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OWARIMONGATARI DISCUSSIONS

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So I'm three episodes into Owarimono and is anyone else wondering literally why the fuck should araragi care about this dumb Oikura bitch?

Maybe I'm bitching a bit too early, but seriously, this dumb cunt apparently despises araragi because in 7th grade he wasn't able to deus ex her pathetic self out of her little family drama through some fucking non-existence arbitrary call for her during their math sessions.

She also looks like a retarded teenage version of Hachikuji that went through a nuclear fallout that turned her hair white.

Senjougahara really should of just slapped that dumb secondary back to fucking home school then when could of have an entire season focusing of feet shots and bathrooms shower times
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>>134745650
>should of

You have to be 18 to post on 4chan.
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Sodachi makes me so hard, Marina Inoue working her magic makes it even better. Alternate universe where her and Araragi are a couple when?
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>>134745674
I'm sorry I upset your autism anon-kun
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Batfags BTFO
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>>134745684
I see nothing and I mean literally nothing attractive about this cunt so far. Eve if you like being despised there are better candidates for that
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>>134745650
>>134745763
Eh, Sodachi being being a dumb bitch is pretty much just her character, but I suggest you stick with it, because either you enjoy the conclusion, or you get through 3 more episodes and you never have to see her again
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The entire arc is filler, you can cut out the whole thing and there would be no difference.
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>>134745737
>could of
Fuck off back to wherever you came from.
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>>134747405
You first Autism-kun
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>>134745650
Hey chap, you seem to self-insert way too hard and take personal offense. Relax, she just another harem girl marry-go-around.
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>>134745650
Is Math an animal?
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Was the solution of the mother disappearance mistery as dumb as it seemed?
Bodies don't turn to dust in just a few months.
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>>134748895
In what possible way am I inserting?

The entire arc was retarded, my suspicion wasn't ungrounded after all
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>>134745650
Araragi has a lethal case of white knight syndrome.

Also, she did quite a bit more than that and her relationship with Ragi is pretty elaborate. He should feel at least somewhat retarded for how many times he forgot the bitch, despite her best efforts to the contrary.
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>>134745650
Why are you watching now and posting here if your this far behind fucking retard you want to ruin the surprise?
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>>134749892
After she played with him for a few nights as a kid he forgot about her.
After she invited him for math study sessions in her house for months he forgot about her.
After they were in class together for a whole semester and she quit school because of a traumatic incident he forgot about her.

He really does not not know what made him.
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Araragi cares about her because she is the precious childhood friend he loved but was afraid to think about since he knew he fucked up. Araragi isn't shallow enough to care only about people who are currently nice to him, in fact Sodachi is basically one of the girls who caused the least harm to him so far and also got the least in return (not that Araragi can do much in her situation).

She is also a top cutie.
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>>134747283
It's the arc where the final antagonist first appears to Araragi, gives the biggest example yet of what she's doing to him, and shows why Hanekawa actually went abroad when she did.
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>>134749973
>After she played with him for a few nights as a kid he forgot about her.
She didn't play with him. She probably didn't even speak to him. She just stayed in the same house.
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>>134750310
It's also the usual MC flashback episode before the big conclusion, where the MC remembers his past and what "made him" and accepts all of it.

Not to mention Sodachi is basically becoming a regular since Nisio likes to write about her, even if not about her becoming part of Araragi harem.
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>>134750381
>It's also the usual MC flashback episode before the big conclusion, where the MC remembers his past and what "made him" and accepts all of it.
That's Mayoi Hell
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>>134750447
All of Owari so far seems to be about Araragi remembering things he wants to avoid thinking about though. But I wonder what were Nisio plans for Owari book 1 before he decided to create Sodachi.
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>Shinobu VA forgot how to KAKA
>All this Unnecessary long winded talk last entire episode
>Sodachi arc
>All this CG shit
How do we fix Owarimonogatari? I remember even monogatari second not this bad.
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>>134750690
More Sodachi would be a start for me. But from your points maybe cutting 1-2 episodes of Shinobu Mail, higher budget, using old recordings of kaka and only adapting arcs you'd personally enjoy.
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>>134750828
>More Sodachi
plz no
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Sodachi arc was beautiful
Ougi makes everything good
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it's happening.
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>>134751916
Not until a good hatesex doujin is announced, we only got one picture of that so far.
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=53747089
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>>134745650
No because he cares about everyone. That's his premise. That's just how he is.
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>>134745650
Welcome to monogatari, where stupid flawed shit is touted as deep philosophical drama.
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>>134750564
male childhood friend who killed himself
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>>134751989
feet
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>>134753540
That would have been much more traumatic for Araragi, and I assume it would mean a completely different story for Ougi Formula too.
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OP is a faggot and this thread sucks. I wish Shinobu had more doujinshi.
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>>134745650
>why the fuck should araragi care about this dumb Oikura bitch?
Out of guilt.
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>bodies simply vanish into nothing when they decompose without leaving behind bones
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>>134745650
Doesn't get any better.

Honestly they're just milking the franchise now, it's a fucking waste of pixels.

Does this shit even have a plot? I think they're just pretending one exists by having the characters talk incessantly and drop little "hints" that don't actually mean anything.
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>>134753794
That's not what was supposed to have happened. They think the corpse just got cleared out with the rest of the garbage filling the house.
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>>134753794
Ougi said someone threw away the corpse with the garbage not that it decomposed, but it makes more sense that it's still there and the house is abandoned as it was already completely filled with trash.
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>>134750690
It and Second Season are the best instalments in the series, fuck off Bakepleb.
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Shitnobu is so fucking shit holyshit.
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>>134754027
>Triggered this much
I only complain about Owari. looks like this what happened when a show milked too much
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>>134753944
>Does this shit even have a plot? I think they're just pretending one exists by having the characters talk incessantly and drop little "hints" that don't actually mean anything.
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>>134754275
Monogatari isn't even particularly long for LN standards, it's just that it's fully adapted. Owari 1 is a book about the main characters past and motivations and the proper introduction of the villain, and Owari 2 basically fills a hole in the story about what he was doing during Tsubasa Tiger.

Off-season is probably milking, but at this point Nisio writes one book in a whole year and people can buy if they want to see side stories with the characters.
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>>134754449
The fact that we even have a final boss that's very relevant to the MC is comforting. I don't mind side stories honestly, they're side stories for a reason and they only matter if you're invested in the respective characters anyway.
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>>134753540
Nisio sure likes his suicide motif.
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>>134753944
>too retarded to even follow the plot

How does monogatari keep being 2deep4u for idiots?
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>>134753972
>>134753971
The solution is retarded no matter how you look at it.
It's always cringeworthy seeing authors trying to be smart with these kind of locked room misteries.
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>>134755290
It's retarded on a realistic perspective, but it's also kind of standard Nisio stuff when characters have extreme traits creating bizarre situations. Zaregoto in particular with everyone being geniuses, and Li-chan being involved, this would be considered tame, and Sodachi is one of the most insane characters in Monogatari.
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>>134755290
This isn't even a locked room mystery. Its obvious from the moment she told the story that the mom died in the room. The only real question is whether or not Sodachi killed her.
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>>134755290
There was never a mystery. The watchers should have seen it instantly. That's why Ougi got it so fast, the answer was obvious. And then Hanekawa shames the audience by admonishing how easily they got the answer because of how terrible it is.
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>>134755290
Complaining about stuff like that just shows an unfamiliarity with the type of fiction it is. The point isn't for the author to be smart or do it realistically. It's just a basic type of game played with fiction where the audience is supposed to have a good chance of seeing the solution coming. And the real point is stuff like whether Araragi would tell Oikura.
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>>134755613
>>134755639
The mistery was what happened to the body.
The answer being that it decomposed to the point of being confused with trash is stupid.
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>>134755759
No it's fucking not.
And no it's fucking not.
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>>134755290
What the fuck? The author wasn't even trying to be smart. Both Araragi and Hanekawa knew the answers regarding the body since the start. Ougi was there just to proof how much of a liar Araragi actually is.
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>>134755759
They only said it decomposed to the point that Oikura wouldn't think of it as a person anymore. If she acknowledged as a corpse it would mean she wasn't on denial anymore, so she dissociated from that possibility and what else smells terrible? Garbage.
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>>134755748
I'm quite familiar with characters driven fiction, and the focus being how the characters would react rather than the events themselves doesn't excuse this kind of poorly thought plot.
And no, the audience doesn't have a good chance of seeing the solution coming, since it makes no sense.
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>>134753725
More? There's plenty.

Hell I still spank to Sorry I Over Did It
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>>134755759
>The mistery was what happened to the body.

Its obvious she just got rid of it. I assumed it didn't even decompose. At first I thought she just murdered her mom, trashed the body, then blocked it out. Oikuras fucking crazy.
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>>134755925
The clues Nisio gave:

The windows to her mother's room were boarded up.
The room was dark.
The mother would spend her time curled in a corner.
She hardly ate.
At some point she stopped muttering.
The only way in or out was the door.
It had been locked when Sodachi opened it and noticed her mother was gone.
If the mother had left the room she must have found where Sodachi had left the key and locked it from the outside before disappearing.
There's no real reason for her to have bothered to do that.
The home was full of trash, so bad that Sodachi thought it better to move rather than try to clear it out.

If you couldn't see what those clues were pointing to then you aren't familiar with this sort of mystery writing and how you're supposed to use the clues, because it's a really easy one.
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>>134753944
say what you will but the hints almost always mean something
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>>134758247
she'll die soon
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>>134757478
Isn't it explicitly stated during the explanation that the room was cleared and the body thrown away with the trash?
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>>134758247
Btfo
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>>134759736
Ougi just guessed and they didn't seem to care much about this part to investigate deeper and Sodachi didn't give direct hints either as she obviously didn't care in the episode before about "random garbage". What happened to the corpse was technically left as an open point, and it might as well still be there.
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>>134760268
It doesn't seem likely that everything was left untouched since then, especially with the mother disappearing, and that is the only way the body would have been left unfound.
The plot was just weak.
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>>134760619
I guess that's probably why Ougi says it probably was thrown out, changing that social service form would likely require a police report which would then investigate their home.

But at the same way, there could very well have been an investigation, and it wouldn't be weird for Sodachi to deny it's existence as well if she can live with a corpse for 2 years. She is too much of an unreliable narrator, and it doesn't help that there is also an unreliable detective.
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what is her expression trying to convey?
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Just finished the sodachi arch, what was in the letter that she taped under araragi's desk?
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>>134762304
ur a faget
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when is the loli sodachi prequel getting translated?
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>>134762414
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Bat BTFO


monkey best girl
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What did crab mean by this?
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>>134762772
She wants to tongue-fuck araragi
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>>134762583
Is she gonna submit to monkey even sexually now?
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>>134762488
Is it a slice of life about a girl being beaten every day and told that she is at fault for ruining her family, occasionally running away to study math on a public library?

Or about a girl living in a house full of "garbage", vomiting whenever she approach her mother's room because of the smell without understanding why and compulsively taking multiple baths and always cleaning clothes to try to remove the smell, besides having to do all chores, dealing with social services and studying the rest of the time?
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>>134762952
Everyone submits to monkey sexually, anon
Because monkey submits to everyone sexually.
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>>134750310
why does she go abroad when she does?? missed that part or forgot.
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>>134763828
>mfw monkey submits to me sexually
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>>134763981
Only if you submit to her sexually
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>>134763902
Because she's suspicious of Ougi and Ougi introduce herself as Oshino's niece, she went to see if she could find Oshino. She told Araragi she was going around the world, but she was probably searching Japan to begin with.
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>>134745650
maybe you should watch more than 3 episodes? Maybe the whole arc? Just a suggestion though.

Also as you might've noticed, Oikura is not necessarily the most mentally stable and composed person, so in her mind she has all the right to hate Arararagi for not saving her imo
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>>134750690
Sodachi is actually among my top 5 of arcs. Shinobu Mail is pretty meh though, except for the last episode
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>>134745650
So did Nisio right Shinobu Mail right after getting dumped or something?
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>>134765120
If he did then the romantic one wouldn't win the discussion.
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>>134765120
I don't know but I've noticed Nisio uses Araragi as a scapegoat. Am I wrong?
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>>134762583
>teenage
>streaming
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HorribleSubs is a fucking joke. Why is no one but commie subbing one of the most popular series? What the fuck happened to fansubbing?
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>>134765651
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>>134765688
Those errors are basically lack of spell checking and proofreading, the bigger issues are actual mistranslations that I will probably never know.
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>>134765651
that's why you gotta learn the nihongo bro
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>>134765120

Nah, its alright considering it makes explains on how Gaen managed to get the shit for Koyomi dead. Damn that crafty woman and damn Araragi with his shit memory.
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>>134745650
Her pettiness is just another facet of human nature that Nisio likes to talk about. People need to blame others or they can't survive because the burden of having all the responsibility crushes them. Just like how all the other girls Araragi saves had their own petty problems. If you're not watching Monogatari for philo-bullshit and lectures, I don't know why you're watching.

Ouka is also interesting because she destroys the concept that AraAragi is a perfect white knight that can save everyone. Araragi literally could not fathom that Ouka was getting beat and her house was getting destroyed by an abusive father because he has such a twisted idea of people being good. In Ouka's particular case, she was not saved because of Araragi's personality unlike the other girls. It's a pretty interesting concept.

But yes, Ouka was and I didn't give two shits about her angst.
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>>134766617
>Ouka is also interesting because she destroys the concept that AraAragi is a perfect white knight that can save everyone
That concept was destroyed in Bakemonogatari.
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>>134765831
>>134766001
Yeah this is the worst. I'm comparing HS and commie right now and the conversation between araragi and monkey is almost completely different between the two. I don't understand why this is allowed.
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> So I'm three episodes into Owarimono and is anyone else wondering literally why the fuck should araragi care about this dumb Oikura bitch?
This.
Those episodes were a complete waste of time, besides the Ougi moments.
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>>134766617
>Ouka is also interesting because she destroys the concept that AraAragi is a perfect white knight that can save everyone

Bake and Second season destroys that way before Owari vol 1 came around. Fucking idiot.
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>>134766766
Can someone who actually knows how to into moon please tell me which one of these is correct/less shitty.
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About to watch Katanagatari because /a/ likes it

What can I expect?
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>>134766761
>Those episodes were a complete waste of time, besides the Ougi moments.
so they were basically not a waste of time? Ougi was on screen for almost the entirety of the first 3 episodes
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>>134745650
Enjoy it while it lasts, first half of the season's way better than second
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>>134766848
Wrong thread, but katanagatari is 11/10 so if you don't like it, don't come back.
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>>134766848
it's one of my favorite shows

If you're serious, it has no connection to this show however
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>yfw HorribleSubs has made it all up
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>>134765651
NEVER FORGETTEN
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>>134766617
>In Ouka's particular case, she was not saved because of Araragi's personality unlike the other girls. It's a pretty interesting concept.

None of the girls save Shinobu was saved by Araragi's personality, his involvement usually either makes things worse or exacerbates the problem.

And even with Shinobu, she admits to being dependent on his kindness.
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>>134766837
hs is more accurate.
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>>134766837
They're two different approaches to translating word play. Trying to translate literally and just putting the Japanese words in brackets vs trying to find some vaguely similar word play in English. The former seems not funny and hard to make sense of. The latter makes people complain about translators inserting their own jokes.
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>>134765437
In his eyes, Araragi is always wrong. Nisio hates him.
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>>134767884
You're being dumb.
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>>134768026
The few times he manages to do something cool, there are bad consequences. Araragi never really wins and the author has made it clear over the course of the story.
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Last episode was fucking good.
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Why the fuck are there so many typos in this episode. Is there absolutely no proof reading done?
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>>134768407
Is that HS?
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>>134768407
anon do you see the speed at which those subs are released?

I really don't care about little things like that as long as I get my subs on time
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Monkey was literally right.
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>>134768156
You really are dumb.

It is obvious that Nisio likes the character, he just didn't write Monogatari as some shit chuuni wish fulfillment crap. Araragi does quite a lot of good (mostly without it being based on applying violence or being about looking cool), and he comes out rewarded for it. He also has some flaws, faces some set backs and can't help everyone.
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>>134768489
それでもいい

As a snakefag myself I have to admit this made her rise quite high in my ranking. Easily top 5 now
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>>134768407
LITERALLY WHAT THE FUCK. I understand a typo, maybe two, per episode but this is insane, and I don't recall any other episodes ever being nearly this bad.
>>134768445
yes
>>134768487
They aren't usually this bad.
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>>134768683
forgot picture.
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>>134768731
I don't recall the subs being this bad
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>>134768489
When was she ever not right? Kanbaru's being right ratio is much better than pretty much everyone else in the series.
The only time she could conceivably be incorrect is her chimping out and attacking Araragi but given that was just as planned by Tooe, it's not really Kanbaru being wrong but Tooe having a fucked up sense of what it means to help someone.
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Why was this show so much better when it had Sodachi in it?
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>>134768838
>The only time she could conceivably be incorrect is her chimping out and attacking Araragi but given that was just as planned by Tooe

Tooe? Am I missing something?
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>>134768926
because Sodachi's arc was good
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Monkey might be genuinely insane, she'll get herself killed if she doesn't stop-
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>>134768941
The entire Rainy Devil business was pretty much something Tooe knew would happen ahead of time.
She knew Kanbaru was so weak she would rely on the arm, chimp out and have to confront the fact she's weak and either overcome that weakness through her own strength or stay a Rainy Devil.
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muh dick.
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>>134768926
I prefer Sodachi's arc overall but you have to admit last episode was really good, not even a fan of Kanbaru particularly.
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>>134768838
Kanbaru has mastered the art of not having an opinion about something she doesn't know anything about.
It comes from years of being completely insecure about yourself and thinking your opinion is worthless.

Her standing up to bat is actually pretty big.
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Who made the endcard?
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>>134769608
muh dick: part two.
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>>134769947
meshiagare!
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>>134769947
I prefer the criminally sexy hips in this one.
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Why is Shinobu Mail so shitty and boring
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>>134770096

No Sodachi-
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>>134770096

Because you know Shinobu stays with Araragi and Araragi quite effectively puts a death blow against first in the duel to be the winner.
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>>134770096
It's good again now after all that infodump is over, and it still has the chance for a great conclusion for itself.
>>134770158
There is no Sodachi in all but one of my top 3 book adaptations so far, so it's no excuse.
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>>134770158

That kind of makes it better.
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>>134770096
Because you're an idiot.
This has been the best arc of the season, Gaen notwithstanding.
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>>134770240
>Araragi quite effectively puts a death blow against first in the duel to be the winner
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>>134770096
No Ougi
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>>134770473
Ougi can't carry an episode though.
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>>134770502

It can.
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>>134770528
>It
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>>134770528
>It
Rude.
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>>134771176
thank you spooky ougi
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Is araragi a westaboo?
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>>134771619
>americants still unironicly claiming freedom
laughable
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>>134771619

That was a reference to Shaw Shank redemption.
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>>134771035
>>134770473
I love my ougibros
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>>134771784
Well we did invent it, so it's only fair.
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>>134772693
>Well we did invent it
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>>134772692
>the 500 year old vampire
>knowing anything about relationships
>at all

She's a chuuni perma-virgin.
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>>134772692
she's 17 friendo
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>>134772798

Yeah you got a point. She's pretty innocent in that department regardless the airs she puts up. Genuinely hilarious.
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Reminder that if you started watching anime non-casually only this year you should stop posting and lurk more because you are a filthy newshit and your opinion is irrelevant.
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>>134773112
I've been casually jerking-off to anime for almost a decade, does that count for something?
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>>134773197

The faps they never stop.
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>>134773585
>3d image reaction
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>>134773607

Eh used to post 3d shit when /a/ and /b/ were the same board, so why bother to change after all these years?
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>>134773679
that was long ago anon
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>>134773112
>stop posting and lurk more because you are a filthy newshit
this isnt a special club you fuckin dimwitted manchild
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>>134773793
The truth hurts doesn't it? Throw up more ad hominem, newshit, maybe I will get sad or something?
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>>134773873
you're already sad
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>>134774042
so now we start projecting? You are pathetic!

Please go back to reddit
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>Kissshot asks for fun interesting tale
>Araragi starts talking about that Rika shit

I want to just let it pass by as usually as him being awkward in socializing, but that is really fucked up as that's what Araragi goes to. Wonder what was going through her head as he was telling it.
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>>134773793
>one piece pic
>there's nothing wrong with being new!!
Heh.
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More bloody okojo goodness. When will he do a monkey doujin?
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Is it bad that I think owari has been one of the best parts of the series?
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>>134774397

Yes.
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>>134774397

Depends. We talking in LN or animu form?
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>>134774271

Was impressed he managed to pull that out.
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>>134774415

It will be fixed in the BD's.
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Is it my impression or, does Owari uses more random-nonsense-"bigwords"-talking than the other prequels?

Seriously, it's not even that I don't get what's going on, its just that.... is all that 80% talking REALLY needed just to make a point? I almost killed myself listening to Gaen.

Yes, I know that's what the Monogatari series are all famous for in the end.
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>>134774487
animu.
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>>134774397
The books are different enough that it's possible to have completely different preferences over which is better depending on your tastes. It's one of my favorites too.
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>>134774537

Yeah can't disagree too much.
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>>134762302
>doesn't matter, still nutted inside.
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>>134774271

Found it funny as he would meet a kid that was killed by a vehicle down the line.
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>>134774534
>prequels

What the fuck are you talking about?
In any case it's the translations that change.
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>>134762304
>>134762414
>>134762509

WHAT WAS IN THE ENVELOPE?
I WANT TO KNOW!!!
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>>134774687
>when you already came but she still suckin
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>>134762302

She found a weirdo that will be fun to hang with.
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>>134774755

Something that all LNfags were hoping the animu would have Araragi show what it was. Which turns out that was wrong to hope for. Nobody will ever know.
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>>134774395
I'm guessing it's the second part of the Ragi x crab onsen doujin?
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are there any ougi doujins?
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>>134774825
not yet. but there will be
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>>134774886
damn it i want some ougi doujins!!
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>>134774755
I think it was just blank pieces of paper, to show that sodachi no longer thinks of araragi as an empty man.
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>>134774918
>!!

Really?
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>>134774959
yes really!!
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>>134774819
Yes. It's going to have a third part apparently.
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>>134774927
It makes sense, now that he learned how he came to happiness thanks to her, now he can start writing his "new chapter".

>WE GOT IT BOIS!
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>>134774755
Kamiya knows it. He asked about it and Nishio answered.
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>>134774927
They have written stuff in them on far away shot. Those are probably math problems, maybe stuff she corrected from shota araragi.
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>>134775311
shit. Guess we'll never know.
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>>134775413

I don't know your mentality, so I can't explain it to you.
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>>134775413
I need fixed Sodachi from zokuowari as control sample to see if being hot is an inherent property of Sodachi or it's because she is damaged.
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Dropped it when Senjougahara cut her fucking hair.
No shits we're given that day
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>>134775925

And we need to care why?
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>>134747856
Me seeing this:
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>>134775956
also
Dialogue
Dialogue
Dialogue
Dialogue
Ill post whatever and where ever I want.
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>>134776118

For someone who doesn't care, you sure seem to care.
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>>134775925
Shouldn't even have picked it if you don't like haircuts.
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I watched the whole sodachi arc and dropped this shit. I guess it's not for me but I cannot fucking stand the way the characters drone ON AND ON about inane bullshit, literally nothing happens in this show holy shit
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>>134776142
Dialogue
Dialogue
Dialogue
And long haired hotties turned to bobbed hair uglies
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>>134776161
So glad I dropped this. Double bobs? I would've died. Thanks mate
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>>134776343

You sure get irritated easily.
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>>134776191
Oikura's face when you surprise her with a love confession.
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>>134776161

i'm a sucker for girls with a bob haircut
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>>134776651
How much?
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>>134776651
I hope you like math and talking about math then.
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>>134768495
>a betamax that was okay dying for a vampire girl
>ended up being her bitch
>got a girlfriend because she aggressively pursued him after he solved her issues with the help of a friend
>all the other girls love him but he doesn't seem to care beyond molesting them
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>>134776245
And it took you almost 70 episodes of content before you realized this?
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>>134773793
Please stop.
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>>134777200
He already has a girlfriend though so why would he go beyond molesting lolis and sisters?
>>134777517
He makes it seem like he started with owari.
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>>134777937
Yes, and I was mocking him passive-aggressively for doing so.
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When Araragi asked the first servant if he wanted to go back to being human, he was referring to the fact that servants can revert back to humans if they kill their masters as mentioned in Kizu.
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>>134777200
>all the other girls love him but he doesn't seem to care beyond molesting them
only crab and cat love him in a romantic way
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>>134778701
Doesn't snail too? Although she is dead dead at this point so she isn't in the run.
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>>134778828
Snail loves him as a younger brother as mentioned in Zoku
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>>134778701
Monkey loves him in a platonic but also sexual way.
Explain that, anon.
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>>134779025
Not him but didn't hana already covered it? She deep down still hates him and in her insecurity she keeps asking him sexual things without meaning it and partially because she still wants Senjougahara to break up with him. I don't pay much attention to monkey and monkey discussion so it might be wrong.
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>>134778856
>open mouth kissing your brother
>enjoy getting molested by him
>not knowing the lyrics to happy bite

Don't be dense anon.

Besides, she was really playing up the ara in zoku.
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>>134779214
>I don't pay much attention to monkey and monkey discussion so it might be wrong

That's fucking terrible anon. Monkey has been the best thing to happen to this season.
She does still hate him but that doesn't stop her from admiring him. In fact that's a good chunk of the reason as to why she hates him. She jokes around about wanting to sex him but it's just masking her real desires to actually bang him.
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>>134779281
it means snail is a huge brocon
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>>134779214
she hates him but she also cares about him and respects him. By the end of Hana she cares more about him than she cares about Crab.
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>>134779504
Zokuowari: She is Araragi's adopted sister in mirror world
Orokamonogatari: More than half of the book is about the direct sequel to Sodachi Lost with her trying to fit in her new school
Pic is from Zokuowari.

And fuck you for hurting Sodachi.
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>>134775925
Nisemonogatari was almost 4 years ago. Move on, friend.
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>>134779883
>it's almost 2016
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>>134780290

I don't think anyone 'suspects' it Araragi, it's a well known fact. You went bonkers over seeing the loli version of your goddess, and in that ten years ago past world, the first thought on your mind was buying then semi-legal underage porn.

You ARE a lolicon.
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So Oikura had this elaborate plan where she ASSUMES Araragi will pick up on her troubles without straight up telling him? It's her fault she went psycho.
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>>134779281
>not open mouth kissing your siblings
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>>134782722
Would a lolicon purchase MILF porn mags? I don't think so.
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There's been an updated height chart list since Otori. Has this been posted before? I didn't know we had official heights for Ougi and Gaen. They're both 4'11".
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>>134774397
It's pretty decent. Lost feels like a poor man's Hana that spoonfeeds you most of the story via Hanekawa and Ougi, but Mail has some nice interacting themes going on and is attempting to address one of the biggest plot points to Araragi and Shinobu's character. It's pretty serious compared to most of the series overall, so those looking for the lighthearted Monogatari might not enjoy it as much as others.

Overall I'd say this season is a little better than SS, but not quite as good as Bake, Nise, or Hana.
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>>134785242
This is the first time I've seen anything beyond the Bake version.
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>>134755290
There is no locked room suicidal case in monogatari. You are thinking too much to point out the author's nonexistent fault.
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>>134745650
>not a word from bird in 2 seasons

me on suicice watch
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>>134787505
>implying something like passing on is enough to stop Hachikuji
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I want to construct proofs with Euler-chan!
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>>134787033
She was in Tsuki this year. I miss her too, but come on.
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>>134785242
Why are Japs such manlets?
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So I havent watched this season/series yet

Is there anything that requires waiting for the blu-ray release? Fanservice, Gore, etc?

The last few seasons didn't really have a lot of the latter it was mainly the first 2 which had araragi getting the shit kicked out of him, but they kept the fanservice, I can get past that being censored but I don't wanna see araragi get mutilated or something like that and be stuck looking at a completely blacked out screen, that just drives me nuts.
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>>134787755
>it's been almost a year

closer to the edge
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>>134787886
No, it's basically just exposition and abstract backgrounds. But it's the end of the season so there's not much point catching up now.
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>>134768487
>Professional subbers
>People need to pay for this shit

I know none of us actually pay for this, but it's those fuckers' jobs. They're professionals, and should fucking act like it.
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>>134785242
>Gaen can't even reach 5ft.

Fuck that is too cute.
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How do we fix Owarimonogatari?
Literally only the first episode that good
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>>134791199
You stop having shit taste and enjoy Shinobu's moral crisis.
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>>134785242
>gaen 150cm
Is that why she dresses like a 14 year old?
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>>134791718
No. That's because she's a massive chuuni.
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>>134791199
>How do we fix Owarimonogatari?

Bring back Sodachi
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>>134791921
Literally the worst arc of all girls
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>>134791199
Stop talking and talking for entire 20 minutes in same place every episode. Previous seasons still better because they moved from one places to others barring with many talks
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>>134790295

>Hanekawa is taller than Gaen, Ougi, and Sode.
>Tsubasa is taller than Sode

I like it. Now that subtle shipping has slight /ss/ vibes, both in age and height.
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>>134745650
Because she is cute
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>>134785242
>Gaen is a womanlet
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>>134785242
>episode
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>>134785242
>Mfw im taller than everyone there

Also, i remember Karen looking a lot taller compared to Arararagi
Might just be his Ahoge thats making it look like that though
Also, why is there no Kaiki and Kagenui on there?
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>>134785242
>monkey wearing zp
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>>134793350
>misspelling zr
>not realizing those are spats, the ultimate reverse zr
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>>134773585
When it comes to demons, I just beat the hell out of them.
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>>134782931
She does that repeatedly though. Basically she communicates through logic problems instead of directly telling something, including the class trial, which at some point she realized it was the teacher and never said to anyone, and her mom which she never "knew" but was happy that people can change and Araragi could finally answer correctly to her. Each one had it's own set of reasons though.
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damn you monkey
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>>134792985
Episode is a manlet though and it's alright for a girl to be short.
Though given Episode is only six years old. By six year old standards, he's god-tier height.
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>>134794086
Oshino really needed to get his predictive skills to be better.
Gaen managed to sort out Araragi's and Shinobu's issues with just a single person.
Oshino is like "Fuck it, I'm sure this suicidal guy will always make the right decisions and not fuck up in any way. I'll even give him a nuclear bomb loli as insurance"
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>>134794086
POTTERY
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>>134773585
>The original occupant of this room, that foolish aloha-man Oshino Meme was also someone who could have easily fought like Kagenui had just now.
>He had just chosen not to.
>But he certainly could have.
>Even Shinobu in her prime had to respect Oshino. Whether it was her, the snail, the monkey, or the snake, Oshino could have easily dispatched any one of them merely on impulse. Honestly, the only demon Oshino might have had trouble with was that cat in the case of Hanekawa.

I wonder if Oshino spent all his time at the Eikou Cram School just doing weights and exercise to kill the time?

Also Kagenui's comment about only killing immortals because she's too strong really cements her as the best exorcist.
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>>134772692
Reading shuojo manga and/or BL novels is all you need to be an expert on the matter.
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>>134794086
>monkey was the reason Araragi didn't drop his spaghetti all over cat in neko shiro

BASED
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>>134794137
Oshino knew Gaen would step in if things became an issue.
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>>134794250
>Shinobu in her prime
This is intended to be distinct from Kissshot right?
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>>134794530
No
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>>134794553
How is it not? Araragi's pretty specific about the two, and Kissshot is canonically stronger than Oshino.
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>>134794627
He does not refer to her as Kissshot anymore.
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>>134794530
>>134794553
>>134794627
Yeah there's no way meme could take on kiss-shot if he had trouble with a fucking cat.
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>>134794741
Whenever referring to her in her complete form or in her past he does. Just this arc they referred to her during that time as Kissshot, and I'm pretty sure in Kabuki they referred to the berserk Shinobu as Kissshot as well.

The name "Shinobu" pretty much explicitly refers to her weakened self, and she mentioned in Nise that it's a form of seal.
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>>134794470
That's a bit lackluster on his behalf to leave it to Gaen.
I would think he would want less to do with her than anyone else.

>>134794530
Nah man. Araragi here is referring to Kiss-shot. He's pointing out that as a specialist, Oshino is worthy of respect.
Shinobu has the same level of respect for Yozuru as a specialist.
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>>134795208
At this point it's just what Araragi does. In Owari 3, she reverts back to her full form but Araragi keeps calling her "Shinobu" anyway.
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>>134795208
>Whenever referring to her in her complete form or in her past he does
He actually does use "Shinobu" for talking about her past self.
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>>134785242

does araragi ever get taller?
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>>134796246
Yes, he was even shorter when he was a shota.
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>>134796332
>Karen should be a toddler but her remembers her as taller than him even then

What a manlet, even his memories have a height complex.
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>>134796564
7 years is hardly toddler age.
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>>134796629
I don't really know the terms for various children ages.
Regardless there is no way she was taller than him then.
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>>134796332

Poor kid, just wants to play alone.
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>>134796663

Chicks grow waster, though I am not that knowledgeable of kid heights.
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>>134796675
He wasn't even alone there.
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>>134796704
After puberty, not at 7. No way is she taller than a 10 year old boy.
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>>134795544
>Kissshot is back to way it was
>She starts doing thing to him he did to her in loli form
>He gets nervous and self conscious

Always a chuckle when he starts getting that point when around Kissshot. Wish there was more such as that, but doubt Nisio will write it. Hell be a miracle to pull a teen Shinobu.
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>>134796873
>Teen Shinobu

Maybe it is time to summon Daiz and sell my soul for more of that age.
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>>134767769
>The former seems not funny and hard to make sense of

It sounds exactly the same, but means two different things because its written with different Kanji. What's so hard to understand about that?
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>>134773112
>Watching chinese fairytales "non casuallly"

are you serious nigger

I'll let music and film elitists slide because they're well established mediums but your nip cartoons aren't sophisticated enough to warrant that kind of devotion

you don't see /co/ being massive fuckwads about their cartoons, what makes you special
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>>134797113

/co/ has tumblr recco threads and reddit links. People also get banned for saying Nigger. God damn I am only replying to you because I get the irrational hatred when I see /co/ in any post. Fuck those /com/blr cunts.
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>>134796996
Since that's wrong, you are demonstrating that the translation isn't easy to make proper sense of.
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I wish Nisio did more vamp stuff with Araragi. Damn it Nisio, damn his humanity.
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>>134797204
If you know it's bait. you really shouldn't take it.

In the way ironic shitposting is still shitposting, deliberately taking the bait is still taking the bait.
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>>134797363
>normal people

Fuck them and their cancer. Their board is a cancer which is impressive with all the boards around.
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>>134797363
Everyone on /co/ should be migrating back to tumblr. They don't even talk about comics and cartoons, just circlejerk over fanfiction all day.
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>>134797448
If someone needs to be told to fuck off, always tell them to fuck off. Just make sure to report them too or you're not actually accomplishing anything.
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>>134797363
>pedophiles
What do you expect when there are so many sexualized children and child-like adults in anime?
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>>134790295
This just makes me want to cuddle the tiny onee-san even more.
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Watching Monogatari is like The Shawshank Redemption, only with more tunneling through shit, and no fucking redemption.
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>>134797850
Why does no one like gaen?
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>>134798134
Her terrible personality.
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>>134798151
I just don't see it. Yeah she acts like a know-it-all, but that's because she really does know it all. What's the problem. It's not like she's mean like kagenui.
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>>134797871
I'd tunnel through her shit, if you know what I mean.
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>>134798291
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>>134798250
Because acting like a know it all is insufferable, even if you do know it all.
Which she doesn't anyways.
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>>134798250
Why are you comparing her to Kagenui? She's quite a bit older than Kagenui/Meme/Kaiki
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>>134794086

He was going to do that anyway, and Hanekawa pretty much wanted a firm answer. She can take it, and wanted a clear distinction to move on from, as she said, she knew his feelings already. He kind of stepped over the line joking about letting her stay in his room and becoming her bed so soon after a rejection.

Loved that Tsukihi called her brother an idiot that should die when she saw the rejection scene in the commentary. Made the pain a little better.

I'm sure if Tsukihi saw this arc on top of that scene, she would take an awl to her onii-chan's balls. Dude is pretty much a two timer, but gets let's off pretty easy.
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>>134798250

The reason why she knows it all isn't clairvoyance, it's a detailed network, and the fact she eliminates things that don't follow 'the plan'. They go over this later on. They even compare Hanekawa and her and it's stated Cat is more the genuine article because she is humble about where her knowledge falls short.
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>>134798402
Because I feel like gaen is more likeable than kagenui, and they are both specialists who went to college together.
>>134798398
She didn't really seem insufferable during the current arch, she didn't really rub it in or anything. I think she only acted like that towards cat if I remember correctly.
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>>134798402
>She's quite a bit older than Kagenui/Meme/Kaiki
She's probably just a year or two older than them
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>>134798526
>She didn't really seem insufferable during the current arch, she didn't really rub it in or anything. I think she only acted like that towards cat if I remember correctly.

She doesn't insult people directly, but she acts in a patronizing way, it's not hard to see it. It's why Araragi gets annoyed when she says her catchphrase, but when Tsubasa does it he is all smiles.

It's like how you can have two people who give to charity, but one exudes an aura of doing it to gain popularity, and the other does it because they want to make people happy.
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>>134798632
>hag defense force shows up

Yeah okay buddy
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>>134798638
Yeah I can definitely agree with that. I still think she's a pretty cool character though. I think it's neat she has such a powerful network of specialists.
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>>134798767
She looks the youngest out of all of them.
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>>134798767
>implying kagenui is not a hag

Yeah okay buddy
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>>134797850
Me too, anon. Me too.

>>134798134
I like Gaen and her personality.
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>>134798318
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>>134791921
You'll hate her in Orokamonogatari.
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>>134799233
I can't hate someone with Marina Inoue's voice.
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>>134799233
more like you'll pity her even more
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>>134799233
She's funny and quite endearing in a hapless, self-deprecating way in it.
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>>134799233
Nobody likes her for her character. They just have a damaged goods fetish.
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>>134799607
It's hard to separate her character from what's damage from abuse, self-harm and math since it's basically her whole life since she was born. Zokuowari will probably help with her characterization outside of her past.
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Is it true that Shinobu has been influencing Araragi's train of thought since spring break?
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>>134799837
It's more likely that Araragi is influencing hers, because she's the oddity and the one who receives feedback from him.

That said she's also his reason for living so there's no way she doesn't influence him in the traditional sense.
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>>134745650
so, are we getting mayoi hell or what?
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>>134800366
No. It's Koyomi next.
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>>134800366
You are, just not this season or on an already known air date.
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Please don't tell me bat won't end up with dragqueen.
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>Rouka God never
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>>134800049
Araragi wasn't even a lolicon in Kizu to the point that it was never even mentioned in the entire novel. He sort of was in Bake and then he went full pedo in Nise and SS, so i'd say Shinobu does have an influence in him.
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>>134785242

>tfw shorter than kiss shot

WOMEN AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE TALLER THAN MEN DAMN IT
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>>134798134

I want to tear off Gaen's garish wigger clothes and give her a skirt suit after I fuck her for a few hours.
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>>134800887
>tfw same height or cm taller than kissu shot
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>>134800638
Well it's hard to say when nothing explicit is said. He could have been a lolicon all along and it just wasn't obvious- similar situation with his sister complex. It could also have been that his inner lolicon was awakened by interacting with Shinobu and Hachikuji.

I'm actually pretty sure he's more smitten with Shinobu's adult self than her loli form.
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>>134800945
Damn anon that's pretty aggressive, though I'd probably do the same.
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>>134800494
You know that's only 6 pages long? You're not missing much. It's just a relatively brief conversation between Kaiki and Numachi when they first met.
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When is it explained who/what the hell Ougi is?
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>>134801021

Yeah, well, she needs to dress appropriately. Especially if I'm going to impregnate her, nigger culture is damging to a child's development.
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>>134798134
>tfw you won't get inside snuggle under that baggy shirt
>tfw you won't do all sorts of things of lewd things to that body while she can only feel and not see what you're doing
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>>134801075
Ougi Dark
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>>134801418
>tfw she wants you to take responsibility
Why does Gaen make me diamonds? I can just listen to her all day as she feels all smug with her knowledge.
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>>134800960
It's canon that Shinobu also has some influence over his thoughts. It's mentioned in Kabuki.
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>>134799385
Nobody wants to pity a self righteous bitch. Unless you don't care for her character, of course.
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>>134799772
Zokuowari Sodachi is a completely different Sodachi. The only similar trait is she likes math and that's that.
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>>134802525
Of course she is, one is a girl in the depths of despair talking to the person she hates the most and the other is a happy imouto with her non blood related onii-chan.
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>>134801075
Ougi is Ougi
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>>134803968
That's pretty spooky
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>>134801075
Ougi is nothing to be afraid of
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>>134804201
thank you spooky ougi
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>>134804261
Of course not.
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>>134802463
Oikura has been a self righteous bitch since Ougi Formula, some people like OP hate her and some people like me like her. That probably won't change. I just want her to eventually drop her scrunchies and let her beautiful long silver hair out instead of cutting it short.
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>>134803968
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>>134804509
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>>134804572
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>>134745650
>should of
Kill yourself.
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So uh does Shinobu prefer Ararararagi or number 1?
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>>134805082
Find out in next week's episode of Owarimonogatari!
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>>134745650
Still waiting on those hate sex doujins
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>>134797113
Yeah, please stay on /co/, faggot.
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>>134773585
3DPD please leave.
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>>134773679
You want to bring the emoticons back as well, pretend-oldfriend?
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>>134745650
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>>134805321
And I'm waiting for healing sex doujin.
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>>134805321
You do not deserve any.
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>>134804377
B-but it really hurts seeing her fuck herself up even more when clearly she knows she doesn't have to. It hurts, anon.
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>>134805530

and I'M waiting for masturbation doujin
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>>134805626
There is a solution, a harder punch.
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>>134805744
Crab punched her so hard she broke a finger.
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>>134801469
Is that planned to be animated?
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>>134805626
She doesn't want to achieve happiness by sucking up to other people in the first place, even though she tried exactly that with Araragi.
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>>134805883
Every story until off-season is planned to be animated. Even off-season if they go with their word of adapting every book.
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>>134805883
Yes, they've said all 3 volumes of Owari will be animated.

http://www.monogatari-series.com/owarimonogatari/special/interview01.html
>上・中・下巻、全てアニメ化します。
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>>134805692
And I'm waiting for the dick sleeving doujin
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>>134806126
Someone post the sleeve dicking copypasta
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why can't owari look as good as kizu
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>>134806413
anime budget x movie 5 years in production and split in 3 parts
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>>134806509
When will Nadeko publish her first manga?
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>>134785242
>line at his head
>not at his ahoge
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>>134804377
>I just want her to eventually drop her scrunchies
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>>134806793
W-what are you talking about? Nadeko doesn't do things like that.
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>>134806256
I want Ougi to put her sleeves close to my erect dick.
Then, I want her sleeves to slowly descend over my erect manhood so that I can feel her soft, pale hand stroke my dick as I ejaculate all over the insides of her sleeves.
I don't want to see her hands though.
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>>134806888
Nisio can't wait to give her a character development, and twintails are the extreme opposite of mature. I'm compromising with an adult feminine look, instead of another one looking like a boy.
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>>134807131
thanks sleeve-kun
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Owari is decent, needs more Ougi, less sodagaen shit
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>>134774395
He did a snake one that's never been scanned
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>>134805530
By Homunculus
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Who is the blonde guy? I don't remember him at all.
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>>134808849
Episode.
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>>134808849
He is mainly from Kizu.
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>>134808849
>araragi still wearing a girly hoodie
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So quick question because i forgot, which seasons are Commie best for?
I only remember people saying they became bad at a certain point but i cant remember if it was Owari or Tsuki
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>>134809764
They were questionable for tsuki from what I hear.
They were fine everywhere else and preferred for SS.
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>>134809703
wat.
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>>134809805
Alright thanks. Made the mistake of watching with it all with Noobsubs when i watched it the first time so i'd rather make sure i get the good subs this time around
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>>134809923
I would not recommend them for owari.
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>>134749977
What is that fake shit math
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