How did this guy die again?
The parts of the manga that were adapted in both anime were better in 2003. I even like the concept of the homunculi and Dante better than Father, but I'd be an idiot if I didn't agree that 2003's ending sucked balls.
Brotherhood gets pretty cool by the time Mustang fights Lust.
I dropped Brotherhood halfway. I have all the manga volumes and this adaptation feels so fucking boring despite having roughly the same contents and rather nice visuals. 2003 is enjoyable for most of its run but you can tell that a lot of padding shit was added to fulfill the quota. Both movies suck.
>I dropped Brotherhood halfway. I have all the manga volumes and this adaptation feels so fucking boring despite having roughly the same contents and rather nice visuals.
well obviously, brotherhood is literally manga page by page as far as i remember
Yeah 2003 looked better overall but after watching them both again recently you can see the Bones ending fuckery hits really hard in the 2003 version. The whole premise of an
alternate worldis pretty fucking retarded.
'03 did some scenes better. The filler wasn't bad, either. It did really well for what source material it didn't have, much like '99 Hunter X Hunter.
Remake was just the manga animated.
2003 final battle was far better. In climatic abandoned opera, between Edward and Envy; everyone versus Father looked like fuggin Mechagodzilla battle.
Also fuck the happily ever after canon ending with Mustang as fuehrer, and Scar getting a governmant job after killing state alchemists.
2003 did a better job with Tuckers splitting it to two episodes; you could get used to happy family and then a week later KA-BLAM!
>not having a happy ending
why would FMA have an edgy sad ending
Because being edgy makes everything better.
>Water (35 L)
>Carbon (20 kg)
>Ammonia (4 L)
>Lime (1.5 kg)
>Phosphorous (800 g)
>Salt (250 g)
>Saltpeter (100 g)
>Sulfur (80 g)
>Fluorine (7.5 g)
>Iron (5 g)
>Silicon (3 g)
>fifteen traces of other elements
>not a single material to make a simple clothing
Elrics literally wanted to summon their mom naked
I like reading how autists pretend that they prefer an objectively inferiur series to what is largely considered the best shounen of the decade
Is she still wasting her time on that fucking farming manga? 10 year timeskip when?
It is much more interesting in some ways, but it didn't work that well with what was established already because:
>had to make bullshit explanations in order to beat them
>creates a very inconsistent naming convention
>they had no real reason to follow Dante
It is because it didn't stick rigidly to the source material and allowed itself freedom to explore the world and themes more in different and unique ways thanks to the directors own take and perspective on events
Any adaptation that allows itself to alter from the source material > one that sticks to it rigidly.
>Any adaptation that allows itself to alter from the source material > one that sticks to it rigidly.
>why would FMA have an edgy sad ending
Being edgy was FMA's original draw.
"It's a shounen but people die and stay dead."
There's little other than that to recommend the series, frankly.
I think people who say 2003 was better forgot most of the retarded stuff in it. Pic related.
> boring and unimaginative adaptation
Yeah. Because imaginative adaptation of 2003 is much better. Second part of 2003 went full retard between shit like pic related, sudden nazis, plot that makes no sense and shock content for shock content.
>I don't care for either adaptations but 2003 had much better art, there's no two ways about it. You're just being a hipster now.
FMA:B is better than original FMA because there is more of Winry in there.
'03 and brotherhood are both very good for different reasons. I just like '03 more because the larger emphasis on family and the fact that the entire series shows how shitty life can really be, unlike in brother hood where almost everyone gets saved at the last fucking second and having a more centralized villain.
The first person Edward kills in '03 was greed, and it turned into a complete turning point for his character, unlike in brotherhood where the only character he kills is father and he feels nothing afterwards. Brotherhood is more of a "defeat the bad guy" with lots of amazing fights, but doesn't develop it's character one bit.
>I never read the manga
>2003 was my first anime
>what do you mean, you liked the remake better? that upsets me!
Your kind of person is one of the main reasons why people don't like Full Metal Alchemist anymore.
Dude that scene was important as fuck. If you remember, even in the end of Brotherhood, Edward remembers that "they are only humans that couldn't even save a little girl". That was pretty much the changing point in the way Ed and Al saw alchemy as a whole.
She is rather well drawn.
I think the main difference is that Brotherhood is aimed at a much younger audience, which also explains its popularity. It is much more of a typical shounen with its focus on 'badass' fight scenes and cheap humor rather than character development/emotional depth and world building. Even the animation and sountrack seem more childish (btw. is Bratja even played in Brotherhood?). I dropped Brotherhood halfway, but I have seen a gif of Lust's boob juggle and it just saddened me that one of my favourite characters had been reduced to some generic anime hottie.
It's been a long time since I've seen the original FMA but I don't remember it being anything other than your typical shounen, either. Both versions are pretty much the same, other than the original had better soundtrack, because of the song you mentioned. And the only scene I remember as something outstanding was the one where Edward killed his homonculi mother.
>Implying that some of that wacky shit wasn't pretty excellent.
I thought Archer's cyborgification was pretty cool actually, it raised some interesting implications about automail technology.
>It's been a long time since I've seen the original FMA but I don't remember it being anything other than your typical shounen, either
No. 2003 was completely different from Brotherhood.
I still think 2003 FMA handled the source material a lot better than Brotherhood ever did. Better art, more consistent tone, good pacing, etc.
But it went downhill when it went full filler.
Winry grate on anyone else watching Brotherhood?
She's more competent and plot relevant than standard shonen love-interests, but the majority of her dynamic with Ed was just the joke of her beating him with a wrench.
I liked 2003 because it was a story about two brothers trying to fix their fuck up.
The ending made all of the experiences that Alphonse had worthless and it showed that the two brothers were too stupid to understand eachother's feelings because they valued how they felt about the other more.
Something I think was underappreciated about the 2003 version was how they handled Hughes and the brother's relationship. We got to see them meet him on the train, aid in the birth of his child, interact with him during the Shou Tucker apprenticeship, etc. It actually made me care when he died.
>All this people defending 2003
If you have ever entertained the thought that filler was better than canon please suicide as soon as you can.
I liked the ending of 2003, it wasn't generic. They managed to evade fate at the cost of Alphonse's memories. The show explored the nature of cost vs benefits and fate vs emptiness in interesting ways.
I haven't seen either in a long time, so my own memory is shakey
Brotherhood's primary redeeming factor, and, I guess, main reason to see it if you haven't yet, is that it followed the manga it was based on, not the quality of its writing, soundtrack, animation, art, pacing, or characterization. Why don't Narutards and SAOfags use this argument more?
>Well, you see, this anime can't be shit. Because it followed the (shitty) light novel.
Good anime original content IS superior to content adapted from a mediocre manga. But this is obvious to any fanbase outside of Brotherhoodfags.