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Osomatsu-san Ep. 9

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Looks like 14 is the loneliest number ;_;.
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>>134177197
14 is the best number.
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>>134177197
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>>134177259
Look at her wrist
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Honnestly the fact that she got a tattoo of Jyushimatsu's name where her suicide scars were gives me good hope. That means he's helped her heal and she won't try to kill herself anymore.
She just needs some time to sort things out.
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>>134177447
Jyushimatsu is the best medicine.
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>>134177447
it was tatoo? I thought she wrote it on her shirt or something.
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Will someone translate the ending?
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>>134177517
I thought it was a baseball armband
with the number 14
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>wearing your ex boyfriend's wristband to hide cutting scars from your parents
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She wrote 14 on her wrist to remind herself if she ever looks at her wrist to cut again she remembers juicematsu fuck brehs ;-;
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>>134177481
>She comes back
>Explains to him that he's helped her heal
>Juicy is made aware of his healing abilities
>Becomes a doctor
>Suicide girl goes back to school to earn honest living as a nurse
>They open a practice somewhere nice in the countryside where there's a lot of space to play baseball
>Happiness forever every day
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>>134177567
cutting scars? I thought she was gonna leap off a cliff?
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>>134177625
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>>134177308
is anyone even watching that show? I swear I've never seen a thread past ep 3.

I'm watching that show
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>>134177625
It's implied she probably tried to off herself by cutting before because of the wrap on her wrist
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>>134177616
>Karamatsu later dies of eyebrown cancer

Happy end.
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>you will never make a suicidal porn actress want to live again
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>>134177678
I am, too. I'm the one making the threads every thursday, and we usually hit 200-300 posts.
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Gintama director delivers as always.
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>>134177308
>filename
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This fucking show man
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>>134177796
Oh that explains it. I usually don't have time to browse much on Thurs. Pretty much race home, eat dinner, club meeting then NFL. I always look for them Friday on my lunch break.

I'll make a point to look for your OP Thursday. Thank you for your courage.
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What's her name again?
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I still find it funny they still keep their nicknames from previous episodes like Totty and Shittymatsu.
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So she was forced to do porn and didn't end loving it like in my Chinese porn cartoons?
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>>134177888
AV-chan
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who /eternalplayingthemesonginmyhead/ here?
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>>134177649
>>134177684
holy hell I missed that little detail

Feelsmatsu indeed
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>>134177896
I don't think she was forced anon.
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Hot damn what an episode. I honestly never wanna fucking watch that scene where Juicy cries ever fucking again dude, I can't fucking stand that for some reason, I don't ever cry during movies or tv and shit but that was just fucking hard to watch. POST HAPPY ARTWORK
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Here's an tearjerker for you, fuckfaces.
>Osomatsu is killed
>After that the Matsuno asshole brothers will suffer from an emotional breakdown to the point they have already reached PTSD by then
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>>134177888
Credits only lists her as 彼女
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Where was the joke at the end to lighten up the mood.
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>>134177888
Reminder that even though she fucked men for money she's less slutty and shit than Totoko.
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>>134177896
She probably had dreams of doing honest actress work but got roped into porn with promises of breaking into the industry/told it was the only way to get real gigs later
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Jyushimatsu deserves love.
Jyusimatsu deserves to hold and kiss the love of his life.
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>>134177892
Yeah, it's a nice detail that gives continuity to their story. Usually comedy series tend to be way too episodic so I like what they're going for here.
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>>134177979
It was a sad happy episode for me.
Jyushi smiling in the end made everything better.
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>>134177731
>Oso finding her in one of the porns in a porn store
>never bringing it up to Juicy
>the fact that she wanted to kill herself over some unmentioned circumstances with it
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I am so fucking sad and have lost the will to smile ever again.
That'll teach me to leave /co/ and watch some chinese cartoons for once.
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>>134177999
The punch-line is your lonely life.
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>>134178092
anon
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Reminder that AV chan will find proper man and have a happy family while 14matsu will forever be stuck as lonely autists made fun by his brothers.
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>>134178004
>hating Bestoko
You're cute, anon.
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>Jyushi and Kara remain the best brothers.
>Osomatsu is getting better
>Choro still hasn't done anything after the sleep episode
>Totty
>Ichi's still good.
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>>134177896
Every time I try fapping to JAVs I see sadness and sorrow in the girl's eyes for some reason and stop shortly after. I probably imagine things most of the time but I just can't unsee it.
That's why I stick to 2D 99% of the time aside the fact 2D > 3D.
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>>134177957
She was about to kill herself.
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>>134178211
Try looking for some vanilla stuff then.
Silk laboo is great.
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>>134178203
>Choro still hasn't done anything after the sleep episode
Virgin Hero next week
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>>134178172
>implying

She will be the reason he will study to become a doctor.
The when he graduates he will visit her, propose and they will marry and make cute hyper children.
And no one will try to kill herself again.
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>>134177917
fuck you

like, seriously

chuu-chu-chu choro-choro-chororina intensifies
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The way Jyushi looks clearly in pain but still tries to look happy while saying goodbye really gets me.
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>no sound except for the falling rain
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>>134178200
Totoko is just an old overused meme character, soon she will be more useless than DAYOON.

Nyaan-chan and Porno-chan have already beaten her and stolen her spotlight.
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>Jyushi never give you the will to live again and try to remake your life.
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I tried.
But it was done online since I don't know how to properly do one.
>>>/wsg/847312
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>>134178294
It was a sweet episode.

I hope i never see him crying again.
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>>134178211
You are not imagining anything anon.
Most of them go to the big city with big dreams just to get lured and deceived by producers and yakuzas.
And let alone the fact that they can't even ask for help, the japanese society being as it is.
Stick with 2d, there are less victims.
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>>134178227
As aforementioned in the thread she was most likely roped into it and made the decision herself. Forced to do porn would be akin to rape in a sense and I doubt that was the case. She most likely decided herself and regretted it enough to try to kill herself and tried many times at that.
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>>134177872
Oh that's why you never see the thread. You're welcome, but I'm actually starting to enjoy this anime, things are (slowly) getting interesting.. Anyway don't rush yourself, take your time.
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>>134178172
That's what 14 would have wanted for her,to be happy and move on
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>>134177991
How do you pronounce this?
What's the romanji?
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>>134178366
Almost Satan is right. I don't think i would have rejected her for being in a porno.
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>>134178294
100% angel
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>>134178381
That's why he is a best boy, and why this shit is so sad.
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>>134178412
Kanojo,miss/girl
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>>134178307
>Nyaan-chan is just another factory made idol
>JAV-chan literally fucks old men for money
>meanwhile, Bestoko is just honest and super cute
I don't think you understand that she'll be winning best Matsu, anon.
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The fact that Jyushimatsu acted normal and calm when he was dating her is making my heart hurt very badly.
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JyushixIchi fags in suicide watch
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>>134178259
>He becomes a doctor
>Goes visit her so he can propose
>She has AIDS
>She dies
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Is it the only way for us to find a relationship /a/? Find a girl on the brink of a suicide and be more hopeless than her?
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>>134178412
>romanji
>n

Kanojo (girlfriend)
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>>134178294
He probably wouldn't even care at all about her past would he ?
Now I kinda wish Oso would have told him, even tho he did the decent thing by not outing her.
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>>134178479
>Kanojo (girlfriend)
My fucking heart man.
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>>134178453
>Totoko
>Honest
>Cute

>Implying Chibita won't marry her since the Matsus have found better girls.
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>>134178467
How do you figure? We literally got a scene of Ichi tying himself up so Juushi could abuse him.
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>>134178537
Chibita is way too good for her.
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>>134178467
Good. Jyushimatsu wasn't created to be paired with his brothers. He was created to be loved and to be happy.
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>>134177197
Do you guys think that if Totty wern't an ass they would have treated him like they did Juushi today?
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Personal AOTY here, nothing else was this great in 2015.
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>That scene where Juushi cries
>The heart in his mouth is breaking
;_;
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>>134178603
Someone is barely watching anime.
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>>134178478
I hope you're joking
Never go out of your way to pursue suicidals
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Welp, Juicy is off the market, time to focus all my love on best Matsu.
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>>134178597
I think they wanted to sabotage Jyushi but they didn't because "love". I mean why else would Karamatsu wear those pants.
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>>134178532
I know nothing about Japanese but Kanojo also means girl, right?
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>>134178467
>implying
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>>134178661
>I mean why else would Karamatsu wear those pants.
He wore them in Ep 2 for no reason. He just likes them.
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>>134178670
Yes.
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>>134178373
It's never a black and white decision.
The recruiter will usually promise serious jobs and start with small things like asking for a shorter skirt, or the show a little belly.
Then it will just get closer and closer to actual porn, and when she complains they will tell her it's just a thing all rookies do and she will miss her big chance if she stop now.
At the end she finds herself only doing adult videos, can't contact the family for help because of shame, pride, and the repressive society, might get public shunned if someone finds out, can't get in respectful agencies after doing all the dirty work.
And if try to complain people will just say she is a whore that choose all of that.
That's why educational campaigns aimed at the youth are important.
Being naive and dumb can destroy someones life.
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>>134178603
>Osomatsu-san as AOTY
>Not Gundam The Origin
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>>134178644
Kara and Ichi are the gayest characters on the show.
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>>134178474
Fuck you anon.
;_;
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>>134178597
I think they were planning on sabotage at first, but decided against it when they realized Juushi was genuinely in love.
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>>134178706
>Gundam the orgy
>G U N D A M
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>>134178625
Not even him but
>implying that Osomatsu-san isn't a strong contender for AOTY
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I liked how the brothers actually helped the guy out instead of just shitting on him and trying to ruin his date.
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>>134178706
>Origin
You mean thatbait and switch crap? Also they cut away from the slapping.
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>>134178727
Episode where Kara is confronted with his homosexuality when?
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>>134177197

This whole episode man.
I love laugh-crying and this shit gives it to me.
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ATTENTION DRAWFAGS

Draw me a picture of Osomatsu shooting water from his nipples.
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>>134178828
Only shitmatsu wanted to NTR his little brother.
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>>134178846
>gay episode

Can't come sooner. Imagine all the shit he will get.
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>>134178828
They only shat on Todo that episode because he acted like a dick.
Jyuuchi is always nice to everyone, there would be no reason to do that to him.
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>>134178807
Not only AOTY is a stupid thing new people like to spam all around the board, Osomatsu is simple not it.
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>>134178807
They are all so happy for him.
That's fucking adorable.
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>>134178828
>That scene of him crying in the oden
>Matsu tells him to go after her on her last trip out
>Osomatsu steps it to tell the other guys they can't leave because he has "no money"
>Careful ploy to let Jyuushimatsu have some alone time with kanojou
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Pon.
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>tfw when you don't have the power to make people laugh and be happy
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>>134178837
Yeah, after Lucifer dies she slaps a couple of boys that were making fun of her and insulting Char.
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>>134178846
Holy shit I want this.
And then
>Haha it's a Kara is gay episode
>Ends up packing up as much sadness and broken hearts as this episodes
Actually I've changed my mind I'm not ready.
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>>134178934
Even if Oso is plain and default character he sure can be a cool older brother some times.

Am I the only one that gets Little Busters flash backs when he acts like that?
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>>134178934
kakkoi, Osomatsu-niisan
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>>134178307
>Dayoon
>useless

hope you like open areas
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>OnoD is Jotaro VA
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>>134178930
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>>134178963
It sucks.
Usually when I try to help people they tend to get the wrong idea.
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;_;

why is this allowed in a comedy show, my feels

and at the end of the ep she wore Juushimatsu's wristband to hide her scars from when she cut herself

11/10
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I... I wasn't prepared for this. I still say this beats Episode 5 by much.
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>>134177197
Porn of that girl when?
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>>134178984
Do they show the slaps connect? Or do they play that "no on-screen domestic violence" censorship crap again?
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What is the relevance between Juushimatsu and the number 14? I feel like it should be obvious.
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>>134179064
OH FUCK
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>>134179132
14 is pronounced Jyuushi
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>>134179114
I feel guilty just reading that post
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>>134179087
>you will never meet a Jyuuchimatsu that loves you unconditionally despite your past and just wants your happiness.
;_;
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>Hating on Todomatsu
But why? IS it jealousy?
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>>134179197
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Ah, it looks like it's beginning to rain.
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>>134179105
I really thought it was going to be a joke segment with Juicy falling in love with a baseball bat or some shit like that.
I forgot how this anime can be bold.
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>>134179197
>tfw no one will ever love you as much as jyuushi loves that girl
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>>134179132
Jyuushi is one way to say 14 in Japanese
10 (jyu) + 4 (shi)
also the kanji of his name translates to it
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>>134178922
It's not stupid. You could only call it that because it tends to attract a lot of shitposting on this board. But as a concept there is nothing controversial about it, unless you're one of those guys who thinks that all shows are made equal and the only thing that matters is subjective personal taste.

As per Osomatsu-san being AOTY or not, it's the Annie Hall dilemma, honestly. Comedies seldom are "best shows" or "best movies", etc., but Osomatsu-san has a subtle dark streak to it that makes it noticeable enough.
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>>134179064
Can't believe I didn't notice this, I wonder if they'll throw anything more like that into future episodes
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>Bald Karamatsu
Heresy
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>>134179260
>Juicy grows up a little episode.
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>>134179278
Damn anon ;_;
I wonder if I can at least become someone that could love some one else as much as he loved her.
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>>134179313
Cute knees.
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>Seeing the happy one get broken
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>>134179114
>yfw later that night Jyushimatsu walks in on Osomatsu fapping to AV-chan's video
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>>134179161
>>134179298
Oh..fuck.
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>>134179362
>tfw couldn't love someone back.
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>>134179369
cuter knees
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>>134179127
In the anime they totally skip the scene while in the mango she slaps one of them the same way she slapped Kai.
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>>134179408
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I wonder if I would somehow change my life if I find a girl one day.
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>>134179253
You... you shut up, you idjit
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You bet your sweet ass I cried.
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>Todomatsu truly wants to be independent
>Knows how to please his mother
>Is the youngest
>Is popular

It speaks for itself.
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>>134177678
It's shit anyway, we only laugh at the show and discuss how annoying Moe is and how Magata Hakase is a hot 13 yo fucking her uncle
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>>134179362
Don't worry anon, i'm sure you can. Also, jyuushi believes in you so don't give up.
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>>134179260
I thought that too, its maybe because we related the episode would be as sweet as the character is. But it surely deals with dark tones well. Even the happiest character can cry like that... its a nice thing for all the ones who wanted to see more of his facets but its still very sad.
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>>134179465
De-fucking-batable.
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>>134178078
I read that as it was a sad panda episode

It kinda was
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>tfw you realise that he loved that girl more than he loved baseball
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>>134179519
Here's some more options for you then.
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are we gonna see the girl again?
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>>134179481
Finding a girl doesn't necessarily mean you'll fall in love with her.
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>>134179579
fuck off totty
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I hope you fucks that wanted to see Jyuushi cry are happy now
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>>134179298
>4(shi) sound like death in japanese
>Jyuu sounds like freedom in japanese
>Jyuushi get's the suicie themed episode

Can you guys see it?
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>>134179578
shit man i would rape totty
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>>134179588
Learned this the hard way. You think "all I have to do is find someone accepting of me who shares my interests" but then you don't necessarily fall in love with her.
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>>134179467
How can you call something like that AOTY then?

Gundam has been getting progressively lamer and lamer. We will never have 70's/80's grit back because of it.

>>134179408
Jyuushi will probably go nuts.
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>>134179408
>>134179666
OCTOPUS HOLD!
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>>134179514
Thank you anon.
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>>134179578
Why Totty makes my dick so hard?
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>>134179633
P O T T E R Y
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>>134179114
Wait for shindol.
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>>134179579
Yes.
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>>134179633
Jyuu means he got jewed by his fortune. Shi means he was internally and externally sheeeeehing
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>>134179652
And then you treat her like shit and feel bad afterwards for being a shitty human being. I know that feel anon.We don't deserve love.
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>>134179690
He is such a good guy.
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>Episodic gag show
>Continuity
>Genuine emotion
>Stupid random character actually has emotional depth.

11/10 AOTYAY
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The best part of this episode is how they trolled the audience into forgetting that there was a Karamatsu episode.

KARAFAGS ON LIFE SUPPORT!
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>>134179313
He looks like a youth baseball player.
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>>134179666
I'm not the originfag, anon.
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MAZERU MAZERU

HAZERU HAZERU
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>>134178211
Fucking this, japanese 3D porn is a huge no no for me for this exact reason.
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>>134179777
Well mine was kind of a psycho who was emotionally abusive to me and then tried to make me feel like it was my fault we broke up, it took me long time to distance myself and realize she was just insane and manipulative.
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>>134179777
Everyone deserves love anon.
You just have to let it in. It's hard because you feel like you are not worth but you can be.
Remember anon Jyuuchi belives that you can become your best self.
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>episodes that make you care about the characters
>even side characters get their own episode
>the biggest comedic relief character has the most touching episode in the whole show

Is this AOTY or AOTY?
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>>134179690
>>134179842
It's so silly but so sad at the same time. I'm really impressed at this show.
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Translation of the ending any day;_;
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>>134177888
Remember that her anus must be as used as her vagina
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>>134179690
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I'm glad Kara didn't back down when they began fighting at Chibita's.
He's growing. Soon he'll destroy Ichimatsu.
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>>134179778
Gotta protect that smile
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>>134179073
he's worried about him
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>>134179891
Who would love a NEET?

I have looked at dating sites and everyone either has a degree or is working towards one, they have so much stuff going on, socially they are a rank above me. Who wants a useless hanger-on getting in the way of their successful life?
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>>134179690
>Juicy will never heal you
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>>134179804

Holy shit. You're right.
Had you not said anything i probably would never remembered the first half!
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>>134179619
Have you even realized they actually felt worse when they saw him crying?
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>>134177616
Until some fat slob neet neighbor finds out that she was a porn start and decides to black mail her with the tapes while Jyushi is too busy working night shifts in the hospital.

She slowly loses her mind to drugs given by the neighbor, goes back to porn and Jyushi kills himself jumping from that cliff where they first met.
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>>134179872
At least you gave a chance to something even if was fucked up.
I always end up running away before anything starts because I'm afraid of how things will turn out, but ironically it just hurts the people I cared a bout in the process. The result is a continuity of dreams where I meet those people again and mend things up, just to wake up and realize I still keep on running away.
Sorry for the blog.
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>>134179579
No, she must be dead by now.
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>>134179872
Mine was too much in love with me and i made her feel bad several times.You did good in distancing yourself from her, that puss doesn't sound like it was worth it.

>>134179891
I don't deserve love but i will make other people happy so i can atone for my sins.
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>>134179937
B-But my doujins
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>>134180019
I don't think any of the brothers would've been able to handle that last scene had they had been there.
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>>134180052
Fuck off chuuni.
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>>134180000
You should look for people on the real world.
There are neet girls that think the exact same thing. That no one would love them. Try to be more open and judge people less, it might surprise you.
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>>134179937
>Soon he'll destroy Ichimatsu.
>All according to keikaku.jpg
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You may disagree with me but threads about emotional anime where /a/nons can drop the pretense of being above relationships and jaded by love and openly discuss loneliness are the best.

Fuck the newfags who took the 3DPD meme and made it into an official rule.
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>>134179919
Here you go, anon.

僕!あれ?十四松 !
Me! Huh? Juushimatsu!

なんで分かったの?
How did you know?

僕て五男なんだって?
I'm the "fifth son"?

五男てなに?
What's a "fifth son"?

食べれるの?
Can you eat it?

この服母さん六6着買ったんだぜ!
Our mom bought the same six sets of clothes!

良いでしょ!
That's so great, right!

ああ!なんか楽しくなてきた!
Aah! This is getting kinda fun!

君たちと会えてラッキだよ!
I'm so lucky to have met you all!

それにしてもすごいよな
Anyway, this is pretty amazing.

六つ子と六つ子。。。
Two sextuplets...

え、 十二人?
Huh, that's twelve people?

ババ抜き?いい, やろうよ!
You wanna play Old Maid? Yeah, let's do it!

僕トランプ持ってきてんだ
I brought playing cards.

じゃっ、カード配りまーすっ!
Then let's deal the cards!

年齢順で!
We'll do it by order of age.

誰が兄で弟だって?
Who's older, and who's younger?

まあいいよ、 適当で
Well, it doesn't really matter.

あれ? どこ行くの?
Huh? Where are you going?

トイレ?
The toilet?

(Iyami solo part 1)

一生懸命がんばりまっす!
I'll give it my very best!

(Iyami solo part 2)

おそまつ!
Osomatsu!
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I watch this to laugh, not to feel
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>>134179467
Isn't The Origin an OVA? I thought they were generally safe from that kind of censorship.
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>>134180115
The eternal paradox.... How do a couple of NEETs... who never go outside and recoil from any advances... meet each other?
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What a good episode.
The porno part was totally un-needed, though. Unless the girl is not actually the one from this episode and they are going to use that later.
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>>134180052
By focusing on the others happiness you will by default make your self more deserving anon.
Just make sure not to do it with second intentions.
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>>134179919
http://great-blaster.tumblr.com/post/134281376621/six-same-faces-tonight-will-be-awesome
Here ya go, Anon. Someday we'll laugh again.
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>>134180132
FEMALE SEXTUPLETS WHEEEEEEN
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>>134180171
4chan
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>>134180173
What did he mean by that?
who is he thanking?
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>>134180115
Well, yeah, but nobody expects anything from a girl. A man is expected to provide. Male NEETS are the lowest of the low.
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>>134180173
I'm not sure if we were supposed to take away that the girl did porn and Osomatsu didn't say anything, or it was just a bait and switch gag.
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>>134180173
It was needed so Osomatsu could give him support in a way he would be the only one to know her secret. It was a nice way to put their personalities in the story.
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>>134180132
Thanks TLfag
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>>134180171
I want to break this paradox.
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I made a shit thing but you get the idea
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>>134180116
I can't wait.
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>>134180082
Believe it or not, if you see someone crying(usually a Woobie), then chances are that you will either try to not lose your composure or just break down and cry with the Woobie as well, or maybe just comfort him? But I agree to be real honest.

>>134180132
What about the rest of the endings? I had one translated by some friend, which the very first ending of the very first episode of the show we are talking about.
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>>134180132
>誰が兄で弟だって?

are we sure they're females? or is he talking about he and his brothers?
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>>134179579
If we do, it'll be a surprise in the last episode. This is 2cour btw.
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>>134180228
He is thanking her, for being a game-winning kind of girl in his baseball autistic mind.
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>>134180173
They gave her some backstory and also explain why she tried to kill herself.
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>>134180213
>meet a couple of 4chan people
>they bring brownies
>everyone eats the brownies
>one day later the anon that made the brownies posts pictures of him jizzing in the brownies
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>>134180309
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lE87dbtzm-qysPTomNUiXf1Vx-mhAYhuRJATijoA4LY/mobilebasic
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>>134180123
I agree.
The best works of fiction are the ones that make you reflect on and question your life.
Nothing wrong with being sincere from times to time.
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>>134177197
How the hell can a comedy anime skit break my heart into dust two times?
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>>134180207
I'm now 90% convinced that this won't happen. Too much shipping going on.
>Nyan-chan -> Ichimatsu
>JAV-chan -> Jyushimatsu
>Totoko -> Osomatsu
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I could draw porn of this girl....But I'd feel so awful.
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>>134180341
If I eat it, does that mean I'm no longer a virgin?
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>>134180173
The porno part states a clearer reason why she was so depressed, and why she decided to go back home instead of staying with the man who made her so happy.

And how Osomatsu decided to keep it to himself and carry that weight, knowing it should be AV-chan to tell Jyushi if she wants, was kind of heartwarming.
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>>134180314
He's talking about his brothers here, and how he wants to deal the cards in order of age. The other sextuplets are definitely female, this was confirmed in the Todomatsu A and Karamatsu B EDs.
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>>134180143
Maybe they simple didn't have enought time since the whole "Casval kills Char" was also supposed to happen in this episode.
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>>134180173
It was needed.
I dove into a very serious problem present on Japanese society since long ago. Poor girls.
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>>134180415
M-maybe?
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>>134180414
Draw Nya-chan.
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>>134180132
>I'm so lucky to have met you all!
Why is this making me so sad?
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>>134180413
>Totoko and Osomatsu
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>The brothers giving no fuck about Karamatsu
>Not even trying to save him
Fck them
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>>134180414
Embrace it.
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>>134180245
That actually depends a lot from person to person.
If you assume that everyone in the world is this closed minded how will you find someone different? Will you even be able to give it a chance?
Are you sure you are not making more barriers for yourself out of fear anon?
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>>134180502
D-did Mickey just beat me the fuck out?
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Go little bro
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>>134180555
Ichimatsu was so weird in this episode
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>>134180555
I bet even gay shipping fujo's were cheering for him.
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>>134180504
Chibita deserves better.
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>>134180011

too right.
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Jyushimatsu healed that girl and that's really fantastic, but who the hell is gonna heal me after this episode.
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>>134180504
P-please stop it with your realistic shippings. My headcanon can't take it much longer!
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>>134180597
I was
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>>134179690
the parts where you see him running as hard as he can to keep up with the train... man... hits me hard every time
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>>134180586
Juicy is his favorite after all.
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>>134180555
>>134180586
Why was Jyushi swinging Ichi in the first place anyway?
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>>134180619
I am. There's no need to be sad anon.
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>>134180597
Its the truth. Twitter is flooded with Jyushi and the girl, there are lots of fanarts by the usual BL artists.
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>>134180586
He's the more jealous when his brothers are getting girls, he tried to shit on a table in Totty's episode.
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>>134180674
>>134180649
True love always wins.
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>>134180173
It gave as much backstory that you needed for her, in that she was from somewhere out of the city and did porn. She probably came in with dreams, got deceived, was cut loose from the AV industry when she couldn't bring in DVD sales, and with nothing left, she decided to kill herself.
Also, it gave Osomatsu a chance to show that he's more than some petty asshole, but that he really wished the best for Jyushi. Just think about how dick it would have been for Osomatsu to parade that information about, and would you have been surprised if he did?
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>>134180619
Try lucid dreaming. Maybe Juicy could heal you too.
>>
CRAWLING
>>
Will Karamatsu ever receive a proper episode?
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>>134180732
Totty and Choro would have confronted Jyushi.
Kara and Oso would have done the same thing.
Ichi would have talked to the girl personally
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>>134180784
He received one. He got kidnapped, beaten up and beaten up some more.
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Can we agree that all brothers are best?
Even Totty seemed nice this episode.
>inb4 agree on anything
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>>134180784
Who?
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>>134180784
We're getting two cours, so probably. I look forward to the healing.
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>>134180813
They are, but some are better than others, by a lot.
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>>134180714
So in the end Jyuuchi got two of the Kara goals:
>improving himself
and
>making others happy

When will he achieve world peace?
>>
>mfw a comedy anime made awareness of a real serious problem in japan
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>>134180813
No, I don't agree.
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>>134180714
Not actually thanks to Kara.
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>>134180619
>a cute hyperactive boy will never heal you
Why am I still here? Just to suffer?
>>134180613
noice
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>>134180813
I love shitting on Totty as much as the next guy, but I really do like all of them.
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>>134180784
You mean Kusomatsu.
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>>134180845
He made this thread peacefull, soon the world.
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>>134180784
When Choro gets one so NEVER EVER
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>>134180762
Ironically, the kind of thing you would listen to when you're 14.
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>>134180904
see >>134178240
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>>134180845
The girl will soon start to help other people like Jyuuchi helped her. Then the people the girl helped will help other people. And soon, the world peace.
>>
I hope there's a real fight episode.
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Damn why is OnoD always best boy?
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>>134180741
tfw no 14 tulpa
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>>134180856
I'm glad that they didn't push the "You want to kill yourself and that's selfish!/You're just not trying to be happy" that some anime do.
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>>134180247
Oso didn't say anything cause he didn't need to, her being in a porn won't stop Juicy from loving her. And if anyone needs to tell him, it's her.
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>>134180784
It will come out of the left field. The episode will have a random secondary character in it's name and no one will expect anything out of it.
Then by some plot device Karamatsu will end up getting on the focal spot after one of those shit on Kara jokes.
We will get a full deconstruction of his character, his insecurities, his fabricated cool guy persona.
It will be a sad but soul crushing episode and the whole segment will last 20 minutes plus a special after the ed scene
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>>134180930
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This show has no right to be this good.
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>>134181061
Hell, we don't even know if he knew it already.
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>>134180946
Something like this?
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>>134181118
Fight in the family.
Kara laying the smackdown on Ichi.
>>
Why is Shittymatsus fashion sense so weird?
>>
>Ep4
>Despite being best bro, Jyushimatsu gives no fuck about Karamatsu

Poor Karamatsu
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>>134181118
How can a character with such a simple and outdated design be so attractive?
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>>134177888
Tanaka Aiko.
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>>134181172
>spoiler
Can't wait
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>>134181118
Got a link to the artist pixiv/twitter?
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>>134181198
Karamatsu is the most caring nii-san.

And Jyushi gave a fuck when he fell of the roof.
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>>134181188
I bet he reads old fashion magazines and tries to mimic what he sees.
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>>134181198
Ichi would probably care if he could get past his cynical outlook and view anything Kara says as a lie.
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>>134181205
You man timeless. The 60's had the simple, appealing and iconic thing down.
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>>134179298

JUUSHI IS OUR TENSHI (TEN 10 + SHI 4)
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>>134181205
It's what you call "timeless" anon.
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>>134181205
It's the eyebrows man.
>>
Why is Iyami best boy zansu?
>>
Wow this episode was dark and emotional, I almost cried at this one but at the same time it was still great comedy. I love this fucking anime
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>>134181267
Holly fuck anon!
They thought about everything.
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>>134180702
No he tried to shit on a table because Totty is a dick.

He was the brother willing to leave after that insulting speech Totty made. Then he found out Totty was just trying to pick up chicks so he went ballistic.
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>>134181205
Go to bed, Shittymatsu
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>>134181224
pixiv.net/member.php?id=4075119

Next time use saucenao ok?
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>>134181264
>>134181234
>NO one tried to come save him
>No one even tried to inquire about his whereabout during the second part of the episode. (about the ESP kitty)
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>>134181309
Because he is a true french manzansu.
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>>134179132
>>134179298
>>134181267
A more easier explanation
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>>134178366
Is it really that bad or are you just assuming that is how it is?

I always assumed that the really shady types out there operated more in Japan's not-quite-prostitution businesses.
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>>134179804
Karamatsu is the best when it comes to being forgotten
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>>134180321
Juicy gave me an autism fetish.
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>>134181047
I'm going to bully Karamatsu!
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>>134181437
>all that Oden he shoved in his mouth has touched Chibita's ball sack
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>>134181514
That's friendship. Real friendship.
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>>134181514
I heard its good for fertility! Besides since they are eating there later he likely doesn't care.
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>>134181576
>tfw you can tell who's who based on their leg posture
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>>134181432
It's worse actually.
They are very tied with the yakuza, so expect human trafficking and other shit.
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>>134181576
todo - jyushi - ichi - oso - kara - choro
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>>134181363
He's the very bottom of the barrel. Even his brothers are above him. Makes me want to hug him and tell him it's okay.
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>>134181576
Ichi's ass is the best.
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>>134180702
Why the fuck would he try to hurt his chances to get a girl for when he doesn't hate Jyushi? They get along pretty well from what I've seen.
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>>134181576
>Totty sits somewhat girly
>Kara still tries to sit "cooly"
I didnt expect Choro to spread like that though
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>>134181717
10/10
Would spank it.
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>>134181172
If Kusomatsu actually got pissed off enough to tell everyone off it'd be great
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>>134181464
I think he is pretty normal but probably puts up a energetic front.
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>>134181576
>That ass on Ichi
>>
Why the fuck was this episode so deep?
>>
>>134181877
Oden am i right?
>>
>14's tongue has a crack in the middle when he cries, forming a broken heart
WEW
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>>134181877
Because love is deep. anon
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>>134181849
I think he just gets high from all the exercising.
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I was expecting Kara to fuck up working at the stand and piss off Chibi. Found it funny he couldn't say no to the guy.


Also already finding porn of AV-chan
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=53828779
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>>134181849
I think he just lets off all his energy during the day by doing jokes. When he found a girl he was able to use that energy to entertain her instead, leaving him spent for most of the day and calmer.
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>>134181913
I liked it
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>>134181877
I know, right? This has really inspired me into putting my whole being into oden making.
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>>134178474
Nobody dies of AIDS anymore.
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>>134181918
It wasn't deep, just touching.
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>>134181973
>link
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>>134179161
It's actually pronounced jyuuyon, but 4 can be pronounced shi and 10 is jyuu.
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>>134181973
What monster would even have the guts to draw porn of her after this episode?
I hope you don't fap to it.
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>>134181576
>>134181717
>>134181876
He got a booty to match his tummy.
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>>134182049
if Oso could do it so can I.
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Matsu love is the purest love
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>>134179299
Osomatsu-san is also very good comedy, none of the usual garbage. Overall, it's a solid contender for AOTY.
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>>134181973
>porn of AV-chan
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>>134182101
>barefooted
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>>134181973
Anon, can you post that picture in a spoiler box? I really need to see it. Purely for scientific reasons, of course.
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>>134181973
>porn of AV-chan
Unless is porn of her with Jyushimatsu, I'm not watching it.
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>somewhere in Japan there was a girl passing through the exact same thing as AV-chan
>maybe she was about to do the deed today even
>but then she decided to watch television one last time just as Osomatsu-san started
>she might be on a train going back home now
>at least one person was saved

Jyuuchi is life.
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>>134182053
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>>134181877
Deep as in balls deep into the oden, right?
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Would you protect that laugh, anon?

Jyuushimatsu did
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>>134182200
>He doesn't have an account on pixiv
>He wants to fap to AV-chan
You're a shit.
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>>134182223
I almost forgot she was sorta retarded.
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>>134179579
>Series Finale
>shows where all the brothers are now
>Jyuushi living with AV and their new kid, looks happier than he has been the whole series
>Kara still living with parents being worst matsu as always
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>>134182210
Dr. Juicy will heal the world one person at a time.
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>>134182223
I don't get what happened when she laughed too hard. Did she just pass out or piss herself?
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>>134181681
I would have assumed that the AV portion of the Japanese sex industry would be less prone to human trafficking since there's the slight chance that somebody might recognize the girls in the video.
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>>134182310
Maybe she has a mild case of asthma
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>>134181973
>it's shit
Thank god
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Does he reject his humanity?
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>>134182255
She is just a simpleton.
Just like Jyuucy
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>>134182214
soft Ichi a best
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>>134182258
Depending on if they want to ignore the original ending for them from Osomatsu Grows Up, Kara is supposed to marry a green grocer woman.
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>>134177888
>>134178004
What if Totoko would learn that one of the matsus has a gif?

Would she kill her to make herself the center of attraction again?
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>>134182348
They are perfect for eachother
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>>134182247
>You're a shit.
What can I say? I'm just that sort of monster.
I'm not going to fap to it, though. I just really what to see how people depict her awkward and short-lived porn career.

Can anyone sauce an anon?
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>>134182331
There are a lot of people without family and friends anon. People that no one will notice if they disappear one day.
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>>134182310
Laughed so hard she passed out I think.

>>134182392
All you have to do is make an account on pixiv and enable 18+ content.
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>>134182356
I feel like they might touch up on this. But maybe change at least Oso future where he gets with someone then being alone. Or they could tease it but they end up making some sort of alternate timeline. Either way I would be fine with it.
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>>134182443
Osomatsu grows up really, really doesn't matter for this canon.
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>>134182422
There's just too few people with the courage to speak up about it when they see it.
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So, is oden good?
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>>134182392
It's a pretty shitty picture anyway.
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>>134182601
This show is really tempting me to try and cook some oden.
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>>134182601
I don't trust those white triangle things, they look too squishy, I hate squishy food.
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>Japan has a significant amount of internal trafficking of women and girls who are trafficked for sexual exploitation. Recruiters actively recruit in subways, popular hangout spots for youth, at schools, and other venues, making promises of success to young women and children if they model or work at certain clubs. Children are also often recruited at a young age to be abused through child pornography.

That's just depressing.
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I can't wait till they focus on Choromatsu. Giving us a reason why he is neet like his brothers yet tries to do his best. He is the only character we hardly know anything about. Hopefully when they do it will expand his character more.
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>>134182698
YOU WON'T GET IT RIGHT BY JUST "MAKING" IT, IDJIT! YOU GOTTA PUT EVERYTHING INTO IT, GET YOUR BALLS REALLY DEEP IN IT!
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>>134182443
>average Matsu score of 61,(6)
Clever.

>>134182611
I see, it was just someone posting EDGE as soon as possible.
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Fucking hell, this part
Where's my comedy? ;_;
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>>134182601
I really want to try some
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>>134182715
It all looks pretty squishy. These brown things here too.
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>>134182809
How did they make this ED?
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>>134182771
JUST DO IT! BELIEVE IN YOUR ODEN! MAKE YOUR ODENS COME TRUE!
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>>134182843
Stop motion maybe?
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>>134182843
Background is an arrangement of food pics, sauce is CG and overlaid on the background.
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>>134182843
the mustard-looking thing drawings were done in a different layer.
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I know posting this would not help us feel better. Sadly I still feel compelled to do it regardless.
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>>134182809
Looks like fried tofu, which is GOAT with the right flavoring.
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>>134182906
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>>134182843
My guess is they did the mustard animation over a glass surface, overlayered it digitally over the oden pictures and then made the camera motion.
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Protagonist: Shittymatsu
Best Bro: 14
Deuteroganist: Osomatsu
Antagonist: DAYOON
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>>134182906
And I thought you realized your wrongdoings and just deleted it.
How dare you bullypost even after this episode, anon?
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Just finished the episode myself. Wasn't expecting anything that depressing in the show.
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>>134183066
He would be alright the next episode, right?
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>>134183066
ah sorry I got the pages mixed up.
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>>134182953
>As long as I smile, everything's fine!
>And when everyone looks at me, they smile too
>And nobody worries about me!
This is so much more upsetting after this weeks episode.
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How the fuck does this have the most active threads of any show this season
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>>134183243
What about one punch shitposters?
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>>134183243
YuruYuri, Valkyrie Drive and OPM have 24/7 generals.
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>>134183243
It's a good show, and it attracts fujos. Also I'm fairly certain OPM has much more active threads.
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>>134182906
>>134182953
>>134183086


>>134183243
Because it does. Would it really matter?
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>>134183330
To be fair, Yuru Yuri has had 24/7 generals long before this season.
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>>134183243
It's not but the show is good, anon. Just give it a try.
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>>134183202
Damn.
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>>134183202
It would be worst if he didn't cry this episode actually.
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>>134182255
As expected of a JAV actress
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>>134183367
Yet its nothing but posting shipping art yet never gets shit for it. But people only complain once its gay art being posted. I don't even get why people even watch that show anymore its boring as shit since the new studio took over.
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This week's Dayon. A little Iyami in the background.
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Let's hope she knows his address. M-maybe she can write him a letter from time to time, tell him she's improving her life everyday.
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I'm just going to leave this here.
>>>/gif/7746429
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I'm the worst ever....
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Can I ask for some happy Jyuushi?
I had felt like shit even before I watched this episode
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>>134183441
New studio revived itself
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Wait who the fuck threw random udon at the brothers. I don't think it was Chibita since he looked pissed at what happened.
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>>134183627
How about a huge bowl of happy Juicy?
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>it gets better with every episode
Speaking of, is this a 12 or 26 episode series?
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>>134183612
YYYyeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssss!
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>>134183682
>134183682
It was him, he just wasn't expecting a dirty shoe to fly into his oden.
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>>134183682
D E E P E S T
E
E
P
E
S
T

L O R E
O
R
E
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So I guess Hatabou actually is an adult, otherwise he wouldn't have been browsing the back room at the rental store...
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>>134183691
2 cour, not sure if 24 25 or 26 though
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>>134183691
52
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>>134183586
Welp, time to fap and then feel terrible afterwards.
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>>134183683
I'd be happy to have it
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>>134183682
The viewer (us) is throwing it
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>>134183627
Hope you get to feeling better, anon
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>>134183441
I watched the first two seasons so I might as well watch the third. While it got even gayer and a bit less funny, it does have it's moments. Also I'm pretty sure everyone has the threads filtered.
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So what are next weeks episodes?
I'm gonna need some healing after this. Even going back to watch the other episodes doesn't help because you know the pain is coming.
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>>134183682
He's pissed because Totty's shoe somehow managed to find its way into is oden because of the whole exchange.
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>yfw Osomatsu paid for av-chan's trip home

I have no face.
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>>134180668
Ichi is the fattest and thus best MUSCLE-building practice
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>>134183627
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>>134180668
Because it makes Ichi happy in his pants.
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>>134183627
I believe we all need him being happy right now.
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>>134183243
Cause Matsu Mondays are the best days. And new shows air on Mondays. That's when the threads are most active.
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Man this shit went from comedy to Norwegian Wood real fucking quick.
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>>134184061
I want to hug him.
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I can't believe a fucking anime of all things made me believe in true love again.

Bravo Jyuushimatsu
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>>134183691
>there will be no more matsumondays one day
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>>134184240
Buddy, please, I'm fucking sad enough as it is. Can you not?
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>>134184240
;_;
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>>134184240
Go away, damn it
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>>134184240
Please be fuyukai somewhere else.
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They couldn't have exchanged phone numbers or something?
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>>134183627
happy bros!
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>>134180784
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This episode was so intense, I'm not sure I'll be able to sleep.
I just though it would be simple funny thing like Juushi himself. Can't believe edgyfags were right all this time.
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I know I'm probably late as fuck but now I'm imagining AV-chan trying to talk about her past to Jyuushi and he just screams "WERE YOU IN A PORNO" before she can say anything else.
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>>134183928
I believe he paid Jyushimatsu's ticket to enter the train station.
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>Jyuushimatsu tag now full of sad
;_;
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>>134183736
This was a very deep lore episode tho'
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>>134184446
Deepest lore, man. Deepest lore.
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>>134183932
looks so soft...
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>>134184512
AV-chan is like the ideal qt small-town girl
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Since this show is pretty good at continuity, I wonder if we are getting a slightly toned down Juicy from now on.
Just have him be a bit less hyper, so we can remember the pain every time.
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Since last week episode's preview I was expecting something sad, but not a this level. Episode of the year for me.
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>>134184474
When exactly between telling Juushi to go and him running off?
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>>134184615
>you will never have Jyuushi try his best to make you laugh
>you will never have a qt AV-chan who will laugh at your silly gags
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>>134184620
>so we can remember the pain every time.
Pls no
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>>134184670
I can't believe I'm getting strong feelings about the stupid fucking water gag. All I can think is "Aww that the thing he did when they first met, that's so romantic". What the fuck has this show done to me.
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>>134184620
Considering that Ichimatsu didn't change shit since his cat episode, I don't think Jyushi will change either.
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>>134184620
Don't know if continuity or genuine foreshadowing. It's surprisingly tight for a comedy series.
Deepest lore.

>>134184628
Comedy shows doing drama always hit the hardest.
That Black Adder finale...
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>>134184620
The only continuity from this episode that I want is AV-chan coming back.
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>>134184766
>That Black Adder finale...
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>>134184738
I know, I was just thinking it was a new gag like Oso thought, but it was actually from when she saved him. Cue the flood of tears
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>>134177713
There is no such thing as hair cancer, anon.
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>mfw I expected him to find out that Jyuushimatu's girl is a porn slut.

This episode was great and just confirmed how glorious this bastard is.

You did good Jyushi you did good.
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>>134184639
Oh yeah, I forgot about that completely. Disregard my post, I'm not that sharp today.
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>>134184887
I want to comfort Jyuushi.
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Good night /a/. This thread was great just like the episode.
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>>134183691
A shame we don't get new long lasting series that are 50+ episodes anymore.
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>>134184940
>replying to ledouche
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>>134184954
Maybe something that burns brightly for 20-something episodes is a better than a show that peters out to a former shell of itself in 50+
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>>134184954
>What is gintama
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>>134184946
Sleep tight, Matsu.
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>>134184954
No studio will make that risk. Imagine if the anime is a flop, they're gonna waste resources in something that doesn't sell.
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>>134185085
Gintama went to shit
Also
>new
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>>134184946
Sleep well matsufriend
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>>134185120
This picture is my desktop wallpaper right now
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>>134185120
Do you think AV-chan and Jyushimatsu will dream of each other until they can meet again ?
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>>134184946
Let's go to sleep together, anon
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>>134184946
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>>134185131
This show was proven successful at least. A shame though, since the old series had 60+.
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>>134185120
okay I have to say it, their sleeping arrangement is inherently lewd. I can't blame the fujos that hard.
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>>134185252
Nobody is stopping them for making a season 2 in the future.
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>>134185085
Gintama is an adaptation and even though Osomatsu-san is a sequel, it's pretty much an original work. They either plan accordingly a set number of episodes or they improvise on the fly and risk fucking it up big time. The announcement of this being a two cour show was eyebrow raising enough, now imagine if this were to be a 50 episode series.

>>134185218
Not after the double sextuplet date I imagine. That's a divorce episode right there if there ever was one.
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I want a change in behavior from Juushi around Totoko.
It is fine if he still cheets for her but I want some type of change.
Like treating her regularly or something.
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>>134183086
Damn, this broken heart-tonge is just too much...
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>>134184954
Watch more little girl cartoons. The series themselves are usually 48-51 each season, and you can binge watch all the different seasons of the series.
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>>134183086
Why isn't his mouth full of blood if his tongue is ripped apart.
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Goddamn Juicy still bestmatsu
Great episode. The best thing about it is that this ep just offed all those headcanon fanarts with Juicy as a closet psycho. There's now way in hell he's a nutjob after this ep. By now it's pretty safe to assume that he's the harmless hyperactive bro who's just so fucking pure, and not as retarded as people might think.

tl;dr, need more healing Juicy pls
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I THOUGHT THIS SHIT SHOW WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A COMEDY, A GAG SHOW?

Thoroughly confused and sad.
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>>134185812
Anime at Your Own Risk
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>>134185757
He only wants people to smile shit fuck damnit
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>>134185812
It's actually a show at your own responsibility anon, learn to read.
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Be healed, O wounded hearts!
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>>134185812
Reminder that any and all reactions to this anime are entirely your fault
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Everything will be okay anons.


Believe in the Pon.
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New bread?
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>>134179801
It's like Gintama all over again.
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Reminds me of the family guy segments that were supposed to be sad but this one actually does it right.
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>>134185757
>Juushi wasn't stopping AV-chan from suiciding, was minding his own business until wave happened
>not psycho
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New bread, people:
>>134186458
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>>134178661
>implying those pants are bad

Anon, pls.
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>>134186498
Tasteless
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>>134179313
That is his future anyway.
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>>134182906
>>134182953
Daily Edge is on point?!
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>>134186479
A one-track mind with excessive energy to burn off. With the exception of the other matsus, did he directly pester anyone else in the show?
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>>134181464
My new phone home screen.
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Okay, I'm convinced. I've been an Ichi up until now, but this episode finally made me a Juicy
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>>134181576
Juushi's got like no ass.
Need to get them squats going.
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>>134181973
>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=53828779

It is too fucking soon.
Good think it is shit.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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