>watch first season over break, pretty light hearted and ok

I love the animation in Railgun, but I think the Touman punch to Accel was better in Index.

Saten best girl imo

>>134135909
that's what you get for watching the spinoff first.

This shit already happened in original season of Index, many years ago. Railgun's version was just visually more pleasing to look at.

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>>134136085

>>134136173

Then there's that whole Accel flashback to him not having friends or some shit. Still a great episode, but tried a little too hard to make the moment land considering it didn't need it.

>>134136093

>magic side arcs compared to science side

Railgun's wasn't simply more pleasing to look at. It's not even a contest. Even Index 3 will prove to be far superior to 1 and 2 simply because the science side is way more entertaining.

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Read the manga once you're done. It's pretty good.

>>134136634

Why's the girl at the bottom holding a condom?

>>134136664
It's Saten.
It's her lunch.

>>134135909
I'd forgetting how nice the first have of this looked especially the backgrounds.

>>134136664
Yeah, what's with that? You'd figure Saten would demand it raw.

>>134136741

Saten is pure

Does anyone have epubs for the original series (1-22 + SS?) I don't want shitty pdfs

Raildexstuff is kill and my hard drive was kill recently.

>>134136634

>manga is back in ITEM shenanigans again

I always appreciate saiai appearing and even the hamazura cameo, but frenda again? Talk about beating a bisected horse

>>134136825

Ask in a raildex thread. Someone has the link somewhere.

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>>134136425
>Index III will prove something

The only thing Index III will prove is how unbelivable shitty J.C Shit is. Two bombs werent enough.

>>134136937

What's wrong with JC Staff? Railgun was pretty gorgeous.

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>>134136802
>tfw no level 0 love

>>134135909
Imagina how that entire arc would be if Nagai was allowed to do whatever he wanted. I'm sure Accelerator would be defeated by Saten throwing Uiharu's panties in his face and then beating the shit out of him with her bat.

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>>134136664
looks like a kitten to me

>>134137308

Wasn't the silent party arc all his doing and anime-only?

It was bad enough with the lazy writing for the antagonists and plot in general, but saten piloting a fucking mech and mikoto going to the edge of space to shoot a railgun was over the top.

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>>134137071
The "strongest" level 0
The "weakest" level 5.

The best pairing.

>>134137800
I'm disappointed Kamisato doesn't get more GUTS into his life.
It's not Touma who needs to correct Kamisato, it's Gunha.

>>134137800

hopefully gunha gets good like ollerus, he could probably shit on all the other level 5's alone if he stops fucking around with the guts stuff

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infiltrator misaka was one of my favorite parts of this arc

>>134138016

I want to kiss her

>>134136085
The fight was more unsettling in Railgun but I think I still prefer the Index version just because it was less over the top about it. Touma defying death is scary.

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>>134138150
There was no blood in the index version.

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>>134138016
Misaka is at her best when she's not playing the tsundere love interest and just getting shit done.

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>>134137800
OTP

>>134138632
>Misaka is supposed to be the most normal of the level5
>Still batshit insane when she needs to be

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>>134138632
>Misaka is best when she's spilling spaghetti all over the floor.
Fixed

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>>134138944

Name one level 5 that doesn't have a screw loose.

>>134138944
Considering how much the other 5s have grown she may be among the craziest now
Even Kakine and Mugino are nice now

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>>134139073

>Mugino is nice now

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>>134139020
Pic related seems like a normal highschool boy to me.

I dropped the anime for this. The manga doesn't have all that SoL bullshit right? Or at the very least it tones it down a notch.

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>>134139149
She is when her friends are there to control her

Watched Railgun first myself as well, except I did not even know that Index existed, and looking back, I almost wish I never did.

Watching Index completely ruined Touma's character for me. When I first saw him in railgun he was super mysterious and powerful, and I remember nicknaming him the "Mysterious Mr. Awesome" in my head lol. When you see him from this perspective, you almost get why Misaka would take a liking to him: "the strong guy who shows up to save the girl". If that and a few encounters is all you had to go on Misaka could easily end up with an idealized view of him, like I did calling him Mr. Awesome.

Then of course came the disappointment watching index, seeing him as just the usual loser harem guy, seeing him constantly being thrown into excessive fanservice, and giving silly speeches, until there was not an inch of respect for him left in me.

Additionally index seemed to throw in way too many characters, while Rail seemed more focused. The magic arcs I wanted to skip, but railgun and great op's carried me through.

>>134138949
If your opinion is honestly "Misaka is best being clinically retarded around a bland MC that gives no fucks about her" your opinion and taste is shit. Your shitty ship is also the reason most haters exist. Fuck off.

>>134139235
There are some SoL chapters between arcs, but they are bearable and give some nice development to some characters.

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>>134139235
Kamachi's SOL is way better than Nagai's

>>134139444

Index is shittier than Railgun, but it's following the LNs directly.

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>>134139469
>clinically retarded
>bland MC
>gives no fucks about her
And you say my taste is shit.

>>134139444
I might have likes Touma more if I'd gotten into Railgun first. Might. But it's not as if he's a completely different character in Railgun. I'm grateful he saved the Sisters and Accelerator too (let's be real, Accelerator wasn't the real bad guy here and he wasn't treated any better than the Sisters) but he's not exactly "mysterious mr awesome" in either story.

>>134139596
If you like Kamikoto enough to think her retarded scenes with Touma are better than her getting shit done and being a Level 5, your taste is shit and you stick to harem series like Nisekoi where all you get is girls being retarded over MC. Fuck off.

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>>134138949
This. Misaka is a cute when she's with Touman.

>>134139832
No she s a fucking a moron when she's with Touma. It's stupid as fuck.

>>134139832
That's the worst moments of both of those characters.

>>134139444
>Mysterious Mr. Awesome
And here I thought "End of the Century Emperor" was a stupid nickname

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>>134139882
She's not a moron though, she's very shy and embarrassed but she never does anything overly stupid.

>>134139788
Who said anything about shipping though? Or Harems? Maybe you should stop being so butthurt that people like stuff you don't like.

>>134139921
I know, the two are terrible together. Why do so many people think it's cute? Is it because they have no idea what that kind of behavior would realistically translate to?

>There are people who still think JC Staff are whack

Can't see S3 happen though with all the retarded shit in British royale and WW3 arc, wouldn't know how they would animate that shit.

>>134140020
It's obvious if you're calling it cute there's a 99% change you ship it because you think it's cute? The ship and scenes are retarded and completely ruins her character . Which could be so much better if the writer wasn't pandering to shits like you who think Mikoto being retarded is cute

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>>134135909
>there are still people who are surprised by this in 2015

>>134136828
Has the manga gone back to being good again, or is it still stuck doing dumb stupid shit? Every time I think something interesting will happen thanks to a cameo that character fucks off after a couple of pages.

>>134137664
Yeah it was, he said in an interview that he didn't want to do the Sisters arc (google it, I'm too tired to look it up)

>>134138016
>all that cut content
Unforgivable

>>134139832
They act like a couple who want a divorce. How the fuck is it ever cute?

How far up does the manga go with the LNs? I've read up to Vol 5 of New Testament and just kind of lost interest but think I might pick it back up with the manga.

>>134139444
I liked Touma when he was a simple guy punching bitches for living incorrectly, then all this suffering came and i lost interest.

>>134140234
manga didn't even go further than the anime

>>134140234
Manga ain't past the anime yet, you should either just read the Railgun, accel manga or something else entirely.

>>134140322
>>134140279
Ah well that's a shame. I'll probably just read it to try to spark interest again.

>>134139937

You talking shit about my man hamazura? He deserves any name he wants after his based guerilla warfare in ww3 and literally becoming kamen rider in nt.

>>134140199
>if you're calling it cute
But I'm not and I never did, I said she was at her best. Maybe you should learn to read before you start criticising professional writers.

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>>134140234

>he hasn't read new testament 9 yet

This bothers me.

Accelerator as a focus in another NT volume when?

Dude hasn't done anything since NT6. Hamazura was great in NT12 but Accelerator needs time again

that or kurisumasu volume but seeing as NT1-14 took place over the course of a month and they are in early december I doubt we won't get it for another 10 volumes

>mfw the scene after frenda and mikoto's fight

She was so close to selling out ITEM after being bested by an esper inexperienced in combat.

Anyone who seriously says frenda didn't deserve what she got in volume 15 for her betrayal is delusional.

>>134140406
Thinking it's her at her best definitely means you find it enjoyable and positive, even if "cute" isn't the word you want to use. Even if you honestly don't ship it, your taste is unbearably shit if you think Misaka being retarded around Touma is her best, cute, positive, or enjoyable in any way. I'm not the one who doesn't understand how language works here.

>>134140463
Soon, I hope. I hope the Kihara shit in NT14 was set up for him to come do something.

>>134140463
Too busy being happy, I am glad he is not getting involved in the ball of misery and suffering that is Touma's life

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>Bitch tried to kill you and stop you from saving your sisters
>Oh damn looks like she's about to fall off and die, guess I'll help her and ignore the events of the last 20 mins

Dumb bitch like all the other females in the series.

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>we will never get another chapter as great as NT7 C2 again

at least tsuchimikado was a hero in NT13 by kiting everyone away from the destruction during the rapist chase thing

I hope he's okay after the events of NT14

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>>134140547
>I'm not the one who doesn't understand how language works here.
You put words in my mouth and then make assumptions based on that. I understand that perfectly well, bro.

But stay mad that people like what you don't like, I'm sure an attitude like that will help you out in life. Meanwhile have some cute kamikoto stuff.

>>134140728

She's not a killer. Sure you can just go ahead and cry moralfag, but even with her powers she's still a middle school girl.

>>134140853
I dont care that you like it. But it's disgusting you think that shit is better than Misaka being awesome. Now tell me again how you're totally not a shipfag and I'm just "imagining" it

>>134138016
It was near the she kept losing hearts when she took damage against Mugino.

>>134140855
Middle school girls don't go around destroying bases at night.

And trying to help her is retarded because Mugino would still try to kill right after.

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>>134140804

>tfw seria will never get her time to shine

She's an interesting character with potential to back touma up from the dark. It's a shame we got that dumb volume for misaki that went nowhere

>>134140987
I value cute over action.

>>134140853
>cute kamikoto stuff
>post a page with Touma giving zero fucks about Misaka

Accelerator chapter fucking when?

Railgun fucking when?

Does this shit even come out monthly anymore?

>>134140987
>I dont care that you like it.
>Keeps bitching
Ok dude. Also
>Not getting irony
>Caring more about boring action scenes than character interactions.
Don't worry, you'll understand once you're past puberty.

>>134141118

I'm pretty sure both have had new chapters come out but no translations yet. Correct me if I'm wrong.

>>134141078
Then fuck off and watch cute series. Yes, things in this series can be and are cute but the action/story will always be superior

So is it safe to say that Touma is over his PTSD of Magic Gods now? I'm sure that his scars still remain from the infinite hells Othinus put him through. But it seems his attitude towards Magic Gods did a 180 this volume now that he learned that High Priest sacrificed himself for Othinus and saw that Nephthys sacrificed herself for Patricia.

>we will never see battle royale with railgun s' visuals
>hamazura will never be freed from the shame of his hideous LN art

just

>>134141208
Who says I can't appreciate the cute in this series?

>>134141139
I find this funny considering I'd bet my life on being actually older than you.

>>134141255
I literally just said you can but plot will always be superior

>>134141296
That would be really sad.

WHERE'S MY FUCKING RAILGUN MANGA TRANSLATIONS?
I NEED MY FRENDA-SLUTEN FIX AND CH 80'S BEEN OUT FOR A MONTH

Seriously though, what's taking them so long to release Ch 80? Ch 81 just came out two days ago

>>134141387
Her loliness is busy translating eronovels for us.

>>134141233
I don't think so
As Kuroko once said its called a trauma for a reason

>>134141139
Character interactions have to be good for them to be better than action. Kamikoto interactions are not

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>All of these people only caring about Misaka doing cute stuff and cute scenes with Touma

Sasuga Railgun-only fags. It's all about the bros anyway.

>>134141438
But Sluten almost gets sold into sexual slavery in ch 81
I need my fix

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>>134141550
>Sandwich
>It's obviously a hot dog

>>134141550
>Sandwich
Wow, didn't think I could get triggered this badly.

Kamikoto is shit. I hope the ship gets sunk very, very soon so that we can get something featuring Mikoto that's not shitty Kamikoto pandering or Railgun

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>>134141550

>gunha on the roof

every time

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Is anyone else fucking ready to see ITEM get blown the fuck out already?

They're so smug in all of their railgun scenes. I just want to see based kakine wreck their shit and teach them a lesson.

>>134142087
Pretty sure Item wasn't the one that got rekt the most during Battle Royale. Why are Kakinefags so delusional

>>134142247

I'm not a kakinefag, I just want him to kick their ass.

Hamazura beating Mugino would also be hype.

>>134136937
JC Staff is great, Raildex is just shit.

>>134142502
Hamazura is always hype

>>134142551
JC can't do LN adaptations to save their life, they should stick to original comedy anime.

>>134143238
Slayers, Toradora, Taishou Baseball Girls, and Henneko were all good.

>>134139469
Thank you for that sentence in double quotes that succinctly summarizes all of Railgun and Index

>>134142551

It's a shame because raildex actually got good where they left off.

Thankfully they animated the skill-out side stories so the transition to index 3 is somewhat smooth.

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This was a great episode with a 12/10 ED transition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpNH-hKZhpA
>tfw "yakusoku suru yo"
Touma sure is dreamy.

>>134140219
>cut content
What did they cut? The Sisters arc in Railgun S is pretty painstakingly faithful.

>>134147112

They really did a good job with the OST in general.

I'd like to see the end of century emperor getting chased by mugino to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcCPJT3r0Sk

>>134140234
>hasn't read NT 8,9 and 10
Go to baka right now

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>>134140234
>Missing out on the ride that is NT9

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Is the railgun manga really this irrelevant? Where are the translations for the new chapters?

>>134141717
what's triggering about some PB&J?

>>134148764
Is all that text just one big speech by Touma? That looks honestly painful to read, it was bad enough to sit through it in the anime.

>>134151055
It's clearly a hot dog

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>>134151416
Does it bother you anon?

>>134151479
I don't listen to communists

>>134151416

you only say that because you don't know the context

that volume is one of the highlights of the series, if not the best one

>>134151416
It's not a speech, it's a complete mental breakdown.

>>134142087
Kakine is a shitty villain who kept sparing people.

>>134152143
I'm not saying it's terrible because it's not in any sense of the word but I don't care for the ending or what came after. Not buying Othinus's "punishment and redemption". So I'm not considering NT9 a highlight because of shitty conclusion. Of course if Othinus gets punished, truly redeemed, or turns out to have been tricking Touma, I'll change my opinion. But she'll likely stay the way she is now

>>134135909
Go read the manga you dingus.

>>134153780

Not everyone has to be an accelerator or worst. Dude just wanted to be shown some love from Aleister.

He did turn into a turbo dick in NT but at least he redeemed himself by understanding the power of protecting loli smiles.

>>134135909
That eighth-grader has seen some shit.

>>134157204

She's dead so she won't be seeing any more.

Can someone tell me why half of the level 5's are fucking criminals or members of the "dark side" of the city?

All of them are crazy in some way too. The only one I can't say that about for sure is aihana etsu, but he or she is probably no different.

>>134157675
>Can someone tell me why half of the level 5's are fucking criminals or members of the "dark side" of the city?
>All of them are crazy in some way too
You answered your own question, to be a lvl 5 you gotta be somewhat insane. I mean to use these powers you literally have to believe that you can shoot lightning.

i like this series but apparently it doesn't go anywhere later on damn it

Its pretty neat that odd lvl5 are inherently good and even lvl5 are inherently evil. Except Gunha

>>134157767

Read the manga for railgun and the light novel for index. Railgun has another arc on par with the sisters' but it hasn't been animated yet, and index gets pretty good where its anime stops.

>>134157961

Gunha is #7 so it fits, although the current Kakine Teitoku is a good guy. Mugino is still pretty violent I guess. I'm curious to see if the #6 turns out to be good or bad when they reveal themselves.

>>134157961
#6 isn't really a bad guy though, he's just letting people use his name to get out of bad situations.

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>>134138016

gr8 taste m8

>>134158092
>>134158276
Wanted to say Aihana not gunha, but derped.

Will there be a level 6?
Why can't they use magic to create level 6 espers?

>>134158824
Were you not paying attention? Espers and magic cause a nasty backlash in the human body. Only Accelerator and Tsuchimikado can use magic while being espers and even then it's rough. Accelerator has to put all of his focus into not self-destructing and Tsuchimikado only survives due to auto-regen.

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>>134158824
Just throw Alfar into a Level 5 party and hope one of them evolves to a state where they can become Level 6, done.

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>>134158904
That is not what I was trying to upload at all

>>134158824

If that was possible Aleister would have done it a long time ago. I guess the closest they have is Accelerator with the black wings and that angel shit he turned into at the end of WW3.

If anyone is going to shift levels, it's takitsubo. That whole AIM diffusion shit where she could possibly create and remove powers needs to be resolved.

>>134158896
That's concerning using esper and mages using their own powers.
Doesn't mean that magical people can't do stuff to affect other espers, maybe even increasing their powers.

Hell, the scientific way in the story of making a level 6 is them having a level 5 killing a level 3 thousands of times. I want to see what a magical guy would come up with.

>>134158989
That scientific method was laid out to be bullshit though, there is no known way. Though Gensei seemed to be on to something.

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>>134158412

Would've been hype if she showed up like that in battle royale.

As soon as she changes clothes she becomes a miracle of the universe.

>>134158989
Any magic that could do something like that would likely trigger the backlash. The backlash like has something to do with flowing mana, since even a simple and unintended spell activating briefly will cause it That said, we still don't know enough about Accelerator's wings.

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I can't stand watching the clones die.

On the other hand, the Accel vs Touma battle was way more stylish and cool. Considering it's Misaka's perspective Touma naturally appeared more badass and Accelerator seemed more frightening.

>>134159010
Why, though?
I don't remember the exact reason, but if it was because Touma beating up Accelerator then that's gotta be a bullshit reason.
Touma has Imagine Breaker.

And talking about Imagine Breaker, that should be magical, right?If a magical thing can totally nullify magic and esp alike why shouldn't it also be able to create esp or amplify them as well?

>>134159061
No that's not what he's saying, he's talking about mages casting spells on espers to buff them, espers backlash comes from them casting the spells themselves, that's why magicians were trying to trick Accel into casting magic with foot movements in Hawaii.

Casting spells on espers has already been proven to work fine without any backlash when Stiyl stabilized Himegami.

>>134159095

Imagine Breaker is neither magical nor scientific.

>>134159095
There is no real "why". The entire experiment was a sham from the start, Aleister just wanted an excuse to spread clones all over the world so AIM could be linked through the Misaka Network, why the hell he's doing that is up for debate but it's likely linked to the imaginary numbers district.
>>134159136
If it was made by Magic Gods to undo phase changes wouldn't that make it magic.

>>134159119
Good point, I forgot about that part with healing. That said, level 6 is still on the level of a theoretical god so keep that in mind.

>>134159144

It appeared because of them, but the fundamentals that Birdway explained in that shitty infodump NT2 don't apply to imagine breaker at all.

If it was, then Touma's body would be damaged like when Tsuchimikado tries to use magic.

>>134159095
The point of the level 6 shift for Accelerator was to fail so that Aleister could spread the sisters for whatever plan he has. Judging by what it did to Vento it seems to involved spreading AIM but I can't say for certain.
>>134159144
IB is on a higher conceptual level than mere magic.

>>134159178
I'd say Level 6 is probably more like Angels myself, since if I remember they only said that Level 6 would be able to observe God or whatever it was, not that they would replace him. I don't know if mages buffing espers would actually work, but considering that Aleister is the guy working on them I'd say there's a chance.
>>134159201
>If it was, then Touma's body would be damaged like when Tsuchimikado tries to use magic.
I have no idea what you're trying to tell me.

I don't get it, why is some guy's secret plan with spreading clones also involve killing them all.
did they seriously plan for some guy to actually interfere and stop the killing?

>>134159245

I'm saying that if imagine breaker was magical, it would damage Touma's body when used because espers and magic are incompatible. Even if touma doesn't have an esper ability, he still went through Academy City's special procedures.

No level 0 can use magic. Hamazura would be all over that shit if it was.

How would you guys create a level 6 esper?
Assuming it's possible.

>>134159272
>I don't get it, why is some guy's secret plan with spreading clones also involve killing them all.
To involve touma/accel/mikoto and get them to meat each other. Also so they could just be like " oh this experiment failed we're just gonna send these failures all over the world because they're failures."

>>134136825
I'm pretty sure I got it off nyaa a couple of months ago.

>>134159272
Yes. A lot of shit in the series was part of the plan, Touma's involvement included. Tsuchimikado specifically told Aleister that throwing Touma into those situations like that would likely come back to bite him.

>>134159306
Imagine Breaker wouldn't necessarily backlash if it were magical, I'm relatively sure the backlash comes from the whole aspect of a spell reordering the mana/lifeforce within your body and not just because magic is present. There is nothing saying that just holding something that is magic causes backlash on espers, Accel was able to hold diagrams or whatever the shit was in WW3 to save LO to no ill effect, Imagine Breaker isn't a spell so it wouldn't cause any backlash to Touma.

Do they have precogs or oracles/diviners in Index universe?

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>>134159321

Get whoever makes gekota merchandise to create an ultra special once-in-a-lifetime gekota toy that is made from diamond or some rare material

Create 20,000 shirai kuroko clones equipped with her trademark perversion and force mikoto to get through them all to reach the gekota prize. Surely she'd be some unrecognizable god-like level 6 being at the end of that gauntlet.

>>134155626
The original dick is still out there as a pile of matter.

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>>134159481
Since Sargasso got the shit bombed out of it his container or whatever likely broke and he could have gotten away, the only question is when the hell he's going to show up.

>>134155626
No he didnt. Beetle and orignal Kakine are two different persons

>>134159335

Hey, they're not failures. They may be level 2's but they're still military clones.

Seria got them to pull off commando rescue missions around the world and some of them faced tank units and other shit. It's all in the SS2, it was a nice read.

>>134159634
>Hey, they're not failures.
No, no they're not. But that's what academy city wants the world to think.

Wait, so is Misaka insane like the other rever 5s too? Outside of comic relief violence scenes.

So they weren't actually trying to get level 5 clones in the first place?

Does that mean it's possible to get level 5 clones of level 5 espers?

>>134159570
He is a tentacle monster on the bottom of Tokyo bay now.
>>134159438
Psychometry and clairvoyance were mentioned. It's most likely the magic side has something as well.

>>134159704
Misaka and Misaki are the most sane of the bunch, but they still have a couple screws loose.

>>134159704
They say it in the Misaki arc of Railgun she's screwed in the head. Not as bad as the other lvl 5 but someone who can believe she has the power to shoot lightning is pretty screwed up.

>>134159704

Not really. She did snap and try to get herself killed by accelerator but that's about as far as she gets. Her level 6 shift doesn't really count either.

#5 Misaki isn't really crazy at any point though, don't know why she's lumped in with the likes of accel, kakine, and mugino.

>>134159787
She made a girl stuff herself full of croissants. What a psycho bitch.

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>tfw no one remembers or cares about this qt

Hope Misaka 19090 puts those emotions she received to use.

>>134159787
Most people probably can't tell but she has complete paranoia towards anybody she can't control who isn't Touma or Dolly. Seria is probably the only person she'll trust to some extent and even that is limited to one very specific topic.

>>134159895
Looks like trap from steins gate

>>134159959
You mean the trap who became a reverse trap and then went back to being a trap again?

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>>134159959

I can see it.

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>touma, accel, and mikoto all get their time to shine
>the GOAT thug who went from zero to hero without any powers will probably never get his due

>>134159829
people who act like they're someone else's personal coach can go choke on some fucking pastires

>>134155626
Which is better, Kakine Original, Beetle 05, or a hypothetical Kakine Original that recieved an LCP* from Touma?

*LCP = Life Correcting Punch

>>134136634
What chapter should I start at?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQqNprZPTLY
Man, this is cringeworthy I still like it, but only now I realised how I want Index III. I thought you guys were just whinning faggots, now I'm the one as well.

>>134159061
All we know about Accel's wings is that they're similar to both Dark Matter and Telesma.

>>134160502

You should start from the beginning. Sisters arc starts at ch. 18 and the daihaseisai at around 42 or 43.

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>>134160544

Watch this, it's really well made and it'll hype you up even more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYRikGtaQos

>>134159787
She went suicidal out of despair due to all her efforts of trying to stop the Experiment for three days straight amounted to jack shit.

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YFW Guts is god with amnesia.

>>134160664
I'm surprised she doesn't bear a violent grudge against Accel for killing the fuck out of her sisters.

She went full level 5 psychomode when she saw the corpse of 9982.

>>134161182
That psycho-mode lasted all of two seconds before she lost the will to fight after her attempted Railgun headshot got lolVector'd

>>134161390
Good times

>>134161182
It's possible the issue may never be dealt with again, but I think it was implied she understands the situation was more complicated and less straightforward than what she witnessed. That doesn't mean she'll buddy up with him or even stop holding it against him, but I think she understands enough to know a violent grudge wouldn't put her in the right.

>>134161701
Honestly I think she hates AC for it more than Accelerator. Sure he was the poster boy as she said and nothing will change that but you can't pin all of it on him.

>>134161701

I think the grudge thing was taken care of pretty well using Misaka Worst. Mikoto and Accel definitely had some friction during NT3 but it doesn't look like they'll be at each other's throats in the future.

>>134161810
I think Worst is bullshit. The Will kind of confirmed it. I don't see the Will harboring hate or grudges. She even said she doesn't accept Worst.

>>134160921

If JC Staff just wants to bring in that waifu cash they should animate Railgun 3 already.

They'll get plenty of money from the mikoto/misaki fanbase and the rest of us will get to see #7's debut animated along with the god tier team up. Everyone leaves happy.

>>134161810
>>134161885
Basically, one of them is bullshit and I'm more inclined to believe it's Worst. I don't see the Will being some fake trick done by Aleister but I suppose it's possible. Worst seems more like the mindfuck trick

>>134161959
So if Worst is the trick, then what is she supposed to represent if she isn't the negative emotions of the Misaka Network?

>>134161959

Fuck, I hadn't considered Will-tan being used by Aleister. Now that I think of it there is no way he'd simply let Othinus have her way and destroy the world without some keikaku.

She's definitely not fake though.

>>134162027
Probably just a mindfuck to Accelerator. Maybe even Mikoto too if she ever interacts with Worst again.

>>134162027

The negative emotions that go through to her can't be limited to anger. The grudge and forgiveness shit was just to torture accel.

>>134162056
Fake as in "she's just an elaborate lie to manipulate people into doing things" but yes, I don't see it either but the possibility is there

>>134162142
Honestly the more I think about it, the more she does seem like some type of manipulative trickery.

>>134162056
Wait, does Aleister have control over the network? I thought the most they could is hack into the system via a virus like Gensei and whatever Aiwass did to make LO sick.

>>134162271
He personally can likely do whatever the fuck he wants to with it, even if the scientists can't

will this series ever get an s3?

>>134162463
Maybe. I'd say "probably not" and "eventually" are equally likely

Which sub group do you guys think did a good job with Railgun? About to download and watch it over the next week but I'm not sure who were good sub groups for it.

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>>134136173

Raildex was really much better when Accel and Saints were the pinnacle of powerlevels.

Kamachi fucked up so hard with all this NT shit. Series completely lost it's charm.

>>134162498
i'm curious how much content there is available to adapt right now, like how many episodes or seasons could be made with all the stuff that's not been animated yet

seems like there'd be a lot of it, and if so begs the question as to why they haven't yet, considering i remember this show selling pretty well

>>134162643
This.

The omnipotent crap is retarded as fuck.

If anything save it for the ending at least when T-man gets his upgrade and shitty "I have to save muh loved ones" speech on the brink of death

>>134162463

Yes, definitely.

Railgun is very popular and while Index novels sell worse with every new NT volume Railgun manga keeps selling better.

>>134162702

I remember how people were reacting to UK civil war arc. Flying witch castle and other stuff back then seemed so OP and crazy.

>>134136093
Sisters in Railgun > Sisters in Index. I didn't care for it much reading the volume/watching it in Index, while Railgun turned it into my favorite arc in the series (NT not accounted for, haven't caught up yet)

>>134162643
Agreed, it's really hard to care about most characters in the series these days now that full 99% of them have been made essentially as irrelevant as Saten in the grand scheme of things.

>>134148764
I still don't get why the witch fairy is in the scooter.

>>134164328
Have you read the volume? She rides on Segway at one point.

>>134162787
>>134164259
Serial escalation should be illegal

Question have we seen Acqua after WWIII?

>>134164808
NT10.

>>134135909
i always hated touma, but damn accel deserved that punch in the face for what he did to that clone and the other clones. It fealt great having that nigga gets his face bashed in

>>134165447
It's less satisfying when you realize Accelerator was basically a victim too. Sure, Touma wasn't wrong for saving the Sisters, even Accelerator would agree with that. But it's less "haha, the shit got what he deserved!" when you factor in the rest of the story

What would Kakine Original be like if he got a Life Correcting Punch? And would the end result be better than Beetle 05?

>>134139788
Unfortunately the narrative won't allow for her to ever be useful as a level 5. Are we supposed to start hating the character because the author is being difficult? I'll take what Misaka I can get. She's the only reason this franchise has existed up until this point, and for good reason. Even her forced cameos and irrelevance are more entertaining than what passes for the plot these days. Raildex is Bleach-levels of retardation at this point. Kamachi marginalized and made obsolete every factor that made Raildex great in the first place. He had an all star cast by volume 6. I get so depressed thinking about what could have been.

>>134167137
>Thinks Misaka has carried the series
>Not Touma, Accelerator, and Hamazura

Yeah, no. Stick to the Railgun manga if you want to see more of your precious Misaka so much. Misaka trying to get shoehorned in the Index novels is just one of the worst things. Literally exists for the purpose of stalking Touma's dick and does not even contribute much.

>>134162643

That's why everything up to the end of WW3 needs to be animated. There is enough content there for two seasons and it's at the peak of the series where shit gets good.

What they decide to do with NT doesn't really matter as long as they get this part right. I personally don't think it'll get a TV spot since there is so much build-up to NT 9 it's absurd.

>>134166183

Impossible for that kakine to top beetle. He might correct their lives but not their nature.

>>134167137
Listen, I love Misaka (she's my second favorite character) but you're just fan wanking if you really think she's the only think that's carried this series. Want to know why it's retarded to say she's carried this series? Because of the exact problem being complained about. She does nothing except pander to people with shit taste who think her being retarded around Touma is cute, endearing or enjoyable instead of doing more worthwhile things. It is sad to think she could be far more awesome than she is.

>>134168868
I would prefer it if the crush on Touma didn't exist and her reason to continue appearing were tied to her being a high ranked esper with a small army of military clones, not "I want to be retarded over my first crush that simple common sense should tell me won't work out"

The magic gods were a mistake. What was kamachi thinking? How can he come back from this mess?

In the past few volumes we went from magic gods being that dark looming threat after a single one required 8 volumes of build up and 2 climax to having some smug cunt show up and kill dozens of them.

I'm honestly afraid of seeing what kamachi will do with invisible thing and aleister. Hell, even Aihana etsu isn't safe from this madness.

>>134169035
I honestly think Kamachi has been keeping this series going too long and adds too much new stuff each volume. Wasn't Othinus first mentioned way back in OT? And magic gods themselves wee mentioned in the first volume. I'm wondering if IT and Aleister aren't Kamachi trolling us

>>134169035
>having some smug cunt show up and kill dozens of them.
>smug cunt
>hating Harem Rejector
but anon, he's literally just a normal high school boy you can find anywhere.

>>134169035
I actually like that Kamisato is genociding the Magic Gods. Doing that should set back the power level scale a bit because it was kind of retarded that they held 99% of the world's magic even though we've had all of these other strong magicians in the series.

can someone kindly tell me where do i start if i want to watch this series. index? or railgun?

>>134169415
If you like Magic with shounen battle harem Protagonist going through shit and more cast, Index. If you like Science and cute girls doing cute things with a bit of yuri and Tsundere Protagonist, Railgun. Of course there's the option of watching both and/or reading the Novels/Manga instead.

>>134169539
thank you kind /a/non.

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>>134169539

cute girls doing cute things indeed

>>134169603
Shhh don't spoil the newfag

>>134169035

The difference between OT and NT is staggering.

OT post-anime only had 14 and 16 being average, the rest were good to great. NT on the other hand only has 9 and 10 going for it, even 4 and 7 if you're generous.

>>134169603
They spilled ketchup, is that clumsy moe?

>>134169926
Kamachi go new editors(yeah more) for NT.

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>This thread.
You should all kill yourself

>>134169926
>the rest were good to great
Sure they were anon, book of law and ice boats were great arcs. I'd argue the opposite, there's quite a few meh or bad volumes in OT, but in NT only NT2, 3 and 11 have been all that bad, everything else has been pretty good.

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This series would've been god tier if they focused entirely on science + academy city's dark side.

Mikoto becoming a part of the underworld would have been neat to see. We never really see how #1, #2, and #4 got to where they were.

>>134170667

By rest I mean everything in between 14-22 that I didn't state.

I've watched the anime and started reading the LN i'm on vol 15 of the 1st version not NT.

Never read the manga should I bother if I am reading the LN or worth it?

>>134170789
Ah I see so we're just cherry picking, carry on

>>134170821

The manga is completely different, since it's mikoto's side of things.

It's definitely worth reading alongside the light novel.

>>134170872

The fact that those volumes were shit is a given, we've seen it in the anime and there isn't much more to be said.

The reason why I'm only focusing on 14-22 is because that's where the anime stopped and the LN reached a consistent level of quality.

>>134171014
I'm simply pointing out that ratio-wise there's about the same amount of meh/bad volumes in both, acting like early volumes don't count for whatever reason is your call to make.

>>134170892
Sounds good actually. I was wondering what Mikoto was doing while Touma went to France.

>>134171370
Literally nothing yet from the looks of the current Railgun chapters. The focus of the recent chapters happen to be ITEM, SCHOOL, and Saten.

>>134171370

It's not exactly like he explained. It shows her perspective of the sisters' arc as well as the daihaseisai (although it's something that happened the day after but was significantly better).

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the current railgun arc takes place 3 days before volume 15 and features ITEM. They need to translate that already.

Why is Railgun so much better than Index?

I mean the girl, not the show.

Actually, I mean both.

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>>134171936

science > magic, that's all there is to it

>>134171936
Because Railgun had more care and budget put into it and it was written way after the first volumes of Index so it benefited from having a more experienced writter and an already built world.

>>134171936
>railgun better than index

What?

>>134172289
He said the show, which isn't as bad of a claim, he's still wrong but half of Railgun S was very good and a good portion of Index was very rushed so it's plausible.

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>the number of characters is increasing by quite a bit once again. Sorry that keeps happening. Thank you very much for sticking with me.
Am i the only one who thinks kamachi knows exactly what he is doing wrong but doing it anyway?
Pretty gutsy.

>>134173212
>wrong
>Implying most of my favorite characters aren't the side characters
High Priest and Arlands Darkstreet best boys

Beetle is so shit and useless.

Need him to fuck off and have the real one back.

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>>134135909
And that is why it's good. I didn't like season 1 outside of a few episodes but episodes 5 to about 17 of season 2 were damn good.

>>134173212
He should stop making female characters.

>>134173388

my favorites are the new ITEM

I forgive mugino for the numerous things she did

>>134173487
Now post Nagai version.

>>134173519
No.
Gunha needs a cool girl who keeps him in check.

>>134173565
>I forgive mugino for the numerous things she did
I don´t.Cause they are unrelated to me.

>>134173610

I'm sure there's already a girl in the index universe that can be gunha's silvia, can't be bothered to think of any now

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>>134173608
Sorry senpai, that is all I have.

>>134173705
Girl in Dress.

>>134173705
The only free ones are Maria and Fukyjose.

>>134173565
>I forgive mugino for the numerous things she did
I will never forgive her for killing guy with googles.

>>134173805

I wish I could claim Maria.

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>>134173805
Marian and Oumi Shuri too, Oumi especially, having a loli ninja stalk Gunha and try to figure out how to use his power for her clan could be great

>>134173979

that guy is the king of literal whos, with the girl in the dress being the queen

even the losers from MEMBER are more relevant

>>134174039
>Marian and Oumi Shuri too
Don´t forget enshuu.Her trying to use gunhas think patten could invent some fun trouble.

>>134174173
That's true but I was trying to think of girls who might be able to reel Gunha in from time to time, rather than one that would amplify his craziness

How many Science-Side arcs has Touma been relevant in?

There's the Sisters arc, Skill-Out Uprising, and Daihaseisai Level 6 arc.

What others are there?

>>134174219
Depends what you define as relevant, he's not relevant in most of the Dark Side arcs since those are Hamazura's and Accelerator's novels, but he was "relevant" in Baggage City, Agitate Halation and every arc that mixed magic and science like the Dianoid, Vento attacking AC, Fraulien, etc.

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>>134174212
There was one gutless perfect person who could have done that.

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>>134174355
>400x599
Where the hell'd you get that from? Even BT has better images.
Regardless, Neph is the embodiment of going with the flow, she wouldn't oppose Gunha and reel in his craziness, she'd cry shout and laugh right along with him.

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>>134137868
>It's not Touma who needs to correct Kamisato, it's Gunha.
Agree.Gunha vs Kamisato when?

>>134174212

made me think of a crack pairing

super guts

>>134174424
So Othinius?

Reminder that Tsuchimikado got rekt by a blonde bitch

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>>134174441
Now that you've mentioned it Saiai and Gunha would either get along amazingly or oppose each other at every turn, and it would be super.

>>134174515
I wouldn't call forcing a guy to go through your experiences and hells so he understands you "going with the flow". Neph just flicks on the television and she's already crying and empathizing with the characters on screen.

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>>134173565
I forgive Mugino because she's sexy. Even as a cyborg

>watch Railgun for Touma
>watch Index for Mikoto

Fuck

>>134174634
No i meant it as a alternative.
Till now every Magic god was incredible fickle even ollerus.
who ironically was the posterboy of a Magic god.
So who knows

>>134174879
Othinus isn't exactly going to reel in Gunha when she's already got her hands full with Touma though.

>>134174926
Yea.

>Say there is a power that could defeat the demon king who ruled over evil.
Demon king=Magic god
>The hero who possessed that power would likely be happy.
>But not because he (or she) had been born with a special power.
>It would be because he knows what his power is for and the world around him is widely aware of that fact.
>Therefore, he would always know what path to take. No matter how powerful the demon
>king may be, he would never have to fear him. And even if he did take the wrong path
>and tried to live a different life, the majority of the people would act as guide rails and
>prevent him from living any other life. That may be restrictive, but it could also be seen
>as promising him a stable path to success.
Kamisato?
>They have no objective.
>They simply have the power.
>What happens when an existence like that is let out into the world?
>What happens when they have no guidance or direction and so they chaotically wield a power great enough to instantly kill the demon king?
WR?

>>134175184
Probably building on High Priest talk to Touma about how the Magic Gods have helped him get to where he is now, Kamisato is something like Touma would be if no one like the MG or Aleister were guiding him along rails perhaps

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Man, without images in-between the difference strikes like a track.

>>134175511
Wasn't Touma Shirou of NT14?

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>>134175547
Part of the reason I have a tough time trying to reread the novels, the difference is striking

>>134175304
>Probably building on High Priest talk to Touma about how the Magic Gods have helped him get to where he is now,
Sure
>“Although, if we’re talking about destiny, then you would be the sole exception. Thanks to your Imagine Breaker, even the vague power >of us Magic Gods is uniformly leveled out. That keeps any large waves away from you alone and keeps you in constant misfortune.”
Touma having a harem has nothing to do with the magic gods which is one difference to kamisato.

>>134141233
>he learned that High Priest sacrificed himself for Othinus
Thing is, that was the narrator telling the reader.
Touma doesn't know that, and he likely never will.

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>>134175668
Kamisato harem's is genuine too.

Reminder that WORST and LO's feelings for Accel are fake.

>>134175758
Doesn´t matter.
How can a normal highscholl boy even find out the magic gods were responsible for that?
It could be anyone.

>>134175668
I wasn't talking about his harem per se, and I meant the section at the start of NT13

“You have ended up at the center, but that is not necessarily because of your own actions
or because of overlapping coincidences. What if someone set it up that way and lifted you
to that spot? For example, some people who can destroy something as incomprehensibly
large as the world with a single fingertip.”
“I refer to us, the true Gremlin.”

“You might think the true Gremlin focused on you because you saved a girl, protected
Academy City, ended World War III, reached an understanding of Othinus, and brought
calm back to a world boiling over with revenge. …But isn’t that backwards?”

“From the very beginning, you were the scorer meant to view the world. You were the
being hypothesized by us Magic Gods who are the gears of the world. That is why you
worked toward a resolution without being thrown off track during those aforementioned
incidents. Imagine Breaker is merely an addition to your true nature." "The name Kamijou Touma, or the One who Purifies
Gods and Slays Demons, was not given to the power of your right hand. It was given to
you, wasn’t it? Thus, the center of the issue is not the records of your past or the power in
your right hand. It is you yourself.”

>>134175547
Touman needs to put a little meat on those bones.

>>134175866
There are no fake feelings.

>>134175912
Yea but my quote says he stood there were he stood not because of Mg or silver star but because he is who he is.
Same shit is probably with Kamisato

>>134175511
Aren´t the girls the same person?

>>134176142
I don't see how they can't be both true, MGs could affect him from before he got IB, I doubt it's impossible to as a person is being born say "I want that kid to have x y and z parameters, that will make him a good scorer for us" and that they couldn't affect him after but affected the world around him to shape him as he is, nature/nurture and all that.

>>134176281
Possible they are basically Destiny.
But Touma was born as the scorer

>>134176281
In that case they did a bad job in shaping him as Touma refused a deal.

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Find a flaw.

>The Observer simply remains by your side at all times and watches everything you do. They know the answers to the questions before they are given, they compile it all, and they construct a massive collection of information.”
Is it the narrator?

>>134176687
It's Blick Winkel

>>134176679
Too old

>>134176622
On the contrary he made an excellent scorer, he wouldn't even be swayed by bribes, they just didn't account how to get him to listen to them into it.

>>134176784
>20 something
>too old

what

>>134176687
It's Aihana

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>>134176805
Where do you think we are champ

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>>134176679
By this time Kuroko should be with her husband taking care of their children

>>134176622
He will change his mind.
>“Yes. It is merely a matter of sooner or later.
Magic gods are incomprehensibly.I don´t think any of them are truly dead.
They get always what they want for better or worse.

>>134177031
If any of them are dead it's High Priest, the rest are just banished to the edge of the timeline, either they'll get bored or Touma will get sent there and they'll come back.

>>134176751
That could even work if you take NT7 into account.

>>134177099
I thought she didn't succeed in "becoming the wind" or whatever she called it though. I thought Fremea did something to make it fail.

>>134177085
>If any of them are dead it's High Priest
Even that´s not a given considiring he has free control of ‘the intersection of the Six Paths.
He could reborn as a human.

>>134176679
>Misaka with long hair

Yuck

>>134177226
High Priest loli when.

>>134177226
That would still be him dying as a Magic God though, and I imagine if Aleister's the one who did it and he was giving him a message about his daughter he's dead.
>>134177297
>Wanting a wrinkly baby's first words to be Uho hoi

Thinking back on the Index Movie, was Ladylee one of the founders of Academy City alongside Crowley and Heaven Canceler? She already had influence on the world since the 1800s.

>>134177369
>dying as a Magic God
That would be enough for aleister wouldn´t it?
Doesn´t seem like the Mg realy meant harm to Aleister.
They treated him like a child who just doesn´t know it better.

>>134177525
How the magic gods treated Aleister doesn't mean Aleister isn't mad at them for causing his daughter's death. Point is if anyone can permanently kill a magic god it's silver star.

>>134177598
>Aleister isn't mad at them for causing his daughter's death
Which one?

>>134172964
No, he said girl, yet you talk about the show.
See >>134171936

>>134177976
Read again.

>>134177976
>See >>134171936
Did you miss the last line? Besides Index being worse than any girl isn't exactly a wild claim.

>>134177408
If she was important, why wasn't she mentioned at the end during Laura's discussion with Aleister?

On that note, why do Laura and Aleister talk all the time despite the fact that they're enemies? Is it like some kind of chess game for them and they actually appreciate each other despite being on opposite sides?

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i miss old raildex threads.

>>134176687
Sounds like Index for some.obscure reason.

>>134178122
> Is it like some kind of chess game for them and they actually appreciate each other despite being on opposite sides?
Yes.But for now laura is doing a shit job.Poor aleister

>>134178122
Aleister certainly does at least, he wants someone to fuck up his plan after all, so he's likely goading her into stopping him as often as he can.

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>>134178216
So he's actually holding back in a way?

Would he even bother to deal with her himself if she decided to come to AC? She seems way weaker than him.

>>134178051
>Index
>worse
>again this meme
That's not Frenda, Mugino or Saronia

>>134178313
I just said it's not a wild claim, she's not the very worst I'll agree with you, but she's bottom 5 so it's not a shocking thing to hear especially when compared to a mid tier girl.

>>134178361
>>134178313
Or Mikoto who I put below mid tier.

>>134178182

The misaka wanker in that image makes me cringe every time