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So what's /a/'s opinion on Trigun? I've never

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So what's /a/'s opinion on Trigun? I've never seen it discussed on here.
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The animu was one of my gateway shows. Sometimes my song library shuffles to Sound Life and I'm hit with this wave of nostalgia.

I really liked the manga as well (I have Trigun + the first five volumes of Maximum on my shelf) but the paneling in action scenes is fucking awful. I remember Vash vs Midvalley the Hornfreak being impossible to follow.
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There's was some new movie IIRC which I didn't see. Series was awesome, 8/10.
Too bad most of /a/ don't watch anything made before 2010.
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>>134841659
I find all manga except Berserk hard to follow

Its just fucking too dense
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>>134841681
>41681 ▶
>There's was some new movie IIRC which I didn't see. Series was awesome, 8/10.

I should really get down to watch the movie sometime. I heard it's real good.
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Good show, it starts out a little formulatic but once the main story kicks in it becomes awesome, and while the ending isn't anything surprising the final battle is just beautifully animated.
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>>134841659
>>134841681
>>134841691
Did you guys think the ending with Knives in the anime was a letdown compared to the ending in the manga? I liked the idea of Knives pretty much ending than him just getting beat up.
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>>134841747
It's not really that good, they basically just remade episode 5 of the show where the whole town is after him and stretched it out over a movie.
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I'm mad Vash and Meryl never kissed
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>>134841893

But at least Milly and Wolfwood fucked.
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>>134841928
Yeah, but Wolfwood is fucking dead.

At least Vash's feelings for Meryl were obvious in the manga.
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>>134841546
It gets short-lived threads once almost every week actually. But yeah, most of the time I see people think it's good, with the only real issue being that the animation tends to dip a couple of times in the series. It's mostly the story and Vash's characterization that carries the entire show.
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>>134841546
The manga had some awesome fight scenes near the end
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>>134842016
I liked how Wolfwood died. I didn't want him to die but I think they did a good job with it.
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>>134841546
>I've never seen it discussed on here.
Probably because it's like 17 years old? What is there to discuss?
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>>134841782
Honestly? I don't mind either endings for Knives (I have differing opinions of the rest of the manga though which tends to be a clusterfuck of cool ideas poorly executed). I always thought that Knives and Vash's conflict in the anime was done in such a way that it was an overblown quarrel between two siblings, so Vash outright beating him and STILL allowing him to survive felt really appropriate and serves to disprove Knives's point about what it means to survive. The anime implied rehabilitation for Knives and given how he was willing to sacrifice himself in the manga I don't really see it being too far-fetched. Hell they could make an entire movie out of that with Vash/Knives story set post-series while taking cues from the manga.
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>>134842183
Irrelevant since /a/ likes to circlejerk over Eva all the time even tough its 20 yeras old
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>>134842016
But the anime practically gave more screentime between Vash and Meryl's romance to the point that the 2nd last episode was practically guaranteeing that their ship would sail (with Meryl even exclaiming how Vash shouldn't keep a good woman waiting after his encounter with Knives). Personally I didn't mind it that way, it served to heighten the extent of their relationship without needing to be overly romantic about it.
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it was great
the manga was even better
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>>134842182
Yeah, very subtle though. It got me very confused.But nothing as subtle as the shagging with with Milly. My 12 years old mind couln't wrap over the fact they actually had sex

>>134842299
Heh I don't know anon. I always got the impression that Meryl was way more into Vash than the other way around and he never really got over Rem.
Shit, I really should download this series it's been such a long time since I saw it. I remember little bits of it but I do know I used to draw lots of Meryl and Vash pictures when I was smaller.
Those were sweet times ;_;7
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>>134842205
That's a good opinion man. That's what I was thinking but I couldn't put it to words.
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>>134842424
> I always got the impression that Meryl was way more into Vash than the other way around She was, but Vash was very open towards her anyway.

>he never really got over Rem.
Actually this is rather untrue. What I really liked about the ending was that Vash learned to move past his idealization of Rem especially after his horrible experience in killing Legato. He basically learned that he should live by his own his experiences and declared that he would stop relying simply on Rem's guidance while still respecting her teachings. That was the whole point of him finally removing his red coat at the end, as a sign of his maturity.
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>>134842675
I goofed, my reply to the first quote was meant to be seen like so:
> I always got the impression that Meryl was way more into Vash than the other way around
She was, but Vash was very open towards her anyway.
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>>134841546
Tried watching twice it but the graphic is just too shitty. I can handle Eva or Cowboy Bebop but this is too much
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>>134842839
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EQHg_bhCKY
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>>134842858
I absolutely love the series (just watched it again about a week ago actually) but it's a real shame that the animation quality didn't age too well since the story really has its great moments. Still a fun series but it's by no means a good example in terms of animation.
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It was fun.
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Good soundtrack
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>>134841546
AOTY 1998. Fuck, time really runs.
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>>134841546
I watched it so long ago...right after Evangelion and Lain, so it didn't leave that much of an impression, but it was good.
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It was shit
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>>134842914
I was watching the English remastered version and I realized that the remaster fucked up the part in the episode "Diablo" when he spared Monev. Specifically, the vocal track didn't play at all at the end, so all you hear is the instrumentals which really screwed up the moment. I know this because I've actually seen the episode multiple times enough to recognize that the vocal track should have come on (hell I still have a copy of the older release to compare the two).
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>>134843231
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The manga is definitely worth a read. The anime ends halfway through it, and eventually you have ships from earth coming in to rescue everyone.
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Extremely Overrated by Nostalgia. Especially Wolfgang fags, because he almost had no characterization before the episode he dies.

Its still a fine show.
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>>134843287
but everyone must not have been rescued, because Gungrave is set in that world a couple centuries later
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>>134843293
It's funny because Wolfwood used to be my favorite. It was after I watched the series again after a long time that I found myself liking Vash more especially since, like you said, Wolfwood's characterization was actually pretty lacking by comparison.
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>>134841546
in DMC3 forums people told me that this guy was the first ever to go red-coat-guns-blazing. so I picked it up. didn't regret it.
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>>134842951
The grainy look of the anime lends to the western dusty setting it's trying to achieve. I doubt a modern remaking would even be able to catch the tone it would look too clean, same issue with the trigun movie.
Pretty decent show, the writing is excellent but the art suffers at times 7/10
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>>134842424
wait what. there were hints Wolfwood and Milly did the deed??! what were those?
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>>134843461
>The grainy look of the anime lends to the western dusty setting it's trying to achieve.
Yeah exactly this. Which is why it's a shame that it didn't get a better treatment in terms of animation, especially since the hand-drawn grainy look really did add to the visual experience.
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>>134843450
DMC3/4 Dante main inspiration is Cobra, though.
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>>134843571
thought so
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>>134843490
It's in the episode where he literally dies. It was implied to have happened when she stayed over at his place and you see him shirtless taking a smoke by the window side. Most people who watched it when they were younger didn't catch it since it was a pretty quick scene.
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>>134841546
The anime is great, especially for newcomers to anime. A lot more happens in the manga, which is cool, but in my opinion the anime does certain parts much better. One part in particular was done superbly in the anime, but just felt kinda meaningless in the manga.

The ending was clearly better in the manga though.
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>>134841546

I wish there was a straight up adaptation of the Maximum manga, while the anime was pretty good at getting the same story across I would've loved to have seen certain things that weren't included and they missed out a lot of Knive's facial expression from what I remember whenever he was pissed.

>>134841659

I just ordered the last Maximum omnibus yesterday, I agree though, Nightow can't draw action scenes for shit, everything else is fine though.
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>>134843639
It's a shame because, while I love the ending of the manga, I honestly preferred certain moments in the anime more (specifically, the entirety of Legato's character and especially his death).
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>>134843571
Dante inspired Van from Seven Deadly Sins though.

With Vergil's haircut.
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>tfw Nasu of Type-Moon fame was inspired by Trigun with regards to his image of a "hero"

It's no wonder why Archer looks reminiscent of Vash and Knives combined.
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>>134843707
>especially his death
Yeah, that's the part I was referring to. Everything about it was more impressive and impactful in the anime than in the manga.

Though at least in the manga we get to see a BIT of Legato's background.
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I loved both, anime and manga.
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>>134841681
>Too bad most of /a/ don't watch anything made before 2010.
Probably because anything made before 2015 has been discussed to death already
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>>134843417
I guess you have to read it to find out what happens.
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>>134843896
I liked his background, and I'm glad that the anime at least made a nod out of it when he killed the group who owned the slaves. Still, I wasn't very fond of how Nightow turned him into a yandere over Knives. It could have been done on purpose since Trigun Maximum came out after the anime so maybe he just wanted to differentiate between the two versions since he doesn't mind adaptations being different to his work anyway. The anime definitely handled his death a lot better though.
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What's /a/'s opinion on Evangelion? I've never seen it discussed on here.
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>>134844095
Good but entirely overrated and artsy to the point of pretentiousnes.
Cowboy Bebop is also over rated, it's one major flaw is it's pacing which grinds the show to a halt at times, doesn't help that the show its episodic and presents little to no character development. I'd say it's reverse trigun, meh story and excellent animation.
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>>134843126
You're taste is shit.
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>>134843621
aha, thanks! Yay, I'm glad Wolfwood got a night of sweet, sweet Millie loving before he checked out
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>>134843796
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So, Millie or Meryl? I'd go with Meryl
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>>134844967
Let's be honest, Millie needs a big, big man. Wolfwood big. Everyone here is too puny. And that's not even getting into needing to be hung like a horse....
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>>134844048
lmao what a shit reason
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>>134844967
Meryl. She's stuck-up but energetic which is a pretty a fun combination. While she nags a lot of the time, it's really part of her charm. Plus I love the short-haired bob cut look.
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Even as a kid when I enjoyed everything I thought it was absolute shit.
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>>134845592

even when you were a kid you had shit taste anon
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well guess I'll rewtach this then
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>>134845466
But those stupid Derringers.
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>>134845815

Sorry for not being a casual like you.
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>>134846115

pls, go back to worship "masterpieces" like Gate, Naruto, Fairy Tail, etc
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>>134844298
>evangelion was artsy to the point of pretentiousness
don't confuse the overzealous fanboys with the show
evangelion was pretty open about itself, most people just don't realize what they're watching because they turn their brains off at the sight of big monsters
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>>134846286

I've never read any of those. Unlike you, mister casual. Stop projecting.
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>>134845945
Haha! Those were always so ridiculous but hey it's Trigun, everyone has a gun in that world.
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>>134845815
that fucking scene i thought it was just a badass pic then i read the manga
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>>134846977
What's really amazing is no one ever sat her down and told her if she's going to carry around 40lbs of disposable guns, she might as well just carry something that can fire more than twice.
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>>134841691
I find it funny how well done dragon ball z action scenes are done in the manga, it's so easy to follow
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RAB
AND
PEACE
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>>134845815
This scene hit me a lot harder when i read it in the manga.
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>>134844048
/a/ still shitposts about Evangelion 20 years after tho
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>>134844881
I cant take that cross gun seriously. That huge thing ruined the vibe for me. plus wolfwood's introduction. He just appears out of nowhere and suddenly hes almost as strong as vash
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Actually was able to make me cry first time I watched it. Definitely had some heart put into it.
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>>134848589
Well, it's probably the most commercially successful series of all time.
Plus, Rebuilds will never let it die.
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>>134848725
Despite that you can tell they were hurting for budget a lot of the time.

Fortunately, Badlands Rumble was gorgeous.
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why is there no blu ray?
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>>134849443
It'll probably happen eventually.
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Livio made the manga a thousand times better than the anime.
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>>134845815
I did not want to die this way!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMT1Ig38Buc
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>>134852647
Such a memorable scene. On the enemy's side I'd have to give it Legato's final moment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAtlla_G1Dg
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Manga is better

Only issue is the art is weird
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This shit was my gateway anime. I was never the same after I finished it. I had to find more like it, but I was disappointed. That's okay, though. I found some things I liked as of late.

That being said, the manga was great and obviously had more time for depth and character count. Those action scenes were wacky, but there are some moments I'll never forget in Maximum ("Isabelle..."). Movie was lovely, too. Totally made me feel like this series could do well with a fresh coat of paint throughout. That, and the movie's version of H.T. was fucking perfect.
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>>134855749
Agreed, while the movie itself was average in that it told what is essentially an extended episode of the show, seeing it made with modern aesthetics while still feeling as good as it did kind of speaks volumes of its lasting appeal.

I do applaud the series for making a story that had a lot of heart, especially with what little source material it could draw from. Most people tend to forget that while Trigun was originally a manga, the anime was actually made at the time when the series got cancelled, meaning that it could only draw from the first half of Nightow's manga. It was only after the anime finished that Trigun Maximum even came to be and it's why it had all the time to delve deeper in some elements of the series (and to an extent, why the anime and the manga were so different in the first place).
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>>134848940
Still have my Kuroneko plushie
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>>134857927
What plushie?
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Regarding pic-related, I really love the collaborative redesign of Monev The Gale by Nightow and Yamaguchi, which has a more cyborg killing machine vibe to it. It was essentially used as the basis for Kaiyodo's action figure of Monev. Kinda wish it was used somewhere (an OVA, an animated short, anything) because it just looked so cool even if it seems impractical when compared to his original design.
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>>134843134
worked fine for me. were you using the 5.1 track with a stereo setup?
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>>134843761

Ya, but Seven Deadly Sins is shit though
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>>134841546
It was one of the best shows ever and Vash brought a much-welcome new take on the trickster archetype
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I remember watching it for the first time and I wanted to know what Vash and Knives were suppose to be, I thought they were like human/alien hybrids and then Knives is all like

>"You are a plant"

and I'm just like wat
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>>134861974
>Seven Deadly Sins is shit though

Well we all know who has shit taste now
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>>134862108

Conclusion: It Is You!
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>>134848673
>He just appears out of nowhere and suddenly hes almost as strong as vash

To be fair, Wolfwood pretty much had the Captain America treatment.

He's no regular human, not anymore.
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>>134841546
The ending was the worst.
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>>134843417
It wasn't that they were going to be taken back to Earth, just that life was easier now.
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>>134863181
I don't give a shit, Vash blasted a chunk of the goddamn moon away. Had to be at least as powerful as the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs.

You're telling me captain america carrying a cross can compete with that?
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>>134841546
Better than Bebop in every way.
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>>134862088
They're basically angels/demons/gods
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>>134863312
Now, now. You wouldn't be saying that just because Bebop is so popular, would you?

Nah, /a/ would NEVER do something so hipster-ish....
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>Trigun

>Vash doesn't have 3 guns or a tri-gun
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>>134863401
I enjoyed Trigun manga more than bebop , but that's only my opinion.
The anime is another story
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>>134863444
Well, actually iirc
>handgun
>machine gun in right arm
>fuckhuge devastation-scale satellite angel-arm laser in his left arm
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>>134863444

>Trigun
>Three Cross Punishers
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>>134863999
But he's actually the Tetragun. He's got 4 guns. 7 if you count his muscles.
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>>134841546
It's one of the genuine classics.
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I remember the manga ending being pretty satisfying.

I should order the Omnibus volumes sometime and finish up my collection.
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I've only seen the anime.

Trigun: Maximum is the one I should read, right?
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>>134866404
Technically it's "Trigun" and "Trigun: Maximum". The former is when it was being published as a shounen, the latter was when it was picked up again as a seinen after the anime had already aired. Basically, "Maximum is just the continuation with a new name due to differing publishers.
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>>134841546
Trigun was meh, gave it 7/10

It was decent but nothing special, probably why people dont talk about it much.
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>>134841546
Pretty crap adaptation.
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>>134846115
That's being a casual? Huh?
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>>134863308
What makes you think Wolfwood was as strong as Vash? First of all, you yourself pointed out that Vash blasted a chunk of the moon away. He wouldn't use it towards foes and didn't use it towards Wolfwood. If he had,would you still believe Wolfwood is as strong as Vash? No.

Secondly, Vash never went all out because he didn't want to kill anyone.
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>>134866681
>adaptation
While I'd argue the "crap" part, it had very little in the way to adapt in the first place given how they were going off of the incomplete manga (which at the time, would get cancelled anyway). Nightow basically just gave bare details which the anime would make a story out of. It was only after the anime had aired did the rest of the manga actually get finished.
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>>134844048
>this excuse again, not everyone on 4chan is pathetic enough to have been here for 10 years

and besides, "discussed to death" when? whhen it was airing? so a show that aired in 2005 and was discussed to death 10 whole fucking years ago can't be talked about anymore because everyone still remembers talking about it a literal fucking decade ago

tl/dr talk about decent anime for once instead of your meme shit currently airing garbage you cancerous fucking faggot
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>>134867311
Still a crap adaptation and a mediocre show.
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>>134866629
>probably why people dont talk about it much.
People don't talk about it because it's old. It was a hit in early 2000s.
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>>134862088
I'm still not entirely sure if they mean plant as in biological, plant as in power plant or both.
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>>134841546
Glad this thread is still alive, anyone know if there's a full version of the English dub of Sound Life out there? I've never been able to find one.
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i came here to say that i want the guitar chords and the bass tab of the ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEkw7D40Yhg
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>>134867519
It's meant to be symbolic of both with regards to how they're treated as resources.

With regards to plants as flora, Knives highlights how plants are essentially used and eaten by humans (say a fruit for example) because of their inability to move/defend themselves. With Knives and Vash essentially being super-powered humanoid "plants", Knives views himself as justified in killing humans due to the role-reversal where they are inherently superior to humans unlike normal plants.

The series essentially correlates power plants with humanity's use of flora as a collective resource, in which generalizes the concept for the sake of storytelling.
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>>134844068
You didn't like how crayzeh he was in the manga compared to anime? Anime Legato does appear somewhat more formidable and wise. "Yandere" doesn't really sum up manga Legato's character. I think other than being super loyal to Knives, he needed that as a reason to keep going, and he also was seeing Vash as someone similar to himself. His death in the manga may be less impressive scene, but it gives a good touch to Legato's character, as we see that while he hates himself, he doesn't want Vash to take his determination lightly.
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>>134867575
I don't think there ever was, at least a full version that was officially released anyway.
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>>134867876
Not a slight against the manga version ot anything but yeah, I wasn't too keen on his overall personality. I guess it's just one of those things that I thought was too predictable, especially in how he wanted to usurp Vash in Knives's eyes.

What I liked about the anime's depiction was how he truly held a nihilistic outlook and how he really loathed himself and humanity as a whole. I also liked how he was more resigned to his fate as a temporary substitute for Vash's place with Knives and it made for a more tragic circumstance with regards to his self-loathing. I thought that it made his death more impacting because you know he's doing it out of some misguided belief that was derived from Knives himself.
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>>134841546
I left it halfway through, the old series i mean
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>>134868165
>I left it halfway through
But doing so meant that you basically missed out on the actual meat of the story!
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>>134841546

Livio was a pretty cool dude in the end. Hard to top Wolfwood after he died but being a buff 9-foot Clint Eastwood looking guy helped a lot.
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I liked it better when it was just kinda pointless wandering around. when the plot kicked it in got weird. still good, but weird
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Dropped it after two or three episodes. It felt like a shitty sci fi version of Rurouni Kenshin.
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>>134870252

I understand how some wouldn't like it, first episode is one of the worst pieces of anime I've seen and the first half takes a while for anything to get going but all the good stuff is in the second half.
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>>134870252
>It felt like a shitty sci fi version of Rurouni Kenshin.
Hardly. Vash's circumstance is very different from Kenshin. Kenshin's pacifism is treated as part of his character's self reflection whereas Vash's no-kill rule is brought on by his naive arrogance to being essentially a superior being so he ends up thinking that he can control any situation with his own desired outcome (the outcome being that no one should die). While Kenshin's pacifism is about his redemption from his bloody past, Vash's case relies on his ideals being slowly questioned, and broken down/dissected as the series moves along.
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>>134867383
Just make a thread if you want to talk about something, Jesus.
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I love millie's gun
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>>134841546

it's a cool show with some cool characters.

LOVE AND PEACE!
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