962402
>I don't care for either adaptations but 2003 had much better art, there's no two ways about it. You're just being a hipster now.
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>>134963377
To be fair, Ed's glove in 2003 is better.
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>>134952701
this looks better in 2003

>>134963377
this looks better in 2009

still no definitive proof in the thread
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>>134950518
Kimblee was the one thing Brotherhood did better than 2003, that and pride controlling shadows. Everything else was better in 2003 or equally good/bad.
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>>134963512
There's proof that you have shit taste.
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>>134950943
>My animal sense are telling me I have to kill you!

I loved those guys
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>>134962064
This shit, some of the filler, the plot twist, and the ending keeps 2003 from trumping Brotherhood.
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2003 FMA fans seem to always be the kind of edgy faggots that you see at conventions that never graduated beyond Hot Topic fashion in high school.
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FMA:B is better than original FMA because there is more of Winry in there.
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>>134950628
Vore
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'03 and brotherhood are both very good for different reasons. I just like '03 more because the larger emphasis on family and the fact that the entire series shows how shitty life can really be, unlike in brother hood where almost everyone gets saved at the last fucking second and having a more centralized villain.

The first person Edward kills in '03 was greed, and it turned into a complete turning point for his character, unlike in brotherhood where the only character he kills is father and he feels nothing afterwards. Brotherhood is more of a "defeat the bad guy" with lots of amazing fights, but doesn't develop it's character one bit.
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>2003 with its half-fanfiction plot, shit tier original villian, homunculus and lolnazis ending
>better than Brotherhood

lol, nostalgiafags
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>>134962938
Nope. When you're dead, you're dead.

God is a dick.

Not a TOTAL dick, but kind of a dick, yeah.
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>>134962938
Clone 'em
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>>134967393
>brotherhood with its poorly written plot, shit tier villain, homunculus and lolpunch ending
>better than 2003

lol, MALfags
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>>134969305
>I never read the manga
>2003 was my first anime
>what do you mean, you liked the remake better? that upsets me!

Your kind of person is one of the main reasons why people don't like Full Metal Alchemist anymore.
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>>134969628
who are you quoting?
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>>134969732
You, faggot.
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Who is the best homunculus and why is it Pride?
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>>134952392
What are you even talking about man from several hours ago
Do you think Devilman is the archetypal shounen ending?
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2003 has better sound direction
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>>134970011
Silly 2003 fag, his name is Wrath
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>>134970011
Silly 2003 friend, his name is Wrath
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>>134970011
Because you're a pedo.
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>>134950518
It is.
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>>134965609
she has big nips
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>>134956044
I heard she was/is a hardcore Arslan fan, so it's no surprise she dropped everything to work on it.
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>>134952100
When will this meme end. A useless child with nothing to contribute to the story died, it was surprising but was hardly sad at all.
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>>134965609
seconding

Wasn't watching Brotherhood when it aired but I picked it up for that episode where she undresses in front of Ed
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>>134971745
Fuck off edgelord.
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>>134971905
It's literally a meme. It's not particularly sad or even that memorable. If other people didn't spout "muh nina" for 12 years you wouldn't even remember it.
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>>134972055
>>134971905
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>>134970277
>>134970453
pretty sure he's talking about Selim
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>>134971745
Dude that scene was important as fuck. If you remember, even in the end of Brotherhood, Edward remembers that "they are only humans that couldn't even save a little girl". That was pretty much the changing point in the way Ed and Al saw alchemy as a whole.
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>>134950518
FUCKING KILL YOURSELF
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>>134972139
I'm not saying it wasn't important to the story. I'm saying it's stupid how people blow the the scene out of proportion.
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>>134972328
Kill yourself you retarded teenager.
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>>134950518
Lets not forget all those garbage changes 2003 had in the first half, like making Rose brown for no season. Literally trying too hard.
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>>134972328

You must understand for many people were very young when they read/watched it.
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>>134972407
>>>reddit
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>>134972469
>>>/tumblr/
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>>134972328
You kinda did.
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>>134972469
I like them both, but 2003 Rose turned out to be a huge slut.
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I think the main difference is that Brotherhood is aimed at a much younger audience, which also explains its popularity. It is much more of a typical shounen with its focus on 'badass' fight scenes and cheap humor rather than character development/emotional depth and world building. Even the animation and sountrack seem more childish (btw. is Bratja even played in Brotherhood?). I dropped Brotherhood halfway, but I have seen a gif of Lust's boob juggle and it just saddened me that one of my favourite characters had been reduced to some generic anime hottie.
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>>134973188
Manga/Brotherhood Lust really was total garbage.
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>>134973188
It's been a long time since I've seen the original FMA but I don't remember it being anything other than your typical shounen, either. Both versions are pretty much the same, other than the original had better soundtrack, because of the song you mentioned. And the only scene I remember as something outstanding was the one where Edward killed his homonculi mother.
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>>134960058
I would've fallen for it if I hadn't checked the filename.
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>>134972769
>no you
Nice. People constantly crying about this for 12 years is annoying and I've made about 3 posts.
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>>134962064
>Implying that some of that wacky shit wasn't pretty excellent.

I thought Archer's cyborgification was pretty cool actually, it raised some interesting implications about automail technology.
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>>134975857
I don't think you know what "no you" means, edge-kun.
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>>134976005
I wish they did more with it though if I remember correctly he only appeared in a handful of scenes.
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2003 didn't have greedling
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>>134967393
>this anime is good because it follows the manga

Logic at its most retarded.
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>>134973685
>It's been a long time since I've seen the original FMA but I don't remember it being anything other than your typical shounen, either

No. 2003 was completely different from Brotherhood.
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>>134977840
So 2003 is better?
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For me Brotherhood and the Manga completely collapse at the fight with Father.

Not even the capital arc, just the fight with Father.
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>>134958643
big homo
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>>134962187
unless that automail is super light, the moment of inertia about his vertical axis is fucked if he tries to walk.
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>>134963636
The side characters in 03 are woefully underused and basically forgotten.
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>>134979260
I like having a surplus of characters and unfinished stories. It gives the world more depth and characters aren't just cogs in the machine of the plot. Tolkien would approve.
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>>134979463
> characters aren't just cogs in the machine of the plot
Yeah. They are plot device in forced drama instead.
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>>134950518
I still think 2003 FMA handled the source material a lot better than Brotherhood ever did. Better art, more consistent tone, good pacing, etc.

But it went downhill when it went full filler.
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>>134965609
Winry grate on anyone else watching Brotherhood?

She's more competent and plot relevant than standard shonen love-interests, but the majority of her dynamic with Ed was just the joke of her beating him with a wrench.
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I watched Sacred Star of Milos for the first time recently, I actually kind of liked it.
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>>134960058
I liked 2003 because it was a story about two brothers trying to fix their fuck up.

The ending made all of the experiences that Alphonse had worthless and it showed that the two brothers were too stupid to understand eachother's feelings because they valued how they felt about the other more.
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>>134950518
No arguments here. The writing was a lot better.
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Something I think was underappreciated about the 2003 version was how they handled Hughes and the brother's relationship. We got to see them meet him on the train, aid in the birth of his child, interact with him during the Shou Tucker apprenticeship, etc. It actually made me care when he died.
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>All this people defending 2003
If you have ever entertained the thought that filler was better than canon please suicide as soon as you can.
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>>134983172
I liked the ending of 2003, it wasn't generic. They managed to evade fate at the cost of Alphonse's memories. The show explored the nature of cost vs benefits and fate vs emptiness in interesting ways.

I haven't seen either in a long time, so my own memory is shakey
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I liked 2003 Barry the Chopper. Brotherhood Barry was fun, but the first anime made him out to be more of a legitimate threat.
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>>134984257
Brotherhood's primary redeeming factor, and, I guess, main reason to see it if you haven't yet, is that it followed the manga it was based on, not the quality of its writing, soundtrack, animation, art, pacing, or characterization. Why don't Narutards and SAOfags use this argument more?

>Well, you see, this anime can't be shit. Because it followed the (shitty) light novel.

Good anime original content IS superior to content adapted from a mediocre manga. But this is obvious to any fanbase outside of Brotherhoodfags.
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