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What is your favorite animation from 2015?
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2015-12-16/10-moments-of-spectacular-animation-from-2015/.96584
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>>134834272
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/15820/
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>ANN
Fuck off shill.
I love pirating anime.
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Also Bakemono no Ko had the best sakuga of the year, but sakugafaggots are too lazy to get their asses off their chairs to go to a movie theater or film festival, so of course they have no idea.
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>>134834272
Didn't know someone also making sakuga thread...

By the way, I made new pastebin :
http://pastebin.com/vt67pfc7

Ohira's cuts from Lupin >>134836158 is really good.
I still have to watch Miss Hokusai for Norio and Inoue.

Also, Kabaneri announcement supposed to be released today.
https://twitter.com/anime_kabaneri

I know WIT is dying, but I hope at least Araki can grab Imai.
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Will kraker still do his yearly sakuga post?
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>>134836462
Probably he will wait til Thunderbolt airing. That's the real robot sakuga this year.

Okada is killing robots...
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Russian sakuga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEtwdQrb_Bs
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>>134836855
>babby's first 5 minutes googling of "animation russia"
>wow tamerlane u r such animation scholar
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Kevin Cirugeda is my favourite ANN blogger.
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>>134837334
>>134837405
Seriously, ANN needs to hire tamerlane.
kViN is nice but he's not nearly as good at writing as tammy.
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>>134837675
All ANN writers need to literally die.
Then someone will have enough motivation to make a real site that's not shitty, maybe.
Hopefully not one of those 20-something cunts who are too lazy to watch animation that they can't pirate online.
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>>134837675
Shut up tamerlane, you're a hack that does nothing but regurgitate pro opinions.
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>>134837675

>tamerlane

God no

He has a stick so far up his ass when it comes to his opinions being right it would go through the other ANN writers and make them even worse
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>>134837675
fuck off RIDO you are too obvious
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>>134834272
>Talking about CGshit in a sakuga list
>Choosing OPM 1 over the sparring match in 5
>Fateshit
>Kekkai Sensen 1 over the boxing match
>No Concrete Revolutio
Shit list.
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Can /a/ ever take sakuga thread seriously without taking every little bait ?
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>>134837675
Also busterbeam.
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I'm really not interested in reading articles on sakuga by anyone other than animators. I still haven't read anything better than Peter Chung's posts on the AniPages forum tbqh families.
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>>134837888
Peter Chung is unfairly hated, he is capable of God Tier animation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zsNcbPDyx0
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>>134837886
Too autistic.
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>>134837886
Busterbeam is one of the worst fucking posters on /m/.
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>>134837888
>I'm really not interested in reading articles on sakuga by anyone other than animators
Buy Anime Style then.
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>>134837862
The worst one IMO is the one that isn't even 2015, and Shirobako, the facial expressions are way too exaggerated and forced, why would you even consider that shit when you could pick any anime movie from 2015 and get something better?
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Why does /a/'s reaction toward kViN's article are so negative ? It's just like how Vito grumbling about it on twitter. Is this just coincidence or...
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>>134837980
Yeah, I know Japan has a pretty big scene for that and there are even more specialized lectures and theory books and shit.
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>>134838056
/a/ has always hated ANN, nothing new. Vito is still a tool.

Not to mention the whole list thing is BuzzFeed-tier.
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>>134838056
I prefer talking shit anonymously. I'm not a well respected attention whore who can go against the grain on twatter.
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>>134837862
I wholeheartedly agree. Good to see someone with actually good taste.
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>>134838019
Did you watch Shirobako? That scene wasn't forced, as the characters were literally overflowing with emotion there (and rightfully so).
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>>134838210
the "subtle" (not really subtle) movements, the shimmering eyes etc. feel way too forced. It is exaggerated. It just doesn't look like real people, if you think it does, you probably watched too much anime.

Either way it looks pretty average (as do most the other clips anyway) compared to any 2015 film.
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>>134838151
Best part is I'm not even a diehard sakugafag, only a mild one who can appreciate what makes a good scene.

I don't follow fake internet celebrities from the west, but is there a reason anyone reads that trash? The kind of people who'd read that article are probably serious about their hobby, and anyone who actually gives a shit about sakuga could see how full of shit the author is.
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>>134837862
You're a retard and have no idea what you're talking about, end your life.
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>>134838291
>feel way too forced.
Again, did you watch the show?

>It just doesn't look like real people, if you think it does, you probably watched too much anime.
When was the last time you saw an adult bawl their eyes out? I promise you there's nothing subtle about it. If you were talking about Zuka, I'd ask when was the last time you saw a VA deliver lines, as they get incredibly animated while speaking.
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>>134838056
Because the sasuga """""community""""" is cancer and they are now nurturing this cancer by releasing the ANN articles.
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>>134838485
Fuck off, ANNdevs.
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>>134838542
Maybe once you grow up you'll learn to stop attacking the speaker and form your own arguments instead of writing "IT'S TRUE BECAUSE I SAID SO!!!"
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>>134837726
>Then someone will have enough motivation to make a real site that's not shitty, maybe.

And then you will complain about that site if it doesn't follow your opinions

A never ending cycle
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>>134838673
>opinions
People making money out of spreading lies and having the animoo knowledge of a 15 year old isn't an opinion, ANN writer #4.
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>>134838291
>exaggeration is bad in animation
Neck yourself.
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>>134838672
>"IT'S TRUE BECAUSE I SAID SO!!!"
>>134838291
>It is exaggerated. It just doesn't look like real people, if you think it does, you probably watched too much anime.
Are you trying to be funny or are you genuinely retarded?

Again, have you watched the fucking show, and have you seen an adult burst into tears recently? I can answer yes to both questions, I don't think you can.
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>>134838772
To speak in your degenerate language, it is forced animation. Those extra movements don't convey anything. Pretend I attached the oregairu hand meme as an image, thank you. And don't forget keyframe spamming.
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>>134838860
>forced animation
>>>/reddit/
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>>134838860
>it is forced animation
7/10
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Can we please not have this be a sakuga "community" thread and just be a regular sakuga thread?

>>134838860
>forced animation

Oh fuck off.
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>>134839003
When you stop forcing ANN garbage and shilling the 20-something neckbeards who think they're experts on the subject, maybe.
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KimiUso had at least two impressive sakuga episodes but fuck I don't remember if those aired in the first or the second cour.
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>>134839086
I heard the production values were great and the director really tried their hardest.

Too bad the series is complete melodramatic garbage.
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I really liked the 3D animation from both Etotama and Show By Rock!!
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>>134839086
Shigatsu had impressive production values period, even if you didn't like the story you could at least enjoy the production.
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>>134839133

Because "drama" about middle schoolers is fucking garbage
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>>134837886
He's as bad as that famicom guy. The autist obsessed with tiny toons or whatever the hell it was.
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>>134839056
Do you think I'm OP or something?

I'm not. I do think he's dumb for starting a sakuga thread with the link though.

Anyways, who here is excited for Thunderbolt? I can't wait to see Sunrise 1 in full force. I'm especially excited to see more of Hiroyoshi Takaya's cuts.

He's currently one of my favorite animators. He did what I think was the most well animated scene in Unicorn, and I found out that he did a lot of the better action scenes in G-reco.
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isn't the shigatsu director doing that dumb loli anime this season?
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>>134839243
Oh god you're right, I never bothered checking the staff of that show.
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>>134839243
Why wasn't this uploaded to the booru yet?
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>>134834272
One Punch Man, Kekkai Sensen, Concrete Revolutio
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>>134839243
Jesus Christ!
Who watch this garbage?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZJQMydVfYU
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>>134839346
how is this good in any way, shape or form?
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>>134839175
I don't really understand why the author didn't make them high-schoolers instead, the fact they were in middle-school made the whole angst unrealistic as fuck.

>>134839474
2d4u
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>>134839346
holy fuck that looks terrible
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>>134839474
You just don't understand.
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>>134839505
>realism
stop using this buzzword please
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>>134838860
>forced animation

ANN please go and stay go
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>>134839505
>>134839510
I'm talking in terms of animation
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>>134839627
It's obviously ironic Anon.
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>>134839346
>that 3 frame recycle while growing for 'running forward'
eww
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>>134839175
Drama about middle schoolers who think they're adult philosophers is garbage.

It's like the mangaka has no grasp of how human interaction works.
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>>134834272
>ANN
>Kvin
Fuck off
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>>134837862
Yeah that list is fucking terrible I have no idea why the fuck the Shirobaka one is on there. It's a great scene but it's nothing special animation wise. There has been a lot of good Sakuga this year so that the fact that any show repeats on the list shows the guy that wrote it must not watch that much anime.
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>>134839873
The Shirobako scene was really good, and the character animation helped frame it. I think what they were going for was with the list was including some scenes that weren't grand sweeping action shots.

That's a good thing, but doing repeats from Euphonium was fucking stupid.
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>>134838317
I would hope no one actually reads ANN for anything other than major announcement confirmation. Every single one of their opinion pieces are trash and even worse their anime reviews.
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>>134840068
I use them as a database for staff and VAs and nothing else.

I saw that they actually review individual episodes instead of just entire seasons of anime and realized it's just shitty clickbait like IGN.
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>>134840028
I feel there are far too many good examples this year for it to be on a top 10 regardless of personal feelings during the scene. I don't find it all that impressive from strictly an animation standpoint, direction being another matter.
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>>134839346
Thanks for the laugh.
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>>134840223
I agree with you 100% on that. Directing, voice acting, animation and the lines themselves made that scene what it was. If you're looking at pure animation there were certainly more deserving scenes for a spot on a top 10 list.
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>>134836601
>Okada is killing robots...
And revolutionizing sakuga as we know it.
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>>134840677
The smiley face is just the best.
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>>134840775
Isn't it?
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>>134836601
What did he say about G-Reco?
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F/S UBW had some of the most visually stunning animation I saw in an anime series! It puts even some anime movies to shame
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>>134843016
Is this a quote from some retarded comments section or ironic shitposting?
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>>134837886
>buster "i'm totally not a gator" beam
yeah no
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>>134837862
>Choosing OPM 1 over the sparring match in 5
Ep 1 has far more sakuga than ep 5. That was the outsourced episode if I remember correctly, so that ep is pretty unremarkable outside of the sparring match.

>Fateshit
>being this much of a series hating faggot that you can't appreciate a good animator like Nozomu Abe's work

>Kekkai Sensen 1 over the boxing match
The boxing match didn't even have great animation. You'd seriously pick that over ep 1 with Yutapon?

>No Concrete Revolutio
Only thing you're definitely right about.
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It's kinda funny how he pretends to care about animation and yet feature films are an afterthought (with no mention of the boy and the beast, that's just sad)
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>>134834272
Haikyuu should be on there.
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>>134843857
>Ep 1 has far more sakuga than ep 5.
They were going by scene, and that scene of episode 5 was far and away the best.

>blah blah Muh fateshit
Sorry, I had trouble seeing through the post production processing.

>Boxing match didn't have good animation
It had great animation and phenomenal choreography. It was a better action scene.
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Would it be fair to call Yutapon a meme animator?
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>>134838787
That bit was weird and random as shit.
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>>134839603
S1 looked better than Movie 1st.
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>>134844071
>They were going by scene, and that scene of episode 5 was far and away the best.
I can respect that opinion but I don't think ep 1 is a bad choice either. I really like Kameda's scenes from ep 1.

>Sorry, I had trouble seeing through the post production processing.
I see, you're one of those retards.

>It had great animation and phenomenal choreography. It was a better action scene.
This is a straight up lie though. You can't seriously think this shit is better than Leonardo's slow motion run.
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>>134844314
>I see, you're one of those retards.
I see, you're one of those retards.
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>>134844314
>but I don't think ep 1 is a bad choice either.
Episode 1 looked good, but the sparring match was godly, and was the correct choice for best cut.

>You're one of those
People with eyes?

>Leonardo's run
I thought it was ok. Didn't love it.
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>>134834272
>http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2015-12-16/10-moments-of-spectacular-animation-from-2015/.96584

Precure, Fate, and that KyoAni lesbofest are the only ones that immerse me. the others are too sporadic and use those Naruto snapped Sasuke neck animation tricks to make a quick flow with only a few frames, and Shirobako looks fucking average
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>>134844230
Yes. Yutapon is a gateway sakuga of the worst kind. It's bad animation, a clusterfuck of smears and cubes that isn't very well done in any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in excessive shaky cam and IMPACT FRAMES. The normal animation fan can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the animation itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.
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>>134834272
>Rolling Girls
That whole concert was godly. Best episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CujAo31sfMM
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>>134837862
>Kekkai Sensen 1 over the boxing match
Do you have shit for brains?
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>>134838125
Because everyone knows Buzzfeed invented lists.
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>>134834272
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/14945/animated-arifumi_imai-effects-fighting-liquid-shin
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>>134838860
>forced animation
Will this cancer meme die someday?
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>>134844739
No, just eyes that work.
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>>134844483
Seems like you don't have eyes if you think that mediocre cut I posted from the boxing match is actually better than Yutapon's cut on ep 1. And Nozomu Abe's work on Fate was also fantastic. If you can't appreciate his key animation because of some post production processing than you really don't have eyes.
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Is this the thread where we jerk off over twitter accounts?
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>>134844905
ANN should hire me to write articles about Anitwitter drama.
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>>134844956
Probably more interesting than half their current content.
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>>134844314
How in this fucking world can someone say this scene is better than the fight between the split demon and Zapp?
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>>134844863
Yeah, like a broken TV set.
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>>134844895
>9 second cut from the boxing match
>Those disgusting CG effects
Where's the animation anon? Where's the fucking animation?

You're more concerned with listing animator names than actually looking at cuts. You're quite the tryhard.
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>>134845228
Do you know what animation is?
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>>134834272
Not a bad list, though I don't get how that Shirobako scene can be top 10 material. It's very generic anime acting.
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>>134845477
Do you? That Fate scene was complete shit. "There may have been a few nice frames if you look underneath 10 layers of digital after effects" doesn't make it a good cut. The cut itself is still shit.
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>>134845228
Nearly all of the effects in that sequence are hand-drawn, it's only the little particle effects that are CGI there.
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>>134845228
>9 second cut from the boxing match
Woops I forgot the other decent looking 3 second cut. The rest of the boxing matches are complete shit with speedlines and other cheap animation techniques. The episode has some nice storyboards, but the animation itself is nothing impressive.

>Those disgusting CG effects
>Where's the animation anon? Where's the fucking animation?
You have to be pretending to be this retarded. If you think there's no animation in Nozomu Abe's cuts because of some added CG then you're blind.

>You're more concerned with listing animator names than actually looking at cuts
Not really. Just giving credit where credit is due. It's pretty retarded to discuss animation without knowing who the fuck animated it.
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>absolute duo OP
>shitty smear animation
This list is bait, right?
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I loved this scene
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>>134845918
The author has a hard-on for smeary animation.
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>>134845931
It's hard to choose which one is Nakamura's best work this year; that one or his fight scene in Concrete Revolutio ep 3.
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>>134845918
>implying smears are inherently bad
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>>134846053
They are if they're often noticeable.
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>>134845728
>Let me cherry pick some more
Ok. Nice 3 additional seconds.

>If you think there's no animation in Nozomu Abe's cuts because of some added CG
There is no fucking animation anon. I don't care who did it, out looks like shit. Even if there were something there, it's buried under layers of horrible post production processing and the cut itself looks like complete shit.

>Not really.
Yes really. That's literally all you've done. "This cut is good because this person drew it." makes you an idiot. What you should be doing is looking for good cuts and saying "This person is good because they drew this cut." All you care about is tryhard name dropping.
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>>134845728
>It's pretty retarded to discuss animation without knowing who the fuck animated it.
Stupidest post in the thread.
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>>134846150

This small scene was also very nice
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>>134843857
>Kekkai Sensen 1 over the boxing match
Which part of the boxing match impressed you?
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>>134846053
Smear animation isn't meant to be noticeable during animation.
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>>134846271
That's what boring realist animators would say.
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>>134834272
Kevin is a two-faced hack though. He spurs on discussion about sakuga while basically shitposting other people's taste in sakuga fandom through his shitty Twitter account. When he gets called out for it, he basically just side-steps the point.
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>>134846150
>There is no fucking animation anon.
Learn what animation is.
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>UBW and Hibikek
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>>134834272
>OPM episode 1
>not the genos/saitama fight from episode whatever

ANN is shit.
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>>134846310
That's an excuse shit animators would use, do some research before you pretend to know what you are talking about. I'll even give you a hint, Chuck Jones
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How do I into sakuga? How can I distinguish each animator's work?
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>>134837888
This. I don't even know why anyone would listen to kvin when he's just some random yuropoor sjw hypocrite from the interwebs without any real connection to the industry. If you're really interested in animation, go read the actual experts, not some braindead twitter e-celebs. Shilling for him and his ilk is literally /v/ tier.
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>>134846500
Drone anitwitter
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>>134846533
/thread
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>>134846150
>>Let me cherry pick some more
Dude I'm trying to post the best shit from the episode. It's not a very well animated episode. Why don't you post this godly cut that I'm not posting then if I'm just cherrypicking.

>There is no fucking animation
Don't know why I'm even replying to you at this point. You've successfully hooked me into your bait. Congratulations.

>>134846227
How so? Knowing who animated a cut can tell you a lot about it. Animator's obviously have their own styles and certain techniques they like to use, and they probably have a preference in what they animate. Knowing who animated a cut can help you to recognize these things.

Nozumu Abe is know for his effects as clearly seen in the Fate cut I posted and typically works on action shows.
Ryouma Ebata who worked on the Absolute Duo OP has a strong focus on character acting, and seems to like using smears for his action sequences.
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>>134846500
Watch enough anime and eventually you'll notice certain well-animated scenes with distinctive styles.
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>>134846500
Watch a bunch of anime and browse the booru.
Avoid the sakuga community outside of these threads like the plague.
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How do people judge anime animation? I'm not really sure, but subjectively, 2 of my favorite animation scenes this year are from CG anime, prisma ilya 3 and fafner exodus. Do I just have shit taste or not because usually when I notice 2d animation its becuase of how bad it looks?
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>>134836462
Yes, along with the rest of the sakuga anitwitter people.
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>>134846671
>Avoid the sakuga community outside of these threads like the plague
what's so wrong? It doesn't seem like a topic that attracs many people.
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>>134846738
Maybe it's just me, but there's nothing I find more obnoxious than Twitter drama.
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>>134846500
1. Go to sakugabooru.
2. Download a webm where the animator is verified.
3. Post the webm on /a/ and namedrop the animator to show your expertise.
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>>134846681

Good animation is judged by many things, mostly for how believable a scene can be from our point of view. Character acting, movement, velocity, weight, gravity, tempo, those are thing you need to think about.
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>>134846681
>my favorite animation scenes this year are from CG anime
>Do I just have shit taste?

That's a rhetorical question, right?
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>>134846631
>tfw hironori tanaka was my gateway sakuga animator
Feels good man.
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>>134846500

Watch anime, that's all there is. If you think a scen is cool look for it on the sakugabooru, if the animation is good than it'll most likely be posted.
There you'll see the name of the artist who got that scene, you'll eventually start recognizing them for their styles.
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>>134846829
No I'm serious. For example, when ilya and co. were fighting the child gilgamesh who was completely CG he felt a lot more better animated than any fight in UBW, but that was just my opinion, maybe I am not watching anime right. Same way I watch 10-15 shows each season this year but no 2d animation moments stood out to me, when I notice something it's how cheap/trashy it looks.
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>>134838860
>Pretend I attached the oregairu hand meme as an image
Are you saying that didn't perfectly capture the pretentious nature of the people that were talking? It was supposed to show that they looked up public talking 101 on youtube and don't know how to actually speak beyond spouting buzzwords and swinging their hands around.
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>>134846925
>No I'm serious.

Well then the answer is Yes. Yes, you do have shit taste.
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>>134846970
Why?
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>>134846965

Doesn't stop the show from being absolute trash.
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>>134847022
Anyone who prefers the soulless robotic CGI coming out of Japan over their 2D animation work is beyond hope and should be culled, is why.
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>>134837958
God, this animation is creepy and uncanny.
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>>134846333
>>134846533
Pretty much.
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>>134847089
CGI is playing with digital puppets, nothing will ever top handdrawn 2d animation.
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>>134847089
But that fits well for robot anime since they are actually robots and supposed to look mechanical. I prefer the animation with cool fights of Fafner Exodus to Gundam IBO which looks just as robotic and soulless but the gundam just flies around on the screen pointlessly.
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KnK movie came out this year didn't it?

https://sakuga.yshi.org/post?tags=kyoukai_no_kanata+
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>>134847201
KyoAni effects animation is so good.
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https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/19132

No love for Ohira's Lupin the Third scene?
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>>134847280
Ohira is shit m8.
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>>134839603
More frames isn't always better. They have to be used right.
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>>134847187
If you've seen some of the best of handdrawn mecha animation in action, for example from old Gundam OVA's, the modern run-off-the-mill CG shit completely pales in comparison. Unlike 2D mechs, the CG ones rarely if ever convey any weight and impact. It's a damn shame mech animation is a dying art and you are cheering on its demise.
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>>134847318
Say that to my face IRL and see what happens faggot
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>>134846836
>tfw Tanaka is past his prime
Late 2000s Tanaka was an animating machine, now his output has slowed considerably, not to mention they're not as good.
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>>134847362
I watched through Gundam this year but not any of the OVA's, except 0080. 0080 looked nice but there's a lot of garbage going though all the tv series like that, sure some of them have a couple good scenes and there's 1 or 2 shows that were consistently good looking, but there's also so many scenes that are hard to follow and boring cause of stock footage and the mechs not having any weight, compared to that I think the studio orange stuff looks a lot better consistently. I don't see why it can't be sakuga just cause it's CG, if the stuff happening looks cool and not lazy.
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>>134846681
You have shit taste for liking bad CGI. Prisma Illya's CG is horrendous. Go check out Cassette Girl from Animator Expo, now that's good anime CGI.
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>>134847494
Because sakuga literally means hand drawn.
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>>134834272
Shirobako shouldn't be in this. There should not be 2 Hibikek. Concrete should at least be in there.
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So what exactly is post processing and why do people hate it exactly? If it looks good in the end, why complain?
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>>134847481
>tfw we will never get good Tanaka hair again
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/18625/animated-character_acting-effects-hair-hironori_ta
Feels bad man.
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>>134847734
I agree with Shitrobako, KnK movie should be included as well, hell it has enough material to make it 10 times in that list.
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>>134847746
Post processing lowers the fidelity of the hand drawn animation. The latter should never be obscured by ugly effects. Animals did fine without it before digital coloring, so why add it?
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>>134847703
It is? Interesting to know. Now I won't make the mistake of thinking it only means nice or good/noticeable animation.
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>>134847362
So how many recent handdrawn mecha that came out recently look as good as the ones back then? Cause IBO looks trash to average most if the time, and the only particular good instances are mostly stills with little motion.
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>>134845931
Man Yutapon is such a meme nowadays.

I want him to go back to animating glorious stuff like the Stranger final fight. That was his style. His new shit just looks like... like fucking Bahi or something
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So, was Rolling Girls worth watching in the end? I dropped it after episode 2.
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>>134846603
>You've successfully hooked me into your bait
No you idiot, that cut is complete garbage filled with horrible post production filters and effects. You can say the animators name till you're blue in the face, but you're literally just namedropping instead of actually discussing animation. "He does effects so it's good! Ignore that the animation is shit and its all digital after effects!" You could not be any more of a tryhard.
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>>134849156
This is the most non-argument in the thread.
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Hand-drawn animation is dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGqkI_8fLNg
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>>134847494
>I don't see why it can't be sakuga just cause it's CG,
Stop posting.

>>134848281
>like fucking Bahi or something
He's got some recent stuff that suffers from that aimless flailing type movement, but he's still among the best. Everything Bahi draws looks like a wacky inflatable waving arm puppet. Don't compare him to Yutapon.
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>>134844030
This.
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>>134841754
G-Reco is Tomino wild ride, but much much better than what Okada writes for IBO.
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>>134838019
>the facial expressions are way too exaggerated and forced

Stop reading there. What's with this "forced" meme ?
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>>134838860
>forced animation

Literally and figuratively kill yourself
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>>134838860
>forced animation

Is this some kind of new forced meme ?
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>>134834272
God Eater episode 6.
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>>134846500
http://pastebin.com/vt67pfc7
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>>134845523
Its really good character acting though.
The way how Oi-chan move and covers her face is really natural and good. Not everyone can draw something like that.
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>>134849195
No, non-argument is "This cut was done by this animator so it HAS to be good." It's exactly the kind of armchair expert this post
>>134846811
is making fun of. Pretending to be knowledgeable without actually saying anything of substance is as non-argument as it gets.
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>>134846681
>Do I just have shit taste
Very much so, yes.
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>>134849910
So no actual argument ok then.
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>>134834272
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It seems like ANN thinks that adding a bunch of digital effects to a scene makes it sakuga.
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>>134849942
>I like CGshit
>I only notice 2D animation that looks bad
You're shit taste incarnate. Literally nothing you say holds any weight. Go talk about how studio Orange makes the best mechs ever in a Comet Lucifer thread and stay out of every real animation thread you see.
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>>134850021
Prisma Illya had the best action scenes this year though
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It is possible to have CG sakuga. Just very rare.
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>>134850001
What kind of anime that doesn't have digital effects nowadays ? And people like Fujii also called webgen animators because they work with digital.
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3036538&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

ANNcrowds BTFO.
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>>134839086
Damn I know it had some very well animated episodes but I can't remember shit about the show and I'm too lazy to look for these.
I do remember it having a surprisingly good schedule (for the most part), some episodes only had one KA/AD.
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>>134850159
I'm not saying digital effects is bad or isn't used. I'm talking about the Hibike (at least the 1st one) and UBW scenes they have. Neither of them is really that impressive from an animation perspective. It's just smeared with some nice digital effects to make it visually attractive.
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>>134850191
Which post were you trying to link to?
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>>134850238
from kViN himself / Yuyucow. I'm not used with ANNforum, so I don't know how to link a single post (and seems it can't)
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>>134849156
But it's not all digital after effects. Those cuts do have hand-drawn effects animation in them. I don't think they're particularly good, nor do they make up for the awful post-processing, but you can't deny that it's there.
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>>134850219
>Neither of them is really that impressive from an animation perspective.
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>>134850059
>best action scenes
If you're not a lolifag, loli on loli rape doesn't qualify as best action scene.

>>134850113
>It is possible to have CG sakuga.
It's really not though. Definitions aside, it all looks like shit.

>>134850159
>What kind of anime that doesn't have digital effects nowadays ?
All is done with digital coloring, but covering your scenes with digital after effects till you can't see anything underneath what looks like unicorn vomit doesn't make something a good scene.

>webgen animators
Webgen is just a tool that still makes use of the same skillset, and can produce beautiful animation.
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>>134850219
Are you blind?
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>>134834346
Otsuka said on Twitter that he is taking the Trigger staff to watch Force Awakens this weekend. What a bro.

>>134850328
The Peanuts movie looks wonderful.
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>>134850219
As for Hibike, that's a bias since kViN is huge fan of KyoAni, but I agree that the post production in KyoAni is so good. (Though as you said, the character acting itself is typical KyoAni's animators, great but not something I called spectacular).

Well, for UBW....he said that he put it because it will make his opinion less bias (since he hates UBW).
And yes, Abe's effects is overkill.
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>>134850305
>Those cuts do have hand-drawn effects animation in them
Yes, there are hand drawn frames underneath layers of digital effects, but those hand drawn frames aren't anything special, and even if they were you'd never be able to see it under all the garbage.

>I don't think they're particularly good, nor do they make up for the awful post-processing, but you can't deny that it's there.
That's my point. The animation is nothing special, but throw a bunch of shitty filters on it and then you have some idiots claiming it's one of the top 10 cuts of the year. I don't know if it's because they're stupid Fatefags, but they're out of their minds if they think it's a good sakuga cut.
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>>134850390
>As for Hibike, that's a bias since kViN is huge fan of KyoAni
That just made me realize something. Hibike looked great and all, but why the fuck wasn't the new KnK movie on that last? Why weren't any movies on that list?
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>>134850390
>>134850219
Yuyucow is a hypocrite tool that panders to the absolute crowd. Like when he selectively quoted the interview with the staff about Hibike to read as if they hadn't specifically said that Reina and Kumiko's relationship is just platonic.
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>>134850449
absolute worst*
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>>134850395
>I don't know if it's because they're stupid Fatefags, but they're out of their minds if they think it's a good sakuga cut.

Are you fucking saying this isn't a good cut? Are YOU the one out of your mind?
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>>134850449
He's a yurifag?
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This thread is fucking cancer and I don't usually say that about much. All this name dropping people from twitter and discussing "internet sakuga celebrities" and their opinions does not belong on /a/. It is just as bad as /v/ with youtube reviewers.
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>>134850328
>If you're not a lolifag, loli on loli rape doesn't qualify as best action scene.
Watch the fucking show.

I keep coming back to Prisma Herz ep 7's action I keep returning to this episode because of just how BRILLIANT every single second of it is and how freaking well directed it is. I mean from starting off with Bazett's entrance(I am sure that scene had more weighty movement and dynamic angles than anything this year) to the viewpoint switching to first person view as Chloe is about to broken-phantasm Exaclibur, or the blur effect on Chloe to signify the extent and brightness of the explosion.

Prisma is just FULL of inventive and very beautiful direction choices. I can't think of another 2015 episode to reach this level of greatness.
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>>134850495
A SJW shill.

He also bitches about fanservice and complained about stuff like Me!Me!Me! or Robo on the Road.
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can we talk about aers now
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>>134850021
This episode looked cool (in my opinion senpai), and much better than anything in UBW.
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>>134850490
>Posting a fucking jpg in an animation thread
>Caps for emphasis
>Fatefag
Fucking kill yourself.

>>134850539
>unremarkable .gif
>.gif
>Still using caps for emphasis
>Still being a stupid Fatefag who has no idea what makes good animation
You can stop now.
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>>134850564
what does a little girl cartoonfag/pedo-in-denial have to do with sakuga?
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>>134850596
Good post.
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>>134850566
>This episode looked cool
The hand drawn character animation there looks pretty cool, yes. Those CG backgrounds and evil smoke/whatever effects look like shit.

>UBW
Not really setting a high bar there.
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>>134850596
nice argument
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>>134850596
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>>134850596
t. Alberto Barbosa
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>>134850596
>being this mad that you have shit taste in animation
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>>134850497
This
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>>134850652
Great. We got ANN, Twitter and /int/ all in one thread.
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>>134850643
See I'm just judging the episode as a whole and it all looks good. The CG was a part of it, and I thought it was used well, made gil feel very intimidating and alien compared to the characters. Maybe the later episodes overused the CG but it wasn't that bad.
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>>134850699
/tv/ is always here too, lurking.
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>>134850596
if you can't comprehend how deep and elegant is UBW's animation you should just fuck off to >>>/co/ and keep discussing your shit cuts instead of coming here just to say a line of a meaningless effort to take down an entire fanbase that are not retards, like you are.
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>>134850649
>Fate bait images
I love this meme.

>>134850653
>UBW has good animation
I love this meme even more.
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>>134850734
Such obvious bait.
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>>134850734
Fucking this
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>>134850734
>if you can't comprehend how deep and elegant is UBW's animation
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>>134850763
go back to reddit
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>>134850734
>>134850755
>>134850793
>>134850796
>>134850810
t. Alberto Barbosa
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>>134850716
Prisma Herz episode 7 is a fucking masterpiece of action animation, ignore that memeposting retard
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>>134850845
>Alberto Barbosa

I don't understand. What is this meme about?
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>>134850810
I mean as if you didn't give away the game with "deep and elegant" you then went on to redirect to another board that was completely unrelated and finally using sakuga terminology that someone who actually knew what they were talking about might use while espousing retarded opinions. Really try harder friend.
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>>134850891
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>>134850885
just a glib facsimile
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https://twitter.com/gojooni/status/677063024990031872
https://twitter.com/mikita2ya/status/676387290357170176

Where is Kameda when we need source for #11 ? That madhouse website sure take a long time and bad choices.
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>>134850868
Garo had good animation? I stopped watching after 4 episodes but it had some of the worst QUALITY out of any anime this season.
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Why are these threads such shit-posting magnets?
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>>134851036
Twitter "celebrities", ANN devs, armchair sakuga experts, CGfags, Fatefags spamming their shitty bait images.

When those guys aren't around, these threads are pretty great, though.
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>>134851093
>people talking about animation they like in a sakuga thread is bad
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>>134851119
>people talking about shit animation and CG in a sakuga thread isn't bad
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>>134851183
But kyoani looks like shit and that's all you "real sakuga" fags ever talk about.
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>>134851263
>kyoani looks like shit
Wrong.

>that's all you "real sakuga" fags ever talk about.
Wrong again.

What does "real sakugafags" mean again? People who actually know anything about animation, have a discerning eye and understand that CG looks like lifeless crap and by definition can't be sakuga?
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>>134851027
First Garo.
It has really good scene by Shikama in episode 18.
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/13624/animated-background_animation-debris-effects-fight

And sometimes nice animation by Hori and Sung hoo park. But yeah, MAPPA and Madhous really love to outsourced their work to Korean, so the quality is really unstable.

Just look at Ushio to Tora. I guess VOLN is another studio supported by Maruyama.

Don't get me wrong though, I love Maruyama, he's really ambitious for his age. But because of that, he has to lower the production cost by using inexperienced Korean animator (since his anime don't sell really good).

The last decent MAPPA show was Zankyou no Terror, I think. But I hope Garo Movie can bring Shikama back from TOEI's graveyard.
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>>134834731
ANN love pirating anime, too. They just won't say it.
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>>134851332
Literally "If I like it = not shit, otherwise = shit". I prefer good looking stuff to power point slides.
>>
What a shit list.
>>
What is this thread even discussing right now?
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>>134851442
Are you just typing random words into the comment field at this point? You're posts are completely at random and have nothing to do with anything anyone has said.
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>>134851458
Why all anime is shit.
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>>134851334
>The last decent MAPPA show was Zankyou no Terror, I think.
I don't remember Bahamut having any major problems. Then there's Punch Line, but I only watched the first episode.
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>>134851458
whether Abe's effects are sabuga or not.
And is kViN really SJW shill or not.

Also, throw this "forced animation" meme to counter argument sakugafag and you can fit in this thread perfectly.
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What is the most visually impressive scene to come out of 2015?
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>>134850497
/a/ = /v/
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>>134851559
Ohira @ Nishiogikubo
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>>134851559
The Peanuts movie, everything.
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>>134851498
I don't finish Bahamut. I just assume it's still far below Zankyou no Terror since it airing on the same time with Garo, which used lots of Korean animator

But yeah, I saw that Shikama scene in first episode too. But once again, since I still haven't finished that, probably I'm wrong.
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>>134844726
>IMPACT FRAMES

I know this isn't a real thing. Nice try, anon.
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>>134851559
>>134851614
But Nishiogikubo was last year....
Well, Ohira at Lupin #11 is really good too.
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>>134851480
Because you don't actually explain what good animation is, just call other stuff garbage.
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>>134851687
So are you just a retarded Fatefag or a CGshill?
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>>134851684
I don't even know where 2014 ends and 2015 begins.

I didn't like Ohira's Lupin scene too much. It's like a poor man's version of his Kill Bill work
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>>134851702
Are all sakugafags like this? Stop being so angry.
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>>134851655
that's only another version of Naruto copy pasta, don't take it seriously.
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/17990#c4018

https://sakuga.yshi.org/post?tags=impact_frames+
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>>134851402
Kevin practically admits that he pirates shit in his reply to someone: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=4700518#4700518

He just tries to hand-wave it by going on about supporting the industry by buying Key Animation books and the BD. Because pirating shit while throwing them cash somehow balances it out apparently.
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>>134851728
>Are all sakugafags like this?
Knowledgeable about animation? Generally, yes.

I guess the answer to my question was "Both. I like eating both kinds of shit."
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>>134851785
You're not knowledgeable just a dumb shitposter
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>>134851780
Piracy doesn't hurt the industry. That's corporate talk.
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>>134851780
>Because pirating shit while throwing them cash somehow balances it out apparently.
It totally does.
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>>134851826
I know that, but he's basically saying "it's all good I buy their stuff anyway" when that wasn't what he was being called out for in the first place.
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>>134851808
One of us has talked about animation in this thread. The other decided that Fateshit looked good, and randomly complained about Kyoanifags to pretend he had some point to make.
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>>134851785
>sakugafags
>knowledgeable about animation
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>>134851887
>talked about animation in this thread.
Not you you've just shitposted other people's taste.
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>>134851887
Someone has talked about animation in this thread!?
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>>134851927
Let's not pretend sakufags that talk about animation in these threads are the same as namedropping idiots and twitter e-celebs.
>>
Praise Bahi-sama
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Who does the best fight choreography?
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>>134851969
Well at least the people who post webm's and drop names actually like anime.
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>>134852005
Depends if you want magic, hand to hand, mech, swords, etc.

>>134852017
>actually like anime.
>actually like people to think they know things about anime
We know.
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>>134852005
Ando. He invented Yutapon.
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>>134852005
Yutaka Nakamura, though his works latey aren't as exciting as in the past.

Takahiro Shikama also a great example of good animator who know how to make great fighting scenes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tietZQSlxTg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6gAAbkc_ko
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>>134852065

I personally prefer hand to hand.
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>>134834272
I don't know why they picked that 1st scene from Eupho, Reina was even off model with that v smile. There was so many better scenes in that series.
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>>134850497
So this thread ought to be deleted?
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>>134852095
Norio Matsumoto ?
>>
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/19095
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So I caught up to the Monogatari series recently which everyone says has good animation, but it was literally just a big slideshow. I liked it better than the first time I tried it, it was interesting to look at in a way but you can barely call that "animation", it is like reading a book. A lot of "sakuga" animation is like that, people praise it and says it looks realistic but then you watch it and it looks garbage. Does /a/ just have shit taste?
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>>134852193
>So I caught up to the Monogatari series recently which everyone says has good animation
Is this a meme?
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>>134852193
>shaft
>good animation
Ever since those 2 dudes who did all the good stuff disappeared this has just been a meme
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>>134852193
I think in that case, you were either just trolled, or more likely, were told by ignorant /a/nons who actually don't know what this whole sakuga-thing is and just think it means "anime I like for its visuals" that it must be good sakuga.
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>>134852095
https://youtu.be/OMk0AABe6dA?t=87
You mean like this?
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>>134852162
>Norio Matsumoto

https://sakuga.yshi.org/data/cf08de73b5c0c7e5bd2dedfd576b851b.webm
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>>134852133
Basically, if that mentality can't be.
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>>134852193
Everyone knows the only good monogatari series is Bakemonogatari, which directed by Tatsuya Oishi. Also, lots of good Imamura & Gen'ichirou Abe cuts. And good TNK.

https://sakuga.yshi.org/post?tags=bakemonogatari+

Kizumonoagari Par I will be good sakuga movie too. Since we already know Imamura working on it, plus we got veteran like Satoru Utsunomiya and good newbie like Ryuu Nakayama. (and Oishi draw the whole storyboard, so it's going to be good).
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BONES schedule :

Studio A : Boku no Hero Academia (Spring ?)
Studio B : Akagami S2 (winter), Mob Psycho 100
Studio C : Conrevo S2 (Spring)
Studio D : Bungou Stray Dogs (Spring), Show by Rock S2

I just hope HeroAca will be Summer. Mob Psycho probably will be Fall.
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>>134852662
Bungou has really good character designs.
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>>134852005
nozomu abe mang

https://sakuga.yshi.org/data/2879c1038220273c8586506c8ff66f21.webm

https://sakuga.yshi.org/data/4b8340f398c7bb8c20186796f9783b60.mp4

https://sakuga.yshi.org/data/51977d1d4864712d7f17ec404d8a2db9.mp4

https://sakuga.yshi.org/data/f98b0f90d0e8a74cd54056a194add16f.webm

https://sakuga.yshi.org/data/31c28a41eca94a2c9e851882c4ac2a06.webm

https://sakuga.yshi.org/data/7adf3ea3de5f67745fb66dbe5234c04a.webm

https://sakuga.yshi.org/data/859e9417d0bdb1aadb7f95f7b6d239ff.webm

https://sakuga.yshi.org/data/ce5b81addcfec521b657f89178b621ed.webm
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>>134852662
Them suddenly becoming busy as fuck next year has me worried.
I also hope Boku no Hero isn't spring, doing 3 shows in one season was a disaster the last time they did it.
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=4700415#4700415

http://myanimelist.net/profile/bastek66

Poland is really such good example of shitposter.
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>>134852708
They're all pretty average but I guess they're better than Ito's. His style already got old and isn't all that appealing.
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>>134852869
Yeah, if it airs in Summer, then Studio C can help them (Unless they're working on the next big original project for 2017).

Also, I'm kinda excited with that new Okamurai Tensai's original, Kuromukuro, although it's not BONES.
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Bones is also doing a big original anime next year, they talked about it at MachiAsobi. ConRevo is already pretty shoddily produced other than the stand-out action sequence here and there. I don't really care for any of the manga they're adapting other than Mob Psycho; Bungo can go die in production hell for all I care. Just make MP work.
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>>134852869
>>134852992
>all the VAs are getting revealed
>all the colored character design sheets are getting uploaded
It's going to be Spring.
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>>134852940
Well, he's still new as Character Designer / AD, this is his 2nd work after Chaika. I also felt his designs is still restricted with original design (but still pretty).

I hope he can got his original design sometimes.
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>>134853076
Are they going to announce it at Jumpfesta ? If it airs in Summer, it can gain more popularity at AnimeJapan though...
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>>134853148
AnimeJapan works on exhibition already got announced, I don't see anything from Bones there:
http://www.anime-japan.jp/en/exhibition/works/
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>>134853207
Oh, wait. I forgot Concrete Revolutio. No HeroAca or Bungo, though.

I just noticed [email protected] is there and not as Cinderella Girls. Probably going to announce the inevitable ML anime.
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>>134853207
Oh, nice. Conrevo is there, though.

Also :
WHERE'S MIRAI FUCKING ARISE ?
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https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/677279213662158849
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>>134853207
>Classicaloid
>That faggy-looking Mozart
>Badass Beethoven with a red scarf
>Handsome Chopin
Can't wait for it.
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>>134853424
We in the Precure thread called Kawamura hours before Shillycow even saw the leaked image.
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>>134853207
>Aniplex land
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If only Okada doesn't touch Trigger...
And it has good designs too ;___;
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>>134853519
Okada is not an animator
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>>134837862
concrete shitvolutio has shit animation, deal with it hipster
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What is Yoh Yoshinari known for? Seems like he animated lots of cool shit, but I never see him mentioned.
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>>134853472
Sasuga /pc/
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>>134853572
He means that Kiznaiver looks cool other than the fact that it's written by Okada. It seems to have a pretty healthy production time since it's Spring, too. Shame it's Okada. I hope it's at least fun.
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>>134853611
He mainly mooches off his brother's popularity.
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>>134853472
[23:07] <liborek3> so, who's the designer
[23:07] <liborek3> any bets
[23:08] <@~kViN> an actual Precure person probably
[23:08] <@~kViN> because the eyes are 100% kawamura
[23:08] <@~kViN> and it's a bit like Kagawa's recent drawings
[23:08] <@~kViN> so I don't think they got a random new person this time
[23:08] <jet_> link to spoiler thread?
[23:08] <liborek3> it reminds me a bit of Kagawa
[23:08] <jet_> want the original, not twitter ul
[23:09] <liborek3> at least from what i've seen (fresh designs)
[23:09] <@~kViN> http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/anime/1261/1450258445/
[23:09] <Arasan> is Fujii likely to work on this?
[23:09] <jet_> thx
[23:09] <@~kViN> he might leave
[23:09] <@~kViN> hopefully not
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>>134853611
MLP fanart, Little Witch Academia

>>134853655
It's Kawamura. Why does it matter that she worked on that shitty-looking Garakowa movie? She wasn't AD for a single episode of Smile, doing designs wouldn't really take much time.
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>>134853611
FLCL
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>>134853583
>talking shit without even watching it
Kill yourself retard.
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>>134853572
This guy knows what I mean >>134853639

Yeah, I hope she doesn't pull too much drama.
The theme itself seems original, although its actually not.

http://myanimelist.net/manga/13988/Kizu?q=Kizu

Meanwhile Goro said he wants to make a fun and lighthearted show, and not too serious.
http://ims.tokyo/

This is going to be fun ride.
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>>134853741
Terrible, no wonder it got ignored by everyone. Literally OPM for poor men.
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Just when they're going to announce Kabaneri ?
https://twitter.com/anime_kabaneri

And it seems noitaminA completely abandon this project. This is really disaster.
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>>134853849
>IMS
Shit's fucked. Only the CG will be good.
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>>134853910
Did I spot /a/utist right here ?
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>>134854033
Come on, dude. Don't respond to that obvious bait.
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>>134853849
Atsuko Nishida seems to be in high demand, working on two shows next season.

And Kiznaiver reminds me more of Sense8 than anything else. I wouldn't be surprised if they also share physical abilities or something like that since they said it has action scenes.

>>134853965
>2 shows by Araki
>both by Wit
Schedule apocalypse incoming.
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>>134854013
At least they're not working on three shows in one season just like Silver Link.

Also, hundred seems going to have good animation occasionally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pNPWOTYgsY

Nice effect and impact frame at the beginning of PV. Also, spotted some Itano circus at the end.
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>>134853639
Okada makes fun stories usually though.
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>>134853736
>>134853706
I was rather talking about what kind of scenes or his style rather than shows.
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>>134854085
>And Kiznaiver reminds me more of Sense8 than anything else.

Oh, this show seems promising. I don't usually watch American tv series so I don't know there's already a show with this theme.

Okada pls.

>Schedule apocalypse incoming

Yes, also that Empire of Corpses thing.I can't imagine how the situation in Wit right now. Must be a hell for Production Desk and all PA.
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Trigger should use their Disney/Pixar connections to get hired to do anime Star Wars.
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>>134854682
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>>134850171
I'm a sucker for this animation style, does it have a particular name? Rough-sketch animation? I wish it would be used more often.
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>>134854860
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>>134854682
Anime is "too weird" for mainstream western kids. They only want fully 3D shit
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>>134854860
Don't know what it's called but there's an anime movie called Hells that's full of it.
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>>134855228
And cartoons made with flash. Don't forget about that.
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>>134855228
Kids worldwide don't care if their mainstream shows are 3D or handdrawn.
The shows /a/ talks about mostly is just late night niche anime that neither kids in Nippon nor anywhere else are watching and interested in.
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>>134855424
The Princess and the Frog disagrees with you
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>>134855228
>>134855326
Stop it, you're hurting me.
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>>134855770
You're going to have to get into pessimism porn and learn to love seeing beauty be destroyed or you won't make it in this world.
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>>134855824
What if I cling to hope, and power through the bad stuff with hard work and guts until I can see the light at the end of the tunnel?
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>>134852662
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>>134844270

Once and for all. Is Aninari's work CGI? or traditional?
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>>134857821
Yes.
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>>134857821
Hand drawn with some After Effect sorcery on top of it.
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>>134854860
Look for Hisashi Mori's works. He often uses cool pencil-sketch like effects.
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https://twitter.com/anime_kabaneri/status/677337873348071425

Wit pls.
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>>134857821
It looks hand drawn but the coloring/filter give it more depth so it appears 3D.
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The webm floating around of the Kakashi vs Obito fight is by far the best animation of 2015, hands down.
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>>134844030
This reminded me of that Psychopass QUALITY gif that looks like it belonged in southpark.
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>>134853655

>jet

As if this thread wasn't already cancerous enough. Vito's a cunt but his shitposting of jet is the one thing I can stand
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>>134855941
>1 moving layer
>looped smoke
you just like the shading and color palette
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>>134850440
Movie budgets are incomparable to the budgets of TV anime. I guess it would be just unfair to put them up.
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>>134847246

KyoAni's fire effects are really good.
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https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/15784/

Goddamnit Dis.
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Here we go :

https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/3x3kxk/10_moments_of_spectacular_animation_from_2015/
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>>134860097
kill yourself and have your corpse dumped into the ocean
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>>134860138
I'm just proving both /a/ and reddit are literally same. Most of people who use reddit and /a/ don't know anything about animation.
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>>134860115
So what you're saying is anime will die?
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>>134860115

I dunno why GoPri looks weird. Why couldn't the team just follow what made HaCha's CGI look great.
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>>134860511
Because they have no idea what looks good or bad. If they did they wouldn't use 3D at all.
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>>134860511
It's just the eyes being too big for that face.
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>>134860643


Not just the face. The mouths too.
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>>134860643
And the mouth moves positioning and a thousand other things.
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>>134860643
>>134860666
There's also the fact that she looks like she's having an epileptic seizure as well.
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>>134860643
the shading isn't nice either. it looks like 10 layers of makeup.
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So, how do you guys cut a video into mp4 ?
I'm using the program that Nainko made
https://sakuga.yshi.org/forum/show/104

But somehow, the resolution always end up 852 x 480 (just like this one https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/18870/) , while others 854 x 480 (for example : https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/19257/).
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>>134852005
Norio Matsumoto
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>>134861695
>mp4
4chin uses webm, retard
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>>134845523
N-N-No way you just h-haven't watched the show, it's clearly natural!
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>>134859566
>best animated scenes
>doesn't include movies because buhh unfair
Kid even mentioned movies and animator expo is a bunch of short films in the article. Admit he's just a poser who's still too immature to grow out of TV.
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>>134863795
You have to pay for most anime movies; you can't just stream them off crunchy (what ANN does) or pirate them until like 2 years later (what /a/ does)
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>>134863867
What's the point of your post?
Someone who pretends to care about animation should look for opportunities to see these films.

I didn't have to go out of my way to see Hana & Alice, Sarusuberi and the Kanashimi no Belladonna restoration.
I had to go a bit out of my way to see Bakemono no Ko, but if a noname like me who doesn't brag to the world about how epically anime I am can do this, surely the attention whore can, too.

But since ANN is a huge pile of shit, even a kid like him who only watches pirated TV and gets all his knowledge from Twitter can be considered knowledgeable. It's sad.
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>>134860115
The sad thing is that that is japan's A-game when it comes to CGI.

I just watched the Arpeggio dance specials.
And they were horrible.
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>>134864095
I don't think many people on ANN or here even pretend to care about animation for its own sake. They just like the tropes and styles of storytelling anime has.
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>>134864143
Yes, I'm talking about kvin, not anyone else on ANN, since they are even worse.
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>>134864095
Presumably he's going to write about things that people have seen.
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Why do sakuga fags hate CGI?Some anon asked /3/ and they said CGI can look pretty good in anime.

https://warosu.org/3/thread/500539
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>>134864207
What's the point of just getting positive reinforcement (my aoty has good animation!) rather than hearing about NEW things that have good animation that you could go watch?
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>>134864207
He already mentioned Precure (so anyone watching shit legally are out), Sarusuberi (so anyone who doesn't speak Japanese or saw the thing at a film fest is out), Boruto (so anyone not watching films in theaters are out).
It's not that he talks about shit people watched, it's that he himself watches fuckall because he's a lazy kid who only watches stuff he can pirate.
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>>134864279
If Sarusuberi hadn't been out yet he would've definitely ignored it too. I bet he didn't even watch it yet (because no subs) but only watched webbums that khwan uploaded.

No mention of cyborg 009 vs devilman either.
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>>134864211
Because CG looking like shit is the rule. It being decent is an exception. It being amazing is like winning the lottery
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>>134864548
So how is it different to 2D animation?
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>>134864731
talking heads don't have vibrating hair
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>>134859928
Who animated this? Kinda similar to Ryuuta Yanagi's style.
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>>134865205
Yoshiji Kigami.
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>>134862829
I mean, for sakugabooru, you baka.
Oh, wait, I just remember that /a/utist doesn't browse sakugaboru.

My bad.
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>>134861695
Avidemux.
I'm too retarded to use command line.
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>>134845228
Honestly, I've kinda had it with people trying to be edgy saying that anything to do with Fate/Zero has shit animation. I literally haven't seen a single episode from the series, but the clips of animation I've seen from it have all been amazing. I honestly don't understand the hate
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>>134834272
>Hachiman's emotional catharsis in My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU TOO! by Tetsuya Takeuchi
Are they fucking serious? It looks like shit.
Damm ANN. No surprise there with ANN. Even their best 2015 anime list look like shit.
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https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/19272/

MORI!!!
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https://twitter.com/mikita2ya/status/677418213349527552

Someone also need to ask his cuts at OPM #11.
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>>134859520
I didn't post that because I thought it was great animation, I posted it because I said "hard work and guts." Have you seriously never seen Gunbuster?
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>>134860430
Kill yourself.
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>>134863420
Your asshurt is so cute. Still sore from getting shit on for that stupid "forced animation" comment?
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>>134868346
>Your asshurt is so cute. Still sore from getting shit on for that stupid "natural animation" comment?
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>>134864211
>Why do sakuga fags hate CGI?
Because it looks like awkward and unnatural shit with oversaturated colors and lifeless motion that will never approach the style a good 2D cut has.
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>>134866890
>the clips of animation I've seen from it have all been amazing. I honestly don't understand the hate
That's because your taste is shit and shiny digital filters are enough to fool you into thinking something is good.
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>>134868396
I don't think those mechs look lifeless, for a robot anime anyway. There's a lot of motion and different attacks and stuff.
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>>134868450
>It moves so it isn't lifeless
Ok, enjoy your CG mechs. This is the future we're stuck with now.
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>>134868263
only diebuster
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>>134864095
tamerlane pls
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>>134868470
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>>134868635
Better than anything by Orange.
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>>134868628
tamerlane is on the same level. Doesn't watch anything he can't find online. Except he thinks he's an expert on japanese+american+russian animation from reading a bit about it. It's funny how he complains that he can't find shit to watch available to pirate online.
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ITT: /m/ leaving their playground again to talk about their big robots being pretty handdrawn or as computer graphics.
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>>134868702
>he thinks he's an expert on japanese+american+russian animation
Pretty sure that nigger pretends to be an expert on lots of other stuff.
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>>134868695
Tomino is a good storyboarder but why do you hate studio orange CG? I think both look good. Both have their plus's and flaws. I'm just trying to learn more about animation not have a pissing argument.
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>>134868878
Oh yeah, he's an expert on humanities and education too. Sometimes it hurts to read.
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>>134868879
Because CG is shit.
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>>134868903
Why?
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>>134868918
>>134868396
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>>134868927
How is it lifeless?
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>>134868950
Nigga u blind or wat
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>>134868955
No? I think it looks cool. If you have an actual argument or criticism I am interested but you sound like you just don't like it cause you don't like it.
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>>134868988
You'll understand when you grow up.
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What is Shingo Yamashita up to these days?
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>>134869077
Learning Cacani.
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>>134868576
>watching Diebuster without first watching Gunbuster
My head hurts.
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>>134868988
>I think it looks cool.
>If you have an actual argument or criticism
You fucking idiot, you got your answer and your response is "well I like eating shit, guess you don't have a real argument."

How about you try explaining how the colors aren't oversaturated garbage, the textures don't look awkward in an otherwise hand drawn show, and the puppets that some jackass throws coordinates at don't look lifeless in motion compared to 2D that has so much personality we can tell the fucking person who drew it just by looking at it?

Remember, "Well I think it looks cool." isn't a point and doesn't open a dialog, it's you plugging your ears and being a stubborn idiot.
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>>134868300
Back at you tbqh familia.
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>>134852438
>Utsunomiya on Kizu
What
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>>134869382
I don't think they look lifeless at all and the colors look normal. On the other hand there are a lot of lazy, boring looking 2D mecha anime so I don't see why you would assume CG is shit and 2D is always good.
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>>134837862
what? Kekkai's first episode was the only well-animated one.
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Does Okiura rotoscope or is that just a sakugafag meme?
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>>134869681
>I don't think
Then get your eyes checked, because you're literally blind.
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>>134869797
He doesn't but Ohira and Hashimoto do.
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>>134869670
Sorry, I mean Yasuomi Umetsu.
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>>134869681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIS05b8rArU
(Precure EDs and Show By Rock have some decent 3DCG too.)

No doubt it's getting better, but it doesn't lend itself well to stretching, skewing, and smears which gives 2D a bit of life. Though I guess Hotel Transylvania did some exaggeration stuff.
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>>134849735
How can the meme be forced if the animation was forced?
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>>134870664
Anon, it's over. You lost this one.
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>>134870793
because i really miss animation with weight, size and life rather than just flash.
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>>134851780
It doesn't?
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Why does she fart heart?
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/19268/animated-artist_unknown-character_acting-chuunibyo
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>>134870945
Do you think he actually buys BDs of 10% of the stuff he pirates?
And buying BD is irrelevant to TV viewing.
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>>134870793
He did rotoscoping for Hana and Alice.
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>>134867583
I want to interact with animators on twitter but I afraid I'll look like a creepy sakubuta.
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>>134870793
I'm pretty sure he still does uncredited animation from time to time.
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>>134870863
Other realist animators are alive and kicking, anon. Iso is great, but it's not like you can't get your fix for realistic animation anymore.
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>>134857821
It looks to me like CG with a lot of visual filters or traced over CG.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKG9jFsqRDQ

【キャラクターデザイン】大塚真一郎
【アニメーション制作】MAPPA
【アニメーション監督】山本沙代
【シナリオ制作】三河ごーすと(ライトノベル作家)、シナリオ工房 月光
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>>134872428
Will she direct an anime again after The Disaster Called Fujiko Mine?
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HeroAca is Spring. Bones is fucked.
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If Bones has 4 studios, they ought to be able to handle it.
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>>134872537
She did that animator expo one.
What happened with Fujiko Mine though ?
Okada ruined the story ?
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>>134872865
Call their CEO and complain?
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>>134872687
HeroAca is studio A.
I guess they already finished Noragami Aragoto by now. So they still have about five months to work on HeroAca.

If it only 1 cour, I think it's not a problem.

Studio B : Akagami S2 -> Mob Psycho (Fall or Summer ?)
Studio C : Conrevo S2 (spring)
Studio D : Bungou Stray Dogs (spring) -> Show by Rock (Summer ?)

Then studio B or C can start work on the next big project for 2017, and Studio A can start work on Kekkai Sensen again.
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>>134872687
They will just call that fansubber guy at Sunrise and use all the company's tween capacity
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>>134872428
That's just an OP for a mobile game.

>>134873248
Everyone fucked up. Koike fucked up the schedule, Okada wrote 2deep4u nonsense, Sayo Yamamoto has proved that she can't handle a full show.
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>>134873343
Why would HeroAca be one cour? It's 2 cours at least.
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>>134871164
You might, they won't mind. The production guys they work with daily are way worse than anything you could possibly do on twitter.
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>>134873419
Unless TOHO demands Kekkai Sensen S2 ASAP.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZGjYjCnkLw

Original character design :
Haruhiko Mikimoto (Macross character designer)
Chief Animation Director, character designer for anime :
Yasuyuki Ebara
Action Animation Director :
Tatsuro Kawano

Good team, though it's going to be production disaster again, since this is Spring anime.

I guess either Okouchi fucked the story so it could ended without S2, or they fucked up all and fucked up Titan S2 too (which is confirmed to be another disaster).
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>>134873723
I didn't know Attack on Titans was getting 2 second seasons.
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>>134873723
Chief ADs:Hirotaka Marufuji, Kyoji Asano
Action ADs: Tatsurō Kawano, Yuuko Sera
Main animator: Kyouhei Tezuka
Isn't Asano the Eotens dude?
Shit's fucked.
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>>134873387
>Everyone fucked up. Koike fucked up the schedule, Okada wrote 2deep4u nonsense, Sayo Yamamoto has proved that she can't handle a full show.

Despite all that, it was a good show.
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>>134873754
It' literally Titan vs Kancolle : the Anime.
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Now that Valerauko disabled anoymous questions on his ask.fm, I can't ask the question I wanted to ask, since he'll know it's me.

>>134871010 epic
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>>134873893
No that was ask itself, just make an account and click on "ask anonimously."
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>>134873723
>WIT
gg wp
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>>134873723
I never saw SNK, but hopefully, they wont do the thing they did with SNK. Their 3D layouts/backgrounds and 2D character animation in those scenes were so ineffective and retarded as fuck. Printing out the 3D backgrounds on paper, and then aniamting on top of them. Worst fuckign idea ever. Hopefully they wont use so much 3D for backgrounds in this.
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>>134873975
That seems to be the standard way for studios who use paper animation.
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>>134846439

Fuck off, american animators have no place in sakuga discussions.
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>>134873723
Looks very nice like all WIT PVs.

>>134873878
I'm loving those character designs.
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>>134873482
Disgusting gaijin creeps are always the worst.
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>>134873893
Stop mentioning them by name or their scripts will alert them to the thread
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>>134864548

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgCpPnid-XE

You just reminded me that the "miraculous" Kamikaze Douga guys are about to release their new annual demo reel. Looking forward to it!

But, on the topic of CGI quality in animation, it happens in part because there is no money at all to be had in the Japanese animation industry. Most animators work for peanuts, and why would many CGI artists involve in that when they are sought after by the more lucrative video games and film industries?
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>>134874157
Kim Se Jun follows disgusting gaijin creeps on twitter for some reason.
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>>134874481
That person >>134873893 knows him in person
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If you doubt CG just watch the Peanuts movie. It's fucking gorgeous and easily the best looking CG movie. Japan just doesn't really get how to do CG yet and unlike 2D animation CG actually requires you to have good budget and just "having good animators" won't do the trick since rendering that doesn't look like a real-time PS4 cut-scene requires top notch computers.
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>6 animators
Sasuga KyoAni.
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>>134874608
Kim doesn't follow vale though.
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